/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>56418051
Jesus I didn't realise how awful and overdone that text looks.

Topre Realforce owner here


Everything else is a gimmick and a meme

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>>56418076
k. What weight?

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>>56418076
>Topre
D E P R E C A T E D

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-ornata-chroma

>>56418076
no.

>>56418182
That bump looks fucking nasty.

>>56418168

Variable? I dont know, havent used a desktop pc at home in two years, its in a plastic bag somewhere.

>>56418194

This

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>>56418194
>>56418260
it looks nasty because it says razer, got it

>>56418270
>rubber dome but with a tactile leaf and a sharp tooth on the slider
Tell me that won't feel like sticking your dick in a box of nails.

>>56418182
They're joking.

Surely they're joking.

They have to be taking the piss.

They are definitely joking.

how much ibm model m 1391406 is worth?

>>56418182
If anything, they're deprecating BTC's dome-with-sliders, not Topre. Except the BTC keyboards are $5, not $100.

>>56418076
What about the HHKB?

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>>56418182

>with the soft tactile click of a mechanical keyboard
>literally a membrane keyboard
>the clicking comes from a small piece of metal coil that otherwise does NOTHING as you can see on the schematic
>they think people choose mechs just because they want clicky noises meme
>underage or manchild gamers will still buy this and slobber all over how WOW ITS CLICKY CLICKITY

so I caved in and bought a CS storm quickfire tkls,

I personally love it and especially the physical difference it feels compared to razer's tournament stealth "browns"

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>Mula: 100-150

>Country: Straya

>Switch type:
Cherry: brown, blue
(mostly want something quiet & tactile)
I 'm also interested in topper keys (never tried them)

>Layout : Both ANSI and ISO are good

>Form factor: 60% and TKL

>Backlight: Not preferred

>Previous/current keyboards:
Blackwidow Ultimate (Blues) - Wan't the same feel but slightly quieter

Anyone with feedback about Cherry MX Silent switches?

>>56419496
v60 mini with quiet matias alps clones

NKEY-K5 RGB
Where can I get a legit buy link on this one?

>>56421090
why would you want that specific keyboard I don't know, but here you are https://world.taobao.com/item/528704043320.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.ibSZvs#detail

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>>56421090
>kailh

not even once, goy

>>56421137
Because I have a fetish on those lights. Does it ship to EU and can I pay by paypal/skrill?

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>>56421151
150 bucks + shipping for a kailh board. You're insane and besides that isn't the only keyboard in the world to have RGB lighting.

But if you are adamant they do not except paypal they use their own Chinese version. I have bought stuff from there before and if you don't know hoe to use google translate you might make a mistake. I was nervous my first time but nothing wrong happened

>Budget
no budget, i can drop a few grand if needed
>Location (continent at least)
europe
>Preferred switch type
never owned a mechanical keyboard before so i wouldn't know - i'll mostly use it for typing(no games)
>Layout
doesn't matter
>Form factor
i want one without a numpad
>Backlight
no i'm not a fucking child
>Previous/current keyboards
apple :^)

i basically need the most expensive keyboard that i can assemble or purchase online, and it needs to not look like shit

please link some expensive keycaps also

needing this because the girl i'm trying to date and soon marry is "big" on mechanical keyboards so a good first impression is needed

>>56421193
Yeah I just started getting to know the page more and it seems a little complicated.
Maybe you have any other suggestions on same type keyboards that are same/better quality?

>>56421202
Well if you don't mind spending a grand then go for the IBM model M industrial SSK. That's pretty much the Rolls Royce of keyboards.

>>56421233
i don't want a retro looking keyboard, being mistaked for an autist would ruin it all

>Budget: 70$

>Location: Europe (central)

>Swith type: Cherry MX Brown (any cheap variant)

>Layout: US

>Form factor: TKL, 87 key, 80%

>Backlight: White

>My first mechanical keyboard

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>>56421257
Well do you want supper rare keyboards that sell for $1000+ or do you want niche and special snowflake looking keyboard

>>56421219
well if you get a ducky shine 5 the quality increases by 10 folds and it costs the same price

The sound of any and all Cherry MX keys being released makes me gag

>>56421314
Thanks

>>56421300
niche and special looking that's also really expensive

>>56421326
If you go for that mechanicalkeyboards.com is an official Ducky partner so they have more options then amazon

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>>56421338
how about a RS68

>>56421378
where can i buy this exact keyboard
THIS is what im looking for

>>56421394
Its only on Taoboa https://world.taobao.com/item/525245142547.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.NXklF7#detail, but some people on geekhack, deskthority, and reddit have some, so maybe they will part ways with theirs

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>>56421257
>willing to drop a few grand on a keyboard
>being mistaked for an autist would ruin it all

Pick one.

Honestly, the most you're ever gonna pay for a quality board is 400-500 for a korean custom(gonskeyboardworks comes to mind there). Even if you're building your own you'll find it insanely hard to pay more than that if you're not a tacky 15 y/o.

If you acutally want to spend a few grand head over to datamancer and take a look at their 'beautiful' custom keyboards.
>pick related

>>56421444
how hard would it be to find one fast? im willing to pay a grand or whatever the price for it is as long as its not missing keys or whatever

also what switches would it have? id need to know

>>56421505
How long until she comes over?

>>56421505
who knows, its not that hard to buy things from taobao, compared to finding someone online who wants to get rid of those

If you get a barebones kit you can use whatever switches you want, the ones on taobao are gaterons

In case anyone in the UK is interested in a (German) Model M this is a new listing.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112121409493

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I just commited to $139.99 on this bad boy, did I do good?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/minivan-keyboard

>>56421472
that's the ugliest keyboard ive ever seen

from the thumbnail i legitimately thought it was from a gore thread where someone took off the keycaps and you saw a decade of hair and food filth

>>56421505
If you are willing to pay a grand this GB is still taking orders
http://duck0113.tistory.com/134

>>56421586
sorry but 300+ people aren't going to commit or buy this keyboard in 16 hours. So unless you want it you gotta pay the extra 10 bucks

>>56421586
looks awful for 30 dollars less you could buy a functioning 60% keyboard

>hesitating between a Corsair Strafe RGB Cherry MX silent and a Logitech G910 Orion Spark as my first gaming keyboard
You can make fun of me.

>>56421589
>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112121409493
It's quite disturbing, isn't it? The fact that they're trying to sell this for 1.6k is the most hilarious thing about it though. The descriptions also read like the ones they always have in art exhibitions. Sort of adds a notion of self parody into the mix.

>>56421633
Don't buy a gaming keyboard.

Buy something you won't be ashamed of using in a few years.

Starter boards are a meme.

>>56421351
Where do you get this from?

>>56421627
I'm guessing that if you're buying a 40% board that you want a 40% board and not a 60%. Weird huh?

>>56421660
The thing is that I could use a few macro/profile keys instead of having a shitty 10 bucks keyboard.

>>56421678
modelfkeyboards.com

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>>56421633
corsair has LED issues and the G910 will severely limit your choice in keycaps so you can't get stuff like pic related

>>56421688
Then get a ducky one its got over 200 macros to fit your autism

>>56421693
1075$ lmao... i better buy an original from ebay

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1976 key caps when?

Do you take your keyboard to work?

http://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/early-birdlow-serial-number-f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver-single-digit/

This is actually pretty nice and not too unreasonable for a model m hhkb

>>56421693
>>56421771

>>56421756
some

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>>56421741
probably sometime mid to late next year if ever

>>56421771
I have an f77 on order. You have to wait ages though.

>>56421699

The new Corsair versions don't have LED problems, so long as they're the RGB. It is the older single color ones that had issues.

Also, look at the new Corsair RGB "Lux". They now have a nicer font, better backlighting, and a USB passthrough. So a decent keyboard overall for those who like the design, CherryMX RGB in Blue, Red, Or Brown switches.

The only downside is, unless Lux have changed something you need to ensure you get the right bottom row spacing for custom keycaps on the Corsair. However, that usually isn't much of an issue.

Oh, some notable neat keyboards....

Input.Club K-Type - The successor to the "White Fox", in RGB. Open source software, hardware. Compact. https://input.club/

Keyboardio Model 01 - Holy shit, an ergonomic (multiple position, split, tented etc..) mechanical, RGB, open source (powered by an arduino) keyboard, with a frame made out of wood. Looks pretty unique... https://shop.keyboard.io/

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>>56421859
>you need to ensure you get the right bottom row spacing for custom keycaps on the Corsair

The problem is most keycaps don't support corsairs weird layout

>>56421921

Yeah, that's annoying. I know there are a handful of those that offer a custom bottom row, but yeah not all of them.

I wonder though... has anyone checked out the new RGB "Lux" editions to see if the spacing is the same on the bottom row?

We should go to Corsair and ask them to change that shit around. They've been somewhat responsive to enthusiast criticism in the past from what I've seen, such as the inclusion ofheadphone/USB is now added to Lux. Maybe they've never been asked by custom keyset aficionados?

>>56421969
the problem is that corsair is a mainstream brand and most people don't care about aftermarket custom keycaps. All what they want is to plug a mouse/ headset into their keyboard without having to get a 6 foot long usb cable to their PC

>>56422109

True, but Corsair is somewhat of an enthusiast company at its core. Selling expensive PC peripherals is a niche in and of itself. Maybe they'll be receptive? Only a relative few will buy AX grade power supplies, Dominator or Vengeance LED RAM, liquid cooling etc...

Can't hurt to ask. I'll see if I can PM a rep on one of the hardware forums, but if something like Geekhack or whatnot can make an official request maybe they'd be receptive? Hell, even if they got a lot of emails asking for the feature that might help. If not, we're no worse off than we are now.

As an aside... anyone know if Roccat uses a standard layout on their US version? They seem to be pretty open to customization (ie their Nyth mouse has 3d printed custom buttons, they give away the specs etc.. .and they seem to offer open source and/or Linux friendly stuff too). Maybe their Rylos MK FX is a worthwhile competitor for a "gaming" mechanical for those who want one.

>>56422367
PC assembling enthusiasts are a far cry from keyboard enthusiasts.

>>56421756
I have a dedicated work board.

>>56422367
you know how much corsair spends on marketing sure there keyboards are a tad pricey, but they market them as enthusiast products put a metal plate at the front despite everything else being made of cheap plastics then throw in a couple of RGB LEDS and people thing they spent their money getting a premium product, who can then go online and brag about their enthusiast set up

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Wha!

Royal Navy key caps are being delayed till October. The wait continues.

>Cooler Master switch tester on Massdrop

Neato

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>>56421812
Pretty cute.

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These threads are so boring now. Just the same self-loathing tripfags and their awful sets, HHKB buyers still in denial of a worthless keyboard. All boring. I hope the mods ban these threads just like desktop threads.

>>56422740
Fuckers. I'm away from 1st Oct, so I'll have to have them forwarded -_-

It's also pretty bad that they haven't told those who bought spare kits rather than through the initial GB...

Realforce RGB?

>>56424092
Theres always noobs who benefit from the OP pastebin info,l

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>>56424092
okay then I'll post something new if you won't contribute

>>56424092
they seem dead in the morning they get most of their activity in the night

budget : $400
loc : USA
switch : topre
layout : ansi
size : 60% or 65-75%
backlight : not needed, but fine if its there
current : type heaven

currently looking at leopold fc660c but since its so pricey id like to at least go through some other similar options

>>56424410
why not go for a HHKB and get PBT caps for it with that budget

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>>56424429
>why not go for a HHKB and get PBT caps for it

anon do you know what you're saying

>>56424505
>anon do you know what you're saying
no anon, what do you mean?

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>>56424629
The HHKB already comes with PBT caps.

Unless you want to gut a novatouch for the stems, there's no PBT caps available that would fit the HHKB that are of any higher quality than the stock ones (1mm).

>>56421269
yeah, good luck with that.

might as well get a cooler master masterkeys lite or something

>>56424673
Oh I've never used HHKB doesn't fit my tastes.

>>56424429
yes, i've certainly been looking at it

the different layout kind of worries me, but of course there seem to be quite a few different options with the dip switch settings to get it close to my liking

tough decisions honestly

What's up with all the fags asking for a tkl keyboard

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Just finally finished this right now.

Bored of my Rapid-I with browns

How usable are 60% keyboards?

>>56424829
very

>>56424841
Any issues remembering macros and stuff? How much am I going to miss the arrow keys? Reason I went for this instead of something like a Pok3r was the arrow keys.

>>56424868
if you want arrow keys the get 65% keyboard

>>56424819
Clean, but it looks like your ribbon is too long.

>>56424923
Eh, I'll just use vim navigation everywhere

>>56424868
No issues remembering macros, but I don't use blank keycaps.

>>56424926
Not so long as to prevent it from working I hope...
I just did that so that if I mount it in a case, I can easily separate them.
It's really only a couple inches longer than going to the teensy directly would be.

>>56418182
It's a fucking rubber membrane

>>56425158
Actually its now a memebrane keyboard.
Much better then a rubberdome keyboard with a tactile leaf. Just memebrane keyboard

>>56418182
>People will pay $100 for btc dome sliders that click

Razer have geniuses in their marketing department.

>>56425158
It's a dome with slider

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>>56418051
Anyone have the typewriter keycaps for the Magic Force 68? If you did, is there a way to buy them seperate?

>>56425487
there are some on aliexpress but they are $700

>>56425078
Depends on how much room you have in your case, I guess.

What is the point of a mechanical keyboard? I have a logitech g15, I like it. Does a MK make a difference? Or is it anothger thinkpad meme?

>>56425825
The switches are mechanical. That's the point. Some people prefer the feel.

Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless
O-Ring modded
Master race

>>56425825
Mechanical keyboards are much more durable then rubberdomes. Even cheap $35 mechanical keyboards will last longer and remain more consistent then a high quality rubberdome. Plus the tactile feedback lets you type faster, though it differs from person to person

>>56425846
>>56425979
So paying hundreds for a feel? so it's a meme like the thinkpad. Fucking kek

>>56426165
>paying hundreds
its clear your just trolling since you can get 30 dollar mechanical keyboards as I said

>>56425825
Much crispier key feeling and mid-travel actuation.

>>56425979
But that's pretty much a meme.
If anything, cheap mechanical would last shorter : the actuation mechanism is more complex and prone to failure and "key chatter", it's also far more sensitive to dust and spilled drinks.

>>56426190
True, but skimming throught the thread I've seen people saying 140 or even a thosand. I've tried a mechanical keyboard, now that I think about it. Yeah it felt smoother pressing down on the keys, but doesnt warrant those prices, but to each their own. Thanks for answering the question btw.

>>56426226
Well if you want stuff like metal construction, layers and macros, or thicker plastics those are all gonna cost extra. Heck my mechanical keyboard weighs almost 5 pounds because of the steel back plate, though I only paid 75 bucks for it

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Anyone else order a chinkboard from chinkshit.xyz?

>AULA F2012
>$35

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>>56418182
>http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-ornata-chroma
Why would anyone buy this? You could buy a fully mechanical keyboard for less, and this is even stupid in the fucking razer lineup, when the Blackwidow is just $10 extra.

If some bratty 12 y/o is begging his mom for a Razer™keyboard, she is either not going to buy him the $50 membrane deathstalker essential because she thinks that all keyboards are the same, or she is going to cave in and buy him whatever the "top of the line" blackwidow is.

>>56421472
Some old Korean boards (Duck, KMAC) you’d be hard pressed to get for under 600‐700

If you want to do your own switches and caps you can easily put a grand into a Cherry MX board

>>56418182
Why would you want this?

Should I buy this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322250714405?

>>56426395
for this price you could get an old alps board on ebay that's way higher quality

>>56426840
Why do you want it?

In my opinion you shouldn't get it, the asking price is way too high for an alps keyboard with nothing special

>>56426888
Because it has complicated blue alps switches. I usually find them for like $100 dollars more for a broken board.

>>56426413
Literally membrane with a clicking device not even tactile.

>>56426905
If you truly want it get it

>>56424410
if you cant use hhkb just buy an f660c
because theres about no other options for a 60% topre

What is the best sounding and feeling switch out there?

I really like the sound of this, but don't know how it feels like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_WwYJSFwo

>>56427536
>What is the best sounding and feeling switch out there?
Complicated blue alps, though the one you posted takes a close second

>>56427536
there's so many out there, it's hard to give a definitive answer that works for everyone. some of my favorites

beamspring
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1WvOIiPQobc

blue alps
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1T86RsKdQaS

alps plate spring
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1KWo25D8Z0o

kishsaver buckling spring
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1VM6zwLKxXr

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Man I just want a modern model F layout that doesn't cost 500 dollars

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The fuck is going out with my corsair K65?

I was cleaning it and took all of the keycaps and clean them too

I haven't turn it on in a day and just today it start glitching out.

Corsair CUE doesn't even detected it either and when unplug and plug it back in its goes into this weird slow rainbow wave and goes white for a sec and goes back into slow rainbow wave.

Help?

>>56428931
Man that is one ugly looking logo.
My best guess is that you didn't dry the caps properly and some water got into your keyboard shorting it out

>>56429028
Then none of the leds shouldn't turn on if it was a shortout

>>56429028
And like I said it goes into a slow rainbow effect so it maybe some glitch

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Just wanted to check back in, even though I know nobody remembers or cares.

I posted a little while back that I was interested in getting a quickfire rapid with green switches. It was easily one of the best purchases I have made in recent times.

The keyboard, while only tkl, has a nice sturdy weight and heft to it. The green switches are a blessing after coming from browns. I am a heavy typist and would accidentally press adjacent keys on the browns all the time.

I've tried out my friend's mech with blues but they were always a bit too loud for me. The click on the greens is lower pitched and slightly more subdued, really nice.

Only downside I can see are the mediocre keycaps with their edgey gamer font. Thankfully, I just have to wait until my miami keys come in. Thanks again /mkg/.

>>56429090
then try updating the firmware.
Honestly I would have taken the keyboard apart and checked to see if its a hardware problem or a software glitch

>>56429113
But how can I update the firmware if it's done with corsair cue and cue not detecting the keyboard

>>56428931
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-Logo-Sticker/282090995924

Wait until the seller puts up another listing. It is of utmost priority.

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>>56429172
Okay lets take it a step back. Is it being detected by windows?

>>56429258
No, I don't see anything when I plug in my old dell keyboard it detects it but when I plug in my corsair keyboard it doesn't detect it

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>>56421586
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/minivan-keyboard
this looks terrible

>>56411285


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTkvr_EC2LA

>>56429442
Do you have a screwdriver?

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what's the cheapest mechanical keyboard i could get gaise?

>>56429748
For what?

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>>56421586
I'm scared
Do I do it?

>>56429849
No it looks ugly as fuck

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>>56418051
Really want a 60% keyboard but can't find any below $100. Is it just cheaper to buy the parts and build my own

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>>56429748
probably this one

>>56429867
you really aren't looking hard enough. After 20 seconds I already found 5 different keyboards from 60 bucks to 99 dollars

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>>56429875
>blue

>>56418051
No numpad. Why do you people do this. It's an abomination.

>>56429916
this

>>56429867
bluetooth and has gateron switches

http://www.banggood.com/APP-Control-Anne-PRO-Blue-Red-Switch-RGB-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1064055.html

>>56426907
>not even tactile
?

>>56429911
they use outemu switches and come in reds, browns, and blues. Backlit ones cost $10 extra

I want a portable mechanical(60%, would go smaller if still functional). They're very difficult to find. I need advice on ones that are actually in stock and attainable.

>Budget
~200
>Location (continent at least)
southern united states
>Preferred switch type
I've only ever used blues - probably too loud. May need help here. If I'm used to typing with blues, how is the transition to browns?
>Layout
qwerty
>Form factor
60% OR LESS
>Backlight
don't care, if backlight I want it to be possible to turn off so I don't look like more of a nerd than I have to in public.
>Previous/current keyboards
Das keyboard 4 at home

Filco Majestouch-2 at the office

Retired:
Razer Black Widow Ultimate(back when they used cherry blues & it was a fine keyboard excluding the shitty logos)

>>56429968
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=&size=60%25&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off&show_acc=on

Have fun picking one, personally matias switches are enjoyable to type on

>>56429980
>>56429968
Forgot to mention they are located in Tennessee so shipping shouldn't be an issue. Also they have a 30 day refund policy if you don't like it send it back and get another

>>56429968
Browns are bad don't do it man.

I think these are pretty good https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1773

Here's a sound test for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_WwYJSFwo

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>>56429916
>No numpad
okay then how about this. Its got a numpad and compact as well

>>56430035
looks extremely gay and clunky

>>56430035
>that thing
>compact

So I need a new keyboard with a decent chunk of macro keys
I was thinking k95 but anyone else have any other suggestions?

>>56430025
>Browns are bad don't do it man.
What do you recommend then? I want a mech I can use for writing in public. I'm really tired of writing 10 pages a day on laptop keyboards and dingy university basement $5 dell keyboards.

>>56429980
Looking. Thanks a ton.

>>56429867
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1427

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1482

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=895

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1289

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1773

these models come in all sorts of colors, caps, and switches, so look around for your favorite one

>>56430055
but its got a numpad anon which you love oh so much

>>56429968
Get a Leopold FC660C. PBT keycaps and 45g Topres.

>>56430077
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1772

Get this. It has a built in dampener and makes basically no click noise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VORGnHc0-PM

>>56430101
I don't like the numpad I just think tkl is retarded

>>56430124
>I don't like the numpad
>I just think tkl is retarded

so you like 60% keyboards?

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>>56430124

>>56430149
ye

>>56430289
No.

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>>56430289
get her this

>>56430289
https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce/dp/B01ABUJ0FY/

>$40 prime shipping
>clicky blue keys to remind her of the good ol' typewriter days
>has all the necessities for general typing and nothing more

>>56430289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ALPS-Low-Profile-Keyboard-Model-KFRF-1-6-pin-PS-2-Connector-/191949025122?hash=item2cb10daf62:g:LLwAAOSwTZ1XlPC2

Get her this


Do you have pics of your secretary grandma?

>>56430289
>>56430344
I second this. Show us a nice picture of your secretary grandmother.

I'm sure she's lovely.

>>56430344
>>56430332
>>56430329
Thanks guys these all look great. I'll weight them over with her.

>>56430390
No

>>56430396
I'm not going to jerk off to your grandma I just want to see how she looks like. I'm sure she's a sweet little lady

>>56430396
>>56430429
yeah man

we did the heavy lifting already and gave you decent suggestions. The least you can do is show us your nice little old granny.

Anyone know why cherry switches are so gay?

Mechanical keyboards are a meme, membrane keyboards are all you'll ever need

>>56432426
Namefaggots are a meme.

>>56432432
Your mom is a meme

>>56432441
you aren't funny and no one likes you

>Budget
~$100
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
I want to go with blues.
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
%100
>Backlight
If possible. I would like it to have adjustable brightness though.
>Previous/current keyboards
Broke my V80 (Brown Switches). Before that, I only had cheap rubber dome keyboards.
How are blues anyway?

>>56432684
iMac

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>>56424124
Nickelodeon!

>>56432684
blues are the only okay-ish cherry switches
most keyboards are blue and 100% so you don't really need help. Just pick one in your range that you think looks okay

>>56432684
Ducky One. Get PBT keycaps, though that would mean no backlight.

>>56421685
I'm also guessing that you're retarded for buying less than half the product at twice the price. But hey, it'll get you /g/ cred.

>>56432802
>>56432728
I appreciate your help, but I forgot one detail:
It must support PS/2.

>>56433046
get an old alps keyboard then they will be much better quality anyway

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>>56418051
Well i got a keycool 84, now what the fuck do i do with my life?

>>56433046
PS/2 is a gimmick.

>>56433086
your life was a gimmick

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>>56424124

>>56429916
Because some people don't need a numpad in their day-to-day usage.

>>56424124
Thanks, Doc!

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>>56430081
would recommend the royal kludge one especially in pinku

>>56433613
Thank god you have a trip so I can filter you.

>>56433636
rude

>>56430025
I love my browns for typing.

>>56430081
You should be fine with browns unless you are ham-fisted

>>56433874
disregard this anons opinion

>>56433874
He has a budget of $200. Might as well go full Topre at that point.

Aren't topres technically mechanical feeling switches?

>>56433933
What's a mechanical feeling switch

>>56433933
technically they're rubber domes with a gimmick.

>>56433939
Keyboards that feel mechanical but technically aren't.

>>56433942
So...yes?

>>56433954
What do you mean feel mechanical there is no mechanical feel all switches are different.

>>56433954
Mechanical means that there's parts that move.

>>56433959
"Mechanical feel" is a marketing term invented by the Chinese to trick unassuming buyers into thinking they bought a mechanical keyboard since that just saw "mechanical" and the low price and decided to click "buy".

>>56433975
I just watched a video it's literally just a dome with slider keyboard

>>56433995
Doesn't stop it from being pure marketing.

>>56434009
Yeah. Razer is doing the same thing
>>56418182

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>>56418051
>>56418168
>>56421351
>>56421378
>>56421699
>>56421741
>>56421812
>>56421921
>>56429849
>>56433613
>special snowflake colors
>LEDs

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>>56434064
I watch anime too.

>>56421859
I just bought the k65 rgb lux like a good goy. Waiting to pick it up in the morning. First keyboard since Logitech g15

Who here puts a towel under their keyboard?

>>56433933
Topre essentially uses rubber domes made out of high-quality rubber and with custom shaping to provide the feel, so I would argue they're not "mechanical feeling" per se. Rather, they just feel good.

The reason people refer to Topre as "mechanical" is mostly in regards to their comparable quality and durability, provided by replacing a membrane design with a capacitive design - which can, in theory, last more than even mechanical switches. Generally, it's because far too many people assume anything with rubber in it is a horrible $5 membrane keyboard.

>>56434478
I put a blanket under mine

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Anything that should stop me from getting a memespeed ck104 and grab a set of gaterons for a tinkering pasttime? Around 30€ for a set of 108 switches.

>>56418051
Do O-rings do anything on blue switches?

Where can I shop for coloured keycaps in Europe?

>>56434799

Like all switches, dampen the key's bottoming out.
Don't expect it to muffle the clicking mechanism, it won't.

>>56434836
Thank you.

>>56434478
>>56434562
why? o-rings make more sense if you want to reduce noise

>>56434517
>high-quality rubber
>custom shaping
and razer's mecha-membrane doesn't have this? rofl

Don't buy steelseries keyboard, I have a 6gv2 which started double, triple registering keys after a couple of month. The shop changed it for a brand new 6gv2 and the keyboard started doing the same after a month.

I bought a mechanical keyboard because I expected it to be reliable, and I just threw $90 down the drainer. I'll have it refunded of course, but beware.

>>56435255
it might be that you're misusing it somehow like bottoming out too much, there are some people like you who get this issue 2-3 times in a row in a short period of time and then there are people who never have this problem

I bought this KB 6251 with original clicky ALPS white for 25$. How did I do?

Also how do Cherry Blue feel compared to ALPS white?

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>>56435311
Forgot pic

>>56435275

Then again he bought a steelseries, so he only has himself to blame.

>>56435275
There are lots of people saying the same in amazon review or forums. I just didn't make my research properly and bought what I believe was a good deal.

Seiden.tech:
What's a mechanical keyboard?

Topre uses rubber domes, model Ms use membranes, Model Fs work with capacitance (like Topre). MX and ALPS style keyboards use discrete switches.

All of these except for Topre, which is a point of debate but widely accepted in the keyboard community, are considered "mechanical" keyboards.

So, what does "mechanical" mean in this context?

>>56435143
O-rings don't do shit for desk noise.

>>56435275
All switches are made to be bottomed out on.

I've gone down the rabbit hole. Ordered new keycaps for my Leopold FC750R. White blanks for letters, light grey with dark grey legends (double-shot or whatever it's called).

>>56435440
what kind of shoddy ass desk do you have for it to be making any significant amount of noise

>>56435465
Sounds good. White and grey is always an awesome combo.

>>56435496
Go put a towel under your keyboard and tell me it doesn't make a difference.

>>56435405
they have mechanical moving parts except for topre, a flexing rubber dome can hardly hardly be considered to be mechanical by most defintions, but the term 'mechanical' when it comes to keyboards often just means a more high quality or more expensive 'premium' keyboard

>>56429916
If I ever wanted a numpad, it wouldn't be on the right side of the keyboard anyway.

>>56435536
ok fine it reduces noise

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>>56435529
this vibe, but the whites are blanks

>>56435551
this

is there anywhere to buy stand alone numpads that are a retard amount of dollars?

>>56435496
It's not the desk that is making the noise, it's noise from the keys travelling through the desk. A towel prevents that.

Lift your keyboard from your desk, press some keys and compare the noise to when it's on your desk.

>>56435586
buy a topre numpad

>>56435576
also if you're trading stocks or something you don't need text input at the same time so using a layer is fine but for non-casual use you could get a standalone numpad, having a numpad permanently attached to the right side of the keyboard where the mouse is supposed to be is disgusting imo

>>56435606
>$125.50

>>56435623
I thought you wanted something expensive

>>56435629
oh sorry, I meant isn't a retard amount

>>56435543
>they have mechanical moving parts except for topre
Any keyboard that isn't a touchscreen has moving parts. What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

>mechanical by most defintions
You may want to look up the definition of "mechanical" while you're at it.

>>56435640
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mechanical-Numeric-Keypad-Jelly-Comb-USB-Braid-Cable-Numpad-22-key-Number-Pad-/182268794448?hash=item2a70111650:g:tKEAAOSw9IpXzTkh

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>>56435647
a piece of fabric isn't mechanical

a piece of rubber isn't mechanical

when using the word 'mechanical' it's usually referring to a mechanism with separate moving parts

>>56435698
so that would make topre mechanical

>>56435698
There's a slider, there's a rubber dome and there's a spring. That's three moving parts right there.

>>56435720
autism

>>56435727
You're the one who thinks mechanical keyboard means high quality keyboard

>>56435671
oh cool. thanks mang. mx keycap compatible?

>>56435752
they're mx blues

>>56435726
>The switch's dome does provide most of its resistance and all of its tactile feel
and there is disagreement for a reason, the world isn't black and white you massive autist

>>56435741
KILL YOURSELF it's not even me who thinks it i'm just saying how people use the term and that's why you get this confusion

>>56435795
Are you sure that you aren't replying to the wrong person? When did I even say that?

>>56435811
But topre is still mechanical

>>56435826
go see a doctor

>>56435833
THERE IS DISAGREEMENT ABOUT IT

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE

YOU ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE

>>56435841
but topre is a mechanical switch and so are all dome with sliders

What's the best Mechanical Keyboard for office use with numpad?

>>56435850
ok so >>56418182 is mechanical too then

>>56435860
yeah but it's still retarded

>>56435857
a quiet one

>>56435860
Given the definition of the term "mechanical", yes.

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OH LOOK EVERYONE IT HAS MOVING PARTS SO IT'S MECHANICAL

>>56435885
that's only a moving part

>>56435875
and that would be?

>>56435901
and topre is infinitely different because it has a spring underneath the rubber?

>>56435928
Yes and the plunger it feels comfy

>>56435857
You'd probably want something quiet to not annoy your coworkers, so clicky switches like buckling spring, cherry mx blue or alps white arent a good choice.

That leaves you with linear vs tactile and it pretty much boils down to personal preference. If you want to feel a step when key is pressed, then you want quiet tactile, like mx clear. If you dont care about it then linear switches also feel good, like mx red or black.

>>56435940
but razer mecha membrane doesn't feel comfy because it's MUH GAYMEN GOOD GOY HUEHUEHUE

>>56435955
no because razer mecha membranes don't plunge, or have a spring. The slider is directlyon top of the dome

>>56435928
The rubber is higher quality and the thing s a whole is made out of quality materials.

>>56435950
Thanks, i think clear would be best for me because i use brown at home and i like it and it's also tactile.

>>56435971
yeah it's higher quality than every other rubber dome keyboard ever made [citation needed]

>>56435981
>ultra-solid case
>made in a first-world country
>PBT keycaps
>actually mounted on a metal plate
>high quality rubber (you seem to have trouble with this fact, that there is indeed durable, high quality rubber)
>capacitive sensing that will undoubtedly outlast physical contact sensing
If your job was to make Razerfags look retarded then congratulations.

>>56436052
lol ok i'm not even a razerfag just calling out your extreme bias, and you act like high quality rubber is diffibult to obtain and that plate-mounted switches are any special

>>56435150
Durability and reliable keypress registration. A membrane is much less reliable and you have to hammer on it like a maniac to register a press.

>>56435928
Not necessarily in feel, but in durability and reliability? Absolutely. The spring doesn't contribute a lot to it, most of Topre's secret feel sauce is, from what I know (I hope to buy a keyboard but I can't decide between the ergo-Realforce, the 45g Realforce and the HHKB, so I've been doing a lot of research) the "cup rubber" and the fact capacitive designs are actually expensive to make - compare the prices and availability of the capacitive Model F vs the buckling spring Model M.

>>56436089
Honestly, if you only care about the feel - I heard the BTC dome-with-slider has a good chunk of the Topre feel at 1/20th the cost used. Razer is using a similar design for their "mecha-membrane", except they added a click for some reason or other.

Topre's price is not in the rubber domes. It's in the capacitive mechanism, the high-quality materials and not being produced in China.

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How is it even possible that nobody sells touchtyping keysets?

>>56436130
Blanks are very popular.

>>56436130
you know the layout by muscle memory, the keycap colors should just be for easy visual recognition and/or aesthetics

>>56435780
cheers

>>56435857
reds and learning not to be aggressive on them

>>56436130
http://shop.hooleon.com/products/keyboards-typing-blank-keys-color-coded-black

>>56436190
So I should buy the keyboard, scrap the keycaps and put it in my board?

They don't say which switches it is compatible with, but it looks like buckling, not MX.

Buying single gets quite expensive for the full board.

>>56436289
just go to keybr.com and have at it stop making excuses for putting off learning touch typing

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i've had at most a total of 6 hours of practice on this website, started from scratch with not knowing proper touch typing

>>56436329
I also want style.

I found this tho, looks good.
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/104-key-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

>>56436365
>WASD keycaps

>>56436520
Is there something wrong with it?

The page lets you configure the colour of each individual key and switch between text stiles, including blank. It looks nice to me, besides I just want the letter keys and not a full keyset.

>>56436587
The keycaps are shit thin ABS, their only merit is the level of customization offered, given the quality and material choice, they are beyond overpriced.

So what do you faggots make of optical switches?

>>56436365
The quality is super shit and plastic is thin as fuck.

Just get something like this

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-gradient-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

>>56436729
seem interesting, now let's wait for them to actually hit the market.

>>56436729
shitty meme

>>56435311

cherry blues feel like little bitch switches compared to white alps. No joke, lol.

>>56436767
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bloody-b640

NEW THREAD:
>>56436899
>>56436899
>>56436899

>>56424124

DANKE DOKTOR