/tpg/ Thinkpad General

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>>57116961

What's the most thinkpad'ish modern laptop? In the sense of design and layout. I really like the design of, say, the t520(keyboard, mouseoptions, visually appealing), but I'd like nodern hardware and battery, preferably without frankensteining the entire thing. Modern lenovos are drastically different, not a big fan

Finally the thread is back
I got given an old acer ferrari 4000, has an amd something rather and 1gb ddr1, Whats a linux distro that will run smoothly on it?
>>57117820
The most modern ive been willing to go is a x230, the laptop goes so coolly im able to turn off the fan anf and for me thats a big win

>>57117864
>The most modern ive been willing to go is a x230
Yeah for me t520 is the most modern I'm willing to go. That's why I'm not asking for a thinkpad, but are there any other companies that does something similar? I don't even need the customization, I just want a sensible thinkpad-esque design

What do you think about 40 and newer series?

Hows the """retro""" thinkpad project going? Is it gonna fall into obscurity?

decent price for x230 ips i5 in europe ?

wanted to bid on that but will wait
http://www.ebay.de/itm/222277470252?&autorefresh=true

>>57118338
fuck it, it was 200 euro 20 secs before the finish

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nth for cute business laptop!

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>>57116961
Cop or not?

>>57118480
>stickers

i would buy that xiamomi 12" notebook for $600 i think its a good deal
check yt vids for reviews
win10 preinstalled for brainless usage ftw

anyone else embarrassed to bring their thinkpad out with them to public? I don't want to be seen as a poor.

Sup /g/ my x200t shutdown when i touch the motherboard's hatch, someone already got this problem ? Short circuit ?

>>57118561
it's like driving an old car, fagnon
most don't understand you, others understand your choice

>>57118561
> i'm so poor that i can't afford a windows licence, so i run linux on my shitty thinkpad. And yes i'm so so embarassed. so so so

>>57118561
No, and I have autism stickers all over it.

>>57118480
I have an 8460p that I used to use for school work, its pretty good and would be nice to carry around if the battery lasted for more than an hour.

>>57118561
>I don't wanna use a computer almost exclusively used for business, I would seem like I'm poor
>I don't wanna wear a business suit, people would perceive me as destitute

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>>57118526
What stickers, anon?

>>57118646
This is an 8470p. Really surprised at the build quality compared with a T430 (the competition). Miles better. Also has a meme smart card reader for whatever reason.
Trackpad is also much better, and the 900p screen is slightly better than lenovo's counterpart.

Bad things are dogshit trackpoint and a slightly inferior keyboard.

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>>57118719
Barely any difference between the two, apart from the fingerprint reader and keyboard.

Also, whats up with the shitty keyboard light? Who thought that was a good idea?

And also why is the screen so dim even on its brightest setting?

>>57118764
The screen is brighter than the T430 (which is not saying much).
The light is useable, not as good as thinklight (not as bright). The button for it is an interesting gimmick, I'll give you that.

>>57118592
Anyone ?

>>57118511
For me the crack would be the only offputting thing. If you have no safety net machine then its ok. You could always stream videos on your TV. Use it as a homeserver, if the cd-drive misses already you have even space for another hdd. I would buy it, if I hadn't enough old hardware laying around.

does anyone use jbidwatcher or other sniper for thinkpads on ebay ?

Any 3rd party/chinese/ebay vendors that sell quality discount batteries?

I'd like a 3-cell battery for an X220 tablet, and I don't want it to go to shit after a month, but the official Lenovo version cost almost as much as the laptop. If I've got no other choice and the official one is proven to last, I'll have to shell out the bucks.

>>57119049
Anker are good, but not as good as genuine lenovo batteries.
All others are utter shit.

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how true is this?

>>57119471
Literally the opposite of what you should do

Booting from mSATA and having most of your shit on the hard drive is the same as having your OS and programs on a desktop SSD and all your data shit on the HDD

Got an X220 with an mSATA and a HDD and it works like a dream

Where is that from anyway?

>>57119471
That's false. They only said that because in the "old days" the biggest size of SSD available was 16GB or something and it was therefore used as cache.
Putting windows on a 16GB SSD doesn't seem reliable at all.

>>57119492
t430 lenovo user guide

well it's either msata + hdd
or ssd + hdd in ultrabay

which should it be boyz

>>57119471
It's literally bullshit, just go for mSATA.

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>tfw t430 arrives brand new in box with 9cell, 9.5hr battery life
>tfw shit talked on chicklet keyboards for the last decade from t40-t410
>tfw chicklet keyboard is quite acceptable, same throw as the original keys (comparing to t400/t410)
>tfw gave gf her first memepad handmedown to shitpost on /g/

>>57119492
>>57119531
>>57119549
one more question, when you buy a t430, is the WAN card usually in there using the msata slot? How do you go around this if you wanna put an ssd in there?

>>57119535
mSATA in mpci-e
+
SSD in dribe bay
+
HDD in ultrabay
+
external usb 3.0 strapped with velcro to the back of the screen lid and permanently connected
+
boot device with puppy linux in usb pen drive

>>57119581
When you buy a T430, usually you have a wi-fi cvard in the smaller mpci-e and an unpopulated bigger mpci-e.
This mpci-e can come from factory with either WWAN card or mSATA SSD.
That's where the SSD should go, because it doesn't fit the smaller slot.
Which means you have to choose between WWAN and SSD.

That bigger mpci-e can also be used for other shit, like a TV tuner card or something.

are the newer thinkpads quieter than the older ones ?

>>57119625
I noticed with mine, I went to swap the factory drive with SSD and utilize my ultrabay for the factory drive, but the drive height is limited


fml senpai

>>57119535
>>57119588
This

mSATA + SSD + ultrabay HDD

SSD will be slightly faster and easier to stick into another device so id stick your OS on the SSD

>>57119581
WWAN is normally where mSATA is, normally you can either have a WWAN or an mSATA not both. If you need WWAN use the SSD for OS and ultrabay HDD for data

>>57119661
It only accepts 7mm high disks.

>>57119649
Not likely, since muh thin and light means that shit still gets hot despite Intel's massive improvements to thermals. My T601F is whisper quiet, even on the top fan setting.

If I buy a refurbished t520/t420 will I regret it? Never used a thinkpad before

is w10 more power consuming than w7? Will a full battery load lasts longer on w10 or w7?

/g/, while I do love my X230t I find it a tad too heavy and bulky for comfortable portable usage. Is selling it for quick cash to get a replacement a good idea if I live in the eurozone?

>>57120662
win10 is more battery friendly than win7.

>>57120711
I'll buy it for 50€ + shipping.

If I keep tugging on my nipples in a motion that simulates sucking for many weeks, will it induce lactation? What's the main difference between the t-series and w series?

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Is there a way to remap the thinkvantage button on an sk8845 if it's not plugged into a thinkpad?

>>57120582
nah

I wan to get an x230 on ebay and iv'e never used it before. What should be my work process? How do I find the best deal?

I don't get it, why did they move away from the classic layout? Are they insane?

>>57118333
Everyone's saying it'll finally be unveiled at CES, which is January 5th to 8th of 2017.

>>57121283
How costly will it be? Will it be a gimmick retro machine or a legitimately great business laptop? What are your predictions anon?

>>57121320
That it'll be a one-time only thing that will cost a shitload of money and only move a few thousand units and that I might buy one for 600 bucks two years from now.

>>57121366
Oh no. Don't you think a few ceo's will see the objective superiority and buy boatloads for their companies? The consumer section was never where lenovo made their biggest buck

Would it be alright to buy a used ssd or would I need to replace it anyway?

>>57121512
would you buy a used ram?

>>57121451
>Don't you think a few ceo's will see the objective superiority and buy boatloads for their companies
Nope. CEOs take advice from their CIOs (that's why they pay them the big bucks). They in turn listen to their IT staff who are busily populating their CVs with technology that will look good to a future employer.
It's a very rare CEO who actually knows what is happening in the boiler room.

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>>57116961
Guys, if an eBay seller accepted an offer, do i have to pay it? i found another one earlier

>>57121615
Wouldn't IT people appreciate it? And you only need one or two companies for more than "a few thousand"

Are there actually people that like backlit keyboards?

>>57121719
There's actually people that like Razer merchandise so I assume yes

>>57121755
I meant adults

>>57121642
Yes, you do have to pay it.

T410 any good guys? I need a new laptop, mostly for programming.

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>>57121778
Then this isn't correct?

>>57121949
Then what does "commits to buy" mean?

>>57122000
Actually wondering what that means

>>57120711
130 usd +shipping

>>57121719
I would buy it only for the looks. They look cool even if you know how to touch type.

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>get parts for t430
>Finish fixing it
>Turn it on and see this

>>57122184
I detest the look of backlit personality

How happy will I be with Debian + KDE on a x230?

How well does KDE run on a T420?

>>57122857
Fantastic, at least on Antergos.

I found this thread and it reminded me that I have a Dell Precision M6300 lying around not really doing much, which is a shame because its still in pretty good shape, but I don't have a ton of use for it. It's still got Windows XP running on it with like 1GB of RAM despite having a max of 8, so I was thinking about maybe installing a new OS, upgrading it, and fixing up some of the minor cosmetic issues. The only thing wrong with it as far as I can tell is that the HD doesn't seat properly, despite working totally fine, and the battery needs to be changed.

Anybody happen to have one of these or a similar model and are doing anything interesting with it?

Lenovo shipped my order to the wrong street address. RIP.

which thinkpad should I get if I wanted to triple monitors? the one it has and two external

Reee just give me a modern laptop with a good keyboard layout why does it have to be this way?

Is there a list somewhere that states what ultradocks are compatible with what thinkpads? Im trying to figure out my options for my w530.

>>57123252
Are there many laptops around that still have PointerSticks? I think thinkpads and some dell laptop are thr only ones.

>>57123344
google w530 dock

>>57123203
The W series has dedicated graphics cards so that would probably be a good start?

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>just got my T420
First thing I did was permanently disable Computrace. Now I'm waiting on an SSD I bought to do a clean Win 7/Ubuntu dual boot install.

>>57122365
Anyone know why this happens? If I move the screen a bit then this happens. Could it be the LCD cable?

Just got a X220.

What do you guys do to check to see if the system has overheating issues?

Any becnhmark test you recommend, just want to make sure the chinkpad I got is solid before the return window ends.

>>57116961

>have t60 laying around collecting dust
>decide to throw money at it
>buy T7200 C2D for 10 bucks
>120g SSD for 50
>holy shit this thing flies now

Will the Advanced Dock with the PCI-E port really make a difference in graphics? Can I run an ATI HD5800 or something comparable in one of these things? I don't game much on it but it would be a nice backup while I'm on the road.

Also if I go for the full T601F frankenpad will it still work with the advanced dock?

Also is there any way to rejuvenate a battery on one of these things? It dies around the 40% mark

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>>57124122
>>57122365
It also happens when I press on the palm rest

>>57124330
Due to a chipset flaw the T60 series can't run more than 3GB of memory, and that's RAM+VRAM.

People using the Advanced Dock for an eGPU typically have to use only 2GB of system RAM alongside a 1GB card.

>>57124338
Ribbon cable. Check your connection.

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>>57124285

pls reply

>>57124285
Check temperatures with hwmonitor and Stress it with CPU-Z for a couple of minutes on all threads while looking at the benchmark scores to see if it throttles.

>>57124686

Alright thanks will do. Any idea on what's considered ideal performance with the two applications you mentioned, assuming of-course you own a X220.

Thank you by the way.

>>57124536
its connected correctly. i guess i need to buy a new lcd cable

should i buy this /tpg/? what is the most i should pay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-DDR3-160GB-HDD-NO-OS-/381813049650?hash=item58e5d4c932:g:qUgAAOSw-CpX~5hR

Anyone else have trouble with the Advanced Centrino N-6205 rev34? Basically what happens (Ubuntu 16.04) is the Wifi will just be very spotty. for example slow, drops connection even though it says it is connected.

Anyone know what to do

>>57124773
Look for 900p T420's

>>57124753
Sorry can't help you with guidelines, I'm using a T420 with an upgraded Quad Core CPU.

I'd expect the same as a 2520m T420 though, something like ~45c idle and ~80-90c on full load.

>>57121642
>do i have to pay it?
Nah, just tell him it was a prank bro and shit will be gucci and cool as a cucumber, mein nigga.

>>57124773
Check the guides in the OP post; they have pricing info.

>>57124338
>>57122365
This is why I don't buy used computers or used parts.

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advice request, is it worthy?

>>57124816

Bought a used thinkpad from ebay. Ran like shit, replaced the components that needed replacing but the entire thing was fucked from the get-go.

Ordered from a authorized microsoft dealer with refurshibed comps and I got one in mint condition without a scratch for 200 dollars more.

Fuck it, worth every god damn penny.

>>57124338
there is a rubber foot underneath the left side of the monitor ribbon cable placement. take it out and warm it up and put it back tightening quickly before the rubber solidifies completely, or use a rubber spacer pad.

>source: nvidia issue for waifu's now current t400 that I've since replaced with copper plating and heat sink compound

>>57118561
>I don't want to be seen as a poor.

No one will think that. If anything they'll think you're rich. Normalshits don't know Thinkpads are cheap.

>>57122365
gpu is fucked

>>57124955
thanks for the advice but it turns out i hadn't set the palmrest bezel correctly. and the part thats near the lcd cable was tugging on the cable when i moved the screen or pushed on the palmrest.

Can an x220 run GTA IV?
not sure if i can waste the bandwidth on this game if I won't even be able to play it.

lowest settings doesnt' matter

>>57125851
My T420 could run Max Payne 3 so I think GTA 4 can run fine.

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My t60p finally needs a fix (touchpad regularly stops responding for a few seconds. new touch pad?) or a replacement.

I've not paid attention to lappy tech in 7 years since i got the t60, because everything now has the widescreen equivalent of 1997 resolution.

I found a cheap x131e which, of course, has shit-tier 1366*768, but it's small and looks sturdy.

I've not seen the x131e or other x1XXe models discussed in TPG threads, or in the TPG sticky info. Why is this?

Resolution aside, the specs are better than my t60p, and i'd run the same distro. So I would assume it'd be an improvement. Will i hate it if i get one? If so, how do i find a high-resolution t4XX, t5XX? Did they drop the "p" suffix for the newer models?

Other recommendations?

Could I get a good lenovo with which to edit image, video with an SSD for under 700? I'm a bit skeptical about used parts..

>>57126182
Seconding this anon; I too would be interested in an 11 inch thinkpad.

>>57126182
>Why is this?
Because for a very similar price you can get an X220 which is actually more or less the same size, has a real processor instead of trash-tier AMD E-series, and IPS screen options that won't make you want to gouge your eyes out.

>Did they drop the "p" suffix for the newer models?
The -p models became the W series. Although they did bring the suffix back for the T440p and T460p, it doesn't quite mean what it used to. T440p and T460p are successors to the T420 and T430 with full-voltage processors and modest dGPU options, while the non-p T440 and T460 are low-voltage ultrabook bullshit.

what does /tpg/ think of the E520?

I looking at the T5 series and i found one for reasonably cheap.

>People here will unironically recommend a T61 in 2016
Smh

>>57116961
Dat bicep vein looks sexy

Yo /g/. t520, i5, 4gb ram, 160gb hd, windows 8.1

150 bux. Cop? Y/N

>>57126813
y

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-T430-14-0-Laptop-with-Docking-Stations-Intel-Core-i5-3320M-2-60-GHz-8-/201673487719?hash=item2ef4ad3567:g:830AAOSwmfhX4ovX

Is this a good deal? $400 CAD after tax, with SSD, 8GB RAM and docking station.... seems pretty good to me.

>>57124834
Nay

>>57126795
I fail to see the issue here, Core 2 duo is perfectly usable.

how is the heat on the t430 with/without nvdia gpu
I want to get a thinkpad and br able to play cs go on it

Lenovo x240
14" Intel Core i5 (4th Gen) 4300U / 2.5 GHz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 / 1600MHz Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4400 / 4052MB
HDD: 128GB SSD Battery: 3-cell / 23Wh
Should I buy this for 250€

I reassembled my T400 and the left side of the palm rest won't lock in properly. The keyboard and the frame around it are completely flat against the rest of the case, but the left side of the palm rest just won't lock in.

Is there a trick to this or should I just buy a replacement palm rest?

T420 or X220?

>>57130305
12.5" display is too small for me so i'd go for the t420

whatever suits you best

>>57130305
x220

So I fell for the X220 meme, and am currently installing Windows alongside Xubuntu (dual-boot).

I've updated the BIOS to the latest version, and created a bootable USB from a clean copy of Windows 7 Professional, SPack 1, 64-bit.

Strangely, when installing, it freezes on the "installing features" part, and it's been 2 hours.

What am I doing wrong, /g/?
(md5 checksums are verified)

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I just bought a used x201 tablet on fleabay for 65 knowing it was to good to be true. Everything works until i found out the pin out for the battery is completely broken. How easy would it be just to solder one from a junk motherboard? or should i just replace the whole board entirely? pic related is what i need

>>57130418
It should be really easy, it's through hole and the pads are quite large.
Get a connector, or a broken board with a good connector for cheap and repair it!

>>57125851

Nah, GTA4 PC is horribly optimized, GTA5 both looks and runs better on my PC. Don't even bother trying on intel HD graphics.

>>57130399
Anyone?

>>57130517
>Don't even bother trying on intel HD graphics.
When this reddit meme end? intel HD are totally fine for older games

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Hi.

>>57130583
normies fucking leve

>>57130572

I specifically meant not trying GTA4 on Intel HD graphics.

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>>57130435
Yeah it looks easy enough although i only soldered a hand full of times. I assume all of them is soldered on but idk about the one on the edges. Wish me luck.

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>>57130669
Dumb frogposter.

>>57130798
Just be careful not to heat anything besides it and not heat it more than enough.

>>57119471
complete and total bullshit

this is how I ran my Thinkpad Yoga 14; booted linux off of the 16gb SSD, kept windows on the HDD in case I needed it

actually, is there a list of thinkpads with meats slots somewhere? I want another one but don't want the yoga crap, and the older and cheaper the better

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Got my T430 today :) I have an X220 and I'd heard all sorts of horrible tales of the 30 series chiclet keyboard, but I have to say it's surprisingly pleasant to type on.

>>57130938
I said the same thing to gf yesterday when mine showed up. did you get the dock too or nah?

>>57130972
Nah, didn't see the point. I have a more powerful desktop at home. I just spend a lot of my evenings at uni and the 1366x768 res was starting to get cramped.

>>57117112

you will never help bork laser install gentoo

>>57130938
how is the screen and temps
Also does it have the ThinkLight?

>>57118511
>Cop o
What's life like in Estonia? I'm considering visiting and seeing if it's comfy.

>>57118511
>tfw they don't put ads like this on actual selling sites that are used around here.

>>57131044
it's pretty comfy.
right now it's getting colder and colder, bring warm clothes.

>>57131069
Could I get away with only knowing English there? Is it prominently spoken?

>>57131029
Screen is good, color isnt the greatest but you cant really expect much there. I like the resolution. To me temps seem
a tad high, idles at under 45, as you can see in the pic. While that may seem okay, the fan turn on at the slightest use of more processing power and I hit 83 when compiling opencv.

>>57131084
Yeah, everybody speaks english. Some have an accent, but you can definitely get by with only english

>>57131084
majority of tourist attractions are available in english.
in fact, english is a more common language here than finnish or latvian.

What is the lightest /g/-approved ThinkPad?

I just want something to carry around between work and school to make spreadsheets and shitpost.

>>57131197
W700ds

>>57131197
pretty much any X series thinkpad, they are aimed at being small and they are relatively good at it.

>>57131236
Which one would you recommend?

Any upgrades?

What Linux distro would be best for the battery life?

>>57131260

x220 is 3.5 lbs, similar to a MacBook pro 13

depending on what condition you get it in, it could need a new SSD and a new battery

Ubuntu MATE or GNOME for me works great, so long as you install TLP and Powertop

>>57131230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUHOruzsvE

>>57130938
replace t430 keyboard with x220 one

>>57131317
Does this actually work?

>>57131029
the thinklight comes on these models, on mine (backlit keyboard) you have to hit fn+space three times, first is low backlight, high backlight then thinklight (which turns off keyboard backlight)

>>57131335
yes

>>57125662
Back in university, I ran into all sorts of normies who were stunned to see Windows 7 running on my T410. I never bothered explaining that it was actually leagues ahead of their HP consumer shit and cost $1,400.

>>57126813
Yeah I'd cop that shit.

>>57131283
Ubuntu MATE made a fucking powerhouse out of a shitty Acer netbook that was given to me. Highly recommended.

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>>57126182
is C1 the power supply in this circuit?

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Hi tpg!

I just bought a T410! Since I'm going to install a new OS on it, I figured I could use the preexisting windows licence for my desktop - but microsofts website won't let me download a Windows IOS.

Are the lenovo product keys bound to their laptops?

I promise pictures of the laptop in exchange for answers!

>>57131933

"The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for software recovery options."

This is the error I get from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7

>>57119729
>mSATA + SSD + ultrabay HDD
I'll be doing this. So far I've only got the mSATA SSD and an old 500 gb HDD. During the next few months I'll get an SSD for the main bay, a 1 TB HDD for the Ultrabay, and 16 gb of ram. I might just get the i7 and do the upgrade myself.

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can i join the club now

>>57125691
Good to know you were able to fix it my dude. Fuck those retards saying that buying used is a bad idea. I hope they enjoy their 800 dollar thinkpad lmao.

I recently bought an X230 as a simple laptop that ill put customer information in. Is there anything that I should know about this model? Querks, etc.

Post Speccy/screenfetch of your Thinkpads lads.

Curious about what setups is /g/ shitposting from.

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>>57132914
>Pinko
>Not Purple Smart
Fucking FAGGOT

If my budget is around 250, what's my best option for a thinkpad? I'm partial to it either being relatively small or being one of the reversible tablet types.

I'm seeing a lot of X230 tablets with i5's for only $200. Should I just go with that? Seems like a pretty solid price for me. Thanks for any/all assistance

Would a T430 upgraded to a 3612qm still get quite of few years of use (video editing, music production, gayman) when paired with say, an EXP GDC as an eGPU option?

Or would I be much better off scrimping and saving to get something like a P50 workstation with a 6700hq and investing in a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU setup down the road?

For small trips I have an X200 that is serving me well thus far, but I'm kind of tired of having a bulky desktop at home and would like something with power that I can travel with and dock at home and still be good as a desktop.

>>57133386
Yeah why not, that cpu has like 70% the benchmark score of the 6770hq.

>>57133260
Followup question: If I'm going with a X230T, should I shell out the extra 40 or so dollars for the SSD and third gen i5?

>>57133619
Go for an mSATA SSD if you'd like to add a second drive in the future, and X-series have a soldered cpu.

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My x220 comes in the mail today!

Thinkpad depot is apparently shit.

I just want a damn thinkpad without using eBay or craigslist

>>57133586
Basically all I needed was at least one person saying yeah sure for me to go with Option A, so thank you.

Also, is there any difference between x200/x200t/x201/x201t motherboards? Would like to put an i5 x201 motherboard into my x200t, just need to make sure I'm not buying a mobo that won't fit.

Maybe this isn't the right thread for this, but here it goes.

In January I'm gonna be going to central Africa for a period of 18 months.

I'll have internet access there, so I'' looking for a laptop to stay in contact with my family and friends.

I need a laptop with that is somewhat light (<5 pounds) good battery life (>5 hours) that is also resistant and can survive accidental drops.

Any recommendations? My budget is $500.

>>57133712
Alright, looking at a refurbished X230T, 3rd gen i5, 8GB ram, and a 120GB SSD. $235 w/shipping.

The trackpad and keyboard has a little more wear on them than I'd prefer, but I'll live. Looks like there might be a scratch or two on the screen too but it doesn't look too bad.

Thoughts on how good of a deal this is? I think I'm going to just pull the trigger, seems to be a really good price to me compared to everything else I can find.

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Do I win /tpg/?

>>57131108
Ma olen ka Tallinnas. X230 X220 klaviatuuriga. Hea ja ilusa arvuti.

>>57134572
and a merry allahu ackbar to you too anon

>>57133586
This CPU stagnation in performance is crazy, the 2720QM and 2760QM from 2011 also are around those scores and can really power up a T420.

Sadly the muh thin homosexuals have to ruin the modern cpus efficiencies by reducing the battery. Imagine a modern CPU with all the power efficiency technologies running on a T420 9-cell.

Why does the lenovo website think that my T420 is a T420i? What's the difference?

>>57134724
>got a W520 with 2720qm
>thinking about building a desktop
>would have to pay almost as much as the whole machine me cost just to match its CPU
Fucking Intel kikes.

>>57134813
no dgpu

but some t420 lack gpu too so nothing really

>>57134724
Can the T420 comfortably handle a Quad Core? I was thinking about getting the 2620 later this year after I get the Ram and drives I need. But it it is able to handle the 2720 then I might just go with that instead.

>>57134023
posting again for this question, should I go for it?

>>57134844
But the model in the laptop itself is T420. Also, I read something about the T420i having an i3 CPU, and my T420 has an i5.

I'm not really upset, I just wanted to understand.

>>57134867
I would never buy a laptop with scratches on the screen. But that's me, if you like it, buy it, the specs look good for the price.

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>>57134866
Not him but i've been using mine for some time and yeah, feel free to ask anything so you can see if it's worth it for you or not.

>>57135091
Alright, then I'll go for it. The scratch is really minor and worst case scenario I can replace the screen in the future when I have the cash to spend.

I just wanted to make sure it was good for the specs and stuff. Thanks for the input!

>>57135173
That's awesome. Did you need to upgrade the BIOS? Also, how are the temps? I'm basically just upgrading the RAM and CPU because I need to run some VMs for school.

>>57116961
isnt it time to change
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
>X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
to T430/X230? get on with time grandpa

>>57135173
Oh and I noticed you run 16 gigs of RAM.
Why 797MHz and not 1333?

>>57135189
>Did you need to upgrade the BIOS?
No, in fact i downgraded the BIOS to 1.37 so i could get 1600 MHz RAM instead of being maxed at 1333 MHz.

>how are the temps?
42-50c idling, 85-95c on full load. Keep in mind that the cooler is designed for a 35W TDP Dual Core and it's running a 45W TDP Quad Core.

>>57135232
>Why 797MHz and not 1333?
It's 1600MHz, Double Data Rate so 797*2.

>>57135203

Why? I still run an x200 with 8gb and an SSD. I never have any problems running everyday processes. I keep the x200 on a dock and use it with two 24'' 1080p monitors.

I've got a t420s for mobile use, but I don't use it often.

>>57135320

It's only 1594, nice try, dweeb.

>>57135320
>85-95c on full load
Actually it's closer to 90-95c with stress tests.

>>57135320
What about energy draw, how's the battery life? What about the power brick?

>>57118511
You may need to replace a few parts, but not too bad for that price.

>>57135328
you got me ;-;

>>57135334
>how's the battery life?
Didn't change much really but i'm sure that is because i tend to do most CPU intensive things when it's docked and charging instead of when it's running on battery.

>What about the power brick?
Mine came with the 90W brick so i kept using that one, it works fine.

According to thinkwiki.de if you upgrade to a quad core the 65W won't be enough but i haven't tested that so can't say for sure.

>>57135401
>>57135334
I have an i7 T430 w/nvidia gpu that came with a 65W brick and it's sufficient for most of the time, the only occasion where it's not is when I'm playing gta v. I suppose that it's due to it being very intensive on the gpu.

Just out of curiosity: how spill resistant thinkpads really are? Specifically, T420 and T430.

So, i bought a t450s for 425usd, how did i do?

>>57118719
where did you find that fellow portu-anon?

>>57121198
They are.

>>57135497
Depends.
Spilling shit on the side of the laptop? Instant death.
Spilling on the keyboard?
If X220/30 tests are anything to go by, the T420 would be a lot better than the T430, but both are likely to handle any spill you throw at them. Unless you're planning on spilling a gallon of water onto one of them, in which case, the T420 is probably better for that case.

>>57121194
eBay.

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going to meet some family member who has a W701ds from work for sale
wish me luck boys

>>57135889
dont fag it up with stickers like that x301 anon

I've got a W510. Thinking of upgrading. Should I get a W530 or something different?

>>57135939
oh i will

Anyoen else looking at that X62 some guy in China is making? Broadwell i7 in an X61 case, looks pretty nice. My worry is the price, $420 for just the motherboard, $700 or so for one w/o ram, battery, or storage. Still seems pretty competitive at those prices, however.

>>57119552
Definitely doesn't feel too bad. Just got me a x230 to replace my t420

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Laptop-Intel-i5-2-60GhZ-8GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-Windows-7-/322286148453?hash=item4b09c05b65:g:i5kAAOSwOyJX4ZnQ

any thoughts on this?

>>57137227
>1366x768

>>57137257
but it said 1600x900

>>57137275
I didnt see that so i put the MPN from the detailed information section through tp.krelay.de/index.php and it said 1366x768. Either that number is wrong, or the screen and ram was upgraded.

So what's a decent supplier of refurbished thinkpads?

I've been mostly using refurb.io, any better places?

>>57137306
shit you're right

>>57137336

Ebay is the best place. Anywhere else is going to rape you on costs. Read OP

>>57135401
>i tend to do most CPU intensive things when it's docked
Does that mean I will need to dock it? I basically just want to run a couple of VMs (one at a time) and maybe Photoshop (for dank meems).

>>57138073
>Does that mean I will need to dock it?
No, that means i can't say the impact on battery life with exactitude because i don't do very CPU intensive things on the go.

>a couple of VMs (one at a time) and maybe Photoshop (for dank meems)
I remember running a Windows Server VM + 2 Client VMs on my T420 at the same time for a class with the stock i5 2520m so you'll be fine even without the quad core.

>>57138265
Great thank you. I will probably still do the upgrade, even if it is just for the 2620, you know for a smoother experience in general.

>>57138073

Not that anon, but I run Qubes on my t420s with a stock 2520, 8gb and an SSD. It performs fine.

>>57138286
Thanks for the heads up my dude.

>>57138293

No problem. Honestly, I've run Qubes with half a dozen VMs open on an x200 and not had a problem.

Ram will be the biggest bottleneck, but even then you should be fine running 3-4 VMs with 8gb. Get 12gb if you're really nervous about it.

>>57137717
Ebay is out of the question as I'm in Canuckland.

Most shipments are from the US and I would get raped with shipping and that bullshit $30-50 import fee.

>>57138320
I'll just go with a 16 gb kit since it is more convenient, and not that much more expensive.

>>57138331

That's all there is. What are you trying to get? Even with the fees, ebay will still probably be cheaper.

>>57138332
>convenient
you must mean less autism triggering

just a heads up, sonic's arms are blue my dude

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>>57138395
fuck YOU

I need a cheap 1080p ThinkPad. Bonus points for a good CPU.

What models should I be looking at? Something I can get decently cheap refurbished.

>>57138446
T520/W520

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My x200 fan keeps making grinding noises, is it fucked?

I really don't want to replace it because it means I would have to take the motherboard out to access the fan + heatpipe assembly and I already failed at trying to access it a while back.

To remove the motherboard, you have to unscrew the display ribbon connector and it's stuck on so tight I couldn't remove it without stripping the screws.

>>57138484

Use a rubberband between the screw and screw driver.

Use a Ph0 screwdriver, it fits the best.

>>57138563
I'm seeing a lot of suggestions saying I should inject 1ml of sewing machine oil into the fan assembly to keep the bearings from wiggling around for a few months.

Is this a bad idea?

>>57138659

Just drill the screw out, or you can soak the screws in a lubricant to make them easier to remove.

why is this a thread? This is a tech board. Who in their goddamn right mind would ever buy a Lenovo product at this point? Fucking idiots.

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>>57126670
Thank you based anon. This was very helpful.

I looked at the x131e in person and you were right about the screen. Being so small it was easy to tip into a bad angle. The model i saw was an i3, but between the screen and the uncomfortably small touchpad, it was a no-go for me. Is the x220 touchpad the same size? In pictures it's hard to tell, but looks a little bigger - taller at least.

I came across a regular t60 today. I had no idea they were so slim compared to the t60p. I think I would be very happy with a w series.

I really appreciate your help.

>thinking it's about time I get a memepad since my x200 is too hot, loud, and slow, and I'm getting rid of my "new" thinkpad for a MacBook, because why fucking pretend to have a good ultrabook instead of actually have one
>look up x220's on ebay
>neat, only about $130
>realizing prices for upgrades
>IPS screen, SSD, mSata SSD, new battery, would be $80 bringing the total to over $400

damn niggas.

>>57139173
There's something about upgrading your ThinkPad that is satisfying as fuck.

I'm waiting for a functioning and available to buy 1080p upgrade kit to keep upgrading my T420 here >>57135173

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>>57131904
Looks that way.

I remember saving this image with the intent of taking a closer look later. Now i've forgotten the context. I think it was from a /diy/ thread probably a synth or guitar pedal thread. My best guess now is that it was a circuit fragment suggestion for something another anon was working on.

I used it here because everything else i have on this computer is non-blue board or motorbikes. Here is a customized '80s yamaha fz600.

>>57121642
Just cancel if it hasn't shipped yet

>>57139173
That's still gonna be way better than any laptop you can get for 400-500$ new

>>57139173
You didn't have an ssd or an msata for your x200? Just ditch it and move all the nice parts to your x220

>>57139927
>x200
>msata
wait what

>>57139977

No msata for x200. Sandy Bridge was the first for that.

>>57139999
I know that's why i was asking him because he said moving an msata ssd from an x200 to a x220.

>>57140028
Well it is possible with an adapter

>>57119552
no one cares that they're chiclet, they fucking took a whole row off and moved shit around on the newer boards

>>57123393
the same that always did

(ibm + lenovo)/dell/hp enterprise laptops

>>57130572
not really, not sandy bridge integrated anyway

>>57126397
w520 or w530

>>57130090
you'll definitely want the nvidia gpu

if the heat on the t430 is anything like the t420, it handles itself fine but vents very hot air out the left

>>57130399
>>57130542
Did GNU/Linux install fine or did you not do that part yet?

>>57138835
ThinkPads were not always Lenovo, and these threads focus on old/used models generally.

>>57116961
How many years from this point onward will the T420 remain a viable option?

>>57140464
video games aside, probably forever

>x220
>running fine, idles at 40-45
>need antivirus software so I download avira
>fan goes from quiet to jet like
>idles at 60
>wtf is going on
>delete it
>still idles at 60

I think I broke it. No idea what to do.

>>57118480
>not leaving stickers on so nobody can tell you know what you're doing on a computer
fuckin pleb, let nobody know who you are. don't change your background, don't talk about your interests, don't type with more than 2 fingers around other people. if you let anybody know, you're fuckin done for. typing from behind 10 proxies

>>57134284
>He fell hard for the meme

Can 1600MHz ram be installed in a T420?

>>57116961
I got memed into
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
My x200 cuckpad has awful keyboard, it fucking sucks. It needs too much pressure to type something.

>>57130418
? Doesn't look broken in the pic.

>>57134572
Do you know any places where I can look for X220T in EE? okidoki has only 1 ad and I don't think it's valid anymore

>>57135713
X230 on Sweden
8470p on UK
Both though eBay.

what is the best thinkpad I can get for my mum? she's computer illiterate, would be for basic browsing, good battery life preferable.

Got T560s from work. Lots of battery time.

>>57142467
which one do you like the most?

>>57116961
How do I fix a USB port that's starting to get loose?

>>57143493
Resolder.

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>>57140464
Taking this >>57134724 into account, at least 10 years from now on along with the T430 and the X220/X230.

>>57143709
so I have to buy a new one then?

>>57118511
What is this website

How do you guys feel about the thinkpad 10?

Why does reddit have to drive up the fucking prices so much jesus christ

>the cheapest X200 here is $120 and BIOS locked
fuck this shit

>>57143801
Facebook, you maggot.

>>57118511
I paid more for my T61. Truth to be told, it didn't have cracks and the clit was there.

>>57138484
My X220 fan was doing that. I just replaced the entire HSF assembly.

>>57141030
Stop using Winshit.

Dear /tpg/,
My t400 died of a motherboard failure a couple of weeks ago. I finally manage to get a nice t420 today for 200$ cad, a lucky find.
Now. I'm getting a bit paranoid because my t400's motherboard failure and I'm afraid I might fuckup the t420.
It happened a little while after I installed arch on it, to try something different from windows. I did notice that my fans were really quiet under arch. Could it have been that the fans didn't work properly under arch and fried the laptop while it was idle?
Linux spooks me now tbqhwyfam

Any Israelis lurking the boards? Wonder if looking for a ThinkPad is worth it, living in Israel and all.
The local 2nd hand websites offer very overpriced laptops. Might eBay be a plausible option then?

>>57144462
linux is a meme

>>57134824
The 2720QM is still a beast of a chip. I have the same W520 configuration, and with an SSD the thing absolutely murders my girlfriend's brand new Macbook Air. Plus it can keep up with a lot of the modern low-voltage Thinkpads.

>>57143776
10 years may be a bit optimistic, but I can see the xx20 series still being useful by the time Windows 7 bites the dust.

>>57144462
Never had any (major) issues with Arch on any of my T or X series ThinkPads. Run the command 'sensors' to see your fan speed under Linux.

>>57144462
>Wanted to try linux
>Installs Arch
You had it coming to you, next time you know what to do

>install gentoo

>>57144497
If the fees are not insane, your best bet is probably american ebay.

>>57144554
Yeah, I did and everything was working properly. I suppose it was just getting old then.
>>57144557
But I did install gentoo at first. Had everything working, but compiling every single thing was a little too long for me famalam

I'll install Antergos later this week and see how that works.

>>57144591
Hell, you may just be able to slap your old Arch drive in the new laptop and have it work fine if you wanted.

>>57144591
>T400
>compiling was too long
my nigger EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=4 --quiet-build=y"

>>57122940
I have a Thinkpad W500 that I still use, which is sort of the Lenovo equivalent to your Dell. Has a Core 2 Duo T9400 running at 2.53 GHz and even with a fucking hog like Windows 7 it is still more than sufficient for what I need it to do. If you get an SSD for your Precision, you could conceivably use it as an everyday machine.

>>57121283
If it actually comes out, I may finally consider replacing my W500. This would be the second Thinkpad I owned, and the only one I bought new. Hopefully it isn't shit.

>>57144548
>10 years may be a bit optimistic
The T61 from 2007 still works fine though, not the best but fine.

>>57144591
This >>57144685
Another reason why you shouldn't pretend you're 31337 and stick to something that works, like ubuntu, mint or fedora. Nobody cares about the distro you use, faggot. I'm a sysadmin, I use mint on my personal laptop and ubuntu on my work laptop.

>>57144722
True, and the CPUs have evolved a lot slower since we got to the "i" series.

>>57144735
But Anon, I never did pretend I was a 1337H4x0rz, in fact I'm quite illiterate, I just wanted to try something new.
I installed Gentoo for the meme of it, had fun doing so, and I figured the next logical step was to try Arch.
Sorry Senpai, I didn't know those distros were secret clubs, I won't do it again I promise.

>>57144722
It may still work fine for now, but how about 5 years from now?

That is what I was getting at. A T420 has about another 5 years to go before its best before date, aka 10 years from release date.

>>57144789
Yeah but you could safely extend five years because of the current CPU performance stagnation imo, even more when you add a quad core on it.

>>57144787
You're like a kid that put his hand on the stove burner, gets extremely surprised that he burned his hand and vows never to use a stove again.
Grow up, you don't build a house starting from the ceiling, you don't learn linux starting with uber complicated distros.

What are the chances the retro thinkpad will be with anti microbial keys?

is a used T420 worth $326.11?

>>57144815
But, Senpai, all I did was ask if my Arch install could have been responsible for malfunctioning fans, and thus, the death of my motherboard.
I honesty thought that trying something that doesn't work straight out of the box was a great way of learning things. But I'll take your words and install Ubuntu.

Is a refurbished T420 with 8 gigs of RAM, a 240 SSD and a 2.8GHz i7 processor worth $508.49?
They offer insurance for about a year.

>>57144995
Only if you live in shitland.

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>>57144974
>>57144995
dont get cucked m80

>>57144995
That's a $250 laptop unless it's like brand new in box

I'm going to install gentoo tonight on my t420. What DE will support its keys like volume control?
Or maybe you have some configs to awesome/i3 which includes that support?

>>57144995
To give you some perspective, I paid 300€ for my T430 with i7, nvidia gpu and 6GB RAM. Even that was too much, but I really wanted the nvidia gpu and i7.

Oh, and insurance is a rip off, if you do have a problem they will most likely make some shit up so they don't have to activate it.

>>57145022
You're in for a world of pain, dear friend. Godspeed.

>>57145039
>>57145022
not really

use stage4 to get to a working config, the stock kernels that ship in that stage usually work but sometimes you will have to modify TZO in kernel config else it will panic on boot.

boot into your setup, tweak what didnt work/your make.conf and emegre --sync && emerge -uD --with-bdeps=y @world

nigga please

>>57145039
Actually installed succesfully in vm but my internet connection where I live during my studies sucks and I don't want to spend 2-3 days just to try things when I was already using tilling wm's with pleasure.
>>57145063
That's some useful info, thanks anon-kun

>>57144998
>>57145004
>>57145013
>>57145029
Alright, thanks for the constructive feedback everyone.

A relative of mine is apparently going to be in the US next month, and he said he could pickup a package for me if I were to order anything.
Where can I order a T420 for a decent pricetag in the US?

>>57145129
ebay

>>57143128
X230 because it's smaller.
The other is for the gf and is a great machine too. Sturdier than a T430.

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>>57139108
is that a steel dildo attached to your bars?

New thread:
>>57146257