/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>56197154

SHP9500, Canadian prices are stupid.

>>56197236
Nice thread newfag.

>>56197394
What's wrong with the thread?

>>56197420
All hpg threads must start with weeb images.

Just in case you were wondering what a respectable Full-Size Open Wall of Fame should look like:
K612
HE-400i
SR-207
Elear
Ether (not the new mud edition)
Edition X

>>56198111
>no DT880 or HD600

kys

Is there a recommended buyer guide for earbuds?

>>56197236

http://pastebin.com/RWr2ACs2

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

reminder that buying any headphone other than HD600/HD650 is a bad investment.

>>56198177
post it in the thread if you want replies

>Budget
up to 200£
>Location
UK
>Source
xperia x performance
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear, wireless
>Open or closed
preferably closed, don't mind open though
>Comfort level
at least 8/10, very important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, wide soundstage
>Past headphones
Sony mdr10rc, Sony mdr1

>>56198327
>xperia x performance
>wireless
Don't you have to have Sony headphones to get the lossless audio otherwise it's regular crap bluetooth audio?

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Oh what the FUCK: Tyll removed my headphones from wall of fame! Bass extension my ass. I'll shove something up his if they aren't back by noon. Ever since his transformation to an overgrown dwarven druid he's been eager to cast garbage articles about everything new and trendy in audiophool town. Probably studies stars to know what to shill next after readying another bullshit article about square waves to cover "response" issue and reap credibility from his herd. Better send some shrooms and forest flowers to aid tweaking his power conditioner altar for SR-009 re-re-evaluation

t. damned HD 800 owner

>>56198217
>Brainwavz stand

You fucked up Japanese shill-kun.

Headphones or speakers? Which are the master race?

>>56198655
Speakers obviously.

>>56198217
>sony
enjoy your high noise floor, high distortion and high output impedance.

Sony really has no idea what they are doing when they make high end audio products like most Japanese manufactures

>implying anyone needs purchasing advice

Just get a pair of Shure SE315s and be done with it

>>56198690
>Shure SE315s

uncomfortable AF

>>56198664
speakers if you have several thousand euro/dollars/pounds to spend

>>56198720
I find near-total isolation pretty comfy desu senpai

>tfw 40% volume on a busy street

>>56198730
My speakers only costed me $1400.

Sound better than any of my headphones but I don't use them much.

>>56198730
*Hundreds
Whic is about the same as all these faggots spend on their memephones which "need" dedicated dacs and amps.

/hpg/ - Headfi 2

>>56198794
post your setup

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> Budget
100 USD, flexible.

> Location
Turkey, but through Amazon. Stores here are rarely any cheaper.

> Source
Microsoft Lumia 950 and Surface Pro 4. 3.5mm jack.

> Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds like Apple's EarPods.
Microphone is a must.
Also need volume control (should work with Lumia 950) and playback control (play/pause, would be awesome if it had next/previous, too).

> Comfort level
Should really be comfortable for even 1-2 hours of continuous use.

> Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.

> Past headphones
Currently use Apple's EarPods. Contrary to everybody else, I find them quite comfortable. They fit in my ear perfectly and rarely ever slip out.

Only downside is that the volume control does not work with anything else than Apple's stuff, and I need to control volume on my Lumia 950.

I also use Sony's MDR-7506 at home, enjoy how it sounds.

>>56198794
>>56198818
he'll never answer this post

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>>56198818
Under 200 uk bucks

are the HD 700 worth the extra money when compared with the HD 600's?

I've got a DT880 right now and it feels like either I side-grade to HD 600 or similar or 'upgrade' to the HD 700's which are absolutely the most i'm willing to spend on headphones.

I have found a pair of philips shp9500 for $75 CAN. Is this a good deal? I have personaly never tried them

>>56199326
>DT880
What Ohms?

>>56199363
600

>>56199390
What amp/DAC?

>>56199422
focusrite 8i6 to uk built O2 amp

>>56199326
HD 700 are worse than both.
EQ your headphones and stop wasting money on shit you don't need.

>>56199326
You don't upgrade from DT880 level.

HD700 is dogshit.

HD600 is a slightly fixed DT880 but not worth buying if you've already got a DT880.

>>56199439
>>56199442
cheers lads. i'll have a rethink about this whole thing.

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What small form speakers would you guys recommend?

No speaker thread so might as well post here.

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>>56199554

Who Philips Fidelio master race here?

I have both the X2s and the IEMs. They're both great.

>>56199328
>not buying sennheiser hd558 or hd518 with readily available spare parts
Good luck with getting help with philips replacement parts!

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>>56199594

>>56199655
HD518 owner here.

When the pads wear out can you put on hd558/598 pads on it and is it worth it?

>Budget
50€
>Location
EU
>Source
xperia z2
>Preferred type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
good
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
Sony XBA-C10

>>56199697
Go to Sennheiser's Spare Parts online store.
Example http://service.sennheiser.com.au/consumer/products/hifi-and-tv-headphones/hd-518

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Is this bashing on wireless a new meme?
>>56192592

>>56199877
it's one guy

>>56200020
So the bluedio headphones are fine?

I don't need $2000 audiophile tier shit, just decent sounding budget Bluetooth earphones.

If it doesn't sound like its behind a wall I'm happy.

>>56200020
Keep wishing that.

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>>56198217
>:
Remimding that MB integrated realtek is better than outdated shit in any 2k$ DAC. Spend all your money on where it matters

can you recommend me a cheap but good mobile amp so i could use my 250 Ohm DT770 with my S3 mini and still get the same audio quality & volume levels like at my desktop?

>>56200170
>this is what you're paying for when you buy a hd800

>>56197443
Ignore this retard, OP image is fine

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>>56200421

>>56200476
If you want anime you could always visit >>>/a/

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Somewhat unrelated but people here might have experience with this.

I'm not that into audio. I have pic related. I want to listen to audio from two computer monitors at the same time with one pair of headphones. Could I just grab a cable that splits the audio into left and right channels, plug it into the monitor headphone jacks, and have the signals sent through the mixer line ins? If not, how would I set this up?

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yo /g/
I recently got a AKG K501 from my uncle for free yeeey (pic related but not mine)

I have 2 output sources which can make it go loud enough(laptop on board sound and sansa clip+)
Other sources (mp3 players,laptops,PC with realtek dac) cant drive it up to normal sound levels.

It only sounds good on classical music,any other genre sounds crap.

Ive lurked around the web and it seems the AKG's are specially hard o power.

Even know the players I have power it up to loud enough levels,is there benefit to buying an amps for this?
It sounds so tinny? even though it gets alot of praise on the internet

Sorry for bad English btw

>>56201663
Yeah you'll want an amp for those, those old AKGs benefit from amps with at least 7-10 volts of swing. Get a Fiio E10k, Magni 2, or O2.

>>56201663
Try an EQ to beat it into line. I presume you are having treble issues, cut at 2 and 6 kHz. Add more bass, and keep adding until you like it.
>is there benefit to buying an amps for this?
No.

>>56201969
>you'll want an amp for those
Except...he doesn't.

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>>56201969
great thanks!
Ill look into it.
> those old AKGs benefit from amps with at least 7-10 volts of swing.

Where 1can I find these stats.(the voltage stuff)?

What is a comfy pair of headphones for someone with glasses? Between the HD558 and the M50X.

>Budget
$150.
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, home amp, laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either, I had a past of closed cans so I am more inclined for open earphones.
>Comfort level
Very comfy(I wear classes comfy)
>Preferred tonal balance
Nice bass and treble, not too high mids but good soundstage.
>Past headphones
Koss UR-40 and Koss porta pro.
Both current and last gen Sony XB headphones. Solo 2 headphones. I gave the beats solo 2 away because it felt like a head clamp.


I think i am more inclined to the Audio Technica headphones because two weeks ago I helped setup a stage for a weekend concert. One of the dj's used the m50x and asked after the show how he liked them, he abided by them.


Really it's comparing apples to oranges but between the HD558 and the M50x, which are better for general listening to EDM, Jazz and instrumental music that is also comfy?

>>56202218
All of the ones I listed are sufficient.

>>56202148
>Except...he doesn't.
Except...he does.

>>56202218
>I find these stats.(the voltage stuff)
For the amplifier, these will be hopefully listed on the spec sheet.
For the headphone, a little explanation.

Saying you *need* to have a dedicated headphone amplifier for a headphone is kinda bullshit, excluding electrostatics.
The amount the voltage you need of course depends on the sensitivity of the headphone, but also on music material and how loud you want it. Having more voltage on hand to make the headphone play louder doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help either.

>>56201969
>at least 7-10 volts of swing
>Fiio E10k
Only by Vp-p. That requires more computation to get to conventional Vpk and Vrms measurements. Normally, the consumer is in interested Vrms, and by root mean square the E10k is far short of 7 volts.

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I got myself these after years of nothing but ~$50 IEMs, and holy shit the difference is just staggering. I can actually hear the concussion of piano hammers hitting the wires and tiny breaths of singers between lines.

>>56203034
But there are $50 IEMs that sounds far better than those.

I get it you want to feel good about your purchase.

I don't want to ruin that for you.

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>Budget
$100 range, willing to go higher or lower
>Location
LA, California
>Source
Bass Guitar. Looking to play without disturbing the neighbors
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear or IE
>Open or closed
Either way, Open preferred
>Comfort level
6+/10
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass Guitar, so lows and basses
>Past headphones
Nothing in particular, nothing for bass guitar so far. ATH m50x for relaxed listening.

You're all beautiful people.

>>56203961
The M50x works well for this.

>>56198834
SoundMagic E10S

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>>56203987
I'll give it a shot. I remember them having kinda disappointing bass through my smartphone, but worth a try straight from the source.

>>56202296
The 558's will be much comfier than the m50's.

The m50's are a meme anyway. They're far to coloured and have sloppy bass. Whoever calls them good 'studio monitors', is drunk. Thr m40x's are much better ĺ.

>>56204354
M50s are fucking shit. My ears stick outward so they can touch the pathetic excuse of a driver which is a hard plastic ball which should have been kept away from my head by their non existent padding.

Wearing that trash felt like wearing a beehive on my head.

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Thank god the HD800 cable is so thick, I'll be able to hang myself with it after Tyll banished it from approval.

>>56204354
Thanks. Been doing a lot of tests with the 558's at a local BB with a Magnolia section. Probably gonna finally get them.

I like how the beats studio feels nice as well, but would not pay the price.

I might just get two pairs(open can/closed cans) just to cover everything.

Thanks

Tyll loves niggerbass and hates treble.

>>56204453
>>56204578
Enlighten me. Who is Tyll?

>>56204621
Santa

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Are there any good headphones, not headsets, with this kind of aesthetic?

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>>56204703
That disgusting color scheme you mean?

What changed in the past 5 years that made wireless headphones not garbage?

>>56204453
>>56204578
Why do you guys care?

Just ordered HD 600s. What good snake oil cables are there for them?

>>56204703
Maybe a V-Moda with a custom yellow shield and some kind of graphic design on it.

>>56204798
HD650 cable is better if you want a better cable.

>>56204791
It's like you haven't heard that Tyll's wall of fame governs the quality of headphones

>>56204751
Nothing.

>Budget
$150 - $200 (talking about just the headphones) is my preferred range, though I will go higher than that if I am sold on it enough.
>Location
USA, but I will most likely order online
>Source
Into my computer mainly and on shorter occasions, my phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open so I can hear what's going on around me
>Comfort level
Nothing too heavy on my ears so that they don't get sore too fast. I'll be using them for long periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference/can't really decide
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Hesh 2.0. I've used them for the last three years, but the right ear of the headphones are going out and causing sounds to be unbearable as the sound in the right ear turns on and off quickly. While I was okay with them, I'd like to get something stronger and better now.

I've done a little research myself and ran into the Sennheiser HD 598 headphones and a Fiio E10K for my DAC, but I'm not familiar with the Sennheiser brand or the use of DACs in general. Would this be a good set up to use? Should I consider switching out the DAC for another one? Anything else I should consider doing or purchasing?

>>56205118
Generally it is suggested to hold off buying a DAC until you know you need one. Depending on your source you may not.

How do I mod a headphone so that it is open back instead of closed?

Just go full redneck and cut a hole?

>>56205118
At the $200 bracket, you should also consider getting a DT880, K702, or a used Fidelio X2. Pair the first two with an amp.

Or you can just save a bit more and get a used HD600 for ~$260 and reach end game.

Those are options you can also consider

>>56205196
I see. I'll either be plugging it in to the headphone port of my desktop computer or into the Logitech X540 speakers headphone port, but it makes sense to try it first before buying one.

>>56205206
If I decided to, what amps should I consider for that?
>and reach end game
Is the HD600 really that good?

>>56205256
>what amps should I consider for that?

E10k should be fine. O2 or magni if you want more power, but an e10k is enough

>is the hd600 really that good
Yes. Not too hard to drive, will last you years, and sounds good with basically all genres. Much better investment than a 598. Just wait a bit and save like $100 more and get something nicer.

>>56205289
After doing some research, I might get the HD600s instead. I'll just wait a little longer. Thank you.

Are those walmart-ubiquitous Sony mdr-ex100ap any good? I'm used to the baby of /csg/, zircons.

>>56203034
They are shit.

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Wow Heaadphones are cool

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Anyone have a favorite parametric EQ app for Android phones, or settings to be used on a normal one to correct the sound of the famous Sony MDR7506?

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>>56198111
the elear has a big treble dip in it that the utopia doesn't have. it's not as bad as the el8 but it's kind of obvious you have to pay thousands more for the fixed version.

>>56204716
>>56204703
god that looks ugly

>>56205610
no. zircons are also fart cannons you should feel bad for liking them

>>56206695
generally lower 2-5k to where you like it, gently lift lower bass in a slope. lift sub-bas more than around 100hz. some people lift around 200hz because the v6 has a natural dip there but I leave it, I think the bass sounds better that way.

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>>56204621
our loving father, the wise sage that knows all

>>56205118
AKG K612 + E10K should cost less than 200$. It's basically the best setup your budget can buy. K612 are super comfy, really light, they have large earpads for long listening sessions and they have one of the best performance/price ratio you can possibly find nowadays.
If you wanthe Sennheiser at all cost, I suggest a HD558. It's cheaper and more comfortable than HD598 and it can be modded into a HD558 easily.

>>56206898
>>56205118
https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Reference-Headphone/dp/B00DCXZY1W

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LP3AMC2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471859606&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=Fiio+e10k

It's sligthly more than 200$, but it's a great combo, unless your budget is strict. This setup is hard to beat.

Help me, /hpg/.
Is there some ok-ish earbuds I can for like $20?
At the moment I'm choosing between KZ ATE and Xiaomi Piston 3, are they any good?

>>56207151
Very bassy: Piston 3
Even more bassy: KZ ATE

Piston is alright.

Assuming you like the sound of the HD558, what's the next logical upgrade, HD600 or HD650?

>>56207565
HD 600 more likely. Response of your HD 558 can vary depending on the device you use. This might shift the response to a more warm tilted one which resembles the HD 650 more than the HD 600. They are all very similar and this "issue" with tonality is nothing EQ can't fix.

>>56207565
HD650 is better than HD600 in any case

Im torn right now i have two headphones that i can chose from either the Gemini DJ HSR-1000

Or AKG 240S

OR some m50s please help

>>56207725
AKG K240

>>56207767
How nice are they serisouly cause i have a custom one new pads and cord for 50 shipped

I need a microphone preamp (condenser mic far too quiet), any that are cheap?

>>56197324
I got mine for 110 CAD all in on newegg a few months ago

idk if this is the right place to post, but I assume you guys know stuff about audio

I recently installed a GANO+Lanux distro on my laptop (that has some IDT eq on Windows). When that eq is off the audio is tinny as shit.

What's an OK eq preset to "fix" tinny speakers as best as possible

>>56207725
Get the Brainwavs HM5/LINDY HF100/whatever re-brand is available at that price range.

They are goat.

>>56207779
They're great headphones. They used to be the standard open-back headphones in recording studios.

>>56207808
50 dollars extra
Why tho

>>56207849
o

in the UK they're the cheapest out the bunch you listed (£60)

shame

>>56207819
Hows the bass on them

Bought these.

Tear me a new one, /g/.

The sound is incredible. Regular jack included.

Only bad thing about them is the finicky bluetooth controls. Sluggish at times if not downright unresponsive.

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>>56207876
HURF DURF

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AudioFool here - I listen to Hi-Res and balanced headphones thru an Oppo HA-1. My reference has always been BD DT-770 (80 ohms), but I found a new contender. Audio-Technica's ATH-MSR7's F'n Rock! They're so sensitive I have to turn the volume down, yet they still reveal all these hidden gems in music I thought I knew. Listening to mp3s on a clip+ thru these is almost as good as my $5k system. Highly recommended - try 'em, U'll like 'em!

>>56207869
Weak

Looking for a good but not to expensive DAC to go with my O2 amp

Please advise.

>>56207922
Damn not sure if youd know but are they better then the gamescom 780 headset

>>56208045
gaming headsets suck. over priced baby shit.
get ath700x and a mic.

>>56207784
pls

>>56206695
Viper4Android is system wide. The Convolver can make almost any adjustment possible, but this requires more setup than your typical EQ. A guide for the uninitiated is here:
>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372750
The rest of the default suite is more limited in equalization. Requires root.

Neutron Music Player has a nice parametric built in, Onkyo HF player has one built in as well. Technically, the Neutron player has the better EQ.


>>56207784
There are countless ways that a speaker can be bad. Presets aren't very useful.
Do something with Carla and some VST EQ, EasyQ as an example.

>>56208521
No shit nigger thats why i bought a blue yeti asking for headphones

>>56208584
>Do something with Carla and some VST EQ, EasyQ as an example.
Thanks anon, I'll check them out

>>56207915
Yeah the MSR7's are pretty well known on /hpg/
good headphones if you can get them at a good price.

>>56208666
Blue Yetis are shit mics too. Far too overpriced for how they sound

>>56208716
I literally have no idea what I'm doing

>>56208931
Not when you get one for 60 dollars

How come Tyll doesn't have objective 2 or schiit stack in his wall of fame for amplifiers?

>>56208941
You also need to set up JACK for audio routing and such. Carla is just an example of a host for plugins.

>>56204091
Not an earbud.

Yeah I wish Tyll had a review of it. I only found measurements from Tyll. Where's his O2 website review?

>>56208931
It sounds better than similarly priced Audio-Technicas and has more features.

About to place a purchase for the Lindy HF 100.

There's not any better I can get fir this price point, right???

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I lost my in-ears like a fucking mong. Are these a good buy?

>>56209343
>My task over the last couple of weeks has been to run and tweak the tests I've been slowly configuring on NwAvGuy's O2 headphone amp, and compare my measurements with his measurements with the hope that they match fairly well. If you've not heard of the O2 amplifier, it is NwAvGuy's attempt to design a very inexpensive amp that performs very well and can be built by DIYers. My experience with this amp so far is that it's very clean sounding, and does indeed measure very well.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelity-headphone-amp-measurement-program-update-july-2012

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>>56199616
Right here, senpai.

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LG QuadBeat 3 sounds AMAZING.

Fairly flat midrange and treble with a hefty sub-bass boost and very little mid-bass / lower midrange bleed.

I've spend thousands of dollars in IEMs and these rank as some of the best and I got it for free.

The microphonics are terrible but a shirt clip helps.

/shill

>>56210449
>spends thousands in IEMs
>doesn't show IRL pics

>>56207887
>>56207876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbBhfG4tig

>>56210863
they're $23 on amazon

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>>56199616
L2 here, headband hurts the head a little, but it has a great warm sounding signature, i love it.

I have a pair of cheap earbuds that are actually pretty good, but looking at something else for cheap(ish) portable use.
Would the Sony MDR-Q68LW be decent?

>>56210950
It measures like a champ.

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_phones&page=5&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=name&desc=desc&no=103

>>56210990
those are clip ons

>>56211105
And?
I said portable, not necessarily earbuds.

>>56210990
Yes but don't spend too much on them.

>>56211145
$30 will probably be the most I'd spend.

>>56210972
>>56199616
>>56210387
>planned obsolescence

Can anyone recommend me wireless headphones (not earphones) that last a good while. I will probably only use them when I commute home from work which is about 30-50 minutes each day there and back. Price range don't worry about, just chuck it at me guys.

>>56211226
and also over-ear ones, but not too big.

>>56198686
>unshits kataner
>telports behind
>slicing atteck
Nothen personnel,kit.

if your headphone's cables are not plated in pure gold the electron flow will be impeded by tiny quantum distortions in the time space continuum that prevent the ionization of the respective particles that allow the movement of high fidelity electrons meaning the less preferred low fidelity electrons which lack certain quark configurations will transpose across the cable preventing certain frequency response

>>56211386
But do you have your own personal utility pole?

Thought so, you poor faggot.

>Budget
$150
>Location
Europoor
>Source
fiio x3-II
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
doesnt matter
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference/ little bass would be good
>Past headphones
mdrv6 they are very good, but i feel discomfortable when the curvy cable presses down so i only use them at home

>>56211486
forgot to add, i checked extensive iem guide. it says rock-it r-50 are pretty good also in my price range. Are they actually good?

I went ahead and read a review of some tube amplifier out of pure curiosity

The writer went on about how that amplifier really makes his HD650s sing and prefers it over the o2's ''analytical'' sound

Assuming the o2 is ''audibly transparent'' then the tube amplifier must be coloring the sound. What is the point of that shit and wouldn't it make the amplifier objectively inferior?

>>56211616
Some people like the colored sound more.

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>>56210066
please respond

Just brought some HD600.

Looking for a DAC and amp, something that can drive the HD600 and some desktop speakers when I buy some in the future.

What do you guys suggest?

Budget is about $300aud

>>56212332
O2
no DAC

>>56212332
>What do you guys suggest?
The NoAmp and the YouAlreadyhaveAFunctionalDacYouMoronicInfantileMoreMoneyThanSenseDickhead

^ butthurt poorfags

>>56212431
Show me your cables

>>56209971
anyone? they're in my basket atm

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>>56212561

>>56212332
E10k. Save your money

>>56212332
If you need both, O2+ODAC or Magni+Modi. If you only need an amp, just Magni or O2.

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Purpleheart master race

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Just got these, and I think I got memed. Fucking reddit. At least I'm only using them as a cheap backup pair of cans.

>>56212332
KH 120 A if you want some decent speakers.

Get an audio interface for the HD600.

>>56212891
>Audio cable

Well no shit, Sherlock.

>>56212891
>Fucking reddit
>I think I got memed
You don't belong in /hpg/. I have no idea if you do. Don't crosspost here and there.

>>56212920
It's a very specific type of audio cable. One which is suicide safe should Tyll decide those headphones are shit.

>>56212947
the cable i got is only like 4 feet long so unfortunately i won't be able to hang myself with it

>>56213062
Precisely.

Are there any nicer ear pads for DT880s other than beyer's own? Thinking about getting another pair again.

>>56210066
Does nobody have them? They're DA200s if it wasn't obvious from the filename.

>>56213111
black beyer velours

the default pads yellow after a while, looks disgusting

>>56213324
Yeah I got a pair of their blacks but it's getting worn down so I want another one. Was just wondering if there was an even comfier pair of pads out there that fit the headphones.

>>56213295
http://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2013/04/tdk-ba200.html

Now go away.

I'm currently using HD598 on a shit sound card. Would I gain a lot using a quality DAC and if yes, which one would be recommended. Preferably <100$.

Semi-related: I'm currently using BM-800 (chink shit meme mic) - is there any DAC/amplifier that would produce good output for my headphones while also being able to power the microphone?

>>56213339
That's seriously technical. I mostly just wanted to know if they're good value for the money (~110€) or if there's anything better available at that price range that's sold in Europe.

requesting some advice here

>Budget: 150-250 euros
>Location: Spain
>Source: Audinac AT700
>Preferred type of headphone: Full Size
>Open or closed: Open
>Comfort level: Enough for using with glasses
>Preferred tonal balance: Neutral
>Past headphones: Sennheiser HD 201

I was considering the following, would appreciate some advice:

Sennheiser HD 598
Beyerdynamic DT880 PRO
AKG K701
Audio-Technica ATH-M50x

>>56213428
It's pretty good, good acoustical performance.

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I go through a set of cheap ear buds or IEM about 2/4 times a year. It is always due to water damage from rain, or physical wear and tear damage to the cable. Most of the time, one of the two channels die, and I'm left with just one side working. And then I replace the item when both channels are fucked. My question is - referring to build quality - what aspect is most important to take care of with portable in-ear headphones? The cable, the connector, or the earpiece? I intuitively presume it's the cable. I live in a rainy country, and listen to my music and audio lectures and stuff outside. I want as much protection from the rain as possible. Also, protection from wear and tear damage, bending the cable. When considering a new purchase, the build quality is important to me. But is the cable housing more important than how the 3.5mm connector or earpiece, in terms of protection from damage?

>>56213458
Cross out HD598 because it doesn't pair well with receivers because of impedance related issues, cross out K701 because it's an inconsistent headphone. M50x is decent but overrated and the DT880 PRO is better.

Get the DT880 PRO.

>>56213458
HD 558 gets closest to a neutral response out of that lot and it's easy to drive. Works without an amplifier and is very comfy for most people. With that AT700 you likely have an output with high output impedance which will make the HD 558s sound boomy instead of neutral.

DT880 has a slight V-shape but mostly it just has a well extended response with a single prominent high treble peak. Some find it piercing. The higher impedance versions of this headphone likely need an amplifier. DT880s are large and almost universally comfortable.

K701 is somewhat more colored. It has a high treble peak and another broader peak around 2 KHz as well as a slight upper bass hump, all of which are audible. Due to the peaks in this region the overall sound is bass light and maybe a little harsh. K701 has a stupid head band design with bumps and most find them uncomfortable due to it.

M50X is quite different from these others and the most colored headphone out of the lot. It's a closed back headphone with a significant bass boost. Overall it has a bassy response but there are some peaks in the upper range of the response. I personally dislike them and the response is hard to EQ. Some find its clamp uncomfortable as well as the headband which in my case touched only the very top of my head leaving it sore in prolonged use.

The boominess caused by high output impedance on the HD 558, the treble peak of DT880 and the coloration of K701 are relatively easy to fix with a parametric equalizer. M50X is a bigger challenge and I'd rule that out first. Instead of K701 you should consider K702 which doesn't have the bumpy headband design.

My personal choice would be between HD 558 and DT880. Since I would be using an equalizer, I'd likely pick the DT880 and tone the treble down.

>>56213895
the 600ohm version definitely needs one

>>56213925
PRO DT880 is 250 ohm only.

>>56213938
oh right he's talking about the pros

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>Budget: 100€ ~= 115 USD
>Location: Spain, europoor
>Source: Computer, gayming
>Preferred type of headphone: full-sized
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: high confort level at cost of other stuff
>Preferred tonal balance: no preference
>Past headphones: logitech g35 (very meme-y but they were comfy), takstar pro80, corsair H2100 (got them for free on a hearthstone tourney, wireless is comfy)

thanks based anons

>>56209036
because his a retarded placebofile, only reason why hpg tolerate him is because of measurements.

>>56213574
>>56213895

Thanks guys!

Honestly I was considering between the 598 vs the 880.

Guess I am going for the DT880 then!

>>56209036
most of his amp choices are... weird
also >tube amps
at least it's a separate section

>>56213458
https://www.amazon.es/Sennheiser-HD-600-Auriculares-abiertos/dp/B00004SY4H/

>>56213458
Spaniard here, I suggest you to go for the HD 600, as it's pretty cheap in our country (275€).

I own both the DT 880 and the HD 600, and I preffer by far the HD 600, the only thing I like about the DT 880 is the bass, but these headphones doesn't feel neutral at all.

I think you should go for the HD 600, it's worth it. In the worst case scenario, you can return them in 30 days if you buy from Amazon.

>>56214373
I would personally go for the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (106€ at Amazon).

Is the HD650 still good or are there better alternatives by now that arent as mind blowingly expensive as lets say the HD800? I mean, I'd buy the latter but fuck me...

>>56211616
First off there are plenty of biases that come into play when merely doing a sighted listening test of a piece of audio gear. I wouldn't trust a word someone writes about a supposed sound signature of an amplifier.

There is a very common misconception that tubes sound warm or color the sound audibly. While there definitely are amplifiers which color the sound, these can be both solid state or tube designs and warmth/brightness or whatever else someone might use to describe how an amp sounds aren't inherent to either one of these designs. I'm doubtful there's any perceivable difference at all between most well designed solid state and tube amplifiers. What someone think they hear while listening to them isn't interesting to me.

I'm sure you could design an amplifier and make it intentionally slightly bright by frequency response(enough to be audible in A/B switching) while keeping distortion and noise levels inaudible. Write a fancy product description, apply a huge price tag and build an image around that product describing it's sound as warm and lush. I wouldn't be surprised if the consensus among the reviewers is just what the packaging claims.

>What is the point of that shit
That's what some people want, a colored sound. Why they go out and spend money on a piece of gear that essentially colors everything passing through, acts as an arbitrary signal processor which you have no control over, I don't know.
>and wouldn't it make the amplifier objectively inferior?
It certainly performs worse. That doesn't make it subjectively worse which is something a lot of people put more value on.

>>56215205
HD 650 vs HD 800 is an apples to oranges comparison. Neither is strictly better or worse. They sound different.

>>56215231
>HD 650 vs HD 800 is an apples to oranges comparison
Thats not what I meant. I was asking if there are equal alternative in the HD650s price range or if its still some sort of a no-brainer because it provide the least altered sound at that price range.

>>56215205
Yeah a better alternative of HD650 is HD600. I own both HD600 and HD800 and >>56215231 is 100% correct about apples vs oranges. HD800 to me doesn't satisfy my forward vocal needs like on the HD600.

>>56215256
HD 600

Some would probably list DT880, K702, X2 etc. These come and go, people's tastes vary. I personally see the HD 600 as the best out of the lot and if you want a more neutral response, HD 600 is a better option than HD 650 which is a bit warm.

>>56215287
I own HD 650 and HD 800 and use equalizer with both so the differences grow smaller. HD 800 is more comfortable and better built. HD 650 doesn't really see any use anymore. Imo HD 600 sounds better than both if using EQ is out.

What are the best open back, over ear, detachable cable headphones under $200 for easy listening to prog rock flacs in foobar. Directly plugging in to a pc with no amps or other memes allowed. Comfort is equally important to sound quality.

>>56215375
Used HD600

>>56215375
HD 558/HD 598, near identical headphones

>prog rock flacs in foobar
Irrelevant desu senpai

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>Budget: $60
>Location: USA, KY
>Source: Computer/Gaming
>Preferred type of headphone: full-sized
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: 8/10
>Preferred tonal balance: no preference
>Past headphones: some gaming meme headphones

Please help I've been using earbuds for so long.

So, someone wants to buy me a pair of HE1060s?

>>56216557
Sure, post your address.

I'll send you one right now.

>>56216557
I'd sooner send you a spring loaded box of razors than give you he1060s.

>>56216557
I wonder how it measures

>>56215405
The form said to give source and tonal preferences

After a recommendation from here a few days back I purchased the sennheiser hd558's from amazon. The price was up ten dollars from yesterday, so it was above the limit I'm willing to pay. I just went with an Amazon warehouse deal for twenty dollars cheaper with "damaged packaging." Did I do good /hpg/?

>>56217036
enjoy your broken headphones

>>56217387
I will anon

>>56197236
So we've agreed on this to be the future template for all OPs from now on.

Regardless of your opinion on wireless you should follow the correct OP format.

kthxbai

>>56217943
fuck you, all that crying about "muh wireless" discussion derailing perfectly fine threads only to not even talk about the damn wireless later, you are a shitposter and don't even know it.

3/10 for making me reply.

>soundstage
>real

>>56218427
>This post
>OC

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>>56197236
If the anon who recommended me the MDR7506 in the last thread happens to be here, I just got them in and they're pretty great!

Thanks m8

why do my 32 ohm dt 990s sound amazing on my iphone 6s plus but sound like utter shit when plugged into my gigabyte motherboard? it wasn't a cheap motherboard either, but it's pretty old.

>>56218746
That was me but it was a troll recommendation.

>>56216486
How long have you been using ear buds? You might be fucking deaf now

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>>56197236

>Budget
$350-500 / €310-440
>Location
Poland
>Source
Maya U5 / upgrade to FiiO e17k(??)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I wear headphones 12 hours a day, so very high, although they don't need to cling to my head - I only wear them when I sit straight.
>Preferred tonal balance
I listen to every kind of music, but both in electronic and rock I like bass, although classical music is rather high tones. So... v-shaped? I dunno.
>Past headphones
HD201, HD439 -> which aren't deep enough, and vocals aren't accentuated enough
>Considering
HD650, K712

why is the HD600 getting shilled a lot these days

>>56214482
He was the CEO of Headroom and built a bunch of amps and shit as well as rubbed his nose in a lot of brown stars. He knows what he can say and what he can't which is a pity in some cases because it seems like he is either biting his tongue or has convinced himself that the emperor's clothes are resplendent.

>>56218746
Several of us suggest that one, but still, glad that you liked it, have fun.

>>56218922
flavor of the month + all big three get lots of attention here.

Can I get a recommendation on male to male 3.5mm headphone cables 6-8 feet long? Just want the best quality $10 or below

>>56218843
got me xDDD

>>56219211
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTUUA5Y/

Or something similar probably is your best bet. You can obviously go much cheaper but the build quality will worse, possibly shoddy construction, etc.

>>56218902
HD650 is fairly warm but neutral, will give you the bass you want but the highs are a tad recessed.

DT990 600ohm perhaps? Those are V-shaped.

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Thoughts on Eggheads? Worth buying 28-31 of these?

>>56219313
Looks fairly crappy, but why would you want around 30 of any headphone?

>>56218902
DT880 is probably the best v-shapped option in it's price range

>>56218902
Closed? DT770 Pro 80 ohm.

What is the appeal of coiled cables?
Does it prevent you hearing vibrations of what the cable touches?

>Budget
$100
>Location
California
>Source
iPhone 3.5 mm jack
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear, wired
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
8/10, pretty important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
been using apple's earpods, I think they're solid but looking for something more

>>56219357

they don't spill out on the floor if you're too lazy to bind them

>>56219357
Easier to manage at close distances but can stretch to far distances. Typically used in studios.

>>56219357
Easier to manage when you're moving around with headphones on for a lot of people

>>56219386
>>56219382
Just like a phone, makes sense.

>>56219357
Easier to manage than a huge straight cable and still can be used from a fair distance, also prevents tangling. Plain and simple.

>>56219371
HD419

>>56219412
Yeah, I actually forgot that phones used to have giant coiled cords.

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Are Grados a meme?

>>56219519
All headphones are memes.

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>>56219954
Is life a meme?

>>56212891
What's your major gripe with them, anon?
I found they don't sound bad, but the comfort is complete aids.

>>56213380
Im running the same set-up as you lol.

The 598s are ez to power, so if your DAC truly is shit, just get any cheap Fiio DAC. They all sound fine.

For your BM800, I'll assume you got meme'd like a lot of csg and was told to buy the SOMAKE.
All you need for the bm to sound good is phantom power. There are plenty of ~20 usd full 48 volt ones on ebay. Otherwise you'd be looking into a second hand audio interface.

>>56215375
HD558 with mod.

>>56219351
>>56219335
>>56219310
So DT770, 880, or 990 :|

amp or amp/dac (which ever I need) that goes well with k612? no more than 100 usd...

>>56220582
schiit magni
>>56220547
do you want open or closed?

>>56202218
>5 way binding post
>there's only 4 ways to bind cables to it

Really?

>>56220547
You said you wanted closed, so 770.

Gave a pair of Sennheiser HD 558's a listen to today(and they sound nice). I want to get them, but is there any heads up things that I should know about them before purchase?

>>56220684
they've got a wonky impedance curve so it doesn't pair well with some devices

>>56220665
They're super cheap.

>>56220732
But they are good. Comfy and has some bass, which will be good for electronic and rock

If you want another option, you can always get M100s with XL pads. Closed, comfy, V shaped, portable. But I think 770 is better for home use. Or NAD HP50 - not sure about its comfort though

>he fell for the v-moda meme

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>>56220972
>I'm 12 and everything is a maymay

>>56219450
wy not HD439

>>56220977
I wish I had maymays when I was 12

>burn-in

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>>56221040
>multi-bit

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>>56221024

my usb dac/amp cuts out every few hours. thinking of getting a cheap pci e sound card with spdif out, and hook the dac/amp up through that.

am i right in assuming any cheap chink card will do if im only using digital out?

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So I bought into the HD600 meme and picked up a pair.

Amazingly /hpg/ wasn't full of shit, these headphones are fantastic.

>mfw

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>>56221205
/hpg/ is full of shit but the HD600 is extremely well known so that's a safe bet

>>56201221
https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP-153-Stereo-Breakout-Cable/dp/B000068O3C

Get 2 of these and plug each one into one monitor and a pair 2/3 and 4/5

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What is considered the next tier up from the HD600s? Something that is one step up but not the endgame. Don't say HD800s.

What phones are there that have a decent amp on them? Looking for a new phone and this is something I've been looking for.

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Budget is 50 bucks
Location is USA
Source is phone
Iem is preferred
Comfortable enough to listen to for hours
Tonal balance preference is balanced, extra with is fine but I hate harsh highs

My past headphones is those 10 dollar panasonics. Thanks.

if i want to broaden my headphone collection what should i buy

already had dt880 pro's (250ohm), and currently own hd650's. i have bowers&wilkins p7's for phone usage but gave those to my mother, even though i love em

anyway, what to get or look at?

>>56221658
whoop i forgot

schiit modi2/magni2 for powering them

>>56221526
It's down to preference, I would probably get something with a different sound than the 600, maybe try out some planar magnetics and see how you like em.

Nobsound 6J9 vs e10k?

>>56198690
I bought the SE215 and the SE315. 315 haven't arrived but man the 215 are fucking A+. However how the fuck do i even wear these. I get the fit but i can't comfortably arrange the plastic ends of The cable

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>Budget
$30
>Location
West NA
>Source
xperia z3, ipod classic
>Preferred type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
closed obvs
>Comfort level
good, normal earbud with silocone cushions or w/e
>Preferred tonal balance
mostly neutral
>Past headphones
nothing special, just generic earbuds of varying levels of quality

>Budget
50€ - 120€

>Location
EU - Italy

>Source
HTC M8 (phone)

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM with absolute sound isolation

>Open or closed
N/A (Closed if applicable)

>Comfort level
Good to excellent

>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy with usual clarity.

>Past headphones
HTC M8 stock (I think they were made using beats tech. Not sure though. To me they sound far better than other IEM's I've tried.)

>>56222494
>other IEM's I've tried.
What other IEMs have you tried?

>>56222521
Generic Sony MDRs and Stock HTC M8 ones which I believe HTC branded beats. There was a time when HTC and HP had the license to sell beats tech.

>>56222532
Take a look at the SE215, MA750, or IM70.

>>56222538
Thanks. I'm really concern about isolation. I hope these are well isolated. I don't want others to listen to my weird taste of music.

>>56210449
>>56211055
>over 15db bass boost from 500hz
no thanks senpai

>>56212891
they sound good for a $40 headphone. they don't sound good for a $70+ headphone and the problems are obvious. it's more than worth it to just step up to a 558 or buy a v6.

>>56218922
probably because more people have them now. unfortunately for many, they don't have experience with other higher-end headphones because the hd600 has been shilled as end-game to them, so they will take up that position as well and call it a day.

>>56219519
OG meme from when people didn't really look at measurements and treble spikes were not only acceptable but downright popular. that generation seems to have had a fondness for wonky FR and mods that slightly change it. same reason there are still ultrasone fanboys.

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>>56220684
impedance swing like the 598 so you will want an amp with low output impedance, a cheap fiio will do. also look into the foam mod, turns the 558 into the 598.

>>56221076
>balanced
>DSD
>any technical audio improvement you can't actually hear but you still want to pay for.

>>56221526
very little is an outright upgrade. you'll want to analyze what it lacking in the hd600 and look for specific improvements there. many people go electrostatic/planar because they tend to have exceptionally even response in areas where dynamics, especially open ones, are lacking. I would not suggest the hd800, though they're definitely worth a try.

>>56221629
meelectronics m6 pro

>>56222183
I would say piston 3 but they have very low isolation which makes them almost open sounding. ttpod t1-e if you want isolation.

>>56222597
they all isolate well, se215 probably the best of the bunch. be aware the 215 and ma750 are significantly bass boosted.

>>56222971
Thanks anon

>Budget
up to $250AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
8/10
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea.
>Past headphones
HD598's.
They weren't very comfy but they sounded nice.

After losing my in-ears I was about to blow over $100 on another pair but then I tried out the Sony ones that came with my phone and honestly they're not that bad. I think I'll wait for a really good deal on some on massdrop or whatever before I get another pair of good ones.

hey /g/
i lost the mic to my hyperx cloud cores
the replacement is going to cost me about 35~ dollarydoos

anyone got any suggestions for usb mics?

>>56205199
Go full redneck and stick a grill on it.

I want to see this.

>Budget
$400-500
>Location
United States
>Source
Xperia Z5 / Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I have a big head and ears
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
I have a pair of Sony Mdr 7506's which are decent but I would like to upgrade. Id also like a amp/dac recommendation. I really enjoy music with crisp vocals, and acoustic string instruments.

>>56218842
output impedance probably

>>56222971
Is that the ah d2000?

>>56223374
PM3

>>56223269
Any particular reason you want a USB microphone rather than a normal one?

>>56224013
ah i thought usb ones were the normal ones?
and the replacement is 35 bucks thought i might as well go for something around 30-50 area

Best headphones I've ever had were monitor headphones from radio shack that cost me 20 bucks that had a curly type cable

Find me the 2016 equivalent please

>>56224033
Your normal microphones plug in like normal headphones.

Something like this with a XLR to 2.5mm plug.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-Ultravoice-Dynamic-Cardioid-Microphone/dp/B0002KZAKS/

>>56224096
Gonna need more information like at least maker and model.

New thread:
>>56224142
>>56224142
>>56224142

>>56224155
What the fuck

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>>56224155
>it's an add the shitposting starter lines episode
Nice.

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>>56199616
They are great and I fucking love them, you'd have to pry them out of my cold dead hands.

However, I wouldn't go as far as calling them master race. They need tighter base man. It is a tiny bit sloppy, became immediately obvious to me when I got my hands on a pair of MSR7s.

The velour pads are a little bit of an eye sore when they pick up lint so I stuck a pair of HM5 sheep skin leather pads that were meant for the MSR7 (butchers MSR7's sound signature).

I like this simple mod so far, sub bass sounds more prominent, I don't perceive any difference with the mids and highs, and the sound stage still sounds pretty damn large. (pads smell nice too)

Took a good while to stretch the pads but they hold in place surprisingly well. Was worried I'd feel the pins sticking out and have to trim them but the pads are more than thick enough not to notice.

A planar equivalent of these would be fucking perfect.