>you only need 8GB of ram

>>56197213
Depending on what you want to do you may need even less than that.

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I have 32 gig. Will I be ok?

>>56197273
No, you need 64 as an absolute minimum. Preferably 128.

>>56197273
I have eleven and I can't even load your stupid image.

I have 2x2 and only 2 slots.

What should a man do in this situation?

>>56197213
3GiB oughtta be enuff or anybody.

>>56197379
Download more ram

>>56197379
replace with 2x8

>>56197461
You just saved me 100 bucks, thanks based anon.

>>56197273
>.gif.gif

>>56197487
No problem man, always there to help :^)

>>56197379
what's your motherboard
what do you do on your computer

>>>>56197213
>He fell for the 16 GiB RAM meme

>>56197273
Same. Feels comfy.
16 is a

>>56198756
You see? This is why you need 64GB, at least.

Motherfucker couldn't even complete the sentence because he ran out of memory.

I forgot. What was your face when you fell for the 16gb meme again?

>>56197361
Stop using dialup. Your connection speed has to do wtih the gif speed, not how much RAM you have.

>>56197213
It entirely depends on the use case. I've got a laptop with 1.25GiB, a laptop with 5GiB, a netbook with 2GiB, and a desktop with 6GiB. The only machine I've got that really needs more RAM is a UMPC that only has 512MiB.

Just recently upgraded from 2x2GB to 2x4GB :-)

>>56198938

you, sir, are going to have the best internet browsing experience EVAR

>>56198975
>>>/out/

>most my users only have 2GB of RAM
I have to try to convince them they don't need more.

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>>56198987
I sure wish I had 2gb

yes guys I know I have a 64bit OS

>>56199012
>yes guys I know I have a 64bit OS
How is that relevant? If you've got a 64-bit processor you should be using a 64-bit OS, you're doing it right.

>>56199012

the 64bit OS is not the issue
the issue is your 60+ temps

>>56199068
I fucking love you

>>56199068
>>>/global/rules/3

>>56199095
Mad "GiB not GB!" pedantic autist detected

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Ordered 2x8GB because only having 4GB shared between Windows 10 and Gentoo means I don't have enough ram to run Steam for streaming.

>>56199130
I've actually already posted about my RAM amounts in the thread and labeled them properly using the IEC standard. Regardless, your shitposts don't belong anywhere but /b/.

>>56199166
>worst tripfaggot on /g/ uses the worst OS he possibly could
Why am I not surprised

>>56199206
I'm not actually using it for anything more than Steam so I don't care.

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>>56197213
>Dedup file system
>Have 32GB
>Need 64GB

>>56197379
install windows xp 32 bit

>>56199524
Are you retarded?

>>56199565
No, but I think you are if you're taking my post seriously

>>56199783
It's hard not to. You really are retarded if you don't think there are people on /g/ as dumb as you were pretending to be.

>>56199166
Nobody cares about your ram fucking tripfag

>>56199171
euphoric troll my man, have my upvote!

>>56200152
The fuck are you on about?

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>>56199253

Totally depends on what you do.
2GB text editing, other light tasks
4GB YT, FB, any office, light gaming
8GB more intense gaming, also fulfills most needs for developing
16GB You're pretty much set for now
>16GB Heavy stuff, most of which will never concern most of /g/

>>56197361
>11GB RAM
wut?

>>56200455
I have 15 gigs of ram and can't even see your post

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I have 2 gig of ram and I can shitpost just as well as any of you faggots

>>56199012
May I ask why? It's dirt cheap, and even if you're poor you could just steal some from a normie that will never know it's missing

>>56200455
1x8 and 3x1

>>56198975
I used to have Firefox with in excess of 600 tabs open on a 3GiB machine.

>>56197213
At least you ain't attempting to kill yourself.

>>56199029
>If you've got a 64-bit processor you should be using a 64-bit OS,
Have you been using a 64-bit OS since you first had a 64-bit-capable CPU installed (maybe over a decade ago with only 512 or even 256 MiB of RAM)? Did everyone ditch DOS once they got off their 286 onto a 386 CPU, just because the latter was 32-bit?

>>56197213
your average person will rarely use more than 4GB

8GB is the comfy zone

>>56200616
>Have you been using a 64-bit OS since you first had a 64-bit-capable CPU installed
Yes.

>>56199838
Sadly this is very true, even Pajeets will shill for XP.

>>56199012
Doesn't win7 take like a gig to start up. Does your pagefile shit on your computer trying to use any browser

Uh yeah 8GB of ram is more than enough for the vast majority of users, certainly for gaming.

>inb4 i run skyrim with mods and use 32GB of ram.

You're an edge case.

>>56200635
Then either you had a 64-bit CPU very late, or you installed something like 64-bit XP for no reason whatsoever.

>>56200715
I'm running GTA 5 on medium settings and using up 7.5gigs of ram. 8gigs would be cutting it really close desu.

>>56200732
3 years after the first 64-bit consumer machines hit the market isn't very late at all.
>64-bit XP for no reason whatsoever
Having a 64-bit processor is more than enough of a reason to use 64-bit XP.

>>56200662
>tfw the same people who are dodging botnet updates for 7/8.1 and declared they won't stop updating once you can't cherrypick updates anymore have a problem with XP because it's not receiving updates

>upgraded from 4GB to 8GB
>difference was only noticeable in gaymes
If you're not professionally editing video/audio and have over 4GB, then fuck off to /v/

>>56200715
>>56200760
You want as much ram as you can afford. More is always better.

>>56200782
Eat a dick dipshit you don't understand how ram is used. Its beneficial for any workload and you will use all of it.

>>56199012
>>56199029
64bit windows needs more ram than 32bit, you fucking retards

>>56200763
How much RAM did you have in 2006, 1GiB? How much did you pointlessly waste due to 64-bit pointers? Again, who installed a 32-bit operating system on his 386 machine in 1985 (or even in 1988, if you want to insist on your 3 year gap)?

>>56200800
filtered

>>56200807
>Again, who installed a 32-bit operating system on his 386 machine in 1985 (or even in 1988, if you want to insist on your 3 year gap)?
The few people who wanted to use OS/2 on their super expensive workstations.

>>56200419
Oh dear, how did people edit text or do anything at all before we had 2GiB of RAM in our machines? The list is such bullshit. You can do fine with much less memory than that.

>>56200803
No shit

>>56200807
>How much RAM did you have in 2006
2GiB
>How much did you pointlessly waste due to 64-bit pointers?
Are you one of those retards who thinks 64-bit's only advantage is the ability to address >4GB RAM?
>Again, who installed a 32-bit operating system on his 386 machine in 1985 (or even in 1988, if you want to insist on your 3 year gap)?
How should I know? I wasn't even alive.

>>56200858
if you tried to buy less ram then that, your costs would start going up

>>56200871
>How should I know? I wasn't even alive.
Oh ok, so you were a kiddo back then who carelessly jumped onto a 64-bit OS because why not.

>Are you one of those retards who thinks 64-bit's only advantage is the ability to address >4GB RAM?
No, but 99% of programs back then were 32-bit anyway, so what benefit did you expect really besides some bragging rights perhaps? You were wasting memory and running 32-bit programs in a 64-bit OS, and possibly had some driver issues which XP 64-bit was infamous for, was it really worth it?

>>56200510
Why

>2016
>not having a 10gb ramdisk to store the cache of your games and programs.

I really hope you don't do this.

>>56200933
>Oh ok, so you were a kiddo back then who carelessly jumped onto a 64-bit OS because why not.
How was it careless? Bought a 64-bit machine and it came with a 64-bit OS, just like a 64-bit machine should.
>so what benefit did you expect really besides some bragging rights perhaps?
The ability to run 64-bit programs.
>You were wasting memory
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. It'd be a different story if I was always running out of RAM, but I fucking wasn't.
>and running 32-bit programs in a 64-bit OS
Along with 64-bit programs.
>and possibly had some driver issues which XP 64-bit was infamous for
I've never used 64-bit XP
>was it really worth it?
Of course.

>>56200510
I could shitpost from a Pentium II if I wanted, with 2 of its 3 sticks of RAM removed.

>>56200455
11GiB is doable (althogh admittedly a bit awkward). Now if he said he has that amount of RAM running in dual channel, that would be much more of a curiosity.

>>56200957
What "cache" are you talking about?
>>56200969
Of course, 512MB is enough for shitposting,

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>2016
>/g/ is still unironically arguing about whether you should run xp 32 bit or xp 64 bit

>>56200968
So what kind of OS was it? You hardly were running a business in 2006 if yo weren't alive in 1985 or 1988, so you didn't have Vista in 2006. What kind of 64-bit programs were you using in 2006? It was basically only professionall stuff like 3D graphics, CAD, etc. and some niche high-performance appliances. Or was it a server with Win2k3 64-bit?

>>56201006
>Of course, 512MB is enough for shitposting,
Even much less if you use the right OS and browser.

>>56201006
I keep the chrome and waterfox cache on there. It's pretty useful when streaming large video files.

I keep all my windows temp folders there, which many games and programs use. And the ones that doesn't, can be forced to through an .ini edit.

First it saves your SSD, which keeps getting overwritten by cache junk, second ram is still the fastest storage out there, so there is a massive performance boost.

If you like having long uptimes you may even install your games onto a ramdisk and forget about load times or stutters.

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>you only need 3.5GB of vram

>>56201063
>So what kind of OS was it?
Vista
>You hardly were running a business in 2006 if yo weren't alive in 1985 or 1988
Where the fuck did I say anything about running a business?
>so you didn't have Vista in 2006
I thought Vista was available everywhere in 06, guess it was 07.
>What kind of 64-bit programs were you using in 2006?
How the fuck should I know? It was 10 years ago.

>>56201063
You can found a business the moment you turn 18, fuckwad. Not everyone fucked up their childhood like you. Some kids -GASP- saved up their shekels and didn't blow it all on gaymen hardware.

>>56201120
Vista was available only to businesses in 2006. Most OEM preinstalls on consumer machines since 2007 were 32-bit, whether Home Basic or Home Premium, and for very good reasons (cited above). You probably insisted on getting the 64-bit version, and if you don't even remember what 64-bit programs you were using back then (as I said 99% were 32-bit) then probably there were hardly any at all. I have a hunch that you're just trying to persistently stand your ground that your decision to necessarily run a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit-capable CPU must have been a right one irrespectively of anything else. If you really had a reason to run a 64-bit OS back than, you would have remembered why, and if you were using that PC just for generic forgettable stuff, then you didn't have much reason.

>>56201165
You can, but what percentage of people does it? I suppose it's the overwhelming minority, and I'm not even accounting for the average poster around imageboards.

>>56201208
What are you using in on, running some VMs?

>>56197213
Literally the only reason I might upgrade from comfy 8gb is for better timings and fear of not meeting minimum specs for games in the future

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>>56197213
>not having 32gbs of registered ecc ram

>>56201216
>Vista was available only to businesses in 2006
Which is why I said "must've been 07"
>You probably insisted on getting the 64-bit version
Nope.
>and if you don't even remember what 64-bit programs you were using back then (as I said 99% were 32-bit) then probably there were hardly any at all
I know for a fact that I was because I can remember downloading 64-bit programs due to having a 64-bit OS.
>I have a hunch that you're just trying to persistently stand your ground that your decision to necessarily run a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit-capable CPU must have been a right one irrespectively of anything else.
Your hunch is wrong and retarded.
>If you really had a reason to run a 64-bit OS back than
I did, I had a 64-bit CPU.
>you would have remembered why
I do remember why, I just said it. It was because I had a 64-bit CPU.
>and if you were using that PC just for generic forgettable stuff, then you didn't have much reason.
As I've previously stated, having a 64-bit CPU is more than enough of a reason to use a 64-bit OS.

>>56201291
i was gunna buy ecc ram but it was >50% more expensive than non-ecc, so i said fuck it and went with the non-ecc

>>56201363
I got the whole workstation for like 30 bucks, so.....

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>>56201216
>>56201358
great nostalgic entertainment value in this shitfest

>>56201267
yeah, just running ubuntu and linux mint in a couple of hyper-v vms right now.

i haven't used linux in almost a decade, and it still fucking sucks. which is fucking sad. i think os x ('macOS', lol) is going in the wrong direction after Jobs' death, and Nuetella's mismanagement of Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 in a bad direction.

linux just isn't ever going to catch up. that's the sad truth. getting things 90% there only takes 10% of the time. that final 10% that is 'polish', it is menial, boring, repetitive work tracking down and fixing obscure bugs that no one will do without being paid to. we can laugh at all the pajeets and women that microsoft has nowdays, but the thing they are good at is doing the basic, boring shit that the rockstars can't be bothered to be concerned with. without that, you are just left with a mess of inconsistent, buggy shit, which is what linux (minus the kernel) is.

>>56201432
Err, I've been using openSUSE for about a year now daily, and it's worked pretty well, minus the bash profile fucking up once.

>2006
>Pentium 4 2.53ghz
>512mb of ram
>80GB HDD

>2016
>Core i7 5820k
>16GB of ram
>1TB SSD + 3TB HDD

feels good desu.

meh

>>56201358
>As I've previously stated, having a 64-bit CPU is more than enough of a reason to use a 64-bit OS.
Well, I see you won't budge with this opinion of yours, so be it. As mentioned, if you didn't have specific 64-bit programs to run in 2006-07 and didn't need to map memory above 3 or 4 GiB then running a 64-bit OS was mostly a moot exercise, but believe whatever you want to.

>>56201940
>if you didn't have specific 64-bit programs to run in 2006-07
I had 64-bit programs installed the day I got my computer in 07.

>>56201940
What about....
Fitting applications beyond a 4GB address space, even if they're 32-bit
Extra registers, and other places for optimization in the OS itself

I have 14gb or RAM, am i ok with it?

>tfw 12GB of RAM
>4GB going to VMs

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>>56202020
Forgot pic

>>56201514
well let me give you an example.

i just had to install wine. and it prompted me with some sort of M$ EULA that i had to accept. so i hit enter, nothing happened, i hit a fucking bunch of keys, nothing happened. i had to restart, reset the goddamn apt config file, and then was prompted with the same bullshit. had to google it, apparently i have to hit 'tab' then it will select the 'ok' portion of the cli gui. this is the type of un-intuitive shit that aspies say 'oh why didn't you just look that up on stackoverflow' but that pisses off normies because it's retarded.

fuck. i hate you. and shuttleworth. fuck both of you.

>>56202001
He said he only had 2GiB of RAM. Unless you have a specific high-performance 64-bit application to run, there's no reason to use the 64-bit version with that amount of memory.

>>56201980
>what is causality
>what is cause and effect

They were there only because the OS was 64-bit. Installing 64-bit versions of some random software which you might just as well gotten the 32-bit version of is not a reason to go overboard and run a 64-bit OS with only 2GiB of RAM. But, as I said, whatever floats your boat, it is/was your system, not mine.

>>56202221
Except for the fact that I had a 64-bit CPU. Unless I don't have enough RAM for the (minimal) overhead of 64-bit compared to 32-bit, which I did have enough RAM, there's literally no reason to not use a 64-bit OS.

>>56202149
>apparently i have to hit 'tab' then it will select the 'ok' portion of the cli gui. this is the type of un-intuitive shit that aspies say 'oh why didn't you just look that up on stackoverflow' but that pisses off normies because it's retarded.

Kids these days. It's not unintuitive at all for anyone who has been around computers a bit. You use tab/shift-tab to cycle through buttons/form fields etc., it works in GUI also, even in Windows.

>>56202268
You keep regurgitating how supposedly the CPU is the only thing that matters, even though this was refuted multiple times. You keep disregarding what others say to you and are stubbornly clinging to your belief, thus this discussion is rather pointless.

>>56202149
?
For me, I just did "zypper install wine", then did wine <program>. I occasionally get prompts to install mono and gecko, but that's just one click of an "install" button.

>>56202385
You've yet to tell me why I shouldn't use a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit CPU. The only thing you've said that was even slightly relevant was that a 64-bit OS consumes a bit more RAM, which is a non-issue unless you run out of memory often, which I wasn't so it's not a valid fucking point.

>>56202300
>>56202393
this is exactly what i'm talking about
>lol fucking normie, you didn't think of the exact appropriate solution that i did, you must be some sorta faggot newbie

yeah, i understand tabbing between elements of a form. problem is, not everyone gets this, and even for people that know this (like me), it isn't obvious. so you have this issue, where 'apt install' is normally automatic, EXCEPT where you have to opt-out of the M$ EULA or whatever horseshit, where you have to select shit in the CLI, and you expect people to automatically know these shortcut keys and that they are the appropriate response. because you have to bullshit people because you are so anal about EULA's and licenses that you can't install open-source fonts that vaguely resemble M$ fonts because you are so scared of the legal reprecutions that you have to have normies know about obscure keyboard shortcuts just to install a font-renderer which uses techniques vaguely similar to the ones that M$ has used in the past.

>>56202502
I'm clearly using a different distro than you, what I'm trying to say is that your experience just happened to be worse than mine. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything.

>>56202404
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2gb+ram+64-bit+os

>>56202598
Suck a dick

So I've been using an HP desktop with 2gb of memory for the past decade instead of bothering to buy another computer, will there be a really noticeable difference if I get around to buying something like a laptop with 4 or 8gb?

>>56202550
>I'm clearly using a different distro than you, what I'm trying to say is that your experience just happened to be worse than mine
and that's the fucking problem, man. "well MY DISTRO doesn't have this problem, so it isn't a problem' response. this is why linux will never have any appeal to normies.

>>56202691
It won't ever appeal to normies, and that's a _good_ thing. Linux(and OSes based around it) are not supposed to be homogenous, and a lot of the appeal comes from being able to swap parts of the system for others (EG: systemd for upstart).

>>56202691
Cycling through ncurses interface elements with tab/shift-tab should be an obvious thing to do for anyone who uses them, there's not much to add to that. Maybe ten years from now some kids will throw tantrums that it's not obvious that they have to right-click the mouse to bring up a menu, dunno. Not knowing basic things in nobody else's fault though.

>>56197213
>tfw my machine doesn't exceed 800mb used


I have 8gb but I've never found myself ever coming close to that without using multiple VMs

>>56199253
>implying they meant Windows

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>>56201208
>32gb of memory
>1440x900
lmaoing @ u

>>56202833
I meant Windows 10.

>>56202841
explain?

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I have 2GB, but I have a 4GB swap partition on my SSD.

I haven't felt the need to buy more RAM because everything feels so snappy under debian.

>>56200890
>then that
Well of course costs go up if you buy 2GB and less than 2GB

>>56202866
sounds dreadful

>>56202932
I can assure you, it's quite usable.

The question is, why would I ever need 8GB of RAM if I'm not a gaming manchild?

>>56202990
why are you talking to yourself

>>56203011
Shut up, you feminine pansy.

>>56203042
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag

>>56202990
If you need to work in VMs regularly.

>>56202990

Compiling C++ code with heavy usage of TMP. My 8GB can only allow so many template instantiations.

If you're not a programmer, or need to use something like AutoCAD, Blender, Photoshop, etc. 4GB will keep you comfy

>>56202841
what did he mean by this?

>>56203197
>le c++ template maymay
fuckoff, retard

>>56197213
I have 8 and practically never use more than 2.

>>56198844
>This is why you need 64GB
Typical poorfag argument, anything less than 128GB and you might as well an hero.

>>56203197
>My 8GB can only allow so many template instantiations
Stop LARPing you idiot.

I only have 2 GB but it's PC3200

>>56200575

That's a lot of porn

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>needing more than 4GiB

>>56204706
>shitposting

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>>56198902
All these fags not using dual channel because they are using odd amounts of ram. Learn 2 fucking meme

>>56205651
>1.25GiB
Because it's got 256MiB onboard and one slot, with the maximum module size being 1GiB for a total possible RAM amount of 1.25GiB
>5GiB
Again has onboard memory, only this time it's 1GiB. And again, it's got one slot, with a max module size of 4GiB for a total of 5GiB.
>6GiB
1x2GiB + 1x4GiB, max the northbridge supports. Eat a dick, faggot.

>my work potatotop only has 1GB
>better not browse with chrome AND open another program or it'll get swappy
>upgrade it to 2GB, nothing can stop me now
Living the good life

>>56201358
Shut the fuck up you 20 year old youngster fagot. Yea you are argueing for the sake of nothing when you said you don't even remember what 64bit programs you actually even needed a 64bit os to actually run for reasons other than, because you could.

>>56205756
Eat a dick you piece of shit.

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just bought another two of these to make a total of 32gb of ram in my rig

im gonna move my entire SSD to a ramdisk

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>>56198844

>>56200858
Because modern operating systems require more RAM.

Since ram is cheap af
I maxed out what my mobo can support
32gb

1TB at my workstation and I'm upgrading soon since it's often not enough.

I don't get how you can get around with only 8GB, even 16Gb is not enough if you have VM's, several IDE's etc open. Don't you guys have work to do or are you /v/ faggots?

>>56200803
this^ I wouldn't use 64bit on anything with under 3 Gigs of ram

I'm running 8GB on my laptop for work, and I'm running into swap with one virtual machine.

Anyone with less than 16 is a moran.

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>>56206709

visit my faucet. at
http://gettabit.faucetfly.com/

>>56206983
kek

>>56200800
>pissphone doesn't understand that people may have needs that don't require lots of RAM

What a surprise

>>56199035
60 is completely fine if you aren't using amd

What If I have 10GB because it was free?

>work in toonboom and premier
>rendering eats 16gb in seconds

I really need to upgrade.

>>56197213
Tbh if I wasn't using gentoo I wouldn't need more than 1GB of ram, senpai.

>>56197273
32 should be fine

16 was pushing it, but now I no longer have to worry about it

>>56200419
what is emulation
what is a vm
what is video cutting
what is java/android development :^)

I run two servers and my main rig off 6gb

>tfw 2x2GB + 2x4GB

I remember when this boards claimed that you absolutely, never, ever would need more than 4gb. I guess it's 8 now?

>>56207797
but i cant understand illegal migrants language

>>56207901
>wow, technology moves forward

>2016
>not have 128GB
>not running SO on Ramdisk

Fucking plebs!

>>56197213
I still have 512Mo, is it annoying?
I am not a smartphone fag so I don't need more.

>>56207946
Is it really that fast? It seems to be a little bit retarded.

Desktop: 16 Gibioctets
Laptop: 8 Gibioctets
Personal server: 16 Gibioctets
Phone 1 Gibioctet

>mfw my first pc had 16mb RAM

i remember going to the store and the guy working there said i should pick the "middle option", 8mb of ram was too little and i would never need 32mb of ram in my life

>>56207979

It's obvious that it's fast. Is faster than a SSD on a NVM.

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Still on my Dos box machine
>tfw main machine is still offline because of shipping fuck up,

>i can't run facebook or videos but dos games and 4chan work just fine.

you don't know the meaning of pain OP.

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>>56197521
:^)

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>>56201106

>>56201024
ajajajja

normie facebook machine: 4GB
gaymer: 8GB
actual work(single task): 16GB
actual work(multitasking): 32GB

>it's a RAM thread
Fuck off you wasted your money on something that's cheap and easy to replace in the future when it's really needed.

>>56208540
You mean GiB.

>>56197213
Not true, Discord takes up like 12 jigabyte powers - https://discord.gg/q4udwHn

>>56209230
>Discord
Literally /v/: the proprietary chat application.

>>56200800
>More is always better

Negative. I value maximal cost benefit over maximal raw ePenis score. There is always a sweet spot where you can get the most for each dollar and a threshold where you are getting diminishing returns. I want to support the markets at the sweet spot, not at the scam-tier idiot-fodder level kthxbai

>>56209275
Twitter redefined the crunch to a hashtag, so IRC is shunted to the fringes.

>>56201105
SSD's last literally like 50 years of constant read/writing until they start to break.

>>56200616
>Have you been using a 64-bit OS since you first had a 64-bit-capable CPU installed (maybe over a decade ago with only 512 or even 256 MiB of RAM)? Did everyone ditch DOS once they got off their 286 onto a 386 CPU, just because the latter was 32-bit?
Besides the point. Newer operating systems are made for 64 bit processors. 32 bit versions were maintained for compatibility reasons because of virtual 8086 mode (using NTVDM) only working on 32 bit operating systems.

>>56209355
Haha nice mem
>http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead
>almost 2PB constant writing and reading
>18 months
>all dead

>>56212208
wew, artifical brute-force benchmarks on 2-generation old consumer SSDs, and they *still* handled significantly more data than your desktop anime battlestation will ever write to them

good job proving nothing. Now do the same endurance test for a real SSD rated for 100,000+ P/E cycles (rather than the 1,000-3,000 of those shit consumer drives)

>>56212208
There is an IEEE white paper about solid state electronics wearing out via a phenomenon like electrolysis.

>>56212381
kys

>>56212438
>this jealous about my SSD which still has 99% of its lifetime remaining after 2 years of continuous 24/7 use

>>56197213
I find 4 to 8 GB to be enough for general usage.

4 for relatively light use and light gaming.

8 for serious gaming and video editing & processing. Photoshop etc.

16+ is generally overkill unless you have a very specific issue like running multiple virtual systems and/or development stuff.

>>56212533
>8 for serious gaming and video editing & processing. Photoshop etc

I do moderate photoshop and sit at like 14gb with filters and shit going on multiple images
With a game going and a simple browser open in the background I regularly go over 8gb
Don't people multitask anymore?

WTF i hate Ram now

>>56213784
me too fuck you guys

deleting my ram now

>>56213784
yeah fuck RAM

>>56199012
>CPU: 63 C
>Mobo: 60 C

how and why

Remember when /g/ used to say 8GB was a meme?

16GB - more than you need, the White man's choice

8GB - merely enough, durka burka couscous kebab experience

> having more than 4 gb
Unless you use RAM disks, >>>/v/

>>56214525
>having more than 2gb

Enjoy your wasted money and memory you will never use

>>56197213
I only need 4 and I edit in Photoshop while listening to music on Youtube most of the time.

>>56212715
I have 8GB in my dual core Pentium 4. I gleaned the best parts from a lot of junk computers and sold the rest.

>>56214649
3 gb X200 shitposter here :^)

>>56212381
b8 but I'll bite it anyway
irrelevant
People are still using and buying those ((((obsolete))))) shitty drives. The newer drives still use the same manufacturing process

>>56214839
>The newer drives still use the same manufacturing process
I see you know nothing about NAND technology

>>56214525
>more than 4GiB is only good for gaymen
>>>/out/

>>56215112
> ram disks
or some pro-grade video/3d/photo software. But I bet most people on gee use their ram only for gaymen.

>>56215142
I've got 6GiB because 4GiB wasn't enough. I was hitting swap regularly and it got annoying. I also don't do any of the stuff you listed.

>>56215211
What the fuck are you doing with this RAM? Keeping over 9000 tabs? Even in windows I don't use 4gb entirely.

>>56215248
Lots of tabs, two browsers open, virtual machines here and there, etc.

even my school's PCs have 16gb ram

>>56215263
I can understand VMs, but
> lots (>20) of tabs
there's a bookmark function for that
> two browsers
literally why

>>56215336
there's a bookmark function for that
I use bookmarks too.
>literally why
Opera 12.16 for browsing, SeaMonkey for the occasional site that doesn't work in Opera 12.

>have 8gb of ram
>was good 90% of the time, but sometimes I'd find myself using like 95%+ worth of my available ram
>upgrade to 16gb
>no issues with maxing out my ram anymore

Shit's like $50, its not like it broke the bank to get an extra 8gb stick

>>56214927
But still uses semiconductor physics?
same as the previous

>>56216226
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Vertical_NAND

>>56216382
>oh shit I'm losing this argument
>lets use wikipedia articles :^)

>>56198872
Lpl

>needing more than 8 to shitpost and code hello worlds

>>56216794
>As of 2013, V-NAND flash architecture allows read and write operations twice as fast as conventional NAND and can last up to 10 times as long, while consuming 50 percent less power. They offer comparable physical bit density using 10-nm lithography, but may be able to increase bit density by up to two orders of magnitude.

>twice as fast as conventional NAND and can last up to 10 times as long

>can last up to 10 times as long

>>56215365
obscurity is insecurity, bruh