/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

faglet, lol

Reminder to try Debian/Hurd. Hurd is the FSF kernel and there are other kernels than Linux like HiStar, which is a security kernel and Muen, proven to have no compile time errors, both are GPL.

There is also other full operative systems like FreeVMS, FreeDOS, and even ReactOS which are under the GPL. Even Plan 9 was re-licensed as GPL.

>>56213430
>proven to have no compile time errors
are you sure that's what you meant to write?
isn't the absence of compile-time errors necessary for getting an executable out of your code?

>>56213430
I'd recommend Linux-libre till Hurd is finished. Free from botnet and GPL.

>>56213476
Sorry, should have said runtime errors at the source code level.

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>>56213430
>proven to have no compile time errors,

>>56213517
How long till the HURD is finished? It's been, what, 25 years so far, so we should be almost there, right?

>>56213545
Got it, I'll go to sleep now.

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From last thread:
>>56213061
>What is the most polished/reliable/predictable distro these days?
>Should I just go for straight Debian?
Yes. Go for the "non-free including cd firmware" unless you can handle almost exclusively FOSS. Then just read the relevant wiki/manual pages. Probably upgrade to Testing or Sid after installing for newer packages.

Or I guess go Ubuntu for slightly more polish out of the box. There really isn't much of a difference between the two, but since Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable and almost encourages using 3rd party repositories, I think it's probably less reliable in the long run.

>>56213517
>till Hurd is finished
Any decade now

>>56213557
>>56213557
There is a difference between been usable and constantly be under development.

You can drop the meme now.

>>56213575
Ubuntu comes more polished out of the box, but it's more prone to errors in the long run, and upgrading from one version to the next doesn't work reliably.
Under the hood, Debian is the better system. My main gripe with it is that its designed mainly for server use, and if you go Testing/Unstable, you're officially unsupported by the devs (although even then it still is a more stable system than its derivatives like Ubuntu).

>>56213557
It's slow because a microkernel is pretty difficult to debug and they only have a bunch of developers. Current version is 0.8. It's already usable for testing tho, check the Debian GNU/Hurd port for live isos.

Reminder that linux is king.

>>56213704
Why not Queen?

fucking hell, I keep forgetting how to switch DEs

>>56213727
It's quite obviously male.

>>56213659
It's been obsoleted by history.
It was meant to complete GNU and turn it into a complete system. That was in the 1980's.
Now Linux has a global market share of >50% across all consumer devices and likely >90% across all chipsets.
Hurd will never be able to do anything Linux hasn't done 10 years prior, but it's still a nice hobbyist project, I guess.

>>56213730
what do you mean?
install them and pick them in your DM when you login.

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>>56213738
Is it?

>>56213775
Yes.
That is debian.

Opinion on OpenSUSE? Thinking of swapping from Ubuntu to it.

>>56213775
now that ian is dead they should rename debian into debbie

>>56213739
Well, technically Linux was obsolete at the day the development started since Linux is monolitic. (What?) Monolitc means that the kernel is one big thing doing all jobs at once, while Hurd is a set of small servers which do a few jobs individually. This results in better efficience and more speed. Microkernels are the future, but I agree that it will take some time.

Is something broken with plasma 5 activities? I'm trying to set programs to be exclusive to certain activities but the window rules always resets back to All Activities.

>>56213866
>Microkernels are the future, but I agree that it will take some time.
What is NT?

>>56213866
+h

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>>56213844
Oh, come on

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Using the terminal, how would I turn a string of space delimited bytes (given in binary) to ascii

e.g.
01111001 01101111 01110101
becomes "you"

>>56213918
perl or python

>>56213901
Spyware.

>>56213906
Yes, Arch is linux for lesbians. That in no way alters the gender of linux.

>>56213851
Don't.
It's as good as Ubuntu, but there really is no reason to swap. It serves the same purpose, has fewer users, a smaller repository, better German language support, better KDE support, better integrated GUI config tools and a different package manager that's weird in a different way than apt.

I use mint mate. I like fact that its lightweight and easy to use/find solutions or advice in web. Is there something better in terms of safety, stability, being lightweight without need to tweek everything very often?

>>56213866
Does Hurd have better efficiency and more speed than Linux, with comparable features? Cause theoretical advantages don't count in the real world.

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>>56213906

>>56214020
Safety, stability and being lightweight really aren't strong points of Mint. Almost every other distro beats it on all 3 counts.

Debian is very close to the top of the list for those characteristics, and you won't even have to learn a new package manager.

>>56214038
That terminal is fucking sexy.

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>>56213918
echo "obase=16;ibase=2;011110010110111101110101" | bc | xxd -r -p

>>56214038
>man sex

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>>56213517
the year of the hurd... sometime before jesus returns.

They say Linux is "lightweight" so I wonder if it'll be good to install on my old laptop?
It's running win7 right now and is slow as shit, will installing Linux help?

I'm using kubuntu 16.04 with backports ppa but I'm wondering if it would be better to add the neon ppa instead? How well does it work wwith kubuntu?

>>56213318
How to join that IRC?

>>56214274
dumb tripfag go away

>>56214275
This is Friendly Gnu Linux Thread, not Stupid Answers.

>>56214232
If you're forced out of Windows by bad performance, Xubuntu will probably be the right thing for you.

>>56214274
Install Gentoo.

I'm hacking the FBI and i need to directely manage the uplink from that IRC.

>>56213864
>now that ian is dead they should rename debian into debbie
Or, Deadian.

This name fits better with their stable release cycle.

>>56214340
Don't cut yourself on that edge.

>>56214369
I'm a Debian user, and cut myself regularly.

>>56214414
I thought you were far away from any cutting edge.

>>56214340
Is Mummy Linux still open or already taken?

>>56214458
your mummy was taken a long time ago my son

>>56214312
I thought you would recommend something like Arch, after all I've read about it.

>>56214504
Are you a Lesbian? See
>>56213906
>>56213775

How stable is Debian Sid?
Assuming I use it for normal desktop use and update it regularly, how often can I expect things to break on their own?
Running Arch at the moment and it's stable enough for me, but I really want to go back home to Debian, but keep the rolling release.

Is Sid more or less stable than Arch?

>>56213575
>non-free including cd firmware
Thanks. I'm still on OS X as main OS, but have been running Linux on my laptop for years now. Before I switch over completely, I want a nice system.

>>56213557
More like 5 active years.

>>56214504
I run Arch myself, but it really doesn't offer anything special that makes the retarded installation worthwhile.
There's nothing on Arch you can't do on other distros, and a fresh Arch install is both bigger, and more loaded with unnecessary stuff than an Ubuntu Netinstall.

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>>56214604
>ubuntu

>>56214604
>loaded with unnecessary stuff
Like?

So I installed some kernels for testing and accidently uninstalled my current kernel when I removed the others. Is it enough to reinstall linux-image?

>>56214531
>Is Sid more or less stable than Arch?
sid user here and have had very little trouble with it in 5 years on my desktop.

only time i've had issues have usually been down to my own fault for doing dist-upgrades to bring in held back packages.

i moved to sid from testing due to the fact that testing seemed to get very unstable around package freeze time - i guess devs rushed to make last minute changes and didn't test enough.

arch is okay but it's really a desktop os due to the fact they fuck around too much with the core system, debian (apart from systemduh) has had little change.

so for me it would be debian

if i had to go arch then manjaro might be my goto, instant desktop and slightly less bleeding edge kinda on par with sid.

>>56214730
botnet modules

Gentoo is the best
Install Gentoo

>>56214730
>development headers for every single package on your system
>packages compiled with every available option by default
>no distinction between recommended and needed dependencies, it just installs them all

>>56214765
idk, check inside /boot and see if you can find your kernel listed among the files there?

Is debian small instalation image a stable version? Should i get small version or complete one?

>>56214820
Checked it and everything looks like before after reinstalling linux-image-generic. Just want to know if I need to do further steps, pretty new to the kernel playground.

>>56214805
How is that saying anything about what's on a fresh Arch install vs. a fresh Ubuntu Netinstall?

Is it practical to use a 150GB Linux partition as the main OS on a HDD that also has Windows on it?

>>56214857
>I can't read

>>56214796
>only time i've had issues have usually been down to my own fault for doing dist-upgrades to bring in held back packages.
I thought dist-upgrade was the normal, supported way of doing things?

>>56214851
If you haven't rebooted in the meantime, there is nothing else to do. You removed a package, then reinstalled the same one. All the entries in Grub etc, are still there.

>>56214851
Well your package manager probably did it for you, but you can always update grub as a final step ('sudo update-grub' on debian and i think ubuntu too) to be on the safe side. Look at its' output and confirm all your kernels are listed.

>>56214805
i heard about that on arch you need to take careabout all dependencies and installing packages is harder than other distros, is that right?

>>56214879
normal upgrade is the supported way of doing things.

dist-upgrade has the potential of breaking things by forcibly updating held-back packages, which are held back when some other installed packages are listed as dependant on the previously installed version, but not the new one.

>>56214857
Read my post again.
Then read your question again.
Then if things still aren't clear, forget what I said and go read a comic or something.

>>56214765
assuming debian and 64bit cpu then,

sudo apt install linux-image-amd64

will get the current kernel

>>56214902
>update-grub
Found 1 kernel. Guess I'm okay?

>>56214878
>>56214935
You know, a comparison in this case would have to include things like which extra packages distro A has vs distro B, not some general greentexting shit.

>>56214941
Aight, version is the same as the one from an old screenfetch screenshot.

Thanks all.

>>56213318
I have been using VLC for music playback since I switched to linux, but it's annoying and the audio quality is actually worse than with my other devices, and weird things occur where they normally don't.

Can you recommend a good music player for Arch?
Preferrably something along the lines of Foobar2000, I love the simple folder view and customizable layout.
Really top priority is Folder view.

Thanks in advance!

>>56214917
No to both. Arch is a distro like any other.
It's defining characteristics are:

>no official installer (which is retarded IMO), so you have to install it using several different command line tools
>rolling release, which gives you up to date packages and changes your system over time instead of in one chunk once a year or so
>official repos don't include graphical system configuration tools. You're expected to edit text files for configuration.
>it has a very limited selection of software in the official repos, but it integrates a user-maintained, unsecured, unofficial repo based on source code packages very tightly and well.

>>56214974
Usually mpd+ncmpcmpcmpcmpcmppp. Deadbeef looks a bit like foobar. I personally just use mpv.

>>56214974
>>56214974
cmus
or
mpd + ncmpcpp

>>56214974
take a look here for ideas,

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Audio

>>56214959
No, a valid comparison would include an identical list of software you want and the size on disc both systems need to provide that.
And according to an Arch dev, Arch needs more space:

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>56214998
>>official repos don't include graphical system configuration tools.
Wait, what?

>>56215009
>Deadbeef
underrated

Do you think devs of any distro browse /fglt/?

What's a nice bitmap font for moonrunes?

List of /fglt/ approved distributions:
>Funtoo
>Slackware
>gNewSense
>Haiku
>Alpine
>Puppy

If you need systemd:
>Debian
>Gentoo

If you want something out of the box:
>Calculate Linux
>Ubuntu
>Manjaro
>Linux Lite

If you're hardcore and want to prove yourself:
>LFS

If you want to be an edgelord while simultaneously being the laughing stock of the Linux community:
>Arch
>Antergos

If you want to be a living meme and a lab rat:
>Fedora

If you've finally realized that Linux is shit:
>*BSD

>>56215081
wenquanyi bitmap song

>>56215060
Most likely.
There has to be a few devs that browse 4chan.
If they browse 4chan, they know about /g/.
If they know about /g/ then they would eventually find /fglt/
Then they probably shill their own distro while shitposting on others

>>56215090
>Alpine
drop it to the arch and antergos category
>Slackware
drop it to the LFS cat

also: gentoo doesn't force systemd on you, you can use any init

>>56215090
>recommends Manjaro
>Arch and Antergos are shit though
cool it with the may-mays

>>56214998
Not really, official repos offer GUI tools for tweaking and changing settings for example the standard tools that come in big DEs like gnome or cinnamon and also tools for WMs like openbox

>>56215090
whats systemd?

>>56215132
he's right tho
>>56215141
a software suit, soon a operating system

>>56215136
Of course it includes the DE's tools.
But no distro-specific GUI tools for managing updates, packages and sources like OpenSuse, Debian, Mint and Ubuntu have.

>>56215034
>software you want
No, the comparison was about fresh installs. You could argue that comparing that is stupid, but take it to the other Anon who started it.

As for your source, there are 2 things related to space
>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare
compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional
whenever possible.

This could indeed cause additional space needed, but is it really relevant to a fresh install?

>Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module
available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat
related cost

This claims it's non-bloat.

>>56215158
is that bad?
does debian use it by default?

...but at least we're using linux so we're all friends, right?

>>56215131
is systemd bad?

>>56215196
>a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost
This means they enable everything unless it leads to problems other than bloat.
He literally states they don't care about bloat, only about non-bloat related costs.

>>56215200
>is that bad?
It's free software, so "good/bad" is basically subjectiv.
>does debian use it by default?
Yes, they had a voting and pro-systemd won. The other part created Devuan.

>>56215202
if you don't use one of the recommended ones mentioned here >>56215090 we have nothing to talk

>>56215232
which distros dont use systemd and are lightweight and stable?

>>56215200
Not really. It's controversial for reasons a new user won't understand nor needs to care about.

tl/dr; every modern/popular distro including Debian now uses systemd, devs think it's better than what was used before, and many people believe it goes against the "philosophy" behind Linux and will lead to problems, but none of these problems have really surfaced yet (after 4 years).

>>56215232
>voting
Something Arch users can only dream of.

>>56215257
Devuan, Slackware, Funtoo.

>>56214531
About the same, make sure to have apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges installed and read the wiki article on unstable.

>>56215090
>Gentoo uses systemd
It uses OpenRC

>>56215257
Manjaro also offers OpenRC spins.

>>56214928
On sid, dist-upgrade is the right way.

>>56215257
Arch with OpenRC, gentoo, debian with systemd removed ( http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation )
, slackware, void and some other memes mentioned in the /fglt/ approved distros

>>56215090
>Slackware
why would anyone use a distro which doesn't even have a package manager?

>>56215259
What

>>56215309
Because there is no package manager trying to force evil systemd on you.

>>56215322

Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users
has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there
aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are
made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity.

t. arch dev

>>56215309
Well, some people do use windows.

>>56215337
>arch dev
What are your contributions?

>>56215339
kek

>>56215339
How horrible. I completly forgot about that lol.

top kek, just saw this thread: >>56215397
>the new systemd victim: mount

>>56215258
isnt it (systemd) risky in terms of safety?

>>56215356

He corrected a typo on the Wiki.

>>56215337
You try to make it sound like this was bad

>>56215435
Just like anything has a risk.

>>56215337
>implying anyone but arch developers use arch linux

>>56215435
Unless you can point to a specific security risk that's present, can't be patched, and wasn't there in SysV Init, I'm going with "no".

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Im on ubuntu and im having installing cava
https://github.com/karlstav/cava
Its seeps the ppa is outdated
Any idea on how to install it manually im very new

>>56215503

download and unzip archive, e.g. in /home/cava-master
Then:

sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libncursesw5-dev libpulse-dev
cd /home/cava-master
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
make install

Disclaimer: Don't just copy terminal commands you don't understand from 4chan and run them.

>>56215612
Thanks for the advice
But when i type ./autogen this comes up any idea

What are some GNU alternatives to Adobe Illustrator for web design?

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so bash aliases are just "shortcuts"?

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>>56215612
forgot pic

>>56215690
No, they are aliases.
I can alias "ls" to "goddamnanonthisisnotevenshorter" if I really want

>>56215702
Your system is missing the entire build toolchain.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo

>>56215702
you need libtool and autoconf and automake

They might all be in a package called automake or autoconf

I don't use Linux as I prefer Windows which Just Werks

>>56215431

Kill yourself, but read this first so you don't die as an idiot >>56215734.

>>56215747
go away
Windows lacks the entire infrastructure to build from source by default.

>>56215752
>friendly
kek

>>56215728

so that's the use
to shortcut long command lines

>>56215762
>go away
>telling the guy that told you how to build your memesoftware to go away

>>56213318
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
Manjaro

>>56215795
I don't understand this post and it makes me angry.

>>56215762
Are you drunk? Sure you can build from source on Windows.

>>56215812
Not on a default install.

>>56215812
Not by default, mong.

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>>56215702
give me that anime tiddies

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>>56215826
>>56215824
Right, because clearly your Ubuntu is ready to build software out of the box.

Intellectual checkmate, nignogs.

BTW if you get it to build you'll be so green that you won't know how to run it after you install it because it will install to /usr/local. That's all the hint I'll even give you because you're an awful poster that deserves no help.

>>56215824
>>56215826
What's a default install?

>>56215903
>install any non-shit GNU distribution
>immediately after have access to gcc

>install windows
>no compiler until you get one

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>>56215747
Nothing to be done
i wish i knew i understood this
>>56215849
do you mean the wallpaper

>>56215963
What kind of shitty distro forces a compiler on you if you never go to compile on it anyway?

Trying to make mpd work but I get errors I DDG tells me nothing about.

ninegag ~ # rc-service mpd start
 * Caching service dependencies ...
   [ ok ]
 * /etc/init.d/net.wlp3s0 uses runscript, please convert to openrc-run.
 * Bringing up interface wlp3s0
 *   Starting wpa_supplicant on wlp3s0 ...
Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
ctrl_iface exists and seems to be in use - cannot override it
Delete '/var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlp3s0' manually if it is not used
anymore
Failed to initialize control interface 'DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
GROUP=wheel'.
You may have another wpa_supplicant process already running or the file
was
left by an unclean termination of wpa_supplicant in which case you will
need
to manually remove this file before starting wpa_supplicant again.

nl80211: deinit ifname=wlp3s0 disabled_11b_rates=0
 *   start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant'
   [ !! ]
 * ERROR: net.wlp3s0 failed to start
 * /etc/init.d/net.wlp3s0 uses runscript, please convert to
   openrc-run.
 * Bringing up interface wlp3s0
 *   Starting wpa_supplicant on wlp3s0 ...
Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
ctrl_iface exists and seems to be in use - cannot override it
Delete '/var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlp3s0' manually if it is not
used anymore
Failed to initialize control interface
'DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel'.
You may have another wpa_supplicant process already running
or the file was
left by an unclean termination of wpa_supplicant in which
case you will need
to manually remove this file before starting wpa_supplicant
again.

nl80211: deinit ifname=wlp3s0 disabled_11b_rates=0
 *   start-stop-daemon: failed to start
     `/usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant'
     [ !! ]
 * ERROR: net.wlp3s0 failed to start
 * ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.wlp3s0 would not
   start
 * Starting Music Player Daemon ...
   [ !! ]
 * ERROR: mpd failed to start

What do?

>>56215309
It has a package manager.

>>56216014
mpd &

>>56216044
>It has a package manager.
Dropped

>>56216050
Then is the Gentoo wiki just retarded?

>>56216044
A shitty one that can't even handle deps

>>56215970
>i wish i knew i understood this
You can use a search engine to see what this stuff means, you know.

That might not be a bad thing, it's possible there was nothing to be done for the make target install-data-am. Did you look to see if /usr/local/bin/cava exists? It looks like it installed it there if you just read what it says.

BTW since you seem actually just ignorant I will let your rudeness from earlier slide.

(you may want to reconfigure with ./configure --prefix=/usr so that you don't have to add /usr/local/bin to your PATH or type out the full path every time you want to use this software)

So is there a guide out there on how to set up and use mpd+ncmpcpp for retards who don't know what they're doing? Because I would sure love to see it.

>>56213723
trying to reinstall ubuntu from the same usb i'm running on now causes eternal loading and then freezing

send help

>>56215090
So what if I'm using openSUSE ?

>>56216159
1. Install SMplayer/Clamentine
2. Move on with your life

>>56215090
Kill yourself stupid piece of shit, no one cares about your garbage blog

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Hey guys, what distro should I install?
>something pretty
>lightweight
>no screen tear
>decent driver compatibility

>>56216201
rude and not very friendly

>>56216159
>So is there a guide out there
Probably, why don't you go and search the web?

In Debian, should I use the --no-install-recommends option or not? Or just sometimes?

>>56216215
Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch mini + GNOME.

>>56216159
I've never understood why people have such a hard time with mpd.

~/.mpd/mpd.conf

music_directory                 "/home/jordan/music"
playlist_directory              "/home/jordan/music/playlists"
db_file                         "/home/jordan/.mpd/mpd.db"
log_file                        "/home/jordan/.mpd/mpd.log"
error_file                      "/home/jordan/.mpd/mpd.error"
pid_file                        "/home/jordan/.mpd/mpd.pid"
user                            "jordan"

bind_to_address                 "localhost"
port                            "6600"

audio_output 
{
     type                    "alsa"
     name                   "My ALSA Device"
}
mixer_type                      "software"

Make sure all the files you list in your mpd.conf exist

mkdir -p ~/.mpd/playlists
touch ~/.mpd/{mpd.db,mpd.log,mpd.error,mpd.pid}

Make sure all you're mpds are dead then restart it

killall -9 mpd
mpd

Update your database (I use mpc)

mpc update

Then run mpc a few times until it shows it's done updating
Now ncmpcpp will Just Werk

I literally don't understand what is so hard about reading the mpd.conf file and changing values. It's very well documented

>>56216244
>Arch
nice meme

>>56216271
Fuck off
>>>/b/

>>56216271
>>56216244
Is arch actually a meme?

>>56216159
man mpd
man ncmpcpp

I'm using ncmpc and I put up the alias

alias music='killall mpd; mpd; ncmpc -c'

ncmpcpp I assume to be used similarly.
when I add new stuff to my ~/Music directory, I delete the ~/mpd/mpd.db file and relaunch mpd, because I don't know what I'm doing either and killing and rewriting the database seems easier than reading up on how to update it.

then in ncmpc you press 1 for help and go from there.
the usual procedure i follow is
>press 2 to see if there's a playlist left from last time I used ncmpc
>if so, press c to clear it (works on any tab of ncmpc)
>press 3 to browse my music and select the directory whose contents I want to listen to
>with the folder selected, press a to append it to the empty playlist
>switch to the playlist with 2 and hit enter to start playing it from the selected song and onwards.

>>56216295
No, Some salty newfags that couldn't install Arch

>>56216308
>killall
why? just disable the daemon

>>56216308
>when I add new stuff to my ~/Music directory, I delete the ~/mpd/mpd.db file and relaunch mpd, because I don't know what I'm doing either and killing and rewriting the database seems easier than reading up on how to update it.

mpc update

That's all it takes to update it, or pressing the u button in ncmpocmpcmpcmppcpp

>>56216244
>gnome
nice meme

>>56216314
This is why nobody likes Arch users.

>>56216336
See >>56216293

>>56216352
not an argument

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>>56216343

Where is the desktop thread gone? Anyone knows? Missing my buddies.

>>56216362
not an argument

Is icecat still a shit?

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>>56216378
desktop threads banned from /g/
>picture related imo

>>56216343
this

>>56216378
in the trash where it belongs

>>56216395
Aww. Why? Did they move to another board or is it completly dead?

If I use a text browser that can't accept javascript, can the botnet still track me like it does behind the scenes?

Does anyone have experience setting up compton?

It works great and all, except for the fact that window dragging is stupidy choppy. Every time a new window opens and I try to drag it, it is slow and choppy and takes too long to become smooth.

I am using openbox/kde.

>>56216396
>>56216343

>>56215090
>>56215233

If you have to samefag this hard you should know when to stop embarrassing yourself

>>56216410
Go to >>>/w/ and >>>/wsg/ if you want desktop threads.

>>56216410
It isn't banned. Some retard started like 30 desktop threads, people went to /qa/, then /desktop thread/ got wordfiltered to autosage.

>>56216410
Other boards have desktop threads and some of the weeb posters moved there (/w/ and /wg/) but really we just have underground desktop threads now. We can't use the term desktop thread because it will autosage but if you have a keen eye you can find the current desktop thread.

>>56216428
Whoops, not /wsg/, I meant to link to >>>/wg/

>>56216429
Mods manually set desktop threads they find to autosage or sometimes delete them outright.

>>56216410
I've seen a few on /trash/, but there were very few desktops and a lot of shitposting.
I'm not glad desktop threads are dead, but I'm glad they're gone.

>>56216465
to be honest, I'd rather deal with some anime trash and nice desktops than with speccy and gpu garbage

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>>56216465
I'm not, now all the desktop thread posters are in other threads and they still post desktops.

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Anyone using HPN-SSH?
https://github.com/rapier1/hpn-ssh

I need help compiling

>>56216014
Did you set mpd's pid file?

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>>56216488
Damn, I miss /dekstops/. ;_;

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>>56216095
Thanks for all your help works just fine
Also how was i rude

>>56216522
>how was i rude
Well I suppose I made an assumption that this was your post >>56215762

Just because I'm not retarded enough to use Linsux/free software doesn't mean I don't know how to use it

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>>56216375
english, do you speak it?

>>56216536
>trolling is art guys

>>56216536
Oh that wasn't me big fella i believe people can have there own opinions

>>56216573
ok dude

>>56216503
I have it working, thanks to the AUR. You could look at the pkgbuild in the AUR site

>>56216579
Everybody hates namefags, stop posting.

answer this please
>>56216328

(alternatives to cryptcat)

>>56216623
You're free to filter him

So I really want to install arch but I need file on my Windows 7 partition, what I did was give 80 gigs of my 1 hd and split it with Windows 7 and my question is will it detect the unallocated space or do I risk losing my Windows 7 (which I can't lose)

>>56216628
prism-break.org

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>ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

>>56216653

what do you mean?

>>56216650
Make a file system fromthe unallocated space. Dont mount the windows 7 partition during installation. You should be okay

>>56216675
You asked for alternatives, I gave you a link to a site that lists them.

>>56216650
shrinking an existing windows partition is standard procedure when installing a gnu/linux distribution for dual booting.
there are always risks when fucking around with partitions, but I've never encountered any problems.

Most guides recommend booting into windows once or twice after the linux installation is finished so windows can repair its partition.

if you try to shrink a full (as in filled with data) partition you will be suffering though.

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>>56216699

You seriously thought that this shitty normie consumerist site offered an alternative to a niche commandline tool?

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kek I am going to install void w/systemd

>>56216790
epic

Would anyone like a pastebin of >>>/t/713097

Are there any freedom respecting web proxies to use?

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>>56216819
yes please

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>>56216813
*cheers, gentlemen*
To la void

>>56216844
please don't use my picture without permission

What distro do I use if I'm a heretic who doesn't care that the software I'm using is proprietary, I just want linux security and control.

>>56216819
no

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>>56216863
It's cool my monsterbro

>>56216886
any distro you want.
stay away from the FSF approved ones, they remove tons of proprietary drivers without replacing them with free ones.

If you have to ask about which distro to use you're probably new, though, so I recommend you use any ubuntu spinoff (NOT Ubuntu itself), Debian or Fedora.

Except your instructions are shit and doesn't actually work.

I don't know what versions of mpd has support for the "error_file" entry, but mine didn't recognize that entry.

The { needs to be on the same line as audio_output, seperated by a space, or mpd can't parse the config file.

I don't know how mpd behaves on your system, but the one in debian/jessie can't intialize mpd.db on its' own, it'll just complain about the database being corrupt if your mpd.db file was only just touch'd. That can be fixed though, just grab a working database file from somewhere like the one that /etc/mpd.conf points at and rename that to mpd.db

Of course that last bit, along with the error_file thing, could just be outdated software on debian/jessie, but what do i know.

Oh and mpd appears to crash silently when it scans my music library. mpc update handles a folder with a single mp3 just fine, but my actual music library crashes it after ~1-2 seconds (as mpd stops running soon after giving the mpc update command).

It seems like a lot of work compared to just using Rythmbox or something, especially for a single user single desktop system.

>>56216951
>Except your instructions are shit
please leave. this is a friendly thread.
people went out of their way to help you and if you're going to be a bitch about it you're free to leave.

>>56216841
For you senpai
http://pastebin.com/9fMJAgMY

any advice before i start using linux-git from the AUR?

kinda want the better performance i've seen some cards get, and not use the proprietary drivers is a bonus too

>>56216979
>linux-git
get linix-zen

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>>56216971
thanks anon

>>56216933
Ubuntu is literally "I don't care about freedom, just cuck my shit up, but not as bad as MS or Apple pls", the distro.

>>56216997
Ubuntu is the better debian

>>56216933
I have another question.

Will I have any problems with compatibility if I'm using AMD hardware?

>>56216997
which is what that anon was asking for.
I'm with you on this, ubuntu is shit, but I'm not going to recommend arch or gentoo to someone who has never touched the bourne shell

>>56217019
your CPU should definetly be fine.
I never used a GPU besides my laptop's integrated one on Linux, so I can't say how the drivers are, but it should at the very least work for everyday applications.
If you want videogames, look into GPU pass-through to a Windows VM, or if you truly want to defenestrate, you'll have to look for linux drivers or switch to Nvidia, which has better drivers on linux, as I heard.

>>56217062
Alright, thanks anon.

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please help me

I'm running Proxmox VE 4.2-2 and I can't figure out where to get templates for containers
anyone know where?

>>56217191
permissions probably

>>56217191
CPPFLAGS="-L /usr/include/boost" ./configure --prefix=/usr

or you can maybe set that flag inside the configure script itself too

Guys, which distro do you recommend me if i don't want to get fucked by updates?. I'm terrified by the idea of spend hours configuring my OS and then an update comes along and screws everything.

By the way, i'm a total noob at Linux. I have heard that some Ubuntu variations are pretty stable, is that true.

>>56217298
Debian, it literally never gets updates. It's like 5 years old at any given time.

How do I restart networking in arch linux? There is like a million different commands in the arch wiki?

>>56217330

su -c "init 6"

easiest way imo

>>56217320
Why are you so stupid? And why are you trying to show it everyone?
>what is Sid

I wished trip and namefags would stop raping these threads...

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>>56217359
>Why are you so stupid?
desu I blame the pussification of America. Growing up I was always told I was smart/almost a genius so I never tried hard at anything since it was so easy. Now, as an adult I'm basically just a child in a man's body.

>why are you trying to show it everyone?
Got nowhere else to go ever since desktop threads got banned.

Are KDE users the Arch users of DEs?

>>56217411
No.

>>56217411
in terms of
>the first rule about the club is: tell everyone about the club
yes

I'd been using Gnome on Arch for quite a while, but recently I tried i3 and have grown to love it quite a bit. I still have Gnome installed and want to remove it. What's the best way to go about doing this? I've been using GDM to set the i3 session and I'm under the impression that uninstalling Gnome would remove that and I'd have to set up something else?

Please help friendly linux users...

>>56217433
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME
Do the reverse of the installation part.

>>56217411
What's wrong with Arch and KDE?

Linux has come a long way in the past few years, playing with Ubuntu on my HTPC (least 'critical' PC i have) and i have to admit, i'm mighty impressed at how everything works out of the box, and any solution is just a google away.

Everything is pretty great aside from gaming, which i never expected to be. Maybe if some bigger name distributions could attempt some form of advertising it might just tempt people away from Windows 10 with all the negativity surrounding it.

>>56217330
Did you install network manager?

>>56217467
I mean no offense, but that isn't particularly helpful at all.

Using the stock kernel, i get the following error:

WARNING: errors were encountered during the build. The image may not be complete.

I'm using the stock config and config.x86_64

>>56217632
Just a warning

>>56217549
It tells you how to install gnome, if you remove what it tells you to install and then remove any unneeded dependencies then you will be rid of gnome. But hey, don't listen to unhelpful little old me. If you still want gdm then install it explicitly.

>>56217632
Oh, and by the way: FUCK YOU.

Also, I suck big fat cocks. I prefer them hairy and far, far up my anus. I want Stallman inside of me and I also want to rape and murder him.

>>56217788
rude as hell
Did you read the OP's post about being friendly?

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was dumb enough to make a new thread for this instead of posting in this thread right away, so here I go again

How exactly is SSD over-provisioning handled in Linux?

Is it necessary to perform some extra configurations, intentionally leave some unpartitioned space or simply do nothing and just trim/discard.

>>56217433
sudo pacman - Rs gnome

>>56217963
Rns

>>56217953
You dont have to do anything to it.

>>56217953
http://www.tech-g.com/2015/06/13/over-provisioning-ssd-in-linux/

>>56217632

its probably because you're a fucking pleb. go back to osx pls.

>>56217411
no because kde is actually the objective best de, while arch is a timesink meme

>>56217997
I see, thank you.

Any clue on trim vs over-partitioning?
I am still not really clear on that.

I read for example that trim is not needed with enough op on the drive, but on the other hand with trim it basically uses the whole free space on it as some kind of dynamic op?

Is terminator the best terminal emulator?

>>56218629
not in my opinion

>>56218659
I want a terminal emulator lightweight, very customizable, and easy to read.

>>56218671
urxvt? It's the most commonly used one I believe.

>>56218713
I tried it, but didn't really like it. I'll give it another try and read more into documentation about ricing it.

>>56218737
What didn't you like about it?

>>56218814
I found it ugly and text was a bit difficult to read. I'll admit I bailed it too quickly and give it another try.

So I just installed Debian Unstable and XFCE4.

Why is there 2 imagemagick's in my start menu, why does one of them have no icon, and how do I get rid of it? Side question: I want touch to tap for my touchpad, but the option isn't there.

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>>56218859
Here's a picture to help.

>>56218859
>>56218919
Do either of them work?
You might have a spare desktop laying around, or you manually associated it

>>56218977
>Do either of them work?
No, I think you're right about them being dead desktop files. Where are those on Debian? I can't find it very easily searching.

>>56217240
>>56217256
I'm rather new to Linux. How do I do this?

>>56213318
I'm getting a weird issue related to my screen having issues with a certain display mode. It assumes the resolution is in 50hz interlaced. I've tried using xrandr -s 0, as well as nvidia metamode settings to reset it, but it doesn't seem to work. I also tried forcing it in xorg.conf, but that didn't do anything different. I get to my DM just fine, but booting into a DE at all just puts my monitor in this loop of turning on and off on a black screen.

>>56219023
/usr/share/applications/

Whenever I use sudo-apt or whatever, I'm always asked for my password. How do I change it so it doesn't ask for my password?

>>56219124
add the program you want to sudoers

>>56219124
same thing for uninstalling stuff with the software manager

>>56219040
nvm fixed it ;)

It was an issue with my DE forcing display settings that apparently had higher priority over other settings.

>>56214875
yeah

I'm getting this error on my terminal.
E: Could not open lock file /var/liv/dpkg/lock - open 13: Permission denied
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) are you root?

How do I fix this? I'm trying to install stuff with apt-get

>>56219392
>are you root?
Well?

>>56219392
did you sudo today?

I moved to debian from windows 10.

Is this pure gnu/linux if I leave out nonfree repo?

/fglt/ I need your help
I've been trying to install linux using a USB but I can't, sometimes the computer will freeze while booting up from the USB, I've tried diferent distros and diferent ways to write it.
Do you think the USB is the problem?

Anybody running the 4.7 kernel in Manjaro KDE having chromium lock up after coming back from your screen turning off and the lock screen coming up? It would become totally unresponsive where I would have to kill 9 it

I was running this kernel and having this issue Ive switched back to the LTS recommended one (4.4.17-1) and it seems that it may have fixed it...

>>56219732
Depends, have you tried installing from a different USB?

>>56219627
wat

What search engine respects my freedom? searx.me? startpage.com? Which?

----------------------------------------------> >>56219791

>>56219768
Nope not yet
That is the next thing I'm going to try

>>56219795
searx is the only one I know of which provides source code, doesn't mean that the servers run the same code, but well. there are also TOR services, check their github

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>GNU/Linux
>not Linux
and then people wonder why everybody laughs at you autists