/pcbg/ PC Building General

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What I am missing here, mostly I just need to replace my motherboard/cpu and get a new gpu.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxBRTH

What's another good 1151 LGA motherboard by the way? should I go with the i7 6670k?

I am more than likely gonna wait till Zen, in hopes of price drops, since I am in no hurry.

But just wanted to go over what I am gonna buy right now, and save the list.

A friend of mine is trying to build a Gaming PC with a budget of $1200 US Meme Points.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/W6VQD8

this is a build I've come up with, anyone have any input on anything I should change?

Reposting from the previous thread:

I currently have a system running a 2600k, with my old monitor I bought in 2006 -- 1440x900.

I'm going to upgrade my monitor to 1080p 144Hz, and I plan on getting a new video card shortly after, either a 470 or 480, depending on what's in stock, and what the price difference is at the time.

Am I going to start seeing a bottleneck in my 2600k for games, or am I still good-to-go?

>>56144318
buy a new PC before you go to the 1080p 144hz meme.

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Guy from previous thread.

I hate to be a pain I just have not built a new PC in quite a few years.

Is this all compatible?

>>56144408
yes

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>>56144286
r8 and h8 my new build

>>56144309
6700k you mean? for gaming, no. the motherboard you have right now is good.

>>56144593
>6700k you mean? for gaming, no.
Why?

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Just wanted to get afew more opinions on this: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-vortex-minerva-gaming-pc-10139144-pdt.html
Im shit with trying to build pcs and dont trust myself not to fuck something up. Will that be able to run guild wars 2 at mid-max settings? Il be replacing it in about a year probably but i just want something to play guild wars and rocket league on and maybe some other not intensive games.

>>56144593
I mostly want it for future proof, how good is the overclock ability of the processor compare to the 6600k?
I have a nearby microcenter, so I can easily get a cheap CPU+MOBO.

>>56144600
overkill. hyperthreading is a meme unless you use applications that actually require those extra 4 threads. keep in mind they aren't 4 cores, they're much weaker than the physical 4 cores already on the cpu.
>>56144618
they will overclock the same honestly, an i7 is just an i5 with hyperthreading.

>>56144338
Why? On what games is the 2600k a bottleneck?

>>56144803
>they will overclock the same honestly, an i7 is just an i5 with hyperthreading.
Somehow I don't believe, you but I am already leaning to the i5 so thanks.

Is there anything I need to know about cable sleeves for a PSU's modular cables? I bought a white PSU and want to sleeve the black cables but I don't really understand what I'm doing. Do I remove the black sleeve that came with the cables, or dodo the replacement sleeves just go over the existing ones?

>>56144906
they're the same architecture, they will OC exactly the same. the only difference between them is the stock clock frequency.

>>56144617
Well the cpu is absolute dogshit garbage, and the price is too high, but yeah it will play guild wars. You can get a lot better, for less money, but go ahead and buy the overpriced trash can.

>>56144317
>>56144317
>>56144317
pls help

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bmqnLD

Ready for the h8. I'm 100% serious about everything there.
Also if you have advice on speakers I'd like to hear it. I'm pretty dead set on everything else. Except maybe cooling. I'd like to try making my own loop because I never have before.

>>56145512
kys

>>56145466
Scrap the whole thing.
Not really. For 1200$ that'll do everything he needs.

#builtnotbought

>>56144317
>>56145466
1hr isn't a very long time dude, calm down. Its a solid list. If you want to save money, get a cheaper case and/or not buy those case fans. The enthoo pro cools just fine by itself.

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Last parts just came in, looking forward to the build.

Love how little power systems use at load these days.

>>56145512
Price clearly doesn't matter to you. Just buy whatever you want man. It's all compatible.

>>56145539
Thanks man ily too. Has anyone on /g/ ever done serious custom loop stuff? Once it's built I'll be happy to post pics. It's not like I won't save money if I can either. Any of the parts can go on sale.

>>56144318

No. I have a 2600k and a 1070. The thing is fantastic still. I run at 1440p@144hz. The resolution is the bottleneck currently. At 1080p you'll be fine.

>>56144617

Why would you deliberately spend more money than you need on a AWFUL set of specs?

Just get a Mac, seriously. You have no idea what you're doing. I can't believe people honestly think that they can fuck up building a PC, it's elementary level stuff.

>>56145683
I know it's all compatible I just wanted to share before I build/buy because /g/ will shit all over anyone who spends more. And like 1/7 criticisms may be valid.

>>56144286
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Is this legit outside of US? They recommend 4TB Seagate, ADATA SSD and AMD CPUs.

>>56146299
all in different tiers

>>56145074
Shameless self-bump

>>56146321
Even their best build recommends 4TB Seagate. Who would throw a Seagate in his nearly 4000€ computer?

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>>56146371
Seagate > WD

>>56145512
>pays 1800 for a gpu
>buys some shitty headset instead of a HD800
Like, seriously mate...

Roughly a year ago I bought a new PC, now the ram that I bought can't be found in any store; what do I do?
I bought "8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-14900U CL9", and can't find the exact ram anywhere, should I ditch it and buy new 16gb, or what should I do?

>>56146407
1. Seagate 4TB is still dog shit
2. I wasn't shilling WD
Now please explain why would anyone buy a fucking Seagate 4TB for a 4000€ build?
I think they should change some positions in their guide.

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Gotta build a decent gaming pc but on a budget. My budget is £500-600. For american memefriends thats $657 (£500) maximum as VAT here will add up to like £100 or something. Really need some help with this, i know im not gonna get anything great for that price but something that can run most games at atleast medium settings would be good. Would really appreciate any help.

>>56146509
Calm down WD shill

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Is Intel really creating many many sockets just to earn more money? After integrating the FSB in the CPU, the number of incompatible and near-exact sockets don't stop to rise. I can't even be sure that one i3 is compatible with another i3, as there are revisions of the socket, and they change 1 or 5 pins... The CPUs have the same name "i3", but each one is from different generations, and so the number of CPUs for the socket is limited, as it's already obsolete. Also, the CPUs are having some kind of DRM chip inside, network control chip, and Intel helped create the UEFI monster....

This makes me sad. I tried to keep my old PCs, but couldn't, as they were old and stopped working. I don't want to use UEFI, I don't want to have CPUs with sockets already obsolete. Is AMD doing the same thing? How will I be able to compute in the future, chinese "brands"??

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>>56146601
>shill
Fuck off Pajeet Shekelstein.

>>56146709
WD shill mad lol

What is a non shit looking liquid cooling setup that is quiet and isnt shit that cuddling my CPU? I am too autistic to use Corsair because they slap their shitty ship on virtually everything.

>>56146771
Nobody was talking about WD until you autist brought it up. Fucking hell.. >>>/v/

>>56146619
amd doesn't require you to buy a new motherboard each time a new cpu comes out, at least not as often as intel. so there's that.

>>56146815
>WDumb Redirecting people to /v/
WEW LAD

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>>56146875

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About to start building 1st PC wish me luck

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Huakka/saved/KHFJ7P

Plz no bully I'm newish to this stuff
Help would be appreciated, I've done my research on shit for the past couple of weeks

>>56146454
I'm not an audiophile, I like how comfortable those felt vs the HD800, and the Mic quality is good. I use them to watch movies and and play games not listen to completely lossless audio or some shit. I also don't have a dac if you didn't see that.

>>56146586
Anyone?

>>56147015
>nvidia
yea i can tell your new

>>56147017
No keyboard or mouse? If you're going to use the deep cool AIO they just released the EX versions that perform better. Also the red and black color scheme is neat, but some of your fan choices seem weird. Other than that check reviews on that motherboard. The monitor is decent. Wait until November and more sales come up on ssd and such too.

>>56146901

That PSU is going to explode.
The SSD is very low quality and will likely experience rapid failure
You could have gotten an AIO loop for the same price as that Noctua
Your processor has a locked multiplier and can't be overclocked
That mouse is half the price on Amazon, and sucks anyway
>Thermaltake case

Did you actively try to choose the worst quality items that you could?

>>56147050
Nvidia isn't that bad

>>56147068
>>>56147050
>Nvidia isn't that bad
You're not totally wrong. But everyone has different needs and budgets. AMD works for some super penny pinchers but if you find a desk on an nvidia card and you've read some reviews go for it.

>>56144889
Almost nothing, that could can still handle almost any game around now.
It also has basically nothing to do with your graphics, I don't know what GPU you have but that's what you need to be looking at

Should I buy a used 970 for 170 dollars, or a new 1060 for 260 dollars?

>>56147015

that cooler blows, get a corsair aio
drop the shitty fans and get noctua or corsair for the same price
asus has a shitty rma process so get evga on the 1080 instead
that monitor rocks, enjoy. i have one myself

oh and the paint chips off crazy easy on the case so be careful when building

>>56147093
Well it's just that atm I have deep pockets so I thought a 1080 and a nice monitor would be good

>>56146792
Corsair + a sharpie

>>56147107
new 480 4gb for 200

>>56147254
I don't buy AMD cards, their drivers are garbage and the cooling is shit.

Just gonna repost to see if anyone can help

Gotta build a decent gaming pc but on a budget. My budget is £500-600. For american memefriends thats $657 (£500) maximum as VAT here will add up to like £100 or something. Really need some help with this, i know im not gonna get anything great for that price but something that can run most games at atleast medium settings would be good. Would really appreciate any help.

>>56147113
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Huakka/saved/KHFJ7P
?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnKmkT

my first pc build, r8.

>>56146586
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddzcTH
I tried, considering I did maybe 5 minutes of research I hope that works for you.

>>56147420
I laughed.

>>56147441
Why not an i3? Surely that wouldnt add too much on?

>>56147274
Then stop asking for opinions and just get the new titan x if you want to waste money. There's literally nothing wrong with AMD GPUs as long as you get one with a good cooler.

>>56146506
pls respond

>>56147478
Because if you did the same 5 minutes of research that I did youd see that it's at 3.2 ghz and can be easily overclocked to 4+ on a half decent cooler. Games care more about processing speed than cores. Youd also see that it gives some i5 and i7s a run for their money in several benchmarks.

>>56147511
Honestly, the g3258 meme died over a year ago for a reason. It's 2016, no-one should get a dualcore for gaming unless they're on poverty-tier budget. Pretty much all new games scale at least to 4 threads, at which point a Haswell i3 will match if not beat the g3258, and some games won't run at all without at least 4 threads available.

>>56147464
whats so funny? jealous of my super computer?

>Support for DDR4 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2133 MHz memory modules

What does that mean?

>>56147559
Yeah man it's sick.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQwZZ8

My budget is about 1500$, just looking for a second opinion before I start ordering. What do you guys think?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/L6xMvV
r8 h8.
Any reason to get the newest CPUs instead of the 5820k?

>>56147581
It means megahertz, the unit of frequency equivalent to a million actions or cycles per second

>>56147556
Hey man he said 600$ budget. If it goes to like 700$ yeah sure get a decent skyline i3. I wasn't trying to push the meme, just trying to fit a budget.

>>56147581
It means it can run with up to 2800 MHz RAM speeds, but you'll have to fiddle with the UEFI to get above 2133.

>>56147581
It means that it supports DDR4 RAMs having either 2133 MHz base clock speed or 2400/2666/2800 turbo clock speed. Get a RAM that doesn't overclock more than 2800 MHz.

>>56147581
Ram size

>Support for DDR4 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2400(O.C.) / 2133 MHz memory modules

what did he mean by this

>>56147646
He's reading his motherboard and/or CPU specs

>>56147594
Add an ssd. The 850 evo like 250gb or 150(?) go on sale all the time. Look at slickdeals.net until you find something. It'll still be under 1500

>>56147628
You realise you included a monitor into that price

>>56147594
Looks like what I'd buy if I wanted to drop that insane money on a 1080
A 1070 is more than enough for any non-4K gaming right now

>>56147679
Fuck my shit up senpai. Sorry I'm a retard forgot I did that. Yeah just go ahead with an i3. Was trying to be slick and be all "AND YOU CAN GET MONITOR!!" my bad.

>>56147628
>>56147679
And it was a $90 monitor

>>56147628
Drop the cooler, get a PSU appropriate for the actual wattage of the build (instead of getting a 750w PSU for 300W build) and switch to a B150 motherboard, and you'll be able to fit an i3 to the same budget.

>>56147690
Sorry I totally spaced, Im still looking for a 1440p/Gsync monitor at a decent price. I'm mainly buying a 1080 for future proofing, figure it should last me a long while. If anyone has any monitor recommendations though Id happily take them.

>>56147699
I mainly play guild wars 2 so that build should be fine for that shouldnt it?

How is this for 1080p gayman?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTR3Z8
Obviously not looking to have the (Purchased) parts changed, a friend is giving me them for F R E E since he's doing some autism level upgrades. Otherwise not picky about brands or whatever. Intel, Nvidia, AMD, Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, it don't matter to me.

>>56147733
Look dude, clearly I'm retarded so listen to what other people said. I was looking at things based off how I would buy it. Which is planning to upgrade in the future. You get the b150 motherboard, smaller psu without the gold efficiency and whatever else works for you

>>56147733
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/shJ9NN

heres a good build that will play guild wars at 4k

>>56147629
That's what I figured
So assuming I get sticks of 8gb with 2400, it would run them as 2133 unless I OC?

>>56145512
With that sort of budget aren't you considering a pcie or m.2 ssd?

Just lost my current job. Not gonna really miss it.

Looks like my budget will be around $1500 US at most.

What kind of gaming machine can I whip up with that?

>>56147723
I like the $500 dell one with 1440p 144hz and g sync

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MZPW3F

How'd I do /g/?
Main question right now is if samsung SSDs are worth it over others like kingston/sandisk etc

>>56147771
Personally I would pick a i5 6500 over a i5 6400 (better price/performance ratio) and an Asus mobo instead of an ASRock. The rest seems fine.

>>56147827
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/j2LTJV

good bang 4 the buck

>>56147793
I am. That was part of what I wanted feedback on. Intel makes some solid ones, but I've seen a lot about heat issues with U.2 and M.2. And the mobo supports it I just wanted to ask some folks here what some good ones were.

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How does something like this work? They claim that it can control up to 11 3 pin fans through pwm using a single 4 pin header on the mobo. I thought the fourth pin is for pwm and 3 pin fans can only be controlled through voltage regulation.

>>56147867
It looks ok. For what I know, Samsung 850 Evo starting from 250 GB is worthy over other brands. Your model must be a Samsung 750 Evo though, for 120 GB you could choose either a Crucial BX200 or a Sandisk Plus.

>>56147917
It probably takes the PWM signal from the mobo and uses it to adjust voltage for the other fans.

Still, if you want to control fan RPM using proper 4 pin PWM fans is a much better idea. They generally provide a wider adjustable range (I have 3000RPM fans that can run at 300) and they will also allow closer to linear adjustment. With voltage control you also risk fans not starting at all if the voltage is too low and the voltage a fan can start it is generally higher than the minimum voltage it will spin at once started.

>>56147885
Good call on the CPU, gonna look into mobos a bit more since I guess ASRock makes trash. Explains why it seemed to good to be true.

>>56147899
I'm not too familiar with AMD processors but that looks alright. 8 cores and 4.7 GHz

a 960 though?

>>56148064
asrock make good mobos. don't fall for the asus meme

What kind of games do I want installed in a SSD? New ones and graphic intensive? I assume old 2D ones would be okay in a regular HDD.

Also, if I want 2 external HDD's as backups, should I buy 2 of the same or is it better if they are different models?

>>56148132
ASUS still makes better high-end mobos, but otherwise ASRock is a good choice.

so 5820k vs 6700k or 6800k ? What would be better for different workloads.
pros cons

>>56148154
Games that take forever to load files/save
That's about it really, everything else get thrown on the ram

>>56148304

If you have to ask that question the only one you should get is the 6700k.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/N4Vz7h#problems
built this shit, its gonna cost me a fortune in the EU, but anyway im puzzled on two things:
1. Is the PSU too shit for this, and
2. Is Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO suitable? Not sure how much im gonna push the cpu.

>>56148304
6700k if you want an i7, but don't really deal with well-threaded workloads that scale for 8+ cores. 5820k if you want the best performance in things like encoding, rendering, etc. 6800k if you absolutely must have the newest and the best but are still too cheap to get a real octocore.

>>56148045

What do you recommend? I have more pwm fans than my mobo has headers for. All I want to do is find something other than a fan controller that can independently control up to at least 6 pwm fans.

>>56148420
>. 6800k if you absolutely must have the newest and the best but are still too cheap to get a real octocore
Think im gonna stick with the 5820k Than.
Thanks

>>56148398
no it's fine and yes. the evga 80 plus power supplies are decent quality.

>>56148398
I'd hesitate before getting a PSU that wasn't at least bronze rated, but apparently the EVGA 500w is pretty solid(at least in everything except efficiency), so what do I know. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=384

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>>56148430
If you want *independent* control and your mobo doesn't supply 6 channels, you'll need a fan controller, no way around that.

If you simply want to control 6 PWM fans, but you're fine with some of them not being controlled independently, you can use PWM splitter cables like pic related. I use these on my own system to control 6 fans across 3 channels:
>2 3000RPM fans as front intake on 1 splitter
>3 2400RPM fans as top/radiator exhaust on another splitter
>1 3000RPM fan as rear exhaust

Why do you need 6 independent channels? What's your setup like?

>>56144585
Why not get a smaller Corsair cooler and a slightly cheaper Asus mobo (like a z170-a) and bump your gpu to a 1080?

>>56148443
I don't know how a 5820K OCs compared to a 6800K, but there shouldn't be any reason (other than price if applicable) to go for Haswell-E opposed to Broadwell-E. 6800K is the direct replacement for 5820K.

>>56144889
only thing i could think of is heavy cpu intensive games like arma.

>>56148679
The problem with Broadwell-E is that it's more expensive than Haswell-E and the performance difference is marginal at best. So unless the prices go down, there really isn't any reason not to get Haswell-E while it's still available.

>>56145512
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bmqnLD

honestly, instead of the titan x just get two 1080s. it'll look better aesthetically and will probably get better performance no matter what you're doing.

also, get headphones, an amp, and a desk mic (just get a yeti since you're already basically brandwhoring) and some real speakers.

>>56148398
I suggest you this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wWqnLD

1) i5 6600K needs an aftermarket CPU cooler, whereas i5 6500 doesn't
2) since you're going to buy 2133 MHz RAM, why not going with a lower CL? Kingston Savage is better
3) Seasonic PSU costs more but at least it's Bronze certification

>>56146506
>>56146506
without the memory model, it's kinda hard to know EXACTLY what you're looking for, but this seems close.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231615

>>56146506

yes get a new set, ram is dirt cheap anyway and 16gb is future proof for the next 5+ years at least

>>56148732
This was what i gathered. and the reason im going with the 5820k

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>>56148597

Damn, that sucks. So a hub like this basically acts the same as a big splitter? For example if I used this would only one PWM show up under Speedfan or HWMonitor?

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looking to upgrade
I want to play the new deu sex, the evil rpg by obsidian & star citizen

>>56149005
Yes, that's a big splitter. PWM headers aren't "smart" and they don't use some sort of fancy data protocol to tell the fan what speed to run at. There's no way to turn 1 PWM header into multiple different ones. In theory you can use a splitter to control multiple fans from 1 header, but not each fan independently.

Still, why do you need 6 independent fans? Generally speaking you've got intake, exhaust and probably your CPU cooler.

>>56149139

While i'm torn on simply overclocking your cpu for now or burning it and getting a skylake i5 a good gpu upgrade for you would be something like the 480 or 1060.

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The corsair 230T case
IS A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
Thanks for reading, nerd.

>>56149284

There is a reason why /g/ tells everyone to get an R5 but nooo, you had to be special.

>>56149284
corsair carbide spec 01 is also a piece of shit.
corsair makes terrible products when you are on a budget.

>>56149139
Don't go AMD. There is literally no AMD processor worth getting right now because even low-end Intel processors are miles ahead of them.

I know this isn't a stupid questions thread but I was hoping you guys could answer this for me considering it's my first build.

I'm not getting a case with an optical drive so is updating drivers for my components as simple as once I have the OS installed just going to the website and downloading the latest driver package?

>>56149346
In certain mulithreaded applications, 8350 does beat out a i5-6500. Single threaded it's not even close though.

>>56149341
What about the obsidian series stuff? Like the 350D specifically? I avoided the air 240 because as cool as it is, people keep agreeing that it develops rattling problems

>>56147274
>being this underage

>>56149455
you might be better off downloading the drivers on a different computer onto a usb stick, then installing them from the usb

>>56149206
might just go with oc'ing my cpu & getting a new gpu as suggested by >>56149346,
considering it's cheaper than a new mobo, cpu & gpu

>>56149504
>micro atx max size
trash

>>56149455

Generally, yes.

>>56149537

The issue with overclocking (even a 6300) is you're gonna hit a wall with what the hyper evo can handle before you heat soak it. While the motherboard is decent i'm be surprised if you can get to 4.5ghz without a meltdown.

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I have access to search engines, but don't know where is a trustworthy place to check if some type of motherboard producer is good. I have as options:
>Asus
>Gigabyte
>AsRock
How to discover which one is better? People on 4chan always tell me AsRock is worse, but I can't confirm this if I don't know where is a good place to confirm!

>>56149734
gigabyte is worse than asrock

>>56149884
asus shill

>>56149734
>Korea: ASRock is the No.1 brand according to the Korea motherboard market share analysis in June 2012 (61% market share)

this should tell you enough......

>>56147899
>>56148087
Also I'm not sure about that case. It's kinda...iunno.

>>56149984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M60kP1Wvqo

this case is sick bro

>>56149948
Unfortunately this does not tells me enough, which is the problem in being popular in its own country?

>>56149734
Gigabyte > Asus > ASRock
But that doesn't mean ASRock is shit, they do make some good stuff, especially budget mobos.

>>56149884
This is not the information I need... See:
>How to discover which one is better?

Which is the better mobo:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0126R2LBK/?tag=pcp0f-21

or

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0126R3QPA/?tag=pcp0f-21

They're both practically the same price.

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>>56150083
it means that you should buy an ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming Motherboard

>>56149734

OCN usually has a few good motherboard threads (their one for am3+ is particularly helpful, if a bit old).

>>56150133
Fuck you.

Thinking of getting a HAF912. Any suggestions for better cases around the same price range?

>>56150057
Yeah but I don't think I really need hot swappable harddrives. Seems a little expensive for what you get.

>>56150144
>OCN
Orthodox Christian Network?

>>56150166

Overclock.net

>>56150104
See:
>>56150095

>>56150095
ASRock > Asus > Gigabyte

fixed

Does anyone know howthe AsRock Non-Z RAM OC thing actually work, if it does at all?

>>56150095
>>56150201

Judging from failure rates it would be Asus > Gigabyte > ASRock.

>>56150225

Asrock is biblically shit for AM3+. Never before have I seen such shitty vrms on supposed high end boards.

if my goal is 144hz QHD, should i wait till GTX1080 TI comes out? I have a 280x at the moment and a regular 60 hz monitor but price is not a point


are there any decent QHD/1440 ultrawides with 144hz even out?

>>56149542
But why? Planning on a z160 microatx mobo with enough slots for 2 gpus

>>56150276
There's the new pascal Titan X, it's better than best

Is water cooling worth it compared to something like the hyper 212 if I want to do some small overclocking?

Processor:
i5 6600k
GPU:
gtx 1070

Also bump >>56150156

>>56150201
See:
>>56150184

>>56150331

right but judging from the last titan/TI release, the TI had almost same performance as titan but at half the price, and was only released like 3 months after it

the titans already been out 1 month so maybe if the release scheme is the same again it'll be worth it just to wait

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LrCzM

anything I should change? people keep memeing >4gb at me so now I'm waiting for the rx 490

>>56150225
Can you prove that?

>>56150508
What the r9 furys not good enough?

>>56150552
apparently 4gb of vram is not enough

>>56150508
>WD black
>120$
Get a HGST drive.

>>56150603

Apart from when it is.

>>56150173
Thanks. But is it fit for me? I don't plan into overclocking.

>>56150123
pls help

:))

Would it be worth it to update from the 6700k to the 6800k for heavy VM work?

>>56150661

Just because a place is called overclock doesn't mean it doesn't have useful information unrelated to overclocking.

>>56150719
Should then I search for reviews of the motherboard models I saw on the online store?

>>56150740

Its a place to start.

>>56150758
>to start
Where to go after?

I've been trying to decide on a case for about 3 months now. I have everything else sorted out but I just can't find a chassis I like.

>>56150775

>give a man a review and he will learn a single thing
>tell a man how to research and he will be learned beyond his years

I dont want to install all the drivers that come on the disks with my hardware because they'll probably be outdated. Will I be able to just install the ethernet driver that comes with the mobo and then go straight to the manufacturers' websites and download the latest ones for mobo and gpu? This is probably an obvious question but it's my first time building a pc

>>56150814

be quiet! base 900.

>>56150814
Try and google for silent cases, fractal design makes really good ones.

Unless you want more "cool" looking ones.

>>56150820
I'm researching Oveclock.net, but without much success in finding reviews.

>>56150603
You could definitely do better if you wanted to but that's still a bomb setup

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>>56150839
>>56150849

Was looking at the Base 900. I've already gone through almost every case on their site. Think I'm just going to wait till this comes out.

>>56148673
I will be overclocking the cpu pretty good so i wanted a above average motherboard for that and cooling is obviously needed. 1070 should be enough for me for 1440

So DDR3 or DDR4?

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It seems that I can't really turn on my motherboard with the pos. and neg. pins (even touching them with a screwdriver)
I set up a jumper in my PSU and it seems to be working just fine (I just connected the PSU cables to 2 of my case fans) would I be able to connect the CPU power cable and HDD power as well to see if I can turn the motherboard on? or would this fry my motherboard/CPU/HDD?

>>56150954
SFF cases (node 202,jonsbo cases,Ncase M1,Dancase) > ATX/microATX cases
trust me otherwise you will regret later.

>>56151225

For some maybe. I've personally always gone with mid/full towers. I like big roomy cases.

>>56151061
anyone?

I want to turn the motherboard on like this picture I posted

>>56144317
I heard silent wings 2 are go to fans

>>56147911
Buy cheap ram heatsinks stick them on the vnand ssd

>>56144286
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfmTJV

Did I fuck up? If so what should I replace , and do you have any good monitor recommendations?

>>56150904
what should I change? not ordering anything for another 3 weeks or so, so I'm willing to swap out components still

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r8 my budget linux pc. i have more HDDs so that's not an issue. anything i'm missing or tips?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZ2cTH

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>>56151886
ill fix it up a bit, most notable things that there's issues with is the SSD + CPU

What do you plan to do on it?

>>56151937
what do you mean issues with ssd + cpu?
i'm mostly going to be programming. just a little bit of gaming. nothing heavy.

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>>56151976
What type of games you'll be playing?

And the CPU was a tad bit on the expensive side for light gaming, as we can downgrade to a 6300 and upgrade the motherboard for the same price, and have a really nice overclockable motherboard, for when you want that extra kick in future.

Also, the GPU sucks ass for gaming and you might as well have just gotten an intel CPU for the iGPU.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VcBnLD

Wayy better SSD (the Kingston ones suck dick and are slower than a good HDD).

Better motherboard for future overclocking if you want to, better GPU by far.

>>56152055
But the cores! Thought they'd help with compiling large code bases but idk if it'd be better just to get a faster cpu. 8 cores!

Gaming is just decade or so old games and Dwarf Fortress. Any hardware would probably do. I chose that gpu off of what connectors it has mostly. Maybe I should get an APU

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTV9NN

Looking to make a all around work PC for CAD, Blender, After Effect, Premiere, Photoshop, and programing. Light gaming will also be done but I doubt that will give me any issues. I imagine I will install both Windows 7 and probably Arch Linux but I don't think I'll have driver issues. Any advice would be appreciated as I need to be able to do all above well but I also don't mind cutting back on useless parts. Thanks for feedback ahead of time.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RqfZZ8

Building my first PC, budget was $1000 but if I can stay under $900 that's good too. How did I do? I'm not sure what kind of case I should get.

Jesus fuck man. I just compiled the parts for my build. Researched for weeks, almost $1600 down. Thought I did pretty fucking good.

Stroll through this god damn thread now I'm second guessing every purchase I made.

Fuck!

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hg9LPs

>>56152223
You fell for the water cooler meme, that's for sure.

G. Skill Ripjaw RAM is a shit

You could have saved some money and got a 550w or 650w PSU

and why a 75hz monitor?

That's really the only problems I see.

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>>56144286
>>56144286

First time posting here, hope some of you guys can offer some advice.

I've never built a computer before, but my brother and I salvaged an old office server room. I think that i can reuse some parts to build a cheap sub 200$ gaming computer, but I'm not entirely sure what my chances are of succeeding.

>Specs:
>Motherboard =
https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/Z8NRD12/
>RAM =
http://www.corsair.com/en/tr3x3g1333c9 (except that i have 6 sticks of 2 gig each)
>Processor =
Unidentified, all I know is that based on the motherboard they're some type of Intel Xeon 5500, I have two with the heat sinks.
>Power supply
Already included, a big as fuck 550 watt battery
>ROM / harddrive:
Three 1 terrabyte hard drives, probably beaten up, but hopefully I can get some use out of them.
>Disk driver
included in case.

That's everything. The big question atm is whether or not a graphics card can even fit. If anyone could take a look at the Motherboard pictures and give me a guess as to whether any decent graphics card would fit I would really appreciate it.

>>56152529
All the information you need was posted by you in your first link. Do you not know how to read?

>>56152210
I should add, I have a 1 TB external and that's why I didn't add one to go with the SSD

>>56152573
I expect most people don't, so I included it.

Do you think it could be compatible with a decent graphics card or not?

>>56152446
We'll I got the monitor for like $10 so there's that.

I do like the aesthetic of the water cooler though.

Anybody familiar with the Thermaltake Spinq, the original? I do have one of those but reviews were mixed at best

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>>56152596

>>56152138
Intel compiles a fuck ton faster than AMD, from personal experience.

Don't get an APU.

Swap the AMD shit for an i5 6600k and dont get a GPU.

>>56152651
Bear with me, I'm entirely new to this thing.

I assume most graphics cards fit the thread count I can see on the motherboard, its just a matter of actually accomodating for its size.

If i move all my RAM to the one side of the computer I guess it could still fit.

>>56152734
Actually, I think its only the longest pci slot that would work.

If so I think I couldn't fit it in with both heat sinks, would it be a bad idea to ditch the one covering one of the processors?

I mean, its all salvaged so its no great loss if it wears faster, but idk if it could damage the whole thing.

>>56152446
what's wrong with gskill ram? i have it my potential build >>56150508

Are Fractal Design's r5 cases memes? I've read people saying the fans are silent but bad for airflow.

>>56146832
Amd has not improved their processor since 2009 either. I'd say bulldozer was a step backwards if anything

>>56147050
hello poorfag

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So I was thinking of getting a new graphics card as my 6970 is more than starting to show its age. Would a 1070 be overkill for the rest of the parts or would it be fine?

If anyone in here recommends an AMD processor OR video card to people asking for help building their PC's, their opinion should be disregarded. Why would you advise someone new to PC building to get an inferior processor? I never understood this. Nvidia and Intel are both vastly superior to AMD, and anyone that recommends purchasing anything AMD is just trying to make themselves feel better over their shitty purchase, by sinking you with them. AMD shills are disgusting and their lives are just as pathetic as their hardware.

>>56153089
Might be, if you're not gonna upgrade anything else.

>>56153153
>if you're not gonna upgrade anything else
Later down the line I figured I would get the rest of the internals replaced, I meant more for now would it present any problems to only get a new graphics card in terms of bottleneck.

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Hi /g/ I'm a total newbie to pc building and I made this list up trying to keep it low budget (I still find it high at 900$). Anyhow, I was wondering if I could improve anything on here, ultimately this is for gaming so main goal is good graphics, I don't care for noise, yes the case stays. Thanks in advance.

Wouldn't operating frequency be something somebody would look for in a cpu? Especially with cores?

>>56153282
Why Haswell?

>>56153282
For what reason are you getting that 120GB SSD and not a larger capacity HDD for nonessentials, unless you have an additional PC for all your shit.

Also, for $900, 16GB of RAM seems overkill. I'd recommend 12. My rig from 6 years ago had 12 and I haven't encountered any situation where that's been even close to unsatisfactory. With those savings you might be able to get more storage.

>>56153282
>>56153347
this. go get skylake, theres really no reason if they sit at the same pricepoint

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My first build ever coming from a laptop, been changing it back and forth for over a week, want to play maxed out games at 1080p then eventually on a 1440 display above 60hz, also want snappy audio processing for DAWs, what do you think?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/f4QW3F

I have $600 to spend on an entirely new rig for gaming and video rendering. I have no idea where to start. Any tips? Recommended build/parts?

>>56153383
How do you plan on getting the sound out of your computer?

>>56153347
>>56153376
Please speak retard to me, I am noob. And also high...
>>56153358
Took one of the storage (the smaller one) out. Did what you said and got 1x4b and 1x8gb ram instead.

is there a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor? I've been looking around and all I find are TN panels.

>>56153449
You are looking at buying a 4th gen intel chip for 15 right now, and they have released the 6th gen.

It is the same price, but you're getting more out of the newer ones. make sure your motherboard matches the new chipset as well.

>>56153443
I have an external USB sound thingy I'll use, but doesn't the motherboard have some sort of basic audio?

>>56153479
>external usb sound thingy

I hope its a DAC. Go get a FiiO E10

>>56153449
Skylake is the latest generation if Intel's processors.

Yeah, my 250GB HDD filled up pretty fast, and considering some AAA games are easily going over 20-30GB. If you wanna have room for a lot on your PC at once see if you can fit in a 1TB drive in your budget.

>>56153479
Yeah, but the point I was getting at was why not have a sound card. If you have something external that's a different story though.

>>56153453
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/ ?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4TcTH
check it

>>56153516
I still don't see a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor on that site

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>>56153490
yeah, sound thingy is the technical jargon

Guys what is a non meme mid or full tower case for about $100? Any recommendations?

I'm gonna ask something really fucking dumb.

I just ordered an SSD. Which ways can I go about saving my files?
Do I transfer all files from my HDD to the SSD, or can I clean install windows on the SSD and then transfer the files I want from my old HDD that also has windows installed on it before I wipe it?


I also just upgraded my CPU that was very old to an i5 6600k and GA-H170M-D3H motherboard.

Did I make a bad decision?

>>56153652

Why. the hell. would you get an H170 mobo with a K CPU?

Yes you made a bad decision.

>>56153424
Anyone?

>>56153677
Care to explain more? Just saying it bad isn't going to change anything

>>56153697
You bought a specifically overclockable CPU with a motherboard that can't do it

>>56153525
Cool

>>56153600
Carbide 330R? $100-120, I have a hardon for Corsair's understated cases.

>>56153652
Do a clean install and transfer manually. I assume you know that your Documents/Music/Pictures etc in your libraries are still on the C drive and you can just copy paste those folders.

>>56153697
K means overclocking, and by the looks of it, that mobo won't let you overclock. So you wasted your money on the CPU.

>>56153424
>>56153683
You won't get very far on that budget, I'm afraid. My honest recommendation would be to save up at least twice that if you want to really do any form of rendering seriously, and spend the time you have to wait saving that up researching good parts.

>>56153744
Thanks. What are the alternatives then?

>>56153475
>>56153516
Alright thanks guys.

I also see I have to work on some compability issues so I'll go do that.

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>>56152189
Also can anyone recommend a good front panel usb hub? I need all the ports I can get.

>>56153754
Did you buy a fan?

>>56153779
I had "ordered" one with the motherboard, but when I realized the mistake I cancelled it all. This was the one I was buying.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Was this another retard move?

>>56153753
I'm on a limited time scale for earning the current amount that I'm earning now and $600 is the best I can do. I have a build in mind already but I'm not sure how it will be.

>>56153791
Well since you wouldn't be overclocking then that's fine

>>56153802
Post the build, I'm bored as fuck.

Word of warning though, if you do go through with it. You may end up with buyers remorse since odds are it won't be able to run the latest shit or render really intensive shit, and then you'll be stuck with a machine that doesn't fit your needs (idk how specific they are, you may be fine) and out $600.

>>56153806
So I'm a retard for getting a motherboard I can't overclock with. I cancel it and ask suggestions for a motherboard I should get and then I get told the fan is fine because I'm not overclocking??

wat

>>56153753
The 6600k is currently less than the 6600 on newegg

>>56153836
Get a z160 board not h160, and maybe a watercooler but the 6600k is powerful stock you don't have to overclock it immediately

>>56153836
You never mentioned wanting to OC, to be fair. Shoulda made your intentions clearer.

>>56153841
He never said where he got it though. Why's it cheaper? Sale?

>>56153791
>>56153836

No that fan would be ok.

You basically have two options. If you want to overclock, keep the fan and CPU you chose and upgrade to an overclocking motherboard. Z170 instead of H170 is the thing you want to look for iirc.

OR if you don't want to bother with overclocking, drop the fan and get an i5-6600 instead of a 6600K. The 6600 should come with a stock fan but double check to make sure before you buy it.

I think you can use a 6600K with an H170, but you won't be able to overclock it so it's kind of a waste of money. Unless you can find the 6600K for cheaper (plus the fan) than the 6600 somewhere.

>>56153858
I've got my 6600K up to 4.5mhz on air, doesn't get too hot. It's not a record-breaking overclock by any means but it does the job.

>>56153904
>4.5mhz
Meant 4.5 Ghz obviously, 4.5mhz isn't terribly impressive in 2016 lel

>>56153904
>4.5mhz
>mhz

Such speed.

>>56153872
I didn't really care. I was just looking to upgrade my 6 year old cpu and then got called a retard when I said it's what I planned on getting. So I'm asking what alternative things should I get for the same price point or around it.
>>56153904
>>56153858
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DDR05P6/?tag=pcpapi-20
what about this board? Does it seem fine?

From what I've seen a 6600 is more than a 6600k. My cpu has been bottlenecking me for years so it will be nice to upgrade. I'll probably try to upgrade my gpu in the next year or so. It will be the bottleneck now I imagine

>>56153931
yeah but think of the energy savings!!!

>>56153831

Intel Core i3-6100 3M

MSI B150M Pro-VD LGA

EVGA GeForce GTX 950

Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid-Tower Case

EVGA 500 W1

SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D SSD
(gonna add 2tb of ram later on)

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB

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Going to cost me $1000 CAD to do this upgrade. Is the m2 worth it?

>>56153904
How quiet is air cooling? Online they keep saying liquid is quieter so I looked at that but if you're running that on air I might start looking at cheaper cooljng

>>56153983
I can guarantee that there's nothing you're doing that would warrant that SSD. A 512gb 2.5" drive is cheap as hell and just as fast 90% of the time, most of that advantage is just in bandwidth not necessarily performance

>>56153934
That board's probably fine although Gigabyte does Z versions of their H boards if you wanted the same board but overclocking. Look up the GA-Z170M-D3H instead of the GA-H170M-D3H

>>56153996
Mine's pretty quiet although I have a Scythe Kotetsu which is different than the 212 EVO you're looking at. I can't hear it over my case fans at idle and it's very quiet under load, the fan rarely needs to spin up to full speed though because my case has pretty good air flow.

Watercooling is probably the quietest if that's your thing.

>>56153949
!!

>>56153934
If I were you I'd keep the K then, make a project out of OCing it.

>>56153952
>2TB of ram
I wish, dude. a RAM drive would moisten me right up.

Seriously though, that's not bad for $600, but the i3 probably lacks a lot of the power you're looking for. Any chance you can fit an i5 in the budget?

>>56153983
I would say definitively no. Go for a 250GB and a 2+TB HDD for other shit.

>>56153996
Can be pretty quiet, but yeah, a water pump's gonna most likely make less noise than fans.

>>56153983
Again, an overclocking CPU with a non-overclocking mobo, although if the 6600K is really cheaper than the 6600 right now then that's fine.

>>56154034
>>56154044
desu I only bought my pc like 6 years ago and only ever upgraded the gpu and then psu recently when it went out. So I have no idea about which brand is better than another anymore.

I'm all ears for any motherboard recommendations. I'd like to go with the cheapest quality board that won't just die. Not interested in sli/crossfire stuff because next time I can afford a new part it will most likely be a single GPU

>>56154044

Whoops, I meant an extra 2tb hard drive. Well, my budget is absolutely $600. Maybe just a little bit more.

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Still unclear what mobo i should get, can i get Some recommendation for This build?
>yes gayming
>But for CAD work too

>>56153983
>>56154054
Is there any point to be getting a motherboard for that much when you can get an alternative you can overclock on? The only reason why I had chosen the shitty one I can't overclock because it was $80 and I had no idea

>>56154092
A mini-ITX, Z160 chipset motherboard with your USB plugs of choice, you can try to save money, but those requirements aren't cheap

>>56153145
AMD processor I understand, but there is nothing wrong with AMD gpus if you're on a tight budget. kys novideo shill.

>>56154095
Well for that motherboard the Z170N version is more expensive. So if you're on a tight budget that's a consideration.

Other than that, no. I can't speak for you but personally if I was ready to drop $147 dollars on a motherboard I'd be willing to drop $180 instead for the overclocking version, ESPECIALLY if I'm already getting an unlocked processor. Whether or not you want to overclock is entirely your decision though, and if not then the H170 is fine.

I think I decided on this board for the 6600k

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0131GA4VE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I might be a fucking retard but what makes the other boards more expensive in the same line?
Is it just SLI? What are the downsides to this board

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>>56154095
>>56154054
>>56154044
>>56154031
Thanks anons, swapping the overpriced M2 for a better mobo.

>>56154087
Here's an idea, since money's tight. SSDs are still a money pit, and personally, I wouldn't use on as my primary storage.

The 7200rpm HDDs are pretty damn fast, so I might recommend you swap the SSD for something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=psdc_1254762011_t1_B000EY5F5C

Which gives you 4x the storage for 40 bucks less, and then with that savings you can put it into a little bit better i3 like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117621

Just a thought to get more power for your money.

>>56154171
But there are boards for $147 already so it doesn't make much sense to me. Like you're paying for a pricier motherboard you can't overclock, but can get one for the same exact price. So what is the point?


What makes a motherboard worth more than another besides the overclocking aspect of it?

I just realized that its been around two years since I built my PC
Can I throw away the boxes already?
been taking up space in my closet.

>>56154184

Well I was gonna use the SSD for my OS and other essential things like that. I plan on grabbing two 1tb HDs two weeks after I receive my build.>>56154184

>>56154230
that resale value bruh

>>56154192
>What makes a motherboard worth more than another besides the overclocking aspect of it?

tons of things, honestly. Integrated wifi, pci-e slots, SLI/xfire compatibility, RAM compatibility, USB ports (of different types and quantity), not to mention different brands have different policies w/r/t customer support and warranty and drivers and so on.

Plus there's always straight up build quality to take into account. Buddy of mine bought some cheap gigabyte SLI board that's advertised as full ATX but when he went to screw it into his case he found it was a little smaller and didn't use all the stand offs. Fit perfectly fine but when I was helping plug in all the stuff for his power supply it bent and flexed really worryingly.

>>56154244
Ah right, you have more space incoming. Well if you're happy with it, I see no reason not to make it happen.

>>56154230
You never know when you'll need to give your hardware nerd friend a dildo and dissappoint them in more ways than one.

>>56152890
you can remove the inside padding for more airflow but less silence

>>56154252
i flexed the shit out of my ASRock mobo because my case is a piece of shit, still works perfectly fine.

>>56154249
>>56154278
literally what?

>>56154278
Yeah, those specs are just for no. I'll be upgrading most of them shortly.

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So a buddy of mine recently gave me his old 750Ti to put in my potato rig, and i found out that it wont work, so i have decided to save up for a new comp. How does this look? Im going to be using it for 1920x1080 gaming, and i will eventually replace the 750 with a 1060 or something, whatever is good at the time. Do you guys have any recommendations for a mobo?

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>>56154583
Are you planing to overclock?

>>56154668
Yes. But it will be my first time OCing, so it wont be that high

>>56145705
Thanks.

>>56147104
260X, because at the time I bought it, my monitor's low resolution made anything higher a waste of money.

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No stupid questions thread so I figured I'd ask here.

How do I disconnect this bios battery so to reset it?

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>>56154668
planning* fuck I am a retard

>>56154701

Everything looks fine for the most part. Although if I was you I might switch that WD Blue Hard Drive for a black one or just get a cheap SSD to put the OS on.

Having put that heat sink on in the past I am refusing to do so ever again. Not because it is bad or doesn't work but it is a cunt to install. Might be worth the $40 or so extra bucks one of Corsairs easy to install water cooler.

Moar RAM? 8 is fine but you might want to upgrade to 16 gigs to be safe.

>>56154774

You should be able to pry it out by pushing on the silver tab holding it down to the left. It should pop out as there is usually a spring underneath.

>>56152690
>i5 6600k
that's a full $100+ of what i'm paying for an 8 core 3.5 GHz amd cpu.

>>56154322
yeah but it's scary as shit the first time it happens, and you think you've fucked up your motherboard

the only worse feeling is when you put a cpu in for the first time and you hear that crunching noise

>>56154843
Amd is terrible trust me I've owned both.

Request. Trading PC able to support 4 monitors with loads of ram as I use a lot of charts. All components please.

What's the point of having 2400-3000+mhz RAM when most motherboards don't use it unless you overclock?

Hey guys. Currently shopping for my new computer case, and I'm having trouble deciding.
On one hand the Design Define S takes out any 4.25 drives and leaves room for maximum airflow, but I'm worried about HDD temps on the back (I have 2 HDDs and 1 SSD) not receiving airflow. Then there's the Corsair 400C which has HDDs at the bottom, under the PSU shroud. The Eclipse p400s suffers the same issue, and I'm afraid of what would happen if I were to not drop fans at the bottom to cool my HDDs. Suggestions?

EVGA GTX 1060 6 GB (non OC, one fan): 289€
Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6 GB (non OC, three fans) : 349€
Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6 GB (OC, three fans) : 379€

EVGA is going to arrive at the shop, whereas both of the tow Asus cards are in stock already. Which would you recommend me? Which is the best in terms of noise reduction and cooling? Size isn't a problem, my case contain a GPU as big as 355mm.

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Can someone tell me what this means please?

>>56157324
It tells you all the RAM speeds it supports. OC means overclocked.

>>56157358

Yes but you can buy RAM that is 3200 stock can't you?

>>56157390
Technically yes. You just shouldn't buy a RAM that goes over 3466 MHz when overclocked.

>>56157390
If you buy RAM that's rated at 3200 (for example) it will only run at 2133 when you first install it. You have to go into your BIOS and manually turn on XMP, which will overclock it to 3200 for you. Some motherboard/RAM may do the XMP thing automatically, I don't know. But anyway that's why everything over 2133 is listed as (OC) there, it's technically an overclock.

>>56157535

I see, thankyou for that.

>>56156611
>60€ for two additional fans
:DDDD

>>56158169
I think I'm going to get the EVGA.