/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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First for the T510. GOAT

T430 checking in

420 checking in

Fourth for T520, X220, and T43.

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R61i

>>57036446
>i
What did he mean by this?

Is 400 canuck bucks for a refurbished X220 with 8gb ram and 128gb ssd a good deal or ripoff?

>>57036691
monopoly money has no real-world value

My wifi is soooo slow on linux. Any ideas?

X230T here. Shit's served me damn well considering what I've put it through.

How's the P50s?

Can a T420 run Diablo 3?

sup dudes, maybe it aint the best thread to ask bu still, besides thinkpads, what other models of bussiness laptops would you recommend? (looking at some HPs and Dells)

>>57036951
I really like the look of the Latitude E6400/E6410. I'd own one if I didn't already have Thinkpads that met my every need.

>>57036594
the model is literally called R61i for some reason

>be me
>5 minutes ago on my x200 tablet (2008)
>hear a strange clicking noise
>browser freezes all of the sudden
>can't close window
>can't open terminal
>can't do anything so shut it down manually
>try to boot it back up
>click click click click .....
>"ERROR: HARDDRIVE INITIALIZATION ERROR"
>fuck.jpg

I though thinkpads were supposed to be good?

>>57037109
they are, just get a good ssd and you're set

>>57037109
>ancient HDD kicks it after 8+ years of service
>it's the Thinkpad's fault or even a fault at all when laptop HDDs often die before they even hit the 5 year mark

>>57037155
no I was only memeing. I already miss my thinkpad. Am typing from my 2013 XPS15 now and it's not comfy at all. not to mention win7 and no linux

>>57037122
I may just do that...
also, typically, would I be able to recover the data from the hdd without a service?

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post x220t pics

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X31 I got for $20

Running awesome wm/arch

>>57036861
Let's pretend that never happened

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>>57036869
>>57037399

>>57037411
Anon pls this is like looking at pictures of deep fried kittens or some shit

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>>57037434
>>57037411
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT THOSE GOOKS DID TO US, SON
YOU CAN NOT FORGET

>>57037212

Pretty much impossible to say if you can recover data by yourself

Worth a try but you should pay to get it recovered if you have important stuff on it

>>57037451
>rounded corners

Just fem my shit up

>>57037411

I can see how retarded this is, but NOTHING is more retarded than having those fucking rubber feet on the palm rests, what the actual holy FUCK were they thinking? Did anyone even use this while developing it?

>>57037212
Depends on if the motor destroyed the platters when it died

The click click click is typical of a motor failure. What happens is the head is unable to seek because something has failed.

If you're a ballsy man you can open up the HDD and flick the head back into place. This will permanently contaminate the internals of the HDD but it might be enough to read some data off it.

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>>57037495
>>57037505
>>57037451
They just keep shitting up the brand until you won't be able to tell a Thinkpad apart from a Walmart display unit

>>57036194
those speakers are yuge

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post thinkpad memes

>>57037557
Accept that thinkpads are dead and if you want a "modern" laptop you will need to accept a dell xps.

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>>57037263
quick update

>>57037626
some pretty ancient specs desu. what are you going to use it for besides shitposting on /g/?

So my lap has no express card slots but it has a free mini pciexpress port that was unused but wwan ready.

Would the beast gpu thing work on it? I need to give this 6 year old laptop new life

>>57037650
light web browsing and taking notes in class

muh 3.5lbs

>>57037733
That garbage is actually lightweight?

>>57037064
Yes, I really meant to ask what Lenovo meant with this "i." And no I'm not googling because that isn't comfy.

>>57037680
i don't see why not as long as you get the mini pcie version.

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>>57037805
the x40 I believe is way lighter even, I think its 2.7lbs

>>57037805
It's lighter than an x220

>>57037805
Remember, the 4:3 X series laptops are actually less wide than the 16:9 or 16:10 ones are, so it makes sense

T510

Is this worth it?
https://world.taobao.com/item/43779473864.htm?fromSite=main&spm=2013.1.w4004-9978574182.6.OVU36K

Any experiences with it?

>>57036989
have two of these sweet lil fuckers

6400 and a 4300, both running elementary and win7 but mostly the former.

stripped of all stickers and stuff, nice black minimalist lappies

is there a size difference between the x61 and the x61 tablet version?

What should I shoot for when buying a T240, price range

>>57038955
Tablet versions are always thicker and heavier.

I'm really on the fence of T420 and X220. Help me decide pls

>>57039166
i was just wondering about length and width since the bezel on the tablet version seems a lot larger but the screens are the same size

>>57039171
What has better battery?

>>57039171
I'd say T420 because of the upgradeable CPU, better resolution and running three drives for multi drive drifting.

But you ain't me so maybe you'd rather have portability and/or the IPS screen so whatever.

>>57039242
X220.

>>57036929
t410 can


someone said in the last thread, that 200euro for a used x230 is good price in europe , rait ? Where should I look for, ebay.de and the local alternative to CL? What would the price without ram and hdd be ? I can transfer those from my t410.

>>57039276
Can x220 hold more than 1 drive?

>>57039385
Yes as long as you use an mSATA SSD as main drive, then you can use the main drive slot as secondary drive.

Thinking of selling my Toshiba Portege R700-S1310 for a x220 with a 2520M. I can do it without paying any money out of pocket. Thoughts?

>>57039478
yes

Replaced my aging T61 with a Precision I bought off ebay, coming tomorrow.

-3840QM
-32GB DDR3
-K1000M

For $470, how'd I do guys?

Tfw your sticker arrives before your dankpad

is the T420s better then the T420?

>>57040576
i think not - more thin and compact but worse cooling

>>57040576
skip the 420 and get a 430

>>57036749

I have an unstable wifi using linux. But it is only unstable at work, not at my place. I guess is more related to the internet than the controllers

Can the X220/X230 use those extended battery thingies? If not, how hard is it to replace the battery on them if I end up buying one?

So, I bought a T430. The fan is always 3500 rpm or above. I was suggested by /g/ to clean the thermal paste/apply thermal paste. But, lenovo support says "it's a bios problem, update bios."

Question: has anyone updated the bios running linux on a T430?, will it erase my old bootloader?

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I'm in the club.. As soon as the seller finally ships the thing

is the x-series comfortable to let's say read/edit two documents side by side ?

Why do some X200s/X201s panel bezels look different? My new LCD is a lot prettier, but I'm confused as to why they have two different molds for the plastic, which seem to be on "s" or regular models with no rhyme or reason.

>>57037263
That's a hell of a machine compared to my previous R40. I had to use that brick of shit as my main computer with FreeBSD 9.x from 2013 to 2014. In 2014 I got the X201 and later a bunch of other thinkpads nobody cares to hear.
I had to use BSD because Linux's driver for the Radeon 7000 sucked so hard that the machine would not wake from suspension correctly. As if power saving was possible to begin with.

X220 with i5 or i7? Battery? Noise?

What should I do with my $10 R51 when it arrives?

>>57042759
Whoops, meant R52.

>>57039392
You can use them in any order, mSATA need not be the boot drive.

>>57042422
Not really, but it's do-able.

>>57042685
i7 if you want USB3, noise and battery consumption are going to be essentially the same between the i5 and i7.

>>57039554
Pretty good, precisions are comfy machines

what should i do with a t42

>>57042809
only i7 has usb 3 ??

>>57042925

Out of the box, yes.
You can fix that with a cheap express card though.

>>57042933
Not nearly as fast as native, and the expresscard adapters get hot as fuck.

>>57042979

It's still faster than USB3 though...

>>57037109
I remember playing a game of Starcraft II on my T400 back in the day, I got mad at something and slammed down on the computer with my fist. Next thing I know everything starts getting real slow and the computer begins locking up. On reboot, I had the same error as you.

Unlike you though, I backed my shit up weekly so I only lost 2 days of notes from class. Best of all I just RMA'd the hard drive to Western Digital and swapped in the original 160GB drive for a bit. But eventually I bought an SSD after the new WD drive started going bad.

>>57042979
I am so sick and tired of this meme. Yes, the speeds are a bit slower than native, but Expresscard adapters do NOT get hot as fuck as long as you do NOT buy the cheap chink ones. That being said, for the price of a good one, you could just upgrade to an i7 unit.

>>57043385
I own a decent one, it still gets hot as fuck.

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What popular games can I play comfortably on my x230?

E460 reporting in
>16GB RAM
>SSD
Better than my desktop.

>>57043466
super mario bros

>>57043466
Civilization V, Civilization Beyond Earth.

>look for bay HDD adapters
>CD/DVD/RW logos and fake button on the otuside bezel
>the actual drive my thinkpad came with doesn't even have the logos on it
What is this bullshit?

>>57043617
The official ones are clean of any external markings.

>>57043466

ps1, saturn and below

>>57042370
i5 is better value for money desu

>>57043797
I personally got the i7-2640M because muh native USB3 and muh few hundred additional megahertz.

>>57043466
>Strategy games
Starcraft 2, League of Legends, Path of Exile.
>Autism games
Space Station 13, Minecraft.

It can also run Team Fortress 2 if you turn the graphics down.

>>57043836
Remember the good old days when you could run TF2 on a T60p without too much trouble?

Now it seems like everything short of an Ivy Bridge processor is not enough. Fucking bloat creep.

>>57043895
The same happened with csgo.

>>57043797
>but my ghz
My budget was $200 and I'm not a patient guy... Basically bid on the first one I found to my liking. I'll be adding a m2 ssd and a larger hdd soon after receiving it.
Before that, I'll be putting Ubuntu or Linux Mint haven't decided yet.
It'll be my first Linux distro / system
24h since payment and still no movement from seller

>>57044226
Ubuntu

What OS do you guys have on your Thinkpad?
I'm thinking about trying arch with the i3 windows manager.

>>57044344
>What OS do you guys have on your Thinkpad?
Win7.

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Man, I think the charger jack on my 420 is busted. It only charges at very specific positions. I make a wrong move and it stops charging or flickers on and off. Don't really feel like taking the whole thing apart to fix it. Maybe I'll sell this one to someone who doesn't mind tinkering with it and get a new one with an SSD

>>57044344

gentoo is the only answer

I can fix that.

I'll take it if you don't mind sending it abroad.

>>57044344
X220
Win 7 + Ubuntu

>>57044419
meant for >>57044392

Is there some ultrabay battery for the T530, or can I only switch out the DVD RW drive for another HDD?

>>57044623
You can use an empty HDD caddy as a small drawer to store adapters or hide things :^)

>>57044873
Autism. Hide what?

Is an x200s for about 80 euro worth anything anymore, or should I really look into getting a newer version?

I know all of you praise the C2D here on /g/ pretty often, but is it worth it buying a couple of T400 s (s as in plural, not the slim version) , one as a beater laptop, one to salvage parts for the other if needed?

Money isn't an issue, I guess what I am trying to ask is - do you guys still have smooth usage on a T400 or other system with the core 2 duo? If all I plan on doing is browsing the web, watching youtube, and reading/viewing files from physical storage, it doesn't matter right?

I was able to give up my video game addiction long ago now so its no longer an issue that I can't play games on it

>>57044891
your dick
drug tablets
a really thin USB if possible?

>>57044932
>hiding mass storage in empty HDD drive instead of just having a fucking HDD

>>57044921
Yeah, should be good enough for all that. I assume you will be using a lightweight distro.

Where do you guys get your drivers?

The lenovo website appears to be unmaintained as fuck with outdated drivers for my X201.

Say you install a frwag W7, what's a list of drivers you go for straight away?

>>57044946
>hide usb with porn
>hide porn on storage that is actively being accessed

>mom walks in
>your dick is out
>you fall on the floor to walk the dinosaur to cover your shame
>hit dick first
>penile fracture

>>57044985
>hiding porn
>living with family

>>57044977
I get my drivers from the Linux kernel :^)

>>57044961
I don't know. I am a linux noob, and when I initially installed Lubuntu on my thinkpad I had issues with power management and suspend not working, even after installing third party drivers from a PPA everyone recommended

So I'm currently running Ubuntu 64-bit 16.04 on my T430 and I love it

thing is, I didn't know about the battery DRM before and this used 6 cell is down to about an hour per full charge, can barely use the damn thing now. I have to have it plugged in all the time

>>57045016
Damn. You run a test on the battery to try and find the actual capacity? Also, might wanna use the tlp package. Also, you could always install regular ubuntu and just manually install the LXDE or whatever desktop environment, that way you get the sweet sweet Ubuntu packaged drivers.

>>57045041
Oh I get perfect functionality with stock Ubuntu now, even the FN buttons worked to my surprise

its just the shitty battery capacity - there is no way around it. I'll have to buy a new one.

what I hate though is that the DRM is there to begin with. is there even a way to bypass it?

>>57045083
Yeah, you probably need a new battery.

Sorry mate, I have no experience with the DRM for that battery. I would just use some Google-fu and look for some hack, if there is one. Someone else in this thread might have experience with it.

>>57044344
Windows 7 on my W520 (main workstation), Ubuntu on my T400 (travel computer). I use them both about equally.

>>57044921
It really depends. Windows is a total fucking pig, and my W520 felt consistently and frustratingly slower than my T400 with Linux, even when they were both running off hard drives. So if you plan to run Win 7 off a T400, logic dictates that the Core 2 processor will cause you some frustration. With Linux, I can say it is more than adequate, especially once you get an SSD. Ubuntu 14.04 is absolutely fine, no lightweight distro needed.

Is it worth the extra effort to track down a x220/230 with an IPS panel?

>>57045481
depends
do you want to see what the screen shows, or not?

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My T430 (i7) comes this Friday. I am very excited since this is my first Thinkpad I have ever owned.

It not being in the reccomended models list is probably a bad sign, but is the X131e any good at all?

The msata port for ssd of thr t430 is sata 3?

>>57043822

Muh sanic

>>57045550
Welcome to the club, bro.

So, my x220 just arrived. Very clean, nothing broken. Win 7 with SP1 and Lenovo's shitty additions. Battery capacity is apparently at 94 Wh, that sounds pretty damn good to me.

No dead pixels, which is huge. Case is flawless, too. A few scratches on the side, a bit dust here, otherwise great. No complaints on my part.

So, what should I check/do first? What's the best way to extract the Windows key for future use - although I'll be switching to Linux.

>>57045692
If you have an air can, blow out whatever dust is in the fan

I am looking for a cheap PC to bring to class without fearing about it being damaged, is there anything good sub 50eurobucks ?I would have bought an X200/201 if I had the money but what are the alternativesin the X serie that are cheaper?Which one do you recommend ?

>>57045712
Oh yeah, my trusty rocket blower. Good idea.
Man, I love how the back cover has this subtle glitter effect, I never knew that.

>>57045723
Sorry I forgot about politeness :/ Hello !

>>57045723
Or maybe there are Netbooks that would do the trick for this price ?What do you think ? Any advice ?

Still no answer to this, any comment?, I know I have to back up everything, but it would be a shame if the bootloader gets lost and I run into problems trying to reinstall it in the recovery mode

>>57042008
>So, I bought a T430. The fan is always 3500 rpm or above. I was suggested by /g/ to clean the thermal paste/apply thermal paste. But, lenovo support says "it's a bios problem, update bios."
>Question: has anyone updated the bios running linux on a T430?, will it erase my old bootloader?

>>57044392
It's a cheap part, and it's piss easy to replace.

>>57045692
>>57045737
Me again, no BIOS PW, no Computrace, BIOS version 1.37, BIOS settings in general are looking good. I'm really happy with it.

Intenso SSD sounds like some cheapo shit, but oh well, can't be that bad. Otherwise I'm really satisfied with my purchase. You can barely tell that it's been used before. Battery only has a cycle count of 68, too, which is pretty fantastic as far as I can tell.

>>57045723
X61 tablet would probably be perfect. Just max the RAM and slap in an SSD.

>>57045998
Oh thanks ! Where should I buy to get the lowest price ?Ebay ?

>>57046043
Yeah, eBay is generally a good bet.

>>57046063
Allright thank you !

T510 vs T520 for comp eng course?

>>57036861
So whats wrong with these? Am in the process of looking for a refurbished Thinkpad, something smaller than 15 inch to take to class. What would you guys recommend? I actually liked the look of the T431

Will, in 5, 6 or 7 years, Thinkpads still be a thing? I mean, they are already 5 or so years old.

>>57046063

Is it me or are they impossible to find in europe in this price range ?

>>57046437
Ah, apologies, I wouldn't know; I reside in North America.

>>57046451
oh no problem, in fact it seems to be the same issue for all of the older thinkpads, but maybe some netbook would do the trick, I don't know much about them though

>>57046484
Perhaps the regular X61 is more common? The TN panel is not much good for any media, though.

>>57046285
Probably. The world will be a very shitty place if my X220 has trouble browsing the web or other basic stuff.

And with any luck, the Thinkpad Classic will become a reality, combining modern hardware in the tried and true casings.

I should be getting my x220 in the mail tomorrow. I've heard that those things are loaded with bloatware. What's the best way to remove it? Should I just uninstall programs the normal way, or would a factory restore be better?

>>57046187
There's nothing specifically wrong with them, they just aren't up to the ThinkPad quality a lot of us came to expect from the previous iterations. If you don't mind that keyboard, a T430 or T431 would probably serve you fine ( and even then, there are ways to transplant the keyboard from the prior model).

>>57046548
Format, install OS of choice.

>>57046563
It comes with win7, and I'd like to keep it on there.

>>57046581
You can, there will be an OEM Winshit key on the bottom of the laptop you can use to reinstall. Also, depending on how it's set up, there may be a recovery partition you can use to restore the OS to Lenovo defaults.

>>57046604
Okay, thanks friendo

>>57046620
Any time, Anon.

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Post pics of your Thinkpads!

Am about to buy a fully loaded T460p with the largest battery.

Any reasons I should get something else?

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>>57046633
;__;

>>57046812
Replace dat panel, son!

Is the x201i any decent, or should I stay away from i3 laptops? I can get one for about 109 euro, 135 with 8 gb ram.

>>57043908
Fucking why though.

>>57046860
Just did, thinkpads are truly well built for maintenance.

>>57046935
Hell yeah, 6 screws for that on most of them.

Am I the only person with an x250?

Picked it up from a dood on CL this past week for $300.

Has an i5-5300, IPS display, SSD, and a few other nice things, esp compared to my old T400 (R.I.P.).

The only things I've had to do are upgrade the ram (4GB -> 8GB, cost about $40), and mess with a bunch of font sizes, because the screen resolution is honestly a bit much for the form factor.

Other than that, it's super nice!

Is a good price 230usd for a t430 with i5 8ram 500gb mint condition HD tn panel?

Got a t420 here, can it run windows 10 without any problems?

>>57047518
Easily. Windows 10 in general runs better than Windows 7/8/8.1.

>>57044921

I have a T400 with a P8400 at 2.26GHz and if you throw 8GB of RAM and an SSD in it it's more than enough for general internet/media/shitposting needs using Windows 10. I use this machine for everything except movies and gayming. Only downsides of the model are that while 16:10 is objectively superior to 16:9 it'll be hard to find a 1440x900 model so you might have to settle for 1280x800.

Just make sure you get a model with the HD3470. Switchable graphics won't work on Linux or any Windows OS past 7 so you'll have to reboot and change a setting in the BIOS to switch between the Intel GMA and the discrete GPU, but there are times when it's nice having that extra graphical horsepower available.

Don't worry about getting one with the discrete GPU if you plan on using Core/Libreboot though, because they'll disable it and you'll be stuck on the shitty Intel chip anyway.

>>57047666
will it run well on a X220T?

>>57047695

If Windows 7 will run on it, Windows 10 will run on it. This goes for literally any model.

>>57046149
Literally no reason to get the T510. If it had a 16:10 screen like the T500 then maybe, MAYBE you could make a case, but the T520 is so superior for such a small price increase, you would be daft not to get it.

>>57046508
I don't have very high hopes for the Classic, but God dammit I will run my W500 as long as I can, and hopefully replace it with a Classic. The one thing that worries me in that, if it does come out, it will be more like an X300 remake, which means low voltage processors.

>>57047159
Can you get legit X250s for this price or did you happen to buy from Tyrone?

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hey guys, does this mean it's safe to buy?

>>57047722
Except my X300, which was perfectly happy with Win 7 but had major issues with Win 10. Namely, took forever to boot, and the TrackPoint would not work.

>>57047780
Yes.

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Yo, can someone help me out?

How the fuck do I know which drivers I need and which I don't?

>>57047991
thanks

Is Ebay.co.uk the best place to get ThinkPads in Yuropoorland? I'm looking for the X230 and there's lots of them you can buy outright on there but it's hard to know what shape they're in when you can't check them out in person.

Can any Britbongs advise on buying THinkPads on Ebay? Thinking of a T420 or similar model. Is it worth buying the upgraded RAM/SSD versions or upgrade separately?

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>>57046633

>>57048876
that's a cute thinkpad anon. Which model number is it, I can't read it in the picture?

>>57048922
Looks to be an X201 tablet.

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PLEASE HELP ME

im thinking about changing the keyboard on my T430 to a T420 one, because i love the colored keys and all that.

anyways: how hard is it (software wise) to change the keyboards? and do you think the T420 keyboard is actually "better" than the T430 one?

How is the x201 for babbies first thinkpad/linux laptop?

>>57048876
Mashiro-tan a cutie tho

>>57049088
Perfectly fine. Everything should just werk, except wifi if you install a muh freedoms distro.

Debating replacing my Macbook Pro with a T530 with a keyboard swap from a T520, or maybe a W530. What's the highest resolution screen I could put in one? What's the best GPU available in one?

>>57049133
Also, what's the fastest Thinkpad I could get with a 16:10 screen? I don't think I could go back to a 16:9 screen on a laptop.

>>57049133
1080p, Quadro K2000m in the W530.

>>57049161
X201, T410, and W701 were the last 16:10 Thinkpads.

I know we're not supposed to ask for help here but is it okay to ask about repairing a ThinkPad here?

>>57049342
why do you WASTE a fucking post on asking this fucking question?? just FUCKING ASK, dude people like you picc me off so much

>>57049342
Can't hurt to try. At worst nobody will reply or someone will get triggered. At best you'll get a useful answer. You've really got nothing to lose.

>>57049399
Sorry, won't do it again.

I've had an X100e for a couple of years that couldn't turn on because it overheated on startup. I think there's too much dust in the vent so tried putting a Shock Vac to the fan to get it out, it can turn on now but it still overheats after about a minute. Is there something else I should do or is there something else wrong with it?

>>57049462
its possible that the thermal paste is old and dried up. it can no longer transfer the heat from whatever is overheating to the cooling unit.

id just take it to some laptop repair shop and have them renew the paste

What are the downsides to getting T430 over T420? Difference in battery?

>>57049589
keyboard layout
that's it

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What do you niggers think of my Dell Precision that UPS just delivered?

>>57049589
nothing. the t420 keyboard is a just a meme

>>57049589
keyboard layout
you HAVE to use official lenovo 70++ batteries, you can't use chink ones or the older ones.
and you can't de whitelist the bios to install your own wireless card.
Although I'd still take a **30 device over a **20 device any day.

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been gone for a while and will be again so just quick question: any news about retro tp?

on second note here is what ultrabase3 (for X220(t), X230(t)) looks like from inside

Which computers do you think /tpg/ will talk about 10 years from now? Do you think the T420s will still be functional at that time?

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I picked up a T430 for £130 how did I do /tpg/?

>>57049005
bump, I'm missing those function keys and 7th row :(

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Just got a package
what's in the box?

Where do you order those tabs on the side of the keyboard on the X230/X220 Tablets? It seems like something easy to fix, but a lot of these on eBay don't have them.

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>>57050217
new (used) t520 Chinkpad

>>57050371
What's the difference between the T520, and the W520?

Also, how much did you cop it for?

>>57050416
no idea
W520 I think is more powerful, though this one has been fully refurbished and compromised with a larger battery, more ram, an SSD, and an i7

got it for $400 canuck funbucks plus the docking port along with it.

>>57050504
Fucking nice, you scored on that one

>>57043895
>run TF2 on a T60p without too much trouble
proofs?
can you run hl2 episodes or portal with decent amount of graphics/fps on it?

I just saw a few x220 in pretty fucking mint condition going for the Mexican equivalent of 200 USD. They even have that big ass extended battery you can use to carry it around.

hi newfag here why is /g/ obsessed with thinkpads is it a meme

>>57050796
$200 each, or for all of them? If you can get a few for that price heck yea, but otherwise $200 for one isn't the best you can get

>>57050826
big big meem

Why isn't the usb 3.0 port not working on my t420s? It only works as a usb 2.0. I reinstalled the drivers 20 times so I don't think it's a driver problem

>>57050826
memes and because they're the best bang for the buck laptops

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I bought a 11e(not a "true" thinkpad, i know :( ) and the volume is messed up. The mute LED on the F1 key stays lit while its turned on, and all the buttons ONLY toggle the volume(so if the thing is muted, F1, F2 and F3, along with the side vol buttons un-mute it. Hit any of them again and it remutes it)

Does anyone know how to fix this? I tried updating the bios without any luck. Also tried contacting lenovo for support. No reply yet(Also, WTF at how hard it is to get a hold of them. Just to *ask* a question, i need to give them my serial number, create an account on a different website, and submit a ticket with my address and other shit... Theres no simple "contact us at this email address" or "submit a question" page on their site.)

Also, for anyone considering it... Dont. The bezels on the screen are ridiculously bad and the keyboard is shit compared to my T61. Its also too bulky to treat like a netbook.

Is the current T460 still /g/ approved?

Guys, my X230 keeps instantly shutting of randomly. Sometimes seconds after showing the desktop, sometimes it runs for hours. Recently it got more frequent though. Its not overheating and i dont think its power. Anyone else here having similar problems? Thanks.

>>57051812
does it happen on battery and/or plugged in? Does it beep as it goes off? Is it *JUST* the screen the goes off, or does the entire thing power down? Does it *ONLY* happen once you're in windows(never prior to loading the OS, or while using other OS's)?

If its just the screen that goes out, you might just need to fidget with the cable, or replace the inverter. If its only after the thing loads windows, might just need to do a fresh install.

For the X220T, is there a digitizer that fits into the holder silo that isn't the one given by Lenovo?

What kind of used Thinkpad can I get for <$200?

>>57052237
x230

>>57052237
x220/t420

Anyone know an X220 battery that doesn't suck ass?

>>57052338
x230's a bit optimistic imo. most of the time they go for $225 up.

where are you seeing them sub $200?

>>57052701
I don't know the x230, but I got my t430 for $190

>>57052780
Yeah I was thinking of the X230t. My bad

Where do you guys get thinkpads reliable?

>>57052890
ebay

So installing an SSD in my T420 should make is faster in general, right?

>>57053013
You have to buy a new SSD every 6 months to keep the speed though anon. Otherwise you might as well get a 4200 RPM hard drive.

>>57053035
nice meme

>>57053035
lol wut. TRIM is a thing you know

>>57053045
Nice marketing gimmick there shill.

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>>57053060
>he fell for the ssd is a meme meme and is trying to justify buying a 5400RPM HDD in the two thousandth sixteenth year of our Lord, Jesus Christ

>>57052849

x230 is still pushing it. After putting in an SSD, upgrading the ram, and putting in a new battery, an x220 will barely be under $200.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2-50GhZ-6GB-RAM-500GB-Win-7-/311715312755?hash=item4893ae3473:g:tIEAAOSwV0RXtdY2
Is this a good deal?

>>57053082

>he

Please use the gender neutral "they." It's rude to assume that a redditor is a male.

>>57053082
>he has to justify his purchases by saying that other things are memes

>>57053104
there are no girl redditors. /b/ told me so

>>57053097

No. Should be about a hundred dollars for the base unit, then add on depending on the extras. That unit shouldn't be more than 140 if you're looking for a "deal."

Really, you'd be better off buying a parts unit, an 8gb kit, and the SSD separately.

That's not to say it's a ripoff, but if your budget is tight and you aren't in a rush, you can afford to wait.

>>57053112

>girl

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

GENDER ISN'T BINARY, YOU CIS SCUM!!!!!

>>57053112
but what if they are a trans androsexual vampire with a robot head-mate

>>57053140
>>57053145
I guess I have a lot to learn about gender equality

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>downgrade T420 bios to unlock 1600 MHz RAM
>797 MHz instead of 800 MHz
This triggers my autism

>>57053155

Gender is just a social construct, faggot.

>>57053129
thanks

>>57053176
most of your clocks run "close enough to the correct speed"

:)

>>57053232

No problem. I see some parts units up now for around 100 dollars. An 8gb kit cost 30 dollars and an SSD will be another 40-50 depending on the side (though with an ultrabay caddy you really won't need a large SSD).

You can get by with just buying a 4gb stick for 12 dollars to get 6gb if you are watching your money (most parts units will come with at least a 2gb stick already).

>>57050058
My mom still uses a T60 as her daily, so why not?

>>57050416
The W520 has workstation grade graphics and is generally easy to find with an i7 and a 1080p screen. Other than that, they are functionally identical.

>>57051760
It's sort of the best we can hope for under the circumstances. I sort of wish Lenovo stuck with the xx30 form factor since it was the perfect balance between keeping Thinkpad autists happy and joining the chiclets meme, but then they had to go and completely fuck up everything with the xx40 generation. The xx60 is sort of a happy compromise between "totally fucked" and "I guess I could live with this".

Should I buy an X1 Carbon? Can get it for under $400 USD

>>57051760
That's good to hear. I've been looking into the T460P with the 1440 display actually. I think the soul of the older Thinkpads is still alive in it. And thanks for the reply, seems like everyone in these threads shits on new Thinkpads

>>57052035
It goes completely dead, no beep, as if all power were cut off.

It happens plugged in with and without battery and with battery only as well. I wiggled battery and connector around it still works.

It hasnt happened in the bios so far, but it occured on windows boot logo.
Thanks for helping.

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>>57036009
All these Latitudes and I still have never owned a ThinkPad. Just for dicking around, is a cheap T42 a good way to start?

>>57047749
Bought it from a guy who works IT, and gets a new computer through his job every year or so. He just upgraded, and I caught a deal.

is the tb for the t430s even worth it for egpu?

>>57053683

t42 isn't bad for muh aesthetic

Functionally, the **20 generation is the best bargain right now.

>>57052620
lenovo 9 cell

>>57039378
still looking for a x230 in europe...

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>there will never be anything better then a T22
why live?

It's 12.5" too small? I'm torn between an x230 and t430

X60s reporting in.

Feels awesome.

>>57055007
12.5 isnt too small its comfy
if you have a 1080p screen at home for home usage its really nice.
the things that makes its small is the resolution.
1366 x 768 is shit and annoying imo its alright for general use for a bit but its just annoying the shit out of me

>>57055007

12.5" is great.....it makes for a nice size and weight that is truly portable.....

If you need a larger screen you can always output using VGA or HDMI.

>>57044344
TempleOS

>>57044344
antergos minimal with xfce4

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do you get eyecancer when you look at the screen on a W530?

>>57055825
I just read about this. The concept of a christian OS is kind of amazing. Is it actually good, as a distro?

Hello. I bought Dell E6430. So far so good. My question is what to use modu bay and express card for? Thanks

>>57044344

I use Windows XP......I use my Thinkpad X60s for gaming as well as coding.

>>57055977
Why don't you make a partition?

>T430 keys are starting to fall off
Fucking hell my T400 and 600e had much heavier use and this never happened. Fucking chicklet keyboards.

>>57037585
I tried two of those at Micro Center. They were no better than my three year old Macbook Air and I thought the Latitude was much better. They also felt about as durable as potato chips.

>>57040576
No 9 cell, parts are rarer.

>>57055722
>>57055749
I'll be using it only when working on projects in college and ocassionally media while in bed. I'm just worried that 12,5 might be too smal to have text editor + pdf reader side by side and be readable

I've found some X230's that are being sold for cheap without the battery, is it worth it to buy one along with a new battery? How hard is it to replace the internal battery? Or is it possible to use it with the 9 cell battery only?

soon to be the owner of a used x220, i5, ips.
> feels ok, still a poorfag solution thos

Anyone seen the thinkpad yoga x1 OLED screen? Thing's pricey but 14 inches of 1440p OLED display sounds worth it

Found a good X220, but the seller has no idea what IPS is. How can I see if it's IPS by the unique series code

>>57056548
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lenovo+x220+ips+fru

>>57056395
X230 only uses the main battery for power. Unless you mean the clock battery, in which case it's a few screws to reveal it, you just unplug it and plug in the new one
Bear in mind you'll probably have to pay genuine lelnovo prices one way or another for the main battery though because Ivy vag onwards requires the authentication chip

>>57056378
For me 12.5" is way too small which is why i went for the T420, the extra drive and upgradeable cpu helped too but still.

Go to a store and check similar sized 12" laptops to get an idea.

>>57056548


There is no concrete, 100% way of checking except physical examination. The device manger method does not always work and some sellers could not be bothered.

>>57055966
terry davis is a meme. it's all curses-esque scripture, nothing more, nothing less.

>bank info I gotta transfer the money to states it's a Mrs
>person on the phone is a male with a foreign accent

I don't like where this is going

>>57056790
back out now

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>>57056790
dont listen to
>>57056799
he is probably a well-to-do migrant who, because of cunning business strategy has built a successful enough empire for himself that he could afford muh white wimmins

>>57056830

It would be far worse the other way around. Pay to :
Mrs Smith
Local Bank of Pakistan

>>57056799
>>57056830
guy did send me the screenshots I requested there >>57047780

his grammar is also good in the mails, so yea, I think I'll go ahead anyway

I REALLY hope I'm not getting fucked over though, it's only 200€ but it still hurts

>>57056868
did you make that collage or did he provide the image like that? I would ask for individual pictures for reverse search tbqh if you're concerned senpai

>>57056961
no he did provide individual pictures, both in enabled and disabled state. So it has to be legit right?

Does any Yuropoor have any experience with this site? It looks fairly legit and I don't really care about the price too much as long as they're in good condition

https://www.lapstore.de/f.php/shop/lapstore/f/830/lang/en/kw/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-Serie/

I've never actually had a laptop before, and I'm looking for a smallish one with decent battery life, for media consumption and office work. budget around 200 euro or so.

I'm not sure wether to go for the x or t series. I'm also not sure how well thinkpad screens are any good for movies and stuff. Any tips?

>>57043617
Pretty sure the outside panel is a standard design, so you can swap your think pad fascia onto the new bay.

At least that's what I did with my msi laptop, looks the same as ever

>>57044344
Literally arch with i3

>>57048966
X201 have leds elsewhere.

>>57057653
And no desktop environment, am I right? (no gnome nor sdk...)
If I follow this, will I install it right?
http://joaquinlp.me/blog/your-guide-to-a-damn-light-arch-linux-with-i3-and-text-apps/

>>57050829
Naw, man. 200$ each. It's a pretty good deal if you consider that electronics and shit here are much more expensive.

Just bought an EXP GDC Beast off gaybest, hooked it all up with my RM 650 and my RX 480, turned it on and it didn't work. Running Arch, any clues?

Can T420 handle 720p video in mpv with interpolation enabled?

testpost from my new x220, thanks /g/, I fell for a good meme

I have a 2011 Macbook Pro that I want to upgrade to something lighter and better battery life, is it worth it to go for the X220 since it's cheaper but the i5 2520m still beats the CPU benchmarks of the i5 2435m in my Macbook, or should I grab the X230? I've upgraded my Macbook with 8 GB RAM and a 500 GB SSD that I can reuse in the Thinkpad.

>>57058121
>Running Arch
The EXP GDC is the only reason why i'm using Windows 7 on my Thinkpad instead of Linux right now.

>>57058183
Oh fuck yes, you could pull that shit off with a T400 so the much more powerful T420 should be able to do it no problem.

>>57058121
>egpu on linux
ayy

>>57059334
teach me freedom 0 senpai

>>57058238
The only thing the x220 has is the keyboard. Otherwise the x230 is better in every way.

>>57059411
I know but I'm on a tight budget. I'll try to go for the X230 since I want a better GPU.

>>57059523
If there's no rush then just paitiently wait for a killer deal. Was able to get my x230 that had an ssd and 8gb ram for $160 on CL

>>57059542
CL? In what city?

>>57059542
I'm in Europe, they're hard to find as is. Sites are selling refurbed X230's for $340. I'm going to keep looking at Ebay

>>57058226
pics desu

>>57058226
I'm probably getting mine tomorrow, I'm excited to try it

is 220€ for an used x230 with 8gb a good deal?

>>57036009
I'm looking at this on cl
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/sys/5776916791.html
Looks pretty good. I just need something for class/anime on the go

Man, fuck these european ebay resellers. Their prices are a lot higher than the burgerlanders, which I can tolerate since electronics are more expensive over here. But these britbongs and germans are asking 25-40 euro in shipping, while I'm right next to them. The italians, who are considerably further away than they are, only ask about 10 euro shipping on average. It's annoying because it pushes most deals from being barely decent to not worth the money.

>>57059881
where dat ?
>>57059992
i'm in the same boat, where else can one look for a thinkpad, other than ebay ?

>>57060118
>where else can one look for a thinkpad, other than ebay ?

Supposedly there should be heaps of them on local secondhand sites, but I think it's just the Americans who are spoiled by craigslist. My local secondhand sites barely have any, and the ones they do have are from resellers who ask even more than ebay prices.

Anyone here bought refurbished from newegg on ebay before? I'm looking at the t420 for 219 bucks. I know its a bit more than normal.

Got my first thinkpad (T430) today (£215) with two batteries, perfect condition apart from an lcd bezel which is a bit loose (clicks if you push it in). Any suggestions?

What do you guys think of these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-Intel-Core-i5-2-50GHz-8GB-320GB-WIN10-Office-Kodi-Nice-/172359482774?hash=item28216cfd96:g:WXYAAOSwOtBXS3V9
The price seems good, and it apparently they were for office use.

>>57060198
yeah... i feel you.

someone said that 200Euros are a good price for used x230 here in europe... but can't seem to find any

>>57060271
I wanted to get a cheap x201 or x220, with 8gb ram and a 128gb ssd either outright or to put in myself for under 200 euro, which I thought would be doable looking at the guide prices.

But that obviously hasn't worked out yet. I did find a t410 locally for about 90 euro, but I don't know about the portability/battery life of that thing. I'm also really sketchy on the thinkpad screens and how good they are for general media consumption, but I can't really judge that unless I see one in person.

It's certainly been a wild ride up until now, but I'm not giving up yet.

Bagged a T440P (16GB,256GB SSD & FHD) for £265. Upgraded from a dying T420. Trackpad is my only gripe so far...

>>57060384
Nice

>>57055937
Got one last week. The resolution and color is amazing, but the viewing angles are horrendous.

>>57059904
just sent him a message and offered him 250$ cash

sorry about your luck baka

>>57055983

I have another computer with Linux on it.

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>>57060841
>250 bucks for a $130 laptop

How come my battery is dying so quickly?
Ijust got my new t520, and it came with a 9 cell battery.
I charged it up fully last night but now its dying really quickly, saying only an hour left of battery life, when I assumed a 9 cell would get at least above 5h.

I have a sanyo 42t4799, I'm hoping that its some other issue and not that the battery is old/dead because I'd prefer not to have to buy a new 9-cell already.

>>57061133
battery wear, check with batteryinfoview,

Is it a good idea to try and get a Thinkpad with dedicated graphics? As in, does it help out with day to day tasks?

>>57061180
doesn't work with lienux and I'm too lazy and dumb now to get it working

I assume it is battery wear since its dying fast and I'm barely doing anything.

will just live with it until I can get a new one.
also gonna try letting it die completely then recharging fully.

>>57061232
Not for day to day tasks unless you do stuff like video editing

>>57061232
Not worth it imo.

Integrated is enough for daily usage and eGPU works for heavy usage.

>>57061300

In linux there's an application, Power Statistics, which tells you the battery model, serial number, energy when full and energy when full (design), among other things.

There you can see if it is battery wear or something else

>>57059696
LA

>>57059728
Good luck!

>>57061133
>>57061300
>>57061369
tp_smapi/acpi_call and tlp-stat can show you this information in Linux.

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Hey, so I just got an x220. I'm having two strange issues. First, everything is stretched. When using the default resolution, everything is widened out, but when I use the 960x600, it's all good. I installed the drivers they gave me and stuff, but that didn't help.

Second, there doesn't seem to be any way to change the screen brightness. The fn keyboard shortcut does nothing, and when I go into the battery settings, there's no option to fiddle with the brightness.

I have a feeling this might be a driver issue. What do you guys think?

>>57061543
Driver issue. Download drivers from Lenovo.