Hate programming/technology?

-ish

I work for a relatively small company producing world-leading technology in our field.

My colleagues all stick around working well past the end of workday and have to tell each other to "not work so much this weekend"

I leave at 5 PM sharp and don't do anything but watch TV or play video games if I'm near an electronic device

>>56994856
Thanks man, feels good that I'm not alone.

Currently on my first year in CS and I'm thinking of shifting. I guess I'd rather program as a hobby than as a career.

>>56994856
the job also sucks out my will to code in my spare time, so yes, we are probably alike OP

>>56994894
If you program as a hobby you'll have the advantage (or maybe, you'll just be all right seeing as most CS people I know program 24/7). I had the opposite problem of having fun doing CS assignments but never ever doing anything in my spare time since I considered it 'work'.

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It's not too late to swap careers. Go learn a trade.

>>>/diy/

>>56994808
this
also i don't play games and i graduated linguistics

>>56994934
Then you must, at some point, have learned to program by yourself. I went into CS knowing how to make a for and while loop and haven't spent a minute of my life programming for anything that wasn't school/work related.

>>56994808
You should never work on what you love, it'll just make you end up hating it.
I love anything tech related except consumer trash, but my work field has nothing to do about it.

then quit your job, idiot

you clearly made the wrong choice
no clue how you didn't realize it on the first semester of college desu

I sometimes program after work because I'm good at programming and really enjoy doing it
it's easy as hell and satisfying

>>56995035
>it's easy as hell
Your projects are easy as hell, that is.

>>56994808
In a similar situation. I don't enjoy programming in my own time nor do I enjoy my current internship.

Sperglords in my CS class seem to recoil when I tell them that I honestly don't give a shit about new technology x or that I haven't written my own emacs plugin yet

I mostly go home and play vidya

>>56995053
some people are naturals, don't beat your self up :)

>>56995035
I found it fun when it was just 'do this piece of coursework' and had no idea that I would be so behind everyone else if I didn't spend every waking moment programming like my co-workers do. Can't quit as I have no other skills.

>>56995061
If you're still at Uni and haven't invested 4+ years of your life and a bunch of debt do something about it now, believe me it won't get better.

I sometimes feel the same way, but maybe it's because you're working on a product you don't care about for some faceless corporation?

Maybe if you were working on your own things, then you would be passionate about it? Maybe open your own company?

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>>56994808
LMAO OP in pic related is having a breakdown

>>56995149
I'm during a year placement now and then will be returning to uni in September for my final year. After that I'm just going to find something different and be grateful that I got several years of solid work experience and a STEM degree behind me.

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>>56995061
>tfw realized in my senior year EE I don't want to spend the rest of my life working with autistic sperglords

>>56995183
OP here, that's not me.

>>56995170
No, I genuinely have no interest in it, never made my own project and never have any ideas.

>>56995189
I really wish I had other skills and could do this, but going from an all right junior dev salary to minimum wage is a no-no.

>>56995242
Learn other skills. >>56994924

>>56994808
this

i started programming as a hobby and decided to enter cs degree. now work as a junior dev and absolutely hate my hobby now.

>>56995242
I never made my own projects either, but after being almost 6 years in the industry, I now have an idea and I really would like to make it a reality.. only problem is that this job drains so much of my time and energy..

Let's see what happens :-)

Don't worry, just keep at it and learn as much as you can. Maybe the next job/project you get will be more interesting. Even if you love programming, doesn't mean you'll enjoy every aspect of it. I hate front end development for example, but sometimes you just gotta do it...

ive been working for a few months and ive had feelings of hating computers and technology midway in uni
its the same driveling bullshit like everything else
what ted kaczsyinski was saying was right although not in that extreme sense
computers, technology are eventually controlled by large organizations

literally my life

>get into programming when I'm like 10 years old with some gamemaker tier shit called the games factory and then VB6, Java, C etc
>take every programming course in high school and ace them and code in my spare time for fun at home
>do software development post secondary
>get job out of college as technical writer for small software developer
>work my way up to junior developer
>suddenly I'm working 50-60+ hour salary weeks and weekends with a bunch of disgruntled assholes who get fired and replaced a few times every year
>there's no clear direction, development is guided by requests from customers and we have bug fixes and feature requests in the ticket system that just blatantly contradict each other and nobody is allowed to do anything but shrug and fuck up the code more
>cloak and dagger guess-who-is-getting-laid-off-next shit every single day, support department hates software department with a passion
>upper management is a bunch of ex-military MBAs who are absent and only come by every month or two to yell at people
>turn into a massive alcoholic waking up on the floor once or twice a week to cope with this bullshit
>get fired
>it's impossible to pursue career further because I live in a rural area
>have completely given up on software and been NEETing for three years with no other skills

>>56995242
Develop new skills in your free time, take classes, do MOOCs or just find something and slowly develop a skill set for what you'd like to do. I know lots of people who back to college and do a masters (such as an MBA) to change path, so that's also an option.

>>56995329
Sound you like burned out senpai. I saw this shit at my intern place as a student working there half-time. 30+ year old workers with dead eyes.

Just start something new you enjoy.

>>56994808

OP, if you are not that interested in actually programming you should switch company.

A lot of "non-tech" companies hire someone to be their IT-guy, which means you have to do some minor tech stuff (i.e. update their CMS system) and fix their shit (i.e. upgrade win7 to win 10, google hardware problems).

A friend of mine works as hardware support for a big company, this also sounds like a pretty cozy job (most of the time it's "well, did you press this button? OK, now it works? Cool, have a nice day..")

A differnt frient works for a library, """programming""" their database...

You see, there's a lot of options.


(That said, maybe you should find a different IT-company that will give you a second wind and make you a passionate programmer. But if you don't want to, there's a lot of "low level" IT jobs out there.. )

>>56994808
>Roped into a CS degree because you had to do something but find they actually hate it? No other skills so I'm probably fucked.
Fucking this man.
I started out as a bio major, wanted to be a doctor, but the incessant memorization made me want to kill myself.
I took AP CS in high school and I enjoyed it a lot, so I thought I'd switch over to CS as my degree.
I fucking hate it. It's more esoteric than a nigger's anus and none of the teachers ever give you straight forward answers to your questions. I want to kill myself every day and I can't think of a torture more punishing than this. In my second year, I transferred to a major tech school, thinking I'd enjoy CS even more with a school that has a proper CS program. Before I transferred, my dad kept going on and on about how my school was filled with niggers and that it was a scam. Ended up paying for that school myself. I figured he'd be happier if I transferred schools and he'd shut his bitch ass up about going to a scam school. But no, nothing's good enough for him. I bust my ass just to get bare minimum passing grades and he can't recognize it. Paying for school myself because the cheapskate refuses to have anything to do with me.
>inb4 hurr durr u r an ungrateful bastard
On top of this, as if to add insult to injury, I got an internship solely because I happened to transfer to the best CS school in the state. Literally, that's it. I royally fucked up the interviews, but apparently, going to a good school is all an employer looks for. I enjoy the job and I have no complaints, but I can't help but feel like I cheated my way into it somehow. I had applied to internships before at my old school, but I was always turned down after the first round of interviews. Jesus Christ, getting a job isn't about being knowledgeable, it's about keeping up appearances. I hate this all so goddamn much. I'd give anything to be a literal fucking retard, just so I wouldn't have to participate in the rat race that is society.

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>>56995574
My mind, verbatim.
Some day I happen to quit.
Become NEET husbando
my wife hates me
she left

Now I'm comfy. Drugs and shells. Life's good.

as i'm getting older i'm more and more disgusted with technology in general. I'm still amazed with it but i hate the way people use it. Everyone is on their phones, everyone put tech stuff all over the place, you can't get away from it, people freak out over batteries, now memes are everyday thing and everyone IRL is behaving like newfags who discovered 4chan

I just want to use technology to make some hydroponics farm and automate the shit out if it...

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>>56995685
Oh wow. Well maybe it wouldn't have happened if we didn't let da j00s getting near CPU furnaces.

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Exact same thing here.

Please end my suffering

Why are you even here?

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>>56995574
>>56995662
>>56995685

Welcome to the post-materialim stage.
Glad you made it, bros.

>http://users.ox.ac.uk/~nuff0084/polsoc/PostmaterialismLecture.pdf

>>56995773
Sure being mature has everything to do with sucking lobbyist dicks all day.

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>>56995822

No, it's exactly the other way arround.

It's about making up your own mind, upholding your own values. Living your own life instead of walking a path others have walked before.

But you have to search for yourself, nobody is gonna spoonfeed you the answers..

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If you seriously think it is possible to get anything good out of meditation while being an active part of society you're drying your tears with glass fiber wool.

We live in between two radical eras and we have to fully support he transition to 21st century.
Let ir rot, in order to use the corpse to grow plants.
If we want a place in this future of ours we have to master mechanics, electronics and software.

Doing so for private companies is pure waste.

Tomorrow it will be war between man and machine. We have to make those robots our bitches or it's gonna be the other way around.

Just keeping self up to date about technology is exhausting shit.

I feel the technophoby growing in me.

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What's wrong with "spoon feeding" programming answers? I find it much more useful to look at working examples of something and understand the logic behind it, rather than read some vague documentation.

Same here OP but I only find programming fun when I do my own projects. Being a code monkey is seriously not fun.

I want to start my own business eventually

>>56996375
Thanks for sharing friend. Personally I find the entirety not fun, which is why I've never bothered to program unless I *had* to (ie Uni, work).

>>56996071
You can't easily take an axe to a piece of software, but you can easily take an axe to a piece of machinery.

>>56996260
Examples are always the right answer.

>>56995128
t. webdev

>>56996260
>using old busted java.io
>not fucking based NIO

what an awful answer

>>56995574
I started in biochem. Switched to plants. Graduated, got one hell ass job where some old bitch screamed at me about how I don't know how to grow shit for rich as yuppies in expensive apartments.

I clean ice machines now. Never looking back.

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>>56996586
>machinery isn't essential goods for the post-modern era we entered
Interactive == vulnerable to injection

>>56996260
It's because spoon feeding is not scalable.

If your language has 1000 functions and you want to know how to combine 3, you need one billion spoon-feeding answers.

Instead, you write 1000 docs, one for each function, and let people combine them. Literally one millionth of the work.

>>56996639
t. asspained talentless fuck

>>56996260
All I needed was a specific function in the package. Instead, someone vomited me a 3 page essay to read the 50 page documentation. Welcome to stack exchange.

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>>56994808

I'm completely burned out. I grew out of the programming a few years ago and graduated to a management position

I hate computers, don't own one, and wish I had learned a trade instead of how to write code.

Fuck technology

I just resent the idea that anyone who has an interest in computers must become a programmer. The two things are not as related as they seem at first examination. Many people would be better suited to learn some particular useful piece of software like photoshop, blender, premiere, or AutoCAD. Programming is only one part of the equation. You need people to put the software to work.

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>>56996777
check'd

>>56996749
in the 21st century programming literally IS a trade

go become a plebian of a locksmith instead I guess

>>56996777
Programmer is where most of the money's at. Not a lot will pay you 90k/year to do photoshop, but many will pay you 90k/year to program.

>>56994808
I love programming and I absolutely loathe technology, OP. It's a pretty awkward place to be in. I would happily live an Uncle Ted-like existence if the woods weren't all under trust groups here.

>>56996939
You have to be autistic to make 90k/year as a programmer. I am not making a joke here. That's your competition.

>>56995773
I hate that retarded image so, so much

>>56996871

If I could make the same or near the same salary, I would absolutely rather be a locksmith, no question

>>56994808
I fear this a bit. Honestly, I don't know if I i will be happy with any career, so I am taking some action now.

After I get my first "good" job I will continue to live below my means. This way I can save money for whatever new hobbies or interests I have. After work, I can do whatever I please with my time.

>>56994808
Nobody forced you to Major in Computer Science.

anyone got any good ideas for freelance-type work or trades? anything that you can learn and don't have to do some bullshit degree for

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>>56997545
http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/

requires a lot of low level knowledge, but just keep at it don't give up.

Depends on the job, for sure. I have friends from school that busted there asses to work at Amazon, Google, whatever and they usually hate it (overworked) even with high salaries. I just graduated and work easily half the time they work and make >$10k less a year

>>56996978
Well i used the moto of "Fake it till you make it" and now make 110k/year. Having a masters in Embedded and Control helps too. Specialise yourself in something and you will make the cash. You also won't have to be a codemonkey...

1000%. When I started studying CS I assumed I'd eventually pick up an interest in programming, but I never really did. Luckily I did end up loving the pure theory side of it, so now all I really do is read and write papers without ever having to deal with actual code.

It's a tricky situation since you've specialised in such a technical field so it's hard to just quit and start working somewhere completely different. Maybe try finding a less competitive company? I think a big part of what turned me off coding wasn't the actual process of programming but just the people who claimed to be interested in it. It only becomes really bad if you feel pressured to be better than everyone around you and make it your life.

>>56997601
How much can you make realistically ?

>>56997736
>>56996978

Seniority helps, too. I'm a fresh grad, I work with someone at my workplace who got into Hadoop/Spark/Elastic Search stuff (big buzz word technologies now). Writes a few small scripts a day, automates deployment of these systems, comes in probably just under 30 hours a week and gets paid an ass load of money

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>>56997796
>google
you should look it up but low level stuff and some higher level/easier stuff:
https://hackerone.com/

could net you hundreds/thousands, or >10k if you are really gangsta as fuck.

>>56997715
*<
oops retarded

Have you ever worked another job before?

I do mobile development with a focus in infosec and its pretty comfy. I make >80k a year, get to work from home most days, 30 days PTO. Way better than manual labor.

>>56998138
First job, my knowledge is pretty poor so it's unlikely I'm going to be anything but a code monkey for the forseeable future.

>tfw love CompSci but don't want to work with social outcasts for the rest of my life so dropping out

>>56999800
I have not seen a single outcast in a corporate dev environment yet

that might be because the whole 'outcast' thing disappears after high school

come back when you're 18+, kiddo

>>56999853
t. asocial autist

>>57000006
t. NEET loser who knows nothing about society beyond what retards parrot on 4chan

Autists would never get into a corporate dev environment in the first place

>>57001172
Hope you enjoy your marketing bullshit meetings, fake smiles, overtime and >>56995329
.