/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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Exherbo

Funtoo

The /g/ approved distributions.

>>56100205
>I am /g/

None of my GTK3 or 2 themes work right on the latest Firefox build including the default ones. Does Firefox gtk only work with Gnome/Unity now? How do I get it to work without a DE?

>>56100205
Why Funtoo over Gentoo?

>>56100220
How long have you been using Linux to not even hear of symbolic links?

>>56100205
add
>Guix Sysem Distribution
>Sourcemage
>devuan
and you are good to go

>>56100233
Funtoo is more user friendly.

>>56100205
You're not /g/, I'm /g/.

>>56100253
>devuan
That's Debian without systemd, right? What init is it using instead?
>>56100227
>he thinks Anonymous are multiple people
reddit pls go

>>56100205
>>56100253
Well these are some nice suggestions, but what is the best distro?

>>56100205
H
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SHIT
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What's the best Linux to install on old hardware. I am looking to install a different (((Operating System))) on my old Thinkpad.

>>56100307
4.7

>>56100284
You can use several init systems as stated in the page.

>>56100299
"the one I'm using"

>>56100321
I mean Linux Operating System, Not Linux Kernel, idrc which version of that is on there

>>56100341
Install Gentoo.

>>56100307
Debian, skip the select software step after installation, install Joe's WM or i3 if you want to pretend to be a hacker.

>>56100363
Compilation of source will take too long to justify installing Gentoo Linux. Perhaps you can suggest a non-timesink OS.

>>56100341
I'd just like to interject for a momment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.

Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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I'm fucking clueless. got a feral hosting seedbox slot and they allow SSH and you can fuck around with anything you have permissions for, so I wanted to install mpd to stream music.
I compiled mpd fine but can't make it detect LAME. I compiled LAME from source as well but still it doesn't get picked up by either mpd nor ffmpeg, they still say libmp3lame is missing.

I have no idea how this stuff usually works, so I just follow their guide at https://www.feralhosting.com/faq/view?question=195

What is the best """"""""""GNU""""""""""/Linux Distro?

>>56100379
Install Slackware.

>>56100379
Actually if the computer is as old as he says it is, the boost gained from software compiled specifically for that machine would outweigh the inconvenience of having to use a different machine for the weekend.

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>>56100188
I run Arch with a custom kernel on my Dell V131. I used to use Linux a lot more than I do now but OS X is more functional as a main OS, since Nvidia's drivers are still absolute shit. This laptop is pretty comfy though. It boots in a few seconds from my cheap Samsung SSD and everything opens instantly.

>>56100401
Don't have time to read pages of documentation. I need a system that can be up and running in under 30 minutes.

>>56100393
The one I'm using.

>>56100416
You're pretty funny. I chortled slightly.

>>56100420
Install Debian.

>>56100420
Arch can be installed by a near-complete beginner in about 20 minutes, counting the time it takes to read the beginner's manual. Once you're able to boot the OS from your disk, it takes maybe two mintes to install whatever desktop or wm you want.

>>56100418
Yeah, that's because you have a SSD. It'd take a half minute to a minute on an old hard drive like every other OS. Install Fedora.

>>56100416
No it wouldn't, are you baiting? And besides, I need to have this system up and running in under 30 minutes. I simply cannot wait around for hours until all programs are finished compiling.

>>56100448
That's categorically false. Other distros have a minimal install option and the added benefit of not being Arch.

>>56100485
>and the added benefit of not being Arch
kek

>>56100383
What are you trying to do, just play mp3s?

>>56100482
Well that time is really cutting short, isn't it? If you've tried Gentoo and know for certain that the benefits do not outweigh the convenience, what are you doing asking us which distro to use?

>>56100453
Arch took maybe 10 seconds on my old laptop with one HDD for / and another for /home. I tried Fedora on that same laptop, and in addition to being the most resource-hogging *nix I've ever laid eyes on, it's a pain in the ass just to install media codecs and it's even less stable than Windows 10. Any OS that makes you add third-party repos JUST to play an mp3 or use a browser that's not total shit is broken.

>>56100485
My fiancee installed Arch on her old netbook in about 30 minutes, having almost zero experience with Linux prior to that. Granted, I was there to answer small questions but she did the whole thing on her own. You can do anything if you RTFM.

>>56100518
Installing precompiled binaries isn't an issue because I don't need to worry about using USE flags to trimp off MiB's from the total install size. It is a major inconvenience to compile large source on this low end CPU however. I have used a Gentoo derivative and dreaded almost every second of it.

>>56100482
Do some workout and be a /fit/GNU/Linux user.
Gentoo power!

>>56100540
>My fiancee
Delete this

>>56100540
>I was there to answer small questions
>but she did the whole thing on her own
One disproves the other.
Also learn to use a fucking watch. And what the word "stable" means.

>>56100540
You're broken anon. Mentally.

Anyone here used aqemu? Also, what are some basic qemu commands?

I love how toxic these threads are now. Hopefully they'll get so bad to the point where mods will have to auto sage them like Desktop threads.

>>56100595
Read the fucking manual.

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>>56100511
basically, I want to stream music from their server since my home connection is shit.
I'd point to my torrent downloads folder and get music from there so it can both stream it and seed it.
Obviously they don't allow you sudo, but you can SSH and do whatever you want in your space.
As said, mpd works but won't start because it can't find LAME encoder (no such encoder: lame). FFMPEG couldn't find it either when I tried to make a configuration.

I have no idea if I can even do this in this little space or do I really need them to install LAME for everyone.

Pic related, only encoder is wave

conf would be something like this:

music_directory                  "~/private/deluge/data"
db_file                          "~/.mpd/database"
log_file                         "~/.mpd/log"
pid_file                         "~/.mpd/pid"
state_file                       "~/.mpd/state"
playlist_directory               "~/.mpd/playlists"
#password                        "password@read,add,control,admin"
bind_to_address                  "feralhostserver"
port                             "44050"
gapless_mp3_playback             "yes"
auto_update                      "yes"

audio_output {
               type             "httpd"
               name             "Name"
               encoder          "lame"
               port             "8010"
               bitrate          "320"
               always_on        "yes"
}

replaygain                       "album"
replaygain_preamp                "0"

>>56100577
She never asked any questions related to installing Arch you dumbfuck. The questions I answered for her was shit that you could learn from using Ubuntu for a month. I assume most of /g/ has used Linux for much longer than that.

>>56100609
All you need to do is ban the Archfags. All you needed to do with the desktop threads was ban the Archfags. Archfags are the cancer killing the Linux community.

>>56100383
https://github.com/MaxKellermann/MPD/blob/master/INSTALL
Lame is not what you need.

>>56100615
pretty please?

>>56100636

man man

>>56100631
Why can't people just use their own fucking computer and be happy about it?

>>56100631

THIS

ARCH IS KILL

>>56100625
I don't understand what you are doing with lame, never seen that set up as output.

>>56100647

alias people='man man'

>>56100670
You tell me.

>>56100625
Why are you seeing encoder?

>>56100631
The issue was the weebs posting desktops with borderline SFW wallpapers. The former isn't mutually exclusive with Arch users.

>>56100647

alias wymyn= man man

>>56100548
You can make your own precompiled bins.

>>56100737
Yes. And my point is and always was I don't want to waste time doing this.

>>56100724

alias OP="man man"

So a little info on the dd command.

It does not work with Windows 7 iso's. I was unable to boot a usb drive after dd'ing a windows 7 iso.

The more you know.

what are you non-DE guys using for local image browsing?

>>56100635
not sure if I'm reading it right, but for output dependencies it still lists liblame and libvorbis. Am I supposed to be looking at input ones or what? Because the 3 main dependencies are definitely available

>>56100684
I dont know either, I just want to stream MP3s

>>56100715
what do you mean

>>56100770
Most use feh, I prefer sxiv.

>>56100767
Windows ISOs aren't hybrid images you inbred fucktard.

>>56100770
Spacefm as a file manager with sxiv for image viewer. Was using gthumb for image organizer too.

>>56100770
pqiv

>>56100786
First of all, calm down. Second of all, someone in the previous thread said that if if the ISO could be made bootable then you can use the dd command.

why do people use bitrate font?

>>56100770
pqiv and mcomix

>>56100767
Windows 7 ISO has efi executables you can literally mkfs.vfat /dev/durrmuhstick and copy the files.

>>56100876

sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/durrmuhstick
mkfs.fat 4.0 (2016-05-06)
mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/durrmuhstick: No such file or directory

>>56100776
I don't know, I've never set it up like you are trying to so maybe you are right.
Are you sure you have set $PATH correctly? Maybe you installed the wrong version or architecture?

>>56100906
Good meme.

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>>56100876
>>56100851

>>56100849
It doesn't sound so blurry when looking at.

>>56100940
f^a^m now i fell dumb
I meant whats the point of bitmap fonts

>>56100625
Change "lame" to "wave"? What's the problem here?

>>56100906
Using literally literally illiterately.
Its fun uguuu~~

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>>56100912
$PATH should be correct, everything works just fine by entering commands 'lame', 'mpd, 'ffmpeg', it's all detected.

although, what concerns me are these 2 folders that spawned here in my user home folder, 'include' and 'lib' and they both contain. Are they even supposed to be here?

the process I did was basically as they recommended,
wget, tar xf

./configure --prefix=$HOME
make
make install

>>56101001
the problem is the behavior is not normal and I want mp3

>>56101022
When you make install as a user its installed the linked libraries in $HOME instead of /usr/lib

Isn't really a problem but honestly you should be using your distributions package manager to install these things.

>>56101022
The directories are fine. Don't guess, echo $PATH

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I'm not quite getting the purpose of this. I get if you wanted to control your rPi hooked up to your speakers over SSH, but don't most operating systems have graphical MPD clients?

>>56101022
Your MPD is probably compiled without support for LAME. Your seedbox owner must have had a reason not to include MP3 support. You could either compile MPD with LAME support, or just try streaming wave.

>>56101074
/media/sdc1/<username>/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

>>56101078
>Your MPD is probably compiled without support for LAME
yea true, but when i do try to compile it with support for lame (

--enable-lame-encode

) it can't find it so I can't actually compile it

>>56101057
Fuck off finally.

>>56101119
You need to compile lame and copy libmp3lame.so into your working directory so the mpd configure script will find it.

>>56101119
Were mpd and lame compiled under the same prefix?

>>56100188
Currently running Debian 8 with kernel version 3.16. I want to update to a newer kernel version, but I'm wondering if doing that will break the graphics driver (using nvidia) because of the Linux headers.

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configure: error: Ogg Vorbis encoder: libvorbisenc not found

Well, same shit with vorbis, compiled it the same way as LAME, and can even see the file in $HOME/include/vorbis

>>56101199
yes, everything I've compiled was with --prefix=$HOME

time to install moc

>>56101231
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/lib ; C_INCLUDE_PATH=~/include ; ./configure

>>56101316
Shit that probably won't work lol need to append those variables' paths not replace them.

How do i dynamically supply a password to 7z?
LIke when it notices it has a password, scan a file full of passwords, till it returns the extract code or something

>>56101328
>>56101316
see >>56101125

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>>56101231
Time for bed I guess, if anyone has a clue, please write and I'll read it in like 3-4 hours.
Last time I tried to get mpd to stream on Windows it also ended up being a nightmare, and unsuccessful

>>56101338
grep?

>>56101371
How?
How do i tell 7z to go back through the filelist till it finds a password then start extracting?
I need to do this for over 100 archives

>>56101390
Write a script which greps the appropriate password a passes to 7z.

>>56101420
I dont think you understand.

File.txt
Contains 20+ passwords on line

100+ archives in folder, all with different passwords, extracting from basedir recursivly.

7z x -aos -p<FILE.TXT>

How?

>>56101458
grep

>>56101390
If there is one password per line, something like

while read -r password; do
    7zip --password="$password" file2open
done < passes*

I don't know.

>>56101474
and how would it be piped in?
How would 7z be told to use a password each time till it finds one that works?
grep might supply it but it wont do anything because 7z isnt told what to do

>>56101458
It's a bad idea to extract 100 archives at once, imagine some nigger zipped single files instead of a directory. Welcome to hell.

>>56101570
piping the output of one thing to something else is pretty trivial.

>>56101458
do a while loop as suggested by this guy >>56101498

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Opinions on Debian Testing vs Debian Sid/Unstable?

>>56101604
Read the Debian docs and make your own opinion.

>>56101604
Debian is a shitty pain in the ass.

>>56101603
...this isnt going to do anything.

7z x -pNIGGER1 FILE.7Z
ERROR WRONG PASSWORD
EXIT

>>56101604
>Testing
What normal people run, because Stable is fucking ancient. "Unstable" is a bit of a misnomer.

>Sid/Unstable
Debian: Arch Edition

[Unit]
Description=rTorrent
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=forking
KillMode=none
ExecStart=/usr/bin/tmux new-session -s rt -n rtorrent -d rtorrent
ExecStop=/usr/bin/bash -c "/usr/bin/tmux send-keys -t rt:rtorrent.0 C-q && while pidof rtorrent > /dev/null; do sleep 0.5; echo rtorrent still running...; done"
WorkingDirectory=%h
Restart=on-failure

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target

So I added this to systemd and I can start rtorrent using

systemctl --user start rt

and I can confirm that rtorrent starts with htop
How do I attach to the tmux session it creates? Ive tried

tmux attach -t rt

and it says "can't find session rt"

>>56101707
Normal people run Ubuntu.

>>56101645
baka desu kouhai

>>56101737
Normal people run windows.

>>56101798
Normal people use typewriters...oh wait, that also died years ago.

>>56101737
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>56101833
Why the hate on tripcoders all of a sudden?

>>56101842
it's reddit

>>56101842
>all of a sudden
how new are you?

>>56101842
>all of a sudden?
how new are you?

https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
how do i install these

>>56101871
>>56101873
Oh you have no idea.

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What distro should I switch to:
Currently running a more than 2 years old arch install, everything is still running smoothly except for the minimal breakages every couple of months, arch is fine but I want something that needs much less tuning and follow up.

I went with arch because of the rolling release model, I didn't want to reinstall every time a new distro version is released. Is there anything you would recommend for a laptop that's stable and doesn't require the same attention as arch. I would be fine with an LTS release, should I go with debian stable or it would to fucky to install on a laptop.

>>56101604
>Debian Testing
What I run on computers for normal users, including my family's computers and my desktop

>Debian Sid
What I run on my laptop

I've never had anything break on either. No, not even Sid. I just run Testing on my family's for peace of mind since they likely won't know how to solve a problem if shit does hit the fan sometime, and on my desktop also for that extra peace of mind. I run Sid on my laptop because I see it as my experimental learning piece of hardware. I use it for note taking and programming, and everything I back up to my desktop immediately via SSH anyway.

Short answer:
Testing if normal desktop user
Sid if advanced user that wants bleeding edge

Both are solid, but one obviously requires being a little bit more careful/responsible.

As long as you install apt-listbugs, you're good. And maybe subscribe to the mailing lists if you really wanna be super safe.

>>56101894

sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-yes-bitmaps.conf
sudo cp -avr bitmap/ /usr/share/fonts
fc-cache -fv

just look where you have saved the links to the bitmap font configuration

>>56101895
Think we do.

>>56101912
Debian
see >>56101932

>>56101932
is there anything like apt-listbugs on other distros like Arch, or is it a Debian / Debian-based thing only?

>>56101947
is there any way to go with a minimal install on a laptop or it will be impossible to get internet access, and a small cd with xfce for example would be a better choice?

How do I get the extended description in the apt-cache show like in Ubuntu when using Debian?

>>56102011
netinstall that includes non-free firmware for your wifi should do the trick to install Debian on wifi. during the install it asks you if you want a DE and gives you choices, among them xfce. so you don't have to worry about that

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/

assuming you have an amd64 architecture, there you go. if not, go back and look for your cpu architecture.

if you get unlucky and that iso does not include your wifi firmware, it will tell you which .deb package you need anyway. and you can load it via usb in another computer and plug it in during install when it asks you. if you don't have a usb in this unlucky scenario, then you will have to use an ethernet cable for the install and install your wifi drivers after everything is done.

9 times out of 10 though, everything should go just fine without tinkering around

>>56102011
WiFi can be annoying depending on you card.

>>56102011
also, remember: you're supposed to do the netinstall of Stable like what that link above is for. then once it is installed, you upgrade it to Testing or Sid IF you wish.

Don't use installers to directly get Testing or Unstable. Those installers are for testing the installers themselves.

what are bitmap fonts, what makes them different from the default fonts, and why would I want to use them?

>>56102054
>>56102073
thanks a lot familia

>>56102070
>WiFi can be annoying depending on you card.
Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller

>>56102100
just give that iso a go, and see if it includes your firmware out of the box. if it doesn't, it'll tell you exactly what you need so that you can download it in your regular computer, put it in an external device, and plug it in during install if you wish

Tonight's track for the thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPfHQ4MyNL8

>>56102132
>papa Sven
I never knew based techno was part of the fglt

>>56102132
Is it supposed to sound like video game music or is it just bad?

>>56102196
Someone has to educate /g/

>>56102209
>>/trash/

>>56101818
I hate windows too but it's not dead

>>56102249
Hate is a pretty strong word buddy, we're friendly here.

>>56101938
where do i put the folder

>>56102227
There is not a single good thing I could say about it. It's awful. Get used to people not liking the same music you like.

>>56102262
>macfags like it in the ass
>poo in the loos are windows shills
>linux users are fat basement dwellers

>we're friendly here

>>56102266
in /usr/share/fonts

>>56102272
;_;

>>56102306
Thank you

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>>56102350

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What the fsck? I tested GNU Emacs and it's a totally autist text editor! Why learn new CTRL+ALT+nsjdfnsjdnfsd to open a new window, move the cursor, delete the line and write "I'm stupid"? I can do this graphically.

>>56102392
Good post.

>>56102392
Upvoted.

>>56100188
I love that style of wallpaper/art or whatever. I don't know what it's called though.

>>56102437
Explain why do you think my post is like Reddit. I do not use Reddit, so I do not know how its content is like.

>emerge (2 of 414)
How long is this going to take, like a month?

>>56102713
depends on many factors anon

>>56102603
Now you know.

>>56102460
synthwave, newretrowave

>>56102824
Thank you.

Where is the install gentoo, instillation guide?

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>>56103118

>>56102415
Are you >>56102437 ?

how to install packages without a package manager?

i see something like ./configure make make install

does the pwd matter? should i cp the dir to /opt beforehand?

how to cleanly remove such installed software?

>>56103487
No.

>>56103505
Were you being sarcastic too?

>>56103499
>how to install packages without a package manager?
you can either compile it, or download the package (.deb, .rpm, ... anything), decompress it and install the files manually

>i see something like ./configure make make install

cd /path/to/source/files && ./configure && make && sudo make install

>>56100205
All

G A R B A G E

Fuck off NEET

>>56103499
>how to install packages without a package manager?
>i see something like ./configure make make install
pretty much. Install dependencies, follow build instructions.
>does the pwd matter? should i cp the dir to /opt beforehand?
No, you can do it all from wherever you want. Make install will copy files to system locations.
>how to cleanly remove such installed software?
Sometimes you don't/can't. If there is no make uninstall in the source code then it's pretty difficult.

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Where can I get a copy of xfce theme manager? I'm on debian, but seems like all the links are down.

>>56103571
http://git.suckless.org/sic/tree/Makefile
is it good?

i see uninstall but how do you do it - cd to the same dir you installed it from/ where the source is?

>>56103706
Yeah looks like you can remove it. Just keep the source after you have made it. To uninstall you cd in to the source directory and 'sudo make uninstall'.

>>56100188
just installed debian on new laptop

I have about fourty minutes linux experience

I need resources, people. Not for using the command line, but using this thing as an operating system.

Also, where do I get drivers?

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> KDE
> Runs beautiful, looks beautiful
> After about an hour (I haven't really tried to time it but it happens after a bit of use)
> Runs slow, laggy
> ctrl-alt-f2 to a tty
> ctrl-alt-f1 right back
> Runs smooth and beautiful again

Not sure why... I don't even need to log into the tty; I don't even wait for it to ask me for login information.

>>56104040
How about changing to LXDE?

>>56104081
LXDE is dead
use LXQt

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>>56104081
> LXDE

So we're clear, my hardware is more than capable of handling KDE.

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Hello, I'm back again
I'm running Ubuntu Mate 16.04 and am pretty satisfied with everything except for the fact that the power indicator stopped showing up completely a few weeks ago and now I'm stuck using this battery applet that clashes with my overall system theme quite a lot

When I log into a guest session the power indicator shows up no problem. I've been trying to fix this for ages, but havent found anything that'll work on the Ubuntu forums

>>56104119
>LXDE is dead
Can you prove it?

>>56104127
use GNOME instead
it has plenty of features, but is still relatively lightweight

>>56104160
GNOME is bad. I tried Gnome Flashback and it was simply broken!

>>56104160
hahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha
No.

>>56104153
I would install a panel that has a battery indicator if I were you

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>>56104160
>>56104179
gnome is actually badass af all the libraries they have made and contributions to the linux community but I just refuse to use their desktop environment. I use their libraries and everything gnome related besides gnome de every day

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> ballmer makes for god-tier reaction images

How can Linux even compete?

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fuck me up desu

>>56102603
you forgot to call for the reinstatement of slavery and abolition of women's rights

>>56104181
I just have "Indicator Applet Complete" added to my panel which includes the battery icon, network icon, and the volume icon

I remove, readd, and everything is there except the battery. This only started happening a few weeks ago. Before that, adding that to the panel would give all 3

>>56104127
>So we're clear, my hardware is more than capable of handling KDE.
OK, but why waste processing power? You really need GRAPHICS on your interface, or you need the programs and sites you use?

>>56102392
>>56102415
>>56102437
liked and shared

>>56104257
kek

Slackware 14.02 was just released, and I've got the previous release on my system.

I've got i3wm and I love it. What config files should I be saving when I make the switch to 14.02?

>>56104160
*hurls*

>>56100631
I honestly don't understand all the arch hate. I love arch. I used a script to install it automatically with all the packages i need. It's nice, and i know it has zero cruft

>>56104310
You should know this if you use slackware.

>>56104409
>and i know it has zero cruft
It has tons of cruft. Use useflags see how much crust there is.

>>56104409
This

Comfiest desktop experience I've ever had.

>>56104409
You can only guarantee that there is zero cruft if you picked out the packages yourself, and that you did not do. Conversely, most other distros let you install a base group then only the packages you need. Why didn't you just do that? Why Arch specifically? The AUR? What about just having packages you need in your repos already?

>>56103886
sudo apt-get install firmware-linux

look around at some of the other firmware-whatever packages too if you need something elsewhere. for manuals, maybe look at the debian reference and debian administrator handbook, then google the words/topics inside if you need further references

>>56104443
I can figure it out I just.... Unnn

Is brainfuck scheduler a meme or actually worth it?

>>56104738
Well i did pick the packages, but with a termui thing with automated installation and setup. It was useful when it came to things like installing X and my desktop, because while i could've downloaded them myself, i would've had to do all the configuration manually. Plus AUR, and knowing every package on my system and how they work together.

>>56104461
Wouldn't that depend on which packages are installed? By zero cruft i mean zero packages i don't know about

How safe is Linux from exploits? Like that thing a while ago on Windows with PDFs. Is there any more protection because of the root privileges thing? Like would it be possible to open something disguised as .ogg with a media player and have it take over your computer?

>>56104409
Most of those come from newfags that couldn't install it

>>56105069
Most of the Arch hate comes from people who are sick of some Archfaqs advertising it like it would be the holy grail and everyone who doesn't like it was just too stupid to install it.

>>56104160
> GNOME

I've tried GNOME - I've been on Fedora since I was about 14 and I had to use GNOME until I leveled up and realized I could try different DEs.

The only DE that can even compete with KDE for my heart is Cinnamon and KDE is just so beautiful I can't do it.

>>56104281
I don't really need POWAH from my computer - I'm not a big gamer (if I decide to start playing Skyrim again we'll cross that bridge when we get to it).

I prefer a good-looking functional desktop. More of a minor annoyance than a desktop-breaking thing.

>>56105113
Did you fall for those obvious "Just fucking install Arch, pleb" baits?

>>56104745
debian didn't come with sudo

>>56105253
If you don't set root password in the installer it suddenly comes with sudo.

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Any good Linux-related wallpapers?

I'm looking for one that is also about Batman.

So people will know I'm a fan of Batman and a fan of Linux.

>>56105040
It is possible.
But a lot of things work different.
Files get opened with xdg-open.
This looks at the mime type, rather than the filename.
If there is a flaw in the music player and running a malicious file through it causes some other application to run, that will most likely run with the same privileges as the music application.
It is very rare, and when someone discover something like that, there usually comes a fix before the exploit is published. But that means you have to patch your system.

>>56105040
Safer than your average jane using a windows machine.

If you've got an adversary intent on getting to you though, then they'll get you one way or another.

But luckily, the majority of us are just fine by following safe practices and running linux. Much better having more eyes on the code than not.

What are some packages you install whenever you boot up a fresh distribution? Can be utilities, games, etc. Wanna know what is reccomended. (Talking to Arch/Manjaro users mostly)

>>56105040

The only real threats are people who run unknown things as root, such as blindlessly installing things from community repositories, downloading ___'s source from some blog link instead of finding the official GitHub/SourceForge/etc.

>>56105534
The Linux Operating System

>>56105534
Why are you excluding the majority of users anon?

Anyway, dont run arch or arch derivatives, but ill give you my list anyhow.

Terminator, screen, rsync, newsbeuter, hexchat, and pass. Typically already have firefox, so thats not in the list. Might move from hexchat to a terminal irc program, but been too lazy to migrate.

>>56100230

Works on my machine(tm)

>no DE
There's that myth again.

>>56105534
0ad is a nice RTS

>>56104153

Install cbatticon, which is just a battery notification icon. You can make it use your icon theme's icon; either the symbolic icons, the standard or notification icons.

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I fixed this once before, I should have written it down because I knew I would forget.

I just installed debian testing, and my computer doesn't want to read any of my drives I plug into a USB 3.0 slot.

I don't recall having to make a big fuss out of it or something, but I for the life of me can't remember how to fix it. Some weird driver issue. I think. Suggestions?

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How can I change the default terminal emulator i3 uses? When I press Mod1+Return it opens URXVT but I want to use lxterminal. I tried changing the name of the one it should use in the config but that doesn't do anything. pic related

>>56105597

Just watched a YouTube video on it. Hell yea. Most linux games I come across are so terrible, and I'm tired of getting Jewed by Steam and their slowly becoming pay 2 win library. .

>>56105973

Change the keybind to open lxterminal instead. RTFM 101 right there (read the fucking manual)

what programming languages do you use to extend your desktop environment with shitty gimmicks like a battery monitor?
I was thinking about using qt, but C++ is the last language I ever want to touch

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This is new for me. I've used arc theme on XFCE in the past, but now for whatever reason, my applet's aren't taking the theme at all.

What the heck is the deal? is this a bug I should submit?

>>56106123
JUST

>>56106118


Python, JavaScript, Perl, hell even C. Language is but a syntax in 90% of cases. View the source code of applets for your DE. It's open source afterall. I think the best beginner projects are GUI clients. Create a GUI in Python that is simply nothing but a button that runs commands to update your system. It's how I learned. There were a lot of packages that I used that I wish had a GUI, because I'm a visual person more than text based. So I learned Java to make GUIs for them. They were very ugly, but it inspired me to learn.

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What's the best option to see and control your phone(Android) screen through Linux(Fedora) ?
Thanks

>>56106199
>newfags thinks their distro makes a difference

install gentoo

>>56100188
What's /g/s desktop environment of choice? I'm thinking plasma sounds nice, but I'm wondering if Kubuntu delays software releases the way Mint does? Also does switching your environment affect package compatibility?

>>56106233
I was just referring my distro because it can help.

>>56106250

How can it help? There's no such package that only works on 1 distro. They are al the same, besides package managers which are just different ways of automating installing the source.

>>56106039
That's what I did. I changed the original line to lxterminal, saved the config, but when I press mod+return it still opens URXVT.

>>56106238

DE's are for Windows refugees. They consume too many resources, are buggy, and always have mismatching themes. Most people who have used GNU/Linux for 1+ years use a WM such as i3, Awesome, JWM, etc. I would suggest doing the same.

>>56106301

You have to reload i3. Try i3-msg reload or i3-msg restart

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>>56101351
Me again, ended up making a ticket on the host's site and the guy installed the dependecies for me in like an hour

Seems like it compiled properly now, let's hope it works

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What's the "best" WM or DE for a virtual machine, in terms of being light on resource usage?

I have a dedicated Debian vm that needs to run a bunch of GTK and Qt applications, and I'd like to stay away from tiled wm for the sake of point-and-click simplicity.

>>56106306
So a window manager is for someone who pretty much want's nothing preinstalled and prefers to add it all manually? Assuming I don't care about a minor hit to system resources and I don't particularly want to pick out every last component in my system, what's the advantage here?

>>56106381

JWM or Openbox. JWM if you like a lot of manual configuring. Openbox if you want something that just works.

>>56106393

I know what I have on my computer. If i wanted a distro with ~1,800 packages full of bloat and things I don't even need, but can't remove because it'd delete important distro packages, I'd just use Widnows. It's why I have a NET install with a WM. I install packages from DEs, but I need the entire DE for them. I use a lot of packages from XFCE4 and LXDE. Gnome's Disk Utility, etc.

>>56106381
either >>56106396
or if you like some additional comfort like a task bar you can install LXDE which is basically Openbox with some other mildly useful stuff. it's not much more heavyweight than naked Openbox and it might feel more familiar to you than Openbox.

>>56106433

You can still the lxpanel without installing all of LXDE.

>>56106407
What is the simplest WM for someone who is way out of his depth?

>>56106484

Openbox.

I use JWM, but it requires a lot of manual configuration. It's lightweight though. I would rather switch to i3 but it doesn't play full screen games very well. Like it'll open Minecraft in a floating window but when I hit my key to make it full screen, the window will go full screen but the actual picture stays in the top left quarter. Don't know how to fix it.

>>56106407
Does a fedora come with the club, or do you have to buy it separately?

>>56106520

Stay salty senpai (nobody cares about your opinion)

>>56106542
Because your might as well use windows reply is so great.

How much longer until this thread is arch/gentoo+wm only fags?

Is it just trendy to act like you're dying for resources? Because my main laptop is an older thinkpad and it can run everything pretty damn well.

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So, against better judgement I installed a distro with a Gnome based DE (Solus), updated it and when I restarted my mouse pointer was slow as molasses and the mouse settings looked like pic related. Needless to say I'm amazed there are still people that defend Gnome.
Now, how do I fix my mouse pointer speed and disable any acceleration in the process?

>>56106587

I'd rather my 4GB of memory go to my workspace and testing environment, not a flashy muh rice DE. But then again since you don't code, why are you on /g/? And why are you on linux?

>>56106698

Install a better manager. I like lxinput.

>>56106716
Solus doesn't have that in the repos of course. Another one off my list of potential 'just werks' distros I guess. Honestly starting to think about going back to fucking Ubuntu 14.04. At least that shit didn't give me problems every single fucking day.

>>56106698
either read the xinput related manpages or type "xinput mouse speed" into your friendly neighborhood search engine.

protip: turn it into a script and run it in your .bashrc so it'll stay unfucked

>>56106751

Install Manjaro then install Octopi and Octopi-Notifier. Add Octopi-Notifier to startup. Can install just about anything between official repositories and AUR. Only thing that would be better is Debian. People who suggest Ubuntu to noobies should be exiled.

>>56106778
>Manjaro
Didn't they have some security concenrs just like Linux Mint?

>>56106778
>People who suggest Ubuntu to noobies should be exiled
I couldn't agree more. Ubuntu 16.04 has been barely usable for me, which lead me to search for a new distro. Solus and Antergos with xfce are not it either.

>>56106799

No. It's a Reddit meme and is months old.

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>>56105453

>>56106293
Ok thanks for the information, but can you answer my question?

>>56106778

I've been looking for a solid opinion on this for a while. For setting up friends/relatives who have the technical capacity of a broken calculator, is it better to go ubuntu/kubunut/mint or manjaroo?

>>56106799
They forget to renew their SSL on their homepage every year

>>56106869

Install either and hook the retards up with Sugar DE.

https://www.sugarlabs.org/

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what distributions do you guys use?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11004272
I'm not an NSA agent, I swear!

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>>56106917
No they didnt.

>>56106941
>what distributions do you guys use?
Only the best.

Is Debian testing the best non-Ubuntu Debian for a moderate newbie's desktop?

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Looks like Void is going more popular lately. Anyone here using it? Pros and cons?

>>56107026
>Void is going more popular lately.
It's just a couple of insecure hipsters and (not surprisingly) both are NEET


There is 0 (zero) reason to use void

>>56107068
>t. proud ubuntu user

>>56107081
Lmao, *buntu > 50 ft pile of trash > void
Get over it, vegan hippie

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would someone post the ss of richard stallman getting rekt by linus torvalds for saying there is no linux just by itself

>>56107117
Using GNU/Linux here. Nice attempt of samefagging

>>56107127
>samefagging
>number of posters grown by one
wat

>>56100188
no windowmaker/gworkspace love? anybody knows how to get rid of the clip (my autism is trying to make it look as close as possible to nextstep)?

>>56107117
Stallman gets salty when people say Linux instead of GNU/Linux because Linux would not survive without GNU. Linux can easily be replaced with another kernel. Linus was offended and took shots at Stallman saying he's not pro free software or anything, but anti Microsoft. He cares more about hating on propritary software than encouraging free software. And he also said that Linux has a better chance on it's own than GNU. There's no BTFO about it. Just 2 people with different opinions. No picture needed to validate your autism

>>56107298
i just need the fucking picture
i dont care which one gets it right
it was funny
your jesus got rekt and you cant deny that
and it was funny

>>56107316
You are a pretty big retard to think that the picture is real and the points it made was somewhere near valid

>>56107316

He's not my jesus. I can't stand the autistic fat son of a bitch. Take your underage idolism to Reddit

>>56107337
>>56107373
oh my shit you guys are fucking retarded

>>56107402

10/10 argument earned yourself another (You)

>>56107415
no reason to argue with someone who is blinded by its own 60 iq

What autist made it become a thing where utilities like file managers, partition makers and archivers get added to Accessories categories instead of System by default? It drives me crazy.

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>>56107117
>>56107316

Just for the record. It's a fake, made back when you were still stitting in your pants.

Additionally:
>RMS with google account
>RMS calls himself "Richard Stallman"
please

How to SSH into (almost) any website as a guest and browse it?
Can one do this as a substitute for HTTPS when it isn't available, to have encrypted communications with the web server?

>>56107582
didn't know about this version

>>56107597
How's you first day on /g/?

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>>56107298
>Linux would not survive without GNU
(You)

>>56107721
Hes correct. There's other things that can work, like BSD

>>56107721
How's MINIX coming along?

>>56100188

>Linux thread, OP image made in Photoshop

>>56107732
He's correct if you ignore the fact that the software that can replace GNU entirely on Linux already exists, sure.
You know, if you ignore reality and substitute it with your own, I guess.

Linux doesn't need GNU to survive. It never has needed GNU to survive, and it never will need GNU to survive.

>>56107764
OP here: Nope.

>>56107765
see >>56107752

>>56106123

That has nothing to do with your GTK theme. They're icons and affected by your icon theme. Who would have thought?

>>56107765
Well, Linux needed GNU from the start. Sure today there are many more projects, and some of them can be put together to replace the GNU project parts, but that doesn't change the fact that, at the beginning (1984), the only free system was the GNU system, which was used as base in the 90s to make Linux usable and is still being used on 99% of all distros.

>>56107196
just hide it behind the dock senpai

>>56107848
What's even the point of removing GNU from your system, other than being a fragile faggot who couldn't stand an interjection?
>implying some people just simply dislike freedom
Nah...

>>56107863
Same reason we have vegans

Anyone here uses BTRFS?
I'm getting an SSD for my Thinkpad and thought I'll redo the setup on my disk instead of just cloning. Currently I have simple setup with a few ext4 partitions. For my new disk I'm thinking of having single LUKS container and inside of it maybe LVM and partitions inside of it or one instead of it with either Ext4 or BTRFS.

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Reminder that http://gmic.eu/ exists.
- Cli image processing (like ImageMagick)
- GIMP plugin w/ more than 450 ebin filters.
Not sure if underrated but it's an amazing utility. Pic related, random filter.

>>56100540
>My fiancee installed Arch on her old netbook in about 30 minutes
no, she just had her boyfriend tyrone do it for her over ssh

>>56107196
>>56107862
Even better, edit the configuration file so it has DisableClip = YES; added somewhere in the file.
https://windowmaker.org/chap4.php

>>56104896
You can look at the dependencies in any distro.

>>56107595
Anyone?

I just edited /etc/hostname for the first time. Will I need to reboot before the new hostname shows up in my terminal sessions?

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Can you recommend me a lightweight distro that's noob-friendly (something that will run Firefox) but still as little resource demanding as possible?

>>56108812
puppy linux
xubunu

>>56108812
>Can you recommend me a lightweight distro
>recommend me
You aren't a lightweight distro.

>>56109030
Go away tripfag.

>>56108812
bumsenlabs (out-of-the-box debian w/ openbox)

->
-> >>56109106
->

>>56107966
thanks anon, that's pretty cool!

>>56109087
This is for friendly discussion. First warning.

>>56109350
Tripfags not welcome. First middlefinger.

>>56106513
that's weird mate, you can always tell i3 that the minecrat window is full screen on start and on a certain workspace. Are you using compton?

>>56106778
Wouldn't Antergos be better than Manjaro with Octopi? you can use pamac-manager and also install shit from the AUR

>>56106799
replaced Xubuntu with Antergos. So far I'm happy with it, it wasn't hard to set up everything back up and the AUR is a fucking godsend. Now I get why some people love Arch so much.