Are 144hz monitors a meme?

>is (x meme) a meme of a meme's meme?

>>56377755
>is (x meme) a nigger of a meme's nigger?

>>56377777
Yes.
Also nice digits
Also:
>inb4 >>>/b/

No, they're not. They make more of difference than a higher resolution.

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>>56377777
Quints

No they're glorious. Fuck off poorfags.

>>56377813
>I hate colors

BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
-A-15 warthog

>>56377755
>>56377777
>>56377792
>>56377794
>>56377800
>>56377813
>>56377820
ok well thanks for assuring me bros

i actually ordered one a couple days ago, coming in the mail just now.

can't wait to finally play overwatch in 144fps with my ow friends. also i hope i can run doom at that fps.

this is what i bought

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TUK9D9K/ref=twister_B01KHBS0JE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

i know it's benq but i'm too poor to afford better.

Its only worth it if you get a G-sync monitor.

I had a choice between 1080p 144hz and 1440p 60hz with a gtx 1070.

Went with the 144hz and even general use is so satisfying compared to my old laptop which had a 60hz refresh rate.

Just moving the mouse around feels comfy as he'll, and that is the least of the improvements.

Wish I had a monitor to compare it to, t b h

>>56377952
that's nice. the one i'm getting today is 1440p 144hz with 1ms refresh rate, also a 1070. i just hope it runs everything well, if i can't get 144fps consistently i might just get another gpu to pair it with.

>>56377946
is gsync really as good as people say it is? I don't think i could afford one anyways but can it hit like 200fps+? i don't even think your eyes can see that high but it'd still be cool.

>>56377995
Seen plenty of people here claiming that gsync is a meme and not really worth wasting money on.

Just saying, I have no opinion about it

144hz is a meme until you try to go back to 60hz

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>>56377777
Consider those babies checked

144Hz is a meme pushed by GPU companies to sell high end GPUs. People eat it up.

>>56377675
they're nice if you have both a strobing backlight AND source material with a matching framerate.

Otherwise they're just a moderate improvement over 60 Hz.

>>56378023
>>56377995
Gsync is just expensive freesync right?

>>56377794
This x100.

I just got my 144hz 27'' monitors today.

JESUS CHRIST.

Everything is so fucking silky smooth. It's like moving through fucking butter. Watching porn is even more amazing. It's like it's actually in my fucking face.

Fuck any dumbass saying it's a meme.

>>56378273
ye

i'd rather have 1440p than 144hz

>>56378333
then you're stupid.

>>56377675
They are glorious in arena shooters.

>>56378243
You are retarded. The games you need 144hz for are not even GPU intensive to run at over 144 fps.

>>56378409
>thinking they're only good for gaymen

Nope.
Even moving around the OS feels good.

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IPS is more important than refresh rate. No matter the refresh rate, colours will still be shit, blacks washed out. But a good IPS panel will fix that.

I have an Asus VG248QE and it was a total gamechanger for me. I can't go back to 60Hz.

>stoopid americans dont know 'bout muh bayesed/glorious overclockable 60-120Hz Korean 1440p IPS panels for about 200 bukks.
wew lad

>>56378462
>I can't go back to 60Hz.
Me either. 60hz is choppy as hell when you experience 144hz™

>>56377675
It's a great monitor. It feels smooth. I could live with a 60hrz for sure, but the 144 is a noticeable improvement and syncs up well with movies so I don't get stuttering.

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Is this the best 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor?

>>56378333
Why not both?

>>56377675
I heard that 60hz on a 144hz screen looks worse than 60hz on a 60hz screen, is that true?

Is that where Free/G-Sync comes in?

>>56378913
I can't back it up with facts, but when my dual-link DVI cable died and I had to use a single-link until I got a replacement, and thus 60Hz, it certainly looked like utter trash. I don't know if it was because I was used to 144Hz, or if it actually looked worse.

>>56378913
>I heard that 60hz on a 144hz screen looks worse than 60hz on a 60hz screen

Sounds like placebo bullshit. Once you switch to 144hz, 60hz does start to look a bit choppier than before because the jump from 60 to 144 is such a substantial difference, but if you compared 60hz on 144hz next to 60hz on 60hz, I'm pretty sure there would be no difference.

>>56378309
please link some of this mythical 120hz porn

>>56379124
I second this. Even 60 fps porn is way harder ti find than it should be.

>>56378265
This. I have this monitor >>56378462 and forcing it into strobing mode/3d mode/light boost really removes just about all motion blur. Scrolling web pages look beautiful now. The only minus is the subpar contrast.

Until 16:10 G and/or adaptive sync monitors exist, they're ALL shit

>>56379220
You mean, 3:2, right?

>>56378444
>blacks washed out. But a good IPS panel will fix that.
Expect that subpar black levels are the single biggest problem of IPS panels you retard

>>56379335
Are you retarded? LCDs have poor blacks in general, but IPS > TN panel.

144 Hz user here. Just for an experiment I've switched to 60 Hz for a minute and nearly puked just from moving the cursor and dragging a window across the screen.

144Hz is only a meme if you can't actually play at 144 FPS.

>>56378309
That's not how it works

>>56379614
he's actually just masturbating to the cursor on his screen, not the 30fps porn he's watching

Are there any 144hz 10bit monitors that aren't 4K?

What happened with 75hz monitors?

>>56378444
>muh IPS

color autists are as bad as audiophiles
you don't need IPS for gayming

is 27" too big?

>>56379187
Not him but lookup SVP

>>56379935
its nice to have. once you go ips its hard to go back to white dicks

>>56380179
i switch between 2k ips and 1080p tn several times a day

it's not a big deal
but i'll never go back to 60hz for fast games

>>56379438
He's saying the games that benefit the most from 144Hz do not need a high-end graphics card. Are you trying to contradict that with Quake Live?

>>56377675
Just as much as you are.

That BenQ looks good. Same price as my Asus MG279Q. I couldn't decide on one so I just closed my eyes and picked one lol. Working good so far but only sometimes in 144Hz I get a vertical tear in the middle of the screen. Changing the refresh rate clears it and I go on about my business.

It's my first build and I've learned one thing, you never know WHAT you're gonna get in that box!

>>56377777
I have witnessed you.

>>56379783
>75hz

lol

>>56377853
A-10 you fucking wumpus

your eyes can only see 24hz anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

Even 96 Hz is gorgeous.
>tfw OS feels amazing
>tfw playing DOOM 1440p maxed out at close to that

>>56377675
The difference between 60Hz and 144Hz is a lot more noticeable than the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS.

>>56380980
what the hell are you using that's 96hz?

1440p 144hz is very nice but 90hz is very nice for an 'overclock'

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>>56380992
>84 is a larger number than 30
You don't say?

>>56380999
Overclocked gook monitor. I can push it to 110 but 96 is a nicer multiple.

144hz is probably the second best 'upgrade' you can do for your build.

Once frame rate is above 110ish I stop being able to tell a difference. 120 and 144 looks the same to me

>>56381007
I got a Crossover that I run at 110, I paid 170 for it, IPS, 1440p and 110 refresh. Kinda wish it was displayport and not DVI but whatever

I've got a gtx 1070 which should I go for 144hz 1080p or 1440p 60hz?

60Hz is a meme
almost every current monitor can 75-90 Hz easy but it's limited to 60

>>56377884
>bros
>overwatch
>friends

I changed my mind. Return the monitor that you bought and take the return money to buy thick nylon rope and a ceiling hook to hang yourself.

>>56377675
Yes. Weve had 120 hz tvs for over a decade now. Trying to do a +24 hz and say its hot shit is retarded.

>>56377884
I ordered two of these bad boys(except it only costed $300 each because it didn't have free sync(useless, I have 1070) plus they were refurbished.

It's damn great.

After upgrading to 144hz, I realized just how shitty I was experiencing things using 60hz. everything feels 'real'

I spent 10 minutes just moving my cursor around in awe.

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Guys, if i get a 144hz monitor and turn v-sync off, will it look choppy as 60 hz without vsync?

>>56377884
coincidentally i just got that exact monitor today, it's great so far. i'm using an nvidia card so i can't use freesync but the 1440p and 144hz is worth it.

>>56377675
I think yes, because even when 4K144 is technically possible I doubt there is a graphics solution that would fill it.

Depends if you can see more than 60fps, some people can't even see past 30fps, people are slowing getting this fact and dealing with it.

>>56383581
no?
why would you disable vsync anyway. if your gpu can't handle a game with vsync on then you should stick to 1080p 60hz monitors or something.

>>56378309
>watching 30hz porn on a 144hz screen is better than watching it on a 30hz screen

Am i dreaming?

>>56379124
>>56379614
>>56383640
Dumbasses, I'm talking about 3D rendered porn playing at 144FPS.(in-game)

Not fucking videos.

>>56383593
who said anything about 4k

>>56383581
Screen tearing is a lot tougher to notice at higher framerates.

>>56377884
hope you have an AMD card so you can use freesync, otherwise you should have gotten a gsync monitor.

Frame syncing is the best shit since sliced bread, and having a monitor with both frame syncing and 144hz is the way it's meant to be played.

>>56385527
i have the same monitor and i have an nvidia card.
the cheapest 1440p 144hz gsync monitor was over $330 more. i'm happy with just using 1440p 144hz and not freesync for that price difference

>>56377794
Resolution is the most important aspect of any display. Higher resolutions produce a sharper and clearer, therefore superior, image. 30hz 4k UHD > 144hz 1440p

>>56385539
gsync modules add $200, so $300 extra is a bit of a rip.

Regardless, frame syncing is the fucking tits. I'd get 60hz with frame syncing over 144hz without it.

Is 27" too small for a 4K screen? I have saved enough for a 1440p with high refresh rate, but my friend has a Dell P2715Q and the image is kinda way more beautiful than any desktop monitor I've seen before.

>>56385580
that's canadian prices, however. my 1440p 144hz freesync monitor was $579 canadian, and the cheapest 1440p 144hz gsync monitor i could find was $900

>>56377675
if they were a meme then you wouldnt have literally every csgo pro using one and saying how 60hz is unusable after

>>56385640
>implying Le gun skin smoke tree erryday shooter fanboy advice is anything to go by

>>56380039

Imo it's ideal, I bought a 32" 4k and it felt too big. Went back to 27" 1440p and gave it to my friend as a gift.

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This is an 18+ board

>>56377675
High refresh rate improves the quality of the image MUCH better than high resolution does. High resolution is a meme, everything beyond 1920x1080 is pure snob snakeoil and lacks support for 80% of media put there. A 1920x1080 144 Hz TN panel looks better than a 4K (even the name makes me laugh) 60 Hz IPS panel.

>>56385845
While i love high refresh rates I can't agree with high resolution being snakeoil even 1440 looks significantly better then 1080. I have no interest in 4k until they start releasing monitors that can do 4k with 100+Hz, I think 1440p 144Hz is perfect though.

>>56385823
Autistic Linux neckbeard detected

>>56385948
>everything beyond 1920x1080 is pure snob snakeoil
I was with you until that sentence, you dumb ass motherfucker.

Try switching back to 1080p once you've had a 1440p monitor and you'll know how stupid you are

>>56385972
meant to respond to
>>56385845

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>>56385579

>>56383676
3D rendered porn. Kill your self.

>>56377675

I don't know honestly. A lot of people swear by them. Personally when I tested one I saw no difference from 60hz.

Oh well, it's your money I guess.

Get Freesync monitor

>>56377675

Nope. But freesync/gsync are.

>>56386267
lol no

>>56377777
>77777
Nice dubs bro

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>Ηigher Resolution than 1080p
>60Hz vs 144Hz
>TN vs IPS

what the fuck do I do?Monitors are way too fucking expensive man.Should I get a 144Hz TN or wait until I get more money for an IPS one?

>>56377995
If you get a constant 144hz use ULMB instead, as tearing is hardly noticeable at that point. If your framerate dips a lot though, g-sync is nice.

>>56383581
freesync

>>56383676
End yourself my man

>>56377777
nice singles

Rank the following:

IPS, 4K, 1440p, IPS, 144Hz, Response time

Been looking to buy a new monitor and can't decide what's important.

>>56387168
Just get a 1440p 144Hz IPS

>>56387009
You watch a lot of movies/tv/chinesecartoons?

get an ips, if you game only get a tn.

>>56387227
I actually do both,but right now I'm trying to find a monitor to replace my old shitty VGA one.I'm also buying a graphics card,so I'm trying to save as much money as possible.

>>56387168
i have a 1440p 144hz TN and used to have 1440p IPS and there's not a big difference in quality. the only thing i've noticed is the viewing angles, which aren't too bad.

>>56385948
>>56385972
>>56385984
My father has been running an electronical appliances business for years and I've worked with him quite a lot, then I perfectly know what a 2k or even a 4K screen looks like. When I said that everything above 1920x1080 is snakeoil, I was obviously referring to monitors, since OP's topic is exactly this one. 2K looks amazing on 40"+ TVs, I can't deny it, and 4K looks amazing on 55"+ TVs, but honestly I think that those sizes are simply overkill for monitor/desktop use. The ideal size for a monitor would be around 24"/27" and 1920x1080 is already a very good res for that. It should also be considered that basically any media content is recorded in Full HD nowadays, whereas 2K's content is still limited and 4K has almost none.

>>56387238

rx 480+tn freesync = Cheapest option that do the work

gtx 1060 + ips gsync = Rich motherfucker.

The problem is how much you are a colorfag. Or if you value more no tearing/stuttering/ vsync in you life.

I can see a lot of tearing without vsync and can't stand vsync due to input lag. That's why i got a fury for 340€ and a 280€ tn freesync monitor.

>>56387261
yeah I'm trying to decide between the RX 480 or the GTX 1060 but I'm probably going to buy the 4GB 480.As for screen tearing I actually don't really care for it that much.Is the difference between IPS and TN that huge?Some people say that TN is complete garbage while others say that you barely see the difference.

>>56385579
No point in having bigger resolutions if everything moves choppy. Yes, 60hz is choppy as hell compared to 144hz.

My eyes are already used to looking at 144hz so it feels 'normal' now, but when I switch to 60hz, everything feels awful.

>>56387303
it's personal.
Like you like redheads or blondes?

You can only go to someone with IPS and TN to see the difference irl.

i just bought a 65 inch tv that does 1080p@120 hz

monitorcucks BTFO

>>56387438

enjoy 2 minutes input lag

with most games being frame locked at 120fps or even 60fps tops why bother getting a 144hz monitor when you can get a 120hz one.

>>56387466

game with physics locked to fps are shit. No exceptions.

>>56387466
144 Hz monitors can be adjusted to different refresh rates though. At least my Asus VG248QE can.

>>56387460

it is 20 ms input lag literally not a noticeable difference from gaming monitors

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>>56377777

>>56387479
Can't you put a frame cap on games anyway?

>itt: people falling for marketing tricks

I usually cap the frames to around 200 or 160 fps depending on the games in order to not experience stutters.

>>56387573
Why not cap it at the refresh rate of your monitor?

>>56387589
Because the games I play are badly optimized for new systems, then if I set the cap at the refresh rate of my monitor fps are usually lower than what they should be.

>>56387609
That's not how it works.
But don't mind me, enjoy your placebo. It's not like making your hardware work harder than it needs to shortens its lifespan or anything.

>>56380943
Yeah, I have an old 5:4 LCD monitor that gives 75fps at max. Sadly it doesn't power up anymore

A 1440p 144hz IPS monitor is $800. That's the real meme right there

>>56387662
I bought one, IPS too.
If you don't mind me I'll be enjoying my expensive meme.

>>56387682
You should enjoy it if you can afford it. I'm just going to wait until they drop enough to not be more expensive than my CPU + GPU combined

>>56377675
no, because memes are generally funny. And 144hz monitors aren't particularly funny.

>>56387711
Yeah definitely, I would not recommend it to anyone that would have to sacrifice other aspects to get it. It's really nice, but it's a luxury. If you have to pick between getting a better CPU/GPU/SSD, and getting a 144Hz/1440p, go for the CPU/GPU/SSD.

>>56387744
Memes are funny? huh, TIL.

>>56377884
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSync#List_of_FreeSync_monitors

Benq XL2730Z 27" 2560x1440 (QHD) 8 16:9 (minimum)40 Hz (maximum)144 Hz TN $599

>40Hz minimum freesync range
im so sorry.
once you go below 40Hz (40fps) youll get flickering on your display

>>56387807
yep. have a look
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/popular

>>56387807
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/musically-oblivious-8th-grader

>>56387822
I clicked the first one and it was scary, not funny.
You lied to me, I'm going to block you.

>>56387807
Sup red.dit

>>56387841
everything you say is straight outta redddit. Starting with 'TIL'

>>56387852
huh, this isn't reddit? TIL.

>>56387662
you can get them for 400 on sale now, they're definitely coming down in price

>>56387009
either get 4k 60Hz or 1080p 144Hz, 1440p doesn't make any sense at 144Hz as video cards can barely run past 60Hz anyway

>>56377794
Debatable. I have a 1440p korean monitor, it's overclockable but even if it wasn't, I'd rather have 1440p@75Hz than 1080p@144Hz. Once you get used to arranging your desktop for 1440p you're never coming back. Ever. It's addicting as fuck.

>>56387890
Refresh rate is the same way for me.
I can't go back to anything less than either 1440p or 144Hz (Well, I'm lying here, I could probably go to 120Hz and be okay, but you get my point)

>>56387884
What about 1440p/60hz?

>>56388026
Go for gook 1440p monitors. IPS-like, overclockable and cheap.

>>56387819

>going below 40fps, ever.

are you a console player?

>>56388026
I don't see the point to getting that when you can get a 4k monitor which is a better technology

>>56378983
It's because you're operating your monitor outside it's native settings. I use a TV that's native 1080 120hz, or 2160 30hz, anything else looks like a blurry shit stain until you start tweaking your resolution timings. You still won't ever get it perfect, but it will be a hell of a lot better. The blurring isn't that noticeable when viewing media or playing games, but reading is out of the question.

>>56381004
I hope you're trolling you stupid shit

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>>56388742
>2.4 is a larger number than 2
You don't say?

>>56382625
If you can afford it a g-sync 144hz 1440p

>>56389024
I got a 1440p 144Hz G-sync IPS monitor.
It is absolutely majestic.

>>56387819
how the fuck do you go below 40fps

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Reminder that 144Hz monitors default to 60Hz until you manually change the refresh rate.

I honestly think that there are ridiculous diminishing returns from 120 to 144 which makes 144Hz hardly ever worth it.

>>56389533
Wow, such retards. Shouldn't have expected anything less from reddit, I guess.

>>56378913
No, actually 60 fps would look smoother on a 144hz monitor than on a 60hz if vsync is turned off. You get less tearing and ghosting.

>>56387819
>>40Hz minimum freesync range
>im so sorry.
>once you go below 40Hz (40fps) youll get flickering on your display

AMD added GPU-side automatic frame doubling last year for any monitor with a frequency range of >= 2.5:1.

Gameplay will still look like garbage at 30 fps or whatever anyway, but there won't be flicker.

Finally, the amount of judder from 30-40 fps content on a 120/144 Hz should be negligible anyway.
Variable sync is primarily a tool to get 40-60 fps to feel closer to locked 60 fps on a 60 Hz display or 80-120 fps closer to locked 120 fps on a 120 Hz display, etc.

>>56377675
just ordered one since my AOC finally died on me

Am I gonna need a certain cable for 144hz or will any DVI/display port/HDMI do?

>>56383676
Patrician taste my dude
I'll buy a 144HZ monitor as soon as AA3 drops

Any decent IPS 144HZ monitors?

>>56390169
Just the display port I'm pretty sure.

>>56390169
Display port 1.3? and possibly dual link DVI

>>56390169
Displayport, the shorter the cable the less quality it needs to be.
There's only one kind of displayport cable, all the 1.1, 1.2 is bullshit. What matters is if it's properly shielded.

Also pin 20 must NOT have a live wire, that's out of spec and risks damaging your gpu/pc/monitor. Pin 20 is only for powering on external devices specifically designed for it.

>>56387890
>Once you get used to arranging your desktop for 1440p
Can you please post a screenshot for us Anon?

No, they are not a meme. It really is worth it. Also, don't run it at 144, run it at 120 but strobed using strobelight (just Google it). Even better than 144.

>>56391498
1.1 1.2 1.3 is not bullshit. 1.3 can carry 120hz 4k, 1.2 can only carry 60hz 4k. Don't be an idiot.

>>56383348
>Not having friends to relax and play games with

>>56392040
>Despite what you may read, there is no such thing as a DisplayPort 1.1 cable and DisplayPort 1.2 cable.
http://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/

I don't know about 1.3, but if they haven't changed the port itself then the cable will be the same.
As I said, to ensure the cable works at high bandwidths it must be properly shielded, but it doesn't matter much if you're gonna get a short cheaper one. It will perform the same.

>>56392369
Hmm I was wrong on 1.1 and 1.2 but there is definitely a difference between 1.3 and 1.2, check out Wikipedia they have the specs. Looking forward to 1.3 GPUs for 120 4k

>>56383621
>why would you disable vsync anyway
Input lag, and don't debate me, vsync will cause input lag by definition. Doesn't matter if you don't notice it.

Where the fuck is my 24" 1080p *IPS* Freesync 30-144Hz monitor!

They are not a meme. The best way to play games with a competitive mindset is with a 144hz TN panel.

However, I don't consider these "gaming" monitors. They are rather competitive monitors. I would never in my right mind play a pretty single player game on a TN panel and nobody else should. Fuck the refresh rate if your game looks like shit. It's just not immersive.

The 100~144hz IPS and VA panels might be a good solution for single player games as well, but TN panels are still superior for their faster response which is especially important for a stupid fast chaotic game like Overwatch which is otherwise a total smearfest.

Bottomline though, this is not a marketing meme or a useless feature intended to trick people into thinking it's irrelevant. High refresh rates were a "meme" since CRT monitors and we've been stuck on low refresh rates (and a whole lot of other problems) for far too long in this idiotic LCD era.

>>56377675
144hz still gives me a boner.
I laugh at the 60hz plebs!

>>56378735
>ViewSonic
What meme brand is this?

>>56377777
damn, son.

>>56392369
>I don't know about 1.3, but if they haven't changed the port itself then the cable will be the same.
>As I said, to ensure the cable works at high bandwidths it must be properly shielded, but it doesn't matter much if you're gonna get a short cheaper one. It will perform the same.

This is complete bullshit.

Cable impedance varies highly non-linearly with frequency due to things like skin effect, and DP 1.3/1.4 has 50% bandwidth than DP 1.2, so there's no automatic guarantee old cables could handle a higher symbol rate and/or a change in symbol coding.

>>56377777
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD

>>56377820
>Ignoring the 144hz IPS panels
>Ignoring 200hz VA panels
>Ignoring the Dell OLED monitor

Did you do any research at all or did you just assume that because the only 144hz monitors you could afford are TN that they all were?

>>56387303

Difference between them is minimal but you have to pay more for IPS. To sum up, IPS has better color accuracy but higher response time, while TN is the opposite. Given the chance i'd get IPS, but TN panels improved a lot recently, so don't fall for the IPS elitism meme

>>56387303
Unless you're looking straight on, at the perfect viewing angle, 100% (and I mean 100%) of the time - TN will be garbage for you.
If you move your head even slightly to the side, the colors will change.

BUT, TN is the fastest - no other LCD type can match the Black to White times of a good TN. (so given an equal refresh rate, a TN is less likely to show ghosting or overshoot)

VA types (but NOT AH-VA) are the best all rounders and have the best contrast (typically 5000:1 vs 1000:1 for IPS and 800:1 for TN)

If you can afford it, forget all three and get the Dell OLED monitor - it's the fastest, it has over 1,000,000:1 static contrast and supports close to 90% of Rec2020 colorspace.
It's fucking magic - but it's fucking expensive magic.

>>56387884
>1440p doesn't make any sense at 144Hz as video cards can barely run past 60Hz anyway

only if you're a poorfag

>>56393612

Viewing angles are a meme. If you're using a single monitor, it isn't a issue at all.

>b-but muh colors at the edge at the screen

Just stop.

>>56393720
sounds like you just have shit color perception, famalam

>>56387251
>My father has been running an electronical appliances business
>electronical
orly? my dad works at nintendo

>>56393935

I disagree, familia. I went from a shitty 1080p 60hz TN (Samsung S23B550V) to a 1440p 144hz TN (Dell S2716DG) to a 1440p 165hz IPS (Acer Predator XB271HU) so i'll lay down all the memes to you:

>response time

For TN, mostly a marketing meme. Monitors that claim to have 1ms response time only can achieve it in "fast" mode, which produces considerable ghosting. In reality, for a better experience, response time is ~2ms in normal mode which is fast too to be sincere, but a negligible differente to the 4-6ms response time of modern IPS monitors.

>backlight bleed

Can happen in both panels.

>color accuracy/viewing angles

Better on IPS but still a marginal difference IF you aren't doing video/photo editing aka playing shitty games and watching animus. The S2716DG, once calibrated, has formidable colors. And as i said, viewing angles are a meme if you have a single monitor.


That being said, IPS edges out the TN BUT you have to pay premium for it, which is questionable depending on what you're going to use. I still consider the Dell TN the best price/performance since you can get it on sale for ~$450.

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>>56377777
motherfucking
ch-ch-ch-CHECKED

>>56378983
if you can push 120/144 its better then 60 by far
if you cant, then you may want g/free sync as that will display each frame the moment its ready, makeing even sub 60 feel smooth, i have access to a 144 and i have a 60, i can tell you that the 144 had an un documented range that went to something around 18-23 and when we downclocked the gpu to force that frame rate, it still felt VERY responsive, something the 60hrz right next to it never felt as good.

but that's if you game, if you don't, then any 120/144 will do, but id put contrast over the refresh by a wide margin.

>>56385948
>>56385845

first off, 1440 doesn't look better then 1080p unless you turn aa off and compare, otherwise the resolution difference is negligible at best.

second, 4k is VERY worth it if you watch video, as 720p and 1080p both scale to it perfectly, unlike 720 to 1080 or 1080 to 1440, so there is no crappy image quality that you get with other resolutions outside of native.

third

if gameing
120/144>free/g sync>contrast>strobeing
If media
contrast>120/144=4k

>>56387251
Ideal monitor is around 100ppi, no need to scale the ui and completely piss away screen real estate, not to big that you can see pixels without massive contrast.

i want a 48 inch 4k monitor, because with a 48 inch i'm at just about 100ppi, and i get the screen real estate of 4 monitors, if my stocks play out ill be getting one in a year as a present to myself, but we will see, till then i'm just hoping my monitor holds out till oled are a thing that is cheap, because fuck me, seen one in a store, hard to go back to ips/tn screens after just knowing that exists.

>>56386021
had a 144 hrz hooked up right next to a 60 on same computer, moved screen around on the 144 smooth as butter, on the 60... holy shit was it always that choppy? yes, yes it is, you are just so use to it that it feels normal though.

>>56386267
frame displaying the moment the frame is ready = extremely responsive feel

this is not a meme, though its something you need to feel to understand, after feeling it, yea, i swear by it.

>>56390169
watch out because some cables will only do 60 hrz, don't fucking ask how but we got a displayport 1.4 cable and it only did 60.

>>56393053
cant justify the downgrade from 1200p to 1080p for cheap 120/144
cant justify the upgrade to 1440p from 1200p due to cost.

probably going to get a 4k 120/144 and window games, possibly window them and upscaling them 2x just so no processor hit but it fills the screen.

>>56394125
good tn can match ips in color (outside of pro work) if calibrated correctly

viewing angles are shit on both though, ips are particularly disappointing as a small skew to one side ruined the image same as my syncmaster t240... so either my tn is amazeing or ips just suck and everyones deluded.

>>56395121
>4k 120/144
Dosen't exist. I think

whats with the sudden
>if you play shooters only TN 144Hz bro
i always played with 60Hz TN, now i have 60Hz IPS 24" (LG something, midrange) and it feels better because of IPS. I play on same level as ever. Whats the point of 144Hz? You can react faster? In most good games map & situational awareness is the way to win rather than slightly faster reaction.

>>56395498
Have you tried a 144hz? You will notice the difference immediately.

>>56395307
no, not yet, but like i said i don't want to downgrade and 1440 isn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the price hike.

>>56395498
the difference is how smooth the game feels and how responsive it feels, which EASILY better then just a 60ips... hell i would argue outside of potential color accuracy, tn would be better if all you do is play games.

>>56378376
Or just not a gaymer

>>56395033
It's not jist a matter of screen size. In my opinion 4K is simply overkill now, since almost no movies, no clips and generally no media content is natively available at 4K. If you want to spend more and watch things at Full HD on a 4K screen, have fun.

>>56380263
Wait, where did you find a 2048*1535 IPS panel?
Clearly you're not retarded enough to call 1440p something retarded as 2K.

>>56387251
>I perfectly know what a 2k or even a 4K screen looks like.
So a 2048*xxxx and a 4096*xxxx screen.
Do tell us what those look like.

>>56380055
>interpolation
no

>>56377675
fantastic for any fps game. pretty much necessary

>>56396193
1080p and 720p scale into it perfectly so both of these look better on 4k, and because they scale perfect, you don't have the same 'non hd content looks like crap on hd tv' that you had when we went from crt to hd.

then you have my need of wanting multiple monitors but not wanting to deal with multiple monitors. i would have half the screen dedicated to a web browser acting like t monitors on top, then i have 2 more monitors worth of space to play with on the side. or i want to play a game, i could have it play at 3840x1080 or 3840x720 seamlessly.

a 4k monitor offers up a fuck load of interesting uses if you get it big enough, offers up more productivity, along with the ability to play 4k video without down sampling it wherever available.

For normal living room, yes, 4k is WAY to early for 4k content, but 720 and 1080 scaling make it viable, for computers, 4k at 28inch or lower is retarded, but large monitors offer so many uses especially for single display multimonitor like setups.

>>56396652
2k and 4k are generally 1080p and 2160p

>>56397082
People seem to think 2560*1440/2560*1600 are 2K.
If "4K" is 3840, then half of 3840 is..?
That's right 1080p.
So unless it's 4096, it's not 4K, it's UHD.

Best 1440p 144hz gsync monitor? I was thinking the Acer Predator XB270HU

>>56397120

TN: Dell S2716DG
IPS: Acer or ASUS, doesn't matter

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>>56377675

Better question is, are curved ultrawide monitors a meme?

>>56387466
144 is a multiple of 24, so you don't have to dick around with refresh rates if you're a movie snob. Otherwise, as the other anons said, you can always put your monitor at 120hz and do it that way.

High refresh rate monitors exist because of 3D failing miserably and manufacturers re-purposing the technology behind that and marketing it to gamers.

So yes, it kind of is.

>>56397154
nah they're legit kino af

>>56396679
>So a 2048*xxxx and a 4096*xxxx screen.
>Do tell us what those look like.
Those formats are so retarded I can't even think how a human being with a functioning brain could ever use them.

>>56397264

Oh so that explains me and other people who played quake 1 - 3 in 120hz back in 1996 - 2000, it was because of the failure of 3d tvs!

i own a 144hz monitor, unless you play csgo - don't get it

i own a 144hz monitor, unless you're a pleb - don't get it

>>56379124
Look up SVP. Basically adds frames inbetween movements for silky smoothness.
There's minimal quality loss because MPEG4 and newer uses motion vectors.

why aren't there 4k 144hz oled monitors yet anyways?

>>56397866

csgo is too slow to make proper use of a 144hz screen

>>56377675
Personally I prefer the rich colours of my dell ultrasharp. Its IPS 1440p 60Hz. That said I notice the response time in games like CS-GO and Dota 2. I mainly play single player games though so no problem for me.

They're not a meme they were designed for a niche audience and they are good for that niche audience.

>>56397907
Didn't it take them awhile to get 4k from 30Hz to 60Hz? I would say its a bit harder to get it to run at 144Hz.

>>56397951
csgo is actually the only game that realistically benefits from a 144hz screen

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>tfw your monitor can't go further than 60hz despite costing 1000$
fuck off asus

>>56397866
What about CSGO would make it more fanciful than any other game for having a high refresh rate? Literally everything can benefit from it. Do you think CSGO is the only FPS to ever exist or something?

60 hz looks fine until you try 144 Hz. It trains your eyes capacity actually. With that being said a major downside to 144 Hz is that you will NEVER be able to use a computer monitor with 60 Hz ever again. Its a huge difference just days after you try one.

>>56398041
I don't understand. If you wanted 144Hz why not buy a 144Hz monitor?
Your making out you were tricked.

Also have you tried overclocking? Might be able to get it to 70-80Hz

>>56398204
4K tricked me anon.
There's no going back now

>>56398035

No, csgo is slow so 60hz is just fine for it.

QW\q3\ql needs 144hz.

>>56397431
Indeed, so stop using faulty K resolutions.

2048*1536 was popular back in 2001 with the 19' Syncmaster CRT screens.
Don't you fucking dare using proper 2K resolutions incorrectly.

>>56393072
Haven't tried their 144hz but their 1080p 60hz standard monitors have really nice contrast, I'd expect their 144hz to look extremely nice. One I had was a great monitor until it was killed, RIP.

>>56398041
My $1300 monitor does like 40Hz effectively.

20ms delay on 60Hz, isn't real 60FPS in games since you need to be less than 16.7ms to even break even with Hz and FPS.

>>56377675
For anything other than FPS games? yes.

I really like my 1440p 60hz IPS monitor but I've been thinking about getting a gaming monitor. 1080p 144hz TN.
Would I get $400 of value out of it? There's no way I'm going back to 1080p for daily use.

>>56398539
Get a 1440p 144Hz. That way it will go better side by side with your equally large 1440p.
Though not sure if there's cheap IPS for that Hz.

>>56398567
I'm pretty sure my 1070 won't power 1440p at that refresh rate. Dunno aye. I definitely notice some lag. And I cant stand an inconsistent frame rate. I would rather play 30fps than fluctuate 40-60 fps.
My monitor is also 25" so i probably wont be able to match it with anything.

>>56398615
See it like this...
Would you rather have solid 60FPS on a 60Hz monitor with ghosting?
Or solid 60FPS on a 144Hz that have no ghosting?

>>56398624
Oh so your saying running a 144Hz monitor at 60 FPS still looks cleaner than 60Hz at 60FPS?

>>56398641
It really does.
Not only that but everything else you use the computer for runs smoother.
And if I can run most my games at 144FPS on my GTX 3.5GB you should be able to at 1440p with that GTX1070.
I know you also have more games than whatever brand new DX13 8K resolution texture game you're expecting to play in your backlog.

>>56398663
Hmm. I will definitely look into replacing it then. Got a few upgrades in mind though. Getting a mech keyboard today then switching up to i7(from 8320) in the not to distant future.

Yea I've actually been playing heaps of Rise of Nations lately because I've been to tired to play the newer games.

>>56398737
Best if you could try out a friends monitor that have 144Hz, because I don't want you to feel buyers remorse (not that I'd think that's possible) if you buy the wrong monitor.
But yeah, playing at 60Hz is almost like people saying 30 is bad when playing at 60.
FPS is especially smooth, and racing games is impossible to play at 60FPS once you've played att 144FPS.

>From 8320 to i7
Damn, you're gonna enjoy this new PC then.
Make sure you get the K models if you're into gaming because 15-20% OC is so easily done that you simply change a multiplier value in UEFI and hit save and bam, from 3.5GHz to 4.6GHz no sweat.

>>56398784
I like buying parts slowly.
I've had the same PC for the last six years but have non of the original parts.
The 8320 isn't actually as bad as it sounds, the bottle kneck is their but its not that bad.
I have it clocked to 4.4Ghz and it runs Witcher 3 1440p at ultra, solid 60fps.
But yes I am going to enjoy the i7.

>>56398884
The thing is, that 4.4GHz AMD is about as fast as a 3.4GHz i5 when it comes to games with crap thread optimization.
It's good in multicore applications though.

Don't forget to buy a SSD unless you haven't already, ignore the typical /g/ tards and enjoy the rubberband-free PC usage.

Using a HDD in a PC is like driving a car with extreme turbo lag but without the actual boost in power.

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>>56377675

A TN panel will give you a pixel response time of 1ms, but this is the time for a pixel to change from grey to another shade of grey. A more typical colour change in the event of high motion, say from green to blue, takes about ~20ms in modern monitors.

60fps is 16.66ms per frame, and if the pixels of the monitor can only change colour once every 20ms.. well, you do the math. Now you know why people say they can't see a difference above ~45fps - it's not their eyes, it's their monitor's pixel response time that's limiting them.

If you buy a proper monitor like a $800 ASUS monitor instead of some shitty $200 Korean monitor """144hz""" monitor on Ebay, you will actually get a pixel response time that will display above 60hz (top end ASUS one does ~5ms colour change, which is enough for 200hz).

Even if you've got money to burn and a GTX 1080 ready to go, it can still be a waste, because the only time 120hz+ matters is when there is rapid movement. Unless you're playing some old game, your computer is going to go to 60fps or less to load in objects as you turn around. Even if you turn a modern game's settings to medium to compensate, which isn't worth it anyway), I doubt you'd get much above 60fps when doing a 360.

>>56397883

Frame interpolation for video is useful only in certain scenarios, granted you have a monitor to match. For directed film, it is typically no good. What you need to realize is that everything in a directed film is in there for a reason. The director *knew* that he was limited to 24fps, and so that is most likely how he went about filming it (i.e. very few high-motion scenes). In film, blurring can also be a good thing perceptually (they have attempted to transfer this to games in the form of 'motion blur' and 'depth of field'). If you use frame interpolation for film, most likely all you are doing is introducing visual artifacts caused by bad pixel movement decisions (imagine only half a face moved for a frame, or a number of pixels moved too far compared to the rest).

For porn, frame interpolation probably isn't useful, because there aren't many high-motion panning scenes, if at all. There is high motion, but it is usually contained within a small portion of the video area. A 60hz screen can move a pixel ~1-2cm without any blur at all. The only case in which frame interpolation makes sense, is for say a recording taken from the seat of an F1 car as it's going around the track.

>>56399101
Not him but here's an example I made some time ago.

https://a.pomf.cat/hwhsds.webm

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>>56399216

I honestly can't tell the difference just by watching it, if you hadn't labelled it

Looking at it frame-by-frame I think I found an example of the bad pixel prediction I was talking about, though this could just be the source

>>56399489
Might not be visible for you because you somehow have bought a 30Hz monitor.

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>>56399530

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>>56377777
>56377777

>>56397253
120 is also a multiple of 24.

>>56385579
>Resolution is the most important aspect of any display
not when you have static content of any kind, then it can become harmful since you're just playing the upscale game forever. and yes, games have quite a bit of static content. 99.999% of games don't even have textures or engines that use those textures that make full use of 1080p.

>wow those console textures shure look great at 8k!

>>56377777
Whoa nice digits

>>56379477
so? blacks on IPS are still worse than most other display technologies like plasma, oled, dlp, etc.

and with IPS what you gain in color you not only loose in speed, you also get shit like light bleed. most IPS displays don't have that great of contrast either, better than TN but not much better.

>>56393072
seriously? viewsonic is one of the oldest monitor bran's that exists. they made great CRTs.

>>56378104
Lol same here

>>56378735
Nixeus makes a pretty good one I read

recently built a 1080p 144hz setup for a friend and the difference is very much noticeable, so no

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>>56398478
what kind of shitty monitor did you buy that cost over one grand

>>56399935
>so? blacks on IPS are still worse than most other display
That's exactly why you should get IPS instead of literally the worst possible, TN.
>most IPS displays don't have that great of contrast either, better than TN but not much better
Wrong, it's night and day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MO-XaCZ_8
Granted, those generation Thinkpad models have atrocious TN panels, but the striking difference still stands.

>>56401434
Night and day is a bit of an exaggeration, nevermind the fact that that comparison is piss poor because it uses a below average laptop TN panel. I went from an R240HY to an XL2411Z some time back and it was indeed abhorrent out of the box but after spending an hour or two trying different in-monitor settings and ICC profiles it looked pretty much 99% as good as the IPS did even when comparing them side by side. As far as practical ways of looking at my monitor go, I don't feel any issue whatsoever with the viewing angles and I can still easily read small text on the screen even if I'm looking down at it directly from above or at an extreme angle to the sides which I'm never going to be doing anyways. I tried a 27" 1440p 60hz IPS (U2715H) for a couple of days and ended up returning it because I preferred 144hz and didn't feel the colors and resolution were enough of an improvement to justify it. Now I'm saving up for a nice 1440p 144hz IPS G-Sync monitor which should be the best of both worlds. Don't be a retard, take the time to calibrate your display and unless you do image/video editing for a living you can most likely get by with a TN panel without any serious drawbacks.

>>56401213
U3011 when it was new.
Tax here is insane as well.

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>not buying 32" 1440P VA with Freesync

It's actually quite good, if I say so myself.

>>56377675
144hz is magic but 200hz may be a meme

>>56399950
Except they were a meme brand back then too...

Diamondtron > All (even real Trinitron)
>That glorious thunk as the monitor hard degaussed on every power on

144hz TN or stretch for IPS? I want one for csgo/battlefield etc.

>>56386949
>quints
>dubs
become an hero

>>56402298
>I want one for csgo/battlefield etc
144hz TN @ 1ms.

Like, it's literally designed for quick response games like cs:go and such.

Though honestly, if you aren't 'pro' or decent at those games, then it really doesn't matter?

>>56402393
Nah but I feel this 999ms dell workstation monitor from 2006 has served its purpose and needs to retire. I feel like it holds me back.

>>56402393
It won't make him better, but it will feel much better, and be enjoyable.
>>56402298
go for it

>>56397095
yea, when you get marketing to stop calling 3840x2160 4k i'll stop calling it 4k

>>56387711
>11010111000110100001111111
Nice binary septs

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>>56377777
with this kid of power, you could change the world. your words would be read by entire endlessly large society of /g/-technology, and people would take it for granted because that's how quints work

and you decided to waste it on nigger joke. you're disappointment

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>>56377675
oh well
from this image, it looks like ghosting is way more severe on 144hz
i have no idea why people would want it

>>56378532
Wot dat

>>56403418
They're just what he said. Except the colors are awful at there's like a 10ms response time GTG.

>>56378309
This is what I experienced aswell, after plugging in my /g/ approved VG248QE

>b-but anon, /g/ says 144Hz is a meme
Not back when I bought it. Everyone was totally in love with high frame rate displays.

>b-but anon, /g/ never changes its mind just like that, there has to be a reason
Right, just look at the SSD, 16Gb, Overclocking, Arch etc. "memes". All of these things were once loved by the majority of /g/ and now they are "le ebin and funni maymays. Xd".

If people like >>56377675 cant distinguish "meme memes" from "true memes", you don't belong here.

>>56404255
Neither SSD nor 144 Hz refresh rate is a meme though. They boost performance by a lot.

>>56404284
>I have never seen a "hurr durr, SSDs and 144Hz are just meme bois" thread
Welcome to /g/, newfag.

Also, /g/ loves to say that totally fine tech is a meme now, just because its becoming mainstream. Back when noone was able to buy SSDs there were literally no "SSDs are just a meme" threads. Back when no one outside of /g/ thought about using Arch, /g/ loved it.
Now that these things are mainstream, they suddenly became /g/s epic and super funny memes Xd.

Hipster trash should be banned from this board, simply because this attitude has nothing to do with tech.

>>56377675
165hz, G-Sync here... So buttery smooth...

>>56404356
>Hipster trash should be banned from this board
4chan culture will always be reactively contrarian, because it's full of insecure losers.

>>56377675
It doesn't depend on surrounding lights, distance from the screen and source's quality, so no, it's not a meme. Resolution can be a meme. Colors are 100% meme. Just try it before you buy it, like you should do with everything pretty much.

>>56404455

im waiting for 4k 120hz, not for games, but 120hz is so much smoother than 60hz in just windows.

>>56404527
>4k
>120Hz
Combining 2 memes does not make it not a meme. :^)

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>>56377777
>you will NEVER get dope numbers

Is 120hz or 144hz the bigger meme?

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>>56404815
I just got a BenQ XL2411Z and after messing around with .icc and monitor settings I fucked up. Now I see this weird artifact crap (pic related) How do I fix this?

>>56405284
That's gradient banding not "weird artifact".
The ICC profile is causing it, but it can't be helped if you want color calibration.
Color calibration works by offsetting RGB ranges.

To restore the standard use the srgb ICC profile.

>>56377820
ever heard of having dual monitors?
144hz for games other for movies etc

>>56392028
>No, they are not a meme. It really is worth it. Also, don't run it at 144, run it at 120 but strobed using strobelight (just Google it). Even better than 144.

This. Holy fuck it made my Asus monitor worth it.

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>>56405651
This one?

>>56405701
Yes

>>56405701
Använd Engelska drivisar och OS, mycket smidigare.

>>56405744
It's a lot better, but I can still see some banding issues. This is the best I could manage when messing with the monitor settings while using calibration images. Maybe I should just return this monitor and get an IPS. I can't decide between IPS 60hz or TN 144hz. I could get an IPS 144hz monitor, but they are quite expensive ;_;

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>>56405744
>>56405903
forgot pic
>>56405894

>>56405894
Kjenner folk i dag som har Windows på norsk. just..

>>56405932
>Bara knull up min dator

>>56405918
I just realized that you wont be able to see the banding issue, kek

>>56405969
I see it.
Steam use bad grading, and 8-bit monitors wouldn't be able to view grading free colors anyway.
You need 10-bit or 12-bit for that.

>>56405918
Oh well, I just checked.
It's actually just like that. Steam just tried to stretch a gradient betwen two values that are too close.
They should've used a dithering pattern.

Only a 10bit panel could handle a gradient from RGB 37 to 22. Assuming the application is capable to using the extra colors.

>>56402928
Binary septs are about equally as likely as normal dubs though.

>>56393072
My dentist uses their monitors with P4 windows XP machines

>>56405903
Banding/posterization is something of an issue inherent with 18b, TN, and VA panels to varying degrees.

IPS will never have it, but you do get the off-angle grey light leakage, and high Hz capacity comes at some expense of color accuracy.

LCD cell types all have different tradeoffs in design, and anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.

also,
> plasma - too heavy, too dim compared to LCD, still has lingering power consumption and burn-in concerns
> OLED - blue emitters still too short-lived
> FED/SED - intractable longevity issues from plasma etching of emitters
> QDLED - all the best QD types based on heavy metals, making blue ones is hard, will probably be found to cause cancer or some shit by yuropoors and californiafags