Holy war

>>56428828
this makes as much sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hYbWs2dPg

>>56428828
what about us sysadmins

>>56428864
we're gonna be replaced by "the cloud"

>>56428864
can be done already
>>56428828
programmer just converts language to computer language
'software developer' can mean much more

Kek,

Between outsourcing and automation so many of you nerds are fucked.

That's why you get jobs that require you to interact with humans.

>>56428926
Normafags out

>>56428864
its happening right now, bit companies cut their spending on sysadmins while increase spending on """cloud""" several times

>>56428828
What's the difference?

>>56428864
>>56428883
>>56428890
>>56429021
>My dream of becoming a Linux system administrator and playing with Linux for a living might never come true
I hate jews so goddamn much, they need to be gassed.

>>56429388
I just kind of fell in to it after school. Studied PoliSci and Economics and ended up with a windows desktop internship that i then got moved into windows sysadmin stuff. your dream can still come true

>>56428828
I'm a home stager with an interest in technology, my boss gives me overtime pay whenever he needs me to "consult" him regarding IT stuff. I'll never be replaced by a machine. Feels good man.

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>>56428953
>>>/r9k/

>>56428926
>implying there are service economy jobs worth a shit

lel enjoy being a social worker taking care of nig outreach for 50k annually after insane inflation

the only people who will actually make decent money are the tech nerds who do things computers can't do, and maintain those systems

service economy retards not maintaining the system for the jews are going to be poverty level

>>56429795
>>>/Facebook/

>>56428864
cisadmins are scum.

>>56428864
cloud or poo'd

>>56428883
>tfw sysadmin at a managed services company

I am the cloud.

>>56429979
*tips fedora*

>>56428828
I'm an automation engineer

>>56428883
Who will manage the cloud?

>>56430621

The cloud will manage the cloud.

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>>56430621

>>56430687
Indians are a shitty workforce, most companies are outsourcing operations to eastern EU instead.

Source: I'm the one taking your jobs.

>>56430719
They are not mostly outsourcing to eastern Europe, what the hell are you talking about?

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>>56430687

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>>56428828
>software developers applications

Web development is the future.

>>56429021

The cloud is made of computers that also require sysadmins dumbass. You didn't think it was a literal cloud did you?

>>56431540
Why the fuck else would they call it "the cloud"? Get an education dude

>>56428864
merged into "devops"

>>56428828
>Software Developers Applications

What did he mean by this, /g/?

>software developers applications

>>56430621
Skynet

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>>56428828
>Software Developers Applications

>>56429126
One is diversity. The entire image is a metaphor for affirmative action.

>>56428850
>Jinesh Parekh
t. Microsoft developer

>>56428828
The person calculating the chances of being automated is already automated by the looks of it.

>>56431540
>You didn't think it was a literal cloud did you?
Imagine: Swarms of floating, networked devices, spanning the globe.

do you think they'll ever automate pornography

>>56430719
Nobody is giving jobs to gypsies.
You can quietely go back to steal copper

Computer programming can't be automated, program synthesis is undecidable.

>>56435902
We can only hope, anon.

>he thinks programming and system admin work is gonna be automated within 50 years

Nah. People that say this have never worked at a real company.

>>56428828
>tfw EE

>>56428828

Ive never understood how this would work.

Given a design, the automation would have to receive very specific orders on what should happen if various UIs face different events.

These orders would have to come from a designer with some amount of tech knowledge or one with in depth knowledge of the automator.

At the end of all this isn't the designer.....programming. Only they'd be using the automation? And what if 400 designers want to work concurrently on the automation?

Who is going to manage all this? You'd need a larger team of engineers than you started out with.

>>56428828
>What is halting problem?

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>>56430116
>t.

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Should I be worrying?

>>56428864
Dont listen to them, you simply administrate virtual systens through the cloud.

>>56430032
This, feels good man

>mech eng.
>1.1%
Now I know this is bullshit. Most mech engs. Are just glorified drafters and calculators with only a small subset actually doing difficult designing.

>telemarketers
>99% chance of being replaced
>Implying robodialing will be effective
Maybe if they get extremely robust AI that can actually pitch a sale properly.

>>56436786
Thank god those pictures are blurred, my boss could've gotten offended

>>56436916
EE is an umbrella studypath. ASIC design will be automated no doubt, embedded systems development maybe, but I don't think control engineering will and there's a bunch of stuff that won't either. It really depends on what your specialty is.

>>56438406
Not my OC

>>56438192
vermin is not allowed on /g/

>>56438734
>this triggered
Kys

>>56428828
So here's how it works /g/, computer programming becomes so high level, that essentially you're not writing code anymore. Oh you get a weird bug? Rearrange blocks until you don't get it anymore. Humans are good for figuring stuff like that out and figuring out what humans want.

It's sort of a shitty future, but it's where we're headed.

How about code artisans? Those can't be automated!

tomate

>>56439362

That's pretty much what GeneXus already does tbfam h.

>>56436786
*you're

>>56431540
The point of the cloud is to first outsource it to competent sysadminsin the us. The next step is to have a bunch of cheap wageslave indians do the shit remotely.

>>56435902
Heh 2D > 3D.

>>56430719
It does take some time to find competent shitskins but there are a lot of them after all there are literally a billion of them.

>>56429388
We're looking for a competent sysadmin at work right now, since our senior guy left.
Our stack is mixed with Red Hat and Windows Server, so if you are competent with both we'll hire you immediately.

>>56439590
>>>56430719
>It does take some time to find competent shitskins but there are a lot of them after all there are literally a billion of them.
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>>56439563
Fucking g cancer

>>56428926
Jobs that require interaction with humans will be replaced first

>>56438148
Reliability is more important than innovation.

>>56439614
Do you want me to share my dragon dildo with you?

>>56439590

Nice racism, shitlord.

>>56439619
In that case why not purchase a machine/computer that's very reliable instead of blowing your cash on hiring MEs that are prone to mistakes?

>>56439684
newfag gtfo

>>56428864
As long as printers exist sysadmins will be needed.

>>56428828
>2016
>not chasing buzz words
>not a SECURITY FOR CLOUD AND DEVOPS MANAGER
>2016, not asking Chad the pussy slayer MBA for money to "SECURE THE CLOUD"
>not using the money to hire a team of indians to blame when you do get hacked
>not selling it as a brilliant strategy of "outsourcing risk"

>>56439563
>>56439580
>>56439590
>>56439619
>>56439641
>>56439775

when are you going back to r/eddit?

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>>56439881
I love you too.

>Medical doctor
>0% chance of being automated

Feels good man

>>56429814
inflation at 2.5% a year. In 60 years, our expenditures will be in the millions but have exactly the same amount of value as today.

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>>56440022
thats what you think greedy fuck

>>56440022

Your automation is already underway actually.

http://www.mskcc.org/about/innovative-collaborations/watson-oncology

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>>56440085
Why so mad?

We all make our choices

>>56440022
>0% chance
I would think someone studying to be a doctor wasn't a complete fucking dumbass. Good riddance your industry will be leading the path towards automation - after all, we don't want to suffer any more unnecessary deaths due to human negligence. :)

>>56440152

Nice meme, but no.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/robot-surgeon-successfully-sews-pig-intestine/

How does knowing that you'll be done not too long after literal cashiers make you feel?

>>56440152
doctors and surgeons will be replaces. people will be on a comfy conveyor belt, scanned, blood tested, administered any medication necessary and a super efficent robot will preform any surgery.

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>>56440236
A-at least I won't be the first to go?

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>>56440022
http://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/robotics/medical-robots/autonomous-robot-surgeon-bests-human-surgeons-in-world-first

If we get robots capable of doing household chores, we will likely have robots capable of doing surgery soon after that. The problem of manipulating flexible objects such as towels and clothes is not too different from the problem of surgery.

>>56440431
To be fair, even if the actual cutting and sewing will be done by robots, they still need instructions given to them. I don't see doctors going away any time soon - with robotic surgery, telepresence and other technological aids there won't be need for as many of them, but some will almost certainly be needed.

>>56440632
Just have pajeet do it. Don't they shit out doctors from that country too?

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>>56440632
>what is machine learning?

>>56440675
Something that won't be replacing doctors completely for a long time unless it gets a LOT better.

>>56440632
>>To be fair, even if the actual cutting and sewing will be done by robots, they still need instructions given to them.
We have a precedent for this, Lasik. What essentially happens is that there are very few doctor positions, with those elite few 'performing' a majority of the operations. You can still get a job, but are less likely to get one.

Another way to look at it is that robots doing janitorial work are sort of useless if they require detailed instructions.

>>56428828
wtf how can the exact same thing have two different percentages OP

>>56441188
it's low level vs. high level work.

>>56441188
nice triple doubles

>>56441188
I'm OP and post that in hope to understand the differences between those two things. But I didn't get it.

>>56430621
the water cycle

>>56441205
Or so would "application software developers code artisan fizzbuzzers" like you to believe.

>>56441286
There's none, it's totally made up.

>>56429734
>needs me to "consult" him
Do you suck his dick or something?

>>56428850
POO IN LOO
faggot

>>56428828
>woman
0% chance

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>>56428828

>>56440745
>What is AlphaGo

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>>56428828
I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.

>>56442301
>what is VR

programming seems like a shit job, I might switch out to being a sysadmin soon

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>>56436213
>tfw there wasn't even a job there to begin with

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>>56428828

>tfw your job will never be automated

How can other occupations even compete?

>>56428828
>Computer Programmers being automated
That's won't happen even if people want it to. Making a computer understand exactly what you want it to do, and how, is inherently ridiculously complex, especially if you need anything to be efficient (i.e. solve problems in a reasonable amount of time). That is the stupidest fucking website.