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What if there were more women in tech?

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(BBC article)
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>>"From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."

>>"If there were more women in tech, health apps wouldn't forget that women have periods"

>>"There would be more of a gender mix in AI voices"

>>"New laptops and phones aimed at women would focus on technical specifications and features rather than on being pink and DSLR cameras would have smaller, lighter bodies with buttons positioned for smaller hands."

>>"Kids would automatically ask their mums - rather than their dads - for help fixing, designing and building things."

>>"Artificial Intelligence learns like babies do: it picks up data and knowledge from the world around it. So if that world is all male, it's going to have a very limited sphere of knowledge indeed."

>>"And finally, women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices."

>>Twitter's goal for 2016 is for 16% of its tech staff and 35% of its overall staff to be female

>> Facebook revealed that 17% of its tech staff and 33% of its overall workforce were women

>> 19% of Google's tech staff and 31% of its overall staff were women in its latest figures from January 2016

>>At Microsoft, 16.9% of its tech staff and 26.8% were women in 2015

>>Apple says that 32% of its overall workforce is female and that 37% of the people it has hired in 2016 so far have been women

If ONLY there were MORE WOMEN in technology!
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i didnt read the article in that picture, or your quotes from it, OP
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>>57037992
>>>Apple says that 32% of its overall workforce is female and that 37% of the people it has hired in 2016 so far have been women
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>>57037992
>work in any one of those companies
>Only see 30ish% or whatever they claim women in HR and maybe IT and webdev sectors
>embedded is still 100% male
>design is still 90% male
>manufacturing is probably 100% male

Women just want easy jobs and claim they run the industry. Remember what happened to that women only company? Yeah I do, it went under
I don't have problem with women who diligently work, but with cunts who want to scream and scream and name a huge deal and whatever little they did
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>>57037992
It really doesn't matter. If a woman is hired because she's competent, then it makes no difference. She does her job and everybody else does theirs. No issue.

When women are hired because >muh diversity it's just as bad as employees who are "cultural hires".
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>Kleinman
Why?
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Question of the day is why the person who wrote this article isn't in tech instead of ""journalism"".

>I'M SPEAKING FOR ALL WOMEN EXCEPT MYSELF
>ALL WOMEN BUT ME LOVE TECH, BUT CAN'T GET INTO IT BECAUSE OF THE PATRIARCHY
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>>57037992
Apart from "kids would automatically ask their mums for help" which would be sexist(!!!) and maybe the first point, they're all valid points.

Artificially boosting the number of women in tech by lowering standards makes people think all women are shit at tech, and if it's done by choosing women over men, men might feel shafted. It's increasing naturally, just leave it alone or introduce more tech opportunities in education
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>>57038593
but she is in tech journalism anon :^)
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>>57037992
>women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure.
MY SIDES

>If there were more women in tech, health apps wouldn't forget that women have periods
WTF does that even mean? Why would a health app even need to take this into account?

>New laptops and phones aimed at women would focus on technical specifications and features rather than on being pink and DSLR cameras would have smaller, lighter bodies with buttons positioned for smaller hands.
I you don't want a pink phone then just don't buy one you dumb whore. If you cared about specs then you'd buy accordingly, but you're so dumb that you end up buying the latest meme phone anyway. Same with DSLRs, women just buy them for the meme factor, when they could just buy any compact camera that's more than good enough for taking selfies at the beach.

>Kids would automatically ask their mums - rather than their dads - for help fixing, designing and building things
Back when women stayed at home and raised their kids, they could spend days building stuff with them, all while dad was at work, and he never complained that "boohoo mommy gets all the fun of building stuff with kiddo"

>Artificial Intelligence learns like babies do: it picks up data and knowledge from the world around it. So if that world is all male, it's going to have a very limited sphere of knowledge indeed.
Implying women's Facebook posts don't get datamined.

>And finally, women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices
implying clothes are designed by tech companies


God, women are so dumb it makes me mad.
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>>57037992
Western women have the same options as men. It's not lack of incentive or freedom. They simply don't want to get in tech.

It's what >>57038350 said. Women need to want to get in tech in the first place. India and Middle East have an increasing number of women joining tech, but the main reason is a religious one: they can work from home, since they are oppressed as fuck and often can't leave the house to work.
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>>57039540
>women are so dumb it makes me mad.

They as a sex evolved with different strengths. Men's strengths include strength and intelligence. Women's strengths pretty much all are some variant of manipulation
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>>57039843
Is it just a meme or do most men lack the ability to think beyond themselves? Oh well.
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>>57039843
>They as a sex evolved with different strengths.

That's true, sometimes I have to wonder if it really is stupidity or they just do it for Machiavellian purposes.

My gf who studies CS (we're in the same class) once told me with a straight face that "women are discriminated against in CS". I was hoping it was a joke, but it wasn't. So I asked "how so? did you have to pretend to be male to study here? did they want to kick you out because you're a girl?" to which she answered the stupidest thing I've heard in my entire life:

>In CS, women are discriminated against because men don't help them.
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>>57037992
>hey anon, why program doesn't work? It says it wants some kind of DLL
>where did you place your program?
>on the desktop
>return your program back to its folder
>OH WOW IT WORKED

I'm not against competent women in tech, I appreciate them as any other competent specialist.
Surely, it's easier to whine MISOGYNIST MEN ARE OPPRESSING ME rather than actually get to learning.
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>>57037992
>What if
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>>57037992
Let's see how it goes.
It worked so well for Yahoo
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>>57039906

In modern society name three (3) reasons not to think only of yourself
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>>57041831
I also think of my family but I mostly agree, thinking and caring about anyone but your closest circle of people is stupid
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>>57037992
>"New laptops and phones aimed at women would focus on technical specifications
Why don't they just buy a laptop based on technical specifications then?

>and DSLR cameras would have smaller, lighter bodies with
Did they ever consider that it isn't possible?!!?!?!???

If they want small and interchangeable lenses.... MILCs exist for a reason

>>>"And finally, women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices."
not a bad business idea... maybe if there's demand you should create that product....
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>>57037992

>instead of a Penis, women possess an opening which is meant to be filled up by a Penis.
>this means that rather than 50/50, it's more like his excess is meant to fill her void
>a woman's brain is similarly equipped.

She has a hole in her head
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>>57037992
>women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."
Why does this sound like it's completely the opposite?
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>Neurosuggesting the best codemonkeys are not boys that dress like girls
>Neurosuggesting we can reduce the hormone budget by hiring girls in the first place
>my sides are in low orbit chummer
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>>57039998
Anon I think it's time to abort mission
Lord knows what else she's hiding
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>>57041868
pls don't remind me. NX1 was years ahead of its time. such a shame Samsung killed off their camera division.
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>>57037992
What size is female?
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>>57039451
tech journalism
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If there are less women qualified for tech jobs, then why are companies aiming for a 50/50 split? Like what?

Results in an overall weaker company workforce. Let competent femployees get jobs, don't hire them to fill some SJW diversity quota.
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>>57042802
They don't know, because they aren't crash testers.
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>>57037992
It depends, if they got there by working hard and studying because that's what they want to do, then probably not shit, just another day. If they got there because of the push to get women in tech then it will just fuck things up.
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>>57042840
>Reballing flip chip GPUs is BULLSHIT!
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>>57042739
Wait, if I dress like a girl will I be better at learning to program?
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>>"And finally, women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices."
JUST WEAT CARGO SHORTS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A MANCHILD NECKBEARDED LANDWHALE
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>>57038442
Because fuck you goyim your society is dead. We killed it before you woke up. Enjoy your mulatto grandkids. They'll be slaves to the chosen too.
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>>57037992
>>>"New laptops and phones aimed at women would focus on technical specifications and features rather than on being pink and DSLR cameras would have smaller, lighter bodies with buttons positioned for smaller hands."
"If women had better jobs they would be smarter"
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>>57037992
>women calm under pressure
Fucking uwotm8. It is inherently impossible that women will ever be calmer under pressure because they are emotionally not rationally driven and just to end this argument permanently; periods.

>health apps wouldn't forget that women have periods
I don't get this. Do they burn more calories when on their period or something?

>gender mix in AI voices
There already is. Also a female voice is more soothing, more people (male and female) are likely to pick it over the comparatively more abrasive male voice.

>new tech aimed at women should focus on specs and features
They do and guess what they still go for the fucking pink trash because gullible.

>kids automagically ask their mums about tech
I don't care who answers my question as long as I get a good explanation. Also gg increasing the domestic workload of a female, I thought that was one of the complaints about lack of women working in the first place.

>AI learns like babbies
Only it learns in a purely logical way so female arguments and knowledge would be generally dismissed over a male one. AI literally won't care as long as efficiency is maximised.

>decent pockets in women's clothes
This I really would like, I have to hold so much shit for my gf because anything that doesn't look like a wearable garbage bag has zero pockets or utility. Women buy it doe, men don't buy shit without pockets afaik so the trend never went that way.

>company stats
Idc just produce good results and everyone should be happy, whether a male or female did it.
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>>57043878
of course
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>if
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>>57039843
>complains about comment saying that women are manipulative
>uses manipulative phrasing with a question mark at the end

lol
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>>57037992
>at microsoft 16.9% of its tech staff and 26.8% were women in 2015
What does that even mean? She is giving two different percentages but only a subject for the first one. 27% of WHAT were women?

This is what wed get if more women were in tech.. more shit products that are broekn.
Any woman that SHOULD be in tech was allready in it before this sjw bullshit started up.

>twitters gail for 2016 is for 16% of its techstaff and 35% of its overall staff to be female
OK so they are just hiring new people or will they be firing males based on their gender just like yahoo did?
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>>57037992
>women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure.
how detached from reality do you have to be to even think of making a bullshit claim like that?
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propaganda, board rooms have prerequisites to include females in leadership positions
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>>57044889
That's really a problem with individuals, not the gender as a whole. But that's my whole gripe about this article and the "women can do gid 2". Some men are incompetent, some women are incompetent. Adjust accordingly.
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>>57044224
You forget about manga and anime.
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MARISSA ANN MAYER DID NOTHING WRONG!
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If there were more women in tech...
every 28 days computers would overheat and refuse to work.
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>>57045000

>That's really a problem with individuals, not the gender as a whole.

have you ever actually been on a date, worked with a woman who wasn't related, driven a car?

Honest question.
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>>57045123
the people of /g/ cannot be trusted to elect one anime without erupting into a shitstorm
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>>57045562
Has to be Naruto. Anything else is shit.
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>>57037992
>Twitter's goal for 2016 is for 16% of its tech staff and 35% of its overall staff to be female
> Facebook revealed that 17% of its tech staff and 33% of its overall workforce were women
> 19% of Google's tech staff and 31% of its overall staff were women in its latest figures from January 2016
>At Microsoft, 16.9% of its tech staff and 26.8% were women in 2015
>Apple says that 32% of its overall workforce is female and that 37% of the people it has hired in 2016 so far have been women

Wow, didn't know tech firms needed so many secretaries.
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>>57037992
Well, time to become a tranny
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>>57045717
They just expand HR departments
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>>57045717
Supply and demand. Those companies just decreased the bargaining power of a secretary giving head. Now instead of getting a better raise, they'll get a longer lunch break occasionally at best.
For a girl to really get ahead, theyll have to really show dedication.
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>>57037992
Why not make AI into better girls?
I dont mind this, if they want to be replaced so eagerly.
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>>57037992
>BBC
Stopped reading right there.
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>>57039659

Plz go, /pol/. Your "gender realism" retardation is a mirror image of SJW dogma, just in the other direction.
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>>57046552
go back to tumblr fagogt, he said nothing to do with gender or realism being the problem.

>>57039659
Womens problems are that they don't understand how the world works.
When taking college classes, they go for what sounds fun or what they think their current hobby is.
I knew a bitch one time that wanted to be a vet and she was taking computer programing (failed miserably) and astronomy classes.
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>>57046611

Go back to /pol/. It's called a containment board for a reason.
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>>57046715
A reason that you tumbler cancer made up.
If you dont like it here, go back to your gay cess pool of a site.
4chan will not change for you.
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I'd love for women to join, they just don't fucking want it.

Because they know it's hard work and they'd rather deal with their stupid shit. It's their choice. There are not enough because hard working women are fewer.

In CS the class is all males except for one girl. She understands shit, I admire her because she's still there but we do have gender quotas that give preference depending on how saturated a field is, and -still- we get nothing but guys. Blame the women that don't want to join.
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>>57046864
Things were getting serious with this girl I was talking to over the interbuts. Should have heard her reaction when I asked how she plans to support herself when she gets here, told her shed have to get a job and she just froze and like 3 full seconds later she was like "HUH!"
Pretty sure she thought she was just going to move here and lay around the house all day and eat off of the money I make.
Women piss me off so much, so few them are willing to carry their own weight in life.
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>>57039998
It's all good and well to call that stupid when you're able to get easy access to help from lecturers and tutors who are all male. It may well be the case that she cannot obtain that help as easily.
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>>57046853

Crying "Tumblr" doesn't change the fact that you're manipulated by SJWs. You oppose them so blindly that every time they turn left, you turn right out of spite. You have no control when you re like this, faggot.
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>>57037992
>Apple says that 32% of its overall workforce is female and that 37% of the people it has hired in 2016 so far have been women

Watch 98% be retail or HR
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>>57047015
You're so afraid of your boogeyman that you scream /pol/ random people.
He said if women wanted to be in tech, they'd be in tech. If you understand this concept then you're retarded.
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>>57047088

>afraid of /pol
>afraid of neckbeard NEET neonazis and shitposters

I may be pathetic enough to spend my free time arguing with someone on the Internet, but I'm not *that* pathetic.

Women avoided tech cause all the pop culture for tech in the 80's and 90's was solely aimed at guys. If all the pop culture showed women in tech instead, demographics would be very different.
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>>57047146
Tech pop culture in the 80s and 90s was aimed at boys because the girls didn't buy any of it.
This may come as a surprise to you, but companies sell stuff where they make money. They don't sell stuff to oppress people.
Its the same reason they don't make that many pink calculators, its just a specialty item.
You know why girls soap costs more? Because they buy it with all kinds of perfume in it, not because of some patriarchal boogeyman that is out to get more money from just them.
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>>57047146
>Women avoided tech cause all the pop culture for tech in the 80's and 90's was solely aimed at guys. If all the pop culture showed women in tech instead, demographics would be very different.
I'm not even sure how to express how dumb you are. Literal room temperature IQ.

And yet you likely think of yourself as part of some cognitive elite, lel
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>>57047146
Your assumption is stupid. There have been experiments done on monkeys which shows male monkeys picking up toy cars and female monkeys picking up toy babies. They don't have access to pop culture.
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>>57047210
Shit the last time I visited a cosmetics store I was baffled. There are more types of every kind of worthless, yet expensive thing you can find just to paint themselves. There's no computer stores like that. Shit I have to order everything online nowadays. And they still get 30 billion things to hide their imperfections.
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>>57037992
GTFO with all this Bullshit. Women aren't calmer under pressure in any situation
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>>57037992
>"LOOK AT WHAT I CAN DO IMA WOMAN"

Get Tired of these feminist SJWs and the Myth that is Rape Culture.
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>>57047210

Which is why over a third of all CS majors in the early-to-mid 80's were women.

>>57047242

> Comparing toy cars and dolls to programming

Try being less retarded.
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>>57047689
>ignoring 1/3 of your customers
>cs majors in the 80s = in jobs today
>implying 80s 90s pop culture is the reason women are not employed in tech today
What happened to the 1/3 anon?
You blew your self out on this one.
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>>57037992

I love how these internet news companies can play their audience for gentiles time and time again

This is commercialized trolling. They just want it to make you give it attention. That's all. When they wrote it, they knew everything that is being said in this thread.
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>>57047267
Thats another thing, women marketed this shit to other women, and now they are all on this "I need to express myself" trip. They expect to go out and buy stuff to fit their mood..
Guys dont get calculators colored in "raaa Im a MAAAAANNNN!!!", they come in casio grey or noncopyrightable black or whatever color the plastic just happens to come out of the extruder in.
Girls demand "le gurly pink" calculators then flip shit whenever its not available or cost a premium.
They stole the color pink, why cant they just steal the color black too and stop bitching.

What color is a wagon? radio flyer red. Yet, for some reason there is a market for selling a pink wagon at a hight price.. you know.. so they can spress themselves.


>tldr is its their own damn fault for being the most marketable sheep this planet has to offer.

also always relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoCQFJxeHr4
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>>57039998
>>In CS, women are discriminated against because men don't help them.
Because men are scared of dealing with women at this point in history. One false accusation of inappropriate behavior will ruin you for life.
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>>57047909

Decades of pop culture depicting tech as as the realm of loser geeky guys that are super awkward with women.
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>>57048190
You think we didn't suffer because girls wanted to talk shit and call us nerds?
You're a fucking idiot, and either a cuck or a feminist with a victim complex.
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> women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."

* change camera showing PLANET EARTH *
* THUNDERING LAUGHTER is heard echoing, even in the void of space *
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>>57048275

No shit we suffered. We suffered a fuckton. Which is why I don't want to repeat that retardation because of fear of SJWs taking over. SJWs don't represent women, senpai. They represent rich San Franciscans (mostly white guys, funny enough). Their politics can be separated from tech no longer being a sausage-fest.
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>>57048364
Then let them reap what they sowed.

Like other anon said, if they wanted to be in tech, they would be in tech.
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>>57048665

It was marketers that caused it with retarded-as-fuck marketing tactics. I see no reason to punish a third party.
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>>57048925
Then why do you support twitter and yahoo firing males just because they are males and the females decided to take feminist dance therapy, cosmetology, and theater?
They talk shit about the boys through childhood, and then those same boys get fired when they grow up because muh gender quota.

Also that 1/3 that was majoring in cs in the mid 80s should have been working in the 90s and 2000s and 2010s.. so why the fuck is there a women in tech issue now and not int 20 years when the retarded millennials are graduating?


Any woman that should be in stem is already in stem. You are just to retarded to see that.
I know a female stem professor that is fucking brilliant, do you think she got there by being smart or having it handed to her like how these companies are handing out stem positions based on gender now?

If you honestly think nintendo games is the reason girls choose stupid professions you are a lost cause.
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>>57049069

> Then why do you support twitter and yahoo firing males just because they are males and the females decided to take feminist dance therapy, cosmetology, and theater?
They talk shit about the boys through childhood, and then those same boys get fired when they grow up because muh gender quota.

If you're going to debate me, debate things I actually said.

I don't support gender quotas.

>Also that 1/3 that was majoring in cs in the mid 80s should have been working in the 90s and 2000s and 2010s.. so why the fuck is there a women in tech issue now and not int 20 years when the retarded millennials are graduating?

I'd love to know that myself. So much of this insanity seems predicated on a bunch of old stereotypes.

>If you honestly think nintendo games is the reason girls choose stupid professions you are a lost cause.

Again - if you're going to debate me, debate things I actually said.
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>>57037992
>>>"From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."
Do women actually believe this?
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>>57037992
There might not be many women in tech, but those who are count at least for two or three
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when will this meme fucking end

should I go to law school or something after i graduate?
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>>57048077
That's patently false. If you've ever taken any CS course, the few women that are in it get tons of help. In fact, they get so much help that they rarely have to do any actual work themselves.
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>>57049332
>If you're going to debate me, debate things I actually said.
>>57047210
>Tech pop culture in the 80s and 90s was aimed at boys because the girls didn't buy any of it.
>tech culture
basically nintendo.. wtf "tech culture" would you be trying to talk about? Its the whole "girls are not allowed in video games" argument all over again.
I know you're not talking about the dank make spaces of the 80s there.. (the same ones they infiltrated and ruined this decade btw.)


Also this is exactly the side you are fighting. How do you think these companies are going to get 35% gender ratios.
If it was just a small improvement it wouldn't be news. 35% is obviously a big number to them, which means a big change in demographics.
How do you think they are going to achieve this? Just higher literally thousands of new people that are female? Even if they did this, it would be not hiring people just because they are male.
What they are actually going to do is fire men and hire women.
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>>57049403
Hes right, men dont want to DEAL with women.
They are even doing shit like sending girls into a room alone with linus torvalds or someone, and several others to try and falsely accuse them of sexual assault.
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>>57048006
But pink is my favorite color anon
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>>57049537
What he means is they have a shit load of betas that help them.
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Lol all that sounds terrible

Why the fuck did there have to be such a massive push for girls in CS right now though??

Why couldn't they have water till I fucking graduated and got hired first
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>>57049423

> basically nintendo.. wtf "tech culture" would you be trying to talk about? Its the whole "girls are not allowed in video games" argument all over again.

No, I'm talking about years of ads explicitly calling computers "toys for boys" or something similar.

>Also this is exactly the side you are fighting. How do you think these companies are going to get 35% gender ratios.

If you're going to debate me, debate agains something I actually said.

I do not support gender (or ethnic or religious or ideological) quotas.
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Does the dumb bitch not understand that the only thing stopping women from entering tech is the fact that they don't want to?
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>>57049537
>like sending girls into a room alone with linus torvalds or someone

is this true?
I know things like this have happened before, but is this happening to people in the tech industry now because muh diversity?
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>>57049976

It's a rumor from a blog post written by Eric Raymond. Linus hasn't commented on it as far as I know.
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>>57049976
its more about muh rapeculture, but I recall reading about it and how he wouldnt do it or had proof or some shit that it didnt happen, got swept under the rug.
Im thinking it was linus, but it could have been someone else
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>>57037992
>women's cloths would get lots of decent-sized pockets
what
that's fashion, not tech
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>>57037992
Daily reminder to thank British posters for helping fund this article
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>>57047267
>There's no computer stores like that
Audiophile stores.
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>>57050038
As someone who wears womens clothes, I Can safely say that women can get pants that have pockets, but they aren't the cute ones that they like so they don't do it. What faggots. Dresses are master race anyway.
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>>57037992
The best part of all of this is that there is no stopping it. This kind of rhetoric supporting equality of outcome will continue to get more common.

If you go to any tech conference, "hacking" event or recreational IT club you'll notice that it's routinely 90%+ male. The demographics of people who actually strive to achieve in fields relating to tech are similar to this yet apparently because women make up 50% of the population they have to be 50% of the tech industry.

There are no barriers stopping any equally qualified woman from stealing a job from a male who's equal or could even outperform her. Major companies just love hiring for "diversity".

The people who control popular media are the women who studied liberal arts at college. These women flocked to these subjects and then write about how there aren't enough women in other subjects. I've never once heard a call to end the sex gap in boilermaking.
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>>57048077
Good fucking point.
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>>57049976
Lesson 1 never be alone with a girl in school. Just don't.
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I know the article starts with this argument so that it may seem contrary to resist the suggestions posited by the article BUT why would we want a woman in a cybersecurity position just because she keeps a cool face. For the most part, that's usually a sign that the person doesn't understand the extent of the problem or simply doesn't give a shit.
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>>57038167

How many are in the bullshit positions like hr and other shit.

There is a reason they shove women there its to get the numbers up while not fucking up the actual work.
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>>57050236
The best point.

20 year probation for being bad at sex or social constructs?
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>>57050352
And for you out of context she banshee bitch wheels, I'm meaning for an employee. Not a random rapist.
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>>57037992
>and stay calm under pressure."
Women fall down and start crying under pressure.
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Haha thanks I wear diapers to progrum.
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>>"And finally, women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices."

... So, what's that handbag you carry around for Zoe?
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>>57050341
Exactly, they don't feel pressure because they don't care, they don't care because they know they can't be failed or fired.
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>>57039998
>This much of a lack of critical thinking
Jesus Christ anon, does she have a monkey clapping cymbals together for a brain or something?
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>>57050609
I actually carry one of those shoulder bag things. Am I gay?
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>>57037992
>women's clothes would get lots of decent-sized pockets in which we could put all our devices
bags are great desu
only problem is they are easier to mug
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>>57039659
>Western women have the same options as men.
in theory

but parents, teachers, and society in general forces these stereotypes that teach girls they are not good at things
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>>57050764
I don't know of this is true or not but I will say this. We should, I think, encourage both boys and girls to try to do what they want. Even when we do I suspect there will always be more males in certain fields and more females in others but I have seen many fine female math and cs teachers in my life, and a fantastic male makeup artist. I'd like to encourage everyone to try to do their best so the world can be a more productive and joyful place.
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>>57050968

This should be common sense. Hell, I was fine with hipsters encouraging (their variety of) quirkiness until it they heaped on blackmail and McCarthyism.
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>>57046552
>>57050764
women are objectively unsuited to deal with technical jobs. thinking that's unfair or mean to say is like thinking it's unfair that small woodland creatures are bad at technical jobs too
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some very good points are being raised in this thread. let's do a poll to see /g/'s general consensus on the topic
http://www.strawpoll.me/11418288
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>>57051028
Thank you friend. I agree. So long as you aren't pushing shitty agendas you should be okay right?
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>>57051074

> objectively

You're trying too hard. 2/10 you got a response.
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>>57051215
"The average number of neocortical neurons was 19 billion in female brains and 23 billion in male brains."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons
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>>57051312
yeah but elephants have 3x more
what is your point

I would counter that having more neurons is harder for your brain to organize

it makes women like risc and men like cisc
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>>57051357
yes, women are like smaller, more stupid version of men. your point?
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>muh women in the workforce quota
For fucksake.

When will people learn and understand it's not about meeting a diversity quota, but who is best suited for a position. If you have two people going for a job and one got good grades whilst the other got okay, average grades, you'll pick the one who has the better grades because it shows that they're more determined to do better.

If a woman can obtain the same grades and same work ethic in terms of attitude and performance then by all means hire them. Don't fucking do it for the sake of saying I have women working for me. If you want that, become a pimp.
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>calm under pressure
First of all you guys all shouting "BUBUT WEMIN AINT CALM" you're all fucking retarded, acting like there aren't any calm women is sexist as fuck, you're all preschool level.
The comment itself is sexist towards men that's what you should be whining about.

On top of all that the bigger problem is since when do you have to stay calm under pressure in the fucking tech industry?
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>>57037992
1. False

2. Another excuse for being a fat lazy slob

3. No there wouldn't. If there were more make voices, feminazis would be throwing a fit on how the patriarchy is having tech voices as males to extend the male figure as more knowledgeable than females.

4. Laptops with colors are for some variety not for girls, and if girls cared about anything other than looks they wouldn't be going after Macs and Mac look alikes all the time. And why not buy a smaller camera rather than going for a huge camera you are physically incapable of lifting.

5. Most mother's are lazy pieces of shits that expect the husband to be in charge of any manual labor that doesn't involve cleaning, and cooking. The day a wife gets off her ass to replace the air conditioner's filter, or change a tire, or change a lightbulb then we'll talk about bullshit like this.

6. And if it goes with an all female world it'd have the IQ of a the average American voter that just got their Highschool GED

7. When women stop trying to flaunt their body because they're attention whores then maybe they'd be making those kinds of clothes for women

The same people that push the gender gap myth are pushing the women in stem myth. Fucking make it illegal for women to enter stem fields. Maybe then Ubisoft can actually publish software that isn't broken during its first year.
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>>57051703
:( anon you hurt my feelings, don't kick gays out of stem.
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Women Here.
Studying to get my Computer Science Degree
Only girl in my class currently
I know what I'm getting into it is a mans world doesn't bother me though. I generally hate all other women my age and stay away from them anyways.
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>>57051927
How do we really know you're an women?
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Well considering /g/ is mostly men I don't bother telling everyone I am a grill. No point.
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>>57051927
>>57051993
timestamp with tits
upload to imgur since this is blue board

i'll post my load for you in return
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>>57050105
Carrying a bag is way better than stuffing your pockets, more space AND it looks cute
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>>57052007
Wow I am really triggered right now anon thanks I cant wait to right a tumblr post about this.
go back to /b/ if you want bitches posting tits
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>>57050105
>as someone who wears womens clothes.

Stop being a faggot dude.
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>>57052056
Why?
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>women stay calm under pressure

WEW
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>>57052016
Am I really cute anon?
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>>57052156
Depends on how well your bag fits in with your clothing cut and colour scheme. Accessories on your bag is an easy way to get +cute points though
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>>57052179
I have more than one so I can color coordinate
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I beat DOOM tonight and was watching the names go by on the credits.

Probably a hundred names total and the only female name I saw was in HR.
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>>57052192
Oh also the only woman character in the entire game is a sickly anorexic hag that betrays humanity.
>>
Daily reminder that unless you've watched this, your opinion about these issues are completely worthless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJVJ5QRRUE
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I just don't like reverse discrimination. People should be chosen by capability, not because there is some minority quota.
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>>57052007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/b/

It's relevant to the conversation
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>>57053692
leftist retards don't give a shit about empirical science
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>>57039540
> why should health app even consider tracking menstruation cycles?
> god women are dumb
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>>57053692
I have seen it

While there might be a biological predetermination, it is not to say that environment is (still) not toxic in the sense of treating boys and girls differently, subconsciously
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>>57053801
>muh period
>patriarchal male pigs don't care about muh womyns health
http://www.helloclue.com/
https://itunes.apple.com/app/fertility-friend-mobile/id443919067?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tampon-minder/id581463154?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/period-tracker-deluxe/id289084315?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mypill-contraception-reminder/id386265329?mt=8
retard
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>>57053836
You seem to have missed the point.
I was making fun of people that can't possibly come up with a reason to include period cycles into health apps.
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>>57053817
Yes, but trying to go all out on this "let's compensate and manipulate girls who normally wouldn't want to do this into wanting to get into it" is complete bullshit, purely because, as the video shows, if there aren't girls into tech, it's because they don't want to.

If a girl wants to get into tech herself without being manipulated by feminists, then she should be welcome like every other man, and as long as she works the same, it would obviously be injust to forbid her from following her genuine passion.

Too bad feminists don't care about this, but they only want "more of us" in the tech field, just because they're somehow convinced it's an injustice that there aren't many women doing it.
It's all about the numbers, and it's completely retarded.
Pic related.

Also, there is undeniable evidence (plus the common sense of everyone who's not a total retard or brainwashed) saying that women not only aren't really interested in those things, but they're also not very good at them either (ofc there are exceptions though).
Both sexes have strengths and weaknesses.
Man are better at some things while women are better at others.
Tech is one of those things that men tend to be better at.

Also, there's the issue of women being drama queens and letting their emotions get in the way of the job, making them worse than an equally competent male counterpart, but that's another issue altogether.
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>>57053907
>Man are better at some things while women are better at others
women aren't actually better at anything and one day technology will obsolete the female sex altogether desu
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Group of guys working together:
>everything goes well
>there is structure and leadership between bros

Group of guy and a girl working together
>all the guys want to get in her pants
>the guys that are social awkward cant work well with her around
>guy talk has to be toned down around her

this is why it will never be as productive
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>work for a big tech giant
>see this diversity shit infestation
>plan my escape into start up land

If you are planning to leaving a company, make hiring suggestions of females and affirmative action hires. They will do real damage to the company, who is now your competitor.
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>>57053907
Is that caused by lack of stimuli from the environment and getting reinforced stuff though?

It might be too late even when you are in primary school
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>>57053988
Watch the video linked above.
External stimuli are just a small part of it. It's mostly innate.
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>>57053964
So what you're saying is, men need to be trained better?
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>>57054020
Maybe men and women are hardwired to think behave in a way that make it hard to work together.
There's a reason why all throughout history, virtually every civilization had men and women in separate roles.

That Anon forgot to mention that women behave differently when in presence of a man as well.
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>>57053997
I have seen the babbytoy part

that is not to say that in this extremely gendered society where it permeates everything through media and subconsciously through parents and teachers, there is an undeniable amount of conditioning stimuli no matter how much people claim to do equal treatment
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>>57053987

is it google? i work there too
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>>57054050
Here is the massive contradiction in your whole nonsensical world view.

Where does the "conditioning stimuli" come from? How does an "extremely gendered society" exist in the first place?
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>>57054050
Did you watch the entire video?
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>>57054067
the entire series

>>57054063
it might sound like a meme, but I believe it is like that because of our past and capitalism
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>>57054063
This.
Also note how it's not just western society. It's basically all of humanity, since the dawn of time.

You really must be a creationist to believe that men and women didn't evolve any major difference in their brain.
All animals did, but for some reason humans didn't. Human males and females are perfectly equal and evidence of the contrary is just a misconception.
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>>57054081
>the entire series
then your argument is negated by the evidence that has been shown to you, that you decided to ignore because you have personal convinctions that obfuscate your ability to think objectively.
Literally as pathetic as the people at the end of the video that refuse to believe evidence, because for them, believing their fairytales is the right thing to do.

>because of our past and capitalism
pic related.
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>>57054120
Fuck didn't upload the picture.
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>>57054051
The day I got the job was the best day of my life, better than getting into college.

Now I can't fucking stand to go to work.

Food is nice though.
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>>57054127
>Now I can't fucking stand to go to work.
Just because of the diversity efforts? I still really like my job

>being paid a butt fuck
>job is to program all day
>free food and drinks 24/7
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>>57054189
It wears off after a few years.

Befriend some old timers. You will get honest opinions from people who have seen other companies atrophy and collapse (especially those around from the dot com boom). It's not just the diversity nonsense.

The perks are great though, I will miss them.
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>>57041831
1. Do you want to live in a world where people help each other? I do, and somebody has to start.
2. Not thinking about yourself means people will treat you better on the long run.
3. Making others happy makes yourself happy.

So basically if you want to only think about yourself, you should stop thinking about yourself
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>>57037992
>>>"From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."
stop stereotyping women
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>>57039998
I hope you walked away slowly, laughing
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>>57039998
i mean, i feel her. i'm a guy, but men don't help me. i have to look shit up on the internet, or buy and read books
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>>57037992
>women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure
Yeah no, the complete opposite.
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>>57045380
Did anybody say win 10?
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>>57046942
Imagine how much a whore would cost if she were at yours all day. A gf is slightly cheaper than that - but will be more annoying too.

But mine just did my tax return, so I ain't complaining
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>>57039998
I can see how that might be. I've seen plenty of autists in CS who would answer just about any question regarding course content, only for him to totally freeze up when a girl next to him asks him for help.
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>>57037992
Perhaps fewer women aspire to be in the industry than men do?
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>>57037992
Why tech in particular?
Why not brain surgery or finance?
Why aren't men complaining about the lack of males in female-dominated fields?
>>
what do you call biological women on /g/ anyways?
/g/entoowoman? /g/irl?
>>
>From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure

This is saying nothing and lying at the same time
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>>57054359
>Seeking Arrangements

Some autist did an audit, it came to about $70/hr, all included (not per sex act).
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same reason, different workplace
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if the female voter has taught me anything, women shouldn't be in any roles of power
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>Like 3 girls in CS at my college
>One of them is somewhat cute
>She is retarded and can't do anything on her own
>Has some special womyn in tech scholarship that let's her go to school for free
>Has 3-4 beta orbiters around her at all times
>They help her with all her assignments (to the point of doing them for her)
>Got an internship at oner of the big 4 tech companies over the summer
>Probably got a full-time offer for all I know

I literally wish I was born with a vagina
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>>57043949
>Aimed at women
What the fuck do they even mean by this? If they want a device with decent specs, they can get a device with decent specs, it's NOT that difficult.
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>"Artificial Intelligence learns like babies do: it picks up data and knowledge from the world around it. So if that world is all male, it's going to have a very limited sphere of knowledge indeed."

THATS - NOT - HOW - IT - WORKS

THATS NOT AT ALL HOW IT WORKS

I AM TRIGGERED
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>>57056627
Yes it is you stupid shit. I have degree in ML and that's exactly how deep learning works.
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>>57056647
Legitimately cant tell if bait or not, but not, thats not how AI works
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>>57037992
Fucking SJW(j)ews
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>>57045874
>make AI into better girls

Random generator?
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>>57037992
Why the FUCK would a company care about the gender they hired as long as they performed well in the job? This goes for tech companies, manufacturing, hell even fast food. If you can do your job better than the other candidates for the position, you should (and probably will) get the job. There is no patriarchy oppressing women in any industry, none. A hiring manager at a company that hires a less-competent male over a female is probably going to end up without a job.

Literally the only reason women aren't involved more in technology is because they couldn't give a fuck about it when they're interested in other less-analytical fields. The biggest STEM college in my state has a 20:1 male-to-female ratio, bot because they don't enroll females, but because women don't fucking apply there because they would rather go to the biggest party college in my state where the ratio is close to 1:1.

Saying that more women need to be in tech is like saying we heterosexual men in the hair-design industry. It's unappealing to them so it won't happen.
> gay men dress hair better than women anyway eggs dee
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>>57037992
>"From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."
>lying
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>"From a cybersecurity standpoint, women are inquisitive and stay calm under pressure."
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>>57047146
Are you fucking retarded? Just because someone points and says no doesn't mean people will that that seriously. You might as well go full /pol/ and say that the jews didn't want women in tech at that time if you ascribe that much power to the media.
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>>57050038
Depends on what the clothing is made out of and if it has function that isn't superfluous design. Clothing can be tech but not all tech can be clothing.
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>>57050764
Not necessarily stereotypes; women are proven to be worse at spacial reasoning.
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>>57057700
>Why the FUCK would a company care about the gender they hired as long as they performed well in the job?
Even if a woman is as competent as a man, it's still preferable to hire the man for reasons beyond competence.
Pic related.
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>>57058261
i am thoroughly disappointed in my gender
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>>57058261
You have a point and women do passively create tension in the work area via gossip and rumor spreading. They're not the greatest, however if you have competent women that are dedicated to their job (which are uncommon) they can perform as well as or even outperform men in the same fields. I work with some women that are great workers, but do get pissy and toxic to the environment. Would it be better if it were men? I dunno, maybe. Probably, actually. Shit might actually get done, then...
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>>57058720
Absolutely.
As I said in a post above, there are valuable female workers that can even blow any male colleague out of the water in terms of dependability, seriousness, work ethic, etc. but they're certainly atypical.

Here's a blogpost on the same lines as the story in that picture:
https://clarissasblog.com/2014/05/14/i-dont-want-to-hire-women/
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>>57038350
They aren't hired because of >muh diversity, they're hired to help HR infiltrate organizations with SJWs.
>>
let's be honest for a second
today's feminist wave in tech is created by lonely men who just want more women in the workplace in order to meet more educated females
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>>57059226
It's certainly perpetuated by numales, but it definitely wasn't created by them.
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>>57059239
>implying you don't want a bossy co-worker with an appreciable bust and dressed in tight office clothes to face sit you
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>>57059274
>mfw your boss will never actually do that to you, so you get all the drawbacks and none of the benefits, except in your fantasies.
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>>57037992
I have no problem with women in tech, or really any field. Their vagina has little to no impact on my overall opinion of them. I'm more concerned about their ability to do the job just as good as, or better than, their male coworkers. I'm also concerned about the beliefs they hold. I don't want some feminist pig who can't code tossing all her work onto my lap while simultaneously creating a toxic work environment by constantly being triggered and offended. I'll start from the top with each point.

>women stay calm under pressure
Triggered feminist crybabies certainly do not. Most normal women do. I would never hire the cunt who wrote that.

>health apps wouldn't forget about periods
Health apps are used by very few people. I've literally never used one. Any missing or broken features are due to the fact that nobody gives a flying fuck about health apps.

>more of a gender mix in AI voices
What does this even mean? I tend to find all AI voices annoying as fuck. Siri also comes in a male and female voices now.
>>
>>57053987

> Wanting work to remain a sausage fest.

Nothing is wrong with hiring smart women. Diversity hires are retarded because there is no requirement they can do a good job. But a non-diversity hire can still be a woman - just one that can code well. Same requirement for guys **and delicious, delicious traps**.

>>57054242

Can you elaborate? I'd love to hear more on wtf happened to Google. Especially with why they abandoned their fight against the MAFIAA and, separately, gave up much of their archivist efforts around 2010.

I'd understand if you don't have that info. I'd like to know more in general on why things went to shit.
>>
Cont. (fucking j̶e̶w̶ jap moot put up a higher time limit between posts)
>>57059634
>womens tech products would focus less on being pink (blah blah more horse shit)
I didn't know there were any tech products specifically designed for women. All of them seem to be pretty gender neutral. If women cared about specifications they wouldn't be shopping for colors anyway and this wouldn't be an issue. Also the "muh smaller hands" thing is a non-issue. You can buy smaller phones, tablets, laptops, etc. They're not all one size.

>kids run to mommy for tech support
I don't know about that cunt but both of my parents were old farts. They were so behind on everything that I would never ask them for help with any technology newer than 10 years old. Maybe she should focus on teaching her kids to fucking Google thier problems first.

>muh AI again
>needs to know lady stuff
Once again, it's not a gendered issue. If the AI learns like a baby, then it will learn from everyone it comes in contact with, not just males. The asshole who wrote the article is clearly tech illiterate, since AI wouldn't just get turned on and start shitting and crying.

>muh clothes
Talk to the fashion industry. You're barking up the wrong damn tree.

>muh numbers hue hue
I don't believe in diversity hires. If women want tech jobs, they can work for them like everyone else.

TLDR I hate special snowflakes and would not hire that bitch.
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>women stay calm under preassure
Toppest of the keks
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>>57039998

I find it hard to believe that she didn't let slip something like this before. Having a retarded femeshit GF is a ticking timebomb. This is why I cease communication with any new girl I meet the second she hints at being some retarded Tumblrina. How on earth are you still in a relationship with her?
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>>57045662
kys

NGE or die
>>
I don't get this. Wouldn't companies want to get the best worker for their dollar?
I used to be a public accountant many years ago. We had a few women in our office and I worked with a few who came from other cities. For the most part the woman and us men stuck together. We were different and everyone understood that. We all still joked around with each other, had respect, ect.
Fast forward to my last years working there. Women had significant presence in office. Young women were moving up to higher positions. More HR complaints (actually in all my years working this was never a big issue until recent times). Breaks got more strict because three women would talk for so long (somehow a couple of male new hires for the blame). Time to complete jobs went up, harder to discipline workers (having a strict talk with new hires was kinda fun)
The jobs we took had more females working, they would make it awkward when i would pressure them for more information. Everything was getting out of hand. All of the "good" women working seemed to get overshadowed.
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>>57037992
Women should bitch less and go to stem fields more. My mum is a programmer, and you would never see her talking about feminism. She actually said she thinks they're doing it wrong. She does say shes a programmer, but she works at IBM now so she can't be that bad.
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>>57060315
If you have start up with females early on, they will fuck up. You may have a shot if they are very Asian.

A former startup founder (not a VC) would always recommend female employees for his friends startups. He did this because he knew the company would implode and all the real talent would be available.
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>>57037992
>stay calm under pressure
What a load of shit.
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>>57037992

This is all crap. My mother was OG programmer back in the day and didn't need fucking affirmative action to get her there. Also she constantly berates her female colleagues because they had no desire to succeed, but rather were content in their job punching cards. Fucking cuck media
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