/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Are you running wayland, /g/?

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Please. Contain your shitposting and help people for once, guys. Don't reply to bait.

Can two people connect to a public Mumble server and have a private conversation?

>>56339638
>Are you running wayland, /g/?
Not sure, /g/, there's virtually nothing but GNOME 3.20 that can run in Wayland.
I want i3 Wayland Edition or something.

What's KDE's status on Wayland anyway?

>>56339632
>those shoes
>those pants
>that smile
He was pretty sexy for an autist

>>56339638
never
wayland sucks

>>56339632
Is that a shopped image or is that actually him? I can't tell.

>>56339738
He's not that skinny

So I need a Linux Distro that's easy to use, and riceable/customizable. Someone pick one for me.

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>>56339738
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.

>>56339773
But he looks younger there, and I've seen pictures of him when he was younger and he was skinny.

>>56339779
Sorry, Mr. Stallman

>>56339776
Arch Linux

>inb4 Arch isn't easy
Yes it is

>>56339776
Some options for ya.

>The
>One
>I
>Am
>Using

:)

>>56339796
Wrong. it's the one I'm using. Get your answer right, newfriend

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How the fuck do I choose a distro?

>>56339793
Valid point

>>56339812
You use the one I am using. Very simple.

>>56339776
Every distro is riceable, there is no such thing like a distro for ricing.

Is Ubuntu GNOME a good choice? Or should I get something else
>don't say *too or arch

>>56339834
I already answered. It's the one I'm using.

>>56339834
Why not arch? Serious question?

>>56339834
What's so bad about gentoo/funtoo and arch?

>>56339812
you don't

install gentoo

>>56339851
Why not the one I'm using? Serious question.

>>56339638

I gave it a spin with GNOME 3.20 and it was beautiful just for the fact that resizing windows was so smooth and there was no tearing or graphical glitches.

Openbox-like compositor for Wayland, when?!

I just tried Linux-Libre, everything works like a charm, except for the WIFI. Seems there isn't the right module or something. Do I need to go back to vanilla Linux or is there a way to get my WIFI working?

>>56339867
>>56339848
>>56339825
>>56339807
This isn't as funny or witty as you think it is.

>>56339632
>starting a new thread before the previous one isn't even at the bump limit

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>>56339855
>>56339856
What's so bad about the one I'm using?
Install the one I'm using.

>>56339899
No need for another bait thread. kys

who /the one I'm using/ here

>>56339893
Only because you're not using the one I'm using.

>>56339912
>>56339901
It's funny the first time, but now it's just getting old. You can stop now.

>>56339851
>>56339855

I don't want Gentoo or Arch because i'm not that good at using GNU/Linux yet and wanna just take a spin and see if I can fully switch from Botnetdows.

>>56339912
The one I'm using master race.

>>56339915
I'll take a repeated joke over distro wars any day of the year

>>56339920
You don't need to be good at Linux to use Arch, just download Antergos and use sudo pacman -s instead of sudo apt-get install

Wayland isn't shit per se. Its rendering model is fine, yes, you loose 'Network transparency' but true Network transparency isn't relevant and didn't exist for a long time anyway, what matter sis whether or not you can do it over the network. Which you can.

What otherwise makes it shit is that in true Freedesktop fashion they once again managed to think in 'use cases' rather than simply providing something that is low level and generic enough to be used as a building block to implement whatever you want more or less, like what X11 has done. xdg-shell, which is a gimped aequivalent of EWMH actually requires the server to implement it in Wayland as some protocol extension whereas EWMH is just built upon the tools X11 provides. The Wayland core protocol by design is gimped as fuck and can't deliver more than powering a facebook machine, you have your windows which have applications in it, that's fucking it, any 'special windows' like toolbars or popups or application launchers can't be implemented in terms of it, which X11 does just fine.

The most infuriating b.s. is that they phrase gimping shit as 'security'. Wayland did not implement the same thing more securely, it just omitted functionality. It's 'more secure' in the same way that a computer which has no internet is 'more secure' than a computer with Telnet rather than what SSH does which is implementing the same functionality in a more secure manner, they just omitted it.

The end result is that in Wayland at the moment you're forced to use a 'desktop environment' and the philosophy of using a lot of standalone tools like a standalone window manager, combine it with a standalone compositing manager, a standalone hotkey daemon and what-not is dead, because Wayland omits the protocols necessary for those things to communicate with each other so they become internal properties of the compositor and therefore not portable.

(cont.)

>>56339915
>the first time
>It's the first time you've seen "the one I'm using"

Your new is showing. It's the default response to avoid shitposting over which distro best distro.

>>56339920
Also, if something breaks in Arch, is it easier to fix then if something breaks in Gentoo? Or is it more controlled?

>>56339941
>(cont.)
stop

>>56339920
The idea that people have about a "beginner distro" is really kind of silly. There's no such thing honestly.

>>56339941
And yes, Sway on Wayland is a desktop environment, it comes with its own hotkey daemon, screenshot tool, toolbar and what not and you cannot exchange these things for standalone tools that provide similar functionality but in a way you like more, itś a locked down fucking prison which is a shame because as said, the rendering model is a lot more sane in this day and age.

And if they didn't think of your use case then you are completely out of luck.

It's garbage befitting of Freedesktop like the usual garbage that Freedesktop tends to generate.

And you know what the most hilarious part is, this is from Freedesktop's own mission statement:

>Users should have a maximum amount of choice in selecting the applications they wish to run. Users should not be limited to a certain subset of applications; ideally, even the components of the desktop environment (window manager, panel, file manager, etc.) would be interchangeable.

Lofty ideals, and maybe they believed that when they first started, but all their members have not believed that in a long time, especially fucking GNOME who glories in it and revels in it with William Jon McCann oozing litres of vaginal fluids at the mere thought of having another way to further limit what users can control about their own system.

>>56339936
Is Antergos better than Manjaro?

>>56339965
STOP

>>56339943
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>56339966
Antergos is a installer that rebrands Arch, Manjaro is a distro on its own, based on Arch.

>>56339966
the one I'm using is better

>>56339988
Oh, okay. Well I guess i'll go with Antergos for now then.

>>56339966
Don't use antegros. If you want an installer for arch just use arch-anywhere.

>>56339999
Quads confirmed.

>>56339966
Antergos is closer to Arch than Manjaro and is more bleeding edge, can't say which is better or worse.

>>56339959
There is such a thing, honestly. It's the reason people with common sense and a basic grasp on how the majority of newbies coming from Windows recommend distros such as Ubuntu flavors, openSUSE, Fedora, Manjaro, or (if you don't mind stepping up a notch in tinkering) Debian. That's why people with common sense don't direct newbies to Arch or Gentoo.

>>56340005
Please, don't get meme'd.

>>56339999
please die but checked

>>56340010
Alright then

>Antergos
broken arch installer
>Manjaro
broken arch fork
>the one I'm using
The best. Just the best

>>56340024
>>56339959
>>56340005

*on how the majority of newbies coming from Windows think

And yes, you might try Arch and it might be awesome for you and you might love it, but at the very least, if you don't like it, don't let that sour your impression of Linux in general.

That's all I wanted to say

>>56337314
Anyone?

>>56340010
Seriously. Installing Arch takes 10 minutes by running 10 commands. Even a beginner can copy paste those commands blindly, which was proven a million times in these threads. That said, Arch is a meme. Devs don't care about the users, the Arch way is a meme, kernel comes with all modules enabled, repos are bloated. People think it's 1337 to run Arch because it has no installer, that's why it's so popular. There is no good reason to use Arch.
Install Gentoo.

>>56340034
>>56339851

>People evangelize Arch, a distribution that is completely anti-user, and which is basically a dictatorship on the whims of the devs, giving no choice and extra bloat.
>People advertise memes about Arch being lighter, more customizable, more minimal, modular

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

Please don't do this. If you're gonna advertise Arch, at least be honest.

So I updated my Debian install today. And now I have a gray transparent band of about an inch width in the left side of screen running all the way from top to bottom, like an overlay over desktop. At first I thought Compton fucked up and killed it. Nope. What's happening?

Also screenshot is worthless because screenshot doesn't show the overlay. I don't have a camera or phone atm. I am pretty sure my screen is not defective because grub menu is just fine. No overlays there. I am sure that the problem lies within my DE which is xfce or something.

Pls halp.

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NO
STOP
FULL STOP

LET'S NOT GO DOWN THIS ROAD AGAIN FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME.

>>56340024
Honestly if someone doesn't want to put in the effort to learn about their distro, and they're looking for something like Ubuntu or mint because it just werks then they really shouldn't be looking at Linux at all.

Just my opinion. I don't mean to offend any newcomers here.

>>56340085
xfce is a DE which is notorious for bugs
I don't use it so I can help you, but I hope someone else chimes in. Good luck anon

>>56340093
>Mint
At least the lesser evil: Ubuntu. Mint is literally a hacked together pile of shit.

>bloated repos

>>56340110
*can't, sorry

>>56340093
Well, that's alright that that's your opinion. I just happen to think it's harmful to the growth of the Linux community in general if we're so close minded and construct this high bar for entrance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2efSysPvy8

>>56340120
I never said it wasn't

>>56340110
>>56340130
Thanks anon. Hope so.

>>56339834
OP here.
I just need a intermediate distribution that can be dual bootable with Windows 10. Please.

>>56340185
the one I'm using

>>56340185
>intermediate distro
What is that? What do you mean?

>>56340185
Every distro that I know of can be dualbooted with Windows 10.

You haven't stated what you're gonna use it for, but I asume just regular home desktop use.

If you're a pragmatic user, Ubuntu is a good choice if you just want it to work without learning much. Any flavor you prefer (GNOME) is one.

If you care about the philosophy behind distros, then Ubuntu is not a god choice. Better to go upstream, and use Debian instead. It's not hard to use, plenty of documentation, and it's a pretty solid distro with three branches: Stable, Testing, and Sid. If you decide to use Debian, know that it might take just a tad more legwork and learning than in Ubuntu, but it might be worth it if you care about the ideological side of things. If you go down that road, know that the best way is to burn a netinstall ISO (with non-free firmware included if you want convenience during install) to a USB, boot from it. During install it even asks you what DE you want (default is GNOME, uncheck "Debian DE" if you don't want GNOME). When install is done, you will have Stable. Now move to Testing branch once it is installed (if it's for desktop use). And there ya go.

But again: this is only worth doing if you care about the philosophical/ideological side of things. If you don't give a flying fuck, then maybe you can save yourself the hassle by using Ubuntu GNOME.

>>56340252
*Any flavor you prefer (Ubuntu GNOME is one, they just change the default DE)
*If you care about the philosophy, then Ubuntu is not a good choice

Sorry, typos are going crazy today for me

>>56340252
Alright, thanks. Yes, desktop use. I just want to get into Linux and see if after I can switch from Windows 10.

>>56340281
Also with Ubuntu, should I get the LTS or the regular version?

>>56339667
found this;
http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Mumbleguide/English#Whisper
not certain if it's secure though. it's not hard to run your own mumble server

what some lightweight, easy, stable distro?

>>56340281
What do you use on win10?

>>56340301
Photoshop, Sony Movie Studio Platinum (it's like Sony Vegas but a bit less complicated), general Windows software.

>>56340292
That's up to you. LTS is if you don't want to reinstall it until much later down the line. Regular version is if you don't mind updating your whole OS to a new version every year or so.

>>56340297
READ. ABOVE.
It gets irritating to answer the same questions every single thread, multiple times.

>>56340328
Stick with Windows

Could some kind anons extend this list?

>Did you fell for the memes? Make the test:

>Did you fell for the Linux Mint just werks meme?
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-website-hacked-malicious-backdoor-version/
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/02/linux-mint-hit-by-malware-infection-on-its-website-and-forum-after-hack-attack/
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

>Did you fell for The Arch Way meme?
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>Did you fell for the Manjaro is insecure and holds back packages meme?
https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate_update/
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2bxt4p/debunking_manjaro_myths_las_322/

>Dis you fell for the Debian has only outdated packages meme?
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/

>>56339686
>I want i3 Wayland Edition
http://swaywm.org/

>>56340369
nice meme

>>56340369
>Did you fell
>Make the test
Basic english, familia. You don't conjugate a double past tense. It's "Did you fall". And you *do* a test, you don't *make* it, unless you're actually writing the questions. Also, use quotation marks for phrases inside a sentence.

>>56340351
>>56340369
I used mint and i would like to use something different now. But something as light as mint.

>>56340411
Thanks.

>>56340424
Try Debian. Next question.

>>56340369
>https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

I don't see anything wrong with this

>>56340462
That's good. And I agree, the title the guy you quoted it from put on it is misleading.

I feel that that mail in particular should be publicized, not for generating bad press for Arch, but for generating HONEST press about Arch. I absolutely hate people who don't know what the hell they're talking about recommending a distro based on memes and hearsay. If you're gonna recommend a distro, then recommend it based on what it actually is and how it is actually developed.

If Arch devs make these decisions and pave the way for Arch development this way, then that's a-okay. And it's important to make it clear how they plan to run things, so that people can decide whether they wanna use it or not based on that.

If you feel that's fine, then power to you.

But what is not good is for that information to be hidden away and for people to not realize how the distro actually works and how it's ran and managed.

I just like bleeding edge, is there any other distro that does it better than Arch

>>56340462
>>56340515
(cont'd)
Thus the importance of variety of philosophies in the Linux world. If you like how the Arch devs handle things, awesome. If you prefer how Debian devs handle things, then that's awesome too. The cool thing is that you can actually pick and choose from the vast number of projects to see whose ideology you agree with the most.

>>56340384
Nice.

>>56340517
DEFINE BETTER
PLEASE STOP USING AMBIGUOUS TERMS SUCH AS "EASY" "INTERMEDIATE" "BETTER". Define what you mean.

>>56340517
Not really. But yes.

>>56340517
gentoo

>>56340556
Being more bleeding edge, dipshit

>>56340517
Other bleeding distros:
Debian Sid, Fedora

>>56340517
the one I'm using

>>56340572
More bleeding edge or bleeding edge as well? If the former then no there isn't really.

>>56340572
LFS, and write your own software. Then you'll be at the most bleeding of bleeding edges all the time. You'll be so bloody you won't believe it.

>>56340369
>https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/

>Please note that security updates for "unstable" distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, "unstable" does not get security updates in a timely manner.

Uh-ow.

>>56340515
I just like that arch is rolling release with up to date packages. I also like the AUR. I'm really accustomed to using it so I've never felt there need to try something else like Gentoo or whatever.

>>56340649
>rolling
What's wrong with other rolling distros?
>the AUR
Whats wrong with git clone; make?

>>56340369
>>Did you fell for the Manjaro is insecure and holds back packages meme?
Not these, but I fell for the "turn back your system clock to fix problems" meme.

>>56340714
Well, agreed, that was a horrible idea.

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>>56339632

>>56340694
Did you read the second part of my comment?

>>56340714
>>56340733
Anyone got the archive link?

>>56339965
>>56339941

30 years ago, he would be saying the same about X.

>>56340043

If you have to ask: no. Chances are you're not even using 5% of Bash's functionality. Neither are the other pretentious idiots who switch to zsh or similar. They do it because they think those fancy prompts are zsh exclusive or autocompletion.

>>56339812
Literally start anywhere. If it doesn't work out for you, try a different one. Also, you should be willing to learn, and to google basic problems with any distro.

If you ask me, I'm open for systemd, wayland and other new things. I'm not the one who is afraid for changes and holds on old ideas and luckily nobody is forced to use new programs, if they fail, nobody will use them anyway.

>>56340838
The autocompletion and globbing is actually far superior to bash's though.

>>56340864
Not really. Bash has extended globbing and autocompletition, it just isn't enabled by default.

>>56340860
Thanks for sharing.

>>56340884
No problem.

Which distro is quite small, lightweight and has basic stuff so after installation i could add/replace additional packages for my need? I feel like most distributions are just bigger separate things.

>>56340881
The autocompletion is nothing like that of zsh, I don't know how bash users can even attempt to posit this.

>>56340901
Every distro that provides a netinstall.

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To the magnificient bastard that helped me a few days ago by suggesting a simple xrandr script to be able to play this game on Wine without issues when alt-tabbing, thank you.

People like you are why /fglt/ is still worth something.

>>56340838
That's what I thought. Thanks for replying.

>>56340912
>>56340881
>>56340864
>what's the best shell?
>the one I'm using

That said, I agree that zsh has a better autocompletition (I tried it), but tbqh, it's not a killer feature for me to switch since in 99% of situations I know the command I want to run anyway. (Why do I need an autocompletition for kill?)

>>56339700
>was
He is!

>>56341104
because you don't know the process id? bash babbies..

>>56341104
I don't need to know it since I know how to use the commandline. If I want to kill a program I use pkill or killall.

>>56341161
Wrong quote, meant to reply to: >>56341144

>>56340626
Instead it gets updates all the time and security fixes will arrive just as fast as in stable.

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>arch vs debian

>wayland vs x

>zsh vs bash

What's next?

>>56341251
linux vs gnu

which distributions dont use systemd?

>>56341251
CLI text editors

Vim is best

>>56341289
Void, Manjaro, Gentoo, Devuan, ...

>>56341300
Did you (or anyone) try NeoVim?

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>>56341300
>using a text editor in a CLI
>not the superior CLI in a text editor

>>56341251
Debian, wayland, it doesn't matter as long as it is sh compatible

>>56341300
This. Using it since years and still learn new things everyday. Want to count up/down numbers? CTRL+a/CTRL+x

>>56341379
That's pretty cool. Thanks.

>>56341350
The next logical step is to run vim from the command line within geany.

I wanted to try arch in virtualbox but i got problems.
>VT-x is disabled in the BIOS for all CPU modes (VERR_VMX_MSR_ALL_VMX_DISABLED).
I did not find this option in bios. What can i do?

>>56341251

GNU parallel vs moreutils parallel

>>56341641

... which is what he did in that screenshot.

>>56342088
How does parallel even work, can you give me a basic example? I dont get these ::: syntax crap.

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I want a slimmer theme for GNOME 3, especially title bars. And icons in Evolution and Transmission are massive, haven't figured out how to change them. Please help. I'm total n00b
1) how do I install themes
2) where do I find them
3) do I need command line?

Otherwise this is excellent.

>>56341983
anyone know what to do?

>>56342130

To be honest, I don't know. I looked into it trying to improve my simple music conversion Bash script, but eventually gave up. I can deal with converting only 1 track at a time. Hey, now I have the other core available for other things ,right?

>>56342275
You have an option about virtualization in your bios. Look closely.

is moving to the atergos from mint a good choice? im developer with just a bit linux knowledge

>>56342604
Install arch or install something else. Antergos is a meme.

How the hell do i set my keyboard layout to danish? I'm using i3 on Arch as my first Linux distro (inb4 use Ubuntu), and i can't figure out how to set my layout to danish.

>>56342690

setxkbmap dk

or something like that.

>>56342690
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_Xorg

>>56342704
With this i get "Cannot open display " default display""

>>56342721
Before i run startx the layout is danish but as soon as i enter i3 it changes

>>56342752
Looks like you set it for the console then https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_console

>>56342752
In a terminal

env |& grep -i display

and paste us the output

Alright fambruhghinis, time to install Antergos on my laptop, I've only used Xubuntu before. Wish me luck

>>56342778
Display=:0

>>56342847
Oh I get it. You're the one trying to troll /flt/ with trivial things.

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>>56342891
What, lmao? I was actually not trying to troll anyone, I genuinely don't how to set my keyboard layout to danish system wide.

>>56342660
Hard to admit but i got problems setting up internet connection in the install process

What are the differences between using Arch-anywhere and Antergos?

>>56342944
Plug in an Ethernet cable.

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>>56342288
You can abuse xargs to do things parallel.
As example: cmd | xargs -n 1 -P 10
... for 10 processes at once.

Anon@TheOneImUsing:~$ seq 20 | xargs -n 1 -P 10
6
5
8
4
2
9
10
7
3
13
14
1
12
11
18
15
16
17
19
20

Happy hacking.

>>56342958
Antegros is arch rebranded as another "distro"

Arch-anywhere is just an install script for arch Linux

>>56342962
Im worried i might have problems with wireles network. Even though i got x220 which should not make any trouble

>>56342990
You set up wifi after installation.

Plug in an Ethernet cable

>>56342917
No no. I recognize you. Don't try to fool me.

What is the best Chess software for GNU/Linux. Is there any seriously good ones?

>>56343092

Yes.
https://stockfishchess.org/
http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/

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Is there a reason not to use Debian?

>>56343186
I need up to date software.

>>56341289
Of major ones, Slackware and Gentoo

>>56343092
>>56343140

Speaking of chess software: picture how niche these people are.

https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/issues/501

Not only do you have to be a super enthusiastic and prolific programmer, but you also have to be a great chess player.

>ywn be so smart to be able to participate in such discussions or programming jobs

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>>56343201
Is "outdated software" on Debian just a meme, or is it actually that bad?

So apparently my mouse has no drivers for linux. I have a Corsair M45. What do other than buy a new mouse?

>>56343229
No it's not a meme. they have an average of one or two years late software.

>>56343236
>mouse
>driver

>>56343229

Stop listening to idiots like >>56343201. He has no actual knowledge. Everything he knows comes from 4chan memes and myths posted on here.

Read this[0] with emphasis on the "testing" and "unstable" sections. Then go to the website which lists Debian pacakge information. Pick a package that interests you and see its version number in the testing/unstable repositories. Then compare that number to another "up-to-date" or "bleeding edge" distribution. You'll notice that it's generally the same.

That way you can make up your own, objective, fact-based opinions instead of trusting retards like this >>56343201 or borderline idiots like yourself who use "meme" to describe things.

>>56343294

Forgot the link.

[0] https://www.debian.org/releases/

>>56343236

What's the issue? What doesn't work?

Should I give my father an arch install or an ubuntu install? The rolling release of arch is really nice, but I've only installed arch once before, and I don't know how it handles upgrades. I know how ubuntu handles upgrades, but it can be a bit of a pain when it breaks your old configurations when updating packages in order for you to be able to recieve kernel upgrades and the like at all. Ubuntu also has a graphical package manager, and I'm not sure about how good a graphical frontend for pacman would be compared to the graphical frontend for apt on ubuntu (which is very "user friendly", user meaning non-poweruser)

I think that getting my father to learn how to use linux in a more poweruser way is not an option. He just wants the stability (and performance in desktop tasks) of linux.

>>56343294
>>56343299
Chromium on Debian Stable and Chromium on Arch are both version 52.0.2743.116-1
Is there something I'm missing? The package versions are exactly the same

>>56343294
Ok on debian
show me the result with stable debian
of
uname -a
bash --version
ocaml --version
firefox --version
ocaml --version
gcc --version
I just want to laugh at you. Maybe firefox is updated.

>>56343319

>stable Debian

There are more branches/repositories for Debian other than "stable". Just read the link from above.

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>>56343319

>>56343416
my sides, it's worse that what I thought

using ubuntu mate 1604, is anybody else having troubles with suspend/hibernate?

Every time I close the lid or suspend on command line, when I open the lid the computer starts up but the screen remains blank, then after like 15 seconds it just reboots and everything is back to normal

Reading that this is a common problem in 1604

>arch is the best XDD
>no debian is more better!!!

kys lads

Can I create a bootable USB drive in a Linux VM? I'm on OSX right now which sucks for things like this.

>>56343560
iirc OSX has dd so why don't you use that?

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Hi all
I installed dnsmasq on Ubuntn through GUI and I see it's running. How do I stop & start it so I can edit config files? I believe I need to use systemd but I'm not sure how to do that...

HALP!

>>56343560
>Can I create a bootable USB drive in a Linux VM? I'm on OSX right now which sucks for things like this.
Uhm, OSX rules for that. You can just use dd or any of the myrtiad of GUIs for OSX.

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>>56343593
>Ubuntn

>>56343560
https://unetbootin.github.io/

>>56343593
Use

sudo systemctl start dnsmasq

to start the service.

sudo systemctl stop dnsmasq

to stop it

>>56343593
systemctl stop <name>

edit said files and then

systemctl start <name>

>>56343654
>>56343658
Thank you bros! Could you also clue me in in how to tell if service is up or down? What's a good command to check for that?

>>56343676
journalctl -u dnsmasq

>>56343625
The Antergos wiki says that won't work

>>56343683
TY! very nice log!

>>56343676
also consider

systemctl status dnsmasq

>>56343726
very nice! ty!

>>56343687
I ought to work. Try it! Just don't alter the label of the drive.

using arch with mate-gtk3 and whenever I set the WM selection in mate-tweak to anything but "Marco (Software compositor)" it's breaking the desktop on the next boot.
No title bars on windows and screenfetch shows "unknown" as WM.

Don't really know how to fix this and have no clue which of the logfiles contains the info I need.

appreciate any help here

One of my classes requires Visual studios. Is there an alternative for this shit?

>>56343922
Maybe monodevelop. By the way your classes are shit.

>>56344018
Why is it shit?

>>56344065
Because good classes require Linux and OCaml, not windows and VS.

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>>56344120
my classes require debian7 and gcc 4.7

>>56344164
It's better. But they shouldn't impose distrib or OS and gcc version. But it's better.

>>56343006
I followed some instruction from a guide and actually after whole process i dont have any system installed. I am an idiot.

>>56344120
Why is a class considered better because they use a different OS? Is C++ supposed to be bad?

>>56344329
If they impose something it just means they don't really know how to use compilers and OS. If I teach you C or OCaml I will never impose the OS or the compiler version.

>>56339716
You suck

I have a suspicion that my Intel HD card drivers don't work properly on my Linux Mint 18.
There's a download of intel hd drivers for linux, specifically for ubuntu 18 and ubuntu 16 but current linux mint is based on ubuntu 14. What do?

>>56344749
>ubuntu 18
time traveler detected
but tell us about this download site

Just found this Linux easteregg.
PrtScr + ALT + c

>>56344844
What does it do?

>>56344857
>>56344844

>[ 7162.151316] sysrq: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled.

>>56344844
dont do this guize! it deletes syst32.
MODS MODS MODS

>>56344877
>>56344857

>Perform a system crash. A crashdump will be taken if it is configured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

>>56344799
Oh it actually supports Ubuntu 15.10. Apparently it's included with the ubuntu 16 install. Dunno why I remembered it wrong. Anyway I've just only started using linux and this is confusing.

>>56344857
Oh, it's because on my keyboard sysrq is on delete, not with prtint screen. That's why nothing happen.

>>56343318
>Chromium on Debian Stable and Chromium on Arch are both version 52.0.2743.116-1 Is there something I'm missing? The package versions are exactly the same
Pretty sure it's something along the lines of "internet browsers are so popular and important that they get regularly updated even on stable."

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>>56344897
>linus commited: lmao guys check out that funny easteregg

>>56344749
>>56344799
>>56344948

https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2016q2-intel-graphics-stack-release
If i just install the entire "stack release" of this project, including a new version of linux kernel, how likely is it to break my mint install?

>>56345017
>using mint at all
what is wrong with you

>>56345017
You don't go around and do retarded things like installing drivers manually on GNU/Linux. Stop now.

>>56345017
Well, the kernel is blacklisted from updates for a reason.

>>56345049
>Friendly GNU/Linux
>baits for another post before telling what distro he thinks is better (and why)
>inb4 install gentoo

>>56345091
it wouldn't be friendly not to tell him that mint is the worst distro around

>>56345178
why?
is it just >muh bloat or actual reasons?
should i just try ubuntu next?

>>56345049
>what is wrong with you
Easy. People don't care what's going on under the hood, they go for looks. See Windows 10, OS X. People would install Mint even if it would spy just link Windows.

>>56345207
see >>56340369

>>56345207
I don't like Canonical, but when it comes to beginner friendlyness, Ubuntu is the lesser evil.

>>56345217
Mint doesn't look particularly better than other distros and you can use whatever DE you want anyway, so what's your point?

>>56345264
The point is people want Cinnamon because of it's coming home Windows-like feeling.

>>56345264
Eh, for a shitty bloated distro mint cinnamon looks pretty good out of the box.

Too bad it's mint...

>>56345236
looks like they're working on it http://www.pcworld.com/article/3042173/linux/how-linux-mint-is-preventing-future-hacks-and-increasing-security.html

are

shutdown -h now

systemctl poweroff

and

systemctl isolate poweroff.target

really all doing the same thing or are there some minor differences?

>>56345394
poweroff alone just werk but why would you ever turn your computer off? that's what normalfags do

>>56345423
well looks like I am a normalfag

▶uptime
 00:24:37 up  3:34,  1 user,  load average: 0.63, 0.27, 0.21

>>56345450
>well looks like I am a normalfag
yes

$ uptime 
 00:34:29 up 7 days, 16:20,  4 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.25, 0.26

>>56345423
The only reason to reboot is for updating the kernel.
>>56345394
Never turn your computer off, it works like light bulbs: They die when you turn them on and off.

>>56345643
I actually have to turn off my computer when i am going to sleep because it is sitting 1.5m away from my bed

>>56341300
Dubs confirm vim superiority. Spacemacs users BTFO!

>>56345661
Can't see the problem here.

>>56345855
The problem is my computer is really loud.
It is made up of old used parts and the gpu is burning at 65°C right after startup which means that the fans are spinning at almost 100% all the time and rattling really loud in the case.

G1swMTszMm1JbnN0YWxsIBtbMDE7MzRtR2VudG9vG1ttCg==

Did someone manage to successfully install steam here?

>>56346001
SW5zdGFsbCBhIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiB0aGF0IHJlc3BlY3RzIHlvdXIgZnJlZWRvbS4K

>>56346085
I think many, many people have successfully done that. I definitely have. It sounds like you're having problems, but it's hard to help unless you give more details like which distro you're trying to install it on.

>>56346115
I'm running LMDE 2; drivers are nVidia proprietary ones. Steam was installed by apt.

At first, it complained about not finding libGL.so.1, I solved that by creating a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/steam.conf file with the following:

/usr/lib32
/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu

Then the error message changed to

Running Steam on linuxmint 2 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
[2016-08-30 20:22:18] Startup - updater built Aug 23 2016 18:24:59
SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)

I'm thinking about switching from windows. I have some experience with Ubuntu and am looking forward to getting a more in depth distro to work with, but hear a lot of shit about systemd.

Is there an issue with systemd?

I hear Gentoo doesn't have systemd implemented, and other smaller distros like Devuan, but are there any others that tend to work well that don't use systemd?

Same as >>56346280
One of the things I've googled was about installing the package libgl1-mesa-swx11; however, apt wants to uninstall half of my system if I apt-get that.

>>56346318
most of the problmes that people havewith systemd are off an ideological nature.
If you do not care about that there is nothing wrong with sytemd, it just works

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Sup, /fglt/

1. What the fuck is Unknown: Unknown?

2. How do I set up the Nvidia driver?

>apt
disgusting

>>56346318
The systemd issue is a philosophical, a new user shouldn't care.

>>56346553
>low quality bait
cancer

>>56346543
I meant, I get Ubuntu errors every time I reboot because of it, switching between iGPU and dGPU is not automatic (I have to log off and on), and it drains my battery when I use the nvidia.

And do I need to install drivers as normal on my Virtual Machine?

>>56346280
Hm.. I don't have much experience with LMDE, but since it's Debian based, have you tried anything on this page? https://wiki.debian.org/Steam

Installing on Debian is as simple as:
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt update
> apt install steam

>>56346557
>>56346375

Ok, that was what I had mostly come towards, just looking for more perspectives.

>>56346765
pro-systemd be like "yo we gonna simplify the boot process by unifying it into a single thing"

anti-systemd be like "yo that's not modular like the traditional unix design philsophy" and "yo that's too much power for one group/entity to have" and "yo it be suspicious how systemd be so virulently opposed, but still so popular"

I use systemd because it seems like more trouble than it's worth to avoid it. Speaking of which, is anyone here running a non-systemd to speak against me?

>>56346691
As I said, Steam was already installed, by the very apt-get you mentioned; the problem is running it.

>>56346856
using devuan and it's no more trouble than debian to set up and use.

>>56346691
Also, I tried to remove the libraries mentioned in the Troubleshooting part; the path is different, but I found them. The error message persists.

>>56346884
Alright! I'm gonna test it next weekend to see if you're not full of shit. Then I'll report back to the thread and either praise or shit on Devuan depending on how it goes.

I really want a non-systemd.. system.

>>56346868
>>56346914
Sorry man, I haven't ran into those sorts of issues before. I did a search for "Mint LMDE steam" and found this thread that looks pretty relevant to your issue: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=175596

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>>56346918
Go for it my man. I switched from Debian testing to Devuan testing and it's super comfy. Running lxde with everything I need. Loving life without systemdick in the butt.

>>56346939
To be honest, since I've been toying with the idea of changing distro to Mint "proper", might as well let it be for now...

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Can someone suggest a decent bitmap japanese font? WenQuanYi looks like shit and mplus doesn't work.

Just removed systemd from my Debian install
What init system do I change to
Or do I keep sysvinit and slap openrc on top of it

>>56347246
misaki

>>56347604
>removing your init system while having no idea what you're doing

>>56347859
I have though
I'm using sysvinit at the moment, but want to know if anyone has recommendations of better inits

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>>56347811

how to install that on arch?

>>56347246
>>56347951
just move the font to ~/.fonts or ~/.local/share/fonts (mkdir if doesn't exist)
also, mplus was not working probably because of the codepage (jisx0208)
you have to convert to Unicode BMP with fontforge
same for misaki

>>56347246
Are you using urxvt?

Is archboot a GUI installer, like all other distros have?
If so, is there anything wrong with it?

How long is it going to take me to install arch considering ive set up ubuntu and two linux mints without error?

>>56341251
memes vs truth

>>56347604
>>56347926
keep sysvinit

>>56348033
Just use arch-anywhere.

Less than 20 minutes.

>>56343186
autistic defaults
apt
memes

>>56348062
With or without openrc on top and why

>>56343309
Everything registers as a left click, my navigation buttons don't do anything at all, I can't scroll or switch my DPI.

>>56348018

yes

>>56343281
Software but whatever. Shit doesn't work right.
See >>56348096

who /rhce/ here

>>56348099
If wqy is clipped, put

URxvt.lineSpace:            1

in your xresources.

Should I reinstall a clean slate netinst if I want to switch to a window manager? Or should I just install it over gnome and pretend gnome isn't there? Does it matter?

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>>56348000

and how do I do that?

>>56348078
Without for me because haven't had the need for it. Sysvinit alone is has been fine.

new thread
>>56348189

new thread
>>56348189

new thread
>>56348189

>>56348192
>25 posts early
>flt
>no OP copypasta
kys

>>56348227
>including a pasta that says "Meet the /fglt/ team:"

never on my life pal.

>>56348170
Fuck whatever that guy is talking about.

sudo pacman -S otf-ipafont

use ipa gothic

You're done

>>56347951
>uses Arch Linux
>can't even install a font
toplel archbabbies

>>56348272
What he wants is a cool japanese font for the terminal.

>>56348272
she asked for bitmap japanese font though

dumb arch users

I deleted the thread. Just wanted to fuck with you nerds.

LATA

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>>56348309
>>56348318
I've always just used ipa gothic in the terminal, and never had an issue.

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>>56348382

I'm already using Kochi Gothic and it's pretty gud.
But I want a bitmap one.

I don't understand, why doesn't this start however many processes I need?
How do I fix it?

#!/bin/bash

echo "enter IP"
read name
echo "How many times?"
read numb
for run in {1..$numb}
do
  ~/things.pl $name &
done
curl ipinfo.io/$name

>>56339638
no

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Ok so i just installed this.... now what..

>>56348426
>>56348426
You can't use variables in brace expansion. Use seq or a c style loop: for ((x=1; x<=$numb; x++)); do printf $x; done

>>56348505
epic failure..

->
-> >>56348557
->

>>56348534
Thanks.
Works now.