Apple Hate

>>57137583

>every keynote

Name one moment each from the last three keynotes.

Did you even watch them? I doubt it. You posted a clip of a guy who's literally been dead since 2011.

>>57137583
reminds of me Sony with their Emotion Engine on PS2. With it's real time Toy Store level graphics.

>>57137645
Toy Story even*

>>57137616
>since 2011
Holy fuck it was that long ago?

steve was a genius

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>>57137583
>$59 each for the new rubber dome keyboard and basic optical mouse
>crowd cheers

i dont hate apple, but i'm sick of their poor design choices and product variations since Jobs left. The MacBook Air with the core i cpus, and the iphone 4s, were fantastic when they came out. Nothing like it.

>>57137616
The same thing happened after Elon Musk's presentation to the IAC. People started coming out of the woodwork, claiming to know what they were talking about while asking questions about things that had been clearly explained in the presentation. They didn't even bother to watch it before they started calling him a crackpot.

The ADHD-addled children here don't watch long-form presentations.

>>57137725

Steve was nothing more than a gloridifed QVC salesman.

>BUT WWAIT!!! THERE'S MORE1!!!!!!1

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>>57137616
>>57137751

got your apple-branded diaper on babies?

>>57137773

I'm just saying, you don't post a keynote from before Macs even switched to x86, and then talk about how this happens "every keynote". Gonna need some citations to back up this rhetoric.

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>>57137860

I am not your dog so I will not obey any silly orders you may bark. I also need not supply you with a "citation" for my own opinion. I laugh at how much you invest of yourself into a tech company. lols

>>57137860
You can't reason with fanboys who blindly hate the competition, just give it up and the thread will be archived soon

>>57137583
if even this basic level of marketing bullshit triggers your fee-fees so hard then why the fuck are you into technology?

>>57137887
so basically you're just a whiny crybaby?

>>57137891
this
it's just another contrarian cuck trying to look hip on the internet because he knows fuck all about technology beyond spouting memes to attempt to fit in, sage and move on

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>>57137891
>fanboys who blindly hate the competition

I have no allegiance.

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>>57137901
>so basically you're just a whiny crybaby?

You seem to be the one crying in abject despair in my thread. MY THREAD.

Enjoy your stay, crybaby.

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>>57137901

so much salt

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>>57137913
>>57137933
>>57137887

>>57137962

>fuck off retard
>actually entered the thread to show how not baited he is

yeah, you don't get irony, eh?

>>57137976

I get irony when I take my vitamins.

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Just imagine the glorious utopia we would all be living in now if Apple had never existed. Bliss...

>>57137913
>no u
this isn't reddit sorry
>>57137933
>haha u got BAITED
this isn't reddit sorry

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First the puck, then this monstrosity. The only thing Apple actually invented was carpal tunnel syndrome.

>>57137583
There's no real Apple hate. It's just Apple shills false flagging as haters to make them look retarded.

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>>57138031
>everything i don't like is reddit

>>>/lgbt/

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What is it that Apple fags like about Apple? Don't you have any integrity?

do i watch marketing bullshit? no
do i get buttmad about inconsequential things? no
am i poor? no
do i trust android? no
would i run windows? no
do i hate apple? no

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>>57138107
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>>57138115
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>>57138094

hello? its 2016 here, is anyone there??

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>>57138150
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>>57138094
>>57138107
>>57138115
>>57138134
When will Hiro instate a "garbage outside of facebook" rule?
Applel counter-shilling is literally the ragecomic of technology.

>>57138107

Hey, that's many years old. All macOS upgrades have been free since Mavericks.

>>57138115

Yeah, technology does that. It advances.

>>57138134

Again, OS upgrades have been free since 2013. Windows still costs money, and they still reward your expenditure by treating you like a criminal. Did you know that the bootloader on a Mac will download macOS for you if you ask? If you ruin your install, you can go into the bootloader and redownload the entire OS directly from Apple. For free. No keys, no license checks, no hardware checks, nothing.

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>>57138198
>>57138201

>>57138218

Dank meme, bruh. But did you know that, just this year, Apple opened Siri and iMessage to third-party devs? Google has yet to open Google Now to third-party devs in the same way.

Or that last year, they allowed for (admittedly long overdue) custom keyboards and web content blockers on the App Store? You have to root on Android for the latter.

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>>57138266

>>57138201
>Windows still costs money
You can download Windows for free, and you can upgrade from a previous version for free, same as macOS. It only costs money as a new installation on a new PC, which I can't do at all with macOS, so there's no point in comparing.

>>57138317
>You can download Windows for free

Yeah, but you can't activate it, without which you lose your desktop wallpaper, can't get updates, and receive constant nagging popups.

Of course, you knew this, and just wanted to be a little faggot.

>>57138303

Steve Jobs was a terrible person. He lied to Wozniak, he was a dick to his coworkers, he trusted holistic medicine over actual medicine until he was too sick to ever get better, he bought houses in 12 states to get on all of their organ donor registries, effectively using his wealth to buy an organ, and then he accepted an organ while terminally ill, a choice that almost certainly cost another person their life in exchange for six more months of his own. I'm glad he's dead.

But that's just it: he's dead. He's been dead for five years. It's time to let go.

>>57138317

The Windows 10 upgrade offer ended. It costs money now.

>>57138333
So what? You can only activate OS X on computers made by Apple. You can activate Windows on the Surface as well.

Please show me a situation where OSX is somehow more free-as-in-free-beer than Windows.

>>57138341
>The Windows 10 upgrade offer ended. It costs money now.
Not entirely true.
This loophole still works:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/accessibility/windows10upgrade

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>>57138341
>he bought houses in 12 states to get on all of their organ donor registries, effectively using his wealth to buy an organ, and then he accepted an organ while terminally ill, a choice that almost certainly cost another person their life in exchange for six more months of his own

I did not know this. Is this legit?

>>57137583
people think buy macbook = instant amazing musician and student, shit is weird

>>57138356

You don't have to "activate" macOS at all. As long as your hardware is similar enough to Apple hardware that macOS contains drivers for it, and you patch your firmware to something it recognizes -- a practice that's really very simple, if you build with the foreknowledge that you're doing a Hackintosh -- you can install macOS without any further hassle. You even get updates.

Speaking of updates, macOS has never been, and never will be, so pushy about OS updates that it won't allow you to finish what you're doing. Windows, on the other hand...

>>57138360

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/26/memphis-doctor-who-performed-steve-jobs-liver-transplant-bought-his-house.html

Yeah, the whole affair was shady as fuck. It's arguably unethical to give Jobs a liver at all, and most certainly not in keeping with standard operating procedure.

Note that I both own a lot of Apple shit and refused to buy iOS rather than Android until iOS supported custom keyboards. I'm not blind. It's just that the products changed and the rhetoric didn't.

>>57138396
Reputation from the 80s that somehow survived til now. It's so much more of a hassle to do artwork and design on a Mac compared to a Windows machine, the Adobe suite runs so much slower on OSX.

>>57137583
There is literally nothing wrong with Apple and the fact that you're desperate enough to make an Apple hate thread is proof of this.

Thank you for marketing the greatest tech company on 4chan for free

>>57138441
A hackintosh isn't an official installation. If you're going by that route, then Windows is also free if you count Daz Loader or PicoKMS. Also I did make a hackintosh.

I asked for a situation where running an official installation of OS X would be free and the equivalent in Windows wouldn't be.

>>57138465
Well said, iPoojeet!

>>57138360

Actually, it was only two states. But still.

http://globalbioethics.org/2013/12/11/did-steve-jobs-cut-the-line-in-order-to-obtain-a-liver-transplant/

>Through a little-known legal practice called multiple listing, Jobs doubled his odds by getting on waiting lists in California and Tennessee.

>>57138478

You still don't have to worry about any kind of validation or phone-home process, nor do you have to worry about rearming KMS, or losing your wallpaper, or whether or not the cryptically named update you're about to take is the one that nerfs your activation hack.

>>57138480
>iPoojeet
Wrong company you dip

>>57138441
>>57138487
>Actually, it was only two states. But still.

Hmm. Unsure how to feel about this. I always knew Jobs was a dick but in this instance his life was on the line; would any of us try something like that when you're faced with oblivion? Not defending him at all, that is underhanded as fuck.

>>57138504
>ok I'm wrong, but there's all this other stuff!
Thank you, goodnight.

>>57138518

Hackintosh preparations are not the same as Daz Loader. Hackintosh prep just tweaks the way your hardware works so that it's in keeping with what macOS expects, allowing it to function as intended. Daz is a tool that prevents the OS from phoning home on a regular basis to see if you're activated as it normally would.

You're comparing apples to... uhh... non-apples.

>>57138456

source?

>>57138516

Remember: Jobs only got as sick as he did because he went to Eastern faith healers instead of going to the fucking hospital. If he had gotten on the waitlist right away, it would have been ethical to give him the liver because he wouldn't have been terminal.

>>57138550
My hackintosh was much harder to do and much more hardware-picky than my Arch install, and incomparably harder than Windows, but that's not my point.

You said Windows costs money. Neither a KMSPico windows nor a hackintosh cost money, so none of that matters. Can you show me a situation where Windows would cost money and the Apple equivalent would be free, or will you just admit you were wrong?

>>57138573
why didn't he just buy a liver if all he needed was a transplant?

>>57138550
You really have no idea what you're talking about.

>>57138591

Yeah I'm sure they sell livers in China all the time

>>57138573
He still got a transplant, even though his prognosis was terminal

>>57138588

Windows does cost money. The only way to get a license for free is to lie to Microsoft. And, hey, if you paid for Windows 7 and you're on Windows 7, and you want Windows 10, guess what: you have to pay to upgrade to Windows 10!

Do you know what happens if I'm on Snow Leopard, Mavericks, Yosemite, El Capitan, or Sierra? The upgrade shows up, and I install it. For free. There you have it: an instance in which macOS is free and Windows is not.

>>57138606

Having to modify your hardware because the OS vendor isn't going to help you run the OS on hardware that isn't theirs is not the same thing as an OS that continuously checks in numerous different privacy-invading ways to make sure you really, definitely didn't steal it.

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>>57138658
>He still got a transplant, even though his prognosis was terminal

What a fucker.

>>57137583
embarrassing.

however, all that retarded bullshit is what makes them rich. you can't really blame them for that.

>>57138696
It's fine, I think it would be kind of fucked up if there were no level of achievement possible at which your survival is no longer subject to the collective will of a bureaucracy.

>>57138667
>Do you know what happens if I'm on Snow Leopard, Mavericks, Yosemite, El Capitan, or Sierra? The upgrade shows up, and I install it. For free. There you have it: an instance in which macOS is free and Windows is not.
That is literally how I installed Windows on 2 computers I own.

You simply have no clue what you're talking about. Windows comes free pre-installed and uprades are free, just like on OS X.

>>57138724

When did you do that? During the Windows 10 free upgrade campaign that's now over? Or did you commit fraud and tell Microsoft that you were handicapped?

Looks like jobs did have HIV >>57138663

>>57138772
No, he probably didn't, see the wikileaks page that posted them:
>As Apple, Inc's stock price depends in part on the health of Mr. Jobs, stock speculators are motivated to introduce information critical of Mr. Jobs health.
>Due to the contradictory dates, possible evidence of forgery, strong motivations for fabrication, and few motivations for a legitimate revelation, the images should not be taken at face value.

>>57138766
During the campaign that you can still take advantage of if you have a valid license.
>but you have to lie!
And this costs me money how?

>>57138723

It's not just a bureaucracy thing, it's a "there are fewer organs than people who need them, so we should probably figure out who can benefit the most from them" thing.

SPOILER: Steve Jobs was not one of those people.

>>57138806

It's okay. It wasn't a lie. You are legitimately mentally handicapped.

>>57138800
I love it when idiots spreading misinformation get rekt.

>>57138800

>muh conspiracy

>>If Steve Jobs did have HIV, it is possible that his pancreatic cancer was a Kaposi's sarcoma, which are noted to emulate pancreatic cancer in HIV-positive patients[4].
>Steve Jobs also follows a diet occasionally recommended to AIDS patients as an alternative therapy[5].

Hmm, seems to fit what was known publicly. Perhaps there was a PR guy that rubbished the real reason he died.

>>57138817
Not an argument. You were unable to present proof for your claim.

>>57138828
You've just said
>muh conspiracy
in an attempt to discredit an attempt to discredit a conspiracy theory

>>57138844
>Not an argument. You were unable to present proof for your claim.

Jobs died through complications of HIV. Documents from that thread are proof. Prove the documents wrong fag. The date discrepancy is debunked also.

>in an attempt to discredit an attempt to discredit a conspiracy theory

So you claim Jobs did not die through complications of HIV even although he did?

>>57138880
>So you claim Jobs did not die through complications of HIV even although he did?

But that's the thing you're trying to convince us of, buddy, remember?

Check the signatures

https://i.4cdn.org/g/1476847941692.jpg
https://i.4cdn.org/g/1476848327616s.jpg

>>57138900
>But that's the thing you're trying to convince us of, buddy, remember?

I am not trying to convince you of anything. I don't if you believe it or not.

>>57138901
you would expect someone with a financial interest in forging the documents to go through the trouble of Googling Steve Jobs's signature.
Furthermore, nobody famous uses the same signature for signing autographs and signing medical/financial documents.

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>be on low speed internet connection
>apple devices hogs all available capacity to download updates and upload photos/movies/documents WITHOUT ASKING THE USER

>>57138915
>you would expect someone with a financial interest in forging the documents to go through the trouble of Googling Steve Jobs's signature.

Sure you wouldn't. Stop being so gullible and believing Apple propaganda.

>Furthermore, nobody famous uses the same signature for signing autographs and signing medical/financial documents.

I hope you have citations for this claim.

>>57138807
Who do you think makes that decision? Impartial and omniscient moral arbiters?
My point is that there should be a possible level of achievement at which one no longer has to sit in front of a biological-wealth redistribution council to be given permission to use the money he earned to save his own life.

>>57138948
>My point is that there should be a possible level of achievement at which one no longer has to sit in front of a biological-wealth redistribution council to be given permission to use the money he earned to save his own life.

Who deserves it more: the billionaire with terminal cancer, or a child who may live to cure that cancer?

>>57138956
Undoubtedly, a child deserves it more; but we don't just go around giving resources to the people who deserve them most. That wouldn't make for a world I'd want to live in.

These are complicated issues, but it seems no more likely that a child saved by a liver transplant would be responsible for a cure for cancer than that a hospital, given hundreds of thousands of dollars for the liver transplant by a billionaire, would invest it into research, and consequently cure cancer. You can't use these kinds of what-ifs in moral arguments like these unless we have reason to believe that they're serious possibilities.

>>57138929
from the first paragraph on the wikipedia page for "signature":
>A signature may be confused with an autograph, which is chiefly an artistic signature.
>This can lead to confusion when people have both an autograph and signature and as such some people in the public eye keep their signatures private whilst fully publishing their autograph.

>>57139000
>That wouldn't make for a world I'd want to live in.

Well then you'd be an elitist piece of shit.

>These are complicated issues

No, it is not complicated at all. You're worse than Jobs because you actually come across as believing what you spew. At least Jobs' excuse was he was dying and looked for any method to stay alive.

Just fuck off.

>>57139017

Didn't your professors never tell you to use Wikipedia as a primary reference?

>>57138800
that's actually a plausible explanation of why that information was hidden for the public since 2010. nowadays, it wouldn't affect apple stock value anymore

>>57139030
So you'd like all of the things you want to be given to people more deserving? Or, wait, do you think there aren't people more deserving?

You should take some deep breaths and have a snack.

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>>57137583
Marketing: The Computer Company

I personally loathe all forms of marketing and find it completely pointless. Since Apple is essentially the figurehead of pompous, over-the-top marketing, I really... hate them.

Just show what you have and we'll choose whether to buy it. I hate fucking fluff.

>>57139000
Its not morally complicated at all. He was already terminal when he got his liver. They gave a liver to somebody who was going to die anyways instead of giving it to somebody who could actually live. Somebody out there who could have lived a long healthy life died so he could live for another 6 months.

>>57139068

tl;dr

You mean nothing to me; you are less than trash. You're not deserving of any more replies. Take your (You) and shove it up your ass.

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>>57137583
Hating on Apple is like hating on BMW or Lexus. Are there cheaper and more economical ways to get around? Yes, but people buy them because they have the money. You must hate everyone who can afford things you can't.

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>>57139076

>>57139081
This.

Apple haters are just poorfag college dropouts

>>57139081
>BMW or Lexus

Nah. BMW and Lexus actually have value and are useful for longer than 5 years. Apple is marketed to the moronically vain that like their fashion accessories like purses and shoes etc.

>>57139076
Oh Noes, let's not try to make our product look as appealing as possible. That would be unfair to our competitors!

>>57139113
>BMW and Lexus actually have value and are useful for longer than 5 years

They don't last any longer than other cars out there. Their value come in the form of comfort and amenities that other cars don't offer. You don't really need those things to get from point A to point B. You can get around in any econobox. I don't see how that is any different from Apple and its competitors.

>>57139081
People hate on them because the people who drive them are completely insurable douches who only bought them so they could brag about it to everyone. You'll notice Porsche and Mercedes don't get anywhere near the level of crap BMW and Lexus do while still being luxury cars and its because the people that buy them aren't insufferable pricks.

>>57139163
>who only bought them so they could brag about it to everyone
Nice delusions, m8. Having an Apple products is nothing to brag about since everyone can afford it if they want to and a lot of people already have it anyways.
I use it because it actually looks good and the OS isn't shitty like Android.

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>>57139151
>Their value come in the form of comfort and amenities that other cars don't offer.

Using that analogy then you should be comparing Android to BMW or Lexus as generally Android has many more features compared to iOS. If you mean to say prestige, then that should go to Vertu http://www.vertu.com/

i remember the G4 keeping up with the P3 at the time.

i kinda miss PowerPC and the look of older macs but hardware wise they've been complete garbage since 2007 when they started putting mobile/laptop hardware in desktop pc's.

All in One is the biggest fucking meme

>>57139191
You're completely missing the point. People value things in Apple the same way they value things in brands like BMW and Lexus. They are willing to pay extra for it. Who are you to say what they spend their money on is wrong? Do people shit on what you value?

>>57139078
lol
>>57139077
>Somebody out there who could have lived a long healthy life died so he could live for another 6 months.
We don't have enough information to say that; it could have been given to another edge case, or Steve Jobs could've survived. There are lots of plausible hypotheticals we could throw around.
Alos, his diagnosis wasn't clearly given as terminal; he had a relatively safe form of liver cancer, and I kind of doubt any doctor would have given him a liver if they knew he would die in six months (it was actually two years).
In any case, I think you're right. For a whole host of reasons, Steve Jobs didn't deserve the organ: first of all, he was an extremely ungenerous billionaire, rivaling Trump, and second, his medical choices made the necessary:
https://www.quora.com/Steve-Jobs/Why-did-Steve-Jobs-choose-not-to-effectively-treat-his-cancer

>>57139221
*made the procedure necessary

>>57139218
>You're completely missing the point

Nope.

>People value things in Apple the same way they value things in brands like BMW and Lexus.

No shit.

>They are willing to pay extra for it

Just like people are willing to pay the same amount for the new Google Pixel.

>Who are you to say what they spend their money on is wrong?

I never said nor implied this.

>Do people shit on what you value?

No. If they did, I would not give a single fuck.

>>57137583
At least it's not a federal crime to take an iPhone on a plane.

>>57139248

Good job I take my Samsung™ Galaxy™ 7™

>>57137887
I hope you're not implicitly shitting on how big of a deal a composited graphics server was, something that took Windows and GNU+Linux 6 years to clone, the latter of which still hasn't gotten it figured out.

>>57139247
>I never said nor implied this.

Well that is exactly what the op is doing. He is saying that the things Apple owners value are wrong and they should only value what he feels is important to him.

>>57138082
The rig on the bottom middle pc side in the Corsair 800D is so sexy.

>>57139076
marketing is a necessary evil from capitalism.

but that doesn't make it less of an evil: it only leads to nonoptimal, wasteful solutions, and is one of the purest expressions of hypocrisy and douchebaggery.

> 500Mhz G4 beats the fuck out of a 1Ghz PIII
Winfags on suicide watch

>>57137751
I can read faster than musk can talk.

Transcripts or bust.

>>57139749
Those G4s were great but they use some serious power, and the highest end 1.42GHz ones kick out a shit ton of heat.

>>57139000
it's not complicated

jobs hated medicine. jobs hated everything. jobs did not want to pay the hospitals any more than the cost of the procedure. jobs was not grateful. jobs was not selfless. jobs did not hold up a fair deal. it was a lopsided transaction made by bending the rules around morons who religiously follow them.

jobs was a shithead
the system failed, as all systems do without the freedom for people to break from its confines and say "yes" or "no" despite what the rules state

>>57137887

That was demoed as part of the Quartz graphical system and the Aqua user interface at Macworld in 2000, and 16 years later the little shortcut they coded in so Jobs could demo the Genie animation in slow motion is still in MacOS Sierra.

Just hold Shift.

>>57138015

And, in the year of our Lord 2016, we still get threads here every day with people whining "Why are all sub-$500 laptops so shit?"

iPads today give better performance than most laptops, at sub-laptop price.

>>57139248
>iphones dont explode
>being this delusional

>>57137887
>Speaks like his word is fact
>Wont provide citation
Feels Facebook

>>57137616
>Name one moment each from the last three keynotes.
>Did you even watch them? I doubt it. You posted a clip of a guy who's literally been dead since 2011.

Aren't they all the same?

>>57140191
#BTFO

>>57137583
The fact that they keep saying "just works" when it clearly doesn't. Macs are the most hated tech at my workplace

>>57140557

Bullshit.

Macs are the best possible computer you could buy with someone elses money.

>>57140557
>Power supply fails in mac pro tower, you're fucked
>Power supply fails in your cheap ass atx case, you can buy a new EVGA 500w PSU for $36 on amazon atm.

>>57140577
>cheaping out on power supplies
No wonder you think this is a realistic scenario. You probably treat your stuff like shit too.

>>57139191
Nobody buys a BMW or Lexus for the shitty gimmicks they'll never use that are all found in lower end brands for the most part anyway.

>>57139076
>"I hate marketing"
>posts on a consumer technology board
smug_eddy.png

>>57140577
>>Power supply fails in mac pro tower,
Unlikely.
>>Power supply fails in your cheap ass atx case,
Almost inevitable within the first year.
You've just bought a hobby (rebuilding hardware and software) and also have assumed financial responsibility for your IT supplier's new BMW.

>>57140970
EVGA 500B is an excellent PSU you retarded fuck, even the lower priced version is great.

>>57139837
This is true

He tried homeopathy and yoga to cure his cancer

>>57138266
root an android for custom keyboards?!?!

>>57137583
>$59 each
>WILD APPLAUSE ENSUES
kek what

>>57137583
>We'd like to invite Phill Shiller on stage
haha fuck

>>57139163
>this

>>57139188
The OS doesn't have half of the android Capabilities

>>57137583
Planned obsolescence
No upgradability
Locked down software
No customization
Stupid buzzwords
Locked down hardware
And worst of all... FUCKING NORMIES

>>57137583
simply shilling

I hate their fucking shilling.

>>57138034
imagine jerking off with those mitts

>>57139904
THIS IS AWESOME

>>57139081
since when BMW is lux ?

>>57137583
the most correct answer
ITUNES

>>57139081
>comparing german made BMW's
to rebranded foxconn chinkshit

GTFO

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>>57138341
>Steve Jobs was a terrible person. He lied to Wozniak, he was a dick to his coworkers, he trusted holistic medicine over actual medicine until he was too sick to ever get better, he bought houses in 12 states to get on all of their organ donor registries, effectively using his wealth to buy an organ, and then he accepted an organ while terminally ill, a choice that almost certainly cost another person their life in exchange for six more months of his own. I'm glad he's dead.
You forgot about Lisa
>So did he
HEUGEEEEEEE

>>57143582
>pointing out a fact somehow makes me a shill
I have a RN3P you retarded faggot.

>>57137737
>basic optical mouse

You mean MAGIC mouse :^)

>>57143853
>>57143785
>>57143582
iSHILL BTFO