/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

hi

>>57034008
hi

>>57034008
hi

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>>57034008
>>57034033
>>57034060

Hey HEY, listen


-noob / baby tier gaming purpose:
>Ubuntu
>Debian
>Void

-Intermediate tier
>Fedora
>Slackware
>Source Mage

-Serious programming / top tier server server usage
>Arch
>Gentoo

>>57034088
>arch
>serious
nice meme

>>57034097
Ur mum is a meme :-D

>>57034106
Let me explain.

The meme people are falling for:
>Arch Linux - A simple and lightweight Linux distribution

The reality:
Kernel bloated with literally all modules available, packages twice as huge as on other distros, the only lightweight thing on Arch is the non-existant installer.

>>57034122
>Kernel bloated with literally all modules available,
Oh you again. Proves how boring your life is for actively springing on a specefic distro.

The kernel parameters can be set according to your autism spectrum before installation. Not that you would know because you never really installed Arch.

Employed people use a kernel that works.

>packages twice as huge as on other distros,

Wrong. I always give you a simple example: install screenfetch. It's just a bash script. However, debian decides to install scrot as a dependency. The repo of debian is bloated no matter what you do with your package manger, it's not going to change anything on debian repo servers.


>the only lightweight thing on Arch is the non-existant installer.
If you need an installer there is architect, arch anywhere and antergos.

Text installers are objectively far more flexible

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Is there a "stallman compliant" desktop environment? Or how do I find out what software is actually fully free like stallman always talks about? I'm just honestly curious if it's possible to get a decent setup working like this.

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57034153
Arch is okay

>>57034164
>not recognizing that it's a spam post

>>57034153
xubuntu

>>57033344
Bumping just once again

>>57034164
isn't it a complete pain to set up?

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>>57034153
fix'd

>>57034173
>>57034173
>runit
>shit doesn't work

who knew

>>57034151
Emacs

>>57034183
Antergos, pham

>try to intall kde
>1,5 GB [y/n]?
>n
nope.ogg

>>57034233
lol poorfag

>>57034151
Just check the license the program is released with.

Debian based systems have splitted repos for free and nonfree stuff, you can also run vrms to soo which installed packages are nonfree.

>stuck with linux lite because winrar gives me error messages when i put debian/arch on a cd with win'8'
>get a no os error when i load the comp that linux is on when i try to boot up when usb
>try to load os-uninstaller from the linux tower and i need to put it on a cd but i go to user>share>apps and just see the shortcut to it

only way out now is find the path to the os-uninstaller and put it on usb then put usb in the win'8' tower then transfer from usb to cd and boot it on the linux tower.

fucking botnet! let me escape and enjoy freedom!

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>>57034151
Have this check list.

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>>57034263
enjoy your useless bloat

>chmod -R 750 /srv/www/
>chown -R dev:www-data /srv/www/

is this secure ?

>>57034339
>useless bloat
They called are features. poorfag
Next time buy a hard drive with at least 64GB space

I've recently updated lubuntu on a MV to 16.04 and now Atom doesn't work properly, is there any easy way to simply reinstall it?

>>57034296
now just installing distro and seeing if i can get them on a CD.
downloading;
>xubuntu
>Antergos

once i find a good working distro for my test comp [ dell dimension e510 ], am gunna TRY to remove win'8' and install that distro.

What's your vim leader key?

First for fedora

>>57034405
Second for System D

>>57034405
*and last

>>57034405
>tfw no distro with fedora+gnome level of just werks except with kde

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>>57034358
I think your distro is broken, did you happen to upgrade from 14.*?

>>57034381
I used both, they are good choices anon
>He doesn't like windows 8

>>57034412
kek Fedora is okay too

>>57034469
If Fedora would disappear tomorrow, nobody would miss it. Why? Because it has no point to exist. It's anal about freedom, but makes exeptions for drivers, so you can strike the freedom thing. What's left? Nothing but a testbed for RHEL. Nearly no user repos and special snowflake users.

>>57034469
Yup. Should I just delete the VM and start over? Nothing of value will be lost.

www.antergos.com is down
;_;

>>57034494
>testbed for RHEL
and? Makes it stable
>but makes exceptions for drivers
and?
>special snowflake users.
you're confusing it with arch

So in next few weeks im suppose to survive on 2-3 gigs of bandwidth per week.
Is it possible anons?
I plan to download tv shows im watching with phone from public wifis, but for the rest, could i survive with only 2-3 gigs?

>>57034520
lol newfag
http://linuxtracker.org/?page=torrents&search=antergos&category=0&active=0

>>57034562
>2-3 gigs of bandwidth per week.
Should be okay provided that you don't use facebook and youtube.

repost for new thread
>>57033965
is it LXDE or LXQT?

Use compton or compiz if LXDE, use kwin if LXQT imo.

also, LDXE and LXQT really isn't made for high performance graphics if you didn't notice. if you use KDE, unity, or GNOME, you should get tear-free rendering out of the box. They're the "just werks" desktop environments. You can also try the wayland flavors of those DEs, or enlightmenment 17. Wayland doesn't have screen tearing.

>>57034599
why facebook, i dont think that facebook is on same level as youtube

>>57034632
Facebook is a heavy website if you have media enabled

>>57034624
Don't go with LX* until LXQt comes out in ubuntu

>>57034562
Time to dive into your backlog.

>>57034562
No video streaming and you should be fine.

>>57034683
I think it should handle like 360p videos, they are not that heavy

>>57034469
i used too but it now seems like 10 is under it and using 8 as a mask.

>missed the rollback to install 7 and XP is faded out. i get Error code: 0x80070241 with 7 now.
>winrar/7zip is giving me errors when i try to extract linux distros to a CD
i have tried with; debian amd64/archlinux2016.10.01-dual.iso/xubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso and now trying that last one but with .i386.iso
>why do i wanna not keep using 8?
i do not want microsoft to pull a fast one on me even though i have updates turned off + sick of the way they are going + muh privacy + comfy XP meme

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>>57034190
lel, just live in Emacs. Truly, the enlightened path. There's even a nice web browser on the latest versions.

>>57034397
Spacebar

>>57034405
>free except for firmware blobs
This makes it shitty for freedom.
>no optional nonfree repos like Debian
This makes it shitty for people who don't care about freedom and want convenience.

Also I hate how their installer works in how it requires tons of mouse usage.

Fedora is shitty for everyone.

>>57034562
that's not too bad. avoid videos and you're ok. you can do a lot offline on pc, write some code for fun.

>>57034741
Well ill be doing that anyway. Not for fun, but because i must to.
I need to master design patterns till the end of this year (c++ and java).

>>57034739
>This makes it shitty for freedom.
then don't use it? Only the extreme paranoid stallman types care, Those people don't even post here because google ccaptcha

>no optional nonfree repos like Debian
heaven forbid you add 3rd party ones. rpmfusion, corp, russian fedora

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>>57034730
Simple solution: Disable Network in windows

>>57034554
>and? Makes it stable
Actually the opposite; stuff that doesn't break goes into RHEL, how does that make Fedora stable?

>and?
Either freedom or not, but nitpicking with special "freedom guidelines" for repos, but allowing blobbed drivers at the same time is just stupid.

>you're confusing it with arch
No, Arch is one of the most common distros. The users may be kids, but not special snowflakes. I'm referring to people who fall for the "enterprise/business distro" crap, eg. tippers.

>>57034829
How much would you fuck lucifers mom?

>>57034829
what would that do and when i do that then what next?

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>>57034867
Do I really need to tell? :^)

On a side note, I don't know much about Christianity but isn't she technically Merry? Merry is in hell?

So I get *buntu is bloat and/or utter tripe all the way down, but what about Xubuntu Core?

>>57034854
1. stuff that doesn't break in rawhide goes to testing. Stuff in testing that doesn't break goes to stable. Stuff in stable goes to RHEL.
Pretty stable tbqh.

2. people build kit cars from the ground up from homemade parts yet still drop a crate engine in it because it just works.

3. nice shill

>>57034912
Nope, Merry is mother of Jesus as much as i know.

>>57034776
that's not fun at all. i meant some fun programming. like some games or mess with something low level or some more theoretical algorhithmic stuff.

Do you know TempleOS? Check it out, it's fun to just mess around in. It's an OS made for recreational programming that's ring 0 only so it lets you access everything from anywhere, it's like old commodore64 but for modern cpu architectures. It's like 20MB and you install it in a VM in minutes.

>>57034922
Everything *buntu should be avoided. You should probably just avoid anything debian-based, actually. Try out Arch, or maybe Fedora.

>>57034891
>what would that do
See
>i do not want microsoft to pull a fast one on me even though i have updates turned off + sick of the way they are going + muh privacy + comfy XP meme

No internet, no forced botnet

>>57034932
And of course, you can even use windows 10 without worries on that scenario

>>57034930
>Fedora
How is Red Hat any better than Canonical?

>>57034927
So what's the difference between Isaiah and Jesus?

>>57034974
None of them existed

>>57034183
Arch Anywhere

>"Lel you fell for the le Arch is lightweight meme xDDDDD"

So what distro do you mouthbreathers recommend that's rolling release? Arch is the only rolling release distro worth using unless you're on the spectrum

>>57034974
Hm, i was raised as orthodox christian and i dont know anything about "Isaiah" desu

>>57034088
Found the NEET. How's unemployment?

>>57035034
Lmao buttmad poorfag calling me NEET

Get in line, faggot

>>57034922
Xubuntu is good.

>>57035015
Gentoo obviously. Portage blows the fuck out of AUR, which is like half broken packages, and the packages in [main] are so vanilla that if something breaks the maintainers just ignore it and tell you to fuck off to upstream.

>>57035095
Senpai, portage is a pacakge manager and AUR is a repo

>>57035095
>unless you're on the spectrum

Try again

>>57035015
>rolling release
Give me one valid reason why you need this.

>>57035110
See >>57034358

>>57035110
I don't need it, I want it.

>>57035105
The scope of portage in its default configuration with the gentoo tree of ebuilds is greater than AUR and doesn't have broken packages in it, it also doesn't require a "repository" to be up for it to function.

>>57035110
i'm on fedora right now and have to wait multiple weeks for fedora 25 in order to get any of the bug fixes or features in the new version of gnome

>>57035161
>broken packages
Senpai read the pkgbuilds, you really shouldn't press y-n-n-y, it's not a magic

>>57035218
I know something working must seem like magic to an Arch user like yourself but I assure you its not.

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HALP
Using openSUSE Tumbleweed, this appears when I try to enable subpixel rendering in Yast. How can I make it work? The default font rendering looks horrible.

>>57035284
Senpai on that defenition, nothing works in Gentoo

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Why did i never see any deepin OS here ?

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>>57035288
better screenshot

>>57035299
Gentoo has live builds that pull from git that work better than stable packages in AUR.

Thats how big the disparity between the two is.

One is maintained by professional developers, the other is a ftp that skids upload shit to with built in twitter feeds on every package.

>>57035344
Senpai they both pull vanilla git packages, none of them are more "stable"

>>57035322
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration#Subpixel_rendering

>>57035358
Anyone can upload to AUR

Portage packages don't have that problem.

>>57035358
Do you know what HEAD is in a git project?
Stable is usually a point release, so I'm saying that random shit pulled with git on portage has a higher success rate than an actual versioned binary package pulled from AUR because AUR has no quality control and the packages are broken.

But I'm starting to think that you are just saying retarded shit instead of actually arguing.

>>57035404
Anyone can upload to git

People don't have any problem with that

>dosnt know how to parse the bullsit from the juice when using markov

57031732▶ >>57031709 I used more than 70% of their belts and redundancies that simply don't exist in purely functional programming in the hip language
>> Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)19:09:24 No
57032929▶>>57033022 >>57033188 Yes, for posts Like irrelevant comments on the only way to code from 1989
57032436▶>>57032929 >>57031924 I have taken away their belts and Java are the reason why functional programming was a pain in the most known programming languages
Javascript is getting worse every now and redundancies that simply don't really know what I'm accustomed to take about functional design were able to reuse code from THIRTY FUCKING YEARS ago totally BTFO functional programming became so successful and McDermott 1989)
57035398▶ >>57035206 Believe it going to shit, so of marginally-skilled programmers work on anonymous image boards
>> Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)15:28:34 No
I fucking hate this site is getting worse every day >> Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)15:46:21 No
57031431▶>>57035206 File: 4f7b75a7-dc86-4d5d-a119-f(
57031709▶>>57031732 >>57031698 So? >> Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)15:23:52 No

Why can't we all be friends?

>>57035419
>versioned binary package pulled from AUR
Senpai clearly you never used Arch,
There are 2 options for you almost, almost always:
Like:
1. atom (7664 votes)
2. atom-bin (239 votes)

Pick one

>>57035439
Chronic autism

>>57035443
If the naming were actually that conventional it might be less of a problem but thats an example of quality control failing.

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>>57035453
>Grasping straws
Senpai pls

>>57035466
Quality isn't a straw.
There isn't any to grasp in AUR.

>>57035439
when I remove it by hand

)
I don't really know what greentexting is the most known programming was back then
I just want to do something completely irrelevant differently than what greentexting is better though >> Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)15:16:40 No
Sorry
I used an object-oriented approach were able to OOP is better though defending shitty, low quality posts like you even know nothing about programming is the only way to do anything with it doesn't make any logical sense


4/10 for you 12? Nobody really good point
Wow this "study" from previous projects that simply don't care about programming languages
OMG HOW ARE FUNCTIONAL TARDS EVER GONNA RECOVER FROM THIS #REKKING? LMAO /g/ Haskell and shoelaces! DELET THIS NEVER It's easy to work in some stuff in it

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>>57035440
Me and senpai are good friends, thanks for your concern though

>>57035466
>grasping at cocks
crossdressing homo pls

>>57035528
>crossdressing homo pls
New to /g/?

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>>57035549
>taking it seriously

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>>57035466
>>57035523
SMUG

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>>57034799
>then don't use it?
I don't. I use Debian because I agree with and care about the ethics of free software.

>Only the extreme paranoid stallman types care,
I guess you enjoy having restricted freedoms and a higher potential for malware/spyware, since only those types don't care about how unethical proprietary software is.

>Those people don't even post here because google ccaptcha
You can actually use captcha minus the nonfree javascript.

>heaven forbid you add 3rd party ones. rpmfusion, corp, russian fedora
Yeah, because 3rd party repositories
- have no official support from Fedora
- take longer to update & maintain stability with the latest versions of Fedora
- require extra work to find and install/configure for use

Debian is 100% free, but can easily take advantage of officially* unofficial** nonfree repositories.

*because they're hosted on Debian's site along with info about them
**because they're nonfree and go against the DFSG "Debian Free Software Guidelines"

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>>57035588
>>57035593
Well thanks

>>57035015
Debian Unstable/Sid

>>57035601
>Arch: fuck u
>Gentoo: no fuck u
>Debian has entered the game

>>57035619
Debibabbies are always welcome

>>57034923
>proprietary software is cool
>it just works
cuck spotted

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>>57035311
It's Chinese. That's literally why no one talks about it. Connecting to their servers and finding info about them is harder than English-based distros, for all us English-speaking-folk. I'm too lazy to even figure out if Deepin's stance on free software.

But yeah, they have a cool DE and bunch of apps. I've only played with it in a VM a bit. Whenever it is mentioned, people are usually praising it and from what I've seen it has a lot of polish.

Name and tripfags fuck off already with your cancer.

>>57035609
>>57035593
>>57035523
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/

>>57035736
Filter them if you don't like them.

>>57035746
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/r/4chan

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>>57035736
>>57035752
There's even an option in 4chan X to make everyone appear anonymous. I don't know who's name/tripfagging until I notice people arguing about it.

>>57035776
woops, forgot a picture

>>57035601
>worrys this much about proprietary and muh freedoms
>posts to a Canadian maple syurp logging forum that uses google captcha

>>57034088
I maintain some older stuff at work, so I use Debian to avoid any incompatibility/fuckery. Also, I have seen a few "gaming channels" on YouTube make "how to install Arch Linux" videos. I think your point is kind of dumb.

>>57035833
>Also, I have seen a few "gaming channels" on YouTube make "how to install Arch Linux" videos.
These are the kind of people that only install Arch to say "I'm cool because I'm running an operating system that's not Windows".
They don't actually understand the commands that they're putting into the terminal, they're just regurgitating it from tutorials they found on the internet.

>>57034088
Dubs of truth

>>57034088
Why the fuck would you use Arch/Gentoo for a server? Debian would be a better option for a server because the software is stable.

>>57035884
>t. NEET
Servers run RHEL and CentOS

>>57034299
AKA Im a giant pedo wizard with nothing else to my name since then 80's
I just want free code because i cant think of anything new or inventive(check out hurd we just got sound support this year!!!!!!!!!)
I dont want to think of the original idea of why it was created, i just want to have the code so i can use it for something i need down the line.


STALLMAN MANIFESTO

>>57035917
Your autism level must be above sever to be able to make that connection

>>57035912
Not necessarily.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-linux-continues-to-rule-the-cloud/

>>57035947
severe*

>>57035952
No where does it say that Ubuntu holds the majority of the servers

>>57035981
And no where does it say that RHEL or CentOS holds the majority of the servers.

>>57035912
>>57035981
https://w3techs.com/blog/entry/ubuntu_became_the_most_popular_linux_distribution_for_web_servers

>>57036017
I'm not the one who posted that link to claim ubuntu is the major server os
>>57036030
>web_servers

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HELP
suddenly my system went all berserk, apps failing, config files missing
only thing that remained was the terminal, some errors showed up with
> for system read only
what the hell is going on?

>>57036043
>web_servers

Damage control.

>>57036030
Is it because their deal with dell?

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>>57036074
Canonical made a big push on cloud. Look at that rise.

>>57036054
Re install your DE and apps, your post is vague- what caused this? What did you do?

>>57036093
retard

>>57036093
And these stats are based on what?

>>57036146
no u

>>57036054
>>57036094
OK, I did nothing, things started going to sit after about 8h uptime
tried a reboot,
and seems like the HDD where/home is giving i/o errors

this is a pretty old disk, and I was suspecting hard drive failure after a few files went kaput
throwing errors sectors 70 through 78
what do now?

>>57036146
Since you like to steal names, enjoy my tripcode.

>>57036094
btw almost suspected kde
there was a recent update and it was the first to crash

>>57036173
This isn't reddit, fuck off already with your name/tripfag autism.

>>57036186
You crashed you whole system apperently

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>>57036157
See
>>57036030

Do you have more sources that prove this? Here's a pretty in-depth OpenStack survey: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-users-share-how-their-deployments-stack-up/

>>57036173
filtered :^)

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All right KDE masters... I have a question. I've Installed KDE over regular Ubuntu with Unity and I've rebooted and logged in and selected KDE Plasma and my info says I'm running "KDE Plasma 5.6.5",

Dolphin works fine and all the native Qt applications look fine and work well.

However, GNOME applications like Firefox look weird. For example, this is the file picker from Firefox (pic related).

Is it possible to get the KDE file picker for GNOME applications so I can see thumbnail previews of pictures?

how do I stop the screen tearing?

>>57035884
>Why the fuck would you use Arch for a server?
Dunno.
>Why the fuck would you use Gentoo for a server?
Because it can be built 100% for the server's specific needs with every little thing being optimized for its combination of hardware and software, on top of being as stable as it needs to be for any given purpose. Gentoo is a great choice for a server.
RHEL and CentOS are good choices for a server.
Debian is a shitty choice for anything, don't fall for the 3 years old software meme.

>>57036203
>>>/reddit/

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>>57036216

>>57034153
lubuntu , xubuntu , apricity and manjaro xfce

>>57036229
Don't bully it.
>>57036236
Nice meme, got it from tumblr?

>>57036217
>Is it possible to get the KDE file picker for GNOME applications so I can see thumbnail previews of pictures?
Yes, but you need to either manually patch these applications or install an already patched binary from OpenSUSE or Arch's AUR.

>>57034352
kde doesn't even have proper theming. GTK themes are fucked and wm themes aren't recognized. P.S I have a 60gb linux partition for ubantoo gnome

>>57036203
don't fucking pin this on me
I fucking swear kde is messing shit up

>>57033924


Dear /fglt/

I am into video games, owning a huge steam library. Not all of the games I own are linux compatible or not available on steamOS.

Can you please tell me what the benefits are for someone who uses a computer much more for gaming, (mmo's, high-end games, modifications) than someone who doesn't?

I own a netbook, a samsung galaxy tab, a laptop and a (broken) desktop and another (fixed) low end office dell computer. What would suggest throwing into the fire and going all-in on a linux build.

I've used Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu (netbook)

I know, babbys first distro. I'm willing to go all in with linux, I just don't know what I will get out of it.

Thanks for reading anon.

>>57036232
>Because it can be built 100% for the server's specific needs with every little thing being optimized for its combination of hardware and software, on top of being as stable as it needs to be for any given purpose. Gentoo is a great choice for a server.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Gentoo is shit for servers which is why nobody uses it for that purpose.

>>57036254
Interesting. IS there a guide or something that I could follow?

My biggest percieved benefit of KDE is the file picker and if I can't get it in Chrome or FF, KDE is useless to me.

Glad to see I've got some fans XD

>>57036217
kek I saw you in a smart phone thread hahaha

Alright: Firefox is a gtk application, it will call for the gtk file chooser so installing KDE is not going to solve the problem

However if you have things like konqueror installed, chromium and Qupzilla will give you KDialog

>Is it possible to get the KDE file picker for GNOME applications so I can see thumbnail previews of pictures?
Not universally, no. There used to be a firefox patch and an addon called kmozilla helper but they are not maintained anymore afaik

Why are name/tripfags so annoying. ;_;

>>57036236
is that a man or a woman? I honestly can't tell. I'm leaning towards 55% female.

>>57036278
I don't think it's KDE, you did something retarded

>>57036299
see >>57035796

>>57036299
newfags without sense for culture
reddit
attention whores
other mental issues
pick one

>>57036252
No, it's actually really bad. Someone posted that gnome would stop it, so I'm installing it right now. I'm on mate right now.

>>57036316
>gnome would stop
wayland*

>>57036298
>chromium
Okay... so only Chromium is supported? Is there a (patched?) version of it anywhere that is guaranteed to work with KDE file picker?

>>57036316
Jump out of your window, it will fix screen tearing.

>>57036299
meh, really depends. Most trip+namefags are desperate. I just got bored and decided to use a name to be identified as a certified "I have no idea of what the fuck I'm saying" person

>>57036327
Native chromium takes the KDialog so you don't need any patches. Make sure you installed konqueror first

>>57036340
No, it's so bad. I was watching neflix after putting it on my t420 (ha ha) and all I could think was "Is this the best that Linux has to offer?"

>>57036324
>wayland
>buggy betaware, which basically has nothing to do with screen tearing problems will fix your screen tearing
You have no idea how things work, don't you?

>>57036345
all right! I'll try that after I eat something and get back from a jog.

ps: why doesn't Chrome support it if Chromium does?

>>57036340
R-Rude
>>57036316
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468&p=12644745#post12644745

>>57034088
>Server usage
Are you a a fucking mong?

>>57036376
You do?
https://iwf1.com/finally-nvidia-tearing-issue-fix-found/
>>57036378
Chrome might support it, idk

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Can you suggest me some app like wifi analyzer for android?
I see people are suggesting kismet, but is there anything better?

In room with room mate:
> Room mate raging about Windows 10
> From what I see he is playing a game or whatever.
> Starts talking to himself as usual, talking about how Windows sucks, but he has all his gaymes so he would never touch Linux
> Talking so tech illeterate saying how "Windows should come with Windows"
> Never hear more autism in my life
> Please come RMS you are the only hope for this generation

>>57036376
X server is out-dated, ill-suitable for today's graphics hardware and basically all the direct video card communication is done as an extension ("patch") over the ancient bloated core. The X server provides no builtin means of synchronization between user rendering the window and the screen displaying a window, so the content changes in the middle of rendering. This is one of the well-known issues of the X server (it has many, the entire model of what the server does and is outdated - event handling in subwindows, metadata about windows, graphical primitives for direct drawing...). Widget toolkits mostly want to gloss over all this, but tearing is still a problem because there is no mechanism to handle that. Additional problems arise when you have multiple cards that require different drivers, and on top of all this, opengl library has a hard-wired dependency on xlib, so you can't really use it independently without going through X.

Wayland, which is somewhat unenthusiastically trying to replace X, supports a pedantic vsync synchronization in its core, and is advertised to have every frame exactly perfect.

If you quickly google wayland video tearing you'll find more information on everything.

>>57036291
>nobody
But that's wrong, anon. Gentoo is popular on highly specialized servers. Even though this alone is something of a niche, there are corporations that use it for (some of) their servers.

While it's true that it's not the most common choice, and for good reason as RHEL/CentOS are both more than good enough for general purpose servers, saying that no one uses it is false.

>>57036292
I'm sure there is, but I'm not going to look it up for you. I've told you what you need to do, I'm not going to spoonfeed your ass.
Alternatively, install OpenSUSE with KDE. Then you'll also get a better distro while you're at it, win/win situation.

>>57036408
kek rhel, centos or ubuntu

>>57036169
someone please, give a little break from shit posting and help out
what to do on hard drive failure?
I thought they weren't supposed to happen all out of nowhere
any way to recover data?

>>57036436
I didnt mean to greentext the last two lines

>>57036458
Exactly what did you miss? You can install your DE and applications in one package. Or did your file system fail?

>>57036444
>But that's wrong, anon. Gentoo is popular on highly specialized servers. Even though this alone is something of a niche, there are corporations that use it for (some of) their servers.
>While it's true that it's not the most common choice, and for good reason as RHEL/CentOS are both more than good enough for general purpose servers, saying that no one uses it is false.

You're right I exaggerated.

>>57036458
use a recovery service. they will save what they can.

This is a bad thread.

>>57036476
for system failing to mount for partitions in drive
>>57036502
what service? do you mean paid technician service?

>>57036535
this is a bad post

>>57036550
>failing to mount for partitions in drive
Yup, your file system got fucked

>>57036535
agreed, too many bad advices and memes
this thread turned into complete satire

>>57036286

Just raising everyones awareness to this post.

>>57036593
Too many KDE Shills.

>>57036593
give me nice answer anon pls
>>57036435

who /xfce/ here

>>57036640
>using a de
git gut senpai

>>57036657
>He uses a display manager
kek newfag

>>57036659
server*

>>57036669
os*

>>57036674
computer*

>>57036669
cunt*

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>>57036640

>>57036701
why are people so obsessed with trash bins?
what the hell? clean up your desktop faggot

>plymouth
Who comes up with this literal bloat?

>>57036715
lol, i just checked and there were like 2 gigs of trash, 431 item

>>57036753
For saving disposable files bookmark your /tmp

>>57033924
Hey guys I finished installing Xubuntu last night, but when I woke up and started it up it gets stuck at boot with the message:

/dev/sda6: clean, somenumbers files, somenumbers blocks

What should I do?

>>57036793
reboot

>>57036811
That's the problem, it always gets stuck there.

>>57036793
Is sda6 really your root?

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gnu-netcat, netcat, netcat6, or ncat supplied with nmap?

>>57036851
Yes, I remember when I selected the option to install it alongside Windows, sda6 is like the main partition, and sda7 the swap.

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>sudo pacman -S eclipse-java
>y
>click on program
>pic
Am I missing something? I don't know what's going on since I've only ever coded in windows and I'm fairly certain that everything was bundled.

>>57036849
Long press Cntrl+C

>>57036862
the openbsd one

>>57036879

jre jdk?

>>57036879
>java

Grab a calf and a sacrificial knife. You'll also need some candles.

>>57036895
>I have no idea what I'm talking about

>>57036901
I go to Oracle's website and there is detailed instructions on how to install the .tar yet I cannot seem to find a link on the page to get the .tar

anyone pls share that greentext image about arch user and windows 10 user?

>>57036974
pacman -S jdk7-openjdk

it should install jre along

>>57037012
still getting the error window even after reinstall.

On a separate note I installed something from a .sh, but I botched the install location. How do I uninstall it if it was installed by .sh?

>>57037189
You figure out where it went and remove it manually.

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I want to be able to translate locally, without the need for Internet connection. Is there any good translator for this purpose? Not depending on Google Translate would be good, too.

>>57037240
I found it, so just right clicking it and picking delete will do the trick?

>>57033924
WTF does this image is trying to mean? Not the text, the whole image. Why the airplanes are making sex?

>>57037277
Yeah it probably just cp'd some files, unless it did some other weird funky permissions things. Check the script by opening it in a text editor, it will tell you what it did.

>>57037332
I simply deleted it, and it was removed allowing me to correctly reinstall. Thanks for the help, man.

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Is there a way to list all available kernel modules? lsmod seems just to list enabled modules.

>>57037354
>let's pretend we're 1337 and speak clingon nippon

>>57037370
ls -R /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel

>>57037436
Thanks, that helps.

>>57037370
modprobe[TAB]

>>57037276
i have no idea if you could jerry rig it to work on linux could be a start https://support.google.com/translate/answer/6142473?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en&oco=0

>>57037354
dark army pls

>>57037370

modprobe --list | sed 's,.*/\(.*\)\.ko,\1,' | sort

>>57037652
>modprobe --list
Version 23 of kmod modprobe doesn't have --list here.

>>57037686
fuck off already cancerous tripjew

>>57037737
>post hidden

>>57037686
Filtered. :^)

>>57037686
Doesn't work for me also.

>>57037737
Calm down.

>>57037768
Oh, I'm using a custom modprobe with legacy settings. From the manpage:

       -l --list List  all  modules  matching the given wildcard (or "*" if no wildcard is given).
                 This option is provided for backwards compatibility and may go  away  in  future:
                 see find(1) and basename(1) for a more flexible alternative.

Seems they removed it in vanilla. Sorry guys!

>>57037293
Because embraers look like miniature or baby B 737 or A320

Look up embraer 175

I'm a noob at Linux. Is Debian a good choice?

pls no bully

>>57037803
Embra means female in Spanish I think that has something to do with it.

>>57037804
yes

>>57037804
Depends on what you want. If you want to spend some moments to set up Debian, it's a good choice, otherwise use Ubuntu, which just werks™ and switch later.

>>57037823
Please stop recommending Mint. Read this: https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

>>57037835
mints fine calm down

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>>57037823
beginner friendly != user friendly

>>57037840
No it isn't, Read.

>>57037804
If you're using Linux for the first time just use Ubuntu which is based on Debian but more beginner friendly.

>>57037851
>briefly

>>57037804
No, get ubuntu

>>57037865
Holy shit, read more than the title faggot.

>>57034151
Trisquel

>>57037873
it reads like a bunch of arch users shilling desu

>>57037901
Well, it's not FUD at all,

One of the highjacked packages:
https://github.com/linuxmint/mdm

The package blacklist: https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

([4] and [5] are considered "dangerous" and will never get any updates)

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Trying MATE for the first time, really enjoying it. Any ricing tips/advice?

>>57037950
>Any ricing tips/advice?
Set it up as you like.

>>57037792
>Oh, I'm using a custom modprobe with legacy settings. From the manpage:

This is autism speak for I use Debian.

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>>57035801
>posts to a Canadian maple syurp logging forum that uses google captcha
I said you can use captcha without nonfree javascript in the very post you replied to.

Here's a screenshot in GNU IceCat, the freedom browser, for proof.

>>57038034
>takes 3 hours to respond
>completely misses the point
>google captcha

>>57038034
>but muh free software

holy shit, you are such a fag.

>>57038007
I'm using Debian and I don't have that.

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>>57038055
>takes 3 hours to respond
It's not like I was cooking up my response for 3 hours, I just wasn't at my PC or 4chan.
>completely misses the point
Spell it out for me, then.
>google captcha
I'm using it without javascript. What's the problem?

>>57038057
Free software is good: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Proprietary software is bad: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

So I minimize on proprietary shit. Simple as that.

>>57038034
>GNU/Apps
:D

>>57038130
If you're willing to use google services then you're not a true champion of muh freedoms. At the point who the hell cares about proprietary drivers.

>>57038230
>If you're willing to use google services then you're not a true champion of muh freedoms
Google services aren't inherently unethical or nonfree. Most of the things they make are proprietary to some extent. Lots of things are also licensed as free software. I've not found any evidence of them being caught doing anything unethical (besides promoting/making/maintaining any proprietary software), even after lots of looking.

The Google service I'm using, reCAPTCHA, is licensed under a free license (the modified BSD license) and isn't running any nonfree software on my machine because it isn't making use of obfuscated javascript. So fuck off with your "Google = evil" non-argument.

>>57035288
>>57035322
It literally in plain text, no cipher required, tells you what you need to do and where to find the information regarding your issue

So does anyone know why I can't edit my Openbox menus? I try to change things through obmenu but nothing saves. Tried running it as root, opening the normal one, and changing it, but I can't change anything. Help, I wanna use Openbox as my main WM

>>57038881
>sudo
It would create it within /root
check there and move it to your profile and try again

How would i setup a series of scripts that execute based on the presence of files in that folder
trying to automate some audio/video menial work.
Folder1: Exec script 1 when X is put in the folder > output X to folder2
Folder2: Exec script 2 when X is in the folder > out to folder 3
Folder3: Final folder in the chain. X is finished being manipulated and is in the output folder

>>57036732

http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Plymouth_is_not_a_bootsplash/

Should I install Linux Ultimate Edition?

>>57037803
proud Brazilian Embraer creator
not that there's anything else good, but at least that

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>>57036458
still help
how to proceed on a hard drive failure?
it's there any cautions I can take?
is there anything I can do on the software side?

>>57033924
What is the nice tiling wm people always use with spacing in between the tiles?

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>>57040127
Mostly bspwm, i3 (gaps mod), awesome (lain mod), and dwm, but there are a lot more. Here's a nice overview: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_tiling_window_managers

That said, there are programs like pytyle etc that you can run in addition to your current WM.

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Anyone know of any tips/troubleshooting cheatsheets on what to do when something goes wrong wiht Linux?

For example, the other day, my computer just froze. I had to hit reset button to reboot. What should have I done instead?

Another time I booted to black screen. No DE, no splash. Had to hit reset again.

Do you guys keep some kind of a USB key to boot into Linux when shit hits the fan? Which one? Is there like a recovery distro like there is for Windblows?

Please share some tips with a noob.

Is remote desktop good on Linux?

I believe that I saw a video where a dude was able to start up his laptop and load directly into his desktop's desktop session remotely. Does that work very well nowadays? Would there be issues if, say, I did that and tried to watch a video?

>>57033924
Is OP pic supposed to be funny?

>>57040548

Why would you do that instead of streaming the video to your laptop from your desktop or sharing the directory where the file is and opening it with your media player?

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Every fucking time. I close the thing and it still shows me this when I open a new document. Fucking disgusting

I'm trying to install pepperflashplugin-nonfree but it doesn't work. Something with the google public keys that's can't be checked, no status from google.
I tried a few command lines I found on ubuntu forums but it doesn't work, I still get this error. This is weird.

>>57040459
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

>>57041064
>flash
it's not the 00's anymore, nobody needs flash

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Is there a good expansive mpv ricing guide?
bomi is a buggy piece of trash and I want to achieve comfiness of bomi in mpv: sane on screen controls, some keyboard shortcuts for controlling brightness and stuff, etc.

>have problem with linux
>go to the forums
>just read the wiki page
>mfw I just spent 10 minutes reading it and applying the fixes
Is this the power of loonix community?

>>57041401
Sometimes

>>57036286
Don't use Linux if you want to game, just use windows

>>57041196
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/etc/input.conf

>>57041434
Installing pepper flash is just a pain. I just spent an hour trying to have it install through ubuntu packages. It still doesn't work and I have tried all the google results up to page 7. I probably broke my OS in the process.
I don't think it will ever be the year of linux desktop.

>>57041438
retard

>>57041460
srsly dude, flash is dead, why the hell do you want to install a dead program for the sole purpose of having a bunch of security holes?

>>57041494
I need flash.

>>57041460
>I don't think it will ever be the year of linux desktop
Indeed, unless Linus includes a desktop environment into the kernel.

>>57041502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

>>57041460
>ubuntu
found your problem

>>57041523
>meme
found reddit

>>57041523
It's ubuntu MATE. And it's good, just that stupid flash problem.

>>57040964
Click discard then

>>57041460
>Installing pepper flash is just a pain
sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

>>57041502
>I need flash.
wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add - ; sudo sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list' ; sudo apt update && sudo apt install google-chrome-stable

Or

sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras

0/10

>>57041563
>sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
That's how I installed it. It threw me a public key error from google (pepperflashplugin-nonfree is just a downloader for pepper flash).

I just used :

>wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add - ; sudo sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list' ; sudo apt update && sudo apt install google-chrome-stable
And it installs chrome... Well, I don't want this google crap, I'm up for a full reinstall.

>>57041609
>That's how I installed it. It threw me a public key error from google (pepperflashplugin-nonfree is just a downloader for pepper flash).
user0@primary:~$ sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[sudo] password for user0:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version (1.8.2ubuntu1).
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done

>>57041637
It's just the downloader, once the package is installed it is supposed to go to google repositories to get pepper flash. The problem was when it did that it couldn't find a public key or whatever and it aborted the installation.

This post here >>57041563 fixed the key problem it seems (no I have google repo public keys) but it installed flash automatically so now my system is tainted with google smear.

>>57041401

And troubleshooting Windows is different?
Actually it is. A bunch of 13 year old recommend you to run some shady EXE to "clean your registry".

>>57041661
Oh well, it didn't even work, still have

>ERROR: failed to retrieve status information from google : W: Erreur de GPG:http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable
>W: The repository 'http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release' is not signed.
blablabla

Well. I'll just boot on windows for a while.

>>57041694
>And troubleshooting Windows is different?

>be on windows
>want to install pepper flash
>go to adobe website
>download file and click
>it works

>be on linux
>want to install pepper flash
>have to allow proprietary repositories
>sudo apt-get pepperflashplugin-nonfree
>error
>spend an hour troubleshooting it
>try all the related solution of people who have the same problem
>still doesn't work
>ask to the community
>u dun need flash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>57041694
>run some shady EXE
where is your sense of adventure. Get out no fun.

>>57041736
Yeah.

The difference between Windows and Linux though, is that you have to break Linux in order to learn how it works. You learn little other than "don't fucking pirate shit or download random stuff you mongrel" on windows

>>57041736

One time I installed a package from the Arch User Repository. It was practically the same.

>>57041791
You're lucky to have a working computer.
We can't afford to lose that multi-million dollar server you're also using for personal use.

Previous thread: >>57042142

>>57041723
pepper flash? are you retard?
besides it's full of malware anyway