/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>57004636
I dig. What if i said fuck my price range and got an i7 processor and an 8gb graphics card?

>>57005482
Guess you get better hardware.. then?

>>57004982
>Building right side up

>>57005482
i7 would be a waste of money. Get a decent i5 instead and use the leftover money to buy a SSD instead. Combine that with a rx 470/480 and you have a pretty decent midrange build. Might also want to throw 20-30 dollars into a processor cooler too.

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>>57004982
Bought NBA 2k17 today and realized my PC is due for a overhaul when i could only run smooth fps on all low settings

Current specs

>athlon ii x4 640
>biostar a860 am3
>16gb ram
>Radeon HD 6670

My monitor is 1360x768

What's the most cost effective way to be able to play 2k17? Is just dropping in a rx 470 an option or will my cpu hold it back?

>>57005554
>athlon II
>1360x768
Fucking hell just get a new PC and monitor, that shit is ancient.

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I built a new PC today and I watched Trump DEMOLISH HILLARY today on it

it was glorious

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>>57005573

I feared as much, thanks anon, ill have to wait for my next free check

>>57005554
Getting a rx 470 should be a decent upgrade on its own, you shouldn't need a new processor. But if you decide to buy one then that'll mean buying a new motherboard to, probably even new ram sticks too.

>>57005613
What do you tink is or will be your budget?

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just wanted to say quick thanks to ppl in this thread. been lurking and taking notes and asking questions and I've eliminated major problem I had: heat.

my CPU would go over 50C when browsing and playing music and would go to 80+ when doing ffmpeg encoding.

after working on my cooling, i'm now in comfy low 30s when playing videos and playing music... and in 40s when encoding. and it's now very quiet.

my next project will be managing cables... its' a fucking mess. any tips on how to do cable management? I have so many fucking wires that I've stacked in the space between the DVD burner and the HDD... which is probably not a good thing.

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>>57005606
>tfw making a $1400 sacrificial offering to KEK to make america great again

>>57005657

Probably 225 - 250 for cpu and mobo

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I made this thing back around 2012 and its been humming along just fine, but Its starting to have its drawbacks. I am looking for simply better performance in gaming (I play a good deal of Arma3) and run a second monitor full time. I haven't been in the tech world for at least 3 years, what would be a meaningful upgrade? What would other gaming anons recommend?

>>57005734
Ok that's extremely limited. In that case just do what >>57005625 said and get a new GPU.
If you don't play newer or more demanding games you should manage with the Athlon CPU and focus on upgrading your graphics.
Look into the RX cards and 1060. For example you could get this card if your PSU knows how to feed it:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/f9cMnQ/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-4gb-nitro-4g-video-card-11260-02

>>57005659
There's nothing special about it, just a bunch of zip ties and some time. Might be easiest to just pull them all out and place them back one by one rather than trying to untangle them as is. You probably won't see any difference in temperatures but it'll be aesthetically pleasing.

Anyone have any idea which aftermarket gtx 1080 is the best?

>>57005827

Cheers lad, sounds reasonable.

>>57005870
No problem, just check for compatibility and if your PSU can feed a newer card.

>>57005554
I feel your pain, but slightly less so, I'm running a phenom ii 1090t and an hd 6870. Haven't been playing games as much recently though so for my next build I'm looking at Kaby Lake i7 + SSD and maybe some small form factor case.

>>57005862
Best for what? Best for overclocking? Best value? Best aio cooling?

Asus, MSI and Gigabyte all have really good high-end variants, can't go wrong picking any of those.

>>57005852
>There's nothing special about it, just a bunch of zip ties and some time. Might be easiest to just pull them all out and place them back one by one rather than trying to untangle them as is. You probably won't see any difference in temperatures but it'll be aesthetically pleasing.
thanks. my biggest motivation for tying them up is that I'm afraid one of them might get caught in the fan blades.

>>57005862
the most expensive one

>>57005826
Anyone able to help me with this?

>>57005826
Pretty much just the GPU
if you have a decent cooler on that i5 you can OC it pretty high and keep up with todays stuff well enough

>>57005941
Get a new graphics card and a SSD and it should be fine. 2500k is still surprisingly good if you overclock it, I'd at least wait for Intel's next generation of processors.

>>57005944
>>57005995
Thanks lads, I have a hyper 212 EVO on it but have never OC'd it.
Is there any GPUs in particular that you would choose? Looking in the sub $300 range

>>57006019
rx 470, gtx 1060 6gb, rx 480. Look at prices of those three in your country.

I'm looking for a good case for a small build that I can take to school for the week and bring back home on the weekends (I have a dedicated spot at school with monitors).

I've been eyeing this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6htWGX/silverstone-case-sstml08bh

Any suggestions?

>>57006151
You sure you don't want a laptop bro? Dragging a PC back and forth every week sounds awful.

But it should be easy, just go through mITX cases until you find something that suits you. If you need space for full-sized graphics card then it gets trickier but still it's not that hard.

>>57004903
>Can I get some objective opinions on how important the PSU is?
If a component dies, it dies on its own
If a (shitty) psu dies, it may fry the mobo, maybe ram and even graphic card as well.

is it true that Nvidia has more stable framerates than AMD?

How do I ensure buttery smooth framerates in games for my build? Microstutter and sudden drops drive me crazy.

>>57006283
What kind of monitor are you using? Hardware syncing can help but if you're at 1080p, AMD vs nvidia doesn't matter too much

>>57006239
Haha I just really don't like laptops. Moving a computer isn't too bad if you have everything else already set up at both places and it's only once a week.

I replied to a few posts from the old threads

>>57003848
Don't buy the 960. Logicalincrements has been dragging its ass on graphics cards; or just doesn't understand value but loves 'tiers' even though that they suggest retarded builds.

You want to wait two weeks for the 1050Ti. Buy the 4GB version the moment it comes out (avoiding price hikes) and you'll be fine.

You need an i3 6100. Way better single core performance and you'll have an upgrade path. The 8320 is on AM3+, a dead socket.

Here's a build for you
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=Jhyf7P
You might want to consider buying an OCZ SSD (check other builds for the link). Personally I think SSDs are awesome. You can't live without one once you've had it.

>>57004064
Either get the 1050 or 1050Ti. They're coming out in two weeks. Check the rumor mills. Both the 950 and 960 suck.

>>57004247
As the other anon said, SSD and new video card. 470/480/1060

>>57004760
If you really want to try this wait for a few months for the Zen APUs called Raven Ridge. They'll be fucking awesome. You'll probably get to play a lot of PS3/360 era games without a discrete graphics card at 1080p.

>>57004849
That APU is probably stronger than your dedicated graphics

>>57004869
Yeah, you can drop in a 470. Make sure your PSU has either a 6 pin or 6+2pin PCIe power connector, then buy a card that needs only that. The 470 will probably suffer from the CPU bottleneck, making it partially worthless unless you're considering upgrading your mobo+CPU.

Personally since that's an old CPU I'd get the 1050 or 1050Ti, which as I've stated like 50 times, are coming out in less than 2 weeks. The RX460 is also an option if you have the PCIe power connectors. If your PSU doesn't have those power connectors, you can pop in the 1050 and it'll run without them by drawing all its power through the mobo.

TL;DR Basically get the 1050Ti if you have the money (and any required power connectors), otherwise get the 1050, which are coming out at the middle of this month.

>>57004903
Personally I'd make sure to get an 80+ PSU with x2 6+2pin PCIe power connectors. If you're planning to keep it for a while (through a couple builds) you might consider a Gold PSU.

>>57004954
Swap 1080 for 1070. Don't forget the VR "target" is the 970/290, which are weaker than the 1060 / 470.
If you want a 1440p 144Hz monitor too I'd suggest waiting for the 1080Ti in Jan.

>>57006512
I am updating the guide now. Will be here soon for feedback.

>>57006283
>is it true that Nvidia has more stable framerates than AMD?
Yes, but that's mostly with AMD's old cards on older DX11 games. Now AMD and NVIDIA are neck and neck.

>>57005554
Read what I wrote here >>57006520
>TL;DR Basically get the 1050Ti if you have the money (and any required power connectors), otherwise get the 1050, which are coming out at the middle of this month.

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R8 my budget build.

Re-adjusted my black gray silver theme.

The plan is to eventually upgrade the cpu later down the road to an i5 and get a kraken memecooler when I want to overclock. And at the same time, complete the a e s t h e t i c.


http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDBLyf

And no. I don't need a fucking 240gb SSD. Stop spreading that meme.

Graphics card is a little debatable since a 50 dollar extra investment for a $250 6GB 1060 might be better especially for future proofing and also better performance. So I may change that. Thoughts?

>>57006640
You want your games on the SSD, so 120GB is cramped. If you can't spend an extra $20 to get 240GB, reevaluate your life choices.

If you're going with Nvidia the 6GB 1060 is probably the better option.

I'm building a computer mostly to edit video in premiere, but also for vidya, what do you think of my build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vsgn2R

>>57006640
I'd spend a few bucks more on a non-blower card to get better temps and quieter fans.

If you want to overclock a CPU then you need a Z170 motherboard in addition to a K-branded processor.

>>57006696
I have a habit of uninstalling games when I don't play them for a while so I never have more than 5 at a given time. If absolutely need more space, I'll just buy another one for 30 bucks. The Price difference from a 120 to a 240 is about 25 bucks. May as well buy another when I need it.

It's a cost that is not needed. A cost that I can use for peripherals

>>57006710
>1.1 thousand dollar build
>no SSD

>>57006696
Fuck a 240GB. Go 500 /1Tb or go home.
Bought one and while I'm making due with having 1 or 2 AAA games on it at a time I wish I'd thrown down another 50/60 for the 500Gb

Anyone have experience with the rosewill capstone psu? Are they reliable?

>>57006730
I like the blowers personally. I know it would be ideal to get a non blower but I don't really need it. Temps won't be ridiculous since the case itself has a lot of air flow.

Though I may reconside when I finally make The purchase.
As far as the CPU I definitely do not intend to overclock any time soon. That i3 is a beast right now but I will later once I upgraded to an i5 and a memecooler. ( and a mobo that'll handle it)

>>57006754
I already have a 128gb one, aside from that what would you change?

I have everything planned out but not sure about which model of 1080 to get. Any suggestions?

>>57006852
Founder's edition. Binned as fuck and look sexy.

>>57006800
Well the case is tacky, but if you're fine with that then it's fine. It's otherwise a good build if video editing is your main focus. Downgrading to i5 and using the money on a better graphics card would give you better gayming performance but make it worse for video stuff

>>57006852
Asus rog strix, MSI gaming z or one of those tri-fan gigabytes.

>>57006896
Gaming z? Do you mean x? That''s what I was leaning towards

how does this computer look? not that familiar with prebuilt sites but my sister is retarded and cannot assemble one. price is in CAD since she's in canada.

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1501927

>>57006993
apparently it's not in CAD but ~$1000 USD

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what ASUS mobo model number is this? I like it.

>>57007048
Well it's an Asus ROG Rampage IV Extreme. How many different models of those really exist?

>>57007137
did a quick search to see the price + reviews...

https://www.amazon.com/Rampage-IV-Extreme-Extended-Motherboard/dp/B0061XSBZ6

jesus... those reviews...

>>57007164
That is rough. I'm always inclined to believe amazon reviews are made by retards, as most of the time they truly are, but man, can't ignore that.

I don't think that original poster even knew what he was looking at either. I mean come on, it's an old as fuck chipset board.

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Post from yesterday, about to pull the trigger.

Any problems? What would you do for a new build ~1k tops?

>>57006975
That expensive thing with the red cover, yes. It's pretty good, will allow you to get a decent oc performance out of your card.

>>57007227
I'm waiting for the next gen, set to come out in Jan

>>57007164
I'm still using this board, originally because of the abundance of rear usb and I was running a 3 570's so I wanted something with active cooling so the south bridge wouldn't melt.

You can get much better for much less now. You'd need to update (both) the bios to run recent 2011 cpu's and you shouldn't settle for having sata2 on such an expensive board. Plus it's DDR3 only, no usb3 type c, no dual lan/onboard wireless, no m.2 on board, no sata express or a bunch of other more modern features you'd expect on a workstation board.


TL;DR: It's old and outdated, don't buy.

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>>57007227
real talk, looking to be done with this 860k/380

Need help deciding between motherboards

Asus' Z170-A https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170-A/

Gigabyte's Z170x Ultra Gaming
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5808#ov

The color theme is gonna be white n blue so the gb's red leds are irrelevant

>>57007274
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZJkcf/gigabyte-ga-z170x-ud3-ultra-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-z170x-ud3-ultra

>>57007274
When it comes to deciding between two things, first start by making a mental list of what you think is most important to you, and how well each thing fits that. What do you want most out of a mobo? Looks, cost-effectiveness, overclockability, more/faster RAM, certain features? It's hard to tell you what is gonna be better for you if we have no idea what you want out of it.

That said, pcpp has a good part comparison tool.

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>>57007227
It's a bit over but still close to 1k

Don't resign yourself to getting low quality parts to squeeze in a higher end gpu.
You could buy a cheap 970 now then sell it down the line and pick up a 1070 when black Friday rolls around.

So most of you have been here for quite a while, tell me what it's like on cyber Monday or Black Friday for parts. What websites are the go to's? Throughout the years, any lessons learned? Tips?

>>57007343
I'm this guy >>57006710

This is my build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vsgn2R

From reviews I gather the Asus' one has nice features like voltage protection and clear sound, but the GB has better conectivity with thunderbolt which I'm starting to wonder how useful will it be?

>>57007227
It's fine, personally I'd get a Z170 mobo (if you plan to upgrade the CPU eventually) and 3000MHz RAM
A 2TB HGST HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UM3102206

>>57007383
>You could buy a cheap 970
>320 dollarydoos
>cheap
That's fucking horrible advice. The 970 is worth 175USD new tops

>>57006993
>>57007006
Your paying about $400 too much, but it will be a decent computer. Try to get a 240GB SSD

>>57007889
>Your
Time to sleep.

>>57007383
>Not a FX-8350 with a RX 480, Radeon RAM and an AMD Radeon SSD drive

Anyone using an external USB optical drive?
How's it working out?

Planning to remove mine and ditch it so I can install a HDD/SSD cage and get rid of the 2009 Hitachi/LG ODD thats bugging out on me for whatever reason.

>>57008021
I have a gp40 by LG. I rarely use it now. Just a few times to install office 2007 and to burn a cd a while back for my dad. Apprently it would only work ok win7 but it worked fine on my laptop with 8.1 when I put office on that.

>>57008140
*Apparently

>>57008140
Ah, thanks!

I'm currently running a i5 3570k and a 660 ti.

Would it be worth it to upgrade the CPU at this point? I'm eyeing a 1060 3gb as an upgrade since I only play games at 1080.

>>57008216
You should be fine with a that i5 for few years. Go ahead and buy a new graphics card, 1060 is a huge upgrade over 660ti.

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Can you recommend a low end gpu for me?

My specs are :
Core2Duo E4500 @ 2.2 Ghz,
2 GB DDR2 533 Mhz RAM,
1280x1024 @60 Hz monitor,
Asus P5GZ-MX mobo,
Windows 7 preferred.

My aim is to play NFS MW (2005) at full resolution @60fps and play my other old games (pic related) easily.

I had a few in mind like geforce 210, 710 gt, HD5450, R5 230

>>57008216
I just bought a 1070 because my 660, non ti, was being a total slouch in games and this 1070 is like comparing an ugly fat girl vs your dream qt girl. It makes a shit tonne of difference.

>>57008360
I would save up for a new pc. Buy a used gtx 780 ti maybe, possibly <$100 depending on what country you're from. r9 290's too.

>>57008360
Would a RX 460 be too expensive? Your price range is kind of shit, all of the cards have horrible price per performance and nobody is reviewing them. Try to get a used card for cheap rather than a new one.

>>57008360
You could honestly just buy a 6600k without a gpu and play those games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-9.html

probably any skylake cpu but this was very interesting to see.

>>57008360
I reckon that a used 8800GT or something would be enough

1070 now or wait for the 1080ti, uses include 1440p 60hz gaming, VR gaming & development, and waving my e-peen.

Also is full loop a meme in an mITX case? I've only got room for a 120/140/200mm rad in the front and a 240 on the side. Would a better use of my money be a 1070 and a full loop?

>>57008535
What case? also wait for 1080 ti if you can, what's your current card?

>>57008370
>>57008454
Not very keen on total overhaul of pc as I have zero interest in playing current gen games and the pc easily does full hd video playback and general tasks on integrated graphics.

It lags only on games that I aim to play.

>>57008592
Go on gumtree or whatever your preffered site it, pick a budget and buy whatever card you see. Anything about a 500 series Nvidia and 4xxx series AMD will do just great.

>>57008502
Would HD 5450 be fine? I'm getting it under $50.

>>57008551
Corsair 250d, got a pretty good deal on it. And currently a borrowed 960 to tide me over until I get a new card. I already have the 1440p monitor.

>>57008617
I think you should be alright for now. There's two ways you could go

>Buy a gtx 1070 and do a watercooling loop right now.

>Buy a watercooling loop minus gpu, just cpu loop for now and when the 1080 ti comes out buy a block for it and add it into the loop.

>>57008403
Any advice what to keep in mind and check while buying a used gpu?

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So this is my garbage PC, I'm currently in the process of turning it into something better. Going to be grabbing it piece by piece and at the moment I'm looking at a PSU. I've looked through Logical Increments and was looking at the 'excellent' range and most PSU's there and below are 650W or less, I'm not sure what GPU I'm getting yet, so would it be safer to get something bigger?

>>57008831
Unless you're planning on having two graphics cards in there 500W is good enough you. Even under heavy load it wont drain morea than 400-450W. Get something like Corsair RM550x if you want a good modular PSU.

>>57008831
A high end gaming PC draws about ~300W under full load and ~100W in desktop use. You only need a large PSU if you plan on using SLI or Crossfire both of which are a bad idea.

>>57008854
>>57008862
Thanks heaps guys, I've been wracking my brain for hours over this. I'm total entry level so this is all quite overwhelming. What do you think I should swap out next? I have no idea about my CPU and how it stands up

>>57008912
What sort of setup are you going for? If this is for browsing and stuff then toss that gt 630 in a bin and buy a new CPU with a decent integrated graphics. That'll however mean buying new motherboard and ram too.

>>57008936
Nothing overly powerful, but I would like to get it decent for gaming. I'm not looking to play games at their max setting, but at lead in the higher ranges.

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So I built a PC a couple months ago and now that I've moved into my halls I have discovered that the wiring is so shit that turning on/off the light actually fucks with all of my peripherals - keyboard & mouse & lights will all flicker, stop working, etc.
Worse than that though; I've woken up today to green pixels all over the screen, all over youtube videos, even in video games.
This isn't just a shitty VGA adapter issue, the pixels move with the game perfectly and will often only show up on specific materials or areas - I had the dust 2 B doors covered in little red dots like someone had actually gone into the files and fucked the textures themselves.
Anyone know what could be fucked? I'm guessing the graphics card, but the real question is can I fix it or is it easier to just try to milk my uni for money?

>>57008638
With respect to the loop, would it be better to put a res/pump combo in the 5.25 bay; a res in the 5.25 bay and a pump beneath it; or remove the 5.25 bay entirely and put the pump/res in between the front rad and the mobo tray?

>>57008951
Well then a proper GPU should be your main priority right now. Something along the lines of RX 470 or gtx 1060 6GB. If that is too much then RX 460 is a solid option and gtx 1050 is rumoured to be released to that price range in coming weeks.

A new CPU would be nice too but it's not your main concern right now, you should be able to last a year or two easily with that thing you have. It would mean buying a new motherboard and memory so it's not as money efficient as a new GPU would be.

>>57008980
You cant really fix it, so you'll have to get new parts. The unstable power current has damaged your computer parts, the pixels suggest a damaged graphics card at least. It's your uni's fault for having shoddy wiring so you could try to milk them for money and have them pay for electrican to look at the issue.

At the very least you should invest in a cheap surge protector. If you have more cash then a uninterruptible power supply would protect you too.

>>57009053
The GTX 1060 looks pretty good to me and it's a good price too. Would I need a Cooler at all?

>>57009053
Thanks a lot man, I'll look into getting them to pay for whatever's fucked.
I'm amazed that any wiring could be so fucking awful that it damages the components in my PC

>>57009200
CPU cooler? Well if that picture you posed is idle or normal browsing then 48 celsius is too high in my opinion. I'd suggest something like ID-Cooling SE-214X or Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO if those fit inside your case.

Hard to say anything about airflow and cooling in general without knowing which case you have and how the fans are positioned.

>>57008360
R7 240.sometimes 250s are on sale for under $50 but even a 6450 or r5 230 should be enough to run it maxed.

>>57006584

Thanks mate, ill keep an eye for when it drops, looks like it will be in my price range

>>57009004
I like res/pump combos myself for space saving. It will work nice in that ITX case.

I have a rx 480 8gb nitro
And someone is selling me reference rx480 for 200 usd
Will it work on crossfire? What card should i put on top?

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I have an AMD/HIS 6770, what would be a good upgrade?

Needs to be novidya because CUDA cores.

For comparison it's 850mhz 1gb

Budget is $500 Australia land fun bux

>>57009325
Yes, it'll work just fine. Keep the current one at top, the reference one will run hotter so you want it to get as much air as possible.

>>57009351
1060 3GB, 1060 6GB, 1070. Pick the one you can afford with your monopoly money. If you're considering the 3gb version then you could wait a few weeks to see if 1050ti is better.

>>57009351
rx 480 or gtx 1060 6gb, 3gb is not worth it.

With these cars you have to look at your favorite games and compare benchmarks and see which game gets the highest fps and buy that one.

Example: RX 480 gets 5-10fps more than the gtx 1060 and the gtx 1060 gets more fps in battlefield than the rx 480, etc etc

>>57009405
>>57009351
Oh fuck. I missed another bit. I bought a gtx 1070 from Amazon US for $550 aud incl postage so theres another option for you. I ordered it last monday (3rd oct) and it's arriving tomorrow according to Aus post.

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>>57009421
>>57009405
>>57009381

Thanks, 1060 6gb looks good.

I can't find whether my 6770 is hdmi 1.4 or 2.0.
I'm getting frame stutters in video but only on the tv that's connected.

Tv - hdmi
monitor - dvi

>>57009462
That card was released in 2011 and HDMI 2.0 was released in 2013. So it's definitely 1.4

>>57009497
Thank you,
just realised I'm running it through the 2nd dvi port with an adapter, would that affect it?

>>57009462
Get this 1060 instead:
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FPFXsY/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-ftw-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6368-kr

>>57009518
Why are you using an adapter? Try plugging it into the HDMI port and see if it helps.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzK7wV
amd can still compete

>>57005554
You could try upgrading to a phenom 1090t.but I doubt you'd be able to find one for a decent price. Your best bet is to do a complete new build. If you're tight on money you could run something like an fm2+ system with an 870k. Get a decent aftermarket cooler and clock it to somewhere around 4.5ghz. But you're going to see serious bottlenecks putting a modern card in with that cpu. If you're hell bent on doing as little upgrading as possible, just get an rx 460. It'll be a significant upgrade to your current gpu and only cost you 120$.

Hell a used 7970 or 280x would be a huge upgrade for you. 6670 wasn't even a mainstream card for its time, bud.

Thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9Gv4C

>>57009592
go with premium sli gaming instead
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGfphq

>>57005826
I've seen footage of Arma 3 with a 980ti barely able to get playable framerates on ultra. That game is such a fucking disaster it's not even funny. Most cost effective solution is a new beefy gpu, and a good cooling solution to overclock the piss out of that little i5.

>>57006050
Recently seen some highlights of the xfx rx 480 gtr. To the best of my knowledge it's the only 480 with a custom pcb, runs cool, sips power, overclocks very well, and stock for stock is probably the best performing 480 on the market. It's going to cost upwards to 300USD though. But seen a bench with it clocked at 1475mhz where it performed within 5% of the Sapphire nitro+ fury in firestrike. Fucking bonkers.

>>57006258
This, never cheap out on a psu. Though you also don't need to go full retard and buy a 1kw titanium psu either.

>>57006512
Iirc the apus launching q1 2017 are going to be excavator cores with Polaris gpus, the actual zen apus aren't until late 2017. I could be mistaken, though.

>>57006773
Agreed with a 500gb, though I'd still say throw down 30$ on a 64gb just for your os and core applications.

>>57009642
But y

>>57009592
Switch out the reference card for one from EVGA or Gigabyte and you're good to go.

How is the Corsair RM650i vs Corsair RM550X? Besides the wattage, of course

>>57009311
Is there a downside to res/pump combos, like the res being too small or the pump not being powerful enough? I'm imagining it's be akin to """""GAMING""""" headsets where it's a shitty mic and shitty headphones combined and marketed as the best thing ever, am I wrong?

>>57009798
It's the same PSU under the hood. The only difference is that i models have an USB port, allowing you to connect them to a pc to "configure" them.

>>57009947
So I'd be better off getting a 650X over a 650i? the 650x is $10 cheaper. (only just realized it was in stock)

>>57009970
Yes, there's no difference in RMi and RMx series apart from that usb port. I think even corsair themselves admit this.

>>57007477
Cyber Monday doesn't exist, get your sales on Black Friday or be left with the leftovers
Monitors always go on sale

>>57009825
Any reputable brand will be using a variant of the Laing ddc or d5 pump which are cream of the crop small form factor industrial grade pumps. Reservoirs are primarily an asthetics deal, they also have the benefit of easier filling, usually an extra outlet for draining, and increasing the loops thermal capacity. But it doesn't really matter what size it is. People used to make loops with just a stretch of extra hose that worked identically to an actual res.

>>57010002
Ah thats why you can adjust the fan speed and whatnot, I see now. How does Corsair fair against EVGA PSUs? The EVGA superNOVA G2 750W is the same price as the 650i

>>57010222
Corsair one is quieter and has a 0 RPM mode which means the fan will only start spinning at 40% load. So if you're willing to pay extra for less noise then go for corsair.

>>57010222
Personally not a fan of evga power supplies. Consider the fact that they charge a fair premium for their motherboards and gpus. Yet their power supplies all seem to be so 'competetively' priced.

What price are you looking at anyways?

>>57010272
>>57010282
Thanks guys, I've got no clue what I'm doing so your help is appreciated haha.

Around the $150- $180 mark

>>57010222
I've always used Corsair PSU's, love em. Quiet and work like a charm, have one in my PC for over 4 years now and still works like a charm

>>57010304
Burger bucks, or what? That's a lot for a psu, man.

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIABP94H11610

Check that one out, server grade components. Semi fan less like the corsair, over built for its rating. 90$ after shipping and rebate. 650w is 10 $ cheaper. Corsairs are a perfectly fine choice, though.

Should I shell out on a NEC or Eizo monitor? What makes them better(and so expensive)?

Finally ordered a GTX1070. Had to settle for that since I had to change everything else aswell. My mobo was old and figured, fuck it. Lets burn 1700euros on the bitch. Obviously my case, casefans and HDD/SSD remain.
Got a G-sync monitor earlier this year, so now my setup is finally complete!
Thanks to some help from you folks, thanks a bunch!

>>57010304
Don't sink that much money into a PSU unless you really need the extra watts for some crazy build. Corsair RM550x is high quality, nearly silent and it's more than enough for any single-GPU build. Extra money will not give you a single additional fps or anything like that. Spend it on better processor or graphics card.

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About to pull the trigger for this set of parts soon.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dkzvRG

Opinions, love, hate? The PC will be used mostly for games, but also for some programming, hence the 1440p screen. I just had to adjust the graphics card to match up the resolution.

>>57011223
Get LPX 3000 RAM and smaller PSU, unless you want future upgrades / SLI.Otherwise you're good.

>>57011223
Just a few adjustments:
1. You're going kinda overkill with the PSU, 550 watts is more than enough. Get the Corsair RM550x, gold rated and gives you more than enough juice
2. Get 3000 RAM, Corsair Vengeance LPX has a nice price on it for 2x8
3. You shouldn't buy windows from retail stores. You can get a key for cheap from Kinguin

Other than that the build looks solid. Good picks anon.

>>57005862
EVGA FTW

>>57005911
Least coil whine and best oc

>>57011415
If you really want the best OC then either Gigabyte or the ARMOR edition that MSI has.

>>57011415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdPQ5GRXZi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aXwzdFmhwU
Might want to check these videos out.

>coil whine
Just RMA it as soon as possible if you hear any.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfjGkT
Anything I should be particularly concerned about? I'm going to replace the case fans in the future.

>>57011278
I shall look into the RAM, thanks.

>>57011335
>You shouldn't buy windows from retail stores. You can get a key for cheap from Kinguin
Oh yeah, I didn't mention that I'm indeed planning to buy the key from Kinguin instead of a retail price. The one in the list is basically a placeholder.

>>57011719
If you want to minmax it further then
>m.2 SSD like Samsung 950 would be faster but more expensive too
>Get a WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda HDD, they're slightly more reliable. Not a huge difference though and all drives can break down at any moment.
>Corsair RM550x would be quieter PSU
But that setup you linked is really good as it is, just go and buy it if you want to.

>>57011790
>Get a WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda HDD, they're slightly more reliable
Citation needed.
Memes aside, this is an honest question. HGST makes excellent but stupidly expensive HDDs and i don't feel like spending 200€ on a 2-4TB drive.
My options are WD Blue, Seagate Barracuda, Toshiba P300 and HGST 7K300 with various storage options from 1 to 4 TB.

I agreed to buy a Craigslist Gtx970 SC for $180. How'd I do? I see new 4gb 960s st the same price. It's either that or a 1060 -3gb.

>>57012167
Just returned a WD Blue 1TB as it kept unallocating the ENTIRE DAMN DRIVE every single time I restart

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I wanted to say thanks for all advices I got in this thread, so I could complete new PC. With old OS, to be honest, but after some working, everything runs as it should. Im kinda paranoid and /g/ made me too much worry about Win 10. At least for now.

Thanks again!

>>57012452

Funny, I use three 1tb WD Blue drives since whole year and no problems so far.

>>57012488
You just got lucky, I guess. Every other Blue's either unallocated or dead

>>57012458

Also, no idea why, but Speccy cant read the type of my RAM. They are Crucial DDR4 with 2400 Mhz, but it keep showing it as "unknown" with 1200 Mhz.

I checked bios and it correctly reads type and frequency.

>>57012452
Well, that's all good and that, but i'd like a real source. Personally i find it hard to find any recent source on 1-4TB 3.5" HDDs that is reliable.

>finally build my new computer
>start downloading 500GB of Steam games before I go to bed
>hard drive shits out
>figure since I don't have anything I can get arrested for RMA it
>new hard drive arrives
>download 500GB of Steam games
>forget I have a 1TB a month bandwidth limit

gud

>>57012503
I've been using WD Blacks for all my builds. Never had one fail on me so far.

>>57012458
What case is that?

Is Zen gonna support NVMe? or is it jewtel exclusive?

>>57013087

Corsair 200R. Pretty nice, i must say - bigger than others I had before, despite being mid-tower.

>>57013122
Did you even try to use Google?

>>57013599
did you?

>>57013680
No, because I don't care whether or not they are going to support NVMe and this PC Building General, not I'm too Fucking Lazy to Use Google General.

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>no one having CM Storm Stryker as pc case.

>>57013763
Thats your problem, you could have answered my question if you did you fucking sperg.

>>57013795
How is it my problem that I didn't answer your question? It has literally no affect on me.
You could have answered your own question by now, but I guess you sure showed me.

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>>57013792
It's too flashy in my opinion. I prefer a bit more down to earth cases, for example many of Fractal's models are quite nice.

>>57013886
Simple cases are nice too. I just like the way the Stryker looks though.

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>>57013792
>buying hideous gaymer cases instead of cute matx beauties
Why would anyone do that? Just look at this beauty.

>>57014088
Dude, you're getting a Dell (Optiplex lookalike)

has anyone ever worked with this case? is it a decent choice? I like the integrated handle and the inclusion of a 90 deg. riser card, but I'd like to actually be, y'know, portable-sized.

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>>57014312
forgot pic

Hey guys what video card should I pick up as a replacement for my Evga Gtx 570 from my 5 year old build -> MB: P8P67 CPU: i7 2600k PSU: 750W Antec 8GB Ram Kingston

Right now I'm divided between those:
ASUS Radeon R7 250 OC 2GB
MSI Radeon RX 460 OC 2GB

EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB
ASUS GeForce GTX 950 STRIX OC 2GB

which of those would give me the most bang for my buck? I'm kinda in a budget and the 950 is the most expensive one I could buy I guess.

Also talking VRAM I plan on playing in low resolutions because all I have is an old CRT monitor, do I really need 2gb or I could go for 1gb no problem?

Thanks

>>57014484
If you could somehow fork up enough for the 1060, it would be a very solid card for you. Its only like $200 for the 3gb model.

>>57014543
Hey, thanks for the answer but the 1060 is too expensive for me, also wouldn't a card like that in my system be bottle necked by the other old components?

Just got me a used Dell XPS pc for 200 bucks, it comes with an i7 4770 (non k)

Is this a good deal? I could upgrade my current pc from an FX 8320, but the mobo that comes with the Dell pc is shit.

What would you guys suggest?

>>57014484
Find a used 2gb 960 for like $125

>>57014708
on a side note, can I take out the 4770 and put it in a new mobo without any problems? I know this sounds stupid asf, but im just being a little paranoid.

>>57014822
Not really an option here where I live.

It's Brazil btw.

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After seeing [email protected]" on my laptop I have decided to upgrade my desktop monitor. The ppi is glorious. I want 4k but I'm not willing to buy a 1080 because it's insufficient for 4k honestly. I want 4k for desktop use(I'm not gaming probably 4 or 5 hours a day) and for wow, maybe even overwatch on my 1060@2hz. Am I going to regret it? I think I'll buy the 4k now and a 1080p 144hz in a month or two. Then a new GPU next march, hopefully Vega or the new nvidia stuff can handle it.

Current build is i3 6100/2133 ddr4/1060. Upgrading to a 6700k(higher clocks than 6600k so I don't have to buy a z170, i5+z170 is the same price as the i7) and using it in my b150 board for now.

>>57014708
>>57014844
Yeah you can just get a new mobo. Did you buy the XPS just for the CPU?

>>57014484
You really need 2GB. Get the 1050 or 1050Ti coming out in two weeks.

>>57012514
Speccy shows half the data rate.

>>57012305
You got ripped off. Should have gotten the 3GB 1060 or better yet the 4GB 470.

>>57012167
You can get a 7200RPM 2TB HGST for $50

>>57011719
It's fine but expensive. You probably don't need all that CPU or graphics

>>57009649
>Iirc the apus launching q1 2017 are going to be excavator cores with Polaris gpus, the actual zen apus aren't until late 2017. I could be mistaken, though.
The ones that just came out are the last ones on the Excavator/Bulldozer/Vishera type arch. The next release will be based on Zen (and Vega, if currytech is correct).

>>57015192
>Yeah you can just get a new mobo. Did you buy the XPS just for the CPU?

Yes, but will scrap the rest of the stuff that came with it, like the soundcard, the wifi shit, optical drive ect

>>57015192
Hey bro, thanks for the answer but the 1050 will be out of my league I'm thinking more about those I said in my post, what would you think it would give me the most bang for my buck?

I'm thinking about getting a 1080 to go with my 3440x1440 100hz monitor, which brand would be the best bet?

MSI or EVGA?

>>57015333
I personally love the MSI one because of the design, coolers and great integration with MSI afterburner but truly both are really good so just go with the one you prefer.

>>57015192
>You can get a 7200RPM 2TB HGST
Those are NOT the drives that were tested in that meme blog however. Those are regular Hitachi drives.

>>57004982
I have a Samsung M2 SSD but my motherboard doesn't have a M2 connector. Also I don't think my processor supports a board with M2. Should I just use a PCIe adapter?

>>57015428
Return the m.2 drive or get a new mobo

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Looking for advice on what CPU/mobo to get, and if you notice anything else weird or off, feel free to let me know.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4h7wV

I use Photoshop, Ableton, and Audacity a lot, watch BD rips of chinese cartoons in MPC, and plan to use Premier in the future. I don't vidya too much right now but may get back into it in the future (so I'm also stuck between the 970 and the 1070).

I'm not too bothered about futureproofing with Skylake shit since I'm adamant on running Win7 and I know the best benchmark results will be on Win10 and Win7 might eventually be phased out, so I'm more or less just looking for the best I can buy right now without getting into Xenon territory.

Specifically am looking between the 5820K, 6600K, and 6700K, but if there's anything better than those three for my purposes, I'm open to suggestions.

>>57015428
You can but you should just keep it and let it sit in the shelf as punishment for not checking compatibility

You are all fucking idiots. Buy used i7 optiplex/precision, buy gtx 1070, buy ssd, done.

Much better price to performance than anything you can build from parts alone.

>>57015465
no point in buying a 970 at that price. either get something cheaper like a 1060 or AMD 470/460 or get a decent card like 480 or 1070.

also tweaked some other stuff like RAM and cooler.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8zZQV

as to 6800k vs 5820k you'll have to look at benchmarks for the programs you use yourself. also check if your programs have gpu acceleration or not that could also help you choose.

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I'm in dire need of a new mouse, and this one looks pretty comfy.

does anyone in here use this?

>>57015192
>You can get a 7200RPM 2TB HGST for $50
I know, but have no idea how good their cheaper ones are compared to other HDDs.
The only HGST available is the 7K3000.

what's the biggest mouse ever for my Sasquatch hands

>>57015897
Thanks. Regarding the 970's price, I wouldn't go by their figures - I can find one for a little under $200 used. Would you say it's still not worth it in that case?

>>57016146
Sounds alright, but remember you're buying old tech with less features, no warranty, is slightly hotter and uses more power. If you think saving $150 is worth the compromise, go for it.

The 970 is almost as good as the 1060 which costs about $250 for the 6GB version.

>>57015296
>the 1050 will be out of my league
It'll be $120. I don't see how that's out of your league.

>>57015398
>Those are NOT the drives that were tested in that meme blog however.
They are, or they're really close. Regardless, HGST has much better reliability across ALL their drives
Here is an example of a $110 4TB that was tested
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD4DP0316

>>57015465
Ridiculous choice of graphics. The 3GB 1060 is better than the 3.5 meme, not meming.

>>57015981
HGST manufactures reliable HDDs in general

>>57016146
Not worth it. Like I said, the 3GB 1060 is better than the 970 for $200 new.

>>57016300
I found a 970 for $180, and the $20 saved is buying me a cpu cooler. I was going to use my friend's stock Intel cooler.

>>57016593
If your budget is high enough to get an i7 you can spend another $100 to get a decent cooler and better GPU. If not you might aswell get a $100 GPU and use that until you decide to get a gaming GPU

>>57016638
6600k but I get your point.

My PC is getting old and loud, nd my gfx card just shit the bed.

I mainly use it for browing and gaming - mainly cs:go and smash bros melee neytplay but I also fuck around with music production with Ableton Live and also editing videos in Adobe Premier and editing images in Photoshop. Also want to start streaming because I saw a melee tourney and now want to be mang0

I have a decent power supply, dvd-rw, kb/mouse and alright monitor.

I need : -
A case with good front panel ideally, nothing fancy, budget ideally
mobo
CPU
graphics card
SSD for windows/apps. I have 64ish gig SSD that is constantly full that I could now use use just for games and a decent HDD for storage.

I'm totally out of the loop with architecture e.t.c.

IN THE UK

Budget is £300-500 brexits dependent on whats worth it.

Currently running an Intel Core i5-200K 3.3 with the now dead Radeon HD 6870

Advice on mobo/cpu arhcitecture and mid gfx?

I recently got an XFX 470 4gb and i5 6600, how I did it? My budget was kinda limited

>>57016849
>I have a decent power supply
mkay....
>case with good front panel
define "good front panel"
>mobo
msi gaming m3
>cpu
i5 6500k
>gpu
480 or 1060
>SSD
intel 540, samsung 850 or OCZ/Toshiba

>Budget is £300-500 brexits dependent on whats worth it.
>Currently running an Intel Core i5-2500K
also you will need new RAM aswell because latest architecture uses DDR4.
and it will be hard to stay within your budget.
you should just OC the fuck out of the CPU and get a better GPU.

go to pcpartpicker and make a list.

>>57016893
>asking after he already bought it
stop doing it

but you fucked up, you should have saved up more money and gotten the 480.

>>57016983
I know, as I told my budget was limited, besides the difference is not that big and will only use 1080p, no 4k or 1440p intended

>>57017047
should still have saved up more money.

>>57017047
The difference is actually pretty big, for the price difference at least

>>57004982
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kzwqd6
Is this a good mid-range gaming build? Also, what's the best place to get Windows 10 Pro from?

>>57017136
>Windows 10 pro
Name one reason why you need pro

>>57017163
More control over the operating system. Also, I don't like Home.

>>57017085
For what? The extra 4gb of VRAM? Come on, the clock speeds and men speeds are almost the same. My budget was REALLY limited, that difference plus taxes would stop me from buying other parts, Ii would take at least one month more to get get rest. Now I just need a decent 1080p monitor to finish my build

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mPTrGf

Bit new to this, please tell me if this build is stupid.

>>57016962
>I have a decent power supply
500W Coolermaster Silent Pro M
>case with good front panel
A few usb ports, audio in out, media card reader ideally but not the end of the world if not

Based on the price of everything and that I might have to get new RAM as well, should I just get a good graphics card and a new case and clean the fucker out?

Seems like a decent build of what I need forcing me to buy brand new ram would be £500 at least

>>57017227
I can't tell if this is bait or not.

>>57017227
>Fx-9590
>Malware antivirus
>Windows 10

Now that stupid, get an Intel CPU

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Evening /g/.

I need your help with something for the next few moments because I have to get this stuff done today.

I need to buy a Mouse and a hardrive. I have around $150 left so I need to make good use of it. I already have a 1TB hardrive so want maybe something with 500gb just to install a new Operating system on it. (It's WD 3.0 SATA) And a new gaming mice, I have also a The Logitech G9x gaming mousebut saldy won't be able to get another one it looks like and I'm kinda outdated on what to get.

Anyone wanna help me out?

>>57017136
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kzwqd6

Yes it's a decent build and you can get Windows 10 here: http://www.onlinekeystore.com/buy-windows-10-professional-oem-key-direct-download.html

>>57017136
that's not really midrange but whatever, pretty good. i'd just change the cooler because CM 212 meme is old and there are better alternatives like Cryorig H7 and Scythe FUMA

>what's the best place to get Windows 10 Pro from
http://windowsiso.net/

>>57017196
>thinks only clock speeds matter
i bet you think a 3GHz Pentium 4 is better than the latest generation CPU running at 2.5GHz, dont you?

>>57017270
all cases have front usb and audio, no case comes with card readers any more, just get one for $10 and put in yourself.

>should I just get a good graphics card and a new case and clean the fucker out?
yes, and OC the CPU.

>>57017295
With an AMD GPU?

>>57017281
Its not bait.

>>57017329
Bait harder next time

>>57017298
Why another HDD? Get an SSD, much better for installing the OS on.
Also based on your previous mouse I'd say a Logitech G302

>>57017321
>Thinks tons of VRAM are actually crucial

This a +18 board kiddo

>friend might buy used pc
>he wants me to come with him to look at it to make sure it works properly
>I know a fair amount about PCs, but I'm worried about missing something
other than booting it up and seeing the temps and shit, what else should I do?

>>57017396
>thinks VRAM is the only thing that differs between 470 and 480

back to >>>/v/ with you

>>57017401
play a fucking game, dipshit

>>57017375
I like HHD desu. I have an 60GB SSD already it's pretty good but I made the mistake apparently of installing an (Win7) OS on it because I can't "delete anything on a SSD drive without lowering the lifespan" I head that on /g/ awhile back, I could've been trolled though so who knows.

But thanks for the suggestion on the mouse, gonna pick that up right away

>>57017321
Thanks man, appreciate the advice. Think I'll just go for high-mid range GPU, new SSD and case plus a big ass can of compressed air

:)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqfmLD

Okay is this a better build? I changed to Intel

>>57017410
You right, can't ask shit without receiving autistic answer ger

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>>57017433
also this is why I want a new hardrive. I only installed an OS on it, though over the years I'm sure some stuff got put in there, Normally this wouldn't be an issue if I knew how to clean it out or wipe it clean.

>>57017433
Don't, get the G303. It's basicly the same mouse for the same price but with a newer and better sensor in it.

>>57017552
Well with your budget I'd say a WD Blue for 500 GB then. Also get the G303 it has an updated sensor.

>>57017484
>DDR3 mobo
>DDR3 RAM
>with latest gen intel CPU

>>57017519
you didnt ask shit, you claimed bullshit and got told hard you retarded fuck.

Go look at some actual reviews. 480 is AT LEAST 10% better than 470 in every fucking game.

Same goes for 1060 3GB vs 470. The 470 max FPS in almost every fucking game barely touches the 1060's average/lowest FPS.

just KYS you pathetic faggot

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>>57017586
>>57017569

Perfect. Thanks alot to both of you. This is exactly what I had in mind. I like the manufactures I have, they been good to me but I had these things since 2011 and I wanted to get some new stuff before they start having serious issues.

I really needed that hardrive to at least transfer my important stuff over so I can use the SSD and the other hardrive for something else.

Again thanks anons, I feel it.

>>57017484
The CM 212 is not for keeping an i7 cool when it's being OC'd you need something like a Scythe Mugen 4 for example.
Change the RAM you can get 3000 Mhz Corsair LPX RAM for a good price.
Also don't buy Windows 10 from retail stores, you can get a Windows 10 key for half the price at Kinguin.

>>57017177
Specifically, what extra controls do you have over the operating system?
Name one.

>>57017586
>>57017641
That's fucking retard. There's no reason to get anything below a 2TB drive for $60 because you're paying a fuckton more per GB.

Just get decent SSD instead.

>>57017659
stop replying seriously to an obvious bait post, dumbass.

>>57017659
What's it for then?
Because apparently I'm using mine wrong

>>57017697
It's to jew retards that perpetuate memes even tho there are better alternatives.

>>57017659
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3PBrGf
Thank you, is this build better?

I am honestly not baiting.

Lads my PC has been acting up in regards to the GPU temperature readings.

It reads fine for like a day then gets frozen on a number. It will go above this number but never below even though I know it is lower. A restart will fix it or usually a driver update fixes it but it usually happens again?

Reckon it's a software issue or a hardware issue?

I got an AMD R9 280X.

>>57017682
It almost looks reasonable. The ram is expensive and Windows shouldn't be paid for, but everything else on there except the monitor is comparable to any other list on this thread
As far as 6700k/1080 computers go that isn't insane without the monitor

>>57017697
It's kind of outdated by now. There are better alternatives out.

>>57017721
I bought a $20 piece of metal CPU cooler instead of an $80 piece of metal CPU cooler (I'm assuming this is the alternative because I never saw a cheaper cooler that didn't looks like tinfoil) and haven't gotten my i7 above 60° I don't understand

>>57004982
I know that pic is old but does anyone know who the guy is? I found him really cute when I was 14 and I still do now.

>>57017745
>4x4GB
you cant quad channel, why are you filling all your ram slots?

>>57017754
reinstall drivers properly.
use a different software to read temps.

>>57017802
Yeah, tried all that but it keeps fucking up after a while it's a pain in the ass.

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>>57017785
totally nothing wrong with that logic.

>>57017745
Yes, but it is better to take 2x8 GB sticks instead of 4x4 GB sticks anon.

Is there any MoBo that has 2 or 3 fan connectors? Or there's a connector for 2 or more fans? I don't really want to buy a fan controller.

>>57017802
>>57017835

oh shit I thought that was 2x8 my bad will fix.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MkQR4C

>>57017821
I guess I'll have to live life insecure about the $20 piece of metal cooling my CPU because I don't understand why someone prefers otherwise

>>57017887
Yes
Yes

>>57017889
Looks good anon, you're set to go with this build.

>>57017890
you could have gotten a $40 piece of metal that kept your CPU under 40C

>>57017906
Which are those?

>>57017943
>any mobo that states it supports as many fans as you need
>4 paperclips or a hacked together $2 fan splitter from china
Alternatively use molex connections
Alternatively use google

>>57017935
Thanks! Oh and I saw someone say the monitor was strange, is it bad for the price?

So I just bought a 1070, still rocking a 1080p monitor, want a new monitor
So the gpu is strong enough for 3440x1440p?
Or should I stick wit 16:9 1440p?
Gonna be playing games like Gears, Titanfall

Both options with 144hz, the 16:9 with G-sync

>>57017998
I thought that was 1080p ignore my faggotry
But while we're talking about 60FPS 1440p, a 1070 should be enough for that if you're trying to save money

>>57017599
>10%

Wow it's fucking nothing

>>57018072
1440p? yes, easily
1440p at 144Hz? Not gonna happen on maxed out brand new high detail games with a 1070
G-sync will help things look okay if you're not getting monitor-maxed framerates, but theoretically if you were always getting 144FPS 100% of the time, g-sync would be useless

>>57017996
alternatively reply to the correct post.

>>57018124
>gets told
>claims 10% is nothing
nice argument, want some ice for your butthurt?

>>57018072
2560x1440 is already becoming a standard. You should probably go for the standard size that 1440p is usually tested at, you can't be 100% sure if extra horizontal pixels will make things unplayable

>>57018072
>divide by 9
>multiply by 16
Not that difficult

>>57018072
I'd stick to 2560x1440p but you wont be getting 144hz on the new games. Older games yes, but the 1070 doesn't have the power to reach those levels on newer games with 1440p.

>>57018265
>thinks Hz is the same as FPS

>>57017890
>what is overclocking

>>57016300
>Here is an example of a $110 4TB that was tested
>5700RPM
Yet again no 7200RPM HGST for reasonable money that was actually tested.

>>57018535
It's something I apparently shouldn't have done because /g/ said I would become too hot

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>>57004982
it took me 55min to install these things. FUCK!

>>57018138
>>57018194
>>57018265
Thanks anons, gonna buy a 2560x1440p 60hz

It's dangerous to connect 2 fan splitters for 3 fans?

>>57017745
here better build for only 60$ more have fun m8
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pz2rGf

>>57018864
SSD for Games
HDD for Windows ( because 2-3sec longer boottime than ssd doesn´t matter), Porn, Programs and Animus(other shit you want to hoard).

>>57018864
>>57018881
p.p.s
your build is pretty good so you could get a nice 2560x1440p 140hz gsync monitor like Dell S2716DG if you want 27" or if you are ok with 24" Dell S2417DG

if you want the upgrade it about 120-220$ more if depending what monitor your buy

>>57018635
shity to install, poo color
like they tell you by design they are overprices meme shit

>>57018676
60 might be a tad low, try to find one at 75hz. Most reviews show the 1070 GTX getting around 75 fps on modern games at 1440p.

>>57019040
But with a 75Hz monitor without sync, the second it drops to 74Hz the whole game is gonna look like laggy shit.
And a 1070 drops below 75Hz at 1440p in multiple situations.
60 CONSTANT fps looks great at it is, unless you're absolutely 100% sure you'll be getting over 75fps pretty much all of the time, 60hz would be safer and smoother

>>57019111
That only happens if you have Vsync enabled which is fucking pointless to do if your FPS is around the refresh rate. 74 fps on a 75hz screen with Vsync turned off is not going to cause a laggy shitfest.

>>57018635
It's four screws. Are you retarded?

>>57019040
>75Hz
>Watching 30FPS movies
Would you rather have one frame every two refreshes exactly, or one frame every 2 refreshes and then one frame in between the screen refreshing cycle and then have that frame get prematurely refreshed before you can fully appreciate it?

>>57019191
Sync makes those times below 75Hz better, but don't tell me that 74fps on a 75Hz screen won't look like shit because it's the same reason why 59fps looks like shit on a 60Hz screen

>>57019220
>It's four screws. Are you retarded?
I don't want screws. I wanted those anti-vibration thingies.
It was hard to install because my case can be opened from one side only. it was next to impossible to stick my fingers into the small space on the other side and pull that silicon thingy. it was slippery and impossible to grasp. I also cut up my hand in several spots trying to do it. I had to ask a neighbor of mine who's a physician for small curved forceps and then I finally managed to do it.

>>57018966
>shity to install, poo color
>like they tell you by design they are overprices meme shit
But it's worth it. my temps are down and the thing is silent. not a meme at all. As for color, couldn't care less. I don't have windows on my case. Only faggots and children care about that shit. They truly are the best there is.

>>57019229
You do realize movies are at 24 fps right?

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>>57006640
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDBLyf
>replace 2tb with 1tb
>go to a microcenter and buy an open box case, nzxt s340 will look retarded and empty with matx mobo in it and is already too expensive for a budget build
>rx 480/470
use money saved to get an i5. Sure, you'll get higher fps with the 1060 than 480/470, but plenty of games will get unplayable fps if you dont have 4 cores.

>>57019348
>have $1500 PC
>have 1080p monitor
>have Forza horizon 3
>it uses one core of my 6600k
>get unplayable fps

>>57019274
The fuck you talking about? Vsync makes it WORSE. Vsync is only an improvement to prevent screen tearing caused by a higher fps count than your refresh rate. Turning on Vsync when you can't even reach fps above the refresh rate is retarded. To prevent having to deal with tearing from too high FPS or stuttering caused by dips in low FPS you want to have an FPS that is near the refresh rate so you can turn Vsync off. That's why the 75hz screen is perfect for the 1070 GTX with its near 75 fps in modern games. Yes, sometimes the FPS will go down or below 75 but because the differences aren't too big, at max 5 frames, you won't see any real suttering or tearing.

>>57019414
5 frames drop in the midst of constant fps is kind of a really big deal
And I'm talking about monitor/GPU, Hz/FPS hardware sync, g sync or freesync not licking the fps to 60

>>57019455
Gsync is a fucking meme, unless the FPS keeps making huge drops from 60 to say 24 you wont see any benefit from it. A slight hick from 75 to say 72 is too small for the Gsync tech to have any meaningfull impact.
And unless you're pumped up on adderall during your gaming session you REALLY wont notice a drop from 75 to 70 fps for 2 seconds.

>>57019401
Maybe you should get a GPU instead of using your integrated graphics.

>>57019544
>1070 can't even run Forza
>puny 40% usage

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How often do you lads build new systems?

>spend $400 every 5 years for budget gaming system

pls r8 my server build

chassis - supermicro 3U cse-836TQ-R800B $150
ram - 48GB DDR3 ECC Registered ram - $93
cpu - Xeon 5677 (x2) - $100
motherboard - supermicro X8DTH-iF $135

I already have HDDs and the case comes with two PSUs

>>57019401
forza 3 is a horrible port. its more indicative of performance you would get from mafia 3 than a normal AAA.

I think im about ready to pull the trigger.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwVDwV

I'm buying a 6600k to upgrade from my fx 6300, which has a CM Hyper 212 Evo installed. I'm out of the thermal paste that came with the Evo.
Any recommendations on what to buy? I know Artic Silver 5 is "the old standby" but that was a while ago and I heard it's not perfect. I don't need the best on the market, I'm only clocking up to like 4.2ghz. Reliable/Wont fail > Cool temps.

>>57019637
0/10

>>57016849
>Intel Core i5-200K
If you mean the 2500K, just OC to about 4.4GHz. Change out your thermal paste, clean the cooler, or buy a decent one if you need to. You may run into problems streaming with the i5, but with CSGO I think you'll be fine.

The 64GB SSD can be used for the OS only. Get a 250GB for games. Grab a 2TB HGST for storage.

Graphics card could be RX470, GTX 1060 3GB, or even something cheaper depending on what you're playing.

>>57016893
>>57017047
>>57017196
Ya did good, don't listen to the other anons. Make sure to OC that 470 as far as possible. It's got a lot of headroom. at about 1340 it will be as good as a reference 480.

>>57017085
>>57017059
>>57016983
Shut up faggots. And no, the 470 is appropriately priced, especially considering 480s are still inflated.

>>57017136
Not bad, but if you're at 1080p the 1070 is overkill.

>>57017678
Are you a fucking moron? Pro lets you disable Windows Defender permanently, for one thing. Home will always start it automatically and there's nothing you as the user can do about it. You're probably one of the retards I already called out

>>57017889
You really don't need the i7 for gaming. Just get the i5 6600K (or even the i5 6500) for now and upgrade in a few years to the i7 7700K (Kaby Lake will work on your mobo)

Drop to the 1070. Plenty for 1440p 60Hz.

>>57017298
Get a 240GB SSD for $60

>>57017321
>i bet you think a 3GHz Pentium 4 is better than the latest generation CPU running at 2.5GHz, dont you?
He's comparing the 470 to the 480, retard. Same arch, so clocks are a good comparison.

>>57018072
Yes the 1070 can do 1440p ultrawide. If you get the Gsync monitor you'll be on easy street. Ultrawides are pretty nice except for movies though.

If you really want to take advantage of 144Hz wait for the 1080Ti coming out in January. It'll be a huge performance boost over the 1070 with better price/perf than the 1080.

>>57018193
You don't know what told means, faggot. Anyway even if we're taking current reference prices, the 480 is significantly more than 10% (try 30%) more expensive. So actually you got told because you're suggesting a 30% premium for a 10% increase in performance.

TOLD

>>57018194
1440p is not a standard. The next standard will be 2160p (4K).

>>57018565
A 4TB drive is clearly a storage drive. High RPM is really only that much better for seeking. Transfer speeds aren't really that different. Here's a drive that has had its sisters tested by blackblaze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UM3102206
Unfortunately you can't search blackblaze tables, but it's easy enough to find the sister model if you want to.

>>57018881
>Have SSD
>HDD for Windows
Holy shit, you're a retard.

>>57019842
Get a 240GB SSD for $60.
Break RAM up into x2 4GB kit.

>>57019844
Pretty much anything will do, but I use Arctic Silver.

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Can anyone build me a GPU passthrough compatible Build? Preferably AMD.

I am stuck with all these incopatible hadwares
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware

>>57020249
I don't have any experience with that, but from that list it looks like you can use Skylake CPUs and an AMD graphics card.

>>57020225
>Holy shit, you're a retard.
HUR DUR I WANT TO HAVE 2SEC FASTER BOOT TIME HUR DUR IM A HUGE FAGGOT
wtf boottimes doesnt matter since a long time

>>57020347
IDK whenever I try it's
>Compatible CPU
>Compatible GPU
>Compatible Mobo/chipset
Only any two

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>>57020357
Boot and resume from sleep or hibernate. And do anything Windows needs to do, like integrate updates. Or when you have to scan files for malware your clearly dumb ass downloaded.

Again, you're retarded, just like your posting style.

>>57020373
It's better to go with the same brand (e.g., Gigabyte) for RMA / tech support purposes, but you definitely don't want an AMD CPU right now. You'd have to wait for Zen to get anything worthwhile.

Intel + AMD is no problem, and in fact AMD tests their cards on Intel CPUs because theirs are so bad.

Any suggestions?
Already own a graphics card
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/87dqd6

>>57020618
I have no idea why a wifi adapter should have to cost that much. iirc I've seen some in builds here that cost 10 or 20 bucks.

Looks pretty good for a budget build, although depending on your GPU that PSU might be a bit overkill. If the wattage works out, try bumping down the power rating and get something with a better efficiency rating.

Meme-free ITX build incoming.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fMTPf8

>>57020773
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fMTPf8
Get a cheaper power supply, grab a 120gb or 240gb SSD. Check that the H7 and that particular video card will fit into the Nano S. Everything else is thumbs up from this anon.

>>57020773
Is not having 16GB of RAM falling under the meme-free statement because everyone who does gaming builds does it or was that just you cheaping out?

>>57020856
You really don't need 16 Gigabytes of RAM for gaming. Every game that doesn't have a shit port released in 2016 only requires 8.

>>57017401
Install crystaldiskinfo/mark and cpuz
Check for drives anomalies, test their speeds and stress cpu with cpuz.
Open case and see if theres unused ram slots and ports. Check if those unused slots still working
Thats all i know

>>57015296
Just get the RX-460.

I'm pretty sure PowerColor has a 90 buck 2GB model and a 104 Buck 4GB model on Newegg right now.

Ok, question for any of you with experience in this matter. I'm currently piecing together plans for a custom liquid cooling setup. Problem is, I'm not well versed in brand quality when it comes to cooling components. Anyone have any recommendations for parts, brands to look/watch out for, and general tips one would find useful?

Thanks in advance.

>>57020618
Get a bigger SSD, 240GB is the sweet spot.
Change to a B150 mobo (same price), otherwise you won't be able to upgrade your RAM without first selling your x2 4GB kit.
HGST HDD like everyone has been saying
Get a 500W or greater PSU with x2 6+2pin

>>57020662
>I have no idea why a wifi adapter should have to cost that much
That one can use 2.4GHz or 5GHz bands

>>57020773
Use liquid cooling to effectively vent the OC heat
Need a 240GB SSD
Like the other anon said, you only have two RAM slots, so get x2 8GB

>>57019988
Finally, I forgot /g/ its full of pajeets shilling their Poonvidias, 4k/144mhz its a fucking meme for manchilds

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>>57021178
But seriously, are you applauding me or calling me a vishal?

>>57021298
>Finally an answer with common sense

Is not that hard to read, isn't?

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>>57021330
Thanks. This thread did have some pretty retarded "helper" anons.

>>57021460
>>57021460
>>57021460
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