/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>56977842
>>56977842
>>56977842

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>mfw i use an HGST hard drive

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>>56988782
>gpu is at 80 degrees Celsius while playing overwatch
AHHHH fucking reference coolers.

>>56988846
Get some noctua fans.
>Buying reference cards

>>56988940
I got it for cheap, it's an older card. I'm going to get a 1070/80 FTW probably.

Why are HGST drives so fucking expensive...
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Looking to make a NAS/in-home streaming system (Plex, etc). Want to keep it at/under/around $400, not too much more than $425 or so. In the US.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VLWbpb

I'm the guy that had the i5 6400 couple threads ago with z170 board. I was using stock and got stable oc of about 3.9 GHz. Today I put on my old hyper 212 evo on it and now I can hi a stable 4.44ghz @ 1.2v. I'm still running my p95 tests to see how stable it can be. Hopefully it's stable enough.

One another note, the RAM speed is still limited to around 2100 MHz.

>>56989119
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9ZLPf8

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What should i upgrade?
I really hate this fucking 970 and its 3.5Gb meme.
I regret buying it

>>56989838
Add a SSD.
CPU and motherboard?

And of course, a good videocard.

Anon, when people shitpost about something here is for a reason.

When something gets memed on you better buy it or avoid it based on the meme. (See thinkpads, SSDs, uMatrix, etc, also in your case GTX 970, Seagate, etc).

>>56989838
1060 6gb mini

>>56989838
>i7-2600k
>16GB RAM
>970 3.5GB
It's not the best, but why upgrade this?

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>>56989838
>>56989882
I'm thinking of this one.

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Is this build ok for 1080p gaming?

>>56989934
Yes it is, you could drop to a 6500, though.

>>56989934
Spend a little more and get the I5-6600K with a GA-Z170XP-SLI and a 212 EVO.
Otherwise drop to the I5-6500.
Get a corsair 200r and get a 212 EVO.

Never cheap out in your PSU but it will werk.

>>56989898
970 is pretty bad in newer games
3.5gb of vram is not enough
you need at least 4-8

>>56989934
Yes, I have the same cpu and it is great. It throttles down and uses very little power with no problem in games.

Also I'm thinking about getting a 1060 myself.
One thing I do have that you don't is an M.2. drive which I highly recommend. Get a mb that supports the x4 ones (or maybe x8 if that is out now).

>>56989912
Its good, yeah, but its pretty much a GTX 970 without the 3.5GB problem and more efficient.
Its not more powerful.

If you want a upgrade get a GTX 1070.

>>56989912
I was gonna get the same thing, but it costs too much for me.
So I went with a 185 470.

After nearly a full year of no desktop crisp 60FPS high detail gaming, I feel refreshed tonight.

Thank you /g/ents, for this thread.

>>56989965
In that case get a RX480 8G or a 1060 6G like the EVGA mini posted above.

>>56989976
Anon why not just get a GTX 1060 3GB for $200?

>>56989969
980>1060>970

>>56989968
I have a GoyTax 1060, can max out everything I've thrown at it.

Whats the deal with the Meme2 drives?

>>56989995
This might be the dumbest idea in the thread. Never buy 3gb! Buy the 6gb 1060.

>>56990008
>Whats the deal with the Meme2 drives?
They are fast as hell and cheap enough to merit inclusion.

>>56990015
>This might be the dumbest idea in the thread. Never buy 3gb! Buy the 6gb 1060.
Because?

>>56990069
Not him, but because as games are becoming increasingly dependent on GPUs, it's becoming more and more important to have enough vram. 3GB is getting toward the low end, and the price difference really isn't all that high.

I recently purchased a used hard drive from ebay. I installed it and formatted it. I restarted my computer and it's stuck on the bios screen; my keyboard won't work. I unplugged the hard drive, restarted the computer, and everything works fine.

Any idea what the problem with the hard drive is?

>>56989955
I can find them for almost the same price in some stores, so i picked the 6600
>>56989960
I can upgrade to the 6600k + 212 evo, but the mobo is too expensive for me right now.
>>56989968
i am searching for a good ssd, but i cant spend too much. Any recommendations?

>>56988810
please respond

>>56990102
Well then there is no point the since to use a unlocked CPU (I5-6600k) you need to get a Z170 motherboard.
Overclocking is worth it in the long run, see how people are still using their I5-2500K and I7-2700K with no problems.

240GB 850 EVO is usually what everyone gets, yes it is good enough, its $80-90.

>>56990140
Read logicalincrements.

A I5.
A Good SSD.
A GTX 1070.

>>56989995
well-
>>56990015
and
>>56990088
also, Nvidia cut down on the number of CUDA cores in the 3GB.

Should be the 1050ti, but nah.

>>56990154
2500K here. I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. One of the best investments I've ever made.

Hey /pcbg/, I've got an a10 5800k from 3-4 years ago and no dedicated gpu. I like to play games but nothing crazy maxed out or new. How much use would I get from a good mid-range gpu like a 1060 or similar amd (470?) or would I be bottlenecking too much from the weaker cpu. I play on a 1080p monitor, so I know the VRAM on new cards will help a lot. Thanks everyone.

>>56990187
Im sure it would start bottlenecking with a GTX 1060, or RX 480.
Your CPU is as strong as a Haswell-Skylake pentium.

>>56990099
Check both cables. Try others.

>>56990187
Always a good idea to upgrade ram and gpu first. RAM because it is cheap and GPU because you are going to anyway.

>>56990099
Check your boot order.

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>motherboard is STILL stuck in Jacksonville
GOD
DAMN IT

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Just bought this. How'd I do?

Looking to get into PC gaming

>>56990316
Really bad idea, if you can cancel the order.
Should have bought a GTX 950 or a RX 460.

GTX 750Ti was a good card, but 3 years ago, it got replased last year by multiple cards.

>>56990329
Pretty much this honestly. You're in for a dissappointing experience if you think a 750Ti can hold up to newer games.

>>56990329
>Replased
Replaced*

>>56990329
>>56990350

I should have added that I have a 300w power supply, and a q6600 CPU. Max I have about 80w to work with.

I'll cancel, but any suggestion's on what I should buy instead? (Looking at the RX 460 and GTX 950 right now)

I did get that card for $135 cdn

>>56990380
Both RX 460 and GTX 950 have 75w versions, those are what replaced GTX 750Ti.
Both are pretty much the same aside from extra features and more people liking nvidia more.

GTX 1050Ti is more powerful than all those but its not out yet and its not confirmed it will be 75w.

You should buy a better PSU too, a 500w one is only $35-40.

>>56990380

For $15 more CDN, you could've gotten a RX 460, which blows apart the 750 Ti.

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>>56990264
I used both cables on another hard drive and it works just fine. I believe the hard drive is causing the problem but I don't know how to resolve the issue.

>>56990279
I don't know what you mean by this. My keyboard won't work when I have the hard drive plugged in. I'm just stuck on the motherboard screen.

I said I was stuck on the BIOS screen previously, but I meant the motherboard screen like this picture.

>>56990316
I hope you didn't pay more than $80 for it.

>>56990099
Boot on Linux with a USB, check the HDD.

>>56990457
I'll give that a try. Thanks.

>>56990445
Where in the fuck can you get this for $80?

Cheapest I can find is $120 refurb in Canacuck

>>56990699
Mexico GTX 750Ti is $91, new.

Your literally gay president is ruining your economy anon.

>>56990699
I'm sorry. What I meant to say is that it's worth $80 and I think I'm being generous.

>>56990725
I know. It hurts so much. Prime Minister Weedman is fucking us all.

>GTX 750 ti $120 refurb, $160 new
>GTX 950 $140 refurb, $175 new
>RX 460 $175 new

I want out.

>>56990749
>160 for a 750ti
What the fuck.

>>56990746
Would really have trouble running games at 1600 x 900 at 60fps?

That's the res of my monitor

>>56990789
Recent ones? yeah, a lot.

>>56990756
That's on the cheap side. Some go above $200.

Fuck this new government.

>>56990435
Yeah I suppose you can't modify boot order for a drive that isn't plugged in. You could try checking that your boot drive is at first sata port.

Sounds like the drive is dead, that reformatting was the last straw for it. It is sending some garbage data to your BIOS which causes it to crash. You could try plugging it via USB cable/dock and checking what windows thinks of it, maybe reformatting and partitioning it again.

New to PC building and I just do general multitasking such as image editing, chinese cartoons, music, a lot of tabs in firefox etc and don't game, which leads me to ask, should I get an i3 6100 or a similarly priced AMD CPU for the "better multithreaded performance"?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZGqd6
Is this a good ITX gaming build? I have a budget of about $2k and don't really want to have to worry about upgrading.

>>56990880
I5-6400 or I5-6500.

>>56990860
>You could try plugging it via USB cable/dock and checking what windows thinks of it, maybe reformatting and partitioning it again.

That's what I was thinking. I bought a docking station yesterday and I'm waiting for it to be delivered.

>>56990880
Everything you mentioned is mostly about single-thread performance.

>>56990749
You can get a used GTX 960 on ebay for $130. It's much better than a 750Ti or 950.

>>56990880
Two things pop out at me.
First, that's a big SSD. You'll get better storage for your buck by getting a HDD in tandem with a smaller ssd.
Secondly, that PSU might not be enough power if you're gonna overclock, but I may be speaking from ignorance here.

>>56990880
Ideally you'd want something with more threads but afaik you'll have to go higher than an i3 to get that.

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I might buy a Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB
7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
3.5" Internal Hard Drive

What I'm worry the most is if it's long-lasting and has good build quality.
I don't really care about price or speed. Just to make sure that my data will be safe.

>>56990881
Mx300 looks good in your cart, but not especially great tested specs. Might as well get a 4tb hgst hdd with that budget. Looks nice either way.

>>56990994
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lt4dqk
I edited it slightly, and I already have some hard drives I can use.

>>56990991
all I know is that they aren't seagate

>>56990991
Just keep your backups up to date and you're fine. No matter how much money you spend your drive WILL eventually fail. But some everything is digital you can just buy a new drive and restore a perfect chip put off your data on it.

>>56991018
Looking nicer, but looking back at what you were saying earlier about not wanting to upgrade, why go for a 1070 instead of a 1080, since the difference in price is only about $200 or so.

>>56990991
Man you can never be sure with HDD, I have this Seagate 500gb disk and has lasted me 5 years. got a 1 tb of the same brand and just lived for 1 years and some months

what can i do when UEFI doesnt load properly ? i have installed windows 7 64bit already but i cannot get into the UEFI setup (gigabyte b150m-ds3h bios/uefi version f4)

when pressing del i just get into a black screen with the mouse cursor

>>56991018
Im going to be that fag and try to convince you a beQuiet! air cooler will be just as good, more reliable, and cost @50$ less. But you probably want water so whatever.

>>56991121
Gigabyte with BIOS trouble? Consider me shocked. Seriously tho, have you reset the cmos?

>>56991121
Unplug as much shit of it as possible and try to access BIOS then. If that doesn't work then your mobo is dead. You could try to reset it by finding the cmos reset switch/jumper but I doubt that it fixes it.

>>56991166
Ive had cmos fix everything before don't be so mean and bitchy.

>>56990749
What the fuck anon, I live in some 3rd world on the other side of the global and even then brand new 750ti wont go pass 140 bucks.
You should consider switching country.
Anyway, for 720p gaming the 750ti is just about right but 1080p will be probably too much

>>56990880 here

This is what I came up with
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GxCzvV
Thoughts? Thinking of getting a cheapo GPU like R7 360 and dual QHD monitors.

>>56991316
>Dual 4K monitors
>shitty little gpu
Am I being rused or are you actually serious?

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Whose dick do i have to suck so i can get a half-height variant of this graphic card generation?

>>56991344
I'm actually serious. I hardly game if ever.

>>56988782
I just bought a Cool Master Trooper case did i do good ?

>>56991356
Yeah, it doesn't even make a difference. The 360's max resolution is only 1 4K monitor, and it'll be working its ass off the whole time.

>>56991396
Okay, so what should I go for then? Of course, cheap is what I'm going for.

don't even know what general to ask this in, but I'll give it a shot. anyone know of any good desktop mics just for skype and gaming? nothing professional grade, it just has to be able to sit on my desk and pick up my voice from ~2ft away. I looked at the blue snowball but apparently you have to be very close for it to pick up your voice.

>inb4 buy a headset with a mic
I already use a o2/odac + dt880 setup so I'd rather not have to swap back and forth

>>56989999
lol

>>56988782
What's the goto PSU if EVGA AND Seasonic aren't available?

Always-on gayman, probably need 500W but I'll take a 750W for muh-peak efficiency and because I can afford to burn some money on the most important part of my not-cheap computer.

http://www.qvc.com/Dell-15%22-or-17%22-AMD-Quad-Core-8GB-RAM-1TB-HD-Lifetime-Tech%2C-Office-Option.product.E229775.html?sc=TSV&UDC=TSV&MSG=TSV_OTO_INSTOCK

Would this be sufficient for somebody in their early 50's who jkust does general internet browsing, taxes/wodprocessing stuff, and occasionally streams video?

>>56991355
Just get a mini?

>>56991484
>buying something from qvc
you didn't have to specify that you're over 50, we could already tell

>>56991431
I don't know any cheap ones offhand, but look at the newer AMD stuff, that'll probably get you where you need to be cheaper. 2 4k monitors is a lot of pixels to render.

>>56991484
Yes. Although you could buy a 6 year old laptop on ebay for $250 and easily be able to do all those things. That's what I did, and mine has a 1440x900 screen, which looks loads better.

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>>56991484
>Infomercials in that style still exist

>>56991396
>>56991538
Wait, what. I'm not getting dual 4K's but dual 2560x1440. Is the GPU still viable then?

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Is it worth upgrading my cpu anytime soon? Right now I have a i7 4770 (4.0mhz).

I game mostly at 1080p 60fps

I do want to upgrade maybe in the summer to a better 120ghz+ monitor but I'm wondering if I should bother with the cpu or if it will be fine for awhile. Since that also means a new mobo and going from ddr3 to ddr4

Is it worth it performance wise or would I probably not notice difference?

According to https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q2-2016/ and https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/ the HDS5C3030AlA630 is the most reliable 3tb HDD around.

But the listing on newegg that has reviews (there's 3 seperate ones for some reason?) has a ton of negative reviews mentioning drive failures:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA67S20W5972

Anybody got an idea what's going on here?

>>56991529
>>56991562
My mother called me and asked me if that would be fine for her since she needs a new laptop and I didn't know what to tell her

>>56988784
Thank you. I switched to an NVMe SSD and added a few more items to reflect the actual price of this project.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7qphq
Note that 3 of the HDDs and trays are for my backup scheme of periodically rotating a set of hard drives.
I'm feeling pretty good about the list right now, but I'd still like some constructive criticism if anybody has some.

>>56991056
>>56991110
Thanks, the store gives me 1 years warranty, I guess that's enough.
This drive will actually be for my backups

>>56991365
anyone ?

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>>56991953
You dun goofed, that thing looks hideous as hell. Unless you bought it as a pussy repellant, in that use it seems quite effective.

>>56991990
I like the handle bar

>>56992000
It doesn't make a ton of sense to put a handle on a full tower, being heavy as shit and full of poorly secured components.

>>56990435
This same shit happens on my Gigabyte X99 mobo. I know the drive is fine because it worked fine on another mobo. These mobos are just wack as fuck. Have to hard reset about 50% of the time to get to OS.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YYGqd6
How does this look? It's going to be used for gaming.

>>56992021
Not even for the occasional move for cleaning?

>>56992000
Do you really need it, nigga? Are you really transporting your PC to different place every other week? Besides, that thing will be so heavy that you probably want to hold it with both hands.

It does look hideous but if you like that sort of nerdy tech aestetic then go ahead and enjoy it.

>buying HDDs in 2016

>>56992052
AIOs are suck.

You don't need a full-modular power supply, or 80+ Gold for that matter. It saves money to go with less.

Corsair fans suck.

>>56992072
I'm not the guy asking for feedback, just a simple comment
and how much can it weigh

>>56992092
About one plate.

>>56992091
>Corsair fans suck.
it's not that they suck, it's that they blow. and not that well

>>56992087
Sadly SSDs aren't price effective for large storage space yet.

>>56991953
>>56991990
>>56992000
>>56992021
>>56992072
>>56992092
Not him, but what case would you suggest then? That's what I was planning on going with

>>56992108
>one plate.
nigga pls

>>56992130
Define R5 / Define S. Maybe the Mastercase 5.
>>56992132
I don't lift no more.

>>56992091
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZTJwV
What about this?

>>56992161
Saved a good amount of cash there, but I would go with a Noctua cooler.

>>56992128
Most people don't really need several terabytes of storage space. But then this is /g/ where everyone is hoarding a 5TB collection of chinese cartoons.

>>56992130
I'm not saying it is a bad case, I'm just saying that I don't like the way it looks and thus I woudnt buy it myself. Cases are highly subjective things.

But if you want my opinion on ATX cases then I'd go for Fractal Define series like that other anon suggested. But then I'm a mATX kind of guy and happy with my BitFenix Pandora.

>>56992174
Looking good. You could consider 16GB of ram but you can always upgrade it later if you need more.

Guy's I've finished 15.1 but didn't buy the forth fan in the end.
http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/qLmkD8

I've got to put it up on /GUTS/ next time as i have a updated pic.

>>56991599
NOPE. wait until coffee lake.
get a better GPU instead.

I have a 6700k and its not much faster
have a look at the 7700k its 15% faster than a 6700k based in the rumour mill.

>>56991663
backblaze is terrible they buy HDD's then thrash the hell out of the HDD's on systems not suppose to be used for consumer HDD's

>>56992275
will an i5 3570k carry me to coffee lake/cannonlake?

>>56988782
Hyper 212 Evo vs some more expensive Noctua

>>56993061
6 year warranty, top-tier fans, top-tier mounting, and top-tier thermal paste? Count me in.

>>56988782
So is the 5820k still a better choice than than the 6800k assuming both will be overclocked as much as possible? IIRC broadwell-e starts to need a lot of voltage past 4.0ghz whereas 4.4ghz is expected for a 5820k.

>>56993061
212 is good enough for pretty much anything. Noctuas top-tier coolers are better but at that point you'll be looking at water cooling rather than better fans.

I can get a Z97-GD65 for like 30€. Is it worth it? I already have a 1150 CPU and compatible stuff.

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>>56993298

> Noctuas top-tier coolers are better but at that point you'll be looking at water cooling rather than better fans.

The D15 (and its competitors like the R1 ultimate and silver arrow) outperforms all 120mm units as well as a decent amount of 240mm units. The only good 240mm AIO units are generally 50% more expensive than the top air coolers and even then using the term decent is a stretch.

The ONLY really, really good AIO is the EK predator and thats basically just a pre-assembled custom loop.

>>56992306
yes, probably much farther honestly.

>>56988815
>yfw Toshiba owns the manufacturing site that produced the "HGST drives" used in this stupid test

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Alright this is the PC I plan on building.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sVntCy
About the prices, they are converted from € to $.
I would like to know whether it is even worth it buying these parts at these prices although as a yuropoor I don't have much of a choice.
All of these are selected from the same store which seems to have the best prices overall.
I am unsure mainly about the graphics card. Both whether to go with RX480 or 470 or something else and if yes whether to go Sapphire Nitro + or the one I selected. I've heard Nitro+ has noise problems and whatnot and this one seems to be better overclocked also.
As for the PC usage, I want stable 60FPS at 1080p gaming while streaming. Won't go higher with resolution than this.
I would like the PC last at least 5 years.
Any thoughts? What to replace for what and whatnot. I will provide the store too so if you want you can check it out and perhaps recommend me some cheaper parts: www.comp4u.sk

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>>56994899

>As for the PC usage, I want stable 60FPS at 1080p gaming while streaming.

On max settings you won't be getting that on a 480 (or 1060) in the latest and greatest.

>I would like the PC last at least 5 years.

Consider an i7 - the extra threads helps looking forward and in the here and now it'll lessen the performance hit while streaming (same reason why AMD's 8 core chips love streaming - more cpu resources available for the task).

>>56988782
4tb or 3tb?
3tb seagate meme is fixed right?

>>56995143
Mafia III is a shit game that I would never play however and probably very badly optimized.
Actually come to think of it I don't really play any AAA games at all nor do I have a particular desire to play any. Although that might be because my current PC can't really handle them.
Perhaps it would be good to post what I actually DO play or plan on playing.
Basically, any game that is nice to stream such as League or Dota or Overwatch and so on I suppose and basically anything free to play or cheap.
It is actually damn hard for me to choose a PC. I don't really even like playing games all that much. And those that I do aren't all that graphically intensive since I prefer gameplay over fancy graphics. Of all the games that are supposed to come out, I am more or less only looking forward to Sea of Thieves. I'd also like to be able to run Minecraft well I suppose, with a bajillion mods and stream it at the same time.
The i7 would cost me additional 100€ too and I am sort of afraid of what Zen will bring to the table.
How much of streaming video games is reliant on CPU and how much on GPU?

>>56994899
Looks good. I'd personally change the PSU thought to a EVGA Supernova G2 or GQ.

>>56990799
That's what you get for being a petrostate Canada.

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>>56995290

>Perhaps it would be good to post what I actually DO play or plan on playing.

For what you've listed your i5 is fine (especially once overclocked a bit).

>The i7 would cost me additional 100€ too and I am sort of afraid of what Zen will bring to the table.

Given you want your PC to be a long term investment unless you are screaming out for an upgrade it might pay to see what zen brings (after all its only a few more months). If the zen range are intel killers for the money then waiting was the smart move. If zen is not then what have you lost? Nothingi s what but now you are certain in the knowledge that buying an intel chip is the correct course of action.

>>56990725
>>56990749
>Trudeau ruined the economy
No, he inherited a ruined one from Harper, because of the whole bullshit with the price of oil.

Currently it's recovering slowly

I have a i5 3570k and GTX970. I am selling my 970 because i quit gaming. Is there any reason for me to buy a low-end gpu? 95% of my pc usage is browsing (with a lot of tabs), youtube and movies.

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I've been running this for 4 years now and want to upgrade to a 1440p monitor, I'll probably buy the witcher 3 in ~6 months. I don't know if I can justify the extra 150$ for a 1070 when I could put that to a nicer monitor.

>>56995523

No.

>Kaby Lake desktops next quarter
>GPU market all weird with the generational thing
Has there ever been a shittier time to upgrade?

>>56995641
Don't think so.
Don't think so at all.

>>56989990
>>56989882
>buying midrange parts and frequently upgrading instead of getting a flagship
Top goy/10

>>56995449
is Doom the exception or the norm (going forward, assuming proper DX12/Vulcan support)?

I have a r9 290, so if all games behave like Doom, I'll be ok. but I'm worried I'll need to upgrade soon

>>56995561
what card are you considering right now? a 1060/480? I'd say neither will get consistent 60fps at 1440p, and Witcher 3 is gonna be 2 years old soon

I'd recommend getting a 1070 and a 1440p monitor. there's no point in a 1440p monitor if you're gonna be getting 30fps

>>56995894
Doom is written by team of highly competent/enthusiast people. So don't expect Doom quality in terms of performance from most games developer.

>>56995744
>he buys a GTX1080Ti for 1080p gaming
Autism at its finest.

>>56989990
>>56989882
>replacing a 970 with a 1060/480
literally why? the rule of thumb is twice the performance or better

>>56995975
I was looking at a 6gb 1060. I use linux most of the time so AMD's out. I guess the extra cash now will payout over the next 4 years I use the card if anything worth planning manages to get shat out.

>>56996043
Because he fell for the 3.5 meme. Since i don't play AAA games i'm fine with my GTX460.

>>56995990
>he doesn't understand futureproofing, reducing the chances of gpu failure and minimising time and effort spent on the build
Lel

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>>56995744

While doom is the exception the reality is hawaii (which your 290 is) is showing some absurdly good performance this day and age generally. In some DX12 titles hawaii is fighting the 980ti.

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>>56990308
I ordered this motherboard a full week ago on the 2nd
I chose 3 day shipping
It didn't ship until the 5th
it got stuck in Jacksonville, Florida on Thursday right before Matthew
it's now 4 days later and it hasn't moved an inch
I'm fucking furious

>>56996090
>he spends more than 600$ to play 1080p games
>future proofing when a 1070 is more than enough
Tech illiterate retards are not welcome here.
>>>/b/
>>>/v/

>>56996104
I'm not the guy you're helping, I just came in here to meme text. I'm already pretty comfy with my laptop

>>56996126
>a 1070 is more than enough
Great, but there's this thing called "time"
If you want to upgrade every 2 years to keep up with the trends,why don't you just buy a console?

>>56996199
You only need to upgrade every two years if the only thing you do is play the newest CoD and shit on the meme machine your parents got you for christmas.
If you only play LoL, DOTA, WoW or some other game from time to time, why bother? Alle those game run perfectly fine on even older GPUs.
And if you think your 1080 will be fine for all AAA titles with maxed out settings just 3 years from now you're delusional. You'll have to upgrade just as all the people who got a 1070.

>>56996323
>if you only play Lol, DOTA and WoW
LoLing at your tastes

>maxed settings
>being this much of a e-peen focused goy
Give me one (1) game in which you can tell the difference between high and ultra in normal game play

>>56996526
>my taste of games is better than yours
>give me one game where you can tell the difference between high and ultra
>i'll buy a 1080 anyways, regardless if 1070 will do the same
Literal autism. Go back to your autistic children daycare, kid.
>>>/v/

>>56995320
>I'd personally change the PSU thought to a EVGA Supernova G2 or GQ.
Not that anon but EVGA and Seasonic aren't available where I am but I want a super-reliable PSU for a 24/7 rig. About 600W+

What brands should I look for? I hear Corsair are house-fire quality but is that true for their platinum level units?

>>56996611
IMAGINE only being able to communicate in memespeak and being incapable of forming a coherent English argument

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>>56995894
Norm. See pic

>>56995744
Better to buy the best price/perf card. You suggestion is basically marketing

>>56995641
>Kaby Lake next quarter
It's going to be on 1151, and most mobos are going to get BIOS updates. So if you get an i3 6100 and a Z170 you have plenty of upgrade options. Kaby Lake will probably have better base clockspeeds, but I'm not expecting the OC potential to go up much

>>56995641
>GPU market all weird with the generational thing
They're on the new node, so now is a good time, except that the prices are still to high for the RX 480. Having said that, the small Vega 11 might be a really good chip, considering whatever upgrades AMD gave to the PS4Pro will be included in Vega. (People say that the PS4 is like a 7850, and that's true in terms of shader count, but the PS4 GPU is actually GCN2 like the 7790 or newer, unreleased at the launch of the PS4.)

>>56996635

So....around 90% of the content on /g/?

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Britbong here.

First time building a pc, it is sort of a budget leaning towards mid end build which is why the 1060 is in there.

Thoughts and recommendations?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hhv3RG

>>56996713
I already have a mouse and the keyboard is in there because it is cheap and cheerful to tide me over to next month when I will have money for a real keyboard.

I also forgot to mention that it will be a gaming machine with some solidworks use.

>>56996706
Install Gentoo

>>56996635
>doesn't have any arguments
>lol give me arguments
>complains about greentext on a chinese cartoon image board
Even for some autistic child from /v/, this is simply stupid.
>>>/v/

>>56996713

Pirate windows and get the fastest ram you can for that sort of dosh (lets say upper limit of £60).

>>56996713
Why not shell a bit more to get overclock on 6600?

Its so dumb imo. Either get 6600k and Z170 or i5-6400/6500 (whatevers cheap) and cheap mobo.

Or get i5-6500/6400 + Z170 and overclock it via BCLK.to 4.4-4.6Ghz.

>>56996738
That is the fastest for the motherboard.

>>56996770
The 6600 was £10 more than the 6500 so why not.

Doubt I will ever overclock, that is a pretty cheap mobo and that would mean at least £50 on cooler and mobo.

>>56996737
I did have arguments though, you illiterate pleb. They weren't just ad hominems and board suggestions though, so you won

Gg

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>>56995561
Personally I'd get a 1440p Gsync monitor if you're going Nvidia, so no reason to upgrade until you can afford it + a decent graphics card.

>>56995290
>probably very badly optimized.
Interesting that "badly optimized" games might hurt Nvidia by default now, instead of the other way around as was the situation before AMD had the consoles.

>>56996804
Difference between 6600 and 6500 is negligible. So 10 britbucks is pretty much a waste.

Here's my anecdote.
I've used seagate my entire life and never had a single failure, the one toshiba drive I got failed on me within the first month. I use WD for my external drives and they get abused (Physically and write wise), no failures on them either. The whole reason I tried a toshiba drive was because of people saying they were reliable, could jsut be bad luck.

>>56996848
Okay. So if I get a 6500 instead is there anything else that you would recommend?

>>56996824
You did not give a single argument other than "lol xD spend more money on 1080 xDD", retard.
But go on, declare your victory. Typical milenial retard behaviour.
>Gg
>>>/v/

>>56996713
Drop to 6500 if you're not going to OC, it has better value, cheaper RAM and case and don't by referrence GPUs, they usually have shit cooling.
Here's what i'd get in your situation: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MRMbpb

>>56996896
Get i5-6500 or i5-6400.

Learn how to overclock. Youtube videos.

Get https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019NFPHFA/ motherboard. You now get like 50-70% more powerful CPU for literally the same price.

>>56996833
I don't play twitch shooters so 60hz ips is good enough for me. The price jump isn't worth it for g-sync for me. I'm only looking at nvidia this time for driver support in linux anyway.

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>>56996833

>Interesting that "badly optimized" games might hurt Nvidia by default now,

As a rule /g/ gets violently angry when AMD cards outperform their equivalent Nvidia ones. In this context it means any game where AMD does win is inherently "badly optimised" because AMD winning is proof of this.

When its the other way around though its perfectly fine according to /g/.

>>56996713
It's fine but get the i5-6500 (do not get the 6400 as others are suggesting)
Switch to a 7200RPM 2TB HGST HDD
Get a 240GB OCZ SSD for OS + current games

>>56997065
Not him, but why and which OCZ?

Hey guys. What SDD should I get to put my OS on? I'm finally going to get Windows 10 because I want to play Forza and so on. But my existing 60gb is too small and awkward. Also I'm in the UK if that matters.

>>56996912
Okay I will drop to a 6500.
Not sure about ram brands, only ones I know are corsair and hyper X.
I didnt realise that the asus turbo was a reference card. That Zotac card is better than the asus one and not just cheaper?
Thanks for replying and helping modify the build.
>>56996931
Its not that I dont know how to overclock, its more the case that I dont think I would ever do it. But thank you for the input.

>>56997065
Im going to swap to the 6500.
I had a look but the 2tb hgst drives were almost twice the price where I could find them.
I thought about an SSD but that one is about £80 which I would rather not spend.
Thanks for input though.

>>56997114
Between 120GB and 240GB the price/TB is linear, so get a 240GB. Pretty much just sort by price and check reviews.

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>>56991484
QVC got the cuties on.

>>56997118
All shit RAM companies are gone. Crucial was and is a good brand.
The Zotac is more or less the same, but cheaper, runs cooler and more quiet and saves you a few bucks.

>>56997105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228142
Cheap + Toshiba

>>56997114
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&S=200000,10000000&sort=a7&page=1

Choose your price range and storage size range.

>>56997114

Samsung EVO 850 SSD
I think you misspelled ssd~

>>56996912
>>56997155
Okay so any RAM brand is fine then.
I just had a look on Scan uk and the evga sc gaming is £20 more but is base/turbo clocked 100mhz faster. Is it worth the cash or should I just go for the zotac?

>>56997183
EVGA SC should be overall better, but if you're on budget, why bother? Zotac is a good brand, especially their !AMP series.

>>56988782
I will be updating logicalincrements next week.

>>56997243
Okay.

Thanks again to everyone that replied.

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Hey /pcbg/, couple quick questions.

I currently built a brand new pc to replace my agaig gtx670/i53970 and have had some errors come bootup.

Everything starts fine, but I have my GPU plugged into my monitor via DVI-D, and my mobo plugged into my monitor via HDMI. Selecting both the DVI-D and HDMI port and I am not getting feedback via either one. Possible suggestions?

Also, if there are multiple SATA ports for one PSU cable, does that mean I can connect multiple storage devices via the same SATA cord and only take up one PSU cable slot, or is it better to use two separate SATAs and take up multiple PSU cable slots?

>>56988782
Anyone know of a good 1440p 120+hz monitor that they would recommend?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9d9KZ
Poorfag build for 1080p/120fps and maybe 1440p 60fps, I mostly play competitive shooters I also plan on buying doom and Hitman when they go on sale. I didn't screw up too badly, did I?
>>56997987
Asus ROG Swift or the Acer Predator, I'm sure BenQ has some nice ones too.

>>56988782
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JNwckT
>Purpose
Want a good gayming machine which can get at least144fps at 1080p
>Budget
£2000/£3000 with all peripherials
>Country
UK
>Improvements
lower the price and improve specs
thanks in advance!

>>56998134
It's fine. Personally I'd recommend getting an unlocked i5 (with an OC) if you're trying to get a high FPS. The i5 6500 is fine for 1440p 60Hz though.

>>56998188
Get 300MHz RAM
Switch to HGST HDD, avoid 1.5 or 3TB
Cheaper SSD

>>56998265
What's wrong with 1.5 or 3tb hard drives?

>>56998188
Get a better HDD and if you want a black/white build the LPX is also available in black or white.

>>56989119
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9ZLPf8

Take a look into the AM1 5350 + ASUS AM1M-A combo
>Motherboard and processor support ECC RAM
>Not spending an arm and a leg for DDR4 ECC RAM
>Cool and quiet--can literally run the CPU without a cooler
>Low powered--CPU plus 4 drives only pushed 50 watts

>>56997717
>GPU and mobo plugged into the monitor.

Is it just me or is there something off about this?

Isn't it just supposed to be the GPU?

and as for your second question, yes.

>>56998748

>Is it just me or is there something off about this?

That is because other anon is a retard.

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>>56998791
I don't have to have the MoBo plugged into the monitor at all? I'm retarded.

I figured it out. It was the 8pin at the top of the mobo for the CPU that I fucked up.

>>56998841

>I don't have to have the MoBo plugged into the monitor at all? I'm retarded.

No, you don't - thats why gpus have outputs. The only reason your motherboard has an output is because the cpu has integrated graphics and thus can, infact, operate without a discreet graphics card.

>>56998134
>Asus ROG Swift or the Acer Predator
These have Gsync versions. There's also an AOC Gsync with the same specs for $100 less.

>>56998358
They seem to have higher failure rates than other sizes. Nobody knows why, but it could be that they were supposed to be bigger but were downscaled due to quality issues.

>>56996090
>chance of gpu failure
>time spent on assembly
Literally 0% of those have anything to do with GPU, and 0% of games are going to warrant a 1080ti at 1080 60-144hz or 1440p 60-144hz

>>56990860
Just got the dock and tested the hard drive on it. It works. I still don't know why it causes my computer to fail.

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Why won't my computer boot out of BIOS to my Optical Drive which has a Win7 .iso burned to it? I have a brand new SSD and Optical as my only SATA connections, with Opt. higher in priotrity, secure boot disabled, but it will only boot to BIOS.

>>57000041
I was thinking more less gpus => less failures
>>57000041

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>>57000254
I don't think it's the disc either, this is the installation disc.

>>57000254
>>57000355
Burn the .iso file to the disc, not each directory in it, try again and don't just drag & drop them.

>>57000254
Can you disable every other boot source except that ODD? That should force it to pop some error instead of moving to next working drive.

>>57000185
Could be that windows doesnt access or care about the things your BIOS checks when booting. Try checking it with disk check or formatting it again via disk management using slowest possible method.

by slapping together kijiji listings i could get the following for 520 canadian

cpu: intel core i3-6100
ram: 8gb ddr4 2400mhz corsair vengeance
mobo: msi h110m pro-d
wifi card: rosewill rxn150 n

i already have a case/psu/storage

you think this is a good cheap upgrade? right now i have an amd fx4100 / gtx460 / 8gb ram setup

>>57000433
whoops forgot to include a zotac gtx 960 4gb in there for the kijiji listings

Austrianbro here. Just when I was about to settle for an 1440p 144hz IPS monitor (+ 1070 or RX480) I found several forum posts about frequent issues (BLB, glow, dead pixels). I will not dish out 500+ € for shit quality. What would be a sensible alternative in terms of monitor and accompanying graphics card.

I'm looking for an IPS monitor because I want to have a versatile multimedia setup (responsive gaming up close and watching movies from the couch). Or should I consider 2 monitors for either purpose?

>>57000433
>>57000451
It's alright, decent upgrade. You could consider rx 470 or used 980 instead of that 960.

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>>57000480
Well that forum says IPS is bad so obviously you're never going to go for such crap quality pieces of shits like IPS monitors

>>57000480
Either IPS or 144Hz. You can't reasonably expect both at a decent price from a monitor right now

>>57000480
Also the 1070 wouldn't be able to max out games at 1440p/144hz. I would say keep the 1440p IPS, but tone done the Hz to like 120, 90 or even 60 (60hz 1440p will be fairly cheap, you'll have more FPS than you'll have Hz so you won't need g/free sync too)

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Going for a black gray and silver a e s t h e t i c budget build.

R8
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDjH3F

I could probably forgo the cooler and just use the stock cpu fan to save 80 bucks and drop the price to 600.

>>57001046
Forgot to mention, I did not include an SSD because I wanted the budget to be below 700. Kraken can be removed in place of an SSD if don't mind the shitty aesthetic of a stock CPU fan.

>>57000451
Definitely don't' get the 960. R9 380 second hand if you're buying that tier. The GTX 1050Ti will be out in two weeks for $140 and it'll be way better than the 960.

>>56998358
History of insane failure rates. You can check blackblaze for specific models that performed well, but may as well just get a 7200RPM 4TB HGST for $110 or a 2TB for $50

>>57001046
>>57001109
Get a B150 mobo
Get a 240GB SSD
Get a 2TB HGST HDD
Get a binned RX 470 chip aka a factory OC'd model. You'll really want to OC it a bit (since it's a really good overclocker and reference is clocked pretty low)

Follow this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=ZhnQ7P

>>57000688
>>57000706
It was a specific thread about 1440p 144hz IPS with 500 pages. I'm willing to do a downgrade.

>>57000742
That's what I was thinking. But isn't the 1070 overkill for 1440p? I would consider the RX470 and consider an simultaneous of monitor and graphics card in a few years (That's why I wan't to do a 6600k setup now)
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/466DwV

>>57001046
>budget build
>AIO cooler
>Corsair fucking Dominator RAM
>stock/reference card
Autism, the build.

>>57001046
You can save $40 on the ram by not getting stupid expensive ram and you can save $68.79 on the cooler by not getting it.

>>57001205
How many posts do you think have been made about IPS monitors here? Well over 500 pages I'm sure.
Would you trust 4chan?

>>57001205
I'd say wait until you can afford a nice monitor. That one's only 60Hz. The nice thing about high Hz monitors is that you don't have to worry about VSYNC/tearing on new games, an on old games you can easily get an acceptable locked framerate (when you'd otherwise be getting +144FPS)

And no, the 1070 is not overkill for 1440p. In fact I'd say it's the better buy for 1440p than the 1060 considering the extra bus width

The 8GB RX 480 would be an ok card, but at this time AMD doesn't have any great current gen 14nm cards out for 1440p, unless you want a last gen Fury/X which can be had for just over $300 right now and is great for 1440p

>>57001205
1070 is overkill for 1440p at 60, 90, and sometimes 120FPS on extreme detail AAA games. It's not overkill for 1440p 144hz, in fact it usually can't hit that on heavy games. But the only thing that could beat that is 60Hz 4K, which right now is another $800-1000 extra if you need it

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>>57001301
>1070 is overkill for 1440p at 60, 90, and sometimes 120FPS
No. Look at minimums

>>57001191
i like the looks of the 1050ti, i'll hold out on the gpu for a while yet i suppose. ive read the bottlenecking already happens with the 960 and the i3 6100 so i assume it'll be the same with the 1050ti

>>57001277
I don't know what you're on about. I don't want to discuss forums or anything and I don't know what 4chan thinks about IPS specifically. I just know that there is a lot of complains about the panel build quality of 1440p IPS and 144hz in particular.
>>57001293
>>57001301
Thanks for the input. I was thinking about getting the RX480 anyway. What exactly makes the last gen Fury/X so great? Don't they have any drawbacks to the RX480 (except maybe the 8GB RAM but which games need that?)

>>57001348
No. Look at games that aren't Microsoft exclusively optimized for nothing(tm)

>>57001348
Gears of war 4 runs worse than horizon 3, which doesn't run on anything

>>57001293
Oh and by the way, I know that the BenQ Monitor only has 60Hz but at least it has a low response time.
As I stated before I really want a big IPS monitor for watching movies and I'm willing to go down from 144 to 60hz to avoid any quality issues in a much more expensive monitor.
I'm used to playing with 60Hz anyway.

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>>57001267
>>57001222
I'm trying to make an a e s t h e t i c build with a black gray and silver theme.

Yes I can save a couple bucks here and there but at the cost of losing the aesthetic completely? Not a chance.

Find me some gray silver and black components for less and I'll gladly make those changes.

Something like pic related is the look I'm shooting for.

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>>57001368
>bottlenecking already happens with the 960 and the i3 6100
Nope, i3 can handle a 480 / 1060 no problem. Can even handle a 1070 at 1440p 60Hz, but it will often be the limiting factor.>>57001369

>What exactly makes the last gen Fury/X so great?
You gen ~1070 performance for $100 less
>Don't they have any drawbacks to the RX480 (except maybe the 8GB RAM but which games need that?)
Wider bus but less (faster w/out texture compression) RAM, and for 1440p this limitation is a real concern, but it's fine for current games.
Also it will run A LOT hotter. Probably about 300W if OC'd, compared to the 120W for the 1070.

>>57001453
That game look wells optimized to me, post your own example benchmarks if you have something to say

>>57001511
>don't get window
>all cases are black or gray or silver
>component colors don't matter
>save hundreds of moneys

Corsair H75 or Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 for an i5 6600k?

>>57001511
>black RAM
Hyper X Fury Black 2133, that's a no brainer.
>muh aetatix over performance and value
At this point you should get off this board and go buy a used macbook.
>>>/fa/
>>>/lgbt/

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>>57001483
GoW is a lot more graphically intensive, just judging by the screenshots. Also GoW3 gets higher framerates

(Note this is a 1920 x 1080 benchmark.)

>>57001599
The GoW4 1080p bench is here >>56996704

>>57001539
But I like the window. Building A PC to me is kind of like an art. I like to be meticulous with my cable management and achieving an aesthetic that I can admire every single second that I spend on my computer

>>57001599
Of course though, horizon 3 can't even run 1080p/60fps on $3000 setups Microsoft just sucks dick

>>57001623
I do too, but my idea of effort spent on choosing parts is rewarding me with performance on my screen and with the extra money in my wallet, not when I pull my computer out from under the desk, open it up and stare at it.
I wanted an aesthetic build too but then realized I would save $300 by dropping the window and getting ugly parts that are on sale

>>57001726
A $600 setup will run it high settings locked 60FPS. You can do it with a 1060 or a 470.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hPrWcc

Ultra is for posterity

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First time builder here, I want something durable that will last me a reasonably long time that can be upgraded. I've always used laptops and I feel like its time to upgrade since mine is having hardware problems.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MmDwV

I want to use it for work and school with the potential to add a GPU later down the road. This board + cpu combo has integrated graphics so that's enough for now, I don't have a gaymen monitor to take advantage of the gpu anyhow.

Any recommendations for a gpu when I decide to get one? My budget for the whole build is about $900 max +/-, leaving me about $280 or so for a GPU.

Based on price/reviews I've been eyeing these:

https://www.amazon.com/GeForce-Overclocked-256-bit-DisplayPort-Graphics/dp/B00NJ9BJ8G

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Gaming-GV-N1060G1GAMING-6GD-Graphics/dp/B01IEA1IMQ

But why is the 970 $10 more than the 1060?

>>57002030
Actually it has nothing to do with the graphics card, just piss poor optimization, only 8GB ram allotted, and completely encoded files adding unreasonable demand from the CPU
Horizon 3 just runs horribly right now, it's almost like it's just a shitty console port or something...

Is anything above 8GB DDR4 - 2133hz even necessary? All benchmarks only depict a very minor increase above the mentioned frequency and capacity. At least in gaming.

>>57002050
>Non-K CPU
>Z170 board
Literally why

Also a 1060 GTX will be fine if you game on 1080p

>>57002050
>leaving me about $280 or so for a GPU
This equals a 1060 6G or 480 8G.
Get cheaper (B150/H170) mobo (if no OC), drop cooler for non K versions of CPU, get a smaller case.

>>57002050
If you get a normal retail 6500 you'll get a free cooler with it, you could maybe save 10 or 20 on a and with a $300+ budget for a GPU a 6gb 1060 would be nice for a little while

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>>57002050
Get a 240GB SSD and a 2TB HSGT HDD. Links in this build http://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8DMCy
Get 3000MHz RAM

As for a graphics card I'd get the 470, 480, 1060 3GB, or 1060 6GB. That tier graphics card can run anything well

>>57002145
Pic related

>>57002195
Elaborate?

>>57002195
>>57002229
>>57002245
Maybe he wants to overclock the CPU?

>>57002288
That's why i said IF no OC, but he should get a cheaper mobo regardless.

>>57002288
I definitely want to be able to improve upon it later so if I can have the ability to overclock that would be nice.

Let's say I didnt want to overclock for now, could I just use the stock cooler and add a 212 evo if I overclock?

Should I bother with a K cpu?

>>57002282
>>57002288
>Overclock
>Non K series CPU
You can't overclock those CPU's. Only Intel CPU's with the K added to the name (6600K, 6700K, etc) can be overclocked. To overclock those CPU's, you need a Z170 motherboard but since he isn't going that he might as well get a H170 motherboard which is cheaper since it doesnt have overclocking features.

>>57002387
If you want to OC the best would be i5-6600K + Z170 + decent cooler. EVO 212 and Cryorig H7 are good meme choices.

>>57002387
You won't be able to improve "later" you either do it now or you don't do it at all. For two reasons
1. New Intel series CPU's always use a different socket, your Z170 motherboard with 1151 socket won't be able to mount the CPU's two years from now. You will be able to mount the Kaby Lake CPU's that come out next month but that's where the ride ends.
2. Intel CPU's never drop in price. The jews at Intel's always crank down production of their current generation when they are about to release a new one. This way the transition can be done without having to drop the prices on their older generations. Just look at Broadwell CPU's they are the same fucking price as Skylake.
So either get a K series CPU now or don't bother at all.

>>57002397
Yes you can OC non K CPUs. All you need is a Z170 mobo and a BIOS update.
http://overclocking.guide/category/intel-oc-guides/skylake-non-k-oc/

>>57002397
Skylake non-k has been able to overclock since the mobo manufacturers allowed it. Intel released a patch to "fix" that "problem", but you can still overclock it with ASRock mobo. You can also revert the bios to an older version to get the OC ability again if its disabled.

>>57002397
>you can't OC non K CPUs
But you can.

>>57002472
Kabylake is same 1151

>>57002473
Yeah lets suggest to a first time builder to use a literal "OC junkie: the guide" post to OC a non K series CPU instead of fucking advising him to spend 10 extra bucks and getting a K series CPU.

>>57002499
>You will be able to mount the Kaby Lake CPU's that come out next month

I know anon, reading is hard these days but at least try.

>>57002537
>tech enthusiasts shouldn't try out proven methods

>>57002537
I merely stated the fact that it is possible to OC a non K CPU and i literally told him the best way to OC is K + Z170, see >>57002454
So stop being an autistic fuck.

>>57002609
What part of "first time builder" are you unable to get through your thick skull? Give the lad something safe and reliable instead of making have to scourge over all the OC junkie forums to make his non K series overclock work? Boy that sure was worth the 15 bucks he saved!
If he were an experienced builder I wouldve said go for it, but he isn't.

>>57002642
Thank you, your statement has been dearly noted anon.

>>57002387
>>57002397
>>57002472
>>57002642

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fWdH3F

How's this for a start? Not sure what the difference is between the Z170-A and the Z170-P but it offsets the price of the K cpu

>>57002703
Different features and over quality. A > K > P for ASUS mobos and personally i'd get the K version. Also get 3000 RAM, Corsair LPX is good.
Depending on your budget you could get a 80+ Gold rated PSU and SSD.

What's the cheapest graphics card that can power two 1440p monitors for basic daily tasks?

>>57002703
The biggest diferences are the amount of connectors and other features such as the audiochip and how well a board can handle overclocking. I would suggest the Z170-A if your budget can handle it.
Gold rated PSU is nice but not a necessity. Corsair has indeed nice LPX sicks at 3000 for only 9 bucks more. Definitly worth it.
An SSD however is a budget thing, while I would never wish to build a PC without an SSD these days I can understand if you wish to skip on it because of budget reasons. However if you don't mind slightly delaying your GPU purchase I would recommend getting a Samsung 850 EVO at 120 or 240 GB.

>Bought RX 480 Nitro+ 8gb
>Plug in monitor, black screen after loading Windows
>Everything works on integrated GPU
>Travel to work, plugged in fresh monitor we got lately, to check if this is the problem with card
>Display normally (minimal resolution, due to no drivers)

I got card too powerful for my 10+ years old 1680x1050 monitor (still with VGA plug).

You can laugh at me now.

Or perhaps Im doing it wrong and after installing drviers and plugging it in, it would work normally?

Also, said monitor have VGA plug, so I was using VGA to DVI (dual link) adapter so far. RX 480, however, use single link DVI output, two HDMI and two DP. I had VGA to HDMI adapter, so I used this one, but maybe I shouldnt? I dont have single link DVI adapter.

What would be the best course of action?

>>57003181
>Best course of action?
Getting a new monitor faggit.

>>57003308

No cheap solution to the problem, eh?

I hoped just getting that single link DVI adapter would be enough, as it might have problems with HDMI adapter.

I dont really want to get new monitor. It wont have 1680x1050 native resolution for sure and I got used to it from past 10 years. Standard now is 1080p - different aspect ratio and older games wont run as good at such huge resolutions (and being so wide).

>>57003181
Story time:
>be me
>2010
>still have CRT
>build with GTX460
>not a single shekel left after purchase
>assemble everything
>connect monitor
>stays black
>FUCK WAHT DID I DO HAVE I BROKEN SOMETHING PLEASE KILL ME
>eventually find out my CRT cant handle the GTX460
>spend almost a year without computer since no money
>finally get LCD screen and use my already obsolete hardware
Be glad anon, you could have been me.

>>56988782
Halp me /g/. Idk shit about compoopers and want a pc i can play my /k/ games on.
Looking to spend <$500ish
Is this ok?
Graphics: GTX 960
>CPU: FX 8320
>HSF: Cryorig H5
>Motherboard: MSI 970 Gaming
>RAM: 8GB DDR3
>HDD: 4TB
>Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 520
>Case: idfk

>>57003848
>Idk shit about compoopers
You have two options. Watch guides, do your research and learn to build one or buy a pre-built.
Also, use pcpartpicker you savage.

>>57003902
I made my list from logical increments. I understand how they work, just not sure what parts are considered good or not

I have an Asrock Extreme4 Z77 from about 4 years ago.

Literally every time I try to clean the damn thing it takes a lot of effort to even get it to turn back on because somehow it stops detecting my memory sticks properly even though I never touched them.

what gives

>>57003931
That's a good start and there are no bad parts listed. Anyways, what games do you even play?
Also, have you ever actually built a computer with your own hands?

>>57003990
>Have problem
>Literally every time I try to clean the damn thing...
I think you need to tell us more about that.

>>57003931
>I made my list from logical increments
That site is an abomination in my browser. And PC Parts is better for allowing alternate parts and pricing.

Anyway, you could save money on the TB if needed, go to 2TB.

That's my only suggestion.

>>57003997
This would be my first computer i built. Looking on youtube and it seems not too difficult.
Mostly stuff like STALKER, Arma, Metro 2033, or Insurgency.

>>57003997
>>57004018
Thanks

Should I get a GeForce GTX 950 or 960? I heard the 960s are prone to spontaneous combustion, is this true?

>>57004064
GTX 1060 they are usually pretty cheap and max everything (even the new Gears and Forza)

>>56989411
Stable stable stable stable stable stable

>>57004037
I don't know how much power those games require and with a tough 500$ budget it's hard to find anything good.
I'm not really a fan of AMD CPUs, but if logical increments says so, then be it.
This is what i'd build, the 950 might be a little underpowered, though. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/smn6BP

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new build time?

>>57004064
Do you not plan on playing any new games? If so, the 960 is a good card. I can emulate PS2 games with it and it has full HEVC support.

>>57004247
Why? Is it not doing everything you want?

>>57004018
basically, what happens is I unplug all the plugs from behind the tower case, lie the tower case down on its side and start wiping down the fans with a slightly damp cloth without taking anything apart

so when I plug everything back in after a while the Dr Debug code gets stuck and it doesn't even do the POST thing and I have to reseat everything for it to magically work for no reason

>>57004247
>i dont know what i want

>>57004037
I made some slight changes to the list posted by >>57004203
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKFsKZ
I want to point out is that the MOBO and GPU I chose are on sale right now, but they'll go back up in 2 days. I have no idea what your timetable is, so I wanted to point this out. Before you buy though, you owe it to yourself to lookup benchmarks for the games you care about to see if your hardware is going to be up to it.

>>57004247
Add a SSD and a better videocard.
There, problem solved.

Is an optical drive possible to install in a 200R case without removing a bunch of stuff first?

Can I play simple games or games at low settings with an i3, 4 GB RAM and no GPU?

>>57004341
>lie the tower case down on its side
>I have to reseat everything for it to magically work for no reason

Something obviously isn't seated as well as you think. Look closer at the slots, is anything caught in them, something not sitting flush?
Are you sure you know how to seat and lock ram?

>>57004766
how would it work smoothly before I cleaned it if it wasn't seated properly

>>57004760
If you mean some shitty indi games from steam, probably yes.

>>57004760
Yes but try to get a I5-6400/6500 so you dont have to upgrade your CPU in a long time.
Also 8GB so you can give it 2GB VRAM.

>>57004760
>Can I play simple games or games at low settings with an i3, 4 GB RAM and no GPU?
You mean integrated GPU. Yes but not AAA and nothing at high settings. Integrated GPUs support 3d graphics though you should check out the specs on yours, I assume that it's some Intel Mobility chip but there are others.

>>57004773
>how would it work smoothly before I cleaned it if it wasn't seated properly
Because it wasn't being tipped over.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BgXR4C

HTPC build, need a small form factor thus mini ITX.

Trying to keep it under $300. Harvested the GPU from an otherwise dead PC, figured I might as well reuse it.

Any tips or advise before I pull the trigger? Will be used primarily for media consumption, possibly some very light gaming (SNES emulators & such).

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Bought NBA 2k17 today and realized my PC is due for a overhaul when i could only run smooth fps on all low settings

Current specs

>athlon ii x4 640
>biostar a860 am3
>16gb ram
>Radeon HD 6670

My monitor is 1360x768

What's the most cost effective way to be able to play 2k17? Is just dropping in a rx 470 an option or will my cpu hold it back?

>>57004800
>If you mean some shitty indie games from steam, probably yes.
You say this, but as it turns out a lot of indie games run terrible on lower end hardware compared to regular older 3d games like ss2, hl1, quake, etc.

A particularly bad one is Starbound.
I get under one frame per second in the game meanwhile I get at least 20 fps in Terraria and games like tf2.

I am glad Vulcan and dx12 gaining ground so games can run better on lower end hardware.

>>57004849
My only suggestion would be to look at the Intel NUCs and their ilk to see if they appeal more to you.

Can I get some objective opinions on how important the PSU is?

When I first did my build, I basically looked at cost per performance, and got a non-modular 80+ 500W PSU. I'm not concerned with more wattage, I only have a GTX 750. Is it worth it to invest in something with 80+ Gold? I've been considering an EVGA G2, but I would want to get a worthwhile investment.

>>56988782
I've got a gtx 1070, but I'm playing games on a 60Hz@1080p monitor

Is it worth it upgrading to a 144Hz monitor? Most games I play don't quite get up to 144 fps and I'm autistic about screen tearing. I'd get a g-sync monitor but those all seem very expensive.

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Is this a good video editing/gaming/vr build? I have a budget of $2k and was wondering if I could make this any cheaper without sacrificing performance.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNNzvV

>>57004898
Probably because the """"""game devs"""""" who think building some game with a toolkit like sticking legos together is a good way to make games or programms at all..
Honestly, that doesn't suprise me at all.

>>57004954
What the fuck is wrong with that picture m8...
Anyways, excellent taste, your build looks like the big brother of what i want to build. The only thing i'd change is the PSU. Go for a G2. If you like swap teh 850 EVO for a PRO.

>>57004975
Okay thanks, and yeah the font rendering on my PC is fucked for some reason.

New thread boys, repost your questions

>>57004982
>>57004982

>>57004986
Loonix and wangblows?

>>57005037
Windows, it didn't use be this bad.

>>57005052
I'm on windows, too. Did you use that snipping tool? I never had any problems with rendering and such.

>>57005233
No, I just used print screen on my keyboard. That might be it.

>>57004636
Oooh nice. What if i said fuck the price range amd got an 8gb graphics card and an i7 processor?

>>57003848
Don't buy the 960. Logicalincrements has been dragging its ass on graphics cards; or just doesn't understand value but loves 'tiers' even though that they suggest retarded builds.

You want to wait two weeks for the 1050Ti. Buy the 4GB version the moment it comes out (avoiding price hikes) and you'll be fine.

You need an i3 6100. Way better single core performance and you'll have an upgrade path. The 8320 is on AM3+, a dead socket.

Here's a build for you
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=Jhyf7P
You might want to consider buying an OCZ SSD (check other builds for the link). Personally I think SSDs are awesome. You can't live without one once you've had it.

>>57004064
Either get the 1050 or 1050Ti. They're coming out in two weeks. Check the rumor mills. Both the 950 and 960 suck.

>>57004247
As the other anon said, SSD and new video card. 470/480/1060

>>57004760
If you really want to try this wait for a few months for the Zen APUs called Raven Ridge. They'll be fucking awesome. You'll probably get to play a lot of PS3/360 era games without a discrete graphics card at 1080p.

>>57004849
That APU is probably stronger than your dedicated graphics

>>57004869
Yeah, you can drop in a 470. Make sure your PSU has either a 6 pin or 6+2pin PCIe power connector, then buy a card that needs only that. The 470 will probably suffer from the CPU bottleneck, making it partially worthless unless you're considering upgrading your mobo+CPU.

Personally since that's an old CPU I'd get the 1050 or 1050Ti, which as I've stated like 50 times, are coming out in less than 2 weeks. The RX460 is also an option if you have the PCIe power connectors. If your PSU doesn't have those power connectors, you can pop in the 1050 and it'll run without them by drawing all its power through the mobo.

TL;DR Basically get the 1050Ti if you have the money (and any required power connectors), otherwise get the 1050, which are coming out at the middle of this month.

>>57004903
Personally I'd make sure to get an 80+ PSU with x2 6+2pin PCIe power connectors. If you're planning to keep it for a while (through a couple builds) you might consider a Gold PSU.

>>57004954
Swap 1080 for 1070. Don't forget the VR "target" is the 970/290, which are weaker than the 1060 / 470.
If you want a 1440p 144Hz monitor too I'd suggest waiting for the 1080Ti in Jan.

Is the i7 6700 non K a meme? I really don't care about overclocking.

>>57006624
The K CPU has a nice core clock. You'd want an aftermarket cooler for an i7, anyway. You can still get a K CPU without bothering to overclock.

However, you probably don't need an i7, and if you actually did, you could wait to check out Intel's next CPU lineup (Kaby Lake) or AMD's Zen. You'll probably be able to save some money