/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

File: 1470541993592.jpg (69KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 300x300px

>qBittorrent doesn't run in OpenBSD
Back to Linux I guess

File: tumblr_static_tumblr_static_a36k86jrk1cso40w0ccwkgw4c_640.jpg (113KB, 600x337px) Image search: [Google]

113KB, 600x337px

Do people who run Windows have a mental deficiency that warrants government assistance? Most Windows users I meat in real life seem to have some form of high-functioning down syndrome. They're able to be taught to use office software and sometimes even to code basic programs, but they can only do it with an IDE that does all the work that requires intelligence for them. Put them in front of a text editor and they shit themselves, they have no idea how to write a program from scratch without a GUI holding their hand. I don't even know how you can call these people real programmers, but I guess if you get paid 25k/year to maintain visual basic programs you're technically a "programmer", even if you can't actually build a program without the IDE....

File: 20160819_195926-1.jpg (1MB, 1065x1152px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1065x1152px

Okay so, I've still not gotten anywhere with my installation of mint. Even Ubuntu had these issues which is why I've never been able to install Linux on my machine. I've been trying to install it via USB.

> enabled port emulation in bios
> unplugged literally everything
> tried rufus over universal installer
> tried different usb port
> tried to disable usb3 controller in bios
> tried a different distro (albeit an Ubuntu one)
> Google doesn't give any results, error 32 seems to be unique
> tried defaults in bios

>>56169288
Some people just have other hobbies than tech. Doesn't generally mean that they're stupid.

>>56169288
They have used Windows all their life. Were you clueless when you first encountered an operating system that you were unfamiliar with? Maybe you could help them

>>56169288
>>56169324
also
>real programmers
no true scotsman fallacy - they meet the criterion for being a programmer if they can program

>>56169173
How do i merge a subtitles file (srt) into a movie file on linux?

>>56169583
Use WINE

>>56169583
ffmpeg
>>56169591
wat

Ok I have a thread made on this but I think it's dead now but i can't install ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10 it gets me to the "install ubuntu gnome" option and then i just get black screens and nothing happens. this is supposed to be easy...

>>56169599
Didn't know ffmpeg could do that, cheers.

Void Linux

Exherbo

Funtoo

Devuan

Debian and Gentoo are ok if you want to use systemd

Ubuntu and Manjaro are recommended distributions for beginners and for people who just want something out of the box.

Arch Linux is NOT recommended.

>>56169648
Just fuck off already

>>56169648
>Recommend Manjaro
>Arch is NOT recommended

Wanna know how I know you are a clueless newfag?

>>56169673
Not friendly

>>56169689
Manjaro is Arch++

>>56169712
>Manjaro is Arch++
XDDD

Unless you have a proper argument against Arch get the fuck out

>>56169602
bump please I want freedom from Windows 10 ;_;

>>56169648
>Ubuntu for beginners
I like your meme, newbabby. No wonder you recommended all the garbage distros first

>>56169712
Dumbfuck.

>>56169288
I often ask this same question about people who use a gui on their Linux distro. Linux was never meant to be a desktop machine. Linux is for development and server functionality.

With that being said. You are a high functioning autist.

I've been using ubuntu on and off for a few years, and recently installed it on my main computer. I'm thinking about replacing it with Arch soon.

>>56169731
>>56169745
>t. Archbabbys

>>56169602
This is why I don't like GUI installers, they don't give proper error reports

1. On windows 10, defrag HDD
2. Free a 2 partitions, one with 1GiB
3. Start Ubuntu GNOME live ISO
4. Chose "exactly what I want ..." for partitioning
5. Pick the smaller partition (1G) for swap
6. Pick the other one for /
7. Install

Follow this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616wvkZuco4

NOTE: Make sure your secure boot is turned off.

>>56169781
What do you use?

>>56169763
Start with Antergos

File: baby-crying.jpg (15KB, 635x414px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 635x414px

>>56169781
>t. debibabby

File: ayy.png (197KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

197KB, 1920x1080px

>>56169781
Bitch please, I wouldn't touch Arch or Majaro.

>>56169738
Just use a VM.

>>56169789
>Start with Antergos
Why?

>>56169820
It has a GUI installer and leaves you with a nice desktop. You can try Architect as well

>>56169782
what this guy said, also make sure your bootloader is installing on the correct drive

the guided partitioning sometimes picks the wrong one which will fuck up your install

>>56169835
>the guided partitioning sometimes picks the wrong one
That's why I told to use "exactly what I want" or something in the partition menu for manual mountpoints

>>56169831
Thanks for the suggestions, but I think I will try installing Arch first. If it's too much of a hassle, I will follow your recommendations.

>>56169782
Cheers I'll try this out, I really have no idea why this shit is so hard when it shouldn't be

>>56169872
UEFI secure boot prevents you from installing unsigned softwares

>>56169731
no systemd

>>56169745
>>56169807

fuck off dumb tripfag

>>56169909
Again

I am using systemd. Give me one down-to-earth practical reason why should delete systemd from my install.

>>56169924
http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd pick one

>>56169937
All debunked
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html

So what's YOUR reason, I'm all ears

>>56169952
read the article, potteringcuck

>>56169952
How are these debunked? Did you even click the link? 0pointer is speaking about different things than suckless.

>>56169962
No YOU read the article.

And give me why I should remove systemd

>>56169980
Nope, mostly the same. Basically suckless is moaning because systemd doesn't cater to their preference.

File: needforspeed.png (80KB, 960x531px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 960x531px

>>56169962
>>56169980
>No counter argument.
anti-systemd fags BTFO

>>56169994
tell*

>>56169888
I have fastboot and secure boot disabled

>>56170000
Are you a clown?
Post anonymously or fuck off.

Jesus christ, they never learn.

>>56170018
Does the problem persist?

>>56170000
This
Vegans stop moaning the moment you ask them what systemd can't do that their init can

>>56170000
runit is faster

>>56170030
you should both go back to plebbit

>>56170030
yup, although I already partitioned my drive before trying to install ubuntu which i think might be a problem so I unpartitioned it so now Windows is allocated to 100% of my drivespace like before (minus a few recovery partitions that windows automatically creates) but This spatry guy in the video says to defragment your drive before you do this all, should I do that if I have an SSD or do I ignore that step?

>>56170031
No it isn't.

File: 1455760570589.jpg (50KB, 313x163px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 313x163px

>>56170045
> LE REDDIT IS BAD GUYZZ XDDDDDD TOPKEK TOPKEK
Come back when you are 18

>>56170057
read >>56170029
Tripfags not welcome.

>>56170068
give up, he's one of the oldest and most annoying tripfags, just filter him like everyone

>>56170057
Yes it is.

File: systemd.png (8KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 500x500px

>>56169648
Just passing by to thank you for your effort.

Also fuck systemd. I won't argue with trolls.

>>56170091
>just filter him
That's exactly the reason why we have so many tripfags.

>>56170093
Prove it.

>>56170117
Runit is objectively faster than systemd.

File: 1446230659769.jpg (67KB, 425x312px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 425x312px

>>56170120

>>56170126
sorry my brutha frum anutha mutha

What is your favorite DE? I really like openbox along with fbpanel.

>>56170120
Except its not and your wrong, post any activity runit does and I'll show you systemd doing it faster.

I would do the reverse but runit can't do what systemd does so it wouldn't be fair.

>>56170155
openbox is a wm

File: Screenshot from 2016-08-20 14-08-31.png (177KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 1366x768px

>>56170055
Where do you want to install your Linux? I recommend you install it in you hard disk.

I'd remove those recovery partitions, and follow the video.

Keep your C:\\ in SSD, have a media partition in D:\\ (Hard drive).

The rest of the partitions can be used for swap and /.

If you are still having problems, just run windows in a VM like me, not too bad if you are just running MS Word or Excel

>>56170100
>Can't argue where I'll get rekt

>Gpl licensed, free and open source
>"Just werks"
>Faster boot process
>Eliminates bloat/meme packages

There is NO reason why one should delete systemd from his system. There is nothing systemd can't do what other init systems can.

>Botnet
Source is open, show where

>Not Unix
Neither is linux

>pottering
So what packages did YOU make yesterday?

>>56170220
Nice pasta

People who like systemd don't understand what an init system actually should do. Systemd isn't an init system, it's bloat, eating up multiple programs which aren't even remotly related to init. Because of this, programmers need to rewrite their programs to target systemd instead of usual init systems, which results in a new standard: GNU/SystemD/Linux.

>>56170178
I have 1 drive which is a 500gb ssd and whenever I try to boot from my usb (used unetbootin to create a bootable drive) I get to a screen that asks if I want to try without installing, install, and a few other options...I pick any one of those and I am created with a black screen

>>56170275
>t. guy, not knowing what he's taling about

File: screenshot-en.wikipedia.org 2016-08-20 14-21-56.png (84KB, 813x465px) Image search: [Google]

84KB, 813x465px

>>56170275
>Systemd isn't an init system

>>56170275
So how exactly is systemd performing a function like dhcp far more quickly AND EASILY than any dhcp client and operc or runit or whatever bullshit you use bad exactly?

Is it harming the rich ecology of your fucking 30 year old stale utility? Oh god nooooooo!

>>56170275
That's not how it works, it's GNU/Linux because people are using the Linux version of a fully functioning GNU OS project

Systemd user here.

What does RMS say about systemd? Any source?

>>56170275
>People who like systemd don't understand what an init system actually should do.
I think some of them do, but are too lazy or don't know how to set up an alternative init system, because of this, they defend it.

>>56170363
He only cares about freedom. Since systemd is free software, he's ok with it.

>>56170380
Not dropped then

>>56170303
>Linux distributions

>>56170303
It's a software suite that includes an init system.

I just want an init system. I don't want a software suite.

>>56170468
What does the software suit contain?

>>56170488
A bunch of functionality that he has to add with utilities anyway.

>>56170518
Hmm. It's like saying
>VLC isn't a video player, it's a software suite with utilities such as screenshooter
Yup I'm fine with that

>>56170551
Would you be fine with it if the video files you downloaded required VLC to view?

File: 1347758675388.gif (3MB, 300x169px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 300x169px

I want to bring a portable toaster from 2009 back to life.
>2GB ram.
>AMD Athlon TF-20 1.60GHz (32-bit)
>Running vista
I need something light and quick, but clean looking. Any ideas?
Overall I'm only planning to use this as a Shit-posting-box and Office Suite. Know of a beginner distro that can get the job done?


Elementary looks nice, but I remember you anons shitting on them over some controversial stuff.
Deepin is also very clean, but that too got lots of flack over being Chinese botnet or something?
Lubuntoo and LXLE seem to have what I'm looking for, but I really have little idea what the difference is between them. LXLE is a lighter fork of Lubuntoo but has more features?

As long as it's light, clean, ubuntoo/debian based I don't mind trying it. I'm still new to Gnu/Linux, and Ubuntoo and simplicity is still my comfort zone.

>>56170572
Hey VLC is free and open source. If mpv has a wrapper that allows .vlc files it's okay. However, I'd blame the video producer for choosing the most common media player format

>>56170551
Not a good comparison at all.
It would be like if you were bitching that ffmpeg was encoding mpeg layer 3 instead of lame.

/fglt/ - systemd general

>tfw using systemd on gentoo
pretty good

File: 1375307536043.jpg (69KB, 396x385px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 396x385px

>>56170639

>>56169648
this meme is forced and shit

>>56170639
>>56170652

Gentoo has better systemd support than any other distro including Fedora.

>>56169648
Gentoo uses OpenRC you fucking newfag

>>56170666
>>56170652
Just use OpenRC

>>56170666
go away

>>56170684
Why in gods name would I want to back to rc script hell??

>>56170601
Are you talking about LXDE? Because Lubuntu is a distro, LXDE is a desktop environment.

I personally don't see the point in using Lubuntu, since Ubuntu is kind of a heavy distro, but if you don't want to venture beyond your comfort zone just yet then it's fine.

>>56170704
see >>56170068

anti-systemd fags BTFO

>>56170709
>Are you talking about LXDE?
No. LXLE is a distro, based on Lubuntu , that also uses the LXDE desktop environment. It also had me confused when I discovered it.

>I personally don't see the point in using Lubuntu, since Ubuntu is kind of a heavy distro
If you have any suggestions I'm willing to listen. I just wanted anyone reading to know my current Linux level, and what I was comfortable with. But feel free to suggest something else.

>>56170813
I threw LXLE on my dad's shitty 10 year old computer last year and it's been wonderful for him.

How freetard-friendly is Void?
Does it ship with nonfree software?
It seems to differentiate between free and nonfree software on the repos but I'm not sure

>>56170813
Manjaro Linux is light and beginner friendly. You can install it with LXDE or LXQt.

>>56170848
I'm also interested, bump

>>56170874
>manjaro
heh heh

>>56170848
>Void
Of packages*

Void and Alpine is for hippies that want to stay out of GNU coreutils

>>56169583
ffmpeg -i file.mkv -i subs.srt -c copy -map 0 -map 1 filewithsubs.mkv

File: a.png (157KB, 1302x855px) Image search: [Google]

157KB, 1302x855px

>>56169583
>>56170924
oh yea, or mkvtoolnix if you want a gui

File: 1295737521910.jpg (44KB, 242x269px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 242x269px

>>56170827
>>56170874
Alright, I'll grab a copy of both and try them. Thanks.

>>56169755

>Linux was never meant to be a desktop machine

The Linux kernel doesn't distinguish between being run on a "desktop" or a "server". Linus itself uses the kernel on a desktop. There's even a quote from him saying that it was one of his main reasons to create it, but I can't find it.

Idiot.

What is this shit? How can he be such a scumbag to make this the default?

$ parallel echo ::: a b c
Academic tradition requires you to cite works you base your article on.
When using programs that use GNU Parallel to process data for publication
please cite:

  O. Tange (2011): GNU Parallel - The Command-Line Power Tool,
  ;login: The USENIX Magazine, February 2011:42-47.

This helps funding further development; AND IT WON'T COST YOU A CENT.
If you pay 10000 EUR you should feel free to use GNU Parallel without citing.

To silence the citation notice: run 'parallel --citation'.

a
b
c

>>56169755
>Linux was never meant to be a desktop machine.
it was originally designed for desktop use

>>56171287
create a file called "will-cite" under "~/.parallel" to disable it
yea, it's shit, but it's a good tool, so i still use it

>>56171287
I don't get this notice. Nice trolling.

>>56171610

You're most likely using a distribution which patches packages into oblivion.

>>56171287
how does parallel even work
any examples?

>>56171712
the idea is that you can run either a list of commands, or a command with a list of arguments, in parallel (so for example, run "n" at a time, typically one per cpu core)

as an example,

parallel -j $(nproc) convert "{}" webp:"{.}.webp" ::: *

converts everything in the current folder to webp, one "convert" process per core rather than one at a time like a typical for loop

>>56171781
nice, thanks

>"GNU/Linux"
This is an ironic thing, right?

>>56171287
Must be some newfag SJW. Imagine all the broken scripts right now which parse parallel's output.

>>56171793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw8K460vx1c

>>56171816
lol are you serious?

so, what's /fglt/ opinion on manjaro? I am thinking about distro hoping once again, might as well try either manjaro or fedora

>>56171874
Arch with a lot of useless shit.

>>56171874
It's crap compared to the one I'm using.

>>56171874
Manjaro is basically Arch for babbies. Should be a good start for you.

For Fedora, I don't really see a point in it's existence.

>>56171897
>For Fedora, I don't really see a point in it's existence.
Well, if you're a freetard, but have hardware that requires proprietary drivers, Fedora is a solution. Free packages, but exceptions for drivers.

>>56171971
Why not Debian?

>>56171971
>exceptions for drivers.
kek, says a lot

>>56169207
>not using rtorrent
it's literally the official /g/ torrent client

File: 1470930284936.jpg (447KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

447KB, 800x800px

>>56172148
>Not even rutorrent works

I keep getting UFW BLOCKS in my kernel logs. They are incoming to the same port. I don't have any torrent client running and they still keep coming. Currently it's two different ips.

I don't know much networking, what do I do?

hello. not sure if anyone can or will want to help. I need some guidance on getting wow to run on linux. I tried it recently on ubuntu in playonlinux and in vanilla wine but neither worked. and just spewed out some error. im not sure if it will work better in another distro? does anyone have any experience on getting it to work?

>>56173079
Arch has a whole wiki article regarding WoW, maybe you could give it a go. If installation is a problem just get anatergos or manjaro

>>56173079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBvPWpfu0pw

File: totally legit.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1920x1080px

>>56173079
what error?
in playonlinux, click the wow icon you made, click "configure", then "miscellaneous", and "open a shell"
from there, navigate to wow's main folder, with "Wow.exe" in it, and run "wine Wow.exe"
then post what text is shown in the terminal

while i haven't tried official wow, i do have vanilla, wotlk and mists installed and they all work in wine-staging ootb

>>56173118
>>56173135
>>56173139
cheers. ill have another go later.

File: image so people actually read my question.png (6KB, 140x140px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 140x140px

Just got a thinkpad for work (thesis writing), about to install Fedora on it. Is this a mistake? I use debian and arch on other machines. I want something that I won't have to piss about with (so not arch). I like the look of KDE plasma 5, and it's not on debian stable yet.

>>56173307
Install Gentoo.

>>56173307
When debian stable gets KDE5, maybe fedora/Arch will be on KDE6

File: chuwi hi8.jpg (110KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 1920x1080px

Anyone here managed to successfully install GNU/Linux in one of these cheap chink tablets from /csg/?

You can disable secure boot and boot into Linux but the problem really is the drivers unfortunately.

>>56173307
Yes.
Install openSUSE instead.

who here already ditched bash for powershell ?

>>56173468
No one

>>56173468
Sort of funny. So much work, but nobody is using it. Reminds me of Windows Phone.

What would be a good, rolling-release distro that is 100% libre that isn't source-based?
>anything except arch and gentoo

>>56173655
Parabola.

I tried to update the kernel but the openwrt website is offline and now the update is stuck forever trying to connect to the openwrt server, how do i skip it?

>>56173726

>watch mr robot
>wow linux seems really cool
>try it out
>it's overcomplicated shit
>things that take two hours there can be done in two minutes in windows
no wonder mr robot is so antisocial, linux consumes all of his free time by being arbitrarily verbose

>>56173789
>watch fglt
>new bait shows up
no wonder, it's still summer

would starting with debian instead of ubuntu/mint be a bad idea?
i guess it doesn't really matter that much, i just don't want to fuck myself up too badly. but i gotta get out of this botnet soon

>>56173911
Linux is for servers, if you try to use it for normalfag desktop usage you will be crawling back to windows within a month

>>56173911
It's a good idea if you plan to read manuals. And if you don't, you better stick with the botnet.

>>56173911
Go ahead. There's not much difference. Debian gives you a nice installer.

File: pouting.jpg (12KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 500x281px

Fuck, I'm fed up with Windows. I'm seriously considered switching to Linux full time. I've been using Arch for a few years now on my laptop, so I'll probably stick that on my main butterstation as well, although I'm open to suggestions.

Is there a better distro than Arch,? Should I go with Wayland or X? If Wayland, is there an analogue of xmonad?

>>56173789
>do thing in windows for two minutes
>windows crashes

>>56173957
that literally never happened once
>his counterargument is lying
try to compare windows server up times with linux server up times son
yeah, we are done here

>>56173789
>antisocial
The word you're looking for is asocial, although he's antisocial as well.

>windows useds so butthurt now they must troll fglt
priceless

>>56172148
>What is /g/torrent

>>56173968
is there a difference? their connotations seem the same

>>56173954
>Is there a better distro than Arch
Install Gentoo.

Seriously though, depends on what you want from a distro. Gentoo is actually great if you don't mind a bit of compilation and like fine-tuning.

>>56173789
>Want to use Linux for the sake of using Linux
This is why you can't into Linux.

>>56174011
asocial means you are desperate to get some pussy but you are too scared to talk to girls
antisocial means you want to take down the system

>>56174072
oh, neat.
thanks

>>56173954
Also, I don't think Wayland is well-supported yet

>>56174108
Well that sucks. I've heard some good things.

File: 62027044-0cff-48c1-820c-80302e74146d.png (407KB, 962x1476px) Image search: [Google]

407KB, 962x1476px

>>56173954
Solus OS

File: a.jpg (43KB, 640x429px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 640x429px

>>56174131
so have i, for years

>wayland is coming
>wayland is coming
>wayland is coming
>wayland is coming
>it's coming guys, just hold on

>>56174314
Wayland is to be default in Fedora 25.

Wayland is coming in November.

Based on that, it will probably be default in Arch within a year.

Debian Stretch +1 will probably have it as default.

And so on.

Wayland is coming

8=D~~

>>56174364
>Wayland is to be default in Fedora 25.
they were also considering that for fedora 21, remember?

>>56169311
>device descriptor read errors
that most likely means the device didn't get enough power.

>>56174375
yeah but really now

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1615

nothing happens until it happens, but this is about as sure as you can get

>>56174364
>default in Arch within a year.
wrong, it'll be default at the same time fedora comes

>>56174425
ok. I don't use Arch so I don't really know. ty

motherfucker

>>56174364
What are the options when it comes to WMs?

>>56174238
It *looks* nice, but if I wanted looks, I'd go for Fedora which also has a solid backing at the same time.

>>56174491
I am not a genie, nor do I use Wayland

but

There are a few WMs for Wayland - sway is based on i3, etc. There is a list on the arch wiki I believe.

That's the thing about Wayland as default - there's a lot of stuff that's specific to X, window manager for example.

I don't really know how it all works. Hopefully I'll have my new computer by then so I can hop off this wild west linux train.

File: 1471645799332.png (1MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1600x900px

>newfag lurker here
why would someone use linux or other non windows OS? I hear they''re good for programming but are they useful for anything else? also apparently you can modify the OS at your will, but wtf does that mean anyway? like themes and functions? I got interested because of the windows 10 privacy shit(and the aesthetics are pretty nice)

So guys, which DE has the best multi monitor support ?

I use my laptop both on its own and with an external monitor on portrait mode sitting to the left of the laptop. I need a DE that can remember and detect this configuration whenever the external monitor is plugged in.

I've been using KDE and while it mostly works, it's kind of buggy which is getting annoying. It remembers the monitor configuration, but then I have my panel initializing on the wrong monitor, graphical artifacting after removing the external monitor until I restart plasmashell, and other annoyances.

Is there anything better/more stable ?

I'm using antergos, why every time I uninstall something it also uninstalls other software?
uninstalling vlc also uninstalls Krita.. why it does that?

If * stands for any sequence of characters, how is it that if I do this for example:

# rm -rf * 

removes only the contents of the working directory, but it doesn't go upwards, I mean * should also stand for

../../whatever

, so the previous command should be basically the same as

# rm -rf / 

but it isn't. Does this mean that * stands for only the filenames in the current working directory? Shouldn't it at least stand for '..' (that would allow the first command to at least remove the parent directory)?

What's the difference between

ln -s file link

and

cp -s file link

?
Why did they implement the same operation twice?

can someone explain to me why wayland exists?
what does it strive to do better than X?

>>56174925
>Does this mean that * stands for only the filenames in the current working directory?
exactly.
sometimes you want to grab all the files in a folder and do something to them.
including .. and . into * would make that pretty inconvenient, with your example being a big reason why it is the way it is. Accidentally bricking your device when trying to delete the contents of a directory isn't what you'd generally want.

>>56175017
They are different tools which happen share some functionality, both do a lot of others which the other doesn't.

>>56174925
>I mean * should also stand for

../../whatever

, so the previous command
Why should it?

File: 5.jpg (225KB, 1200x903px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 1200x903px

How to install packages offline?
I mean not building from source.
But how to create an installable container?

>>56175295
give me the source of that loli and I'll tell you

>>56175397
Swimsuit Study.
Now answer.

>>56175426
Thanks. If you're using a Debian based distro you can download a .deb package using

apt-get download package-name

or you can just download the .deb file from the repo site (for Debian https://packages.debian.org/index).
If you're using a rpm based distro like Fedora, you need .rpm files (equivalent to .deb on Debian).

>>56175426
Also, you use

dpkg -i package.deb

to install .deb files.
I don't know for rpm based distros because I never used them.

File: 6.jpg (634KB, 1280x1882px) Image search: [Google]

634KB, 1280x1882px

>>56175516
>>56175544
And if it's Arch based distro?

>>56174714
>posts an image from desktop threads
You got the wrong idea pal, modifying the appearance of your computer is barely the tip of the iceberg, and most people don't bother much with that. Often people who obsess over customizing their looks to the lengths circlejerkers used to go in desktop threads don't get any actual work done. They just rice.

Using GNU/Linux means you're in charge of your computer. It doens't hide anything from you. When you run Windows, your computer can do things you don't want it to, and when you can't control software, then it's no longer *your* computer.

The experience of using GNU/Linux can be as easy or as deep as you want it to. Do you want to watch anime and shitpost on 4chan? You can do that? Do you need it for light note taking in college? You can do that easily. Do you need it for programming? Linux is programmer's heaven with the ease of use of the tools available. Etc etc.

>>56175671
*You can do that. Mistyped that extra question mark

>>56175666
sauce

>>56175744
Nee-chan's Unjustified Ragings
Now answer.
Satan demands it.

>>56175666
>>56175782
pacman uses binary packages in the tar.xz format, with .pkg placed before this to indicate that it is a pacman package (giving .pkg.tar.xz).
Don't know how you download them tho, here's a link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=99270
Also, you could have googled this shit yourself, faggot.

>>56175666

       -w, --downloadonly
           Retrieve all packages from the server, but do not install/upgrade
           anything.

>>56175878
Will this download dependencies as well?

>>56175891
it'll probably download missing deps

note that the missing deps might differ between the machine you're downloading on and the machine you're downloading for
to make sure you have every dep, i'd run this from a fresh arch chroot, with nothing else installed

Which is better for beginners, Debian or Ubuntu? Which one is better managed and is more stable/secure?

File: Screenshot from 2016-08-15 15-44-29.png (1MB, 1310x1380px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1310x1380px

I want to have my system stop accepting input from the keyboard and mouse when there is no display attached. I'm using VGA and arch linux, how should I accomplish this?

>>56175923
>>56175891
-- also, if you're just trying to setup a new machine with many of the same packages, consider simply copying the pacman cache you already have to the new machine
unless you cleared it out at some point, your pacman cache already has a copy of all the packages that you have installed

it at

/var/cache/pacman/pkg

>>56175933
it'd be trivial to write a daemon which periodically uses xrandr to see if any displays are connected, and say, run a screen locker if there's none

About to make the final move to Linux on my laptop and I'm wondering which one to use between Ubuntu or Mint (xfce edition on both). What are your recommendations /g/entlemen?

> In b4 install gentoo or other memes like that

I already tried Arch and I don't have enough time to mess with all the configuration it comes with.

>>56175671
thanks for the answer. I'm really interested but do I need any prior knowledge in programming to use it? could I learn what I need along the way?

>>56175019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44

>>56175982
perfect, I'll probably just make it suspend the system since the computer doesn't need to be active when it's not hooked up to a monitor

>>56176057

Did you need programming knowledge to use Windows? Hint: the answer is no and it applies to Linux distributions as well.

File: f43522232.png (143KB, 423x349px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 423x349px

>>56175923
>>56175947
Thanks, chroot is a little above my league right now.
But I'd like to learn it at some point.
I need an offline package because for network drivers of a mini laptop that doesn't have Ethernet port.
Thanks.
One last question, why is it not recommended to upgrade single packages?
For example I want to upgrade only mpv, why do I have to run -Syu

>>56176040

go with fedora instead

>>56175927
If your computer isn't fully free driver compatible then debian can be annoying or even difficult if you don't know what you are doing.
They both have a lot of hands working on them and are both secure.

>>56171874
Manjaro is literally GoodArch.

>>56176136
What's good about fedora?

>>56176187
tipping

>>56176040
I would avoid mint, every time I've installed it for other people it has had weird bugs.
By the way, gentoo is probably the best distro of all so don't dismiss it as a meme, although maybe leave it for now.

>>56176126
>why is it not recommended to upgrade single packages?
simply because each package was made with the intention of running on an up to date system
you can install packages without updating, just keep in mind that if you run into trouble, your first step should be to do a full update and see if that fixes it

>>56176184
It literally isn't.

Thinking about installing arch linux, is it really as unstable as the memes portray it as?

>>56176117
well windows is really user friendly. You say you have complete control over your machine but how does you do that without programming?

>>56176283
Try it if you have time. "Unstable" means different things to different people.

>>56176278
It's Arch with useful features. You Arch users are in some kind of cult or something.

>>56176387
I don't use arch but manjaro is a joke.

>>56171874
Manjaro is arch made easy.
Devs are idiots though.
As far as I know it's the only distro that comes with i3

File: DSC06188.jpg (336KB, 1280x960px) Image search: [Google]

336KB, 1280x960px

Hey guys, just picked up a free computer, planning on making it into a home file server that will have a variety of different OSes (linux and various versions of Windows) connect to it.

It's got an E6300 and 2.5 GB of RAM, GA-VM900M rev 1.0 motherboard, and no drives aside from a DVD R/W and an SD card reader. I have a spare 16 GB SD card.

What distro of linux should I put on it that will be easy to work with and set up? I've honestly never made a server before, and it's been a long time since I touched linux last.

>>56176378
Should I trust the AUR or just stick to official packages only?

>>56176283

>asking the same people who perpetuate those memes and myths to confirm that they're false

You're an idiot.

>>56176249
>your first step should be to do a full update and see if that fixes it
And if it screw the system?

>>56176416
I was hoping someone that actually used arch linux could clear some things up for me in this thread.

>>56176318

How is Windows user friendly in any way that's not tied to suffering from baby duck syndrome?

>>56176387

Kill yourself. That's the only way to stop you from embarrassing yourself by posting memes and myths you picked up on here while trying to pass it as actual facts.

>>56173954
>Is there a better distro than Arch?

Manjaro

>>56176411
>As far as I know it's the only distro that comes with i3
It's so hard to install i3 and set it in your .xinitrc...

>>56176229
I'm not saying Gentoo is a bad distro, it's just not for me. Like I said I do not have enough time on my hands to mess around with all the config.

>>56176435
No two installations are the same. Yes, it can be unstable but it can also be pretty solid. If you need to ask this then it probably isn't for you.

>>56176467
okay fine, I'll give arch a try.

>>56176411

>As far as I know it's the only distro that comes with i3

No. Every of the "core" distributions has it.

>debian
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/i3
>ubuntu (not really a "core" distribution)
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/i3
>fedora
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/i3/
>gentoo
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/x11-wm/i3
>opensuse
https://software.opensuse.org/package/i3
>arch
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/i3-wm/

>>56176415
>Should I trust the AUR
You can always read the build file.

>>56176431
depends on what happens
been using arch since 2012 and i can't say i've run into any system-breaking updates

>>56176475

You're definitely an idiot.
Someone who's not an idiot would know whether or not he needs a certain distribution. A smart person would know how to look up a distribution and see its defining features (from the set of features which define a distribution).

>>56176435
the only issue I had with my arch was some QT dependencies.
That I solved by using the AUR version.

>>56176483
I meant as OOTB.

>>56176414
debian is pretty fine for servers i think

>>56176533
>apt install i3
That's totally worth using a shitty distro for

File: 1463281306758.jpg (81KB, 640x1136px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 640x1136px

>Manjaro
Regardless of the SSL meme.
Anyone had issues when doing full system update with manjaro?

I did once and after booting up I got stuck with "starting version 221"
Also whenever I try to install a package, it require to install "manjaro-system" package before hand.
What's all this about?

>>56176591
>What's all this about?
Devs who don't know what they are doing.

>>56176627
About the "starting version 221" problem?
Or the "manjaro-system" package?

>>56173435
>can't play mp3 out of the box

>>56176741
Both.

>>56176086
wtf I like Wayland now?

Is it possible to ssh into a linux machine via terminal from windows?

File: 55586358.jpg (114KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 400x400px

Reminder that among the anons who have a legitimate stand for systemd, hides the systemd shills who harass the dissent.

This fanboyism is not natural.

>>56176950
Yes, use putty. Many do this to connect to a virtual machine hosting a server.

>>56169173
Have any of you had a problem when using 4chan X that results in .webms not playing sound in gallery and you have to fuck with volume for like 20 seconds until it comes back on?

Maybe it's just a 4chan issue in general. I have had it happen on Windows once or twice, but it seems to happen on my arch install a LOT more

>>56176978
You should concentrate more on your English skills rather than those of your trolling.

File: a.jpg (65KB, 562x421px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 562x421px

>>56176086
can't recommend that video enough

How is it that when I run this

echo -e -n "\a"

to produce the bell character, in urxvt I get a different sound than when I run the same command from a tty (in a tty the sound is a bit higher pitched)?
Also, if I run this script in xterm

#!/bin/bash
for i in `seq 1 30`;
do
    echo -e -n "\a"  
    sleep 0.1
done

the pause between beeps is much longer than when it is executed in urxvt or in a tty, but the script execution still lasts 3 seconds although the number of beeps is reduced to 20 or so. It sounds the same in urxvt and in xterm.
Also, if I execute the script in dmenu, the sound is the same as in a tty.
The speed in a tty, urxvt and dmenu is the same, only xterm lags.

I have to say, this perplexes me.

> /dev/null 2>&1

or

2>&1 > /dev/null

>>56176591
yes that has always been

>>56176441
ha Haha HAHAHAHA

>>56176533
i3 is a meta group on ubuntu
i3-wm is just the wm

File: emily_helen_barry.png (805KB, 640x640px) Image search: [Google]

805KB, 640x640px

How is LXDE for daily use? I'm tired of being a Unity noob.

>>56177253
I'm using it right now and it's pretty good for what I need.
>can be made tileable with pytyle
>easy on ram usage
>reasonably riceable

seriously it's fine, go install and use it.

>>56176985
i thought putty only created a tunnel, can you actually input commands?

File: 1452754272506.jpg (25KB, 441x411px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 441x411px

>>56169288
>everyone else is stupid
>im so superior with my arch linux
>tumblr images
check out this badass

>>56176894

All they have to do now is add some extensions to the protocol to enable independent tools like screenshot utilities or hotkey daemons.

>>56176086
>>56177053

It's comedy kino.

https://youtu.be/RIctzAQOe44?t=15m17s

>>56177064
Try using printf \a to send the bell character.

I have just installerd Arch with Openbox, what are some recomended programs to get?
Such as terminal emulator, file browser, text editor?

>>56177964
what i use: xfce4-terminal, spacefm, geany

So last time I read anything about suspending/hibernating with Linux I remember the situation was basically a mess, and waking up from suspension could cause all kinds of problems that would eventually require you to just restart.

Has the situation improved at all? Is it worth setting up suspend/hibernate for Linux now?

>>56178011
Works fine for me.

>>56178011
Not really. Linux starts so fast it's simpler just to turn it off.

>>56178011
Works flawlessly here. I used to have problems with it before I switched to systemd and networkmanager but not anymore.

>>56178060
change your name to "systemd shill"

>>56178029
>>56178060
Ok just checking. The last time I tried it by the way was back when Ubuntu was still using gnome 2 so it's been a while.

Thanks for the replies

>use yaourt to install something from the AUR
>dependency errors fucking everywhere

wtf? Fuck this shitty distro.

File: s.png (8KB, 556x375px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 556x375px

Is debian a good distro for a computer that is always freezing , due to lack of AMD drivers?

>>56178123
btw I'm trying to get shadowsocks-qt5 installed

>>56178072
Everyone is already using systemd there is no reason to shill for it.

>>56178302
wut

>>56178385
?

my computer freezes a lot with some distros (Xubuntu 16, xubuntu 15, manjaro, )

i was asking if debian was a good idea

>>56178425
Just use modesetting driver if you run into so many problems.

>>56178425
Why would it be any different? Debian uses free drivers by default so if you need proprietary ones you're just making more work for yourself.

>>56178464
>modesetting driver
can you explain what this is, please?

>>56178497
The software modesetting graphics driver for xorg that uses glamor for 2d acceleration. You can use it as your driver instead of the AMD one.

>>56178586
this

http://linux.die.net/man/4/modesetting

?

how do you install in the command line? can't find the package

>>56178617
Latest versions of Xorg have it built in, you just need to specify it in xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d/blah.conf

File: Screenshot from 2016-08-20 18-49-08.png (20KB, 932x418px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 932x418px

I'm not quite sure what I've done, but certain commands in Gentoo like sudo produce a log in the terminal like this:

[/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/pam-1.2.1/work/Linux-PAM-1.2.1/libpam/pam_item.c:pam_set_item(31)] called

.
Similarly nano is unusable and looks like this.
Any idea what I did to do that?

>>56178700
Looks like you turned some debug shit on.

>>56178123
dont use that shit
use pacaur

File: chestallmano.jpg (36KB, 506x405px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 506x405px

someone make a new thread

using this pic

>>56178716
Turns out I had the debug flag on.

>>56178786
You will get over the fucking with shit just because phase eventually lol.

>>56178123

>using unofficial packages which aren't part of the distribution
>complains about errors

Kill yourself, idiot.

>>56178814
Why do you use a tripcode on an anonymous image board? Do you enjoy being hated and derailing threads?

I see no good reason to have a tripcode other than to identify yourself when it matters. You aren't OP, and your identity is completely unnecessary. No one gains anything by associating your posts with your shit name, besides an inner hatred for you because you're a vain piece of shit.

>>56178905
>use any other distro
>having to add 10 unofficial repos to get basic functionality

:^)

>>56174911
Just some simple dependencies or
"Remove unwanted dependencies." is checked.
Setting something to "explicitly installed" can help.

>>56178976
>Your response to my tripcode is to get triggered and shitpost about it.

I recently found out I'm going university, and I've grown to like Gentoo. The problem is everything takes ages to compile so I probably won't be able to use it.
Which distro would you recommend?

File: 1449413550668.jpg (661KB, 2000x2000px) Image search: [Google]

661KB, 2000x2000px

So, how easy will it be for me to install arch without internect connection? I have a broadcom card, and where I am moving I won't have any ethernet. I kind of want to go on a distro hop rampage some more, but since I will probably end up returning to arch, I don't want to be up a creek.

Antergos apparently has wifi working out of the box for me, but I found it's got a bunch of packages I doubt I need. Can't find a list of packages included either so I would have to manually remove a lot of shit.

>>56178987
I like how you completely missed his point but jumped at the chance to defend your favourite distro.

>>56179025
I use arch on my thinkpad.

Unless you're like updating or installing shit on a daily basis AT UNIVERSITY, does it matter?

>>56179019
>Your response to my tripcode is to get triggered and shitpost about it
The inevitable response to using an unnecessary tripcode is hateful shitposts, you cock monkey

What's a distro that runs well on low amounts on RAM? I need to set up a VM to be able to run some programs on my old laptop and I don't want to have to use more than 1 GB for the VM since the laptop only has 4 GB of RAM

>>56179032
I like how you completely missed the point and went on deflecting.

You can have issues with OFFICIAL repos fucking up. Stop spreading meme fud

>>56179083
Must suck to have so little control over your emotions.

>>56179124

The chance of dependency issues by using official repositories are very slim. Even if, they're usually automatically resolved after some time.
Using custom packages is only begging for problems, especially with shit from Arch's user repositories.

>>56179099
Most distros are the same. You are looking for DE's.

If you're a comfortable user, look at something like i3 or openbox. They aren't desktop environments, just minimal window managers. But if you know how to use them, they are extremely powerful.

However, if you aren't comfortable with them, I recommend either MATE or xfce. Both are extremely lightweight. I ran xfce on an old Dell laptop and it worked PERFECTLY.

If it doesn't work out, look at Lubuntu. It's the lightest before sacrificing functionality, but it's pretty bare and won't net you a lot of space saving.

So I want to try GPU passthrough. The guide that I'm looking at shows a list of supported CPU's, but a i5-6600k isn't on it. Will it still work with this processor?

Another thing is that I'm already dual-booting arch linux and windows. Could I use my dual-boot installation of windows when I am using the GPU passthrough method?

>>56179144
>never answers why they use a tripcode
>continues to affirm that they enjoy being hated and derailing threads

Why don't you just go to Reddit, or anywhere else where everyone has identities?

>>56179163
Check Intel's Ark and see if the 6600k has VT-d. More than likely it will.

>>56179158
The very first time I used Arch my terminals in X were spanned with XDG errors and when I went to help in GIMP it segfaulted because it was compiled against webkit-gtk but webkit-gtk was optional.

>>56170155
Unity

>>56179158
I've been using arch for 8 years, and have well over 300 packages available from aur, never had an issue.
>custom packages
So you only use packages that are available from your distros main repo? You dont install anything outside of your package manager? You dont use git versions of any packages, with or without your package manager?
PKGBUILD has a syntax.
Again
Stop spreading meme fud.

>>56179174
Threads fine, shitposting like yours doesn't actually derail anything, the issue is yours alone.

>>56179205

>So you only use packages that are available from your distros main repo?
No, I use custom packages created by self-written PKGBUILDs.

>Stop spreading meme fud.
Which meme FUD? What are you even arguing against? Are you the original guy who complained about Arch being broken because some idiot's AUR package was broken?

>>56179159
I'll give Xubuntu a shot then, I've ran it before on the laptop and it works fine but I haven't tried it in a VM with only 1 GB RAM.

I have a folder with permissions all over the place.
Is it possible with a few command lines to change permissions, for subfolders and then for files?

>>56179258
Our Uni distributes an Xfce based distro packaged up with all the stuff you need for courses and I believe it's a 1gb distro so you should be fine.

But if it isn't just go LXDE`

>>56179304

Use find to find all directories. Chance permissions with find's -exec flag. Repeat the same, but for files.

>>56179331

could you give me an example? I'm stupid and only learn things when I see someone doing it

>>56179399

https://searx.me/?q=change%20permissions%20subdirectories%20linux&categories=general

The first and fifth result are really promising.

File: 1442541178788.jpg (1MB, 1076x1500px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1076x1500px

>>56179447

nice, thanks anon
have a cute pic

New thread: >>56179567

>>56170618
haha damn. Up until your comment i fucking forgot i was in /fglt/. I had to scroll up to be sure. wtf man