/fgt/ - Friendly GNU Thread

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Linux nerds! How do I switch my Alt key for "Winshit" key? It's driving me nuts and I keep hitting it by a mistake. Everything would be fine if I could switch these things around.

Using Mint with Cinnamon.

Thanks!

gnu = cancer

>>56328287
You mean like with xmodmap?

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>CrossOver Linux 15.0.1 is the easiest way to run Microsoft Windows software on your Linux PC without buying a Windows license, rebooting, or using a virtual machine. Also games, and utility programs all in one application

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3236387e461b82ba70fcf85aac327f30bd416478&dn=Crossover+Linux+15.0.1&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

>>56328297
you = cancer

kys

>>56328371
epic post bro

>>56328315
yeah, is there like a gui or something?

>>56328287
you never tried to look in the actual mint forum for mint related issues.... ????
>forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=3158

>>56328324

>Are there any Windows applications that you can't get working under CrossOver?

>We can probably get any Windows application to work. We managed to get Microsoft Office to run, so odds are pretty good that we can get your application running too. The only question is how much time and money it will take.

Sickening. So they're just bundling Wine and other software other people wrote and selling it? It's not even licensed under the GPL from what I've seen.

>>56328419
>you never tried to look in the actual mint forum for mint related issues.... ????
that doesn't actually do what I want. I'd like to switch Winshit <---> Alt on both sides of the keyboard. I dont care about disabling the actual menu.

>>56328416
https://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/

>>56328287
>Using Mint with Cinnamon.
Just a warning, Mint is currently the worst distro around, consider switching to a better distro. You wount get security updates for the kernel and packages will break. It was also hacked in the past and backdoors were added into the isos.

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>:~$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
>Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /usr/share/pkg-config-dpkghook line 30.

wut.

>>56328469
>https://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/
OH FUCK YES! Thank you anon. Exactly what I was hoping would exist. Doing it through command line and copy/pasting various key code is damn error prone.

>>56328474
>MUH ISSUES
Dude please. I dont care. Mint works perfectly for me. Everythign I need it to do just fucking works. It's the only distro that works well out of the box. Anyway, this is a wrong thread for distro evangelism.

>>56328474
>tfw install mint is the new delete system32

>>56328499
Also...

>E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
>E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

WUT.

Anyone care to point me in the right direction, I am trying to do a minimal install of F24 with i3wm, yet I am struggling to install Xorg with dnf, Google has provided little help.

I would be very appreciative of any input, thanks chaps

>>56328526
It's okay if you don't care, but don't say it works when it actually doesn't. Security issues are serious issues.

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>retards think random anons will have any idea what the thread is about

>>56328499
means ya gettin hacked by the fbi

>>56328623
Install X window system in the netinstall. Or install lxde version and then disable the login manager and pretend lxde isn't there.

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>>56328693
That sucks. I knew downloading Linux would make me a bigger target than I already was.

>>56328664
>It's okay if you don't care, but don't say it works when it actually doesn't. Security issues are serious issues.
bullshit. can you cite some news articles when someone's Mint got hacked?
anyway, gtfo! go troll in some other thread... preferably Winshit or some gaymer one.

>>56328623
>fedora
>minimal install
don't even bother
I've been there and it's shit

>>56328730
Linux Mint is shit, other distros are good. You picked the worst one. Why are you sperging out and acting like he's against GNU/Linux? He's not. You're just stupid.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/

How can I back up ppas and the installed programs I have in kubuntu? I want to be able to add what I had and remove what I didn't have in a fresh installation.

>>56328750
>http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/
thats not the fault of the distro itself but the person managing it. linux mint, when installed, has no sec issues.

ps: main dev of Arch got hacked too. so what.

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Continued from >>56309173, I tried startx and all that loads is a black screen with a cursor (pic related). I'll try undoing the changes I made before this happened, but the file was so minor that I don't know how it could have caused this. Basically I copied a file from wicd and edited that copy to connect to my uni's wifi. When I restarted my computer, it only loads terminal. I definitely fell for the Mint meme.

>>56328795
looks like PEBKAC

Ubuntu users thinking of switch to Debian, The thing is I actually like unity, it has this cool feature were windows automatically take up half the screen, Any DE with similar features? KDE looks kind meh... is I3 just a meme?

>>56328858
I prefer gnome over unity. But if you like unity why not just stay with Ubuntu?

Newfag here.

Do I use Nvidia or Noveau driver for my dGPU (GTX 960M)?

Or maybe disable it completely and roll with the integrated one by itself?

Do VPS servers usually come with a dedicated IP?
Also, do you guys usually set up your own DNS server when you run a website from a VPS?

>>56328844
Probably desu, but the file was so minor that I don't know why it would change so much

started with ubuntu and im not using mint, what's the next step?

On Windows, I used to use AutoHotkey for spelling corrections. You could give it a list of words and their replacements and it would monitor keypresses and just inject backspaces & their replacements. It works across every app.

How do I get that functionality under Linux?

>>56328983
>ubuntu
>next step
Install Apartheid Linux.

>>56328983
im now*

>>56328983
you are ready for gentoo

>>56328998
You've reached the apex. No need to fuck around. Use Mint to get important shit done. Unless you're in IT, fucking around with various distros is a giant waste of time.

Linux Mint is an enemy of your freedom.

>>56328914
Yes.
No.

>>56328858
>were windows automatically take up half the screen, Any DE with similar features?

xfce has that, you just gotta map it in the settings because I don't remember what the default shortcuts are. I have mine to ctrl+alt+left/right_arrow

>>56328983
fedora then manjaro

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Just installed arch and i3.

What did I do? What should I do? Did I fuck up?

I'm too retarded for this shit.

>>56328907
If you want to do anything gpu heavy then install the proprietary driver for better performance, otherwise shouldn't be necessary

>>56329311
you need to install fonts
ttf-dejavu if you want it to just werk

>>56329311
whatever it is you use a computer for?

>>56329380
Is that it? Hmm thanks.

I didn't think it'd be this minimal...

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How do I slow down my chassis fan? I followed this guide but it doesn't do shit to my fan:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fan_speed_control

I think CPU fan is automatically controlled but my chassis fan is at full speed all the time. It's so damn loud!

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So I have been using Fedora for a good while I love it. I have a question though, if I update to the newest Fedora will I have to use Easylife again to install the proprietary stuff?

So I'm retarded and I only have a couple of Powerbook G4s to spare for Linux. What's a good distro for these things? I would use YellowDog had this been 2010.
Thanks

the answer to all questions is

>>56330049
fuck you

>>56330049
install gentoo?

>>56329403
>>56329311
Haha there's so much stuff that isn't installed and I just tried to install urxvt-patched and now my i3 terminal keybind is broken. I think I really am too dumb for this.

>>56328907
igpu for normal stuff
nvidia proprietary driver for everything else

Nvidia is enemy of your freedom, they have shit open source drivers

what does it mean when a job says they expect me to "know" linux? what do they want me to know?

>>56330161
Linux

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>manually tiling a tile-less wm
you mad nerds?

>>56330192
You could at least make your edges line up, man.

>>56330074
>urxvt-patched
why?
also, stop saying that shit is broken
nothing is broken, you probably need to configure
just because the defaults aren't working the way you want doesn't mean it's broken

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>>56328297
what is wrong with GNU, GNU is just fine, fuck off back to the BSD thread if you wanna cry about how GNU is communism and how you have PTSD over the word GNU

>>56328794
mint doesn't provide security patches for the sake of the stability, because their DE is "shit". I find it awesome for the user, but it's buggy as hell on other distributions

I'm currently installing Debian
WHen it prompts software selection:
Do I have to install debian desktop environment + GNOME
Or can I just install GNOME?

>>56330397
plz respond

>>56330275
How am I to open the terminal to edit the config? I haven't set a keybind for dmenu yet.

Any software that allows me to keep an agenda to stay organized?

>>56330412
nevermind I'm dumb

>>56330397
you can just install gnome, no need for debian desktop environment.

Sup /g/ I need to write a bash script that'll crash and force a reboot on a linux computer because I don't have sudo rights and I'm not walking half fucking hour to hard reset the machine by hand.

Anyone have something like this?

>>56330448
FUCK
the way it was listed made it seem that gnome was dependent on debian desktop environment

>>56330426
ctrl+alt+f2
login and edit
reload i3

>>56330435
emacs org-mode

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Reminder that females matter.
https://archwomen.org/

>>56330468
a simple fork-bomb can crash the machine, I don't know about re-booting it though.

>>56330529

can't forkbomb, limited in processes

>>56330468
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt

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>>56330614

permission denied

>>56330763
send the keystrokes

I'm trying to do a fresh install of mint 18 on my laptop currently running mint 17 and a smaller partition with an old antergos.
Problem is it won't load the live version off the DVD. I burned the iso, change my boot options, get to the gnu grub, select the mint 18 cinnamon 64-bit option, and get a black screen. Compatibility mode does the same thing.
Is there something I'm doing wrong?

>>56330878
Don't install Mint it's the worst distro.

>>56328258
Could use an answer to this problem, if you patricians could spare the time.

>>56330880

>>56330891
I'm a pleb and I'm used to it. I just want it to work. I've also tried suse and didn't like it much

>>56330471
Thank you man really. I'm sorry to bring my retardation here.

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>>56328258
Where do I start with Linux security?

>>56330523
>Arch is going SJW like Debian and Fedora
At least we still have Gentoo.

>>56330901
1, mpd
2, something like plex or kodi probably
3, would like an answer for this too.

are there any really minimal display managers?

like just a command prompt, where you type in username & password, then it sends you to your regular graphical session

>>56330985
Ufw/iptables, dnscrypt, selinux...
Maybe follow your distros hardening walkthrough.

>>56331061
You can make startx run automatically on login in one tty, tty1 at best.

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In a previous thread I asked about using apple's wired keyboard with Linux... >>56323312 and now I finally picked it up from a guy off Craigslist. Paid $35 for it brand new after bargaining with him.

I've been using mechanical switches all my life (never owned laptops so never encountered chicklet style) but I was never satisfied with them. I tried MS Designer bluetooth keyboard at the store but wasn't exactly happy with the keys (they are mushy and doesn't register keys well). MS Designer Bluetooth keyboard is also expensive but it does come with a mouse... which is great if you need one.

Anyway, after using this apple keyboard for an hour, these keyboards are the fucking GOAT! It takes so little force to press them yet the travel is near perfect. My fingertips don't hurt after typing for long anymore!

Linux modifications were easy too. I remapped media keys and assigned those 'show all windows' and 'show desktop' keys and now it's perfect. The keyboard also has two USB ports on the side and I plugged my wireless mouse dongle into one of them. My mouse also feels a bit snappier & doesn't disconnect since the dongle is so close to it.

Anyway, if you want a great keyboard, find a used one of these. Don't own any apple equipment but this keyboard is fucking great! Thanks /flt/!

>>56331101
Good for you.

>>56331052
Thanks for the response, family.

About to try linux mint 18 on a laptop i'm not using.

Is it worth? Windblows boi here.

>>56331406
Mint is a poor choice. Go for Ubuntu or Fedora.

>>56331442
Already tried ubuntu, no matter what I did it was just too ugly.

>>56328258
Opera does not support Adobe flash player.

Is there anyway i can get adobe flash player to work on opera?

>>56331406
>About to try linux mint 18 on a laptop i'm not using.
Mint is the best. I switched from Win10 about 2 months ago. In Mint, everything just works.

Don't listen to autist in this thread.

>>56331478
Currently installing friendo I hope you are right.

>>56331496
You'll like it. You can easily change themes and pick something that you prefer. Check out System Settings for things like mouse, keyboard etc. You'll probably gonna want to change the mouse one.

>>56331478
It includes nasty proprietary shit like flash by default. It is an enemy of freedom.

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>>56331463
You could have just installed Cinnamon or Mate in Ubuntu?

>>56331556
Nah, dont tick the 'install proprietary software' radio button for fuck sake.

This is the kind of anon that goes for express install and his toolbar is half the screen.

>>56331496
You will grow to not like it after about a month or two, just get used to linux on it, then go to something like OpenSUSE, Fedora, NOT debian, or Arch if you have autism

>>56331590
Why not Debian?

>>56331709
Unstable - even the stable version.
Shitty driver support - especially for Wifi and sound cards
and apt-get sucks

It was brought into /g/ as a shill distro - now newfags on /g/ shill it thinking it's a good distro

>>56331556
You still need flash for a lot of things.

>>56331101
>/flt/

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>>56331807
>need

>>56331731
Now this is 100% shitposting.

>>56332054
Now this is 100% butt hurt debian user

>>56332156
Well, nice meme, but nothing of your post is even near reality.

>>56331473
bump

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>>56332177
>calling things you dont agree with a meme, meme

>>56332054
He's not wrong though. OpenSuse is better in all ways. Gentoo is far superior but requires much for work.

>>56332240
This

Don't want to recommend Gentoo for a new linux user.

>>56332240
>>56332256
I'm starting to hate this thread. Why do you feel the need to spread lies about distros you don't even use?

>>56332387
obvious samefag is obvious
maybe he wants to feel like a real nerd
debian is love, debian is life

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>>56332423
No you are just out numbered

Stay mad, Debian fag.

Also i recommended you to stay at /r/Debian.

For some reason declaring a font in Xresources makes it where I can't open the terminal with i3's keybinds. I'm declaring the fonts exactly as it says I should be. What could the problem be?

I have a strange problem. I accidentally installed GNU/Linux on two new SSDs (I meant to save one for dual-booting, but default partitioning sucked up both). When I rebooted, I got a blinking cursor. I rebooted again, went into the BIOS, and noticed that only one SSD was visible in the boot selector, but two are visible in the boot override screen. So now I have to override everytime I reboot.

Wtf.

Please either be friendly or fuck off.

>>56332507
You aren't declaring the fonts exactly as it says you should be.

>>56332533
Fuck you.

>>56332542
If I'm not declaring them correctly then the wiki is wrong. It's that simple.

>>56332507
We don't know since you aren't posting your changes.

>>56332578
That's probably more likely than some dark magic reason.

Is NixOS a meme?

>tfw semicolons instead of colons in my Xresources font declarations

>>56332755
Can't see it since you aren't posting your face.

>>56332908
That feel not my face bitch.

Is there a reason that I'm getting absolute shit download speeds through Steam? On Windows I get around 7MiB/s, but on Manjaro I'm getting around 3KiB/s.
Some simple searching found people suggesting dnsmasq, but that's set up on Manjaro by default, so I doubt that it's the cause of the issue.
Can anyone help?

>inb4 HURR DURR GAYMER

>>56333161
>manjaro
found your problem

Not him, but what's wrong with Manjaro? At least they're willing to fix their security issues, unlike the shitheads over at Mint.

>>56333195
>>56333222
Forgot to link.

>>56333222
>what's wrong with Manjaro

It's not Arch

>>56333222
>At least they're willing to fix their security issues
Manjaro don't fix anything, nobody has any code ability there. If fact, they are completely incompetent and introduce problems which don;t exist upstream. They claim that they stabilize packages but if you find a bug they tell you to report it upstream. Upstream won't do anything because you're using manjaro. And that is to be generous to them, not mentioning the stupid shit they have done.
Their forums are like the blind leading the blind which is shitty because they promote the idea that your grandma can use manjaro but they offer no support for people who cannot research their own issues.

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>>56333195
Nice meme, but I would actually really appreciate help.

[ Outside of GNOME ]

How to remove the border around <right click, File/Edit/View/...> menu* which some(/most?) GTK+3 programs have?

gtk.css for GTK+3.20.x?

GTK+2 Adwaita does not have such borders around click/popup menus which works well with Compton.

>>56328258
I started doing FOSS development (GIMP). They use the GNU C Library (GLib.h). Link me to your best resources. Please?

Convince me to switch from Ubuntu to Debian

>>56328429
crossover contributes plenty back to wine
hell, besides code they even host winehq.org

wine would move much slower if not for crossover, don't be hard on them for making a business out of it

>>56334712
Look at askubuntu

So i have dual booted Kubuntu now. What cool stuff can i do now (except of installing gentoo)?

>>56335552
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

>>56335552
Using it for example.

>>56335580
Thank you. I'll probably break everything, though.

Anyone here using xfce with i3?

Anyone here using gentoo?

Anyone here pooping blood?

>>56330161
Depends what your job is

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Computer has started to freeze randomly.
Didn't use to happen - Might coincide with a semi recent OS reinstall.
It's not a normal freeze either. If mpv is playing, audio continues as normal while picture remains still. I often still have a moveable mouse, but nothing reacts to it. No keyboard shortcuts (like, to open things) work. Cannot switch to a different tty. Have not yet noticed it coincide with anything, it just happens every few days.
Debian 8.5 Jessie
x86_64 Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64
Intel Core i7-2600K
installed on a SSD
How do I troubleshoot this?
What logs and where?

>>56335908
What gpu drivers do you use? Can you keybind a kill signal and trigger it when stuff freezes?

>>56335937
I don't have a dedicated gpu and have never once in my life had to deal with whatever drivers are.
What should this kill kill? just X?
I kind of doubt it will work because none of my others do. If C-M-f2 isn't getting me to a different tty, nothing else is going to be captured/executed.

>>56331807
such as? haven't had flash installed for years

>>56335977
Oh so it is just the intel hd 4000 igpu right?
Maybe try a newer kernel and see if the issue persists.
You could kill x, yes.

>>56335997
I'm interested in logs though and what they can tell me about what keeps going wrong.
I just don't know where to look and probably how to interpret what I may find there.

Is archboot a GUI installer, like all other distros have?
If so, is there anything wrong with it?

How long is it going to take me to install arch considering ive set up ubuntu and two linux mints without error?

Does anyone know which package adds those generic "web browser" "terminal emulator", "file manager" desktop files?

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what do I need to install to use latex with vim?

>>56336578

Never mind, it was "exo", which is part of Xfce.

I need some advice. I have a headless ubuntu server without any gui running on my machine. I have another machine with windows installed (i can install ubuntu in VM there if needed) and from this machine i need to display the full file stucture of the ubuntu server machine, so that way i can browse it and adjust the file with same ease with which you can browse for example your C drive with windows exporer. I can't obviously use samba for this because i need to access all shit including the root folder and be able to write into them.

Why does Firefox keep shitting on ALSA? I can get sound to work everywhere except Firefox.

>>56328287
I would recommend at least installing Ubuntu because Mint tends to have problems with security.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=108974

That is a good source for you bud.

>>56336623
Just use SFTP through SSH.

>>56328795
Did you make sure to download a dm

>>56328983
Fedora

>>56336650
Ftp doesn't allow me to directly modify files, i have to download them, modify, and then reupload

>>56333546
Ummmm maybe it is your wifi? If not check the arch wiki for network managers.

>>56336688
SFTP != FTP
They're completely different protocols.
SFTP (usually) runs over SSH and has full read-write access, assuming you have the correct permissions.
I know there are several SFTP-capible programs on Windows, but I don't use Windows, so I can't really tell you which one is best.

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Every time i try to install ubuntu 16 in my virtual box it boots from the iso, shows the UBUNTU . . ., and then i get a screen full of pic related and i'm fucked

>>56336782
>ubuntu
found your problem

>>56336801
haha le ebin funny ubuntu meme xDD

>>56336814
Not who you're replying to, but I've always had terrible luck with Ubuntu on virtual machines.
I didn't get anything like >>56336782, but I would usually get stuck on a purple or black screen.

Hey fags, suggest some good FOSS programs for someone who recently started using a standalone window manager. I'm currently looking for a PDF viewer, but I need all the typical shit that a DE provides.

>>56328297
Cancer/Linux
>>56330974
Look up "virtual terminals"
>>56330192
>that white audio icon in the taskbar
That was reason enough for me to stop using XFCE.

Can you faggots stop with this /flt/ and /fgt/ bullshit, please? It's childish, retarded and brings unnecessary GNU shitposting.

>>56336871
>fags
linux isn't suited for edgelords, pls reinstall windows and leave

>>56336929
>you faggots stop
No one is really arguing over it, and it only happened because 2nd to last thread took too long to make a new OP, so someone took the liberty to make a shit one. This OP is just referencing the last thread.

>>56336938
>thinks fag is an edgy word
Get triggered, nigger. Would you prefer I said, "Hey buddies," instead?

why does linux say that system reboot is requires and 6 packages CAN be updated? if i reboot without doing apt get it won't do anything

>>56337030
Also how do i reboot my computer without losing my 2 month uptime? I have been holding off of installing security updates because of that

Which browser should I use ?My machine has Pentium 4 and 512 mb ram.Running Lubuntu.

>>56337127
Midori.

Or really early versions of firefox

What is some sexy terminal font that will make me wet every time i type in a command?

>>56337235
Source code pro

If i want to do ssh -X doesn't it mean the other machine has to be running an X service for this to work?

Is there any reason for me, a casual user, to switch to a different shell from bash?

>>56337235
yuki

>>56337235
Iconsolata is simple and nice

>>56337069
Why?
>>56337030
Some packages require the system to reboot.

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Anyone here using linux + Windows 10?

how do you disable that privacy crap in windows 10?

Any WM-only users here? How do you automate the processes that DEs usually do for you?

Example: I have to manually connect to wifi via ifupdown and it's incredibly tedious.

>>56337651
What does that have to do with linux? Ask in the friendly linux thread.

>>56337711
>Ask in the friendly linux thread.
you wot

>>56337651
By not giving your windows VM no internet

>>56337738
>no
any*

>>56337733
>friendly windows thread

>>56337757
there is no friendly windows thread, retard

>>56337775
Who cares? You're asking about windows in a linux thread, why would we know? A lot of use don't even have windows installed.

>>56337069
You've installed (or updated) package(s) that requires a complete reboot of the system.
When any software is updated, this software must be restarted to use the new version. If a package is very close to the kernel (or if it's the kernel), there is no other way to reboot the whole machine.
Additionally to that, there is 6 new package updates available in the repositories.

Obviously, you can't reboot without losing your uptime.

>>56337651
>Windows 10?
There is a trick extremely simple: only uses the Linux part of your dual boot.

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Regarding to rolling distros
Why is it not recommending to "upgrade" single packages?
While it's OK to "downgrade" single package?
Will upgrading packages like mpv/ffmpeg only really effect the system?

>>56337971
Libraries are linked so if you upgrade one only then it could break compatibility of others which also use it.

>>56337838
>having to reboot to complete install
what is this? 2005? Windows has been able to install updates without rebooting for 10 years now

>>56338137
What does that tell you?

>>56338150
that windows is still vastly superior to linux in every conceivable way, and that linux only beats windows in the domain of web servers

>>56338162
Ok kid, that must be the only conclusion which can be drawn from that statement.

>>56338137
>Windows has been able to install updates without rebooting for 10 years now
Wow anon, I have seen many lies in the internet but you are a special case

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GNOME with Deepin styling is pretty great actually.

>>56337971
/r/ source of this picture

>>56338179
It's true, windows only forces you to reboot for very important updates

>>56338201
As does linux you retard.
>backtracking this much

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>>56337995
You mean if I upgraded mpv, all mpv dependences will upgrade as well?
And why is it OK on Non-rolling distros?
>>56338199
Licentious elevator.

>>56338182
what's the easiest way to do that? I run ubuntu...

>>56338453
>And why is it OK on Non-rolling distros?
Where do you get the idea that it is ok? Dependencies can be problematic is all cases. With non rolling the package manger usually wouldn't give you an update which is incompatible with the installed base, usually it is just security/minor updates, so usually point updates. Rolling means you could get an whole new major release version which could break backwards compatibility completely (not that unusual at all).
I'm curious though, why would you want to update a single package?

>>56332423
>>56332387
No really. Debian is not good and Suse is better. I used Debian for years and only in recent years has this been the case.

>>56335799
Yes

>>56328258
>the GNU OS box is semen colored

>>56338550
Install Ubuntu

>>56338555
>my semen is grey

>>56338566
legit kek

What's with all the hate and shitposting in this thread

I thought we were friendly

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>>56338514
>I'm curious though, why would you want to update a single package?
I had very unfortunate experience with manjaro after installing a new package that promoted me to install "Manjaro-System" package.
After I did that I got stuck in a screen with Starting version 221.
That's why I'm asking to learn more.
Currently I'm interested in doing three things.
1. Updating ffmpeg/mpv
2. Installing Intel VAAPI on T420
3. Not fucking up my system in the process.

>>56338535
Better KDE for sure, but I don't think Debian has gone down all that much in the last year or two. They certainly handle things more beuracatically than other distros and that means group think and muddled work at times; however Suse and others fail at time as well.

We use OpenSUSE at work and I have CentOS on my home server and Gentoo on the desktop. No problems with any other distros I've tried lately, I just got used to my tools and keep them as is.

My biggest gripe with Debian and Fedora are Gnome being so antithetical to my workflow. I really prefer KDE if I'm going to get things done.

>>56338656
Stop spreading FUD. Debian is the only linux for users by users. Social Justice is important too. Debian should be praised for the contributions in both areas. Temporary problems aren't systemic problems.

>>56337166

>using web browsers with security issues
>thinking an older version of firefox will somehow make browsing more responsive when you're browsing the same websites

Kill yourself for spreading bad advice.

>>56338699
Jesus Christ. I'm not even attacking Debian. Chill out. It's fine.

Hey guys, just curious:

I use GNOME on my desktop and i3 on my laptop. On my desktop, I currently have it setup to autologin to my session, so that the login and choose-DE/WM screen doesn't show up.

Question 1: How could I set up my config files so that by default, when nothing is done, it logs into GNOME, but when a modifier key or something is pressed or held during boot (which takes like 3 seconds since it's an SSD), it starts an i3 session instead?

Question 2: Say I'm already logged into GNOME in tty1. If I wanted to, could I start an i3 session in tty2? And if so, how?

I'm using Debian Testing, if that matters at all.

>>56338701
>He thinks his browser is free of security issues
>He thinks newer browsers will run on pentium-age hardwares

You tried

>>56338719
(I should clarify, of course i3 is already installed and prepped on the desktop, I just don't have it as the default that gdm uses. It appears as an option when I turn off autologin)

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>>56338714
Debqueens are flaming SJWs, anything may trigger them really hard.

Approach with caution

>>56338720

>latest version of your web browser
>latest potential security issues

>old version of your web browser
>latest potential security issues + old security issues patched in the newer version

There, I simplified it for you.

>>He thinks newer browsers will run on pentium-age hardwares
They will. Not that it matters, because your browsing experience will be horrible on both since you're browsing the same websites.

You didn't try.

>>56337127
In practice there's not really such a thing as light web browsers, unless you wanna go full on terminal mode.

Just try Firefox and Chromium, see which is more responsive for you. And don't listen to that anon saying to try previous versions. That's shit advice, you always want the latest version of browsers with their security updates in order

>>56338622
Well to be honest, I feel that is one of the shortcomings of manjaro, I've had similar weird problems like that in the past in multiple installs and gave up. The version 221 is systemd though so I'm not sure what might have happened. It would be better to find the root of the problem rather than just updating a few select packages, that can only be a temporary solution.

>>56338739
Holy shit. That explains a lot.

>>56338656
>Better KDE for sure
This meme.
What is it you think is different? The theme?

>>56338751
>Conveniently ignoring the ">He thinks his browser is free of security issues" part

>>56338780
Suse is literally designed around KDE where Debian is designed around Gnome. What's to debate here?

>>56338455
I don't really know. On Arch it's as simple as installing the deepin-gtk-theme and the wallpaper packages.
I'm guessing you can add a deepin ppa somewhere, and find the packages in the launchpad site.
It's not that different from the likes of Arc, so you might just want to prefer using that. This deepin theme is pretty glaringly white, a bit too much for the desktop but quite okay for the Thinkpad's TN panel.

>>56338780
Uh oh, another Debianqueen. :^)

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>>56338776
:^)

>>56338782

In that case don't use any browser at all. You don't have an argument.
Older versions of web browsers are technically inferior in the security sense (and in other ways too). Since you're an idiot who doesn't understand that you're resorting to some other claim and trying to cover up your retarded advice.

>>56338836
LOL

>>56338814
Makes no difference, kde isn't magically different.

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>>56338836
>>56338739
Muh sides

>>56338860
Fuck off queen.

>>56338871
Good argument son.

>>56338836
what is systemmd?

>>56338819
>>56338455

Themes aren't distribution specific. If it's a GTK theme, you install it the same on every computer.
Put it in your HOME directory under .themes and it will show up in your theme selecting utility of choice.

>>56338814

Name a few things which they "designed" around and which makes the same release of KDE better on OpenSUSE.

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>>56338764
>It would be better to find the root of the problem rather than just updating a few select packages
That was in 0.8.0 after I couldn't solve it I did a new install with 0.8.13.
And have been very careful in installing packages, that's why I only use AUR or build from source.
To this day I search for a solution but never found out.

Right, I'm out

>>56338962
Bye suse guy

>>56338739
see >>56330523

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>>56339000
See >>56338739
and >>56338836

Trying to compile IceCat on Debian.
Gives me error when typing ./configure,

Building directly in the main source directory is not allowed. To build, you must run configure from a separate directory (referred to as an object directory).

How would I make this?

>>56338903
Yes, but look at
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/deepin-gtk-theme/
>Build Date: 2016-08-23 08:21 UTC
It gets updated quite regularly, I'm assuming. Although DEs on Ubuntu only get updated per release, right? So then I suppose it doesn't really matter if the theme gets updated.

GTK is a finicky beast.

On the subject of themes, any other recommendations? As nice as these edgy dark menu bars are, Raleigh is actually more usable. Not too glaring, but with high contrast.

Reminder that all Arch users got meme'd.
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

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>>56339047
While debqueens get memed every single thread

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>>56339047
>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users
>has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there
>aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are
>made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity.

ebin

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Could we please stop flinging shit over "which distro is BEST distro", muh SJW's, muh alt-right jokes, and all this unrelated bullshit and just focus on helping newbies with their issues?

Don't you realize you have absolutely zero things to gain by arguing over inane shit like that?

Friendly. GNU/Linux. Thread.
Help people with their issues, don't be a shitposter. And don't reply to shitposters, flamewars get started in a fucking nanosecond.

>>56339076
C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D

>>56339080
This thread hasnt been friendly in months. Today it's nothing but satire, /fglt/ is dead. Rest in freedom.

I don't use loonix but this thread reminded me of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1JqMBbJ5hI

>>56339116
Was just a question about time when neo /g/ will take over. /fglt/ was the last good /g/ thread, next to all that consumer electronics trash. It's sad.

>>56339130
>>56339116
>>56339080
blame the arch kids

>>56339080
It's always the same people, for example the archfag that always posts this >>56339064 image.

>>56339116
Not true. I've gotten genuine help and delivered genuine help in /fglt/ threads still in the last few months.

We seem to get one good thread once a blue moon, though. I guess when the shitposters go do something else since they have ADHD and their attention span is short

>>56339076
Autism

>>56339043

You can get the theme directly from upstream. You don't have to rely on packages for your distribution, but packages are neater.

>GTK is a finicky beast.
You just have to make sure your theme works with the GTK version you have (only affects GTK3). Theming should become more stable now and there won't be "breakages". The most popular themes keep up with GTK updates, so it should work across updates.

>On the subject of themes, any other recommendations?
I prefer grey themes, with not much contrast. I hate Arc for the too high contrast between certain elements (black right next to pure white).
The Zuki-themes are my favourite (I use a tweaked Zukitre theme). There's also Greybird (slowly being updated to work with GTK 3.20), Numix (not a fan of the red highlight color), Paper GTK theme (not keeping up with development, might work with the latest version).

>>56339076
topkek it gets even better:

>>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way
>That's an unprotected page on the wiki, not an authoritative source on
>anything to do with the distribution.

All hopes and dreams are lost.

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>>56339080
I always wonder what it's like to be a newbie to linux, be eager for advice, come into this thread and basically see pic related. It saddens me.

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>>56339137
>>56339143
Aww debibabbies got mad

>>56339208
Why the fuck are you so obsessed with Debian? It's pathetic that I can recognize you because all you do is post the same images in every fucking thread. You obviously don't come here to learn or teach, is shitposting about Debian your job? I don't get it.

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>>56339186
>>56339076
well what did you expect...

>>56339162
Zukitre looks really nice.
Greybird looks a bit like pre-Yosemite Mac, which is also quite all right, but definitely preferring the look of Zukitre.
Numix has always been.. okay. And Paper is has a plus for making the Window decorations not too dark, but for some reason it wants to take up 20% of the screen space just to display its window decorations.

Now i3, that's easy to customize. Just add your own colors. Nothing in the way, everything available. That one is a treat for when you just want to do things.

What's a good reason to stop using Ubuntu

>>56339269
Why the fuck are you so obsessed with Arch? It's pathetic that I can recognize you because all you do is post the same images in every fucking thread. You obviously don't come here to learn or teach, is shitposting about Debian your job? I don't get it.

>>56339306
They're basically destroying the whole community by marketing Ubuntu as own OS and bringing it to Windows 10 so noboy needs to install any other GNU/Linux distro.

>>56339310
I don't do that. I don't care about the distro people choose to use because I'm not a pathetic man-child.

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>>56339297
>SJWs being triggerd by /a/
Is this supposed to be new?

>>56339306
There's no good reason to stop using Ubuntu.
But there can be personal reasons.

If something's bothering you about Ubuntu, then you can see if the problem lies with Ubuntu, and maybe another distribution does not have that problem.

>>56339310
stop crying deb queen, this is a friendly thread, we're giving friendly advice, mine is: install arch

>>56339306
It's for people who are too dumb for debian

>>56339306
I'd say the best one is a philosophical one. Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, is pretty shady. They advertise themselves as "Ubuntu" everywhere, not "Ubuntu Linux" or "Ubuntu GNU/Linux" or anything of the sort. They almost wish to separate themselves from the rest of the Linux world as the "human usable" linux, implying that everything else is not worth bothering with, or that it's harder. They also barely put manpower behind contributing in joint development projects, despite them being one of the distros that most take advantage of the work of others.

Basically: They wish to distance themselves from the community while simultaneously leeching off of people's work, almost don't contribute to upstream (specially proportionally to their userbase and workforce), and have been known to break user trust before (like with the old amazon unity debacle). Their bottom line is profit, which explains why it would make sense for them to partner with Microsoft. Their bottom line isn't the users or their freedom/privacy.

>>56339306

When an anonymous stranger on the internet tells you to and you're a naive, idiot, try-hard poser who doesn't know any better than to listen to him because he doesn't really plan or need to use a Linux distribution in the first place.

>>56339353
I'unno, it's not something that bothers me per se, it's just that I want to try other distros but I'm too dumb and lazy to learn how the different package managers work.

>>56339350
>making fun of dead people

>>56339306
Ubuntu is debian for dumb niggers

>>56339365
Most package managers are very similar, you won't have to learn much besides somewhat different syntax.

>>56339374
>making fun of people

>>56339365
Most distros have GUIs for their package managers if you prefer that.
Fedora by default uses the GNOME stuff all over, including the GNOME software tool or whatever it's called.
Manjaro developed its own interface to yaourt/pacman.

That way you can get up and running, explore the rest of the distribution and afterwards bother yourself with the dnf, pacman, what have you out there.

Antergos or Manjaro?

Can two people connect to a public Mumble server and have a private conversation?

>>56339473
If you can't install arch, install something else entirely.

>>56339473
Antergos, ideally

>>56339473
Antergos is basically just an installer, get Manjaro.
>>56339510
Friendly thread, Archbabbie.

>>56339518
What do you mean ideally?

>>56339519
>Antergos is basically just an installer

Isn't that the point if I want to run Arch?

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>mfw

>>56339546
Manjaro keyring updates, if somehow out of synced, you gotta trouble shoot to update your system. Manjaro is a week behind

>>56339551
See
>>56339199

>>56339519
he's right though, nothing rude in his post either

to add to his post, if you lean towards something like Manjaro you might be better of with Ubuntu's network installer which is mostly the same as the regular one but could give you the option to apt install your own things after it's completed

->
-> >>56339632
->

>>56329311
Look up glorious eggroll for a decent guide mayn.

>>56336704
It's not that. The exact same device and network gets 7MiB/s on Windows.
Different network managers didn't change anything.

>>56339865
I had a problem with slow wifi with a USB dongle a few years ago. As newer kernels were released it was finally fixed.

>>56338179
>Windows has been able to install updates
without rebooting for 10 years now
>>56338201
>windows only forces you to reboot for very important updates
No shit, GNU/Linux does the exact same thing you pleb. Kernel updates would be considered "important." You must be trolling to be this stupid.