/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>56167670
Ten posts too early, faggot.

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looking for some wireless iems that are sweat resistant and long battery life, I was looking at the jaybird x's or x2s but I thought Id check with you guys for any alternatives since I hear they break after ~2 months of use

im going to be using them for bike riding and going to the gym

>Budget
around 100-150 USD
>Location
USA KS
>Source
iphone 5/ipod classic
>Comfort level
high comfort is pretty important
>Past headphones
shitty $5 earbuds
apple ear buds both older and newest models both are extremely uncomfortable to me/my ears

also a mic isnt needed

>>56168086
The LG neckband bluetooth stuff (HBS-850, 900) would have a solid battery life, more so than the Jaybirds. Don't know about the sweat resistance though.

>a mic isnt needed
Most bluetooth models have one whether you want it or not.

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Enough bass for you?

>>56168157
>dat peaky treble

>>56168142
how are the sound quality? or do you know

>>56168219
Not him but LG's bluetooth earphones are the best sounding bluetooth earphones.

>>56168254
Have you tried Beats or Bose wireless?

>>56168219
The LG Tone series?
They have some broad tone controls built into the device, you can adjust them to make broad EQ lifts or reduction.
Stock setting on 900 is well balanced and smooth in response. You can add more bass as needed.

The new 1100 flagship sound is more questionable.

>>56168275
>beats
Are they still a meme?

whats the best cheap headphone amp

>>56168286
>implying LG wireless is any less a meme than Apple wireless

>>56168311
Objective2.

>>56168311
schitt stack

>Budget
about 100 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
PC Gaming/VOIP
>Comfort level
as comfortable as possible
>Past headphones
shitty razor headphones,twice
cheap 10$ walmart headpones that where better than the razors somehow

Also on or around the ear if possible

>>56168311
>DAC/amp
E10K
>amp only
Magni 2, O2

>>56168311
Mint tin

>>56168366
phillips shp9500

>>56168311
The one that hits the requirements for the least amount of money.
You have to say what those requirements are first.

>>56168275
Only the over-ear, not the in-ear models.

>>56168391
>phillips shp9500

Can I get something like this but with a built in microphone?

>>56168481
It has a 3.5 so the boompro will work.

>Budget
Not particularly limited
>Location
USA
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear, universal fit.
>Open or closed
More isolation
>Comfort level
Deep fit is a must.
>Preferred tonal balance
Treble extension please, mildly damped.
Flatter is preferred but not important.
>Past headphones
I do not like Etymotic cables and how the stem meets the earpiece. I do find the sound balance passable, but doesn't matter.

>>56168537
so theres a 3.5 jack on the headset that the boompro connects to, correct?

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>>56168586

>>56168550
Try the Etymotic MK5 or HF5.

AKG K702's
Yes/No?

>>56168633
No

>>56168637
Well explain why then

>>56168550
SE535

>>56168616
When I say I don't like Ety cables, I mean MC5/MK5/HF5/ER4.

>>56168660
You could also say "why consider the K702 to start with"?

>>56168669
The shell complicates deep fit somewhat. The Shure triple flange tips that make it easier were agony. Also has miserable extension, even with only a little damping.

>>56168779
Tried DBA-02 MKII or Brainwavz B2?

Both seem out of production but are deep fit.

What is your requirements for treble extension, they don't seem better than the Etys at treble extension.

Currently using the Superlux 668B's, but they feel kinda cheap, uncomfortable and are getting a bit smelly. Plus I'm kinda getting fed up of the open design.

What are some decent replacements around the £50 mark? Basically looking for the opposite of listed above, so:

comfy
closed
UK
general all rounders, I browse /mu/ and listen to whatever interests me

Thanks!

Thinking of getting the Sennheiser HD558 headphones. Some people here warned buyers that they break easy/ sound tinny after a while. Really want to use them because they're on sale and comfy as well(I wear glasses).

Anyone her have experience with them?

>>56168823
HD451

>>56168858
It's not tinny and no it won't break easily, the new revision which has been out for a few years is very durable.

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>>56168598
Thanks friend !

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Best earphones under $25?

>>56168944
piston?

>>56168944
Pistons
KZs
Meme Zircons
Ergo Fits

>>56168807
DBA-02 mk1, also sold as Brainwavz B2 and some other rebrands which are also discontinued. The wire frayed off at multiple points, multiple repairs made over years.

~16 kHz is fine, DBA-02 only goes a little higher at best. The ER4 has a big peak at 15-16kHz.

>>56168633
yes, any of the big three are good one way or another.

>soundstage
>real

>>56169260
>this post
>oc

>>56169260
Tyll _just_ figured out that soundstage is affected by the frequency response. I thought this was well known but apaparently not.

>It seems to me the laid back sound of those two headphones in the presence region—say between 800Hz and 2.5kHz—gives the impression of more distance between me and the vocalist.
>What I'm geting at here, I think, is that depth of image on a headphone may not be something achieved with accuracy as much as it might be an illusion caused by a change in tonal response.

Is the Hyper X Cloud II good for the price (£60) ? I don't need the mic, but I just heard they're rebrands of actual decent headphones.

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>>56169374
>apaparently
Just end me.

>>56168366
>>56168391
Don't get the sph9500 unless you have a massive head. Clamping force is weak as.

>>56169374
He must have read my post on SBAF about that being the reason behind the HD600 commonly being described as having no soundstage.

>>56169383
Yeah.

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>>56169383
>Cloud II
>II

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Anons, is it really worth spending over $100 on IEMs when chink shit exists?

Does a Zircon, KZ, or Piston have so much less SQ and clarity over something like a MA750 or GR07 that would justify spending more?

I'm beginning to think you're just paying for better build quality, accessories, and maybe a different sound signature.

>>56169876
>Anons, is it really worth spending over $100 on IEMs when chink shit exists?
For build quality, warranty, features, sq, etc? Of course.

Anyone Hifiman He-400i users here or am I the only one?

How does a Koss KSC75 compare to a Porta Pro. I already own a Porta Pro and I just ordered a KSC75 on Amazon Global just a minute ago.

>>56170071
I have one.

>Budget
$20-50 USD

>Location
USA
Walking outside, taking the bus

>Source
Galaxy S7

>Preferred type of headphone
Earbud, Supraaural, just something that works for outside and portable.

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Probably want it to be high for long sessions in case.

>Preferred tonal balance
I liked my Sennheisers listed below. I used to have an Audio Technica M50, but I hated how it sounds, so I gave it to my dad.

>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD555, HD558, and CX300, CX200 AKG K702

I need headphones for on the go. I have the CX200, but they don't work anymore. I was going to get another Sennheiser CX200 because they are so cheap, but I might as well ask here if there's anything better. I'm open to having actual headphones if they are small and portable enough.

>>56170466
What other headphones do you own?

>>56170546
HD600.

>>56170501
xiaomeme pistons

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

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The left driver in my DT990's seems to have bit the dust. I remember a few weeks ago I plugged em in and the left ear had no sounds so I gave the plug a twist in case they weren't plugged into the amp right and it worked again so I thought it was nothing.

The wire has been well looked after and has no visible damage to it, nor does the plug. Is replacing the driver expensive/difficult? Or could the plug be dud even though there's no visible damage?

>>56170887
My integrated realtek produse studio quality 192khz with 24 floating bit. Shit on you picture cant.

>>56168914
Thanks.

Alright, so here's the deal: I use pomade in my hair. It's not a matter of choice, it's that Imy ancestry is slavic and hungarian and if I don't use that then I have a matted mess as I squat on a porch while drinking vodka. I'm looking for headphones (preferably under 100 dollars, hard limit 150 dollars) that won't fuck up my hair. For the sake of argument, assume that I'd like both closed and open headphones. The closer to neutral, the better. What would you suggest?

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>Budget
$400 USD max

>Location
US

>Source
Matrix mini-i usb dac amp hooked up to a computer

>Preferred type of headphone
over ear, full sized

>Open or closed
closed, since i now live with 2 other people and need some sort of noise isolation

>Comfort level
as comfy as possible

>Preferred tonal balance
idk, i really like my ddt880s wide soundstage and its brightness, but would like more bass

>Past headphones
dt880, hd 558, akg k545. i thought the hd558 sounded muddy, same with the k545 but it was even worse imo with less soundstage.

Mostly listen to jazz, weeb music, and electronic music. basically looking for a closed version of the dt880 with good bass, was currently looking at the fostex th-x00 but wanted some suggestions from you guys.

>>56171879
PM3

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>>56171533
u wot m8?

My name is not cant and I don't think I can shit on a digital image literately even if i tried.

>>56171533
That's hardly what limits output quality in practice or works as an indication of quality at all.

>floating bit
Oh what's that?

>>56171876
KSC75

>>56171955
>somehow looks even worse than the porta pro

Oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>56171876
>I'm looking for headphones (preferably under 100 dollars, hard limit 150 dollars) that won't fuck up my hair.
Get IEMs or start wearing a do-rag.

>>56171983
You raise a fair point. Could I do worse than /csg/'s zircon meme?

>>56171992
There are a lot of better choices at the $100 price point. MA750 comes to mind.

>>56171955
Audio-technica ATH-EM7X / ATH-EW9 if you want fancy clip ons.

>>56170949
It's not the driver. Could still be the cable/plug but I'd guess the solders inside the cup connecting to the drivers are disconnected.

>>56172016
How's the price to performance ratio? I'm looking to maximize that.

Need something weird friends

I need RF wireless headphones
My mom has been using the same pair of wireless headphones since like 2005, they're beat up as shit, only one side works.

So I wanna get her some nice ones

As to the reason why we get RF headphones is because my mom struggles with sleeping (I got that from her too, rip me), so at night she watches shit on tv with her headphones to not wake my dad up. My parents are tech illiterate as fuck, and rf headphones are so easy to operate, literally turn the headphones on, audio on tv stops, audio on headphones start

I'm not asking anyone to do the work for me, I just want opinions and to know if anyone has experience with rf headphones

>Budget
75-150
>Location
Burgerland
>Source
Tv
>Preferred type of headphone
RF headphone, over ear, full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Extremely painful, I don't know why this is even in the template, its literally a retarded question, obviously everyone wants a comfy pair

>>56172629
Take a look at Senn RS120.

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>>56168633
Absolutely yes

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>chinks

>>56171879
the fostex th-x00 doesn't isolate much, but depending on your needs it might be ok
great for electronic music
also very comfy, and decent pad options

>Budget: flexible $250 aud
>Location: Australia
>Source: Desktop PC
>Preferred type: full sized
>Closed
>Comfort level: Comfy AF
>Past headphones: currently using shitty qantas flight headphones. GF has Bang&Olufsen H6 - I like the them, but I'm not so fussy about the quality of sound.

Thoughts?

Which the "better" out of these:

Brainwavz HM5/LINDY HF-100 (does it matter which one? Buying from UK and these seem to be the only variants available. Are they any different to the NVX XPT100/Fischer Audio FA-003's??? I can't get those here...)

Denon D1100

Creative Aurvana Live!

For general media consumption (films, games, music) I dont really have a preference in music since I make an active effort to listen to new stuff, so i dont really gravitate towards one specific genre.

These are all around the same price, closed back (important for me), and actually available here in the UK. If you've got any other suggestions, lemme know.

Thanks.

>Budget
50 - 100 euros
>Location
Switzerland
>Source
Android smartphone
>Preferred type
IEMS
>Comfort level
I would use them daily and also for sports (Running, biking), so they should at least stay in place well
>Past headphones
Been using the Shure SE215 for about two years now and the left side died a while ago, and the right one is about to. They were great for sports but I feel a bit overpriced for the quality. (Or maybe I have shitty ears that can't distinguish sound quality, so cheap iems could also work)

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>>56167670
I fucking love me setup.

>>56173556
>bumps

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>>56174551
the K701 doesn't have bumps
it also doesn't have bass

>>56174628
The made in china(your pic) doesn't. Mine does. The bumps don't bother me, though

>>56174702
I thought I've seen very old K701s without bumps too, maybe they did it for a while.
There are too many x7x variations.

>>56174278
>spotify
kys nigger

>>56174134
I fucking loved the Denons when I had them, but they're kinda fragile. Look into the Koss Pro DJ series. They sound very similar to my ears.

Anyway

>Budget
Up to £180
>Location
UK
>Source
HTC 10
>Preferred type
Anything closed and portable. IEMs would be most convenient, but I can sacrifice that for sound.
>Past headphones
AKG K240, Koss Pro DJ200, Denon AHD1100, Shure SE215

Been looking at the RHA T20 and Beyerdynamic T51p if anyone has experience with either of those. I'd love something that can pull off a wide-sounding soundstage in a small package.

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Is there any performance differences between JDS Labs O2 AMP vs B Stocks version? Or is purely cosmetic?

I'll be powering my BEATS BY DRE :^)

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>>56174628
>>56174702
The current lack of bumps is one of the reasons i want one in my collection, but i'm not sure if it will be the K702, a K7xx or some other variation.
>>56173943
>closed and comfy
DT770 or K553 perhaps?
>>56168633
I like it, but as someone said earlier, the others in the big three (plus a few more) are all good one way or another.

>>56168633
Why?

>>56174843
What's your beef with Spotify?

>>56175101
pls respond

>>56175895
I don't see why a B-Stock anything would perform differently.

>>56167670

how do i know if this is a legitimate seller

>>56176961
i originally had a link to some ebay seller for piston 3's

anyways what is the cheapest way to get the piston 3's

will my 80ohms DT770s be able to run correctly on a netbook w/ an amp?
if not is the fiio e10k the best amp i could get? i recieved a brainwavz AP001 for free when i copped my iems will it do the trick?

>>56170887
Aesthetically that combo is sexy as fuck.

>>56174843
I use spotify premium and the quality is more than good enough, I also don't pay for it.

Now fuck off.

>>56176988
Ali express. Ibought some a while ago and they were real.

You should be buying the kz ed9 from ali express instead. The piston 3 is decent but it sounds like absolute mud compared to the ed9.

>>56177170
the problem is not of quality desu. Spotify only has mainstream albums, you'd hardly find something rare there.

>>56177550
"rare" lmfao who the fuck refers to music as "rare"
still a valid point though

>>56177188
Someone recommended me the Pistons, now you're saying the kz ed9 is better.

>>56177550
I'm picky as fuck when it comes to music and the selection has been very good so far. I mostly listen to stuff from the past that I know. I rarely look for modern music because I hate most of it.

>>56177789
>I listen to the Beatles, you probably haven't heard of them

>>56177638
Everyone here recommends them for some reason and that's why I bought them. I own both and the ed9s are much better. I gave my piston 3's away because of this and I recently got to try them again just for the sake of it and I couldn't believe how bad they sounded compared to the ed9's.

The ed9's are also much cheaper.Buy them and don't use the 'extra bass nozzle' use the standard one. They're the best iem's i've ever tried.

>>56177829
I fucking hate the beatles and most types of rock music in general.

>you probably haven't heard of them

Says the dickhead who cares about 'rare' music. just shut up you clown.

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>The Preferred Low Frequency Response of In-Ear Headphones
>Sean E. Olive, Todd Welti, and Omid Khonsaripour
Paper concerning preliminary research on target curves. Beware of preliminary typos.

Subjects have a single shelf filter with adjustable frequency and gain. Test is performed on an in-ear headphone multiple times, with and without controls of loudness and leakage. Leak measurement is performed by microphone placed inside the nozzle, the sound port.

The paper:
>https://mega.nz/#!2VEFAIwT!rCgis85CqfRkccFySiDEFUKrpT0VFlPPDEsVR7wTAaA

>>56177864
not the same guy who said rare music, but half of what I listen to isn't on spotify
not that I would ever be interested in renting music

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Picked up a pair of sl5m from cerwin vega. Better then i expected, only using them for gaming, edm and metal. They do get really fucking loud, like louder then anyother speaker i owned (except vs200). Is there any mods i should do to my ath700x and akg k553 since i gotta fix the cables? Pic related, right before puppy chewed em up.

>>56177910
Fair enough. But like I said I don't pay for it and the sound quality is great, and the selection is more than good enough. I don't rent anything. I click once and my playlist comes up instantly. It's great.

>>56177981
>Cerwin Vega
In other words you picked up a pair of subwoofers.

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>>56177017
i meant without an amp

>>56177017
The e10k is a dac and amp, the dac at the very least will give you a clean silent source. Onboard sound can give a slight hissing sound. The amp side of it is very powerful for nearly all headphones. It''s a fantastic little amp and it's usb powered. It could potentially last you forever.

>>56177896
thank you. are you the same person who added a mega folder to the wiki? if so, you should add this paper to that folder.
it still confuses me why they would use a shelf filter. surely a straight line from 250 Hz to 10 Hz would yield better results.
this target curve could be a pretty big slap in the face of etymotic.

>>56178235
thanks for the response, does that mean i could use a 250ohm DT770 instead of the 80ohm version with the e10k? what difference would i hear?

>>56178163
5inch subs? nahhh lol. the new satellite tweeter is bretty gud, wish they had frequency charts.

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>>56178570
>Cerwin Vega
>Good for anything but niggerbass
You should get some real speakers, like Infinity.

>>56174134
Anyone else got any other suggestions? Looking to buy tonight so will hopefully reach a decision soon.

Should I consider the Hyper X Cloud also? Someone else posted in this thread saying they're decent , they look comfy too.

>>56178496
I can't say for sure because the ohms don't tell the whole story. I use m e10k with hd600's and they're 300 ohms but they're weirdly quite easy to drive.

From what I already know, and the quick search I just did you're better off getting the 80 ohm version.

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>budget
I'd rather not spend more than 100$, but I'm willing to slide a little
>location
USA, Texas specifically
>source
My laptop, a Toshiba satellite.
>type
not exactly sure what you mean by this. Traditional I've always bought IED earphones because headphones usually make my ears get sore from the pressure or get too hot. But I've always wondered what's it like to have some nice "head"phones instead of earphones, so I'm looking to branch out.
>open/closed
closed please
>comfort level
I demand sound quality overall. But if the headphones make my ears feel sore from the clamping pressure or get to hot, then I think I'd rather stick to earphones.
>preferred tonal balance
I have no clue. I usually listen to classical music, sometimes anime openings, sometimes liquid funk and jazz funk, some jazz music and some Daft Punk.
>past headphones
pic related. They're my all time FAVORITE earphones and they're the only ones I buy. I've deemed them to be perfect. Good price, a variety of colors to mix things up, no one can hear what I'm listening to, wonderful sound, its the perfect earphone.

I've had friends tell me that full sized headphones are better. But I've always felt the get uncomfortable after a while because my ears get either to hot or sore from using them. Has anyone else ever had this sort of problem?

>>56178801
alright thanks for the clarification

>>56178661
The hyper x clouds are decent and if you NEED gaming headset with a mic etc then they are the ones to buy.

If you don't need the mic then the dt 770's should be a bit better. but they cost more. You can get an attachable mic to stick on any headphone. I don't know the name but it gets posted here a lot.

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Is the HTF295 shit? Found them on sale for 20 bucks and kinda want to buy.

>>56178833
I already have a mic. Would the jump to the DT 770's be worthwhile? They're around £100, I was looking more at the £60 range. Also does it matter what version I get (will be using on board audio) ?

Thanks.

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i got these a few months ago cuz the headphone jack on my phone got fucked up. pretty good ~6h battery life and they wrap up nicely

also i accidentally left them in the pocket of my sweatshirt and they went through an entire wash cycle once. still works perfectly though. if you're looking for bluetooth earbuds these are very nice.

>>56177550
Nice bullshit and autism. Maybe the niche as shit stuff actually available on Spotify just doesn't cater for your tastes. And to expect that any single source of music on the Internet, whether that is a private tracker or a large streaming service like Spotify, includes all the music you want to listen to is unreasonable. Inb4 some pretentious /mu/ "taste" charts.

>>56178373
Done. I wonder how I should organize these documents.

There are some other topical papers I'm looking over. Next week's conference concerns headphones, and I
I haven't checked up on the convention from June.
>why they would use a shelf filter
Easier to implement.

>slap in the face of etymotic
They admit this to be an early examination.
Anyway, Ety has the ER-4XR with the bass boost now.

>>56179085
>Would the jump to the DT 770's be worthwhile?

If £40 is a big deal to you probably not, but the dt770's do sound a little bit better. Honestly you should save money and get the dt 770 and the fiio e10k instead of using onboard sound.

Both are cheap for what they offer.

If you're not that bothered in general just get the hyper x clouds. Otherwise, go with what I previously said.

>>56179208
>Easier to implement.
the paper seems to be extremely thorough though. i find it hard to believe laziness is the explanation.
>They admit this to be an early examination.
sure, but it can go both ways. the 2nd edition of the OE curve had more bass than the first.
>Anyway, Ety has the ER-4XR with the bass boost now.
got any measurements on that?

>Budget
Poorfag here. All I want are some cheap, semi-decent headphones that won't break as long as I'm careful with them. $10-$30, flexible.
>Location
US
>Source
Samsung Galaxy S4/HP Pavilion dv5
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy. I'm not a stickler for audio quality, I just want to be able to hear things like heavy bass without the headphones shitting out on me.
>Preferred tonal balance
Headphone noob, don't care

Guys, help to choose
>Budget
~100$
>Location
Not a problem
>Open or closed
Closed

>Budget
100€
>Location
Italy/Europe
>Source
Computer, Nexus 5X
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, better if they come with velvet pads by default or if I can change them
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass friendly
>Past headphones
Microsoft Lifechat LX-3000 (looking to replace these, I love their volume and bass)
Xiaomi Piston 3

>>56169393
Have another suggestion then?

What do you guys think of: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009WN7QT4 ?

>>56169393
I would say it's fine for normal heads, you must have a small head.

>>56181713
Looks like cheap chink shit but it might sound ok. It only has usb power but it's fairly cheap so I suppose that's tolerable.

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>>56177896
Damn bruh.

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I am horribly disappointed with these Sennheiser HD598SE I got the other day. They sound quite decent but for 150€ this sound is not adeguate for me. I like the mids and the soundstage but the bass is literally non-existant and the highs seem veiled to me. I assume this is a more realistic "audiophile" sound signature, but since I listen to mostly not realistic genres this isn't my cup of tea. Even orchestral stuff like vidya soundtracks or shit from TSFH sounds like garbage to me.

So I was thinking about buying something more mainstream, Amazon has the Sennheiser Urbanite XL in this pretty cool (imo) blue color for 130€.

Alternatively I was considering the ATH M50x but I've heard they have a very small soundstage and very forward "piercing" highs & mids.

From what I can tell the Urbanite has better soundstage and less fatiguing sound with a small emphasis on bass which wouldn't annoy me too much (as I'd rather have a small emphasis on bass than literally no bass like on the 598). Also the Urbanite has velour pads which I think would be more comfy and less sweaty, also less isolation which is one of the reasons why I considered open-back headphones, I don't want 100% isolation.

That being said, my requirements are:
Must go completely over the ear and not on ear because I have sentisive ears
Decent soundstage for games & movies
Dynamic, engaging sound, not analytical, realistic audiophile sound not a requirement, bass must be present but also highs and detail must not be compromised
Incomplete isolation because I want to be aware of my surroundings
Usage 80% indoors
Genres: various electronic shit such as trance and techno, various instrumental shit such as soundtracks and modern orchestral, some bullshit /jp/ tier music especially jpop, vidya & movies

>>56181713
Buying audio devices from unknown sources with no measurements or documentation is a fool's game. Just get the fiio

>>56181844
Just use EQ. See if you can make it sound right for you

>>56174134
>Creative Aurvana Live!
Got them half a year ago. Compared them to m50x with a few friends and the consensus was that they're great for the price. Slightly more bassy and not as comfortable (smaller ear pads) but overall great sound.

What are some underrated or forgotten headphones?

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Does /g/ know whether Sennheiser continues to sell the stock cable on its site?
Odd to see an out of stock for a simple cable

I assume they're obligated to sell cables if they are still selling the 650 on the site

Link related
http://en-us.sennheiser.com/cable-hd-650

>>56181953
Oy vey stock cable? There's plenty of replacements. 100$, 200$ or even 500$! I bet they sound better, too. Just pick your poison goy!!1

>>56181892
I had them for 20 days actually and I tried everything. The bass is just not there and they sound veiled. This type of sound signature is really not my cup of tea but I understand why they're so liked overall, I think this type of sound is very realistic and natural.

Even with EQ the bass is still dry and too light, the sound quality is just not engaging for me. Even in vidya I miss the bass in explosions and gunshots and other sound effects, everything sounds kinda distant and veiled I guess.

>>56181953
They sell them on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Cable-SENNHEISER-Headphones-HD650/dp/B0028PGXRE

>>56182159
I know but they're pretty much double the price
>>56181990
but then I will have to buy cable elevators as well for the full experience

>>56181953
It doesn't look like you can get the 600 cable easily. If you don't need 3.5mm buy the 650 cable from amazon.

Are you from the UK? I bought a custom length 650 cable with a 3.5mm head for my 600's.

I'll trawl through my email to find the site again if you're interested. I'm guessing they will ship worldwide but at a price.

>>56179383
A sloped response can require multiple digital filters to be active at once. The cutoff frequency of the filter was intended to be flexible and dependent on user adjustment.

About shelves being easier, it's simpler to make a shelf in a real product acoustically or electrically.

Olive 2015 study included more listeners without controls on listening experience or auditory condition.
The less experienced/younger listeners would tend to add more bass than the initial data set.

>measurements
Only seen Ety's internal measurement.

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>>56168391
>phillips shp9500
please stop memeing these. there is no point buying them now when they're almost double the price of what they used to be.

>>56168633
I would say think hard on that vs the hd600. that being said, it's much easier to find a cheap k702/q701 or even a k712 than it is to find a cheap hd600.

>>56168823
so comfortable with laid back treble, and closed?
CAL, though if you don't want a warm sound and you do want something closer to neutral you could probably step up to a v6.

>>56169399
>>56169374
the hd600 doesn't have no soundstage, infact it's quite good, just less than an AKG or the 598 imo. and I don't buy more upper-mids = more soundstage. the v6 has a lot of presence in that region, but it has one of the most narrow stages I have ever heard.

>>56169876
generally no, but it depends on the IEM. basically yes there are IEMs that are worth it at $100+, but they are in the extreme minority in terms of the offerings. stuff like the piston 3 really does punch at if not best IEMs that are over $100.

>>56170554
compare them? I'm at a loss of where to go after getting most of the "best" stuff in the reasonable price ranges. should I just wait to break into kilobuck? or is something like the 400i really worth it if you have an hd600 already?

>>56182650
>the v6 has a lot of presence in that region, but it has one of the most narrow stages I have ever heard.
it's the lack of presence in that region that is supposed to give a sense of wider stage

>>56182650
>should I just wait to break into kilobuck?
I don't know.
>compare them?
HD600 is a better all rounder. HE-400i is different like you can hear the sub-bass and it's better than HD600 for gaming. And I prefer HD600's vocals for movies.

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>Budget
~90-120 USD

>Location
Houston, Tx

>Source
Plugged into mobo of computer for vidya and occasionally my phone for music

>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear. I have slight cauliflower ear from 8 years of wrestling so I cant do anything else without minor pain/discomfort

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
8/10 or higher

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral but don't really care

>Past headphones
Some Bose SoundTrue I got on sale for really cheap. Everything else was Best But tier


About time to upgrade to some decent headphones

What's the purpose of a DAC really?

If you already have a decent chip on your motherboard or a soundcard shouldn't you just get an amp? For some reason every time I look for a desktop amp they're always a DAC/Amp and its fucking frustrating. Then any amp I find is more expensive than the DAC/Amp combo

>>56183485
It will make you feel like you're getting better sound but in reality it's the same.

>>56183485
Some suffer from interference from other components on the motherboard. Moving the DAC offboard fixes this issue.

>>56183637
2nd.

That's the only reason i got a DAC. My computer keeps making this audible high pitch noise at random internals usually when playing back movies and such. It got really bad once i started putting load on my graphics card.

My DAC removed all of this. This sound out of a tiny bit better, but obliviously that alone does not justify most DACs costs. Most people buy DACs for their features and less for performance. Spending more than $100 for a DAC itself with no features or multiple imputs is retarded.

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Daily remind that integrated audio is good enough to cover both sides of sound range of what human ear can hear. Buying DAC or amp for more than 50$ is autism. Headphones is all what matters.

>>56183900
Buying a HD800 is the number one symptom of hyperautism.

>>56183485
completely pointless outside of studio production use unless you have noticeable interference on your current setup (older computers had this)

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Embrace the autism

>>56183900
Spending that much for a DAC then yeah maybe.

Amplification though, is fucking important. It's not unreasonable to spend big bucks on it, provided what you are connecting into needs kind of power.

>>56183900
amps are used for high impedance units
has nothing to do with sound range

>>56183973
>when you dont know shit about audio and just buy what head-fi tells you to

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>>56184013

>>56184013
he would be better off using the amp from that (very good) dac

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>>56183991
>amps are used for high impedance units

>>56184028
I sold the Valhalla 2 in favour of the HPA2.

>>56184044
>implying anything about that statement is wrong outside of your delusional audiocuck mind

>>56183485
The only way they would be of benefit is if you had a particulaly bad one on a compact device such as a phone or if you wanted to add superior surround sound decoding. Otherwise its snake oil.

>>56184028
Not for high impedance, but for inefficient units. DS4 can drive HD800 without problem as do my integrated audio on MB and in surface pro. Only nexus 4 unable to drive even for adequate volume.

>>56184352
I actually don't believe you. I don't believe that all of these devices sound the same and are all audibly transparent.

>>56184489
Sure. If you want, than don't. I will play Uncharted 4 with stunning sound quality. Need to set audio to 70% as it is too loud on 100.

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Not sure which one of you recommended the Soundmagic E10/Piston 3/Zircons/KZ ATE but thanks mate.

Looking forward to it.

>>56177896
N I G G E R B A S S
>>56178373
>big slap in the face of etymotic
Etymotic is all about accuracy, that target curve is in no way accurate.

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M 100

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Anyone know a good bluetooth wireless adapter to connect to my m50x's to my phone? Or should I just get some Jaybird X2's for $70?

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>>56185141
What's the optimal headphone for UPLIFTING TRANCE and JPOP? I literally listen to nothing else.

Budget is 150 bucks.

>>56185117
Accurate based on what standard? Diffuse field is not accurate for headphones or IEMs. All of the target curves currently are moving targets.

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>>56185193
I LOVE THE M 100

BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE SONY MDR XB500 IF YOU CAN FIND THEM

How do I take better care of my IEMs?
I have literally killed roughly 6 pairs of decent IEMs in the past 4-5 years.
Not even joking, I've lost 2 pairs of VSonic GR07s, a pair of VSonic GR06s, a pair of Havi Pro B3s, a pair of Brainwavz M1s, and a pair of VSonic GR02s in the past 4 years.
Every single time I've broken a pair, they all have the same issue: one ear usually starts crackling/stops working entirely whenever the cable moves, and eventually it'll wind up that both sides stop working unless you fiddle with the wire.
I wear my IEMs almost religiously, i.e. 8+ hours a day, but I can't keep sinking money into them if I'm going to end up breaking them. I'm fairly sure the main reason for the damage is the wires get caught on various knobs around the house and end up getting ripped out of the jack, but even when I try to be careful it'll still end up happening. What should I do /hpg/?

>>56185175
Depending on if your phone is A2DP or AptX compatible. Otherwise any 4.1 adapter.

>>56185221
That's wrong, diffuse field is accurate.

Those new target curves are too subjective in nature to be called accurate.

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>>56185193
Look at Audio Techinca offerings if want to go full weeb and listen to that kind of stuff. They are made for vocals and dat soundstage.

>>56185193
If you are on west coast you could possibly get Beats Solo 2 for 150 at Best Buy - best for that price range.

>>56185474
Is the Solo2 better than the Sennheiser Urbanite?

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I understand this is an indirectly off topic question, but this is currently the most relatable thread for it currently.

But, if you current own a subwoofer for your desktop audio, what do you currently use. And/or, what you suggest?

I couldn't find all the older reference materials for this stupid question sorry.

>>56185396
>How do I take better care of my IEMs?
Get a endgame >$1000 IEM. You will treat it with respect and be conscious about not losing it. If you don't like multi BA IEMs get a KSE1500.

>>56185766
>KSE1500
garbage

>>56185816
You're garbage. Don't tell me HD600>KSE1500 right? I think you will say this.

>>56185766
everything in campfire audio's lineup > kse1500

>>56174937
Havi b3p1

Best IEM under $20?

>>56186034
Probably the Xiaomi Piston 3.
It's like $15 USD.

IS the MA750 the best IEM for around $100? I had the Bose IE2 but the cord has planned obsolescence in it and is breaking.

Want to buy a HD600 in the coming months (poor, other priorities) but I'm also thinking of getting a new phone for next year.

I've seen that some manufactures are replacing 3.5mm jack with straight usb-c on some phones.
How will this effect me? If I want to buy said phone will I have to do something like external DAC?

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>>56180124
Some Superlux perhaps? The Evo has comfy pads, but is not very durable.
>>56180317
>>56183246
MDR7506
Add Auray Sheep Skin pads if it fits your budged, it's more comfortable, durable and isolates better than the stock pads.
>>56181342
I believe you can get the DT770 80ohms for 110 Euro bucks, it's very worth the extra few bucks.
>>56181844
Can't you get a DT880? Most people i know who don't like the general Sennheiser signature enjoy the V-shapped FR on the DT880.
You could also go for the DT770, it's closed back though, so you might not like it.
Alternatively you could grab a DT990 and EQ down the extra treble and bass to you liking, but that's not something i usually suggest since most people don't really know who to properly EQ.
>>56182650
I don't buy the "upper-mids = more stage" as well, it does make some sense, but i believe there's more to it, also, yeah, HD600 has ap retty good stage if you ask me, positional accuracy is damn nice!

>>56185396
>How do I take better care of my IEMs?
A case helps.
Cables are the central point of failure, so soldering them back together or getting a model with replaceable cables will do.

>>56185689
For something entry level, consider one of those cheap Dayton audio subs. Bigger sub driver will have more low end extension and output.

>>56186258
>Cables are the central point of failure, so soldering them back together or getting a model with replaceable cables will do.
You could also just rewire your own cables and make them very manly and strong.

>>56167670
hav akg k501
Sound is loud enough,but tinny af.
Do need amp?

>>56167736
dat boii ab fab

>>56168086
Fcuk you for not choosing ABU ABUUU guy

>>56185825
You tell me, do you think KSE1500 is better than HD600?

>>56186149
There will be USB-C to headphone adapters.

External DACs are dumb.

http://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/08/shure-kse1500-iem.html

I don't know how anyone can find KSE1500 acceptable, this is like $30 tier sound for $3000.

>>56186956
Meanwhile the old baby stax, which is ~5% the cost has more impressive measurements.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR003SA1993.pdf

I'm all for more estats in the wild, but it seems like companies just want to jump on the bandwagon and charge a golden egg for subpar products.

>>56186132
RE400 and HF5 are better. The only thing the MA750 has going for it is the build quality and warranty.

>>56186465
>Sound is loud enough,but tinny af.
>Do need amp?
Probably not. Might want to get another headphone.

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>>56186225
Will I need an amp for the MDR 7506?

And in general at what impedence will someone generally need one?

>>56187145
No.

For regular dynamic 'phones generally you'd start looking at an amp once they're 250+ohm. Although really you should look at sensitivity as well as impedance. An HE-6 is low impedance, but extremely insensitive.

>>56187145
>Will I need an amp for the MDR 7506?
doesnt need an amp

this is a generalization but i'd say 250ohm and upwards typically need amps

>>56187186
it's a very wrong generalization at that.

>>56187199
you're wrong

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>>56187199
well correct him

>>56187217
>>56187247
it's not something you can generalize when low impedance headphones can require amps and high impedance ones generally don't.

it's better to assume you won't need one because only a select few headphones actually need a powerful amplifier like the k1000, he-6 and dt880 600ohm.

>>56187268
>dt880 600ohm.
At 94.0 dB SPL/mW, a K702 is harder to drive.

>>56187287
>a K702 is harder to drive.
"no"
K612 is the hard to drive AKG headphone anyway, but

>Vrms required to reach 90dB SPL
>DT880 600ohm
0.514Vrms
>K702
0.322Vrms
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT880600ohm.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK702.pdf

>>56186465
Try an EQ instead. The wiki has a guide written for Windows, there are alternative methods for other platforms.
Make cuts at 2 kHz and 6kHz. Add more bass, and keep adding until you like it.
If you can't add more bass, then you get an amplifier. Or get a different headphone.

>>56186914
Those would necessarily have their own D/A conversion step.

>>56169876
>GR07
This used to be the value IEM. How things change.

>is it really worth spending over $100
The most subjective and personal question you could possibly ask.
>have so much less SQ and clarity
Most of that comes from the frequency response, magnitude and phase. You can control that somewhat through EQ.
As for distortion, moving coil in-ears can produce very low distortion if glaring errors are avoided in assembly.
This all sounds promising for good sound on the cheap.

If we step back from frequency targets for a moment, in-ear headphones should have nice channel matching, low distortion, with well damped resonances. Sharp phase cancellation nulls should be avoided.
EQ can't defeat a notch filter, nor can it deal with changing response from undamped resonances. Inconsistent sealing is another problem, but sleeves can comes from other products.

Cheap in-ears often have less focus on quality control or competent design. Plenty of stinkers and cases incompetence for more money, but cheap ones almost never implement design fixes and improvements that would cost on the order of cents per product.

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just a curious anon here-
is it normal that some 3.5mm jacks are slightly/unoticeably bent?
Do note it's brandnew

>>56174134
HM5 if you want something large and close to neutral sounding. CAL if you want something smaller that sounds very warm/bassy. I would not get the Denon, the CAL does everything it does better.

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>>56187365
here is pic related
its slightly curved up

>>56187432
>]
not the best qc but its acceptable

>>56187438
is there a way to unbend it? or will that make things worst

>>56185429
>too subjective in nature to be called accurate.

The same can be said for DF.

>>56178815
558 w/ foam mod or 598, whichever is cheaper. it's going to sound a good bit less bassy than those though. I love them too but they are still v-shaped, like most IEMs.

>>56181844
681 evo

>>56181953
just buy a chink one that looks decent it sounds the same.

>>56187657
the sennheiser one is actually the cheapest for the 3m length I could find based on a quick ebay search

>>56187432
as long as it's not messed up enough to break inside the port, you're fine

it's not normal obviously

>>56185396
hje-120k. you can buy a 4-pack for like $20-30. just buy a shitload. personally I built up a stock of IEMs just buying cheapos to try, so I always have one on me as a backup and some left at home.

>>56186149
>>56186914
replacing the 3.5mm jack is retarded. if you're going to go as far as to force the user to use a headphone with an integrated dac and amp, it might as well be wireless. there is no point in a phone being thinner than 4mm either, if anything phones need bigger batteries.

>>56187472
just leave it, it's not sitting in the plastic housing perfectly which is giving it that angle, the jack itself should be straight and the wiring should be fine.

>>56187673
didn't know you needed it that long but honestly just buy a short one for $15 and use an extender. it would be better for snags that way too.

>>56187919
yeah, that's a good plan. There is a short chink one going on auction so if the stock cable isn't in stock by then I will try to get it.

I was gonna buy the sound magic e80 based on recommendations here but they just jumped up to $75 on Amazon. Did sound magic change the MSRP?

>>56168343
>Objective2
Keyword cheap you illiterate

>>56188722
It is cheap you destitute.

>>56188730
If you think $189.99 is cheap then you might as well wire me that spare change you have in your pocket rich boy.

>>56188765
The O2 amp alone should only be $100. Where on earth are you seeing it for $189?

>>56188730
>small loan of a million dollars

>>56188765
he said o2 not o2+odac you illiterate swine

>>56188784
>>56188787
https://www.amazon.com/Objective2-headphone-amplifier-JDS-LABS/dp/B00E0DMCO0

First result on google.

>>56188765
SMSL SD793-II is around $65

>>56188794
you're an idiot

>>56188794
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/35/objective2-headphone-amplifier/

Hurr durr. Spoilers: it's even cheaper than this if you solder it together yourself.

>>56173556
>tfw Chinese k7xx

>>56183485
No point from a sound quality perspective of course if the one you have on your motherboard works fine. Discrete DACs often come with other features too than the simple DA-conversion. Many act as preamps and most sound cards do AD-conversion. Then there are cases where the one on your motherboard simply doesn't work well: has audible interference, hiss or anything that shouldn't be there. You might want to consider getting a sound card or a discrete unit on your desktop to avoid those issues.

>>56183991
>amps are used for high impedance units
No. Amplifiers are used for all headphones and many work fine on the amps integrated to computers, phones etc. Discrete and more powerful amplifiers are used for less sensitive headphones. Impedance is not a concern.

>>56186258
I don't have a sub on my desktop, just a pair of loudspeakers. I'd personally hunt for a used Genelec 7050 series sub for myself but the placement and tuning of it kind of put me off from purchasing one. The speakers I use play decently low for most of the stuff I listen and I'd suggest getting a good pair of loudspeakers first and considering a sub if those aren't enough. The Dayton suggestion you got is fine for a budget option, SVS makes some great subs and really, you can integrate most subs to your setup if you have a way to measure and tune their response.

>>56165544
>>56165729
>Is this a scam, will he reply?
Well he hasn't replied yet. 100% scam!

>Budget
up to 200£
>Location
UK
>Source
xperia x performance
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear, wireless
>Open or closed
preferably closed, don't mind open though
>Comfort level
at least 8/10, very important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, wide soundstage
>Past headphones
Sony mdr10rc, Sony mdr1

>>56190623
Alex Garcia shipping from China/HK... I wonder if this is a scam guys...

>>56190623
Straight up from the price you can tell it's a scam. Not exactly difficult.

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DT770 Pro or DT250?

Anyone tried the more recent Koss headphones? Specifically the Pro 4S, SP540 or SP330. All I know is that Tyll likes them.

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>>56167670
Alcohol and headphones ;)

>>56190885
> Tyll likes them
Tyll also says that the HD600 is better than HD650 and he also likes the Fidelio X2. Most likely he waa paid by Koss to promote their products. Stop licking Tyll's ass as if he was a reliable authority.

>>56191199
Or it's just his opinion, not some conspiracy about being paid off.

>>56191225
> opinion
Do you know that his opinion contrast with his own measurements 80% of the times?

>>56191270
That's why it's an opinion, not a measurement tool. Duh.

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What does /g/ think of the audio technica AD700?

>>56191199
If I was licking Tyll's ass I wouldn't have asked for other opinions.

To be specific he said that the cheaper one was surprisingly good, and the flagship was just OK. Not a great promotion really.

>>56191426
Worse price/performance ratio than other closed headphones in the same prince range.

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Any better Bluetooth headphones for less than 30 aud?
>>56167670

>>56191270
Imagine that. Someone who can be in both the subjective and objective camps at the same time.

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>>56191451
I bough them used for less than 1/4 of the price new

>>56191569
For that price they're worthy.

>>56191569
Lacks bass but a fine pair otherwise.

>>56191569
disgusting earpads

>>56191451
they're open

>>56167670
Looking for the smallest wireless earbuds available

- budget - $300

- battery life - >2 hours

>>56191505
Haven't tried them myself, but I can't imagine a cheap bluetooth headphone sounding any good. You could probably get a wired headphone 4x better at that price

>>56167670
>Budget
50€ - 150€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Onboard sound (MSI Realtek)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High comfort, ideally I'd like to be able to lie in bed (on my back) while wearing them as well
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Past headphones
Just $10 OEM shit

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>>56192735
Forgot to mention, I think I would prefer something with a “fittable” headband, i.e. something like this, rather than something where the headband is just a rigid cushioned band

I also think I would prefer it if the cups were relatively small

what are headphones with similar quality of Sennhiesers Momentum over ear line. I need a cheaper alternative. I just sold my sens because I needed the money for an SSD.

reason I don't want them again because I felt like I paid for material quality not the audio quality itself.

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>>56167670
>Budget
$350-500 / €310-440
>Location
Poland
>Source
Currently Maya U5 -> Upgrade to FiiO e17k(?)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I wear headphones 12 hours a day. I can do that with HD439. I only wear them when I sit in front of my PC and nowhere else.
>Preferred tonal balance
I dunno. I listen to a lot of rock, electronic, orchestral music with vocals, soundtracks etc., but I do like good bass, not too much though, so maybe v-shaped?
>Past headphones
HD210, HD439

>Budget
100$/88€
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
USB or 3.5mm jack
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As long as it's comfy for around 6-7 hours a day
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't really care
>Past headphones
Logitech G230

>Going to buy a modmic or any alternative

>soundstage
>real

>>56191569
>CRT
>gay keycaps mini keyboard

Full meme

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>buy aux cable for headphones
>the cable tip isnt completely level so it moves around in the female jack in headphones, cutting off audio.

>>56193718
looks like a fan of twitch shooters tbqh famalan

keycaps are full meme tho

>>56186225
>Can't you get a DT880? Most people i know who don't like the general Sennheiser signature enjoy the V-shapped FR on the DT880.
>You could also go for the DT770, it's closed back though, so you might not like it.
>Alternatively you could grab a DT990 and EQ down the extra treble and bass to you liking, but that's not something i usually suggest since most people don't really know who to properly EQ.

Thank you for your suggestion, but these DT are very expensive and require an amp because they're 250ohm. I know they made a low impedence one but I can't find it anywhere for less than 200€. Eventually I got the Urbanite, hopefully they won't be too basshead. From what I can tell, compared to beads which are mud beasts the Urbanite have less bloated and more high quality bass and better mids & slightly veiled but still detailed highs... Also they have velour pads which I think are better for me, and according to reviews they should have better soundstage than the M50.

>Budget
$100 give or take
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop or S7 Edge
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open, I have a pair of Senn HD280 that are closed and give me a headache after 30 min
>Comfort level
One of the most important aspects, really want them to to comfy for long periods and not hurt my head
>Preferred tonal balance
dont't care really, neutral I guess?
>Past headphones
mostly junk

After years of HD555 + Roland tricapture, I upgraded to HD600 + Uber Schiit stack.

I am now entry level.

>>56195002
>I am now entry level.

No. You're now done. Don't spend a penny more and enjoy.

>>56195002
>HD600
>entry level

You won't find anything better than these headphones. The price might be entry level but the performance isn't.

>>56195002
No you're poor snob /hpg/ meme-tier level. Entry level would be the HD650 + Fiio E10K.

>>56195002
HD 600 is mid-fi
Schiit stack is endgame

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I go through a set of cheap ear buds or IEM about 2/4 times a year. It is always due to water damage from rain, or physical wear and tear damage to the cable. Most of the time, one of the two channels die, and I'm left with just one side working. And then I replace the item when both channels are fucked. My question is - referring to build quality - what aspect is most important to take care of with portable in-ear headphones? The cable, the connector, or the earpiece? I intuitively presume it's the cable. I live in a rainy country, and listen to my music and audio lectures and stuff outside. I want as much protection from the rain as possible. Also, protection from wear and tear damage, bending the cable. When considering a new purchase, the build quality is important to me. But is the cable housing more important than how the 3.5mm connector or earpiece, in terms of protection from damage?

I am stuck with a shitty generic headphone, and while i am not very demanding, everything in this one sounds muffled and mixed, while my old one had a very clear sound.

Is it fixable, through some software, or i need a new one?

>>56195002
You're pretty much done. kilobuck headphones are a meme made for people with money

>>56195596
Has it always sounded like that? If you want something new and cheap go for Porta Pros or SoundMagic

>>56195742

It is brand new, no really good headphones where i live, had to buy a cheap one in a local store after my father busted my old one.

Sounds very muffled.

>>56195778
Not much you can do short of buying a different pair. Maybe mess around with EQ settings and see if something makes them usable

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HD650s for 300 on SD, upgrade from M50s,
will i fit in now?

Would an Astro Mixamp be enough for DT770 Pro 80 ohms?

>>56196040
yeah on reddit

>>56196124
reddit pretends to like the hd600 better

>>56167670
I'm looking to buy a headset for gaming/listening to music. I already have a microphone so i don't need any 'gaming' stuff. So far I have it down to the sennheiser hd 449 and 518 both seem good but I'm leaning more to the 518. Any advice would be much appreciated if you dont recommend either, what would be a good choice for under 150 canadian?

>>56196190
Also, my ears tend to sweat a lot with leather covers, which is also another reason for the 518

>>56195483
Usually the cable.
Normally you consider the plug and the cable together.

The points subject to the most strain are at the junction of the plug and cable, the y-split, and the junction of the cable and earpieces. These parts are supposed to have robust strain reliefs to minimize that. Cables can break at other sections as well, depending on how it is strained and bent.
Gently wrap up the wires and put it in a small pocket sized case if you don't want the wires to get tangled and worn out in your pockets. It can also keep some water away.

>the earpiece
You mean the driver itself?
Dirt, hair, and other things can get stuck inside without a filter guarding it. For water intrusion, you just have to let it dry out. That can be difficult inside the tight confined earpieces.

The Sennheiser HD 800 S is being removed for lack of bass extension and response. I think Sennheiser did a good job updating this headphone, but its somewhat thin and analytical nature significantly detracts from its otherwise exemplary characteristics such as its deep, wide imaging or superb transient response.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/adjustments-1000-circumaural-open-wall-fame

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I can already taste the HD800/S owners' tears.

>>56196853
Am I the only one who uses my headphones together with a dedicated subwoofer?

(Not a HD 800 owner btw, I just don't think headphones can reproduce bass adequately)

>>56170501
>>56170604
Keep in mind the Pistons don't isolate as well as the CX 200.

On the other hand, they have a sturdier cable that produces almost no noise, and sound slightly more detailed overall.

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>>56196853
Time to kill myself, I can't live on without Tyll's approval.

On another note those Elears look really uncomfortable since they're HD600 shaped.

>>56196853
Isn't it time for Sennheiser to release an HD900 to reclaim the high end market?

HD800(S) was a success for the company but it was a shit headphone from a purely sound based perspective.

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>>56196853
> caring about Tyll's opinions

>>56197088
Have you personally listened to it?

>>56197008
squeak squeak

>>56197120
HD800 and HD800S? Yes.

>>56197088
We're not in the 90's anymore, nobody cares about DF.

>Budget 150~
>Location canada
>Preferred type of headphone over ear
>Open or closed both are fine
>Comfort level max 150$ of comfort
>Past headphones currently using razer kraken 2.1
I'm looking for something to replace them, I have a microphone so I don't need that addition

I'd prefer material cups over leather, but leather works fine.

>>56197138
I never said anything specifically about diffuse field equalization, the HD800's stock frequency response has been discussed to death here. We all know why they are considered shit headphones by many.

>>56197236
>>56197236
>>56197236

New thread.

>>56187145
>>56194236
>And in general at what impedence will someone generally need one?
>require an amp because they're 250ohm.
Amplifiers don't directly revolve around impedance or power. They deal in voltage and they are designed to be voltage sources, at least as well as they can be.
When you plug in two different headphones with identical voltage sensitivity into amp that provides identical voltage they have the same loudness, even if they have wildly different impedance or power requirements.

Where impedance comes into play is that the amplifier does not have an infinite ability to deliver electric current. If the amplifier runs out of current, it craps out. For the same voltage, less impedance requires more current.

For cases such as Beyer and Sennhesier headphone models available in different nominal impedance, each line has the same power consumption for a given loudness. The voltage sensitivity is different, and the higher impedance versions require more voltage.


>>56196891
Pressure chamber is the most optimal condition to maximize bass extension. This excludes conventional loudspeaker listening in a normal room. A car is a better approximation if all doors and windows are closed with a gasket.
Most over-ear headphones deliberately introduce leakage, so the potential of the pressure chamber tends to break down, but it does allow to 20-30 Hz extension. Planar electrostatic, planar electrodynamic headphones, and in-ears tend to fulfill the condition better.