/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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Hey Debian people, I have a question:
How do you reliably discover which xserver-xorg-video-* and xserver-xorg-input-* to install? I don't want to waste time and storage space installing xserver-xorg-*-all.

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install smeagol

>>56584589
By knowing what drivers/hardware you use. For foss nvidia drivers for example it is *-noveau

>>56584734
That's pretty much what I was doing, but I was hoping there was a command or package that could identify it for me when I'm on hardware that I'm less familiar with.

>>56584589

lshw -c display

Alright, /g/ I need help. I am a complete Linux babby, just taking a course for in at my local community college. I need to SSH into this local raspberry pi. This worked fine yesterday, but today when I try instead of asking for pi's password it asks for the password of my current profile, and neither password allows me to connect.
What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>56584947
ssh user@server

>>56585001
Thank you, kind anon. For some reason yesterday it was prompting me for the username then password, like I was logging in through TTY.

>>56584947
>>56585001
I'd like to also add on that the commands:

ssh --help

or

man ssh

to read what the help file and manual says. You will remember things a lot better if you find the answers yourself, and you will learn how to find this info in the fist place.

>>56584571
What do you chaps use to read your mail?

>>56585128
Icedove

>>56585128
Alpine here. Most people use Thunderbird I assume.

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Based Arch

>>56584620
Ok I've installed xbindkeys, read some man pages and have the buttons working, but after rebooting it appears to have not worked until I opened a terminal and ran 'xbindkeys'. I'm assuming I have to make xbindkeys run on startup?

>>56585128
Google Chrome

>>56585197
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xbindkeys#Making_changes_permanent

>>56585245
disgusting

>>56585183
Gentoo > Arch in every way

>>56585256
ya mad furrycuck?

>>56585128
ChrOpera. It's pretty comfy desu.

>>56585245
based

What's up /flt/? Been using Ubuntu MATE for some time now. Installed on a 250GB ssd separate from my windows 10 install because in the past, windows kept eating my Ethernet driver for Linux. That said, I've randomly been having GRUB freeze on Me. Like 1 our of every 10 boots, GRUB freezes when attempting to select which OS to boot.

Is it possible to install Linux to a flash drive? I mean actual install, not a live boot. And would I still need GRUB to boot off of said USB?

Maybe just the install on my current ssd was dirty and needs a refresh?

Is there any difference if I

sudo emerge --ask www-client/firefox

or if I

sudo emerge --ask firefox

?

>>56585277
Gentards aren't bleeding edge

Newer = better than

Thank you to the anon(s) who helped me fix my keyboard volume buttons, you're awesome.

>>56585352
>Is it possible to install Linux to a flash drive?
Yes.
>And would I still need GRUB to boot off of said USB?
If you have UEFI, you don't need any bootloader.
If not, you can use a bootloader other than GRUB2, like SYSLINUX for example.

>>56585406
Gentoo has more freedom and more simplicity. Try uninstalling systemd and let me know how that goes, mate.

>>56585466
Systemd is based

>changed thread name to /fglt/
cancer

>>56585355
No

Portage will babysit you and throw a prompt if it gets multiple matches for a general query

>>56584772
Thanks mang

>>56584947
Alright, I need more help. I've managed to succeed at forwarding X11 to my laptop, but the GUI for things is incredibly slow. For example, there's a delay of 3-4 seconds when I scroll up/down.

>>56585572
Still doesn't change the fact that Arch _requires_ systemd, and you need to break the core of the system to change that. Gentoo provides a lot more freedom in every way.

>>56585463
My motherboard is a Z170 chipset, hence windows 10 out of necessity because 7 wouldn't install. It has UEFI and I installed Windows 10 from disc. How does UEFI replace the bootloader?

And after a little googling. It appears installing to a USB is as simple as manually changing the bootloader location to install on the USB rather than the internal drives.

Also seems there is a guide for Windows 10 UEFI install too.

Question is, is UEFI just the new loader? If I select UEFI install when installing Linux, does it still install GRUB?

>>56585466
>Gentoo has ... more simplicity
lolno

>>56585620
UEFI boots programs called EFI applications, and linux can be loaded as such an application, meaning the firmware directly starts linux. See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFISTUB for details.

>>56585611
I was just trolling desu anon, I'm really bored sorry

>>56585620
>My motherboard is a Z170 chipset, hence windows 10 out of necessity because 7 wouldn't install
You what?

>>56585466

>freedom
Stop misusing words. Both have the same amount of freedom, assuming you're using the same package. They have the same license. That's what freedom means in this context.
The word you are looking for is choice.

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>>56585640
Gentoo is a very simple system. The foundation of the operating system is not obscured through over-engineering the way Ubuntu is, or any other babby distribution.

>>56585658
It's okay, anon. I still love you.

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What's the username/password for KDE Neon login?

>>56585685
Choice is a consequence of freedom. If you're referring to how Stallman uses the word, I would capitalize the "F".

>>56585726
https://dot.kde.org/2012/07/24/introducing-project-neon-kvm

ctrl + f "default"

>>56585726
looks like your picture was scared and fell down. Please help it up again

>>56585610
Anyone? All I can find is people saying to use different encryption methods, and that didn't help at all.

Comfiest file manager?

>>56585894
What do you need it to do? I would suggest Thunar for most people.

>>56585837
https://superuser.com/questions/166359/top-causes-of-slow-ssh-logins

I'm trying to set up i3lock with an image but all the images I try seem to be really zoomed in, is there an argument to pass to correct this or do I need to edit the pictures to be a certain size?

>>56585937
Nothing special, just don't have one installed.

>>56584571
>Please be civil
>Penguin pissing
Nice passive aggressive shitposting thread senpai.

>>56585657
Thanks I'll take a look
>>56585661
Z170/H170 boards have USB 3.0/3.1/C as their standard. Even the "USB 2" ports on my board are apparently not true 2.0 and still controlled by a 3.0 driver. Windows 7 has no native USB 3 drove during the install.

Tried slip streaming the driver during install and it still says no go.

>>56585960
There's nothing in

man i3lock

about this, so I'm going to assume that you should change the size.

>>56586026
Thanks anon. I did read the manpage prior to posting, but since this is my first time using it I figured I'd just ask. Just edited the pic and it works perfectly.

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>>56585741
Choice has nothing to do with freedom, pal. Freedom is not being under control. If freedom was about choice, poor people wouldn't be free because they can't buy a car of their choice and a guy with a broken leg wouldn't be able to jump around.

To systemd: people may argue about the philosophy of it's structure as init system, but there's no reason to argue about freedom; systemd is free software, so you are free not to use it, to change it, or install something different.

>>56586099
quoted the wrong guy?

I really enjoy how nobody replied to 56585985.
Good job /fglt/.

>>56585955
Changing that didn't help because it's not SSH in general, but exclusively X11 forwarding. But with that I decided to try using the -vvv parameter like someone else did.
Every time I do anything, my terminal outputs literally hundreds of 'rcvd [five digit number]' and 'window 2031616 sent adjust [five-digit number]'

>>56586151
found the single one guy who can't into filters

>>56586099
>Choice has nothing to do with freedom, pal.
Again, choice is a consequence of freedom.

>poor people wouldn't be free because they can't buy a car of their choice
...what in the fuck are you talking about? They are free to buy anything they want so long as they have the money to do so. If they were able to get anything for free, their "freedom" would be infringing upon the freedoms of others. As I once read, "your right to swing your fist stops where my face begins".

>and a guy with a broken leg wouldn't be able to jump around.
I...uh...okay.

>systemd is free software, so you are free not to use it, to change it, or install something different.
You literally can't install something different though. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>56586154
What exactly do you expect? X-forwarding is slow.

>>56586185
If you can't do it, okay, doesn't mean that nobody can. :^)

>>56586185
>You literally can't install something different though.
Then tell me how Devuan or any other forks exists? Do you even know how to remove anything from your distro? holy kek

>>56586252
>Fork of Debian
Read the entire convo before you respond, shit head.

>>56586185
>as long as people have the money, they are free
You're really retarded

In which case is it preferable to use fedora vs ubuntu/debian?

>>56586279
If you like doing it for free, get fedora, the testing distro for RHEL. Everything that doesn't break on Fedora goes into RHEL.

>>56586278
>You're really retarded
Nice rebuttal.

>>56586279
Mostly if you want to use yum.

>>56586222
Ripping systemdicks out from Debian is an absolutely terrible idea.

>>56585763
Thank you friend

>>56585772
4chan does this with all the pictures I take

I think it has something to do with stripping the xcif data

>>56586279
Fedora is the tipper side of freedom. While they have strict rules for programs (everything must be free), they make exceptions for drivers.

>>56586343
>>56586305
>>56586296
I don't really need/want to go full libre, and have some experience with ubuntu.
Besides their philosophy, are there any "advantages" to picking debian?

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>>56585572
This. It's pointless not to have systemd in modern Linux systems

>>56585894
Picture

>>56586364
There are literally none. I wouldn't install Ubuntu with Unity, but Lubuntu and Ubuntu MATE are great. Debfags will say things about "muh stability", but when pressed, no one is able to come up with significant ways in which Debian and Ubuntu differ.

>>56586364
"advantage" would be stability at this point Ubuntu is more ahead of the curve but less "stable". There is not true advantage to just to/from fedora/debain for really anything other than trying a new system.

Ubuntu is pretty centered around a usable desktop experience and Fedora is aimed at enterprise computer users.

>>56586423
>Ubuntu is more ahead
When will this meme die.
Debian has 3 branches, stable, testing and unstable.

>>56586437
>Hold back packages for half a dacade
>"""Stable"""
Epic meme

Trying to test flashrom before installing libreboot for the first time. I type in the following into the terminal

> ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev1.0,spispeed=512

And get "Permission denied." Does anyone have any idea where I goofed? I'm honestly pretty bad with this sort of stuff and I'm trying to learn.

>>56586474
You probably need root access for this so use sudo.

Can i play my games sitll on linux? Like steam and emulators and shit?

>>56586396
I actually don't dislike Unity, but I really have no use for more than half the stuff that comes with it, and want to get more proficient with the command line

>>56586493

At the risk of making myself look like a total idiot and pleb, does that mean I type in "sudo" before the ./flashrom command? Or do I have to use some other tool or method?

I typed in

> sudo ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev1.0,spispeed=512

And it said it couldn't find the ./flashrom command.

>>56586517
Steam is natively supported on Linux. But currently the number of games are limited.

Not like you use your computer to play games only anyways

>Picture
Looks like a shit file manager.

>>56586572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TbbvXK5QS8

>>56586532
>>56586532
Is this a program you installed yourself, or a package manager installed for you?

>>56586644
Still a shitty file manager hun.

>>56586663

I used WinSCP to manually transfer the files into the smaller computer. No package manager was involved.

I think the larger problem here is that I'm not entirely sure how SSH works. I'll do a bit more reading on this and try to figure it out. I simply know too little right now to explain my situation.

>>56586676
Point proven

>>56586719
If it was not found, that means you are not in the correct directory. Navigate with cd to where you extracted the file, and look for the flashrom executable. Then you can sudo ./flashrom (though you shouldn't need sudo for this unless you're installing).

>>56586726
>you don't agree with me you must be autistic
Ok son, sorry you can't in to functionality.

>>56586754

Gotcha. I probably placed it into the wrong directory.

Thanks. I'll tinker with it a bit longer.

>>56586572
Are you retarded? Stop talking to yourself

>>56586794
Having a bad day babe? Maybe take a paracetamol and a lie down.

>>56585466
>Try uninstalling systemd
Why? Everyone but you slobs use systemd. How's about dropping the special snowflake act or fuck off to Cannonical, they like to do things their way too.

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>>56586808
>>56586794
>>56586764
>>56586572

>>56586831
>I know I don't have the freedom to uninstall systemd, so I will change the topic of discussion to whether or not systemd is "good" in my opinion.

>>56586844
I'm trying sweetie, I really am.

Any good tutorials for first steps into zsh? I want to see if it's really better.

Anyone use stumpwm here? I'm learning Common Lisp, and I've been searching for a project to contribute to. Hopefully I like it once I get a chance to tinker with it tonight.

>>56586919
You don't have the freedom to remove udev, Linux, fstab, X11, coreutils, less, mdadm, pciutils, s-nail, usbutils etc

Show that your system can run without those. Post a screenshot

>>56587012
If that's what you want install prezto or ohmyzsh to see what it can do without setting everything up yourself. If you like it then set up your own config.

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>>56587032
>ohmyzsh
https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/lol/lol.plugin.zsh
wake me up

I'm a complete Linux noob. What distro should I install on a used laptop with decent specs? I'm mainly doing it to learn Linux, but I don't want to start with something that I'll need a lot of knowledge to get working

>>56586831
Nope. You're a dipshit who's probably too new to even know we all used your special init before systemd. Being a luddite is not going to make you cool. Your distro sucks shit and you only cling to it because you know half the kids here will never install it, therefore, they can't prove otherwise.You want admiration from your peers? Try taking a bath or leaving the basement, better yet, stop being such a douche.

>>56587062
Did you read what I wrote moron?

>>56587073
ubuntu to learn
debian to live
avoid arch and linux mint
install gentoo

>>56587113
What's wrong with Mint? I was thinking it or Ubuntu to start out with

>>56587019
>>56587019
Alternatives to almost all of these exist, friend. Does your distribution not allow you to change these things the same way it forces you to use the devs' choice of init system?

>>56587162
Nothing is wrong with Mint. Linux is about choice. Install whatever you want. Mint is a great place to learn. The only thing I disagree with >>56587113 about is "debian to live". Debian is literally the exact same thing as Mint or Ubuntu. It's only for autists who don't want to tell people they're using ubuntu.

>>56587162
Nothing. They withhold packages to let Ubuntu users be their guinea pigs. Idea is since Debian (Ubuntu's base) holds packages for 2 weeks to test, they should follow suit to ensure safety and reliability. "Problem" is that they do this to everything, including security patches, so they're a bit slow to fix security flaws.
They also had their D/L links spoofed one time with compromised images.

>>56587162
>>56587230
Mint is the worst distro. It's broken and insecure.
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

>>56587113
>gentoo
Stallman does not approve.

>>56587338
Stallman has been irrelevant for years.

>>56587338
What is that toe skin eating fuck complaining about now?

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>using any non-FSF approved distro

>>56586199
Several seconds of display between commands and taking five seconds just to render the webpage is normal? Why the fuck does this protocol even exist, then?

>>56587356
So has any init, other than systemd.

>>56587448
Umm yeah sure thing son.

>>56587360
>being this new

>>56587360
>Gentoo includes installation recipes for a number of nonfree programs in its primary package system.

>>56587190
>almost all of these exist,
Please go ahead and prove that they add up to a functional system

I don't know any distro that has alternatives for those

>>56587113
Avoid debian like you avoid SJW cancer

Why a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04 and mpv doesn't have hardware decoding?

>>56587113
10/10

>>56587616
Have you set mpv to do that?

>>56587073
Install Manjaro or Antergos. I'd suggest Korora as well but it's just insanely bloated

>>56587688
I did, it is working now. The problem was that youtube-dl was fetching vp9 instead of h264 so I added

ytdl-format=bestvideo[height<=?1080][vcodec!=vp9]+bestaudio/best

Didn't need to do that in Arch though...

>>56587714
Maybe a different (older) version of youtube-dl then.

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>>56587366
this nigga gets it

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Query 1.
>Background:
So I just forwarded port for my torrent client.

>Problem:
By opening a port, my system may be vulnerable to bots

>Goal:
I need to define a user (torusr) that has access to only one directory (and its subdirectories). How do I do that?


Query 2.
>Background:
My local IP of my home "server" keeps changing (between 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.7)

>Problem:
1. Random changes like this require me to re-configure port-forwarding on my router
2. It also requires me to re-configure my SFTP server (NFS)

>Goal:
I want my local IP to remain the same for good


Query 3.
>Background:
I use SFTP server

>Problem:
Browsing files are horribly slow. Even HPN-SSH is not a help

>Goal
Tweak tips? Is it possible to pass "-C" flag (compression) from the file manager?

Thanks in advance

what's your hostname?

>>56588560
If you are replying to me (>>56588518) it's called "tertiary".

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>that hot feeling of your trusty main-distro USB when you finish a fresh linux install on a new thinkpad

>>56587448
I use systemD but runit is bretty gud

How many characters minimal should a password be? Is 12 good enough with upper and lowercase, numbers, and symbols.

>>56588930
40 is generally a good minimun. 100-200 to be safe.

>>56584571
Salix, for the lazy slacker

>>56588726
Ich möchte nur einmal kurz etwas einwerfen. Was sie als Linux bezeichnen ist in Warheit GNU/Linux, oder wie ich es vor kurzem zu bezeichen begonnen habe, GNU plus Linux. Linux an sich ist kein Betriebssystem, sondern eine weitere freie Komponente eines voll Funktionsfähigen GNU Systems, welches durch die GNU corelibs, shell utilities und andere wichtige System Komponente nützlich gemacht wird und ein Betriebssystem ist, wie es durch das POSIX definiert ist.

Viele Computer Nutzer benutzen eine modifizierte Version des GNU Systems jeden Tag ohne es zu bemerken. Durch eine Eigenartige Wendung wird die Version von GNU, die heute weit verbreitet ist, of Linux genannt und viele der Nutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es eigentlich das GNU System, welches von dem GNU Projekt entwickelt wurde.

Es existiert wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, jedoch handelt es sich dabei nur um einen Teil ihres Systems. Linux ist ein Kernel: das Programm im System welches die durch die Maschine bereitgestellten Ressourcen an andere laufende Programme verteilt. Der Kernel ist ein essentieller Teil eines Betriebssystems,aber ohne den Rest des Systems nutzlos; er kann nur in Zusammenarbeit mit dem Rest des Systems funktionieren. Linux wird für gewöhnlich in Kombination mit dem GNU Betriebssystem verwendet: Das ganze System ist eigentlich GNU mit dem Linux Kernel, oder GNU/Linux. Alle so genannten Linux Distributionen sind in Warheit Distributionen von GNU/LINUX!

installed linux mint on x220, the fucker had random boot freezes after login. why is mint so bad?

anw, installing ubuntu mate

>>56589050
if you removed gnu/linux and linux i wouldve google translated it

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I know, /g/ is not for games. But my question is for freefriends, not vidyafags. And there are no freefriends on /v/.

Minecraft started to use Microsoft's Privacy Policy some weeks ago. I decided to stop playing it, because I don't want Windows' 10 "telemetry" (spying) inside my computer. Am I acting right?

>>56589194
>am I acting right?

freedom is always more important than vidya games

What's a good WM to use with KDE as a replacement for Kwin? Tired of it fucking up on me.

>>56589348
TWM

Anyone uses OVH VPSes for hobby stuff? I'm thinking of migrating there from DO because by adding $2 per month I'll get x8 times more RAM, but this sounds too good to be true

how fast can I go full linux?

how fast did you become linuxman?

>>56588518
>Query 1
adduser, chmod, chown

>Query 2
Refer to the manual for your router

>>56587073
Find someone to help you with Linux and install the distro they're familiar with

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each desktop environment?

>>56589415
About a month to be fully familiar with commands, etc.
About 3 months.

How can I combat very bad performance of Firefox on Ubuntu? Compared to Firefox on Windows it's too slow, I will sometimes get a 1 second visual lag when typing characters into this box.

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>>56586517
Depends on how much games do you need

Some non-specific games? Yes.
Specific titles or a lot of those? No, you'll probably have to keep your Windows install.

>>56589415
Install Gentoo

>>56588726
>saving a thumbnail

>>56589546
Disable hardware acceleration

>>56587586
>I don't know
How about you use Google?

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All right Linux masters... teach me about Bluetooth.

I just plugged in Iogear Bluetooth 4 dongle, I went to Bluetooth System settings and there's fucking nothing there.

How do I get it working? I have a set of BT speakers that I got for free that I wanna use with my Linux PC.

BTW, I plugged in into my Windows 10 laptop and it was setup immediately and it connected to my BT speakers.

so, I'm running lightdm + awesomewm. Should I create a new desktop entry for lightdm to execute my xinitrc?

Eyo boys so I'm retarded and would appreciate help.

I deleted my Linux partition and with it GRUB, is it possible to install GRUB with just windows from a linux live cd?

>>56589789
Google says there's none

>>56589990
>drivers

>>56589995
lightdm is a layer above awesome dekstop entry wont do anything

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>>56584571
A thought just hit me -

8 gb of RAM isn't enough to run an efficient GPU passthrough setup, is it?

>>56590110
so how can i make sure it starts xscreensaver and etc?

>>56587062
oh no.
someone created a set of aliases that are not in the default installation
oh no.
this is optional
oh no
you have aliases i wouldn't use
oh no
customization

>>56590014
Alright faglords you had your time, I'm just gonna get Ubuntu installer to sort out the partitions and hopefully not break anything.

>>56590148
make a keybind that launches xscreensaver and locks the screen

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>>56590094
there are drivers for it. it, apparently, is the most well supported BT dongle on the market.

I cant do shit with it tho:

$ lsusb
...
Bus 001 Device 084: ID 0a5c:11e8 Broadcom Corp. BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0
...


$ hciconfig
hci0:    Type: BR/EDR  Bus: USB
    BD Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00  ACL MTU: 0:0  SCO MTU: 0:0
    DOWN INIT RUNNING 
    RX bytes:48 acl:0 sco:0 events:3 errors:0
    TX bytes:12 acl:0 sco:0 commands:4 errors:0

$ hciconfig -a hci0
Can't get device info: No such device

WTF MAN!?

>>56590167
but that won't lock the screen after x amount of time

>>56590177
You should google
You may have to compile it in your kernel
You didnt reboot after adding in modules

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>>56590193
Read the manual...
holy shit

>>56590271
lolis don't have developed boobies

>>56590271
What results do you get when searching "girls getting punched in the stomach" on Coogle?

>>56590297
she's 14 or something

>>56590271
the goddamn fucking manual tells me to start it using xinitrc, which you fucking told me wont do shit with lightdm

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Lads, need your help. I'm not exactly bright in terms of GNU, but I'm thinking about installing something on a fairly old, somewhat trashed laptop, as I'm not satisfied with the performance of (whatever the fuck is installed on it, I don't even know at this point)
Any distro recommendations? I mostly want to use it for just basic desktop things, so no need for anything too special.

>>56590297
oppai
>>56590345
man xscreensaver
xscreensaver -switchthatlocksxsession

>>56590399
I don't want a button that locks the screen, I want to start it on login, and lock after x minutes of inactivity

Why is Debian Stretch version of apt so slow? It gets stuck at "Working 0%" whenever I want to install something new. This didn't happen with Jessie version.

>he is using a screensaver

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>>56590471
IT FUCKING DOES YOU RETARD MOTHER FUCKING CUNT
FUCKING GOOGLE
XSCREENSAVER LOCK XSESSION ON START

FUCK YOUR SHIT NIGGER

>>56590476
Thats why there are many mirrors. Choose a faster one.

>>56590491
Who is, son?

>>56590514
This doesn't seem to be the problem. I used the same mirror with the older version and it worked pretty fast. Also, it gets stuck before it actually tries downloading the packages, not during the process.

unbound
squid
dnssec
dnscrypt

Anything else network related i can play around with?

>>56590713
iptables

>>56590783
Already using iptables to tunnel everything in to said services system wide

>>56590713
tor, torify

>>56590713
What dns server are you using? Still not sure which to choose.

>>56590832
for dnscrpyt?
ns0.dnscrypt.is

what do you use for general programming in lisp/scheme?

>>56590355
Any of them would be fine. There is no definitive distribution for "fairly old, somewhat trashed laptop". I'd just use Lubuntu.

>>56591261
Well, it's a somewhat shitty Satellite that is about as dirty as my basement, so yeah. I'm running Ubuntu on my main PC, so I might just go with that again (or again, use any other flavor, I just went with Ubuntu due to absolute babby knowledge of Linux)
I might feel more adventurous with it and put something completely different, though.
Well, let's phrase it this way: what distro do you recommend for somewhat slightly better performance without taking a (big) hit to user accessibility?

>>56591359
Ubuntu MATE, Lubuntu, Xubuntu (in that order).

>>56591515
Alright, thanks.
Probably just gonna go with Lubuntu and rice it up a bit then (I don't like MATE that much)

are you guys advocates for open source software or do you simply take advantage all the stuff the schmucks who are advocates have already put out?

I'm trying to see the good in open source software, but I keep getting convinced that it is generally bad for the economy and will kill drive to develop.

Hey!
I just finished up working on a PC for a friend that came OEM with Win. XP. I installed Mint XFCE onto it because it was the only thing I knew that worked with small amounts of system memory (500 mgbs of DDR fucking 400) and actually really enjoyed my time working with the OS, even though I have absolutely no past experience with Linux, so I was wondering:
1) What other Distros should I try (I am normalfag going to classes for networking, don't do a lot of programming.)
2) What does Linux offer that other Operating Systems don't (and how to utilize it.)
3) Any tips for how to get started if I decide to install Linux, other than wing it and hope I don't break shit.
Thanks!

I always read that linux is a better OS to program in (say compared to windows). Can someone explain to me why that is?

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how do I fix this?

xfce and xfwm

>>56591936
>will kill drive to develop.
Most of the maintainers and devs work for free, and yet here we are.

>>56591950
1. The babby ones: Ubuntu MATE, Xubuntu, Lubuntu.

2. Free, open source software. A more customizable computing experience.

3. There are a lot of tutorials on how to install. Linux is not some evil, esoteric thing. Just keep clicking 'next'.

>>56591990
It's the same in a lot of ways except you have gcc, and with many distributions you can have multiple versions of a desktop environment or some library installed at the same time.

>>56591996
What needs to be fixed?

>>56592006
specifically those two tray icons

the theme has a black taskbar but they refuse to accept that

>>56591936
>it is generally bad for the economy
You must be American.

>>56592019
Well, we do have the most powerful economy the world has ever seen, so there's that.

>>56592039
Sure you do son, sure you do.

>>56592006
gcc is a compiler, right? what are the advantages of using a gcc vs using a compiler included in an IDE? Also, is it impossible to have multiple libraries installed at the same time on a windows computer?

>>56592039
Have to keep those wars going don't we

>>56592066
You mean that wars that keep theocratic Muslim dictators from inflicting havoc on the sane parts of the world? Yeah.

>>56592085
Yeah bud, I'm sure that's true
#delusion

>>56592095
>hashtag on 4chan
Lad...

Hiya friends,

KDM today hangs on boot for my F24 install with nvidia binary. This is after weeks of the desktop slowly breaking down into a lag with xorg maxxing out a core during actions like alt+tab and mousing over the tray. Considering F22 KDE was also a nightmare which would throw me to login randomly, I'm thinking of giving up on KDE. If the problem is actually with KDE, I'm guessing that the coder base has been substantially replaced since the good old days of KDE 3.5.

Is there a rundown for standout desktops that are not GNOME and are not forks of old codebases?

>>56592142

The XFCE default menu has an icon of a mouse. Not sure what other requirements you have.

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>>56592052
Where is the LARGEST MONETARY system housed?
NYSE
What is your currency based against
USD
>>56592066
See what is happening with euro cucks?
We pulled back out Global Military Support, and look what is happening,. You cucks dont have the systems in place to handle these things

>>56588518
query 2 can be solved with a google search

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>>56591936

>>56591996
>this
You might want to expand on what "this" is

>>56592385
icons refusing to be transparent on a black taskbar

>>56591936
I like the concept of open source. But the reality is, it does not work in the free market. The ones that make money from it, offer commercial level support, or features hidden behind a paywall, or forks, or are paid to work on the project, which then get sucked in to larger companies.

>>56585128
Mozilla

Turbo Help required here:

My audio keeps cutting off, and it appears that headphones is the culprit. I tried muting it but it keep switching back and forth.

Looked up in forums, stack exchange, edited the alsa configs, nothing. Its just this one tiny issue that bothers the hell out of me.

>>56593355
We cannot read your mind. What exactly happened, what did you do, what logs, etc

From what you said, just dont use the headphones, because that is the problem

>>56586474
sudo !!

What distro do you guys recommend to an ARM device like the Raspberry Pi?

>>56593847
raspbian for a raspberry pi
if it's not actually a raspberry pi, ask again.

>>56593863
It's a Raspberry Pi 3.

>>56593871
arch arm pi

I recently got a used chomebook, and Acer CB3-531, with the plan to install a Linux distribution on it. Google searches told me that Arch is generally the lightest possible OS I could install, but then I hear that Arch is constantly a headache because it is so unpolished and barebones. The next interesting choices I read were Lubuntu, which was supposed to be more polished, then one called GalliumOS which is supposedly custom made for the hardware found on many chromebooks.

what are your thoughts?

>>56593918
Install gentoo

Best cd ripper that produces good .log files?

Hello! I tried switching to linux (mint, ubuntu, debian) couple of times but I gave up every time because of the audio issues I would get while watching youtube videos for example - sound would always be out of sync (delayed couple of seconds) to video.
Someone here told me it could be because of my hardware setup (still using ati4850). Could it really be because of amd drivers? Are new amd cards and drivers more linux friendly?
Thanks!

Best WM for a complete beginner shithead who tried using i3 and couldn't figure out how to do anything?

>>56593995
https://github.com/joelametta/whipper

Just run EAC in a VM

>>56595681
>Best WM for a complete beginner shithead who tried using i3 and couldn't figure out how to do anything?
dwm but this time read the manual. It's short enough.

>>56595529
Current amd cards work well on foss drivers but you could also use a low setting in mpv and watch your videos in a easy to decode format by default. Depending on which you want mpv threads and we can help you directly.
You can use the firefox plugin "open with" to add mpv to the right click menu.

>>56591936
>I'm trying to see the good in open source software, but I keep getting convinced that it is generally bad for the economy and will kill drive to develop.
It's a dumb meme and just a leftover from 60s hippy bullshit.

Le open sauce xd is resulting in a race to the bottom. Stallshit has actually acknowledged this (he believes developers in the First World are "paid too much") but he doesn't care.

>boot openSUSE liveCD
>no drivers for laptop wifi
>boot xubuntu liveCD
>no drivers for laptop wifi
>boot any linux liveCD
>no drivers for laptop wifi
and this is when i killed myself.

>>56595736
This really is a friendly thread! Thanks, I'll try this!

Daily reminder to not respond to trolls

>>56595766
what laptop

>>56595800
probook 430 g1

>>56595804
post lspci

>>56592085
>You mean that wars that keep theocratic Muslim dictators from inflicting havoc on the sane parts of the world? Yeah.
lol

>>56584571
>firendly
>civil
>picture of a Linux pissing on windows logo

no thanks

>>56597082
This is the Linux thread.
When we talk about linux, we should be courteous and friendly.
We do not extend that comfort to winfags

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>>56597082
>he mad

Does Linux have a decent video editor?

>>56597496
Blender.

>>56597496
openshot
cinerra-v

Hello linux friends, what is a good os for getting used to Linux that isn't Ubuntu? I hear good thing gs about mint and Debian but I really wanted to ask you guys first because I trust you.

>>56597553
Depends what you are looking for.

Do you want something really easy to jump into?

Or would you like a little more challenge to begin learning?

How tech-savvy are you?

>>56597553
>I hear good thing gs about mint
don't.

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Anyone using LXDE? What icon theme are you using? I tried most well known icon themes but they don't have all the icons for the lxde panel so the volume, battery and wi-fi icons look out of place.

>>56597666
try tango or faenza

>>56597553
>>56597647
Well you mentioned Debian so try Bunsenlabs.

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>>56597666
I'm on the default fedora theme, which seems to be identical to mist.

Been using fluxbox for a decade.
Looking for something new, not tiling, preferably not a *box derivitive

How to avoid fucking up the nvidia driver install on Elementary ?

Last time I tried it was stuck on a black screen from boot.

>>56597553
OpenSUSE, it got YAST which is a gui control panel much like the one that exist in Windows.

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>>56597553
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56597817
LWM

>>56597845
Can confirm. Every time I change an option in windows control panel it spends a few minutes applying the configuration.

>>56597890
thank dr stalman

How do i transfer files from Debian linux to my android device ?

>>56598084
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+transfer+from+debian+to+android

Use Google before you ask here.

https://github.com/linuxmint/mintsystem/blob/master/usr/bin/rtfm

>>56598107
>google
enjoy your botnet

>>56598084
Airdroid.

>Use Google before you ask here.
so basically /thread?

>>56598124
Yeah, we carry tracking devices around, purchase things with cards that have our names and address and bank on them, but heaven forbid that I google how to transfer files between devices. You're a moron.

>>56598107
This is a friendly thread. If you already searched it, you could aswell just post a link instead of being a faggot.

>>56598160
Whatever helps you sleep at night, cuck.

>>56598161
Friendly != spoonfeed
Every link on the first page of that search is a tutorial for how to do what he wants. Having him look for it on his own first will help him more in the long run.

>>56598160
Use a dumbphone and pay cash like an intelligent human being.

>>56598160
>we
no, sheeple like you

I want to change the colour of a part of my bash prompt but I'm not sure how.

export PS1="\[\033[38;5;6m\][\[\033[38;5;118m\]\[\033[38;5;154m\]\[\033[0m\]\[\033[38;5;118m\]\[\033[38;5;244m\]\[\033[1m\]\[\033[30;2;21m\]$USER@$HOSTNAME\[\033[0m\]\[\033[38;5;118m\] \w\[\033[38;5;6m\]]\[\033[38;5;118m\]\[\033[0m\]\[\033[38;5;10m\]\[\033[0m\]\[\e[33m\]\`parse_git_branch\`\[\e[m\] "

The user@hostname is dark and I want to change it to something lighter.

>>56598197
>"I'm going to inconvenience myself so da gubmint duznt know what toilet paper i buy this makes me intelligent"
Kill yourself.

>>56598207
>Le SHEEPLE XD
Go find an AMD vs NVIDIA thread to circlejerk in, you child.

>>56598160
There are many services that respect your privacy and have better results such as searx.

>>56598225
Terminal Emulator?

>>56598232
>convenience is more important than privacy
Brainwashed victim, lol.

>>56598254
Konsole

>>56598264
I use terminator myself but I assume it's the same process:

https://abdussamad.com/archives/503-Changing-Konsole-colors-in-KDE.html

>>56598294
I don't want to change the konsole colours, I want to change the colour set in the PS1.

>>56598306
Idk,

I guess dig in for some ArchWiki.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash/Prompt_customization

>>56598336
Great, thanks for the help.

What's so great about void linux? It looks like it was made because gentoo was too mainstream.

>>56598490
it's just arch without systemd

>>56598490
>What's so great about void linux?
it isn't

>>56598533
Actually not. Void is written from scratch with superior package manager, less bloat and more freedom.

>>56598533
>>56598566
t. tech illiterate

>>56590713
is there any page where i can find a guide to install and configure all of them to work together? pls anon

>>56598533
no
void is not simple like arch

>>56598124
Are you a gold account user? How do you post on /g/ and avoid Google?

>>56598234
>searx
>literally every link then what you are looking for.
>google
>google same entry verbatim
>results on top 3

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>>56598232

>>56598586
There are various links in op that will solve your issue

>>56598197
Your phone provider still tracks you with a dumbphone.

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Are there *any* modern distros out there that get basic things like touchpad support right?

I just want to customize acceleration, speed and scroll speed without having to fuck around with synclient, startup scripts, the ever-changing X11 configuration system, the ever-changing X11 input system or the ever-changing Gnome bullshit. Is that so fucking much to ask of an operating system in 2016? Even OS X has semi-decent touchpad support.

I'm trying to set up a computer for a kid and only have, like, today to do it. Is there any distro out there that has a graphical desktop, does the basics right and isn't Arch?

>>56598645
>desolder gps
>desolder E911
You were saying?
Triangulated radio signal isnt an exact spot, and is easier to move zones then a 5m gps location

>>56598570
>>56598587
>>56598584
stupid hipsters getting mad over your mexican arch ripoff? have you actually used void? the package manager is exactly like pacman, just has a different name. it just uses runit instead of systemdick, so you have to do more work. the website says it's not based on any distro, but that's complete bullshit.

>>56598677
>but that's complete bullshit
t. random anonymous troll posting on 4kids

>>56597583
I can handle a bit of a challenge but I'm in school so I would rather something that I can easy into, but still use if that makes sense.

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>>56598232
it's sad, isn't it?

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>>56598677
lewl

>>56598669
Is desoldering that difficult? Can you do the same with a smartphone?

>>56598774
>difficult
Not at all
>smartphone
Any phone can do this

>>56598757
>Le dumphone == Le freedumbz! XD XD
So, doing anything where you're not completely anonymous isn't freedom. Like, going on the internet and stuff. Holy shit you're retarded

>>56598794
Cool, I'll look more into this. Thanks.

>>56598808
If you cannot be 100% free, you are 0% free.

NEW THREAD
>>56598822
>>56598822
>>56598822
NEW THREAD

>>56598197
Yeah, totally believable except this site has Android circlejerk threads 24/7.

>>56598827
Thanks for the platitude, friend.

>>56598830
fuck off troll

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>try to install ubuntu on old PC to fuck around with
>use rufus and format as FAT32
>doesn't recognize it
>try FAT
>doesn't recognize it
>try unetbootin
>doesn't recognize it
>google solution
>it's a common problem with this motherboard (GA-P35-DS3L)
fuck it i give up

->
-> >>56598958
->

>mint has stupid updates, crashes sometimes
>ubuntu mate is bad and slow
>debian jessie too much barebones
>ubuntu - unity lol

please recommend me a distro for my x220 that just works (all fn shortcuts and so on)

>>56598978
So you've basically used 4 different Ubuntus and you're going to get people recommending you more Ubuntus now.

>>56598978
debian sid

mint is utter trash, ubuntu botnet

>>56584571
Helo anon, is there a GNU/Linux program that show all my local videos with a nice cover that I can comfy choose and pick what to watch?

>>56599075
kodi

>>56597737
Me too but i was looking for something more modern. :/

>>56599153
Everything looks kinda zoomed in but thanks m8

>>56599211
You need to adjust it for your monitor

is arch stable enoough? and do the fn keys work?

>>56599429
I only can zoom out 20% which fucks up the top bar and background..

>>56599429
Can you set it to window mode somewhere?