/pcbg/ PC Building General

We should add to the op this line:
-The purpose of this thread is to consolidate discussion. If you see any other "Build Threads" or "PCPartPicker Threads", please politely redirect them here.
There's probably a better way to format that though.

How long do these generals usually last?

Might as well ask here.

I upgraded from an old Nehalem system to Skylake not long ago. I was gonna use the Nehalem board/CPU/RAM as a home server, so I removed the overclock and put Linux on it.

Wasn't stable. It'd hang after several hours. (I'd see my terminal windows blaring warnings about how the NMI Watchdog detected CPU# X was stuck. For all values of X, not just one core) I set the memory timings loose and added some more voltage. 1.25 wasn't stable, I'm priming 1.3 now, and it's lasted 7 hours. But that's a lot for a Nehalem, especially at stock. Stock settings on the mobo had it asking for 1.19v.

It'd never given me a bit of trouble in Windows, even wound up from 2.8GHz to 3.6. I'm worried that it needs this much voltage at stock speeds. Is it possible it's damaged and slowly on its way out, after many years of running overclocked?

>>56104887
Running over clocked can shorten the life of the whole system, especially your mobo. I'm no expert, but I'd expect that to be the first problem.
That said, this is more about selection of parts for a new build, or asking questions about the building process. (How do I plug this, or route this cable? What kind of fan setup should I use?)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NG2fPs

are there any ways I can cut costs on this build while keeping everything reasonably high quality? It's for 1440p gaming.
I also heard this one particular power supply had some not great reviews. Can anybody suggest decently reliable 600+ watt unit that has all black cables? I don't care if it's bronze or whatever. As long as it won't die on me and is affordable.

How do you clean your desktop?
>compressed air
Too expensive
>specialized electric blower duster
A hundred dollars for a hair dryer?
>hair dryer
Too hot
>Blow on it
Maybe

>>56106178
Does your hair dryer not have a cold setting? Most either can turn it off or have a special witchcraft quick-chill function and make it super cold really quickly. In conjunction with one of those nozzle things they're great.

I'm shopping around for my first build and I'm a bit suspicious, would appreciate any feedback.

EVGA 1060 minis are like golddust here, barely any in stock and stock tends to go quickly. Zotac 1060 minis, on the other hand, are easily available and cost slightly less. Zotac have a longer warranty than EVGA, although I've heard EVGA customer service is second to none.

Is there any reason not to wait for EVGAs to come back in stock and just grab a Zotac?

>>56107466
Zotac were more expensive here, then I pre-ordered a EVGA GTX 1060 GAMING for 289€, it should arrive in a couple of week.
*tension intensifies*

Wanna build a PC for video editing, 3D modeling/rendering and animation work (mainly animation though). I don't intend to overclock it.

I'm fucking clueless, but how does this build look like? [spoiler]its a prebuilt gaming PC[/spoiler]

>i7-5820K
>Cooling: Corsair Hydro H55
>MOBO: Gigabyte GA-X99M-Gaming 5 X99
>SDD: SSD Kingston UV400 240GB
>HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA3
>RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 2x8GB DDR4
GPU: MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX960 OC 4GB DDR5

By the way I keep seeing recommandations to get two of the same graphic cards for the same computer. Why? How does that work?

>>56104651
She's embarrassed about using "@channel", a fictional 4chan counterpart in the steins;gate universe.

>>56107531
build your own and skip on the graphics card or buy a used gtx titan
ram better be 3000mhz cas14-15
ssd is fine
hdd is fine but blacks are loud as fuck
gigabyte boards are pretty... eh. stick with asus/evga

>>56107531
also sli is a complete waste for your goal. ignore dual card (gpu) setups

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>>56107564

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Would a 2500K bottleneck a 1070 ?

First time builder. Coming close to purchasing an want to make sure there are no obvious mistakes.

This build is mostly for 60-120fps gaming on 1080p. As well as some low level video/music/ps work.

Build;
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/C2bZZ8

Budget was €700-800 but has settled around €850.

Do I really need to spend €80 on PSU? Its a quality unit but I've toyed with others half the price.

>>56108148
Are ya overclocking that, anon?

>>56108904

> 60-120fps gaming on 1080p
>i5
>1060

That isn't going to happen anon.

>>56109224
oh :( I dont understand the things..

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I need to cut back the cost on this machine. However it will be for professional use, editing videos.
What do?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4ZMgtJ

>>56109298
some of the parts.

>>56109320
>960
Hahahahahahahahahaha

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About how much life does an i7 920 overclocked to 4.5GHz still have these day? I wouldn't mind playing between middle and high to get 60FPS.

>>56109298
Oh, I misread your post as
>How will it be for professional video editing?

But if you want the answer for that anyway:
Hilariously bad.

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>>56109284

tl;dr you need an absurd amount of hardware to push high framerates in the latest and greatest games, even at 1080p.

>>56105327
You could stick to 8GB to save a bit of $$$. The items are decent as-is. Going down a tier would hurt more than the $$$ saved.

>>56108148
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
Compared to a 6600K, yes, a bit, especially if you are on a 144Hz screen. But not so much that it is worth it to upgrade to a new CPU if you are tight on cash.

>>56109347
Sandy Bridge was something like ~40% of an upgrade, and we have had ~4 generations of ~5% upgrades since. So you are getting maybe half the performance of a modern CPU.

>>56104810
Past the bump limit.

>>56107531
Look at workstations with xeons in them instead. More cores will be better for you because rendering is heavily multithreaded.

>>56108148
Looks like it's starting to, but overclock that bitch.

>>56108904
The 1060 is perfectly fine for most games at 1080p.

>>56109418
>total war
>optimized

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>>56109454

>>56109488
>ubishit
>worth playing

>>56109021
>>56109454
>>56109433

Haven't needed to with only a 970, if I OC it how bottle necked would I be?

I'm on a 144hz screen which is why I'm looking at a 1070, I'm feeling the dips bad

>finish a build
>Immediately start planning the next one
Anybody else have this feel?

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>>56104887
Have you tried undervolting?

I want to build a pc for:
-Work with Autodesk products like Autocad and Revit
-Adobe products like photoshop, illustrator, indesign, etc
-Some gaming

Should I get a faster four core cpu, or a slower six core cpu? Or, is there another specific cpu you guys would recommend?

Is GTX 1060 more powerful than GTX 970?

>>56110589
I say the x99 platform is up your alley. Intel 5xxx or broadwell-e depending on budget.
>>56110849
Yes. More powerful, more Vram, newer, cheaper, less power. There's no reason to buy a 970 unless you find one for $210 new.

>>56111796
Thank you. I asked about the GTX 970 not because I want to buy it, infact I already pre-ordered a GTX 1060. I'm asking because I want to have a general idea on how my card will behave in certain games I like, because GTX 1060 gameplay videos are basically non-existent for the games I play.

>>56109706
>no argument

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>>56104651
she found someone had leaked her sex tapes

>>56109454
>Xeon
Didn't know these things existed. Searched for them in popular PC shops in my country, no one sells them. Guess they're too pricey for the common user.

>>56107654
Thanks
I'd rather stick with Nvidia, is the card in my previous post good enough or is there anything better (in the same price range)?
RAM is 2400mhz, will ask for an upgrade and a blue HDD

>>56112138

>Didn't know these things existed

Thats because the average pleb has absolutely zero need for a xeon.

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Hello /pcbg/, I come from /fgg/ (fighting game general) from /vg/. Input lag is obviously a big factor for purchasing a monitor when it comes to gaming, however, as a fighting game player, most, if not all of our games only go up to 1080p since we mainly play on console. However as someone looking to get into PC gaming as well I noticed how some people are looking to get into 1440p gaming, even up to 4k.

So my question is, can monitors 1440p and above do well as a console monitor too? Or will the upscale look ugly and/or they may not have the minimal input lag I'm looking for (Display Lag only has info on 1080p monitors and HDTVs iirc) The reason I'm asking this is because I'm looking to build a PC with a GTX 1070 (or maybe 1080) since I have money to burn desu

However if the answer to the question above is no. Then I may as well save money and just build a PC that can play games in high/ultra settings in 1080p (since I already have an ASUS MX279H) with the GTX 1060 (when they become available again...... someday) or maybe an RX 480 (assuming I don't care about the parts burning)

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Figured this place was the best place to ask my question.

I'm not building a PC, I'm upgrading my current one with a simple GTX 1060. I previously had 680. I got my 1060 today, hooked it up and my computer doesn't make it POST.

CPU, RAM, VGA LED all flash successfully but Boot_device doesn't. It get's stuck there and never boots up bios.

If I have a monitor hooked up, the motherboard VGA light shines and stops there. Not making it POST. Replacing the 1060 with my older (Radeon)AMD 6770 and it works just fine. Boots up normally.

Does this mean my 1060 is defect?
Here are my current specs
>Sabertooth P67 | Motherboard
>i7 2600k @ 4,0ghz
>HyperX 1333hz 16 gb Ram
>2x 120gb SSD | 1x WD Green 1TB

Lights in webm goes as follow:
>CPU LED
>RAM LED
>VGA LED
>Boot LED

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1st time builder here.

All my parts are delivered. How long does it take to put everything together would you say?

Like, when you built your first, how long?

>>56113119

Nuke drivers, reset cmos, disable any cpu overclocks and generally set your system back to stock and test from there.

>>56104651
Anyone have a Asus x99 deluxe 2? How is it? Is it easy to get hardare passthrough running on?

>>56113218
About 1 hour for each part to make sure you didn't make any fatal mistakes.

After that maybe 30 minutes total when you realize computer parts really aren't that fragile.

>>56106178
I'd honestly just invest in a good air compressor. They last forever and are totally worth the investment. You can get them from arts & craft stores or Sears/Home Depot etc. The one my mom bought like 30 years ago still works great. Cleans the shit out of a dusty old case. We obviously use it for filling car tires and shit too.

>b-but it won't fit in my room which is a partitioned corner in my mom's basement
leave it in the garage where it belongs nerd.

when the fuck is evga going to add their dual 1060 gtx card

it's the only thing left i'm waiting for

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LrCzM

budget of $1600, how does this look? I have no idea what I'm doing any more honestly

>>56116072
You want to reduce cost? Or improve within your given budget? As far as getting a good machine out of $1524, there isn't a whole lot left to improve on. Id rather use a 1070, but I remember the other thread you said you want an AMD card, and that's the best one there is.

I won't comment on the monitor because I know nothing about them.

>>56116138
I'd really prefer an Nvidia card since they seem superior at every level, but I cannot justify buying an inferior monitor just to have G-Sync. The monitor in my list is one of the best 144hz 1080p monitors, but with Freesync, so I'm locked in to AMD unless I massively increase my budget to accommodate the 1070 and PG248Q (which is good but not as nice).

Just looking to improve within the range of $1500-$1600. The only thing I've truly researched in depth are a shit ton of monitors, so if there's a better case or fan or mobo or something, I'm willing to switch. If there's nothing left to improve on, I'll lock it in and start ordering the pieces in 3 weeks or so. at least it will be a massive weight lifted off my shoulders

thank you for all the help between the multiple threads

>>56113119
>>56113274
I reset Cmos, I was going to reset it by taking out the battery. But that became a very hard thing to do when the stupid "Thermal Armor" on my motherboard blocks it. I plugged in my old GPU, booted bios and "Loaded optimized settings". Plugged in my 1060 and it booted!

However, downloading driver for 1060 doesn't work, when attempting to install it says; "This Nvidia graphics driver is not compatible with this version of windows." Fucked up, as I'm running Win10 x64 with the appropriate driver selected.


Same for when installing through Experience.
I then downloaded Display Driver uninstaller from Guru3D and did a clean whipe. But I did it with 1060 hooked up. Not sure if that has anything to do with this problem.

>>56116256
Will bumping your SSD up to 500gb still fit your budget? I find it super convenient to not have to move shit off my SSD all the time. only big files go on my hard disk.

>>56116566

> I plugged in my old GPU, booted bios and "Loaded optimized settings". Plugged in my 1060 and it booted!

Reseting cmos is one of the things to do when shit won't even boot but naturally it will nuke all of your custom configurations.

>I then downloaded Display Driver uninstaller

DDU is the default answer to any and all driver installation woes as it nukes all the registry shit AMD's and Nvidia's uninstaller leaves behind. Hell if you are ultra paranoid you should run it before even installing a newer driver (but 99% of the time its unneeded).

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>>56116666
Yeah, I had to. These past few days I've gone from 680 to 570 to amd 6770. ALl with driver uninstall and install. So pretty sure that's why my 1060 couldn't boot POST

Clearing cmos helped, but now I got a new problem. I cannot install any driver for my 1060.
Nvidia gives me error then i tried installing it through windows devices. pic related. I have no idea what to do.

I spent $1200 on a monitor, help

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I just got conned by the WD Green-to-Blue rebrand and brought it home before finding the RPM label indicating it's sub-7K (and of course no seek speed or platter information on the box because who needs those lol!) because I am incompetent, abuse me please.

>>56116566
Update bios. sometimes P67 boards that don't have UEFI will have compatibility issues with Maxwell and higher GPUs.

>>56116804
Now I'm pissed. I ran DDU again, in safe mode.
Turned out there was leftovers from 570 driver. Not a problem clean it out and restart.. Ran it again just to check.. Only "Microsoft Display adapter" was found, which is what it should be. But attempting to install Nvidia driver gives me pic related error.. what the fuck..

>>56116980
I don't remember the exact bios version im on, but I do believe I'm running the latest version. Even if not, I do have UEFI. But I'll double check.

>>56116980
>>56117038
Yes, running Bios Rev 3602. Just for the fuck of it, i re-flashed it but nothing's changed. same issue.

Going to refresh Cmos again, install 6770. Driver and all. Whipe it again properly with DDU and install 1060...I don't know what else to do.

I want a gtx 1070 with the evga acx3.0 cooler to match my black and white build. The SC version is only $20 more than the base cooler version, but I'm a cheap fuck and I'm trying to reduce the price of my build. Should I just get the SC version? What's the difference other than a little bit of core clock?

>>56118327
overclock it yourself, dont pay 20 bucks for them to overclock it for you

how is this thread dead

>>56120169
Honestly, I think it's just Falcon and 2 or 3 of the same Anon's giving advice. We've probably eaten up most of the people with new builds for now. The board itself is rather slow at the moment too.

Why do gamers insist on using an ssd? It barely helps game performance.

Ok, since the thread is slow, here's a bit of a challenge, Assemble the cheapest poorfag Witcher 3 machine you can that can hit say, 60 fps on the high preset with post-processing off. This means you probably at least need a gtx 960, or if you're a bargain hunter, a used 780 or some such. The real question is, what what cpu/chipset to run? You can get an i3 6100, a cheapo z170 mobo, and OC the piss out of it, or you could maybe find a haswell i5 and an even cheaper mobo, use stock intel cooler.

The logicalincrements $589 build will be the benchmark. No housefire power supplies, cases with no airflow, ect. Pretend it's a system you'd actually want to use. Refurb parts are fine, but link to prove it actually exists (i.e http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125884)

This is for the people in the thread that like putting together lists, since there's nobody asking for lists right now.

fury x guy here >>56116072
should I wait for the rx 490? I can't start buying the components until 3-4 weeks from now anyway, so that might push me pretty close to the 490 release, right? is the 4gb a concern for the fury x?

>>56116579
I can't even really think what I'd put on the ssd aside from the OS and WoW. what do you put on yours that would fill up 250gb, let alone 500gb? just your most played games?

>>56120198
I used mine for a boot drive but it apparently helps loading screens.

>>56120959
Since i posed the challenge, i'll give my attempt here: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/n8Lxcc

(i.e http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125884) for the video card. The same one I linked in the other post. Just did that as an example though.

>is the 4gb a concern for the fury x
Uhh as far as "future proofing" for 1440p ultra settings games? Yes. Even current titles can easily use 4gb. The problem is nobody REALLY knows when Vega launches. There's been whispers. Supposedly October official release date. You COULD buy the whole machine, use it for a little while on intel graphics, and just slap a video card in later. It's a weird time in the market, that's for sure.

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>>56120959
>>56121179
Oh damn. I didn't realize the i3 can't overclock except on those select few motherboards. I guess we'll go with this instead;
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xHvF8K

Complete noob here, what should I look for in a power supply? I have crossfired graphics cards (someone else built it) and want a supply better than my current one which is freezing my pc because not enough power (600w). Good/bad brands?

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>>56107564
No it's a fictional 2channel equivalent. Going to an American imageboard to reconnect with Japanese culture instead of a Japanese textboard doesn't make sense.

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So I have the dubious 'pleasure' of building my first PC in South Korea.
I kinda managed to scavenge together the parts that I need to put together what I want, but I'm unsure about one thing; did I choose the right CPU? There's literally 13 variations of it and I have no idea which one would be better or worse.

The one I picked here is a 'mini'.
>http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=304758

Should I get a 'regular'?
>http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=306289

Or should I get an H170 based on the rest of the build?

I'm not that knowledgeable and dealing with this in Korean is a bitch so any help would be appreciated.
Also if I missed anything crucial please let me know.

Please note that prices are very different here than in the US, and I know about Danawa. I might just go to Yongsan in person and scrape everything together if the price difference between that and this online store is significant.

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>>56123150
j/k I said 13 but I meant 'a gazillion'

I pulled up all the 'regular' size ones.

Asus B150 PRO GAMING/AURA
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=310267

Asus B150-PLUS
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=315849

ASRock B150 Pro4/3.1
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=311459

Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=306702

Asus B150 PRO GAMING D3
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=304944

Asus B150PRO
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=311120

Gigabyte GA-B150-HD3
http://www.icoda.co.kr/goods/detail.html?num=306289

Does it matter what I choose?

What's the best bang for your buck GPU right now?

>>56124491
RX 470

>>56124508

From a pure price vs performance perspective a 470 basically invalidates every other gpu.

>>56104651
rate

>WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm SATA
>Alpenföhn Atlas - 200W TDP
>EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply
>Dynamode Compact Bluetooth™ USB adapter (BT-USB-M2)
>Antec P280 Super Midi Tower Case - Gun Metal Black
>Asus Z170-K Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
>Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-17000C16 2133MHz Quad Channel Kit
>Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz
>Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB
>KFA2 GeForce GTX 1060 EX OC

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Hi guys.
My wife has to buy a Wacom Cintiq 22HD for work, and the specs say that the thing only has a DVI connector. I need to get a new video card since I will need 2 DVI and 1 HDMI out (cintiq, monitor and tv) and my current GTX 550TI is not enough.
What's the most budget card I can get with at least 2 DVI and 1 HDMI?
I was looking at pic related Gigabyte 750TI which is like 120€ in my country.

>WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm SATA
WD is worse than Seagate in almost every respect (Think AMD cpus if they had the Intel price premium)
>Alpenföhn Atlas - 200W TDP
wat
>EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply
EVGA is NOT seasonic based so its housefire tier
>Dynamode Compact Bluetooth™ USB adapter (BT-USB-M2)
ok
>Antec P280 Super Midi Tower Case - Gun Metal Black
decent
>Asus Z170-K Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
asus is low quality shit trying to sell itself as premium, just get gigabyte or asrock or just anything but asus
>Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-17000C16 2133MHz Quad Channel Kit
decenct
>Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz
decent
>Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB
Samsung is better
>KFA2 GeForce GTX 1060 EX OC
KFA2 is shit tier and the 480/470 is better

>>56125417
>getting a 750 ti in 2016
The RX 460 is the same price but better in every single way

>>56121067
The fury x is decent for that price but if you care about efficiency or think that fury x/980 ti/1070 class preformance is not enough then wait for vega

>>56109454
total war warhammer is very optimized thanks to DX12 and async

>tfw 7000 units on screen at once running 60fps 1440p maxed out (except for 2X AA as opposed to something like 8X)

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>>56104651

Is it really worth getting a Z170 with higher frequency RAM rather than a B-150 with 2133?

I am not an overclocker but I do want my build to be futureproof.

White Label "enterprise grade" 7200rpm vs HGST 5700rpm
Same $/tb price
Will have an ssd booting for OS but this drive will be running most games.

Z170 motherboards blending into one

i5-6500 (or get the 6600K?)
RX 480 8GB
8GB RAM

I have DT 770 80ohms so perhaps decent audio plays into this.

Budget >£140

>>56125779
>RX 460
Nope, lowest price is 159€ and has 1 HDMI, 1 DVI and 1 DP
Clearly you haven't read my post

>>56125870

Do H170 then? Unless you're sticking with b150 for price reasons

>>56120959
I could've gone with just an i3, but I'm assuming I'd eventually play games that use all the cores.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2G9YgL
4570 from ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-4570-3-2GHz-Quad-Core-SR14E-CM8064601464707-Processor-/262579666178

>>56122230
80+ bronze or better is a good start. See if anyone has done a detailed review of one you're thinking about buying, jonnyguru is a good place to start.

>>56126685
>white label
Eww no

>>56127081
The 750 ti isn't worth it these days unless you're stubbornly refusingg to replace the power supply in your prebuilt.

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>>56122230

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>>56127103
>>56125870

I am really confused. When I read the spec lists of the H170 mobo - it says only 2133 is supported.

When I check out the Z170, it says that all the other frequencies are supported (2400, 2666, etc.), but it has an (O.C.) next to the frequency. Basically I'm asking if I need to overclock anything if I buy higher frequency RAM with a Z170.

>>56127556
You need to OC the ram.

>>56127589

I know nothing about OCing. Do you do that in the BIOS?

Thanks dude.

>>56127677

Different anon, but I'm pretty sure for z170 you may have to OC ram in the bios for it to be over 2133, or at least a firmware update for your bios, or it may even recognize it as soon as you pop it in

Whereas with H170 i believe the max is 2133 for ram regardless of what you do, due to how the chipset is designed.

Regardless, you can always youtube shit, and among the "top tech" youtubers, I find Paul's hardware to be the least shill and pretty unbiased when it comes to amd vs intel vs nvidia.

Personally I had a lot of fun learning about ocing all my shit and doing it. Not that there's anything wrong with wanting to just plug shit in and leave it there till you need to replace it, different strokes

INTEL CORE I5 3570 3.4GHZ/6MB

KINGSTON 8GB DDR3

SEAGATE 1TB BARRACUDA INT SATA3 HDD

MSI R9-270X TWIN FROZR GAMING OC 2GB

MSI B75MA-P45 INTEL B75 LGA1155 MAINBOARD

COOLERMASTER 725W EXTREMEPOWER 2 ATX POWER SUPPLY RS-725-PCAR

COOLERMASTER 690 III ATX TOWER CHASSIS CMS-693-KWN1

for $371

y/n?

>>56127801

If it already has wandows installed that's bretty good

Should run plenty of modern games at 60 fps @ 1080 w/ low-medium settings, and run most esport games outside of heroes of the storm at ultra settings

>>56127801

>that psu

I wouldn't try and actually get that thing to deliver 700w.

>>56127737

Yeah I suppose I'm just wondering if I get a z170 and 2666 RAM, it will be as simple as plug and play. Perhaps others can chime in.

>>56127801
go for it. it'll probably beat any console in terms of performance

>>56127885
if you'd read the part list you'd realize you didn't have to.

>>56127946

Not having to and thinking you can are two different things. When anon decides to rebuild his system he might go "hmm well I have a 700w psu, so this 295x2 I found for cheap will work just fine!" only to find out that no, he was jewed on a psu and his body is recovered by fire fighters 8 hours later.

>>56127946
>>56127958
>>56127885
complete noob to this, what's wrong with that?

there's some green stuff on one of the heatpipes of my hyper T4, possibly corrosion? should i be worried at all?

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>>56128028

Its not a good psu. Its more than enough for the i3/270x build but for any seriously thirsty hardware? I'd think twice.

Hell its only rated for 600w on the 12v rail on the label, fuck knows what it actually delivers when stressed (i'd guess in the 500w range).

>>56128173
>28 amps on 12v rail
KEK

>>56128199

Its hilariously bad for high power gpus.

https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards

>>56128173
how about

i5 3570k Unlocked [email protected]
Cooler Master low profile CPU Cooler
8GB DDR3 Kingston Hyperx RAM500GB Western Digital Caviar Black HDD
ASUS GTX 750 1GB GDDR5
PSU: OCZ 500W 80+ Silver power supply Cooler Master elite casing with window

for 430?

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>>56128266

I'd prefer the 270x build as an overclocked i5 isn't worth it when paired with a fucking potato 750.

>>56128266
750 is actually worse than a 270x. it's on par with a gtx 950 or rx 460.

>>56128266
>gtx 750
>not even the 750 ti

>>56128298
But the 950 is better than the 750 ti.

>>56128313
i know, i'm talking about the 270x's performance.

>>56128266
Just build your own instead of looking on craigslist.

>>56128320
Ah. You not english so great.

>>56128349
no time, in the military now

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Need some help please /g/. Ive got a maximum budget of £600 to build a new pc. I dont know much about computers (a mate of mine will be the one putting it all together) so im not sure what the best parts i can get for that are so any help would be great. If it helps the games that i'll be playing mainly are guild wars 2, rocket league, probably some cs go and maybe some dark souls.

>>56128481
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZM83Z8

cpu is good enough to not bottleneck any future upgrades for years to come. you can switch the gpu with an rx 460 but its not on pcpartpicker.

>>56128537
if you want to be ultra jew you could step down to an i3 or get rid of the ssd or hdd.

>>56128537
Hopefully its all approximatly the same value in the uk

>>56128481

i3
480
quality 450-500w psu
8gb fast ram
fill rest of budget out with whatever.

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Any of you use this m1 case for an AMD Apu build? I need a small platform with processing power and be able to take multiple 3.5hdd

>>56128537
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hPJW3F
here this is a little bit more expencive but its way worth the small increase in cost

>>56129102
>AMD APU
>processing power
Intel HD iGPUs are better these days, and of course AMD CPUs are all complete shit. top kek mate.

>>56128537
Unfortunatly this came to (thanks to uk vat) £740, £140 over budget

>>56129135
>>56129157
And that one would be even more overbudget. The £600 budget is strict

>>56129138
Name an Intel CPU that's better than the amd 7870k and costs about the same. I rather not give more money to kikes.
Ty

>>56129178
How is this for just under £600?

>>56129240
>>56129240
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-z1-intel-z170-configurable-skylake-ddr4-gaming-pc-fs-153-og.html

Hows that for just under £600?

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Samefag here >>56107531

How does this look? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fPXt8K

Any help would be appreciated because I really don't know what I'm doing and I'd like this PC to last for some years
>mfw looking at Titan X prices

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>>56129138

>hurr durr i'm retarded

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/a10-7860k/1

>>56128382
It'll take a few hours at most. You're wasting more time looking through all those shitty listings.

>>56129250
Also for americans this is around 780 dollars (£600). Is it any good for that price?

>>56129753
>>56129250
>i3
>970
you can build it for the same money or less yourself

I have two 4GB sticks in my 3~4-year-old computer.

Will I have made a tremendous mistake if I buy one 8GB stick to bring my total up to 16GB? I did just enough research to make sure they're the same frequency and their 4 latency numbers are the same.

Planning a build, never made anything before. Need it for animation/art, game development, and using engineer software.
Will this do?
CPU: Intel Broadwell-E Core i7-6850K
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti
SSD: Kingston SSDNow UV400 2.5' 120GB
HDD: Don't remeber model, 1 TB
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Sabertooth X99
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB 288-Pin DDR4
PSU: I don't know yet
Fans: I don't know yet
Case: I don't know yet

Hows this for £630
Will reeplace the 750 ti with a 960
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Vortex-500-Gaming-PC/

>>56130123
For americans this is $821 btw

>>56130123
>>56130148
Also that price includes the o/s

>>56104651
Any cases similar to the Corsair Carbide 540 but cheaper?
I really like the style and the space
it has all I need
but fucking 150€ for a case?

anyone any recommendations?

>>56130206
should have mentioned:
160mm cpu cooler
295mm GPU
ATX

>>56130233
165mm cpu cooler*
no optical drives
2x2,5"
1x3,5" (or 2x if there are no 2,5" bays, can put the two 2,5" in one 3,5" bay)

fuck I need to think before I post
triple post

>>56130123

>piece of shit case
>meh psu
>buying windows

Go buy the parts and build it yourself (and then pocket the cash).

What's a good, cheap 120gb SSD? Was looking at Kingston SSDnow v300 and PNY CS1311 but I heard some things about Kingston and PNY "bait-and-switching". Is it more of a meme or are these SSDs actually shit tier?

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I was thinking of upgrading my 8800 gts to a 480 but they seem to be sold out literally everywhere. What are my options if I were to order something by this saturday? Looking to spend under 300

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FjhNPs

vs

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fyQ2VY


or give me a good build under 1500 for games

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For an 'as cheap as possible' build, is this any good? I'll be using either a 1366x768 or 1280x720 monitor, and I don't expect to get more than 30 fps on lowest settings.

>>56130986

Get the fastest ram you can - AMD's apus respond well to fast ram for vidya due to the igpu being so bandwidth starved.

>>56111926
i fucked you're waifu, anon

I've spent probably 6-7 hours today or something building and I've almost gotten the motherboard attached to the case. This is the hardest thing I've ever done and I'm afraid I've already ruined the motherboard by touching it too much, or that I've messed something else up. I wish I had just paid extra money to have a professional build it for me, but maybe I'll actually finish it and it'll work. Who knows. Sorry for blog, I'm tired af.

Why the fuck is everyone putting fans in their lists? Just get a better case.

>>56130108
Bump it up to a 256gb ssd. You shouldn't need to replace the case fans.

>>56130815
Go with the 6600k, fuck those liquid coolers unless they use two or more fans, definitely get the 2x8gb sticks of ram over 4x4gb. Why are your builds so different with the peripherals? Did you just throw them into the build just because you had no clue what you wanted?

>>56131662
>6-7 hours
>hardest thing you've ever done
Wat. Have you never done anything with your hands besides hold a controller and masturbate?

>>56131662

>fit stand offs
>line motherboard up with said stand offs (don't forget I/O shield)
>attach with screws
>???
> PROFIT!

>>56131732
Thanks, I'll get a bigger SSD

Any PSU recommendation for an i5 and a R9 290?
During benchmark power consumption maxed out at around 400W, around 100W during normal usage.
I want something quiet because I'm tired of the noisy shit I have now(EVGA SuperNOVA 750B1 750W).

>>56130467
The bait and switch had something to do with some newer, lower performance than it used to have. The Sandisk 120gb SSD is the same price with much better favor

>>56131900

I doubt you'll get a truly silent psu when you actually start sucking down that juice as even a gold rated psu is going to be pulling best part of 500w from the wall to feed your system 400w.

>>56131994
Is 80+ platinum worth $30 more?

>>56131900
>>56131994
Oh, maybe I didn't explain it good enough.
I only need it to be quiet during normal usage, at 100-150W, not the few times I game.
I also don't want to pay so much for it around $70 maybe.

>>56132038

Platinum is only really worth it for really high wattage units (as when they are stressed you can be looking ar hundreds of watts wasted). For a 750w unit gold is more than enough.

Personally I prefer gold rated units regardless of wattage as a matter of principle (as usually higher rated units can't skimp on parts as they won't pass certification otherwise).

>>56131965
I've heard good things about Samsung SSDs.
Would it be worth going with a Samsung instead of Sandisk for an extra £10 or is there not actually much of a difference?

Thoughts on this for a sub $1k build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vRdTJV

>>56130108
6850k is wasted money over the 6800k unless you're going to be using 3 way SLI or a ton of RAID cards or 10GBe NICs.

You dont appear to be doing that so save yourself some money and get the 6800k, it's identical to the 6805k besides the PCIe lanes and they bother overclock to identical levels.

>>56132122

Some psu's - like a lot of superflower (and their rebranded EVGA versions) units - have a semi-passive mode (i.e the fan doesn't spin up until the unit reaches a certain temperature).

>>56132385
>6805k
6850k
>bother
both

>>56132419
autism

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Hey everyone! I'm currently doing a water loop for the first time. I was wondering if you had any advice for making this better?

>>56132523
Why do you have so many case fans?

>>56132523
What case is that?

>>56132385
Thank you

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Just went to my local computer/geek shop to get a quota for my new desktop gaming rig, the guys there are pretty professional and really know what they're talking about. Anyway I don't know much about picking out parts or building my own PC but my budget was about $700 and this is what they recommended me, just wanted to see what you guys thought, I know it's not top of the line but they said it'll still be high up there.

AMD FX6300 System

AMD FX6300 3.5 GHZ AMD3+

GIGA GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 AM3+

8GB DDR3 1600

EVGA 500W Power Supply

DIYPC D480-BK Window Mid Tower

Sapphire Radeon RX460 2GB

ASUS 24X DVDRW SATA OEM

SEAGATE 1TB SATA

EDIMAX EW-7811UN WRLS MINI USB

HYUNDAI 22IN LED LCD Monitor

The total is $724 for all of it, how does it look? Just wanted some other opinions on it, seems really solid to me.

>>56132594
Isn't a lot of case fans good though? I thought it prevents overheating and keeps the system cooler? I'm not him by the way, just saying.

>>56132728
A few good fans and a good airflow path will be just as good. With his water cooling setup, the parts that produce the most heat will be pumping it outside of the case, so he just needs a few to keep the rest of the stuff cooled.

>>56131732
the builds are different with the peripherals because my friend asked two different people to come up with builds in that range and the one who isn't me suggested all the corsair shit.

>>56132711
YOU ARE GETTING SCAMMED

>>56133071
Yeah had a feeling people would tell me that, but please elaborate? They told me the prices are a bit more because I'm getting them in a store compared to the internet but internet charges shipping and the store charges tax.

They told me even if you bought the parts online you'd be paying the equivalent of tax in shipping fees, also these guys have built dozens of computers. They even told me they built their own computers, they know they're stuff. I doubt they're scamming me, I mean sure I might not be getting the best price and value compared to if I had bought the parts online but I hate online shopping.

>>56132711

The only good part of that is the motherboard.

>>56133134
Welp, I'm probably gonna stick with it. It's 100x better than the laptop I have now which is garbage for playing games on. I've also had it for 4 years, so whatever. My laptop has 500MB of video memory and an intel HD graphic set, it's garbage FROM KING GARBAGE of the GARBAGE DYNASTY.

Besides I don't have very high expectations, they told me that set up would play any game I wanted at standard settings, not max or high settings but at least normal/default settings and that's good enough for me. If you want to go drop $1200 on high end of the line parts then go for it, I didn't have that high of a budget.

$700 was a stretch for me.

>>56132395
I have a EVGA SuperNOVA 750B1 750W now and it surely doesn't have a semi passive mode. Is it just some of the EVGA ones that does?
Anyway semi passive is something to look for then. How long does it take for them to reach the trigger temperature if you draw maybe 100W? I usually have my computer on from 12:00 to 03:00, so do you think it will stay cool enough so long?

>>56133189
See >>56127126

>>56133119
they are scamming you.

>>56133235
In what way?

>>56133233
What is it you want me to look at exactly? You need to explain it to me, I'm really retarded when it comes to PC parts.

>>56133189
get literally any intel you can afford, get an i3 before you get an AMD dont fall for the AMD meme, their single core performance is soooooo bad, it's unbearble in 2016.

Signed, ex AMD user who just upgraded to an i5.

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>>56133209

> How long does it take for them to reach the trigger temperature if you draw maybe 100W?

Thats impossible to answer without knowing the specifics of a given unit and your ambient temperatures.

>>56133260

>In what way?

There is no way in hell that build is worth 700 burgers. Hell the motherboard might actually be the most expensive component in there.

>>56133264

>their single core performance is soooooo bad, it's unbearble in 2016.

In the majority of games released in the last 2 years your typical i3 gets murdered by any of AMD's 8 core chips.

>>56133260
The pcpartpicker link. It will destroy that $724 build with enough money left over for some upgrades.

>>56133309
>Thats impossible to answer without knowing the specifics of a given unit and your ambient temperatures.
I was thinking more generally. My room is about 23 degrees Celsius and the computer draws 100W, how likely is it that it would manage 15 hours in those conditions?

>>56133390

Honestly I have no idea - thats for you to research yourself.

>>56133309
>In the majority of games released in the last 2 years your typical i3 gets murdered by any of AMD's 8 core chips.

I've seen a lot of talk between Intel and AMD, is it just personal preference which one people get? Some say AMD is amazing compared to Intel while others say Intel is better, I guess it's just subjective. The guys at my local shop told me they run AMD and say AMD is what they like, though Nvidia is nicer it's more expensive.

>>56132679
Thermaltake W100

>>56132594
I did go overboard didn't I? Think I should remove any?

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>have old ass Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste
>it was opened probably 2-3 years ago, no cap on
>used it a few days ago when reseating my CPU cooler
>my idle temps are between 35°C to 40°C, with an ambient of 25°C using a Noctua NH-D14
should I just buy new paste and redo it, or are my temps reasonable?

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>>56133762

> Some say AMD is amazing compared to Intel while others say Intel is better,

From a raw performance perspective Intel IS superior. However performance does not exist i na vacuum and cost has to be considered. Sure an i7 will murder AMD 99% of the time but you can get (say) an 8320e and a high tier motherboard for the cost of the i7 alone and an overclocked fx 8xxx chip generally is good competition for the likes of the 4770k in a lot of games.

I would certainly think twice about investing shitloads of money into an fx chip but if you can get one for a good price (and a decent mobo) they are capable chips.

>>56133857
What CPU do you have?
I have a i5-4460 with a NH-U9B SE2 and are around 33°C now.

>>56133857

>1.38v

No shit your cpu runs hot.

>>56134028
2500k @ 4.6GHz, 1.38V

>>56134070
b-b-b-but SB ;_;

maybe I'll declock so my voltage is under 1.3V, then see if my temps are similar to others

Just went to my local computer/geek shop to get a quota for my new desktop gaming rig, the guys there are pretty professional and really know what they're talking about. Anyway I don't know much about picking out parts or building my own PC but my budget was about $700 and this is what they recommended me, just wanted to see what you guys thought, I know it's not top of the line but they said it'll still be high up there.

AMD FX6300 System

AMD FX6300 3.5 GHZ AMD3+

GIGA GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 AM3+

8GB DDR3 1600

EVGA 500W Power Supply

DIYPC D480-BK Window Mid Tower

Sapphire Radeon RX460 2GB

ASUS 24X DVDRW SATA OEM

SEAGATE 1TB SATA

EDIMAX EW-7811UN WRLS MINI USB

HYUNDAI 22IN LED LCD Monitor

The total is $724 for all of it, how does it look? Just wanted some other opinions on it, seems really solid to me.

>>56134083
Well it's a older one than mine so it probably needs more power. You have a bigger cooler though...
You could always try with new paste it's not as it's really expensive.

Mine is around 0.990-1V.

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>>56134083

>b-b-b-but SB ;_;

Even with that sort of voltage thats awfully high idle temps (even assuming the chip isn't downclocking). My 8320e at 4.7ghz guzzling 1.428v on pic related doesn't idle that hot.

>>56134148
I think it may be the fans on the cooler. one of them is connected to the CPU_fan 4 pin, but the other runs at 400rpm constantly. would a fan controller work? I feel like all my fans either spin stupidly low or stupidly fast

>>56134146
I already bought the paste, just because I was at canada computers anyway and thought it's worth it so I don't have to go back

I just hate removing GPU, wifi card, and the fans, then cleaning off the tower and the cpu lid. oh well

>>56134207

> 400rpm constantly

No wonder your shit is exploding - even them mighty D14 won't cool effectively at only 400rpm. Off the top of my head the D14 includes a Y splitter in the box - conenct both fans to that and then plus the splitter into the cpu fan header. From there if shit still doesn't improve you might want to check your bios and see what sort of fan curve/profile you have set and possibly make it more aggressive.

>>56134207
Why do you need to do all that?

>>56134256
>includes a Y splitter in the box
I got the cooler and the paste used, and I guess the guy never gave me the splitter. I guess I'll just get one off of Amazon or something

>>56134261
the fan headers on my mobo are very tight. maybe I'm exaggerating, but it's still hard to properly reconnect things unless I remove my gpu

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>>56134305

The cpu fan header should be nowhere near your gpu.

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>>56134399
the cpu fan header isn't, but the one the 2nd fan is connected to is

gonna buy pic related. if my temps don't drop a bit, I'll redo the paste. wish I had asked sooner, because store closes at 8pm. guess I'll wait until tomorrow

thanks

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Got a better motherboard and now that everything is plugged apparently no current is flowing through it; I used a amp meter to check the PSU and it's fine but even using a screw driver to touch the + and - pins that turn on the motherboard won't work.
It's brand new and I purchased at a retail store what can I do?
The fans don't even start spinning.

>>56134495

Return it. If shit won't even get power there is something serious going on. Given you say you've checked the psu and everything is plugged in correctly logic dictates its a borked motherboard.

>>56134563
Ehhh... the thing is I bought this in another country and didn't take my current setup with me because it's too big.

>>56134083
I have a 2500k running a 4.5ghz @ 1.255v, Idle temps of 25-30 depending on ambient, max of 60 under full load. with a 212 evo. what the FUCK are you doing running 1.38v.

>>56134799
I have no clue 2bh m8-e

I'll try 4.5ghz at 1.3V, but I bet it won't even boot

>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6mCW3F

Getting close to finalizing this list, any thoughts? I want a good looking, stable 1440p machine for $1100, not factoring in the windows key (is Kinguin legit?)
The theme is everything being black and white. The psu is a bit pricey, but it seems every 600+w psu with all black cables under $70 is a house fire. Good build?

I have a bad motherboard and I'd like to return it but i don't have the anti static bag and some of the rest of the packaging. It's an MSI motherboard. What should I do?

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>>56104651
How many fucking times do we have to correct you niggers.
It's PC assembly.

Unless you're going full ahamed and building a clock you ain't building a PC.

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Just running a single stick of ram at the moment but looking to grab another, as it's been a while since i originally built i can't find the same model of ram. At the moment I have a G.Skill Ripjaws-X 8GB Single DDR3 1600 F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL.

Would any old stick of 8gb ddr3 work? Should I be looking for ram with the same clock speeds? Would it be worth looking into ddr4 ram?

Would love to upgrade my gpu too but don't have the money for it right now, definitely need more vram.

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>>56135728
Or should I just say fuck it, scrap the ram I have and buy a new 2x8gb set?

If so recommendations would be sweet, I remember seeing a chart comparing the different brands of ram with their pros and cons a while back if anyone has it (if it's still relevant).

>>56135728
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231527&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Memory+%28Desktop+Memory%29-_-N82E16820231527&gclid=CjwKEAjwltC9BRDRvMfD2N66nlISJACq8591EmEzax84BDoX6lSaOeHdYPmM2CR_FVapuMt9hW6QOxoCNE3w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

>>56135129
>additional case fan
FUCKING WHY?

>>56134495
Did you plug in the CPU power cable too? Are you sure your CPU isn't dead?

>>56135943
>additional case fan
>FUCKING WHY?
Why not? The s340 only has a rear exhaust and a top exaust. The front has no intakes, presumably for a front-mounted CLC. I'm going to take off the 2 exhaust fans, put them in the front, and add the aftermarket case fan for rear exhaust. Should give nice air flow.

I have a $1100 build listed out, do I buy it now or wait until black friday? Or buy most of it now and a GPU and/or nice monitor then?

just ordered an asus strix rx 470 spent less than 300
it looks like the best bang for my buck at that price point ...
did i fuck up or is the rx 470 a good card for under 300

>>56121067
Out of curiosity, why are you opting for a monitor with such a high framerate?

Looking at the specs, it's 1080p with a 1ms response time, and imo $250 is a bit much to pay for only 23 inches.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009969

^compared to the one you listed, it's 27", 2K, 1ms response, it just has a 60Hz rate, and no gamer price inflation.

Have you considered upping the resolution and screensize at the cost of decreased refresh rate? You seem to be looking for a gaming rig, but on that budget, so you think the types of games you're going to be playing are going to run at 100+ fps to take advantage of that? Just a thought. I might be late, but idk.

>>56137617
Black Friday is ~3 months away. If you are not in need, wait. 3 months is a long time though, so it is up to you whether it is worth the savings.

>>56137648
How much did you spend? RX470 is a sub-$200 card, not just sub-$300:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126124

I'm thinking of making a "flipper" pc, making it look real nice, while not spending a ton of money, sell it on craigslist for some profit. Just for a fun weekend project.
I've got an i5 6500 + gtx 1060 setup in the nzxt s340 that will cost me $870 total. This includes windows install, a half decent power supply ect. Nothing in the build is really of bad quality. Only a single hard drive though, no SSD. They can buy their own. I even managed to work an extra case fan into the budget.

Is $1150 too much to ask? I'll give the customer all the warrant papers, receipts and everything. This is basically charging $280 for assembly, shopping, ect. My local pc repair shop charges $75 per hour to assemble a machine from parts that you bring in, so I figure this is a reasonable markup, considering that I also spent time shopping for parts, and bothering to sell the thing.

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So, I've got enough parts lying around and enough space in my room that I'm thinking about doing a dedicated audio workstation setup. assuming all other specs are the same, would getting a socket 1150 i7 for the z97 board I have (pic related) or using the FX8350+ASRock 990FX combo I have floating around downstairs be better for audio production? pros of the AMD setup is that, well, I already have the expensive bits for it. cons would be slightly excessive power draw and poor single core performance (as far as I know, most DAWs have multicore support, how well that actually works remains to be seen).

on the other hand, the i7 is undoubtedly the stronger chip in this scenario, and the board I have has a pretty high end soundcard (with swappable OP-AMP) built into it. cons are pretty much just price related and the fact I'd probably need a "better" (higher quality) power supply with this setup.

>>56124978
Unless you're gonna be doing any media work or cpu bound games I would drop down to an i5-6400 and toss in an ssd

>>56138034
>>56124978
Never mind I'm retarded

>>56137989
A Haswell i7 would smoke an 8350 in any task

>>56137832
except canada
canadian newegg it's 259 and the local compooter store had it for 274.99

how long is newegg shipping because they were sold out at store and had to order it so i'd be waiting either way

>>56138068
But how CPU-taxing is audio work? He already has the mobo+CPU.

>>56138094
fx 8350 owner here. At stock clocks I get a multi threaded cinebench r15 score of 626 at stock clocks. I saw a 4770k @ 4.4ghz doing 872 in the same test. I'm sure you can make up some of the ground by overclocking the piss out of the AMD chip.

>>56138094
it depends on the VSTs you're using (looking at you, kontakt)

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I'm doing a refresh on my desktop, changing into a mini ITX form factor and adding liquid cooling and m2. Is any of this overkill or under kill?

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>>56138576
Here's the before for reference

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I did it guys, hope the 1080ti is worth it so I can upgrade next year.

>>56127801
think i'm gonna pull the trigger on this

so i should swap out the psu if i want to upgrade the gfx card?

i should be fine running stuff like bf4 on ultra right?

>>56111926
DELETE

>>56138777
>Upgradeing in the same generation
eat a shotgun mouthwash

Help me, please >>56129258

Also what kind of screen should I be using? I thought it doesn't matter and wanted to get a cheap 27" but if I end up using that graphics card I should be using its capabilities to the max

The more I read about parts the more confused I become, fug

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkfLPs

Any thoughts or see anything stick out? I only threw on the keyboard and mouse just to keep it mind for myself but I'm probably gonna get the monitor since I don't have one yet.

>>56140102
Forgot to mention, planing on 1080p gaming

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How did I do?
>inb4 buy intel goyim
also will the cooler fit if I upgrade to AM4 next year? >implying amd won't push zen back to 2020

>>56140115
>>56140102
>5400RPM
y tho

>>56140214
If you're gonna do the whole muh intel jews thing why would you buy Nvidia? It's far worse to buy an AMD CPU than it is to buy an AMD GPUs. AMD GPUs are slightly worse than Nvidia's offerings but not terrible. AMD CPUs are complete shit. You fucked up.

>>56140262
Because I don't know what I'm doing and hit the wrong button. Pretend thats 7200RPM

>>56140305
Sorry but I just looked at some 480 benchmarks and almost threw up
That's when I decided to go for the 1070
how are AMD GPUs "slightly worse"?

>>56140102
>>56140115
Get 144hz or 1440p. Either one of those is worth it. Also, there's really no point in buying an aftermarket cooler and spending extra on a motherboard designed for overclocking if you get a non-K CPU. Save the money on that stuff and use what you save get a 1070 instead, or get an SSD. Having your OS on an SSD feels real nice.

>>56139015
anyone?

>>56140373
AMD GPUs consume more power, have slightly worse performance overall, don't overclock nearly as well, and cost about the same.

AMD CPUs are just shit.

>>56140421
That's a decent deal. I'm assuming that is used hardware, so if something dies you'll have to pay out of pocket to replace, but you're saving a couple hundred bucks anyway so I guess it's fine.

>>56140421
Also that PSU is fine for just about any single GPU.

>>56140509
uhh
>>56128173
>>56127958

>>56140427
Call me again when Intel doesn'ta demand my soul for a CPU
honestly
>inb4 poorfag
but I used AMD CPUs my entire life and was _never_ disappointed (sorry if I'm some anomaly in your statistic) and double or triple the price for a decent high end CPU is not justified in my eyes
and the CPU I just ordered performs just as good as comparable CPUs from Intel in that price range in the games I play

>>56140427

>don't overclock nearly as well

>5ghz factory overclock

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Hey senpai, please rate this build that's been suggested to me but please ignore the cooking oil and broccoli stains.

>>56140700
Should have noted, with all parts ordered and everything put together for me it'll come to about $1,900 Australian Dollarydoos.

>>56140700

>locked i7
>960
>non descript tower and psu
>NON DESCRIPT PSU, DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER

i7 3770
asus P8H67M-LE R3.0
8 gb ddr3 ram
seagate 500 gb hdd
palit gtx 760 2gb
cooler master silent pro 500w psu
cooler master elite 430 chassis

for $448

y/n?

>>56140700
>i7-6700
>DDR4
did I miss something?
also
>HyperX Fury
>CL15
shiggy diggy

>>56140751

The 760 is potato.

>>56140732
>>56140767
If context helps I told him I needed to run shit like blender and unity as well as AAA games. Am I still getting meme'd on?

>>56140767
>>56140700
forgot to add
the GPU is slow and will bottleneck the rest
is that at the bottom dedicated sound and ethernet cards?
you absolutely do not need the bottom two

I think that's even for australian standards way too shit for 1900$
he wants to sell you shit for too much

>>56140732
Also, what would be a good PSU to ask for?

>>56140808
Thanks broskihamchacho, this is why I came to /g/. What would you do to fix this hit mess?

>>56140804
>blender, unity and AAA games
maybe if you want to render over night and AAA games are Witcher and Overwatch

>>56140814

I would be suspicious as to why there is an 850w psu in a computer that will draw maybe 300w tops under 100% load.

For the love of god /g/ no matter what wattage you get just make sure your psu is a decent unit - when psu's die they can (potentially) nuke everything connected to them.

>>56140820
kick out the last two points (100% meme)
get a better GPU in that price range - sorry I'm not familiar with australian prices
like the other anon said kick out the built in PSU or at least inform yourself if that PSU has any value at all or if it's no name shit that will burn down your house

but in general you should check the price for each piece
he probably wants to oversell you by a lage margin
never trust a shopkeeper

>>56140700
That build is a huge ripoff. I reckon make a thread in the whirlpool.com.au desktop forum with your budget, they will have a better knowledge of aus prices and stores.

>>56140922
True, thanks bloke.

sucks living in singapore, everything is marked up as fuck here

>>56140774
is the MSI GTX 760 HAWK same potato tier as that?

>>56141010

Off the top of my head the hawk cards tend to be some of the highest clocked of a given model, but the 760 in general is still potato.

See >>56128293

GTX or Quadro for a workstation with little emulation gaming?

>>56141482

GTX titan, titan black or (if you are insane) titan z are your only options really if you intend to do any gaming that leans on the gpu.

>>56141619
No money for these

Looking at GTX 970-980 vs Quadro 2K series, what's better?

>>56141661

What sort of workstation shit are you doing that a 970 or 980 would be remotely good at?

>>56141776
3D shit, those cards were recommended here http://blog.digitaltutors.com/top-five-gpus-to-power-your-3d-vfx-or-game-dev-system/ so I thought they're my best choice

Basically I have no idea, that's why I'm asking what I should go with

>>56137989
You've already got way more processing power than necessary. It's a DAW, it's just audio and medium effect processing, not 4K video layers.
The big thing is to get a real external DAC and move the sound AWAY from your motherboard and computer

>>56138120
Two well-effected instances of massive runs just fine on my laptop, all my other VSTs are have 80's Casio-tier processing power

Still looking for a build for about £550 ($720), only requirments is i want it to be able to run guild ward 2 on medium to max settings, rocket league and csgo. Any helps appeciated

>>56141936
>>56141947
>>56138217
main reason I'm asking whether to spring for the i7 is because my current i5 (4690k) starts to choke if I start using too many of the heavier VSTs at once (Kontakt, PhilharmoniK, etc.) and kontakt by itself takes 8 years to load some samples (although that might just be the software's fault, It does it in the standalone, too) I've tried loading both from an SSD and my 1tb. no real noticable change. then again, it really seems to depend on which set of samples I try to load (Drums of War loads in 5 seconds, Cinewinds takes a minute or two).

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>>56104651
rate my build /g/
case is a thermaltake versa h15

Should I grab a used EVGA Supercharge GTX 980 for $300CAD?

>>56142519
>H170
>6700k
why?

You spent more money on a CPU that can overclock but then decided to save money on the motherboard and get a board you can't overclock your overclockable processor with...

wew spicy meme.

>>56142620
because the 6700k is faster at stock speeds than the 6700. I never planned to overclock, I just wanted the fastest cpu I could buy

How is this for £600?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-vortex-minerva-gaming-pc-10139144-pdt.html
I know its pre built and from an overpriced shop but i really cba with building a pc myself as il be replacing it in a year anyway when il have alot more money to spend. Will this run gw2 on mid to max settings ok?

>>56106178
>coolers
Take the fans off and wash it with water and make sure it is dry before putting it back in the computer

>case
Either with a soft brush or by washing it with water after taking out everything including front panel ports, etc.

>motherboard, ram
Simply with a soft brush

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MZPW3F
How'd I do /g/?

>>56112138
>no one sells them.

You can find them on ebay for dirt cheap. I have seen 8 core xeons go for $60.

>inb4 what's the catch
Nothing usually. People dumpster dive servers that companies throw out and put the guts on ebay for low prices.

Is it worth getting a 6800k over a 5820k? An average 5820k can achieve max stable overclocks of 4.4-4.2ghz. The problem is that broadwell-e seems to need a lot of voltage past 3.8-4.0 ghz. Wat do?

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I want to upgrade and get a 6700k.

>see this

>>56142664
Anyone?

>>56142639
I dont understand this mentality, you want the overclockable CPU because it's the fastest CPU possible, but you're unwilling to spend $30 more on a better motherboard to overclock it to 4.5-4.7GHz?

That would give you an extra 10-15% performance for basically free.


God damn man-children need to educate yourselves.

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>>56142761
>An average 5820k can achieve max stable overclocks of 4.4-4.2ghz
4.4Ghz is super simple, 4.5-4.7GHz is possible on most 5820k's.

I run mine at 4.4GHz daily in the summer and 4.6GHz in the winter. and I can get it stable up to 4.7GHz without going over 1.34v


6800k as you mentioned however seems to hit a wall around 4.0-4.2GHz.

If you have a microcenter nearby you should be able to get a 5820k for around $300, i paid $290 for mine like 7 or 8 months ago.

>>56143046
>140w tdp
how much of a housefire is that cpu?

>>56143098
considering it has a soldered IHS and all the consumer CPUs from intel use TIM instead between the IHS. The temps are generally better than anything found in socket 1150.

I max around 72c.

>>56143005
it's ok, you don't have to understand other people's decisions. now go back to your containment area and keep rocking against the wall

>>56143117
because you based your choice off ignorance. If you're too stupid to OC, that's fine. But that's you being an idiot and not an actual reason.

You could easily read an article or two and overclock it yourself safely and easily in under an hour, instead you choose to remain ignorant, that's your choice.

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>>56143133
>being this buttblasted about other people's choices
whatever helps you sleep at night, brother

>>56143205
he's right though, buying a K sku cpu with a motherboard that can't overclock is a fucking waste of money.

>>56143205
The price difference for a Z170 vs H170 is what? $30-50?

So you're saving $30-50 today congrats, but you're giving up any chance of improving your performance unless you buy a whole new computer basically.
With Z170 you can keep it at stock for now and overclock to 4.5-4.7GHz in a year or two if you feel you need more performance.

Instead when you start needing more performance you will have no choice but to spend $400+ on a whole new platform upgrade.

Congrats on your savings of $50, hope it buys you something nice.

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yrF68K

Anything wrong?

I already have an 850W silver PSU, that's the closest I could find.

>>56143328
>b150
>6700k
>anything wrong
well your motherboard doesn't support overclocking even though you got an overclocking CPU.

Are you planning on buying ANOTHER motherboard down the line to overclock? Just spend the extra $ now and get a motherboard that can overclock from day 1 so you aren't buying things twice.

>>56143046
I guess I'll go with the 5820k then. I don't live in burgerland but the 6800k costs only $34 more than the 5820k and I was wondering whether the 6800k would be a better choice since the difference between the two is small. It looks like getting a 6800k would be paying more for less. Thanks kind anon.

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>>56143217
>>56143247
>implying I'm gonna need anything better than a stock 6700k in 2 years
are you all retarded or something? look, it's alright if all you idiots buy into the OCING GAYMUN bullshit with your gaudy republic of gaymen overpriced mobos and velociraptor ballistic ram sticks.

I invested in a better graphics card with the money I saved off the other components, because I believe that's what going to give me the edge in the future, and not some 10% clock speed difference. you can all calm your tits now

>>56143328
>970
>k CPU with a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking

>>56143348

Oh thanks, I did not know that.

How can I know that the mobo supports overclocking?

>>56143380

I already have the 970.

>>56143408
Z170 is for overclocking. B150 is for small business clients.

>>56143408
z170 motherboards support overclocking for skylake

>>56143360
>edge in the future, and not some 10% clock speed difference

By that logic you could've gotten a 6700 because apparently the %17 difference in clock speed difference isn't going to give you the edge.

What I am missing here, mostly I just need to replace my motherboard/cpu and get a new gpu.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxBRTH

What's another good 1151 LGA motherboard by the way? should I go with the i7 6670k?

I am more than likely gonna wait till Zen, in hopes of price drops, since I am in no hurry.

But just wanted to go over what I am gonna buy right now, and save the list.
>>56143408
>How can I know that the mobo supports overclocking?
Just look them up on newegg or google, most of them will tell you on their page.

Just use for searching LGA 1151.

For example the one in my link, supports overclocking.

>>56142664
Anyone able to help me with that?

>>56132711
ahh this pasta again

>>56143425
And the H170?

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>>56104887
>He fell for the overclock meme

>>56143580
H170 is home users who aren't overclocking, so any locked CPU would be fine in H170. Z170 is meant for 6600k and 6700k.

>>56143620
it honestly isn't even a meme. I do a lot of ps2 emulation and overclocking my i5 really helps with the more demanding games.

>>56143440
Btw, the price difference on Newegg is $20.

>>56143623
People should also be advised that many H170 mobos do not support frequencies higher than 2133 ddr4.

Be sure to read your specs people. We, /g/, can only spoonfeed so much.

>>56143715

What about Z170 motherboards?

I see a lot of "Z170-E Z170-M" etc.

>>56143795

Well, yeah. Z170s support higher RAM as well as overclocking an unlocked CPU.

>>56143831

No I mean is there a difference between -E and -M.

>>56143855

There is no E, and M. There is an "ME" board, which is basically an mATX Mobo which only supports DDR3 RAM.

So /g/, I currently have a system running a 2600k, with my old monitor I bought in 2006 -- 1440x900.

I'm going to upgrade my monitor to 1080p 144Hz, and I plan on getting a new video card shortly after, either a 470 or 480, depending on what's in stock, and what the price difference is at the time.

Am I going to start seeing a bottleneck in my 2600k for games, or am I still good-to-go?

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Just gonna repost this in the hope i can get some help

How is this for £600?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-vortex-minerva-gaming-pc-10139144-pdt.html
I know its pre built and from an overpriced shop but i really cba with building a pc myself as il be replacing it in a year anyway when il have alot more money to spend. Will this run gw2 on mid to max settings ok?

>>56143976
>as il be replacing it in a year anyway when il have alot more money to spend
Why not just wait a year, and spend that money on something else?

>>56143976
it's not terrible, but those piledriver "quad cores" are actually dual cores my man.

>>56134116
you posted this before, everyone told you it was bad.

>>56144106
Aslong as i can play guild wars 2 on medium ish settings atleast and rocket league and csgo then its ok

>>56144286
>>56144286
new thread

>>56143328
here
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mQjMvV
this build is better in every single way