/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first for quad core + dgpu housefires

What's the over-under on current generation Thinkpads, Elitebooks, and Latitudes?

I'm replacing my home office laptop this month and I'm contractually obligated by my clients to have professional support so I can't really buy anything else besides the above (or a mac *cringe*) lest I get into some legal trouble if my backups shit the bed.

Any thoughts? I'm a Java and Web (Node,React,Angular) consultant.

am i the only one who gets eyecancer of the ThinkPad W530's screen?

>>57090696
IT services here. I've had my hands on all the current gen "professional grade," hardware. My thought about the skylake generation is to avoid it. Literally none of them made good trade-offs. They all went too thin and it cost them thermally. None are going to perform well in two years, much less four. Keyboard quality is down across the board. Trackpads are the only thing that was actually improved, but barely.

Not that macs are better by comparison, their throttling is legendary, but quite honestly I would look for a broadwell "new," that is still under service warranty. You should have no problem finding one. Thinkpads > Latitudes > Elitebooks for that generation.

>>57090696
>professional web developer
>doesn't want a mac
Do you just hate yourself?

For those with the X-series tablets, what GNU/Linux distro are you running, and how is the touch/pen support on it?

>>57090949
I'm just not a mac user. Never have been. I ran Windows up to XP and then transitioned over to Linux during the Vista years when I started my own company. Never had even a moment at the keyboard of a mac so picking one up with several important clients on contract is a really bad idea for me. If worst comes to worst I'll just limp another six months on my current machine until the warranty is out and see what the kaby lake generation looks like.

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>>57090696
>thread typically has people who buy used laptops and hate anything past 2013
>this guy is asking about newly released laptops that maybe 2% of this board uses

Just get something with an SSD and be done with it, dock it, place a USB fan underneath.
Who cares if it breaks, you got a backup of your files and you're going to get it paid off/replaced anyways.

All three companies basically have the same type of warranty service. Pay extra $$$ for their top class. Just get something with an SSD and intel graphics if you want to be safe, unless you're doing extensive dGPU stuffs.

As far as build quality... There's too many damn laptops to say 'this brand is good'. I thought the X1C3 was a tad underperformer so I rock a T430s. Currently flipping an E7440, this is pretty decent machine, just battery life isn't great with an i7.

>>57090972
Xubuntu & Ubuntu studio works on my X61T and X230 when I had it. I believe wacom drives should work, not too familiar with the sensitivity but it should work near perfect, never had to calibrate the display when installing.

>>57091095
>Who cares if it breaks, you got a backup of your files and you're going to get it paid off/replaced anyways.
My lawyer. Specifically, we work with some government contracts and it's mandatory we're provisioning hardware that's fully covered by the manufacturer. If for some reason that weren't the case, we could easily be fined and lose the ability to get more of those sweet sweet contracts (gov't work is by far the easiest and best paying).

>>57090329
Newfag X220 user here. Using the one I posted a couple of threads ago for £120. This thing is comfy as fuq.

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>>57091271
did you not read about the part where I said pay $$$ for their top class machines?
Most of these business class laptop meet MIL spec standards, if this isn't good enough for your lawyer, go buy a ToughBook or Getac instead of Dell/HP/Lenovo/Apple.

How can we tell you which laptops are good and reliable when the previously built computer is out of warranty and the newer machine uses different components and different build designs? People who were Apple only found out the hard way with the 2010-2012 MBPs that had shit GPUs. Same went with the ThinkPad X240 blank screen problem when a certain corner is lifted, it didn't happen on the previous machine.

Normally these machines new have a 3 year warranty, they also have a 2 and I think 5 year additional warranty should you want to pay for it.

Nice to know you come to a serious place like 4chan for a laptop that meets government contract standards.

You're more than likely to see there are problems with new computers than people not having problems with them. And those which are reliable that have no problems, most likely out of warranty/service unless you get one direct from the manufacturer, I would be sure to call them how far the warranty can be held.

Wait til Kaby lake so the late models get dipped in price.

>>57091316
X220 MASTER RACE
Nice buy!

Is $110 good for a X220 with no hard drive or charger? I imagine i would have replaced it anyway.

>>57091271
Then just get whatever is cheapest in order to save your employers (AKA every taxpayer) money. New ThinkPads aren't as great as the old ones, so it's just a matter of preference. As >>57091095 said, they're pretty much all the same under warranty.

>>57091546
>Nice to know you come to a serious place like 4chan for a laptop that meets government contract standards.
To be honest there's better technical advice here than CDW.

>>57092153
Addendum: I can't recall the models but if you go for a ThinkPad, some models have deeper key travel than others. If you like the typing experience on older keyboards, deeper travel is a good thing.

Where's the best place to get a new battery for my T61p?

Also how long should a 6-cell get me? Bought the computer and it had an almost-dead battery so I don't actually know the true battery life.

I think I saw a ruskie slavshit in previous thread, are you still here, anon? Can you tell which mail forwarders did you use? How much did it cost/how long did it take, etc.

Thinkpad 13, yay or nay?

My neighbor called me saying my home got broken into while I was gone, I am most concerned about my thinkpads being stolen :""(

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>>57093267
Yeah bandits are normally dumb and don't know the value of most tech. Which leads them to grabbing the wrong things

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P O S T
P I C S

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>>57093267
Good luck anon
I hate thieves.

>>57093337
>tfw cant remove sticker because it'll have that color discoloration
Gonna have to deal with it.. ugh

>>57093267
memepads aren't usually on the priority list of people stupid enough to steal in the first place

Good luck, hope they didn't shrek the place

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>>57091574
Isn't there a better deal with battery on ebay? Btw I just bought a x230 (320gb, battery and charger) for $150. Only thing broken is the plastic palmrest.

>>57090329
I have a few things to add to the pastebin if the owner is around

I don't want to chase the thread until it 404s and then just override the old one since I think whoever manages that link would be happier to just add what I have.

>>57090741
I owned one TN thinkpad
Everything after that was an IPS model

Using TN screens is suffering

>finally got a X2xxs 1440x900 display on the X201
Jesus fuck this is way better, I can't use anything else anymore.

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Want to recalibrate my laptop with TLP.
Does it only work with Thinkpads or any laptop?

>>57093232
Honestly.... nay. It might look good on paper with the price but I guarantee they put WAY more quality and time and money into designing the T and X series because those have been the mainstay/most popular for ages now

Can someone recomend me a dual band wireless card for the X220 that works without proprietary drivers? Thanks.

>>57091546
>top class
>this
pick one

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X220T or X230T and why?

>>57093786
If you buy the x220 you get to feel superior but if you buy the x230 you will always be like "damn maybe I should have got the x240" or 50 or 60 etc.

>>57093820
Why?
x230s are barely more expensive than the x220s, the keyboard feels better to type on, and all models have usb 3.
While the 40 series are still $100+ or more over the 30 series.

>>57093836
Defenitly the specs are better but if you dont need intel hd 4000 then the superior keyboard experience will always be on the original. It's not just the layout but the classic design and the feeling when sliding your fingers between the keys.

>>57093863
Why the hell would you be sliding your fingers between the keys?

>>57090329
Curious guys, should I get the 7th Gen AMD or 7th Gen Intel Thinkpads, doesn't matter which model.

Just curious as to which one might be better.

>>57093875
explain to me how you find the home row

>>57093890
AMD I'd always cheaper, but higher risk of housefire.

>>57093898
>he calls it home row
don't you have homework to finish pablo?

>>57093909
>Call it by the correct name
>Now im spanish
Well. That's just perfect...

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>>57093903
jesus man, he's buying a thinkpad not a note

>>57093930
>spanish

>>57093898
after I've used the computer for longer than 30 minutes I just know where to put my fingers 99% of the time.
and how the hell is it better? I just find the bump on the f and the j keys faster on my t430 over my t420.
>>57093890
never get amd in a laptop.
EVER

>>57093903
>>57093962

Actually, when I saw someone mention Getac in the thread, I went on ebay to see what there was.

So I've got an i7-640M in the lappy I'm posting on (E6410), and the Getac V100X is missing HDD, OS, Battery, Caddy.

CPU is a 640UM, 1.2 GHZ.

I CAN remove the CPU from this laptop, and the other parts aren't too much of a burden.

The Getac is running for 67 bucks, which isn't too bad, but seriously-

I'm pretty sure I can get the other parts for it, it's just I gotta do a bit more research to see if the Getac CPU can be replaced.

So much for a thinkpad, lel.

>>57090329
Anyone have a link to the alienware mx14 or whatever screen that will work with a t420/30?
Also how hard is it to replace the screens?
I plan on getting the alienware screen for my t430, putting the 1600x900 screen from my t430 in the t420, then selling the t420.
Also what's the FRU for the HD+ lvds cable?

>>57090329
What's wrong with the E series? I was considering a E560.

>>57094323
Cheap build quality
Basically a consumer grade laptop with a think nipple
>>57082739
>>57082750
1 gig of vram
and yes you have the 5400m, or yes it throttles like a bitch?
I take it that it doesn't throttle like a bitch since you suggested overclocking it

>>57094363
What should I get instead then? I don't want to get a 5 year old laptop, but all the new ThinkPads look like shit.

>>57094395
What do you really need it for?
Because remember the x220 with lenovo power manager can get 10 hours of battery life, and still performs pretty well for just casual web use.
and if you turn off the power saving stuff, you can easily get a web browsing experience comparable to a newer thinkpad.
The only thing these older laptops struggle with is gpu performance, so if you aren't gaming you'd might as well get a 4-5 year old thinkpad for dirt cheap

>>57094363
Should I get one of these for my t430 to see if it helps with the throttling?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-T430I-CPU-Fan-And-Heatsink-0B41089-/191987413800?hash=item2cb3577328:g:HO4AAOSwAuZX6nzy 

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-LENOVO-ThinkPad-T430-T430i-CPU-Cooling-Fan-With-Heatsink-04W3269-04X3788-/201678343949?hash=item2ef4f74f0d:g:Kv4AAOSwa-dWr4m6 

I'd like for this thing to be a really nice backup laptop in case my main laptop dies or something, but the throttling is killing me.

Is there a 9 cell battery for the x220 tablet?

>>57094454
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-0A36283-Cell-Battery/dp/B004UC3K4C
I think there's only an 8 cell battery for the x220t since it's hinge is in the way.

>>57094429
Just everyday use, and watching movies.
I want to edit video, but I plan to get a dekstop later down the line for that.

>>57094475
I was looking at that one but it looks like I'm stuck with a 6 cell. My original won't hold more that 3 hours of power.

Hi my x201 is getting pretty hot, is that normal? ;-;

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>>57094667
oops I forgot the picture ;_;

I get about 2.5 hours out of my T420 9 Cell battery. That's on power saver mode too. Is there a replacement I could buy that isn't $50+? I got a second one on eBay for $20 but it's even worse than the first one.

yeah they like to run hot

for when new thinkpad? its been almost 3 years.

>>57094518
Oh yeah an x220/t420 will be fine for that as longs as you aren't dealing with really long videos
>>57094679
never use speccy to monitor temps, it's fucking awful.
Use real temp
90+c under load is when you need to start to be worried, but as long as it's under 100c you are good (especially if it's turbo boosting at that speed)
>>57094680
power saver on windows 10?
and what are you doing on it?
On windows 10 I'd get 4-5 hours normally, and like 5-6 with power saver on on my t420.
But in windows 7 with lenovo power manager I can easily get 7-10 hours
Also I'd suggest turning off the dgpu if you aren't using it, it's on 24/7 even if you aren't using it.
>>57094711
should be out around the end of the year/beginning of 2017
and what are you talking about 3 years? last one came out earlier this year, and the one before that came out early on in 2015

>>57094724

Just shitposting mainly.

>>57094724
which was the latest one? where im looking at the latest one was x1 carbon realesed on jan 2014

>>57094741
oh wait, there are generations of the x1 carbon, nevermind

>>57094071
Hey whaddya know, the mobo+CPU CAN be removed.


I'm going to have fun come christmas.

>>57094724
>Oh yeah an x220/t420 will be fine for that
Fine for video editing?
I still have mixed feelings about getting something so old, there's no warranty and no new parts being made.
And I was hoping to get something with more HDD space, like 1TB.

Question: what's the thinkpad with the absolute longest battery life? I have a Thinkpad x201 with 2 9-cells (one old and one new battery), and I consistently get around 9-12 hours with the new 9-cell 0-100. However, I like to keep my battery between 40-80% for longevity's sake, and that means I'm only getting around 4-5 hours of battery before I start to run below 40%. I love the computer, and I have no real problems with it except my own battery-related autism, but if there's a thinkpad which runs longer, I'd love to hear about it. If not, I'm probably just going to install libreboot on a Asus C201 for a fourth laptop.

>>57094814
Easily.
Obviously rendering won't be very fast, but compared to newer dualcore laptops it will only be like 20% slower, for 20% the price.
and you can easily upgrade the hard drive, although please don't put an hdd in a laptop in 2016, just get a 250/500gb ssd, and an external hdd if you really need that extra space (which you probably don't)
And warranty is only useful for shitty laptops, or during the first month you have it (infant mortality).
Outside of that first month or two if it's still going strong it will for a long time (especially a thinkpad)
>>57094826
with the x220/x230 you can get the turbo battery on the bottom to get 20+ hours battery life.

>>57094870
>20+
That's goddamn sexy, anon. Thank you.

what thinkpad should i get? my budget is 300 usd

>>57094907
>$300
Do you like em small or large? Battery? Speed? Screen?
If you don't care, just get an X220, best all-round laptop. If you want to go cheaper, X201, which are just as good, if not better in a few ways.

>>57094907
What do you want?
Thin and light with great battery life?
Big, but really powerful?
Or something in between?
I'd say go with a t420/t430, and get an ssd for it if you don't know what you are looking for since it's a nice balance of both.

>>57094870
>and you can easily upgrade the hard drive
I have no idea how to do that. I'm not a tech guy.
>please don't put an hdd in a laptop in 2016
I'm pretty sure my laptop now has a HDD and it runs fine. I'm looking for a lot of space on a $500 - $550 budget.
>Outside of that first month or two if it's still going strong it will for a long time
I'm not sure if I agree with that. My Yoga 13 was pretty great, but the battery got fucked up.

>>57095078
Batteries usually only have a 90 day warranty since they die fairly quickly no matter what
and how did you kill it?
and a t420/t430 + a 250gb ssd, and a 1tb external hdd will easily be under $500. Hell you can probably get it for under $350.
and trust me, an ssd in a laptop is really nice.
Especially since you can throw it around and as long as you don't drop the whole computer it will be fine.
Hell if it's just the ssd you can throw it against the wall and it will be fine.
But one bump while a hard drive is spinning and it will be pretty fucked up.

>>57095121
>and how did you kill it?
I'm pretty sure it just died.
> a t420/t430 + a 250gb ssd, and a 1tb external hdd
There's no good ThinkPads that are 2 or 3 years old?
I'll try to get one with SSD since it's apparently that big of a difference.
I already have a 1TB external HDD, but it's almost full.

>>57095149
Don't but a thinkpad with an ssd, it's usually old and it's a terrible deal.
and all of the 2-3 year old thinkpads are $400+ for a working one with shit specs.
and to replace the hard drive in a thinkpad is dead simple.
Just 1 screw, take off the cover, pull out the old drive, slide in the new one, and screw the cover back in. you can easily do it in less than 2 minutes. Any 2.5" sata ssd will work, ideally get an 850 evo since they are very reliable, and are really cheap.
Just make sure you have a usb drive ready to reinstall windows (or whatever os you want). and DON'T stick with the OS you get when you buy one used.

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Does anyone have experience with painting laptops? Specifically thinkpads?

I've done some searching and the results seem to be about what I want. As the thinkpad was inspired by bento boxes, I'm thinking that a black lacquer like exterior would look nice on an x220.

>>57095214
Well there was a guy like a year ago who painted his t400(?) bright as orange.
I think he said it took hours to do.
No idea how long it lasted though.
Then there was someone on leddit who plastic dipped his macbook and after like a week or two it started to come off.
And why would you want to take it from matte black to a shinny black?

>>57095171
I'll just accept that there are no good laptops and keep using my duct taped one with the cracked screen.
That may be nothing to you, but there's no way I wouldn't fuck it up.

>>57095273
If you break a real thinkpad™ without trying.
Honestly as long as it doesn't land on it's open screen a thinkpad will be fine.
I've seen people drop their thinkpads off of ladders and they only broke a small corner on it (and honestly it wasn't that bad)

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>>57095255

I'd like to make it gloss for a lacquered finish look, like a bento box. Which is what the original industrial design of the thinkpad was based on.

I'm kinda also wondering if an auto protective film would help. At least for the lid.

>>57095298
what are you trying to say here? I meant I'm going to fuck up installing everything. It's not worth it.

>>57094680
Your only options are:
>~$80 for a genuine 9 cell
>~$50-60 for a legit Chinese or Aftermarket replacement battery
>Everything under $50 that will be shit and/or explode.

>>57095348
I'm not him but come on dude you can't fuck up installing an SSD on a thinkpad, it's a single screw and nothing else.

You even have a hardware maintenance manual for most Thinkpads explaining in detail about how to remove a screw if you can't do it.

>>57095405
I don't want to do it either. It's ridiculous.

Do you guys have dither in videos, like vsync isn't working properly, on T420?
Happens a little on YouTube videos, and at the top sometimes on mpv.
It has the nvidia dgpu, but I have it deactivated, HD3000 should perform well for that, right?

>>57095537
linux?
happens all the time on linux, never happens for me on windows.

>>57095537
I don't, Windows 7 and mpv + youtube-dl here.

The hd3000 should be more than enough for that, it even runs 1080p 10bit cartoons flawlessly.

How much of a temp difference would I get if I repasted my x220?

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>>57095214
> black lacquer
> cyberpunk af
> tfw chinks will never make an s32 mod

>>57095922
Do you realize how retarded question is that?
Holy shit, gtfo

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>>57093513
fuuug, i want one in europe!

if my lappy would be docked 90% of the time and hooked to an external monitor, would the x-series be the better choice ? from time to time i have to travel, so size would come handy too

>>57095922
usually like 3-5c
maybe 10c if the chinks did a really bad job at the factory
>>57096027
I don't get it, how is that question retarded?

Have bought an x220 just recently and now considering memory upgrade. So, from what I gather, it is able to handle 1600mHz ram modules, but would still run them at 1333mHz. Is that correct?

Hi guys! I have just bought a pretty comfy X230 and I am considering which dock to buy for it. Ultrabase or Mini dock? Sure, from the specs you can see that ultrabase has an ultrabay and no USB 3.0, but does anybody have hands on experience with these?

>>57096519
Yes.

Same limit applies to the T420 but it can run 1600MHz or 1866MHz RAM by downgrading to the 1.37 BIOS, not sure if that also works with the x220.

>>57090329
Can a t420 keyboard work in an x220t?
I got my t420 with a pretty much perfect keyboard, and I'd like to put it into an x220t whenever (if ever) I get it.
Also is there any way to turn off the dvd drive in windows 7?
It keeps on popping out and I keep on getting the cursor thing where it trying to read a disk

>>57096519
I have two x220's, one is with 1.26 bios that detects my 2x8gb 1600Mhz ram modules as 1600 and the other with 1.42 that detects them as 1333.

Is there a difference between the x201 battery and a x220 battery?

Are there any ultra docks with fans on them for cooling your laptop? Maybe after market ones?

Best ubuntu flavour to install?

>>57097112
Slackware64 w/ multilib

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>>57097112
Mate

Someone dissuade me from looking for X220T and tell me to get a X220 instead

>>57096196
Yes, the CPU is the same as on the T series. It might get a bit hotter but it's not a problem for me at least (I can comfortably play EU4 and HoI4 on my X230) and the added portability is definitely worth it

I'm having problems with wifi in my X201s. Usually it wouldn't work after suspend and now it doesn't work at all. Where do I start troubleshooting?

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Okay so which one of you was this?

>>57097605
I didn't know the Windows tech support uses Thinkpads.

>>57097573
Have you checked the hardware switch?

Anyone play Europa Universalis 4 or Crusader Kings 2 on their X220/X230? How does it run.

This could potentially be very comfy.

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YO NIGGAS

>>57098338
comfy af

>>57098338
whats the e-reader?

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>>57098338
> shortwave
> e-ink
Mein neger

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>>57098338
>>57098614
what e-reader?
what shortwave radio do you recommend? I wanna git comfy

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>>57098695
Pocketbook 624, you better get a kindle though.
Degen DE1103 is an old SWLer meme, nice sensitivity, has SSB for listening to hams and SKYKING SKYKING DO NOT ANSWER NOVEMBER INDIA GOLF GOLF ECHO ROMEO AUTHENTICATION EIGHT EIGHT.

>>57090329
I have a functioning 390x.
Don't know what to do with it. It's kinda too old for anything useful.

Any ideas? How much would it get me on ebay?

Just purchased my first thinkpad off of eBay for $35. It's a t60 that comes with charger and a battery that "works well". How did I do? Also, looking for some recommendations on a light weight disro.

>>57098756
use it to show htop on your main computer via ssh or something

>>57098743
Thanks, anon.
You're a cool cat.

>>57098171
Yeah, it works for bluetooth and 3G but wifi doesn't turn on at all.

>>57090329
How's the Thinkpad X1 Carbon? I'm looking at a lot of first gen ones for around $300. Is that a good deal or should I be looking at any other models?

Just for reference I am looking for something compact and lightweight. Not really too interested in the Ideapad series.

>>57098857
That's a nice project. But not really useful for me. It would look cool, but I'd never use it. Since I'm on Windows 80% of the time and just dualboot into linux for maintaining stuff and tinkering.

Just for interest, are there similiar options for windows?

Is it worth shelling out the extra money for a tablet variation of one of the X series or is the tablet function more of a meme?

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>>57099402
Fuck no. The tablet is shit and you can't get 9 cell batteries with tablet variants.

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Do we have any vegancucks here?
Just wanted to say hi

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What's the catch?

>>57100309
Stock photos.

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>>57100309
Nevermind that. What's the catch here?

>>57100048
and what is this shit?
and what thinkpad?

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should I, /g/?

sort of want a non-dinosaur laptop with a 1080p screen.

>>57100519
not a thinkpad
>windows 10 home
wew lad

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>>57100532
silver version is cheaper and has an aluminum lid and 1080p IPS standard but looks ugly

>>57100519
Go right ahead, then feel free to come back and bitch about how /g/ tricked you into falling for the Thinkpad meme because you're a fucking retard.

any performance differences between an msata ssd and a normal one? Was thinking of putting an msata ssd for the os and a normal hdd for the storage in a t430

>>57099517
But I have X201T with 9-cell battery right in my cupboard. And the tablet part is just regular Wacom digitizer.

>>57099402
If you're looking just for a laptop, then no. If you actually need a tablet and laptop, you might consider it. In my opinion it's too bulky and heavy to be a tablet and the construction makes it a little less attractive than regular X series - the hinge becomes loose and the lid lock wears out as well. It works fine for taking notes though.

I stopped using it in favour of samsung note pro and X201s. The note has enough battery life for the whole day and I take just a 4-cell battery for the X201s, which is enough for around 2 hours of lectures that I need it for. When I know I'm going to use the laptop for more than 2 hours I either take the 9-cell battery or a charger, but my bag gets a little heavy then.

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>>57100587
oh I forgot about the employee discount

>tfw finally changed my T420 display to 1600x900
It was piss easy too, the only real chore was to rearrange the speaker assembly cables.

I'm looking at buying an X220 and the sales listing says the panel is TFT, is that TN or IPS?

>>57100669
Sorry, I meant that the X220/30 don't support the 9 cell

Does the T420 support 1600 mhz? I cant find any clear information. I want to get 2 8 gb chips, and finding decent 1333 mhz chips is kinda hard.

>get SSD for x201
>Be retarded and didn't know you can replace the current hard drive and put the SSD in the caddy
>take it apart a few times
>finally figure it out
>space bar keeps popping off whenever I hit it
FUCKING WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE SOMETHING

Is 130 a good deal for an i5 ThinkPad x230 with everything intact?

>>57101527
4 gb Ram 320 hdd

>>57101243
yes t does, just upgrade BIOS to the oleh's one

Im waiting for my t440 to get here.

I literally never see it mentioned...420 430 450 460

Did I fuck up or something it looked cool?

>>57101558
>paying money for a literal meme

>>57100519

Did that yesterday. Win10Pro and 4GB. Memory is easy to get cheaper. I'm coming from a T420 with a shitty (old) battery and double the weight.

>>57099402
I use an X230T for drawing basic visual designs and it works well enough.

It doesn't have the precision of a proper Intuous or anything, but a multi-function laptop was what I was in the market for.

I just bought a thinkpad x230 i5-3210M 4GB 320HDD, battery, charger, for 140. Only issue is the CMOS battery. Did I mess up, or did I do good. First thinkpad, anything I should know?

>>57101243
>>57101544

my understanding is that older official bios versions like 1.37 and below will let ram run at 1600mhz as well. you can still use 1600mhz ram with a newer bios but it will be stuck at 1333mhz

>>57095544
>>57095612
Nope, on W7 Enterprise N.
Maybe are the nvidia drivers doing shit, dunno... or maybe the screen.
I seriously don't know how to know the root of the problem.

>>57101824
yea, its shit

>>57101918
It's shit? Fuck.

Now that I'm stuck with it, does the x230 use a regular CMOS battery?

>>57101949
It's probably fine, I just didn't think people actually fell for the thinkpad meme still.

> Can X201 run smoothly Team Fortress 2 ?

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Bought a Thinkpad 701c this morning. Pretty excited, my first 486 computer, should be good for the DOS stuff my Win98 machine shits itself on. Plus... meme keyboard.

I need a charger for it, though. Is a shitty chinese one off ebay okay, or should I get a better one (if so, link pls?).

Thinking about getting one for a T40 either way. Same voltage and connector, just higher amperage. That way if I ever get another system that uses the same charger, it'll work there too. Any potential problem with that?

>>57098323
I play EU4 on my X230 and it runs really well. I play on low graphics but I think you should be able to bump it up a bit.
Playing it on my X230 is way more comfy than on my desktop

>>57102011
Shit. I actually fell for a meme on here.
I have to get out of here.

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Hmmm

>>57100455
Not the anon you responded to but it looks like a T430, definitely a xx30 gen and it's too wide to be a X230 and not wide enough for a W530

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>>57096025
>7 row keyboard
>10 inch display
>true full-featured IBM era thinkpad

brother I would kill a man dead to get a modern s31

cherry trail, slice battery, thunderbolt... someone hold me

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Just bought this beauty over here:
Thinkpad Yoga 12 2nd Gen
- Intel i5-5300
- 8 GB Ram
- 256 GB SSD
- 1920x1080 mate finish touch display with stylus support
- Flawless running arch

Feels so good fellow /g/entlemen

whats the best 2nd hddy caddy to replace a cd drive on a thinkpad t420?

>>57103544
comfy/10

>>57103561
the cheapest one on amazon or ebay.

>>57093786
The X230t's nice to me. USB 3 is something I need because I interact with external drives all the time. The updated GPU as >>57093863 mentioned is kinda critical for using it with Photoshop/GIMP/Krita. Good GPU acceleration there is needed.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you're drawing on it. It's heavier and larger than the X230. The touch screen also not quite as precise as a normal Wacom tablet, and the thickness of the panel gives a bit of a disorienting effect when drawing, but if you want a combo tablet/laptop for doing sketches, it is pretty good.

>>57103544
How well does the touch screen work on Arch? Been wanting to get a Yoga with Arch and Plasma on it

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X260 with 1080p IPS screen with 1 TB SSD = happiness.

Today I bought an i7 2760qm for my t420. Hope I don't get a bent pin chip.

>upgraded t420 to 2720qm
>only 30% less score in benchmarks than the 6700hq
wew

For $200 I'll take it.

>>57103830
6770hq*

>>57103713
>X260
i'm about to get one from their e-shop
have you installed linux in yours yet? does it just werks?

>>57104016
Not anon you responded to but linux has had (and still has as far as i know) some problems with skylake CPU:s not being able to enter certain sleep modes affecting battery life

Best graphics card for a exp gdc beast egpu?

I was looking at some videos and the 750ti looks good, but would like to know about other's experiences.

>>57104092
Mid-range cards imo.

I'm using a 950.

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>>57104016
Use windows like a normal person dude

>>57104113
I am currently fishing for deals and I am seeing a refurbished 750ti for 99 usd

Did you get a similar deal for the 950? I fon't mind spending a bit more for something better

>>57104041
ahh thanks for the heads-up. this seems to be a recurring issue with linux integration.

>>57104120
>implying

>>57104145
Nah i just recycled the one from the desktop i had and sold after getting a thinkpad + docking station.

>>57104120
>use a substandard development environment because normalfaggots need muh gaymen

nothanks

>>57101916
Reinstaled drivers, the tearing is here again.
Seriously don't know what's going wrong, could you (>>57095612) share screenshots of the intel and nvidia global configs?

>>57104165
No problem, I haven't looked into it since sometime in June however so it might have been fixed since then

>>57098847
I have a t60, and have been using it as a daily driver for about 3 years now. Time has been remarkably kind to it.

Just accept you will be confined to MATE or XFCE if you want a comfortable experience.

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>>57104165
>>57104178
Linux is for servers and hipsters, why gimp yourself?

question to lenovo pro's:

i got an x220 and x230 - would it be possible to swap the OEM screen for a 1080p one or is there a hardware-limitation?

>>57095214

I'm not sure what you're asking about. To paint it, you just need to disassemble the entire thing, sand it, paint it, and reassemble it.

There's nothing special to it as the heat is expelled through the vents in the side. I would advise a complete disassembly so that you don't get any overstay on components, but I guess a good tape Jon would be the same.

I painted my Razor phone when I was a teenager, but I forgot to account for heat dissipation so I ended up burning my leg in the middle of civics class. The extra coats of paint made it harder for the heat to escape and I ended up cooking the phone.

>>57104227

X220 doesn't have a FHD+ kit yet, I'm not sure about the x230. The t420s has such a kit.

>>57104227
Since you're using both, which keyboard do you prefer if I may ask?

>>57104179
I'm using W7 Enterprise N just like you.

I don't have the NVS dGPU version since I'm using an eGPU but the Intel config i have is everything stock except the power settings where i turned off "Display refresh rate switching" and "Display power saving technology".

>>57104221
if you are serious, i work in the software and security field, and need to constantly use foss tools, compile shit, use a decent terminal and ssh clients. what i listed is simple babby stuff windows cannot offer. in 2016. hue.

>>57097040
Anyone? I just want an ultra dock or something that uses the ultra dock port on the bottom of my laptop for expansion but also has fans to help cool my laptop.

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>>57104221
>"gimp your self"
>setting active hours $CURRENT_YEAR
do you read what you type or do you just read it off the script rakesh?

>>57104290

No dock has a fan. You're going to have to be more specific as to the model though.

The docks raise the rear of the laptop enough that a fan really isn't necessary. If you wanted a fan just for the hell of it, there's nothing stopping you from getting a minidock and placing a regular USB laptop fan under the rest of the laptop.

>>57104335
I have a W530.

Does anyone know of a source for the FHD+ adapters for the t420s?

>>57104364

And you're having cooling problems? The w series has a pretty robust cooling system.

>>57104377
China

>>57104280
Okay, fixed it.
It was fucking Aero, I was using the classic theme, now I'm trying to find a way to keep the classic look and Aero.
I feel like a pajeet.

>>57104384
No, just figured I'd have some extra cooling when docked for longevity. Do you have any recommendations on which dock to get then even without the cooling pad.

>>57104266
i currently use the x230 most because i have my audio library on it and i use it to stream music to the HiFi
the X220 is from work which is my real love but i rarely use it so it doesn't wear off or get damaged

will use it as my main notebook in the future though with a nice linux running on it


i love the X220s keyboard layout and positioning but i gotta say after 4 years daily using it the X220: the X230 keyboard stroke is somehow better.
it feels more "solid" - you can really hit the keys hard and the feedback you get is for me personally better!

the X230 is compared to the X220 inferior in my opinion (not just hardware like cpu/gpu etc)
the X220 keyboard looks badass and the X230 keyboard looks too consumerish and these "isles" the keys form suck

>>57104227
The link that the original screen uses doesn't support resolutions that high so it would need to be done by splicing either the DP port or the lines in the docking port and possibly some bios modding as well

>>57104532
oh my, too bad - that would've been a dream come true if it's easier

>>57104016
Haven't put in linux, just sticking to Windows 10 until it gives me the middle finger.

Does everything I need plus good gaming if you aren't into the popular stuff.

Semi-pain in the butt to open the bottom of the unit, but easy to replace internal parts.

>>57105097
how much did you pay for the 260?

Is there a list somewhere with what ultra docks are compatible with what thinkpads?

>>57102397
So jelly

>>57090972
My X1 Carbon touch screen works perfectly with kubuntu

>>57104221
>linux is for servers and hipsters
That must be why Google developers use it?

>>57105823
>implying google employs anything but

>>57105891
>reddit gold user since 2014

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>>57105984
indeed!

So I was looking to get a laptop for my /fucko/ sentiment and other personal reasons since we all share a computer at my house......

.....I came across a T430 for $320 USD. Thinking of getting it, even if I'm new to this whole ThinkPad scene. Any Pros/Cons? What do you guys think?

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is a
>8GB RAM
>128GB SSD
>IPS screen
x230 for $400 too much in europe?

>>57106940
Can you talk him down?
Try to get him down to 300 or at worst 350
here in the US x230s go for $200-250

>>57107195
I can try, but the ad says "FINAL PRICE!"
There aren't many ads, and it is the only one with those specs.

Looking for recommendations.

I need something for basic web browsing but can handle a rather resource intensive OS (Qubes). I mainly need a high resolution screen in something newer than the **00 series. Battery life would be a huge plus as well. Does anyone have any ideas?

>>57107389
I'd still offer $300
if he doesn't take it, then it's not worth it.

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Dear /tpg/

A few weeks ago I got an x220.

I still use my desktop far more than I use the thinkpad, and I doubt that I could actually replace my desktop with a laptop, so I probably won't become one of those people.

That being said, it's easily the best laptop I've ever laid hands on. It's powerful enough for everything that I need, it's light and you can deploy just about everywhere. The trackpoint is amazing, and even as an absolute mechanical keyboard autist I can still tell you that the keyboard definitely deserves the praise it gets.

My only gripes with is the stock trackpoint cap. It's decent enough, but the convex trackpoint cap beats the shit out of everything, replacing that pretty much made it a 9.5/10 laptop.

I fell for yet another good meme.
Thanks /g/.

>>57106940
seems like too much to me, but I don't know the availability of cheap SSDs / 4GB RAM modules in your country.

What's a base model X230, a 120G Sandisk SSD, and a 4GB DDR3L module run in your area?

>tfw let full board Realforces go for 120USD when the market was flooded with them
Fuck

>tfw want to get an X230T, but unsure of the build quality
My X200 is built pretty well, but the singular, plastic hinge on the tablets worry me, but I'd actually use the tablet function often. And many of the other ThinkPad tablet laptops don't have a protruding battery, which I need for working while standing.

>>57105133
$950 with messenger bag with the Corporate Perks discount. 1080p screen, best i5 I can put in it, upgrade the ram to 8 GB, backlit keyboard.

>>57104243
nitrocaster

>>57107997
I have a X230T and the plastic hinge worries me a bit too. Other than that it is nicely built imo.

I haven't had it long so I can't say what the hinge fatigue will be like in 6 months, but it looks like an easy replace: https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x230t_x230it_hmm_en_0b48730_02.pdf

>>57108234
(cont) forgot to link the page, but 103

>>57107473
>>57107564
To be honest, I can't see any better offers in my country for x230/x220.

Best I can do is ask a friend who is currently in the US to bring me one (ship to him). Preferably one without charger/HDD. From a little search in ebay, the prices are not *that* different. The good offers are pretty damaged.

I'd really like to have that sooner though.

>>57108234
Oh alright, while you're here, have any comments about the X230T? I'm going to do the keyboard replacement, don't expect you to have done it, but it doesn't seem too difficult.

>>57108342
I gave some opinions on the touch screen at >>57103694

I am annoyed at Lenovo for their whitelisted wireless modules. I bought 802.11ac APs for a reason, but I can not be bothered to dump / modify the BIOS to remove it right now.

For the keyboard, I have not replaced it, but I have disassembled it. It is very easy to remove: Take off all the screws on the bottom labeled with the keyboard icon, then slide it forward slightly and lift. After, remove the i/o plug (it snaps in).

A good video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euyItfKnKNg although that model is the X220T.

>>57108423
Oh no, I get the normal keyboard replacement is easy, I don't even think that's changed on the newest of ThinkPads. I was rather vaguely referring to replacing the new keyboard with the old one, the similarities between the X220T and X230T make it easy to exchange their palmrests too. Does your's have a Bluetooth module?

>>57108439
>I was rather vaguely referring to replacing the new keyboard with the old one, the similarities between the X220T and X230T make it easy to exchange their palmrests too.

I'm not sure on that aspect. Sorry.

>Does your's have a Bluetooth module?

Yes, the Intel 6205 module has Bluetooth. This is the standard wireless module on all X230Ts as far as I know.

>>57108472
Alright, thanks. When I get it (a month or two from now probably) I'll give pictures of how it looks with the old keyboard.

An additional question for anyone else who knows, are X201/**10 keyboards compatible with **20's without any modifications? I'd prefer an X201 keyboard over an X220's, but I've only heard about **20 to **30 translation.

>>57108472
Nope, the 6205 does not have Bluetooth. My T430 has a 6205 and BT is provided by another module, a BCM20702 daughterboard below the touchpad.

>>57107536
How's the battery

>>57108552
Oh, good to know. Thanks.

What an odd configuration though. There are several Bluetooth modules within Intel's 6xxx wireless series.

>>57108598
The post above your's reminded me to ask, how's the battery life? You've a new battery or old, and how many cells?

>>57108598
That is the 6235

>>57108621
My battery was marked as refurbished. It's 6 cell, the highest for 67+.

On average I'll get ~4-5h of moderate use (drawing in Krita) out of it at max screen brightness. I haven't configured anything like powertop for a more optimal configuration though.

My 6 cell battery lasts like 2:30 hours on my T420.
It is worn out a lot, right?

>>57108890
My new 9cell battery lasts 2:45 hours haha, probably because the laptop is fron 2010. Use hwoinfo or some other tool to see how much wear it has

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>>57095214

> Im looking for a Bento Box, it cant be pinku (thats japanese for pink) or any girl color. It has to be of 2 or more kotoba (thats japanese for 2 compartments) and has be be chibi (small) sized. And has to be really kawaii (cute). Also It has to be about 10-20 bux. And you have to post pics of it first (i want to make shure it's kawaii (cute)). And it would be nice if it came with matching chopstick holder (WITH chopsticks). OH! and it CANNOT have any cartoon pictures, or be made out of plastic. It has to be made of ceramic, or something like that. Also it would be nice if it was made in japan. and not in china or corea (korea) or whatever. I have found a Bento Box similar to the one im describing in e-bay, but it was 1 kotoba, and i dont want my gohan (rice) to touch my other things (it can get wet and i would not like that, plus 2 compartments looks more kawaii)

>>57090696
Go to notebookcheck, Ars Technica, or Notebook Review and ask about business class hardware. Ars is a great place to get intelligent answers.

Are there any good Thinkpad related wallpapers?

>>57109106

Someone made dark wallpapers with exploded views of a few different Thinkpad models a while back, I'm sure someone has them and can post them.

>>57109106
If there aren't any good thinkpads what makes you think there will be a good thinkpad wallpaper haha

>>57109106
>>57109122
last pastebin in the OP

>>57091271
You need fast service but not necessarily wonderful hardware. Ask techs whose onsite service is best. Hardware is trivially expensive in your world but you need your data.

You should have spare notebooks onsite if your work is that critical. The loss of any one computer should not matter at all.

>>57095273
It's one screw, a cover, and there are plenty of videos and pics of how to do it.

If you never try, you will be helpless forever. There is no safety in helplessness.

>>57104290
What data proves your laptop requires additional cooling?

>>57104384
IDK about the w530, but I know that my w520's quadro 1000m throttles under high cpu and gpu load
My t430 also throttles, but only on the cpu which is a lot more painful.
Not sure why either throttles, both have been re thermal pasted.

>>57108569
Decent enough, typically get around three to four hours of battery life out of it with my regular use, wasn't expecting a whole lot from a used laptop battery.

Going to get some 9-cell off ebay in the future.

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Got my first ThinkPad last week for $150; a W530. It's way too fucking big, and way too fucking heavy.

I'm looking to get an X220 or X330. Are they worth it? I'm looking for something small and light, for comfy shitposting and the occasional Steam game on Loonix.

How common are IPS displays on X-series products? I can't stand the W530's TN angles.

>>57109663
The IPS screens aren't very common on x series before the x240.
and really you hate the w530s screen? did you get the 1366x768 screen or something?
My w520's 1600x900 screen is gorgeous for a TN screen, just as good of viewing angles as my 2012 macbook pro with the 1680x1050 matte screen.

>>57109725
I got a 15-inch 1920x1080 TN screen. Colors look great, but the angles are horrendous.

>>57109774
Really? mine aren't that bad
Really good for a TN.
maybe we need to swap thinkpads :^)

>>57109663

You in the United States? I'll be happy to take it off your hands for 200 if you're willing to sell it.

I have a thinkpad t420, and it started getting hot (70 degrees c or so), so I replaced the thermal paste (arctic silver ceramique 2), but it still will not cool down. I dusted the fan as well. How do I fix this?

>>57109885
>70 degrees c or so
Full load? That's pretty good.
Idle? rest in pizza

>>57109885
is that under some sort of a load?
if that's at idle then rip in rop heatsink.
But if you are actually using it with the cpu going to whatever clock speed it wants then that's pretty normal temps.
>>57109850
no, go away. I want it.

Any ThinkPads with a decent processor (i5-3x or better) easy to stick a dGPU in? Not only am I a hopeless manchild(I can let my toddler hog the TV or chase him around the house to keep him from an heroing), I also do tons of video editing for work, and use Moonlight to get into my system from my phone as needed, so I would need to be able to put at least a GTX-M of some sort in there without much issue. Just about every other aspect is highly negotiable, given chinkpads' relative modularity. The Yoga 14 looks okay if I can somehow fool GeForce Experience into thinking the 940m in there is Gamestream capable, but the keyboard is cancer compared to my wife's X61.

>>57110009
You do know that these are laptops right?
99.99999% of them have soldered in gpus.

>>57110038
Cramming something where it doesn't belong and bogarting another part's connection to solder it in can be done on some laptops. If not ThinkPads, then I suppose I'll just keep an old one around for road work.

>>57110009
Not that i know of, but doing an eGPU setup is very easy.

Bought an X220 without being influenced by /g/'s obsession with them and I love it.

Some questions:

My bottom left corner (where the card bay is, where your left wrist is) can be separated easily? Makes it feel cheap and it cannot "clip" back into place. Should i just superglue this?

The plastic in the top left corner of my screen is INCREDIBLY flimsy. Like I can wobble it by barely touching it. Other side is fine and firm. Do I super glue this too?

This is a stupid question too, but there are two drive bays in the X220 right? What are my options for adding a second drive?

Last thing, is it worth getting an IPS screen? The stock one annoys me but I can't tell if it is worth getting IPS. I only bought this as a quick fix following my old machine's death but now I'm in love with it.

Thanks

>>57110183
>My bottom left corner (where the card bay is, where your left wrist is) can be separated easily? Makes it feel cheap and it cannot "clip" back into place. Should i just superglue this?
the express card slot?
the flap is supposed to go down, and I would highly recommend not gluing that.
>The plastic in the top left corner of my screen is INCREDIBLY flimsy. Like I can wobble it by barely touching it. Other side is fine and firm. Do I super glue this too?
Like above the line? I've seen people say that it coming loose is a common thing, but taking it apart and putting it back together should fix it
>This is a stupid question too, but there are two drive bays in the X220 right? What are my options for adding a second drive?
Msata ssd where the wwan card would go
>Last thing, is it worth getting an IPS screen?
That's up to you, I had an x220 with the IPS screen and it had TERRIBLE temporary screen burn.

>>57110143
I've thought about that, but at that point, why not just tote around an old X61 or X220 and Moonlight it into the gaymen laptop I'm using right now? If I'm in spotty network conditions, or something happens to the laptop or power at home, suddenly I have to email my boss and say that I can't finish up a project until I get home that night, or I'm stuck playing Dank Souls on absolute minimum settings at 20fps. And while a portable power supply and eGPU could be built into a messenger bag, it would look funny at airports and make portability more of an issue than it should be.

>>57110183
The express card slot is pretty 'flexible' on my x220 as well

The corners of the screen on my x220 are fine, sounds like you may need to secure it somehow

The x220 only has 1 drive bay, I have seen people putting a mpci-e ssd in the WWAN slot
(but i don't remember if you need to do a bios mod for that, I had to to swap a better wifi card in)

The 1st Generation IPS screens have pretty bad ghosting issues (image retention) there is a version after that is better
but it still has ghosting issues. but other then that I love the IPS screen.

>>57098338
Reviewbrah?

>>57100769
Did you need an adapter?

>>57102397
Ahh shit, don't remind me. I have three of them I got cheap in the 90's, including one with the 586 upgrade.

When I stopped using them my young, dumb ass stored them in the attic without taking the batteries out. The only one that survived was the only cs in the group.