/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for i3 is comfy

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>>56348159

>>56348578
how do you set up an active desktop in i3?


why is fedora so based everyone, is it because its put on by redhat?

>>56348677
Strong community of developers, strong alliance with upstream package developers. Adhering to strict package distribution guidelines and fast adoption of new technologies.

>>56348710
t. fedora representative and community manager

>>56348677
Define active desktop

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>Meet the /fglt/ team:

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Hey it's the corsair fag from before. Here's my situation:

>Corsair m45 mouse
>Want to use it on mint
>Unable to scroll, use right click, use nav buttons, or switch dpi
>software which controls settings is not available for linux (http://www.corsair.com/en-us/support/downloads)

Is there anything I can do? I have a spare mouse but I'd like to be able to use my normal one.

>>56348942
>Is there anything I can do?

try posting in the proper thread next time for starters ;)

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>>56348557
Any of you nerds used Solidworks in WINE? How does it run?

I am asking for both my desktop AND laptop, really. Windows runs like garbage on my laptop for whatever reason, even though I can run KDE even better. (Although I choose not to.) And I just am trying to break my windows dependency as much as I can on my desktop.

>>56348764
>>56348814
found the guy who was banned from the irc

>>56348643
>>>/a/

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>tfw I thought Manjaro would be comfy and easy to use.

I keep having to figure out small tedious problems. It's not even fun.

I'm having a major brain fart
I want to input a percentage and find the percentage of a number based upon it.

for example, I want to input 90 and have my program come up with 90% of 4400. however bash is retarded so I can't just use a percent.

what do I do

>>56349621
fucking christ it's literally multiplying 4400 by a decimal I'm so retarded
I'm just gonna go jump off a bridge now

>>56349666
holy shit, at least you figured it out anon.

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>>56348557
Ok so i just installed this.... now what..

>>56349852

dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda

>>56349852
Why did you install it if you don't know what to do with it?

how would one recover from

# rm /lib/libc.so.6

without rebooting?

>>56348643
It doesn't really matter

>>56349952
>https://www.linux.com/news/bring-back-deleted-files-lsof
looks like some mild black magic

>>56349621
>>56349666
alright fuck bash, it can't even handle decimals

I had to coble something up in python for it to work
the neat thing is I've never used python before about 20 minutes ago
I should really learn it

#!/usr/bin/python
import sys
import os
brightness=input(sys.argv)*4400
os.system("echo %g > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" %brightness)

now I just need to figure out how to make it accept 90 instead of .90

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Whats the lightest debian based distro?

>>56350081
devuan

where on their filesystem does /g/ usually mount extra HDDs? i was mounting mine in ~/Drives/ but i realized that's probably a bad idea if i want to log out of my account, any suggestions? I have 5 HDDs besides my OS drive so it kind of needs a dedicated directory

what are some good qt widget styles?

breeze looks pretty awful

>>56350080
`dc` is available pretty much everywhere, but it's insane

$ keks=80
$ dc -e "4400 $keks 0.01 * * 1 / p"
3520

I'm having an issue with a shitty Dell E1505 I decided to put Mint on. I tried it out via a live USB to see if the laptop would be speedy enough for my usage, and everything was fine. Now that it's installed I have no audio, and the moment it boots into post I get the sound of a horse trotting in my speakers. Repeated constantly, two clicks at a time, about five four clicks per second. I had to fix the hinges that hold the screen on, but I can't imagine this would have caused the issue. Any ideas? I've done a lot of googling today and I'm frankly ready for a little spoon-feeding if anyone is willing.

>>56350081
The one that comes with no window manager.

>>56350239
Fusion Dark is awesome

Shotcut uses it

>>56350081
Devuan.

>>56350080
>I just need to figure out how to make it accept 90 instead of .90
Are you in kindergarten?

>>56350081
Debian or devuan

>>56350214
/mount

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>>56350239
I used Arc Dark for a bit.

Just installed Debian and I've been playing around editing files and such, I came across something kind of curious. I installed Archey to increase my swag levels, and someone on reddit said to add the line archey to ~/.bashrc iirc. I did that and it still didn't boot, so I added it to the file in the usr directory which, I think, was somewhere under the /usr/ directory.

When I opened the 2nd file and added the line, it worked. There was also a lot more lines written in that file. Long post, I know, but why are there two different files with that name? And why did only one of them work?

>>56351221
When I say boot, I mean the logo and system info appeared automatically when I opened the terminal, whereas I had to manually type archey to do it before. I'm trying to get used to using nano and editing files from the terminal since I don't have permissions if I use the file manager.

Het /fglt/ I'm quite a noob and I've run into a problem, I haven't found a sollution on google so I thought I'd ask for help here.

I'm trying to install manjaro on an old computer using a usb boot.
I'm using a cd with plop, since this old computer doesn't accept usb to boot.

I've only gotten the usb to work by pressing u+alt in the main menu, but after it gives me the available boot options and I type start and return, it doesn't continue it just stops there and won't do anyting else.

What should I do?

Is there any program for Linux for playing videos that can remember your position in a single video, or even a playlist of multiple videos?

I'd like to just be able to quickly close and start it without having to always try and remember where I was before

>>56351605
>manjaro
found your problem

>>56351633
mpv

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What's the best CD burning software for Linux a la Imgburn for Windows? Particularly for creating .cue files for flacs.

>>56351648
Damn it I knew I shouldn't have asked for help here.

>>56351648
I have mpv but how do I make do that?

>>56351673

save-position-on-quit

>>56351697
oh wow, this actually works with playlists too. Thanks anon, sorry for not checking the manpage myself before asking. Really just didn't think mpv would do something like that

>>56349621
>however bash is retarded so I can't just use a percent.
The only retard here is you son.

>>56350080
percent=$((100*$item/$total))

hello /g/
I use an alias that has:

service apache2 status | grep Active && service mysql status | grep active

And it would output something like this:

Active: active (running) since Wed 2016-08-31 16:34:07 XXX; 42min ago
Active: active (running) since Wed 2016-08-31 16:33:54 XXX; 42min ago

1. How do I label each line according to the service it is check?
2. How do I colorize the output word (active==green, inactive==red etc)

>>56352143
printf '\033[32mActive\033[m\n'
grep command for active stuff
printf '\033[31mInactive\033[m\n'
grep command for inactive stuff

30-37 black, red, green, yellow, blue, magenta, cyan, white
use 40-47 for coloring the background

>>56350081
Enjoy your retarded package manager

>>56352143
I also suggest to use a function, not an alias.

checkstatus() {
    printf '\033[32mActive\033[m\n'
    service apache2 status | grep Active
    service mysql status | grep active
    printf '\033[31mInactive\033[m\n'
    service apache2 status | grep Inactive
    service mysql status | grep inactive
}

>>56352221
Go away neo /g/.

>>56352221
but apt has lots of config files and --long-options and three dependency levels because you need to have things the maintainers thought would be handy automatically installed, that means it's good

even if it's bad at actually managing packages

>apt broke, can't do anything, at all
>the debian user becomes very good at getting out of this situation

>>56352243
>even if it's bad at actually managing packages
nope, using it since years, never had a problem

>>56351605
>>56351648
Alright, I put lubuntu on the usb now.
Same thing happens, I select try ubuntu without installing and it freezes.

I remember the first time I installed debian

I learned that you had to upgrade the entire system before installing even one program, or apt would deadlock itself until you used dpkg to manually untangle it

now i use nextstep (OS X) because spaghetti package systems are for hodge-podge hobby systems with nary a standard API

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>GNU/Linux

emacs users get out

>>56351232
There is no bash related configuration in /usr.
But to answer your question, bash has multiple configuration files, which can be categorized as follows, system wide and per user, login and non-login, interactive and non-interactive.
I'll explain per user config.
.bashrc is run for non-login shells, that means it's run for example when you open a terminal like konsole or xterm.
.bash_profile is run for login shells and is run when you log on to console instead of GUI or log to a remote machine via ssh.
Some people source .bashrc from .bash_profile for this exact reason, to unify the config for login and non-login shells.

Things get little more complicated with other shells, sh uses .profile for login shells for example and bash has compile flags for interactivity checking etc.
Usually .bashrc is non-login AND interactive, so that bash scripts don't run it.

Same files exist for root and also exist as systemwide configs in /etc.

https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#Bash-Startup-Files

>>56352233
Thanks anon but it doesnt label which line of status is the service belonging to.

Just add a second line.

checkstatus() {
    printf 'Apache: \033[32mActive\033[m\n'
    service apache2 status | grep Active
    printf 'MySQL: \033[32mActive\033[m\n'
    service mysql status | grep active
    printf 'Apache: \033[31mInactive\033[m\n'
    service apache2 status | grep Inactive
    printf 'MySQL: \033[31mInactive\033[m\n'
    service mysql status | grep inactive
}

>>56350080
If your system uses acpi_video0 instead of intel_backlight like mine, no need for that, just put this in a xorg.conf.d file.

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "Backlight" "intel_backlight"
EndSection

Trying to add a keyboard shortcut in rc.xml in openbox to open a file in nano (nano ~/.todo). I assumed the execute action would achieve this but it doesn't seem to work. Incidentally I've tried adding a keyboard shortcut for ranger before which didn't worked either. How would I get these commands to open in the terminal with a shortcut?

If not I suppose I can just add an alias for todo. It would be nice to get the ranger shortcut working as it's currently quicker to open a GUI file manager.

>>56352921

<action name="Execute">
    <command>gnome-terminal -e "nano /home/username/.todo"</command>
</action>

>>56353020
Thanks. Feel a bit foolish for never having looked at my terminal emulator's man page.

>>56351651
Look into cdparanoia

okay im new to this so sorry if it stupid but which version of GNU/linux do i get for gaming/digital art, 3d dedign etc purposes?

>>56350081
sudo pacman -Rs your-shit-meme

>>56353282
I use debian for that but any would do.
Are you using blender, krita, inkscape and gimp or something else? I know that there is a maya executable for rpm/fedora/centos if you are into that (i personally prefer blender).

Archbabby here, considering a switch to Debian and got some questions:

1) What is the rolling version, is it testing or unstable?
2) How to get the rolling version? I can only find stable images.
3) I hear memes about security flaws and breakage on testing and unstable, did I fall for the meme or are there problems?
4) On Arch I check the news for possible breakage, what is the Debian way?
And finally
5) Is there a way to get a minimal version of Debian where I can install my favorite packages without preinstalled DE etc?

i need a light os for a netbook that isnt shit specwise


ive tried mint with MATE DE, ran pretty smooth, but can it get faster?

was thinking of puppy or crunchbang

thoughts?

>>56353502
>netbook that IS shit specwise*

>>56353502
mint is utter crap, dont use it
puppy is basically for a stick or live cd
crunchbang is dead, if you want something simliar, get the succsessor "bunsenlabs"

if your goal is a light system, don't choose by distro, get what you want but use a lightweight DE or even just a WM like openbox or for tiling i3, bspwm, dwm, for battery life, don't use flash; watch videos via mpv instead

>>56353502
Manjaro has some lightweight community spins for Xfeces, OpenBox, bspwm and i3. Try one of these.
Also >>56353532 bunsenlabs is pretty good if you want a prericed openbox Debian without configuring everything.

>>56353502
Arch
>>56353532
>bunsenlabs
Debian + sudo apt-get openbox tint2
>>56353562
>manjaro
If you are too stupid to install Arch go back to Windows

>>56353532
>>56353562
thanks for the help guys

also does that mean EVERY distro has options for lightweight DEs and WMs? also how do i watch a video via mpv

sorry, new as fuck

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>>56353593
10/10 meme skills
0/10 helpful informations
Typical Arch user shitpost.

>>56353607
>also does that mean EVERY distro has options for lightweight DEs and WMs? also how do i watch a video via mpv

Yep, most distros provide different DE versions, if not, you can still install a any DE or WM you like. As example, you can install a plain Ubuntu and then install i3. In your login manager you can select the new i3 session and that's it.

For mpv there's a nice Firefox addon called "Openwith", where you can add mpv. Then you just right click on any website or link to open it in mpv, youtube-dl (usually a dependency of mpv) will do all the job.

>>56353652
>broken english

>>56353607
Yes, I started with GNOME on fedora, then switched to cinnamon, then xfce and now openbox.

Install mpv whichever way your distro specifies.

In terminal:
mpv /path/to/file
mpv URL (if you have youtube-dl)

Optionally install open with firefox extension
Optionally set file associations for automatic opening with file manager

>>56353669
I'm just trying to help. ;_;

>>56353652
>>56353679

why is mint shit?

What's the most non may may-quintessential distribution?

Debian?
Ubuntu?
Red Hat?

>>56353751
Fedora or RHEL. Debian and its derivates are trash

Can someone help please, when i try to do

php artisan migrate

on laravel, i get

  [PDOException]         
  could not find driver  

How similar is the Android command line to Linux?

>>56353720
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
tl;dr mint is a hacked together distro that may look nice but under the hood there are serious security flaws and breakage

>>56353778
Why is Ubuntu/Debian trash? I like Unity

>>56353751
Debian if you know what you're doing.
Ubuntu (a fork of Debian) if you don't know what you're doing.
There's no reason for Red Hat stuff like RHEL unless you're a company and need payed support.
There's no good reason to use Fedora at all since it's a testbed for RHEL.
>>56353778
10/10 meme skills

>>56353778
Rhel requires a sub?

Is it actually worth it? I mean, what do you pay for? One year of software updates? Phone tech support with pajeet?

I would consider buying if it were a one time thing, or at least had the option for a one time purchase

>>56353950
You pay for tech support which is usefull for a company, but not for a casual user. A normalfag would use CentOS which is basically the same without support.

>>56353912
You can install Unity in other distros as well. Debian's repository is plain retarded and the system gets bloated over the time
>>56353932
Grow the fuck up retard.
>>56353950
developers.redhat.com

>>56353932
>Ubuntu (a fork of Debian) if you don't know what you're doing.
Why do debqueens feel ANY superior to ubuntu? If anything, *buntu is the superior debian

>>56353985
Just stop with your memes, seriously.
This is a friendly thread.

Lads I'm in dire need of help.

I have Xubuntu on my laptop.
I was changing the brightness settings from the top bar.

I accidentally put it all the way down (0%) and now it is fucking black.

Removing the laptop from AC does nothing.
Restarting it only gives black screen because brightness is set to 0%

The laptop controls that adjusted brightness when it was in Windows don't work (FN+arrow up or down)

h-h-elp

>>56354001
>memes
>Says the person who goes "Ubuntu (a fork of Debian) if you don't know what you're doing." and "There's no good reason to use Fedora at all since it's a testbed for RHEL."

18+ board

>>56354030
>>56353996
>>56353778
i wish'd memers would just leave this thread
if i want to read how to rm -rf ~ i go to /b/

>>56354030
Great arguments.

>>56354030
>>56353985

HEY hey

This is a FRIENDLY Linux thread. Not a meanie Linux thread

What's going on with that new "Debian is bad" meme? I don't get it. It's one of the oldest distros, many distros are based on it and even the NASA is using it.

Seriously. I'm using Debian Sid since about 5 years on 4 machines and never had a problem. If anyone has questions, in case something doesn't work, feel free to ask, but please don't spread disinformation.

>>56354060
You were arguing? Sorry I couldn't take your low quality post seriously.

>>56354046
What are you trying to say actually?

>>56354028
Install xbacklight http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man1/xbacklight.1.html and follow:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight#xbacklight

>>56354118
some newfriend some threads ago wasn't able to uninstall gnome, archkids were like
>debqueens BTFO
that all

memes

>>56354118
>even the NASA is using it.
What does that have to do with anything?
NASA started using Debian in 2015. So are you saying debian suddenly became good last year?

>>56353828
that's does make sense

>>56354137
How can I uninstalled GNOME? I installed it like this:
#apt install gnome-core.

Now
#apt autoremove --purge gnome-core isn't removing gnome packages

>>56354162
uninstall*

Does anyone know of a usable lightpack app for Ubuntu (16.04.1)? The only two I have found won't even start.

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Question:

If local physical security isn't really a concern, is it alright if my root and user passwords are somewhat weak? (My standards for strong are 20+ random character passwords or passphrases, which is what I use with a password manager for my online accounts)

Meaning: is there any way an outside agent could exploit relatively weak local passwords, or is privilege escalation not really a thing on desktops in normal cases?

I ask because I'd like to know if I'm making a compromise in external security by choosing an easy relatively weak password for my su and sudo commands.

By all means tell me anything you know on the subject, I wanna learn.

>>56354129
How do I install anything when my screen is black lmao

>>56354162
gnome-core will only remove gnome-core and mark all other gnome packages as manually installed, because by removing only gnome-core, you tell apt that you want to keep the other packages. If you want to remove gnome, remove gnome, this will tell apt that you actually want to remove the whole DE, then and run autoremove to remove the dependencies.

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I have this headless dedicated torrentbox

any good distro that can replace windows?
as long as i can host ftp, access torrent using web ui, remote access

should i stick with windows?
My only experince is ubuntu btw

>>56354162
To see what package includes what run
apt-cache show <package>

>>56354258
I think pressing Cntrl Alt f1 or f8 will do the trick

>>56354268
>>56354292
he shouldn't install gnome-core in the first place
that's the whole failure

>>56354285
Ubuntu

Okay, I got my screen working.

I used flashlight, pointed it at the screen, so I could manage to find myself in to brightness control.

Now, I set it to 100% but nothing changed until I rebooted (something had crashed probably?)

Second question.

Is there a way to disable my laptop's own mouse pad when I plug in external mouse?

This is somewhat of an annoyance while I write with Libreoffice and my fingers screw with the pad accidentally and then the mouse is somewhere else

>>56354268
Must be a debian thing then. Other distors actually remove gnome packages when they are told to remove gnome.

>Anon get rid of the flower vase
>Anon gets rid of the flower vase
>Anon, why are the flowers still here?
>"You didn't tell me to get rid of the green flower, the yellow one, the red one, the leaves, etc"

>>56354292
Did I ask what gets installed if I install GNOME core, I just want to get rid of the relevant packages

>>56354310
Welp, yeah. gnome-core is a meta-package, included in gnome, which is the actual meta-package that holds gnome-core and other stuff.

>>56354354
>Other distors actually remove gnome packages when they are told to remove gnome.
Yes, but if you want to remove gnome-core, you're going to remove gnome-core, not gnome. That's the whole misunderstanding.

>>56354392
so gnome-core doesn't remove the DE, only the core metapackage?

>>56354417
Correct

>>56354417
Exactly. It's just like, as example, when you install metapackage1 which holds package-a and package-b. When you remove package-a, package-b and metapackag1 will stay. To get rid of the whole thing, you need to remove metapackage1.

>>56354434
So what's the GNOME-DE package? If I am going to install GNOME and want to actually be able to uninstall the DE?

>>56354341
Yes, there is. You're using XFCE though so no idea where the setting is. If it's not in a GUI, it's in a config file. Google it, I'm sure you'll find it.

>>56354448
>when you install metapackage1 which holds package-a and package-b. When you remove package-a, package-b and metapackag1 will stay. To get rid of the whole thing, you need to remove metapackage1.
>GNOME-core is metapackage 1
>Nautilus is pkg a
>GNOME contacts is pkg b


>Uninstall metapackage1
>pkg a and b stays back

>>56354481
Look for yourself:
apt-cache show gnome-core
apt-cache show gnome

>>56354502
jesus christ, now I get it
gnome-core and gnome are BOTH meta packages!
gnome is a metapackage that includes the gnome-core metapackage that includes the desktop and other trash

holy kek, I'm enlightened

Christ, the retard is back.
kys

>>56354527
No problem, enjoy.

>>56354502
Will not make any difference, gnome-weather will remain intact even after removing gnome.

>>56354530
lmao you are just mad that your repo is a piece of shit

>>56354238
>Having strong passwords

You niggers act like people give a shit about your loli porn

Always logged as root master race

>>56354549
Whatever makes you happy. Doesn't mean that it's the truth tho.

>>56354553
I don't say this often but you need to go back to windows, mouth breather

>>56354553
It's your head on a spike if something goes wrong in your computer, not mine

I'm using kdeconnect and have just discovered you can send commands with it. I have set up a few basic ones like 'sleep' but I am having some problems with more complex ones. Really what I want to do is to send a message to open krunner or konsole, have a command inserted and entered. I can't find a way to do this though, however I try it only the main program is opened and then nothing happens (the inserting command part).

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Recommend me a slim GNOME 3 theme. Using Zukitre right now and it's better than Adwaita but I need to go slimmer. If theme extends to window list (Zukitre doesn't) it's a big plus.

>>56354527
>/fglt/ learns how packages work
I'm impressed.

>>56354567
It is though. There is a full video up if it rubs you in the wrong way even more

:^)

>>56354586
Only took him two weeks of constant shit posting and being explained a million times for him to get it.

Why couldn't I install Ubuntu with bios in UEFI? I swear I read it was possible but I couldn't find a way.

>>56354586
>how packages work
how debian packages ""work""
FTFY

>>56354589
Well, whatever some clueless anon did wrong in said video - I don't have this problem.

>>56354607
>I don't have this problem.
>Lying on an anon image board
kek

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>>56354603
You need to create separate partition for /boot/efi. Ubuntu doesn't inform you because it's a shit distro. Come to the light bro.

>>56354618
>lying
Why would I? I have no reason to.
The only problem I have is when memers try to spread disinformation and want newcomers to delet system32.

That said, I don't even use Debian anymore. So there's no reason for bandwagon faggotry.

>>56354599
For the record, I'm not him.

See >>56354549

>>56354650
But you are lying. Solid proof is in the video.
APT can't remove GNOME

>>56354618
Not him but would you post a link so we can check?

>>56354641
Well fug.

I'm using Winshit because I'm gamertard but once I playthrough the Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 I'll try my luck again

>>56354670
No, you and apt are not the same thing.

>>56354670
Did you even read the thread? Holy crap. The problem was already solved.

>>56354572
>>56354574

But why

Who gives a fuck about some neckbeard's data

No one

Unless you're protecting your system from yourself in which case you're the one that needs to go back to Windows

>>56354672
>we
Sure thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NysoCN9RR_c

>>56354686
Not really, no. Where do you see the problem is resolved?

Reminder: Don't feed the trolls.

>>56354689
>Who gives a fuck about some neckbeard's data
People that make ransomware, dumb hindu nuffin

>>56354705
Watched the video and found the problem in the first seconds. He wanted to install gnome, but installed gnome-core.

Read this post by some anon who seems to be more intelligent than you: >>56354527

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>>56354689
I can't wait for you to run some program with buggy code which has a terrible blunder on it as root, and then find yourself wondering why your hard drive got nuked or something similarly terrible.

>>56354689
>The good ole' "Nothing to Hide" argument

Oh man I've never seen that one before, wew, you stumped me. I guess you're right, everyone that cares about security and privacy must be a pedo or something right? How could I be so blind

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>>56354735
>tfw someone on the internet calls you intelligent
t-thanks

>>56354735
See >>56354549

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>>56354238
Anyone? Pls respond. I wanna know if I need to make my local passwords also secure if physical access to an attacker is not an attack vector I'm concerned about.

So my non-profit license for TeamSpeak server was taken because i was selling game servers and some faggot reported me.
How can i get 512slots license, cracked?

>>56354792
>2011+5
>Still using Teamspeak

Discord exists and is gratis and has more features, you know.

And several free software as well is available for similar purposes.

>>56354803
Discord is fucking garbage, let alone not free as in freedom.

>>56354803
I had 300~450 users on ts all day long.
People using it play dota, lol, cs, csgo and they like it because there is no changes in ping.

>>56354812
>>56354818
Between Teamspeak and Discord, Discord is better. And I didn't claim it was free. I stated it was gratis.
No offense but they're suckers for buying your game servers when a better gratis alternative exists. Never had problems with ping changes on Discord

>>56354841
>No offense but they're suckers for buying your game servers when a better gratis alternative exists

I dont understand what are you trying to say?
I was selling servers, like counter strike servers, hosting+support 24/7.

>>56354883
Oh nevermind, thought you got TS servers on a non-profit license and then sold those

Anyone ITT using Tox? Is it really a /g/ project that isn't shit? It's listed under prism-break and I'm thinking about to use it.

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Which GNU/Linux should I install on my new chinkpad?

Guys I tried manjaro on a VM.
Kinda liked it but is there some kind of minimal instalation of manjaro without all that crap it comes with?

You know, without all that software and shit, I like to install all that myself.

>>56355260
Yes

>>56355295
Can you please help me out then?

I can't really find any minimal install iso on manjaro site, if you mean removing the packages and cleaning the system after a fresh install that's not really what I was looking for because I could just keep on using other distros that do have a minimal install already.

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>>56355241
You know the answer

>>56355241
What's wrong with Windows?

>>56355373
What is right with Windows?

>>56355020
It's pretty good for something still in alpha.

>>56355390
Games

>>56355417
>>>/v/

>>56355342
Seriously?
https://manjaro.org/get-manjaro/

>>56354070
Ι'd јust like tο interјect fοr a mοment. What yοu're referring tο as Linux, is in fact, GΝU/Linux, οr as Ι've recently taken tο calling it, GΝU plus Linux. Linux is nοt an οperating system untο itself, but rather anοther free cοmpοnent οf a fully functiοning GΝU system made useful by the GΝU cοrelibs, shell utilities and vital system cοmpοnents cοmprising a full OS as defined by ΡOSΙX.

Many cοmputer users run a mοdified versiοn οf the GΝU system every day, withοut realizing it. Τhrοugh a peculiar turn οf events, the versiοn οf GΝU which is widely used tοday is οften called "Linux", and many οf its users are nοt aware that it is basically the GΝU system, develοped by the GΝU Ρrοјect.

Τhere really is a Linux, and these peοple are using it, but it is јust a part οf the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the prοgram in the system that allοcates the machine's resοurces tο the οther prοgrams that yοu run. Τhe kernel is an essential part οf an οperating system, but useless by itself; it can οnly functiοn in the cοntext οf a cοmplete οperating system. Linux is nοrmally used in cοmbinatiοn with the GΝU οperating system: the whοle system is basically GΝU with Linux added, οr GΝU/Linux. All the sο-called "Linux" distributiοns are really distributiοns οf GΝU/Linux.

>>56355435
what about /v/

>>56355451
>Manjaro Minimal Net Edition (16.06.1)
Ok I'm retarded and it does indeed exists.
Thanks anon.

>>56355472
Don't play coy.
It's where manchildren like you belong.

>>56355507
There's no need to be so angry

Does yaourt really source the PKGBUILD before I can edit it, allowing the execution of malicious code?

Looking at the comparison table[1] in the wiki, it says yaourt isn't secure, but I can't seem to find the problem in the referenced source file.

[1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table

What are the practical differences of KDE and xfce? I like the look of KDE more, but is that all there is to it, just the looks of DE.

>>56355455
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.

>>56355570
The thing is, Arch aims to simple, that doesn't include secure. It's simple to install something from the AUR but it doesn't mean that some faggot includes rm -rf /* into his repo.

tl;dr avoid the AUR, if you need it, read the PKGBUILD first

>>56354258
Keyboard shortcut to terminal, install xbacklight, execute xbacklight command?

I don't know anon, sounds spooky. Have you not got buttons on your keyboard associated with brightness?

>Want to make a linux duelboot for my new pc when I get the time to build it
>Read on the wiki that /g/ hates/hated ubuntu

Is this true? You guys don't like it?

>>56355683
I'm not asking if the AUR is secure. This is specifically about yaourt.

The comparison in the wiki says yaourt executes the PKGBUILD before it prompts you to read it.
I just want to know if that's true and maybe why they haven't changed it.

>>56355716
It actually is good and usable out of the box so ofc. /g/ hates it.

>>56355716
It's good and usable from a pragmatic standpoint

From a philosophical stand point, it's garbage

>>56355629
Never used KDE but each come with their own suite of applications, such as the panel, terminal, power manager, screensaver etc.

They use different window managers which determine the placement of windows. Don't know what KDE uses but xfce uses xfwm which is garbage. Luckily you can change it.

Try KDE. It's very easy to change DE.

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Currently installing arch on my new baby
got a 256GB NVMe SSD + 2TB HDD with 16GB of RAM

Is pic related a good partioning scheme?
also, what partition/label type should i choose?
SSD has 238.5 / 256GB available.

I heard that NTFS disks gigashit themselves if I use them from operating system like Linux

Y/N?

I have two 8tbs that are full of files that i'd like to use but I don't want to break the disks

>>56356077
Any specific reason why you're using btrfs?

>>56356077
>partitioning
>btrfs
... why?

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>>56355521
Get the fuck off my board.

>>56356077
UUID is the recommended label type.

>The advantage of using the UUID is that it is independent from the actual device number the operating system gives your hard disk. Image you add another hard disk to the system, and for some reason the OS decides that your old disk is now sdb instead of sba. Your boot process would be screwed up if fstab would point to the device name. However, in case of the UUIDs, it would be fine.

To be able to ssh -X do i actually have to have some sort of X server running on my remote linux machine?

>>56356077
Using that image as example

if I try installing Linux again and I have UEFI mobo

does the boot partition in that image need to be actually '/boot/efi'

Sry for dumb question I'm dotard

Just installed Korora XFCE, surprised I don't read more about it on here, such a pleasant experience thus far as opposed to fedora XFCE

>>56356169
No.

>>56356169
Depends on your bootloader I think. Some expect it to be /boot/efi.

>>56356121
>>56356137
dont have a reason desu
Would ext4 be better for all partitions?

>>56356148
in cfdisk it comes up with gpt, dos, sgi and sun.
can barely find anything about the last three

im a total noob in linux

>>56356218
If you're not using any btrfs related feature, stick to ext4.

>>56356173
What advantages does it have?

>>56356218
>in cfdisk it comes up with gpt, dos, sgi and sun.
Oh, that was a misunderstanding then. I thought you were talking about the labels in fstab.
You should use gpt.

>>56356218
use gpt unless you have a reason not to
dos is more supported (sometimes known as "mbr"), but has some limitations (such as 4 "primary" partitions max)

using btrfs is fine, but btrfs supports subvolumes, which are like thin-provisioned partitions
why use partitions when you can use more flexible subvolumes?

>>56356236
>>56356253
thanks. also is it possible to decrease the /home later on and add a second windows vm partition in case I need more in the future?

>>56356292
Only with lvm partitions I think. Not sure though.

>>56356216
GRUB

>>56356401
Grub supports both ;)

>>56356415
I ran into issues last time and I had to disable UEFI and put my motherboard to legacy mode for it. I guess I did something wrong that I can't figure out.

I used Rufus to make a bootable installation from USB stick. That probably has something to do with it?

>>56356450
What's your problem exactly? Just switch back to UEFI mode and disable CSM. Then boot from the USB stick.

>>56356485
i can't get it working in UEFI

>>56356514
Does that mean you can't boot from the USB drive?

Are there any error messages? Are you using an UEFI image? Have you configured your boot order correctly?

Since yesterday I can't open 4chan, Youtube and some other sites on the Midori browser. They keep loading forever. I don't remember doing anything that could've caused it. Can anybody help? I'm using Opera now but I really prefer Midori.

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>>56356555
If my motherboard is in UEFI mode and I try to boot from USB (boot order correct, made with RUFUS) I just get blinking underscore and some errors after 5-20 minutes.

If I disable CSM it goes to legacy mode and then everything works - but I've read installing Xubuntu would be possible with UEFI? Since GRUB supports it?

>UEFI image.
Not sure, I used 64-bit system image from xubuntu's official website.

I'm trying to decide between using Xubuntu and Antergos, but how much of a difference is there really between different distros for day to day use? 90% of what you actually interact with is the DE anyways

>>56356582
Midori is bad. I'm not surprised it's not working for you.

>>56356624
>If my motherboard is in UEFI mode and I try to boot from USB (boot order correct, made with RUFUS) I just get blinking underscore and some errors after 5-20 minutes.
Sorry, no idea what's going on there.

>installing Xubuntu would be possible with UEFI? Since GRUB supports it?
Yes, that should absolutely be possible

>>56356672
If you can't install arch, just go for ubuntu. Don't expect anyone to help you if you install antergos.

Before you call me an elitist archfag, I use Fedora.

>>56356726
>Don't expect anyone to help you if you install antergos
Not him, but why?

>>56356624
Have you tried googling the error messages? I just skimmed over some of the results and it looks like it has to do with your graphics card.

>>56356759
At time when I was installing I just pussied out and went legacy

the graphics card is 980Ti Hybrid from EVGA.
[spoiler]Works without any issue in Windows please don't shoot me[/spoiler]

>>56356777
Googling a bit, some people recommend trying to update motherboard firmware, I'll try checking if there are new updates to mine

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So I installed Ubuntu-MATE on my Y700 'gaymen' laptop but I have a few issues:
1. Nvidia driver is buggy.
2. Subwoofer doesn't work.
3. W8.1 on virtual machine sucks balls.

I've decided to dual-boot instead - how do you recommend I split my 250GB SSD (I don't need a swap partition)/.

>>56356852
>laptop has a subwoofer
I'm sorry but WHAT

>>56353492
1 -> Unstable is nearly upstream, and all the security is handled by the package maintainers, not by Debian. Testing is slightly behind Unstable in order to have less critical bugs, but this also delays the security updates for Testing, so it's a trade-off.

2 -> https://wiki.debian.org/InstallFAQ#Q._How_do_I_install_.22unstable.22_.28.22sid.22.29.3F (install minimal stable and then upgrade to testing/unstable

3 -> Unstable: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#Does_sid_have_security_updates.3F
Testing: https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

4 -> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#What.27s_the_current_status_of_Unstable.3F

5 -> Use the netinstall iso and deselect all DEs. An annoyance I have is needing to manually configure wifi after booting up. I wish it just remembered the settings from the installer. Anyone have any advise regarding this (and not "use ethernet")?

As good as Debian is, it does take some extra work to set up and maintain Testing/Unstable.

>>56356852
have y700 too
subwoofer won't work for now, sorry mate
nvidia driver works for me
dual boot windows not vm

>>56356852
I had screen tearing with 980Ti when I tried Xubuntu and 2 sets of drivers (both drivers visible in your pic)

It'd glitch and tear even when moving folders on the screen. My father's laptop with Xubuntu and 970M no issues.

Puzzles me.

>>56356852
50/50

Also it's not the nvidia driver it's the fact we have a hardware mux that fucks it up.
Most laptops just use optimus we have a hardware mux so you're mostly running everything off the integrated graphics.
I should know I have the same laptop.

>Tfw want to try out Arch but don't want to be associated with The Arch Way™ autists

Jerking off over how your installer doesn't have a GUI is literally nothing but something to stroke your epeen to. I'll probably stick to Ubuntu because that's the only distro that's mainly being populated by normies and not autists.

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>>56356912
How did you configure your partitions? I only have 250GB to play with, so I'm considering how to split them.

>>56356866
Pic related.

>>56356951
It doesn't switch smartly between the iGPU and dGPU, I have to do it manually and re-log every time. My battery goes into the trash when I use the nVidia.

>>56357050
haha fucking laptop with a subwoofer

holy shit I've seen it all lads

Why arch dont have some simple install script or something? I want to try it but i did something wrong. Whith mint install was way quicker.

>>56357106
arch-anywhere

>>56353502
Gentoo

>>56357106
Arch architect

Say I want to convert a specific bit of an .mkv to a .webm, how can I do that?

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>>56353492
To elaborate on the pros/cons of each branch of Debian:

- Stable packages are consistent and well-behaved because they're old and have gone through years/steps of rigorous testing. The Debian security team focuses primarily on this branch.

- Unstable packages are about as new as can be, so bugs are more likely, but they also get quickly fixed. The packages are as secure and stable as their own maintainers keep them. Debian's security team only uploads very important updates if maintainers are inactive.

- Testing packages are from Unstable (so slightly behind), and have gone through a small checklist to ensure that they live up to Debian's standards for the future Stable release. Testing can be considered the least secure, because it's behind Unstable, it doesn't get security updates from package managers, and Debian's security team focuses on making sure Stable is secure.

>>56357122
>>56357147
but these are complete different distros, why there is no easy script to just make installation easier?

>>56357050
As I said here >>56356972
You actually need to install the bumblebee driver.
It works kinda.

>>56356972
>50/50

I thought of this, but isn't it better to have something like a 50GB shared partition for documents?

>>56357186
I'm currently triple booting( off a single hard drive, with one extra for storage) and so long as you don't have that stupid windows feature called hybrid sleep you can access you NTFS partition easy.

>>56357179
>but these are complete different distros
No, they aren't distros, they're separate installers for Arch.
>why there is no easy script to just make installation easier?
Architect and Arch-Anywhere are LITERALLY install scripts for Arch. They automate the already dead-easy task of installing Arch.

The entire point of Arch is to do-it-yourself and build your system from the ground up, so I don't really know why you want it all done for you so badly. Just install Ubuntu if you want your hand held so badly.

why the fuck does ubuntu still have upstart installed and services are managed by sysvinit service utility? what the fuck?

>>56357227
I dont mint building system but basic stuff could be installed in more easier way. The whole base (there is not much to change at the installation process than basic stuff right?) could be bit easier. I followed some guide and even thoug i did everything as it said i couldnt boot a system.

>>56357211
Thanks, senpai.

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When using qbittorrent, I get frequent "system lags"/stutters when speeds exceed 50-100+ mb/s.

I never experienced this under Windows, where I also use qbittorrent, but I'm still guessing it's a libtorrent and/or disk cache issue.
Can anyone help with concrete settings I should use?

If it matters, the drive is just a huge NTFS partition because I use it on different systems.

>>56357348
Maybe the NTFS disk is fragmented to all hell and back?

>>56357300
>I dont mint building system but basic stuff could be installed in more easier way.
Well, that's why Architect and Arch-Anywhere exist... Have you even tried them? I think thye're pretty much exactly what you want.
>there is not much to change at the installation process than basic stuff right?
Yeah, there isn't much to change, but some people (most Arch users) are more comfortable using a terminal to do everything, including installing/configuring their base system.
>I followed some guide and even thoug i did everything as it said i couldnt boot a system.
If it wasn't this page: (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide) then it was probably wrong.

>>56357363
I doubt it, as I regularly check for that, and don't experience the same issue on Windows. But next time I'm on Windows, I'll check it out anyway, thanks.

>>56357402
it was not this page because this one talks too much about stuff instead of being more minimalistic and straight related to base installation

I you make a theme, put it on github, and don't put at least one screenshot. Congratulations you are a retard.

>>56355241
If you have switchable graphics manjaro has it set up out of the box

My Private Internet Access VPN is connecting, but when active there is no internet connection, no web pages load and dnf times out. I am using Fedora 24, i just upgraded from 23 where it was all working fine.

Does anyone know what I could be doing wrong? or has anyone experience this problem too?

>>56356251
Not that guy but Korora is basically hardened Fedora that comes pre riced and with multimedia codecs enabled

>>56357348
>>56357363
>Why is qStalledmeme stalling my whole system?
>It must be NTFS! Fucking Microsoft again!

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>>56357491
>it was not this page because this one talks too much about stuff instead of being more minimalistic and straight related to base installation
... That's the official installation guide for Arch. That is the definitive way to do it. It isn't incredibly complex or verbose, it simply tells you what to do. All you do is read and follow along. Again, I think Architect or Arch-Anywhere are probably exactly what you're looking for. But at this point, I don't think you're the type of person who should use Arch. It sounds like you fell for how nice their principles of "simplicity, modernity, etc" sound, but you don't really understand that it isn't all that simple.

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>>56356159
t-thanks

How do i protect my gameserver from ddos?
I'm 23h/24 ddosed

Is there even any major difference between Arch-anywhere and Arch Architect?

>>56357778
it is impossible, ddos cannot be blocked the packet will still arrive at your sever before it gets dropped
the only way is to use VPN to hide behind, since VPN servers have much bigger bandwidth than the ddossers can clog

>>56357778
Just do a range block on the ip's that are fucing you up famalam

>>56357996
how do i do that?
i would like to allow access to only 3 or 4 countries

How do I increase mpv's max volume?
An anon here gave me some config lines a while back but I couldnt find where to put them

>>56358062
you can't "block" a ddos you shitstick, stop listening to retards
you can only put another machine between you and it

Having difficulties mounting /home to my HDD.
Currently have /boot, /swap and /root on my SSD, but whenever I try to mount /home to my HDD it says "Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error."

how do I fix this peeps?

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I'm on a new install of antergos with gnome.
How would I go about removing the title bar of a window when it's maximized?
Pic related.

>>56358221
You mount a drive to a directory, not the other way around.

>>56358221
post mount command you used

>>56358258
trying to mount ssd to /home

>>56358289
>mkdir -p /mnt/home
>mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/home

it actually comes up with a different error now
>"zsh: permission denied: /dev/sda1"

Hey people who use Devuan, can you clarify whether or not there's a non-free/contrib for Devuan? I would assume so, but it isn't clarified anywhere on their site, and there's not a "non-free" version of the installer that I can find either.

>>56358347
nvm, typo. Get the same "wrong fs type (...)" error again

>>56358347
>>56358388
post outputs of;

sudo mount -v  /dev/sda1 /mnt/home

and

sudo blkid /dev/sda1

>set up a SSH server on CentOS
>ever since my first login the RAM use is 200MB on idle

What am I doing wrong?

>>56358549
make your password shorter so it doesn't take up 200mb

>>56358486
first one gives me the same "wrong fs type (...)" error and second one gives me the uuid "67f1ce11-cce9-451f-a0b9-8f88afb48722"

>>56358549
Also, wanted to add that the excessive RAM use persists even after I exit the SSH session.

>>56358590
i'm pretty sure that isn't the entire output of either

>>56358167
>You can't block ip's

Looks like somone needs to learn how ACL's and firewalls work.

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>>56358614

>>56358675
are you literally retarded or do you have zero idea how ddos works?

>>56358701
ssds are almost always problematic to mount, my hdd works fine but my ssd does not, i don't know why, to the system they all look the same, the hw is separated from the os by the firmware anyway

>>56358714
>a bunch of russian ips are are ddosing your server
>block all major russian ip blocks

4chan has ip blocked entire countries before you know

>>56358774
again, look up what DDOS is, firewall is useless

>>56354584

Window list? Slim? Be more specific.

>>56358745
It's weird because mounting stuf to /dev/nvme0n1 is no problem, but whenever I change to /dev/sda1 I get errors. The partition also shows up in lsblk /dev/sda

>>56358701
then there's your problem, sda1 isn't formatted
mount detects nothing, and blkid lists no type/volume uuid/label

also post "file -s /dev/sda1"

>>56358811
>Massive amounts of packets incoming
>Router/Modem has enough processing power to parce them all
>They just slow down the server
>Make an ACL/Firewall rule to block all incoming connections from IP Range A to B
>Server now can handle the trafic

That hard.

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>>56358811
I know what a DDOS attack is and I know how you can mitigate them. I also know 4chan blocks many ISPs and IP blocks (pic related) because of spam and DDOS attacks and I also know that most important internet-facing servers do things such as rate limiting by IP block to mitigate standard DDOS attacks.

Is MATE-GTK3 stable enough for day-to-day use, or is there some weird bug I never encountered on my desktop?

I kinda miss using it since I'm away from home. it just looks so much better than the standard MATE, but I'm not sure if I should just switch or wait for it to integrate into the MATE package.

>>56358924
>>56358975
your server needs to download the packet and at least do a little bit of processing to even get as far as determining if it should be 'blocked' (actually dropped), if the attacker sends enough data to saturate your servers' connection, you slow down, no matter what kind of software configuration you have

>>56358895
fuck me, forgot to format indeed
formatted with ext4 and now it mounted

I have one more partition open which I plan to use for a windows VM in the coming weeks. can i just keep it unmounted and mount it later?

>>56359050
>Server
>Software
Are you retarded?
Do you even fucking know what an ACL is and how it works?

New thread -> >>56359076
>>56359076 <- New thread
New thread -> >>56359076
>>56359076 <- New thread

>>56359061
>I have one more partition open which I plan to use for a windows VM in the coming weeks. can i just keep it unmounted and mount it later?
yea

>>56359050
We're talking about a random guy's gameserver here... what you're talking about is massive and very costly DDOS attacks.

>>56359095
all the love for you babe

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bought computer with windows 8 about a year ago, it was a pain in the ass but managed to install Elementary OS, got grub working and all that shit, got tired of Elementarys bugs to installed Mint 17.2 over Elementary

dont know what i did but i cant boot up into window anymore
i already ran boot repair ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair) and it achieved noting

>>56357718
I watched short vid on youtube where few things where showed and explained and i managed to install arch without problems

Now im wondering what desktop enviroment and window manager should i get. I dont know much but want something light and minimalistic. Any suggestions?

I'm building a new PC next week and thinking of dual booting Arch alongside Windows 10. Would that be too hard for someone who's a complete noob to Linux?

>>56360536
yes

>>56360553
thx

so i was on my dual-booted windows today clearing out hard drive space

when i went on the web browser, i noticed that scrolling was so much more smooth on windows firefox than on arch firefox

my linux boot is with kde/openbox

i was wondering if i could achieve the same

unfortunately i cant really demonstrate it because i have a 144hz monitor and gifs record at a shitty 20 fps

Just so you know, WoW doesn't work with Wayland. The view just spins around and around and around.

I run Xubuntu im trying to find a WM any advice

>>56361461
Maybe you have smooth scrolling disabled on arch?

Just a thought.

Upvote me and give me a handjob.

>>56361688
Openbox is a good starter WM for anybody.

>>56361795
i dont i have it enabled

it just feels like its not as smooth as it is on windows

im thinking it might be the comp manager (i have compton and it runs shitty with screen tearing)

>>56361836
Switch to gnome and see.

>>56362110
i dont like the overall look of gnome

looks like something a windows 8 user would be proud of

is there a way to disable the "mac and windows" look and make it like a regular desktop?

>>56362279
You can change everything with gnome extensions. That's what I do. You can change the thingy to a dock, like mac, or you can get rid of itr completely untill you press the win key. Whatever you want.

Is GNU/Linux COMMUNIST???????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEbVBZIrAE IS THIS THE THEMESONG OF GNU/LINUX?

OMG. LOL