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Boot with UEFI or BIOS for a ZFS root?
BIOS with GRUB seems simpler but I wouldn't mind getting rid of it.
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>>56109246
stop complicating your life.
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>>56109279
Because enabling one kernel option for efi stub support is so fucking hard.

GRUB isn't needed on EFI systems.
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>>56109354
fuck off finally. this isn't reddit. post anonymously or fuck off, faggot.
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>>56109246
Until someone tells me any good reason to use UEFI, I say stick with MBR and use grub

>>56109354
Post a guide/resource about it instead of being a smug elitist weeaboo tripcuck.
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I'm balls deep in fucknig shit /g/ and I need your fucking help. This is serious. Where is a stream for The Walking Dead Season 6????!!@@.12>
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>>56109397
>Where is a stream for The Walking Dead Season 6?
>>>/r/

Also stop wasting your time on such a shittily made show
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>>56109419

Found it without your help. Got to watch my waifu
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>>56109392
>elitest
lol ok kid
efibootmgr is in the screenshot, i specifically told you the kernel option "EFI STUB" and pretty much the only thing else you would need to know is that UEFI requires a vfat filesystem.

Might be that you are just a fucking retard, its easier than GRUB.
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>>56109106
Thread theme:
http://www.gnu.org/music/FreeSWSong.ogg
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So what happened to popcorn time? Is there no ppa for it these days?
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Today's track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTN6cGmH2yM

Also, for the guy looking a GNU/Linux related wallpaper, look close.
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>>56109550
I really love this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjg50-nvc
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>>56109550
>http://www.gnu.org/music/FreeSWSong.ogg
notbad
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Reposting.

Whenever I apply arc theme to XFCE, my controls in the applet get fucked up. The sliders are gone, and in the wifi menu in particular, things no longer highlight on mouseover. Instead, it just looks like a list with icons you click on, and it looks like shit.

Anybody ever experienced a problem with this? I've used arc + xfce on a xubuntu machine in the past, but debian testing just fights me at every corner.

by the way I don't mean the icons for wifi. Some retard thought he was being snarky by calling me out on my icon theme as the problem, but I can assure you that is NOT the issue.
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>>56109870
Wifi-menu looks like this
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Is there a way to generate a list of packages installed with pacman (and maybe packages from AUR) for easy reinstallation on another machine?
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>>56109891
Theme is fucking with gtk widget alignment.
Its a shitty theme. Edit it yourself to fix it.
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>>56109891
It seems like you have a broken GTK+3 theme. They deprecated some stuff in the theming engine in the same major version (absolutely unacceptable), which broke many themes. Try different themes or see if there is an updated version of your current one.
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>>56109550
>>56109106
>http://www.gnu.org/music/FreeSWSong.ogg
>7/8 rhythm
Already more interesting than 99% of pop trash
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>>56109390
>finally
The word you're looking for is 'already'
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>>56109959
>http://www.gnu.org/music/FreeSWSong.ogg
I hope that's Stallman singing
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>>56109984
No, Stallman's singing it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw
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>>56109923
Fucking wicked bummer. I'll edit myself maybe one of these days or Just find another.

>>56109937
Wait, really? Are you saying something in gtk was depreciated, or gtk-xfce-engine (so in xfce 4.12)

Either way, I can believe that both of them fucked it up.
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>want to try gentoo
>load up qemu
>launch
> takes 5 minutes to get out of init
>given a gui login
>click login
>spend 5 minutes waiting for it to load everything.
>holy shit this is so bloated what the fuck


>load arch in qemu
>1 minute after launch im in a root liveiso environment ready to go

What the fuck man
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>>56109920
Yes
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>>56109967
Perhaps he is not from USA, in which case the word 'already' would actually be completely incorrect.
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>>56110098
>try gentoo
>5mins for init
>gui login
If you don't see why this makes no sense you're not ready for gentoo.
What ever you downloaded and did it wasn't gentoo.
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>>56110169
http://bouncer.gentoo.org/fetch/gentoo-20160704-livedvd/amd64/
http://gentoo.osuosl.org//releases/amd64/20160704/livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/releases/amd64/20160704/livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso.DIGESTS.sig
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i was putting a keybinding in the openbox rc.xml and made an error forgot a tag and when i fixed it openbox had changed colors, for example terminal was now black and background grey which is better than it being white

i really like that, but what happened, do i have to do anything now?
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>>56110208
fucking retard
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>>56109920
Which packages are installed should already be some kind of configuration file. Perhaps you can copy that over?
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>>56110230
So what secret site is there for gentoo then?
gentoo.org is a scam site i presume?
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>>56110309
You are comparing a purposely big and bloated live disk to a minimal shell. Install gentoo the regular way until you are at the same stage as the arch iso is and then compare.
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>>56109920

>man pacman
>find the flag which lists all packages
>redirect the output (stdout) with your shell to a file

Since it's a doggy-dog world, you could care less about spending a few minutes reading man pages.
Wa la
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>>56110229

Your window manager (Openbox) has nothing to do with your terminal emulator's color scheme.
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>>56110229
did you maybe bind your terminal key to another terminal emulator than before?
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>>56109937
Oh okay, I see what the deal is now. Had to crawl through a couple of git repositories to see it was a GTK issue.

Holy shit, what are the gtk devs thinking as of late? Stuff like this legitimately just frustrates me because this isn't the first time a gtk update broke something stupid.
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>>56110383
>could care less
You may want to spend a few minutes reading a grammar man page :^)
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What are some /fglt/ approved VPNs?

Are these a good place to start?

https://www.privacytools.io/#vpn

https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-anonymous-review-160220/
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>>56110549
Not only is it a GTK issue, it is a consciously created issue. I don't know why the devs are being such assholes.
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>>56110581
Try this https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-comparison-chart/
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>>56110597
probably cos they dont give a shit about the five manchildren who think desktop themes are cool
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>>56110641
>Devs don't care about their users cuz they're manchildren xddd
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>>56110597
>>56110549

How is it a GTK issue if you're using a broken theme that's not keeping up with the underlying core component that it's a theme for?
EIther use the default theme which always works (Adwaita) or find another theme which is keeping up with development.

>>56110597

> it is a consciously created issue
[citation needed]
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I want to learn how to use emacs.
Which one do I download?
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>>56110597
Honestly GTK 3.0 has been a big fat mess. Features that people have been wanted have gone ignored for years, but they have no problem fucking with shit that isn't necessary. It boggles my mind.

>>56110641
Shittiest bait I've ever read on this board. I'm ashamed to be replying.

But you're not wrong in that they clearly don't care what goes on outside of their bubble.

I got arc going though, I just had to build and make install from the git itself.
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>>56110565

I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.
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>>56110702

>Features that people have been wanted have gone ignored for years
Name some of those features.
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>>56110684
GUI because it looks nicer and because Emacs has a built-in terminal.
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>>56109550
Look, another thing openBSD does better than GNU.
http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
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>>56110672
>[citation needed]
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735211
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>>56110707
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>>56110383
pacman -Qeq seems to do just the trick
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>>56110722
muh thumbnails
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http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/linux-bug-leaves-1-4-billion-android-users-vulnerable-to-hijacking-attacks/
>An estimated 80 percent of Android phones contain a recently discovered vulnerability that allows attackers to terminate connections and, if the connections aren't encrypted, inject malicious code or content into the parties' communications, researchers from mobile security firm Lookout said Monday.
>The vulnerability makes it possible for anyone with an Internet connection to determine whether any two parties are communicating over a long-lived transport control protocol connection, such as those that serve Web mail, news feeds, or direct messages. In the event the connections aren't encrypted, attackers can then inject malicious code or content into the traffic. Even when the connection is encrypted, the attacker may still be able to determine a channel exists and terminate it. The vulnerability is classified as CVE-2016-5696.
>Linux
>secure
Where were you when Linux lost it's chance at becoming a reputable kernel? Are you regretting buying that lagdroid phone? You still have a chance to go with OpenBSD.
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Anyone here uses BTRFS?
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Why cant debian mount dvd movies by itself and I have to type some very obscure terminal command myself?
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>>56110790
to install from a list;
while read i; do pacman -S --noconfirm $i; done < list.txt

(installs one thing at a time to avoid potential too-many-arguments on long lists)
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>>56111458
Because debian is pants.
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>>56101710
Nobody?
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Thoughts on Void Linux?

Going to try it tonight, looks pretty cool.
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>>56111643
"looks"?
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>>56111458
Yeah what the other anon said. Debian is arguably a lot more work than arch to get to a functional place if you're coming from Windows.

Look into udisks-glue
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So am I missing a package on debian that handles screen locks?

Whenever my computer goes to sleep, or I press "lock screen" it shits the bed and I have to reboot it.

Might be something that xfce4 didn't include.
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>>56111768
Thanks mate
Folks here told me to go with debian because ubuntu is botnet
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>>56112163
Do:
echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state

that directly sends a suspend to ram command to kernel skipping your DE, if it still poops itself then you know it's not your xfce4 but down to how your kernel and hardware interacts with each other
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>>56112232
>Folks here told me to go with debian because ubuntu is botnet
You're a gullible fool then. I'm surprised you didn't install gentoo.
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if I have one DE and install another, am I going to get annoying doubling programs etc.?
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>>56109106
what's the source of the pic?
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>>56112456
Okay well that narrows it down somewhat, so thanks. Seems the kernel is fine.

So, I got curious and tried running
 light-locker-command -l 
manually. Instead of going to light-locker like it SHOULD, it turns off my main monitor, and just displays a blinking line on my other monitor. But no ttl, and I can't get into one by ctrl alt F(X)ing.

So I installed gnome-screensaver and tried running
 gnome-screensaver-command -l 
and same thing.

Kind of weird, anybody know what's causing this, or where the problem lies? It's nothing SUPER pressing, but it's frustrating.
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>>56112790
chapter 11
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>>56112825
of what?
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>>56112845
i think you're retarded. google it ffs
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>>56112878
i wouldn't have asked if google had returned acceptable answers
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>>56112905
it actually does, you can find the source with a simple google!
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>>56112905
ah nevermind found it :)
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Gentoo is love. Gentoo is life.
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How do I change xmonad's stupid multihead defaults? The screens should have their own windows and be inside the same workspace at all times.
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>>56110754

Yes, it's fully switched to CSS-like theming which is easier for theme creators.

>whaaa i can't use a 5 year old theme whaaaa
Update it yourself.
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>>56112878
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.
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Total n00b here. I want to make Fedora Linux my main OS(i can run Qemu here for muh games, right?), but first i´m learning all i can about it in a VM, however, it works too laggy. Should i switch from Oracle VM? (i'm in W7 with a I5 2320 and i gave it 3 Gb of ram power).
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>>56113106
>Fedora
Found your problem
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>>56113044
>strawmanning
Minor version updates should never break compatibility, retard
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>>56113162

What is his problem? Can you back it up with reasonable facts or are you just parroting memes and stock responses you picked up on here to appear smart?
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>>56113106
Why not just boot it from a USB? It will run smoother.
>>56113182
Ignore posts like that.
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>>56113182
Fedrora is not meant to be a main OS, total noob. It's an experimentation distro, it's not stable. VM performance should be the least of your concerns
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>>56113263

> is not meant to be a main OS
What's a "main OS"?

>experimentation distro
What makes it an experimentation distro?

>it's not stable
How is it not stable? What is your definition of stable? I have a feeling that it's something as stupid as using older versions of software which coincide with Debian's stable branch.
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>>56111643
Trash
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>>56112878
Get out this is a "friendly" Linux thread
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>>56113292
>What's a "main OS"?
You tell me >>56113106

>What makes it an experimentation distro?
"RHEL's test subject" how does that sound?

>How is it not stable?
Stable packages are moved to RHEL while Fedora gets new packages to test for RHEL
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>>56113263
I'm running it as my main OS right now and I never had a single problem.
It even recognized that fucking wacom digitizer out of the box, which really surprised me.
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I wonder how most open-source developers make their livelihood.

If I were rich, I would feel absolutely fine with working for free. I wouldn't need money anymore, so I just work toward the utopia of free-software to enrich the lives of my fellow man.

However, if you're still wage-slaving life and spend all of your free time working for free, you're a cuck. This is time you could've been developing closed-source pay software that could free you from the wage-slave life.
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Is the init war truly over? Has systemd become as much an inherent part of Linux as the kernel itself and the GNU coreutils? Are systemd-free distros an irrelevant deadend fringe in 2016 and beyond?
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>>56113326

I'm not the guy who wrote "main OS".

>"RHEL's test subject" how does that sound?
Highly subjective and relative.

>Stable packages are moved to RHEL while Fedora gets new packages to test for RHEL
And? People are using the latest released versions of programs on Windows and Mac OS and those are considered stable with no one complaining. How does running the latest released (from upstream) version on Linux make it unstable?
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>>56113380
>systemd-free distros an irrelevant deadend fringe in 2016 and beyond?
Yes, for a good reason

Now we want a standardized package format like snaps
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>>56113400
>Highly subjective and relative.
Are you actually denying the well established fact that Fedora is a lab rat for RHEL?

>How does running the latest released (from upstream) version on Linux make it unstable?
Same reason why RHEL doesn't have the latest packages in their latest stable brunch
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>>56109106
I've decided to switch to MATE in place of xfce because I just think it does everything xfce can do but much better. I'm having a small issue with system colors though. It doesn't seem to be registering the theme default colors. The colors all work fine and set themselves, but for one reason or the other, wants no business with detecting them. I can easily set them myself, although unlike on my archtop with MATE, I have to logout and log in to see changes. I also can't be specific with the color, because the dialog isn't the same.

I imagine I'm just missing a few packages or something. Anyone know what it is?
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>>56113531
Isn't the problem numix only? I don't think all the themes can be modified through that panel
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>>56113353
If you want to know how to make money with open source software, check out Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Free Hardware shops, Free Software support solutions, etc.

But I guess the main problem is somewhere else. If you want to make money, there are better, more ethical jobs out there than things like selling child porn or proprietary software.
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OPs pic reminded me of this software, Lilypond,
for creating music notation from plaintext code
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>>56113646
Pretty cool, thanks for sharing.
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>>56113581
I would be inclined to agree, but it's a universal problem even for default themes. So unless it has something to do with GTK (Which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest)
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Stupid question here.

I've been using Void linux and for some reason can't get lightdm to work. I installed the lightdm and lightdm-gtk3-greeter package and symlinked the services(dbus and lightdm) so Runit should start them at boot, but for some reason lightdm is never started.

Doing `sv status dbus` yields the following:
run: dbus: (pid 557) 163s

Doing `sv status lightdm` yields the following:
down: lightdm: 1s, normally up, want up


Manually starting the lightdm service doesn't seem to help either.

Anybody got any clue as to what I'm doing wrong here?
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>be >>56108812
>check out >>56108999 and >>56109101
>they all have higher system requirements than regular Debian
Well, maybe except for Puppy Linux, but I need something bootable. What's the deal with 'lightweight' distros?
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how come my cursor doesn't disappear when watching fullscreen videos like youtube? Arch with cinnamon
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>>56113296
Please explain
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>>56113854
No non-free driver support
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MPV question

The option
--vo=opengl:background="#FF0000"
works, but doesn't if I put it in mpv.conf.

When I run mpv, it outputs
Terminating '"' missing for 'background'
Error parsing option vo (option could not be parsed)
/home/terablast/.config/mpv/mpv.conf:2: setting option vo='opengl:background="' failed.


Is there anyway to make it work?
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>>56113705
>>56113531

How do you expect such a simple tool to change the complex GTK themes? Take a loot at the CSS files and see in how many places colors are defined.
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>>56113976

Yes, by reading the error messages and seeing what you did wrong.
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>>56113725
if your previous dm disabled?
also try sudo lightdm -d in the tty shell to see if there's errors
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>>56113769
>but I need something bootable.
What does that mean? Every distro is bootable.
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>>56113996
But there is no missing quote!

The line I've wrote is
vo=opengl:background="#FF0000"


which should be correct according to all documentation
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>>56114076
variable="value"
vo="opengl:background=#FF0000"
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>>56113769

How do they have higher system requirements than regular Debian? How can the same package have higher requirements on different distributions? "Lightweight" distributions are a joke, it's a buzzphrase. It means shit.
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>>56114090
Well shit, thanks.

That does seem to make more sense.
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>>56113980
Because I've used the same tools before, that's all. I just find it odd that Debian would be some weird no-man's land while everything on arch just werks.

I'm not really opposed to doing it all myself but it is kind of a pain in the ass if I'm going to have to relog every time.

Chalk up another reason I should just use arch on all my machines I guess.
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>>56114062
Yeah, I meant bootable in a non-live-CD kinda way.
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Just installed Arch and installed Gnome and i3. How do I set i3 to boot by default instead of Gnome's wm?
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>>56113193
I need to have some software running at all times in my machine, so i can't log off. Anyway, the choppiness isn't that bad.


>>56113263
hes not even me, but thanks for the answer, i will check other distros in the future
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>>56114169
Arch is for advanced users, start over with something newcomer friendly.
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>>56114169
You read the wiki.
Why on earth did you install gnome if you want i3? What a load of shit you've installed for no reason.
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>>56114169
Read the manpage of i3.
Read the manpage of your DM.
Read the Arch Wiki entry for xinit.
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>>56114169
Vanilla i3 is trash, get i3-gaps. You start i3 with your xinit. If you have a DE, you may need to create a xsession file or whatever your DE is using. Check the archwiki, srsly.
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>>56114261
>i3 gaps
nice meme
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>>56114270
Enjoy your ugly desktop.
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>>56114279
If you're using i3 there's no point even seeing you desktop.
>wm for rice
I feel sorry that you have such tedious life.
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>>56114261

>Vanilla i3 is trash, get i3-gaps
Yes, get a gimped version of a window manager which wastes space when saving space is pretty much the core principle of the window manager itself.

>you start i3 with your xinit
His display manager can start his i3 session as well.

>If you have a DE, you may need to create a xsession file or whatever your DE is using
What are you talking about? That doesn't make sense.

Why do people recommend and post ridiculous advice on here?
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The FS song is supposed to be in 7/8? I always thought Stallman just sang without any sense of rhythm.
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>>56114318
0/10 bait, try harder
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>>56113444
Red Hat sponsor it, you retard. The actual distribution is community-driven. Love to know what OS you use...
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>>56114348
>I can't think of a response to logic, I'll shitpost again instead
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>>56114187
I've used Mint and Elementary before plus I want to learn Arch.
>>56114221
I can simply purge Gnome you know..
>>56114261
What are the advantages of i3 gaps?
How will I set it as default if I removed Gnome?
>>56114318
What are the disadvantages of i3 gaps?
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>>56114425
>I can simply purge Gnome you know..
Why would you in the first place?
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>>56114425

How did you install Arch without knowing how to repeat the same steps and choose new "defaults"?
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>>56114437
Antergos
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>>56114387
- Everyone has his own opinio on gaps, don't force yours on others.
- You start i3 with your xinitrc.
- If you use a DE, you do it with a session, this is how DE's manage different sessions; with as session file.
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>>56114445
No, you are still incorrect dear.
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>>56114433
I was trying to figure Arch out and I had to install a DE to do so plus I knew that i3 can be installed on top of Gnome.

>>56114437
Systemctl enable and thus?
>>56114444
What?
>>56114445
Can you elaborate further? How do I set Gnome to always bring i3?
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>>56114469
>still
Not even that guy, also tell me how I'm wrong then, wise man.
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>>56109550
it sounds exactly like something I'd expect Stallman to jam out to
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>gnome
>i3-gaps
>i3

normalfags everywhere, install bspwm you cucks
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>>56114495
You don't set which WM to use with session files.
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>>56114480
Why did you have to install a DE? Why not just install i3 straight away, the wiki has clear steps to do this.
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>>56114517
Do you even know how DMs work faggot
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>>56114515
What are the advantages of bspwm?
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How well would a drawing tablet work with GNU + Linux? I don't know anything about how they work (yes I'm doing my own research, I'm wondering if anyone here has any immediate answers).

I want to buy one to work with graphic design.

Pic related - Scott Adams working with his Wacom Cintiq.
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>>56114528
It seems you don't hun.
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>>56114532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA

>inb4 the other fag complains about gaps
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>>56114527
At first I installed i3 but I didn't know how to start it so I grabbed Gnome
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>>56113769
They're all really lightweight though. You can always just run Debian with XFCE/LxDE/LxQT or even Cinnamon if you want to, too.

I recommend XUbuntu for a beginner regardless. There's also Linux Lite, which is obviously lightweight, but I didn't like it much. Try it out if you want.
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>mfw I resized my GNU partition because I was running out of space
>mfw I fucked up my grub install
>mfw I do everything the gparted manual told me to do when that happens and I'm still greeted by a grub commandline when I try to boot
time to fix this shit somehow, I guess.
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>>56114444

Antergos isn't Arch.

>>56114445

>- You start i3 with your xinitrc.
Your display manager can start it as well.

>- If you use a DE, you do it with a session, this is how DE's manage different sessions; with as session file.
LightDM uses "freedesktop desktop entry"-like .desktop files to manage available sessions.
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>>56114604
>Linux Lite
Never seen someone using it, only someone shilling it.
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>>56114613
Should have made it a linux partition
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>>56113353
1. They do it for fun/ego.
2. If you're on salary (as many programmers are), working more won't get you more money.
3. Most programmers are pretty well paid and don't really have ambitions to develop their own product. It's more comfy that way.
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>>56114624
Probably because it's redundant when XUbuntu exists.

It's marketed as light and easy to use/for beginners, but it's only slightly lighter than XUbuntu while losing user-friendliness. It's got some handy tools to install popular software and drivers and all that, but then so does XUbuntu.
If for some reason you wanted XUbuntu but didn't *actually* want XUbuntu, I'd recommend that.
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Redshift stopped working for no reason. I even tried using f.lux for Ubuntu which worked until it stopped. WTF? How could something just stop working like that? I don't even know how this shit works. Can someone make this easier to get?
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>>56114714
man redshift
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>>56114714
Is the process running?
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>>56109106
I'm using LXDE and when I select a bunch of archives I cannot rename them at once. How can I do that?
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>>56114769
No, I didn't say I didn't say I didn't know how to use it, I said I didn't know how it works. Like how does it literally work?
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>tooth hurts from fraud dentist putting in bullshit fillings into teeth that never hurt before
>had to drive in downtown Chicago today

But hey, at least my bspwm Manjaro install works perfectly
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>>56114987
You learnt your lesson
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>>56115005
Never trust a dentist? Yeah, I definitely learned my lesson.

I had the same dentist for years and years while growing up that was wonderful. He retired and I had to find someone else and got stuck with this fraud that convinced me to get shit I didn't needed and just caused me a lot of pain. Maybe it's just American dentists.
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>>56114824
is that possible in any graphical environment?
I'd use a script if there are many files
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>>56115031
That's what happens when you use manjaro.
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>>56115045
Thunar and dolphin can.
zsh can very easily, and I assume bash too.
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>>56114613 here.
I give up trying to unfuck this by hand.
If I copy my /bin /home /lib /lib64 and /usr directories to a fresh install of fedora(which I was running before I fucked up grub) will I be back to the same system again, or did I miss something crucial?
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>>56115031
>Never trust a dentist?
cheap* dentist
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>>56115101
$500 for two god damn filling replacements. That isn't cheap.

I'm the guy who's moving to China next week. I'm going to laugh my ass off if a Chinese dentist does a better job than an American one.
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>>56115087
Did you make and reinstall grub config again?
Just copy /home, the rest could fuck things up. You could chroot in and get a list of installed files and reinstall from the list, would be safer.
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>>56115121
>I'm going to laugh my ass off if a Chinese dentist does a better job than an American one.
Why wouldn't he, you racist cunt? If this is how you think you will get some shocks in China, or anywhere else.
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>>56115132
I don't even know how to make a grub config.
During the installation, fedora took over the whole process, and now I'm just following these steps here:
http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-fix-operating-system-boot-problems
starting at the grub2 section
grub-install succeeds with warnings and after the reboot I'm thrown to the grub commandline.

Does anyone know a way to repair this out of the top of their heads? Otherwise I'll reinstall everything now.
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>>56115237
A command line where you cn log in? You could try startx or reconfigure your display manager from there. If you can log in then grub is fine.
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what file manager is this?
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>>56114002
This is a fresh install, I haven't had a different display manager.

Tried that, and I get no output whatsoever.

Thanks for your suggestions though.
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>>56113071
I have seen a great number of poorly photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake.
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>>56115270
no, not a shell, but a grub cli.
when I try to boot the linux partition it tells me to load the kernel first, which seems very very wrong.
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>>56115331
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.
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>>56115373
> such as the gimp

Is this GNU's attempt at meme marketing? Hey guys, our image manipulation project is a sex slave for some horny hillbillies in Los Angeles!
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I yanked my windows hard drive and install ubuntu 16.04 on a second hard drive. Now I plugged my windows drive in and want grub to see my windows drive so it offers me the boot menu every time with both operating systems as options.

How do I do this with current grub? Just using the grub update command did not do it.
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I've installed 3 different kernels for testing. How can I list the included moduls for each kernel? lsmod only returns currently available modules.
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>>56115863
Nevermind, got it. (lib/modules/)
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>>56115159
Because China isn't known for its health care. It's significantly cheaper than American health as well.
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>>56115575

GNU image manipulation program.
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>>56116177
America isn't known for it's healthcare either unless you count turning its citizens' well-being in to a capitalistic insurance scam.
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>>56115345
I found the problem.
The gparted manual said that if I don't know wether I have a seperate /boot partition then I usually don't.
That's a lie if I've ever seen one. From there on fixing the rest was a breeze.
My file system is still at the original 30GB though, so all of this seems like a colossal waste of time. Do I have to mount those 30 additional GB I added to the partition first?
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>>56116322
What was the original issue?
Filesystem?
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>>56116366
see my first post and the following ones here:
>>56114613

tl;dr: my 30GB OS partition was getting too small, so I increased its size.
I had to move the partition a bit though, so grub got fucked.
Now grub is unfucked, the partition is the size I want and it shows as such in gparted.

The filesystem doesn't care though, yet and I don't know what to do here.
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What is wrong with my laptop and web browsers? Whenever I use Chrome/Chromium or Firefox/Firefox alternative, it consumes like 1.2GB of memory with just 4chan and YouTube open. Meanwhile I see screenshot threads of people using same browser with 8 tabs open, and their entire system usage isn't even 1.2GB.

Are there any lightweight browsers that actually support flash sites like pornsites, Beam, WorldStar, etc.? Whenever I try these lightweight browsers and try to play a video on 90% of websites, it brings up a download prompt instead of playing them. I've enabled javascript, installed ___flash, etc.
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>>56115373

Why do people focus more on hating proprietary software than promoting free software? It's become nothing but a huge hate organization thanks to that fat Stallman autist.
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>>56116695
RAM is there to be used and is used in proportion to how much you have.
Flash is dead.
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In plasma 5 which font setting changes the default panel font size?
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>>56114554
This seems awfully mouse-reliant.
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>>56116756

Ask your mom what Google is
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>>56116847
kill yourself
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>>56116816
It's a tiling wm so you obviously don't need to use the mouse.
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>>56115287
anyone??? can someone pls tell me what program this is. is this Nautilus? it doesn't look like Win10...
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>Boot up linux
>It's fedora live
>Apperently "top tier distro"
>Wifi won't work, non free driver needed
>Connect ethernet cable
>Download a song
>Can't play audio file

Can't make this shit up

0/10 bullshit OS
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>>56117125
What did you expect from the autismo hat distro? Fedora is not usable
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>>56117125
>why won't proprietary things work in a distro designed to be free
0/10 bullshit post
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>>56117207
>Fedora
>Free
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>>56117149
What would be a usable alternative?
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>>56117287
I suggest you look at Ubuntu MATE
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>>56117223
>hang on mom, i haven't finished shitposting
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https://www.gnu.org/music/markushaist-free-software-song.ogg
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>>56117287
lol at Mint security
delete this pic anon, here and on your harddrive
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>>56117287
I'd try kali linux. Has the functionality of debian but looks nicer, is easier to install, and comes with firmware, meaning you don't need to use ethernet to download packages to get wifi to work. kek.
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>>56112804
try slock from suckless
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>>56117370
top kek
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>>56117336
edora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully. The policy requires that most software and all fonts be available under a free license, but makes an exception for certain kinds of nonfree firmware. Unfortunately, the decision to allow that firmware in the policy keeps Fedora from meeting the free system distribution guidelines.
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>>56114554

bspWM is trash. It can't even scale full screen applications. Use i3 or Awesome like a competent human being.
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>>56117430
>It can't even scale full screen applications

What did you mean by this?
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>>56117406
according to an irrelevant fat old man
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>>56117430
Nah man, I like bspwm's functionality. i3 is too limited and awesome too complicated. Also what doe you mean by scaling fullscreen?
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>>56117484
You're running his code every day.
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>>56117507
>his

I wasn't aware that he still works on the software he wrote decades ago.
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>>56117484
>Wants to be free
>RMS is irrelevant
lol look at the mental gymnast
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>>56117507
Am I?
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>>56117529
Who said I want to be Free? Shame you can't shit post with some coherency.
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Why has nobody made Deadian OS yet? It's basically just Debian with a Rest In Peace wallpaper and everything is encrypted with fuckyouNSA1 being the password.
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>>56117525
He doesn't but you're still running it.
>>56117530
He contributed code to a lot of different GNU projects.
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>>56117529
I whole-heartedly agree, but allow me to play devils advocate for a moment. For all intents and purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a dime-a-dozen, true virtues are a blessing in disguise. We often put our false morality on a pedastal like a bunch of prima donnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granted. So I ask of you to muster up all the strength you can because it is a dog eat dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and even though you are having a field day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sixth sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blind eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero tolerance when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around goes around, and when supply and demand fails, you will be the first to go. Mark my words, when you get down to brass tacks, it doesn't take rocket science to kill two birds with one stone. It's clear who wears the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through trial and error but I swear on my mother's maiden name that when you put the pedal to the metal you will pass with flying colours like it's a piece of cake.
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>>56117559
yeah man ls
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>>56117541
See >>56117207

>inb4 i-i'm not him now
Fuck off
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>>56117559

Show me the code that he contributed and if it's still in use today
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stallman is not a philosophically pure person. he follows his ideals when convenient, and ignores them or slightly alters them when the conflict isn't worth it.

stallman is an egoist in denial, afraid of admitting that he just wants some fucking source code instead of a world where he has to rely on other people because he knows he wouldn't get it that way.

his system has some practical merits but his attempts at creating moral justifications are completely pathetic and nonsensical. how low do you have to be to have to make up bullshit "oughts" when you can just say "it would be fucking better"?
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>>56117584
If you are using GNU you gotta be thankful to RMS
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>>56117584
Hint: Linus is compiling Linux with it.
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>>56117603
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>>56117582
Why would I shitpost to a shitpost I just made? I don't use fedora but i know why mp3 and wifi might not work.
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I fucked myself trying to make a bootable USB.

Not new to linux or anything, but instead of using unetbootin I tried the dd way (found on slackware's admittedly outdated wiki):

> isohybrid slackware64-14.2-install-dvd.iso
> dd if=slackware64-14.2-install-dvd.iso of=/dev/sdd

Now fdisk -l does not show the drive, neither does df.

I tried:

> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc; sync

to rewrite the drive with zeros, but:

> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1

returns, obviously:

> /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory

Fuck. How do I fix this.
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>>56118029
Use Gparted.
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>>56118029
Post lsblk
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>>56117603
> If you are using GNU you gotta blame RMS.

ftfy
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Anyone install OpenSuse Leap recently? Trying to boot the install on my T430 and it hangs on "Starting wicked" (the network manager). Pissing me the fuck off, I tried the net install and the full image and both hang on this shit.
>>
How do I make emacs not look so ugly?
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>>56115779
Use grub-install
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>>56118067
They're in different drives now, and I fucked up with two:

sdb 8:16 1 3.8G 0 disk
sdc 8:32 1 3.7G 0 disk
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>>56118095
http://emacs.sexy/
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I want to by a new laptop and while I'm at it, I want to make sure that I can run a libre distro on it. Is there a site where I can compare if a specific piece of hardware is supported? Or is there even a list of models?
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>>56118124
boot a liveusb and check
>>
Use Google. If it has Intel and Realtek, chances are good. Search your laptop model + linux on Google. Also read what these assholes wrote on wiki.installgentoo.com
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>>56118285
What do you mean? I'm trying to make a live usb.
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>>56118029
>Now fdisk -l does not show the drive, neither does df.
df only shows mounted filesystems.

>>56118124
but if your usb flash drive is /dev/sdc, something like
dd if=slackware64-14.2-install-dvd.iso of=/dev/sdc status=progress && sync

should work.

If it is a hybrid image, lsblk should show two partitions on sdc, I think. You can mount it if you want, to see there are files on there.
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Can some kind anon post the magnet for manjaro cinnamon? Sourceforge is somehow blocked
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>>56118047
To do what?
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>>56118437
>sync
why
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>>56118450
>>56118450
It's blocked because it is insecure. Add an exception to you adblocker.
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>>56118498
After the GIMP fuckery, I'm wondering why people even still use sourcefourge.
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>>56118476
>>56118476
>>56118047

Results from scan:


Guessed primary partition table:
Primary partition(1)
type: 000(0x00)(unused)
size: 0mb #s(0) s(0-0)
chs: (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)d (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)r

Primary partition(2)
type: 000(0x00)(unused)
size: 0mb #s(0) s(0-0)
chs: (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)d (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)r

Primary partition(3)
type: 000(0x00)(unused)
size: 0mb #s(0) s(0-0)
chs: (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)d (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)r

Primary partition(4)
type: 000(0x00)(unused)
size: 0mb #s(0) s(0-0)
chs: (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)d (0/0/0)-(0/0/0)r


As predicted...
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>>56118666
sourceforge has new owners
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>>56110749
>>56111320
>BSD cucks
At least Stallman or Linus won't hack my shit. Enjoy your autism OS
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>>56118817
>Project leader hacks his dev's router
MY SIDES
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>>56118285
>>56118067
>>56118047
>>56118029

Thanks my dudes. I ended up just using cfdisk to creat a parition/reformat the drives. They're valid now.

How would I create a bootable drive without using unetbootin?
>>56118711
>>56118437
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>>56118938
dd is really the only thing needed.
Just point it to the block device
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>>56118966
dd only works for some images
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>>56119012
I have yet to find any image that it dosent work with.
Unless your distro is retarded(manjango) and cat properly tar a file system
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>>56119025
I should reword it to 'works for most'. knoppix and systemrescuecd don't work as easy as others.
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I plan on getting antergros until I get a separate hard drive to install Arch on, Is antergos good?
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>>56119113
wat
>>
Is running squid on an ssd suicide?
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>>56119120
I dont want to screw up a dual boot trying to install arch when I can just install antergos linux.
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>>56119172
And what is preventing you from installing a rch in place of where you were going to install that shit distro?
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>>56109590
Holy shit thanks for this. I love stallman and daft punk
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>>56119187
Because I am afraid I will mess up and delete my windows partition, (school work on there)
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>>56119310
Deleted Windows partitions are the only good thing to come from Arch.
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>>56115373
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>56119348
kek good one, but still I need windows for school work and plus I dont feel like torrenting a windows os to put in virtual machine while using arch.
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>>56117430
>>56117487
I went from awesome-i3-bspwm, and bspwm is great functionally, but has issues with normal windows and struggles with applications that require floating windows. I'm on way-cooler now, which is a rust-based tiling WM for wayland.
>>
Sauce on image. Looking for the book you found this.
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I'm trying to get PCIE passthrough working with this VM.
It displays through the passed-through GPU, but it takes a very long time to boot, thought it does eventually.
Also somehow it has a network connection even though I didn't specify one. coincidentally it's running windows 10
qemu-system-x86_64 \
-enable-kvm \
-smp sockets=1,cores=4,threads=1 \
-m 8192 \
-name Windows \
-cpu host,kvm=off \
-bios /usr/share/qemu/bios.bin \
-vga none \
-device ich9-usb-uhci3,id=uhci \
-device vfio-pci,host=05:00.0,multifunction=on,x-vga=on \
-device vfio-pci,host=05:00.1 \
-drive media=cdrom,readonly,file=Windows8.1Pro.iso \
-drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/w8.qcow2,id=disk,format=qcow2 \
-usbdevice host:413c:2105 \
-usbdevice host:046d:c401 \
-monitor stdio \
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>>56119511
also USB passthrough seems to fail and send commands through to the host
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>>56119525
libusb: error [_open_sysfs_attr] open /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-3.1/bConfigurationValue failed ret=-1 errno=2

related
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> Arch Linux Laptop
> deprecated in favor of new one
> keeping it but no intentions of actively maintaining it

If I were to set a script to run pacman -syu every night to keep it up-to-date, would it still run if the laptop were closed and suspended?

Also, how would I make such a script? I have 0% experience with shell scripting.
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>>56119511
https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/
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>>56120105
>reddit
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>>56109550
>my actual face when
It's still neat. They have dedication.
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>>56120127
Fine sit here and don't get any help its only your time being wasted
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>>56120019
no, your computer doesn't do anything while in suspend, though if you want you should be able to set it up so you can close the lid and have it keep running like normal. I don't know if a cron job can wake from suspend to run, but cron is depreciated anyways in favor of whatever fuckery systemd is up to
>>
>>56120105
You have to go back.
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Been pushing off installing linux on my desktop because I can't direct connect to a router in my current living situation, and my only option for wifi is a netgear usb dongle that isn't supported on windows. I decided to say fuck it and dualboot Xubuntu today, and just decided I'd compile the reverse engineered drivers from source and transfer all downloaded files over via flash drive.

Well it turns out that this dongle saves wifi information that's configured on windows to some sort of hard drive, so every network I connected to on Windows can still be connected to on Linux. I didn't have to do anything; it just worked. Linux is a dream come true, shit.
>>
Tricky question, is there any way to force dialogs to open as independent windows?
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Is flash safe on Linux? Specifically, using Firefox.

Is the flash in Chromium any better or worse?

I just need flash for one thing, but I hate having it enabled all the time.
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>>56120598
>Is flash safe on Linux?
No. Flash isn't safe anywhere.
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>>56120598
>Flash
>safe
>anywhere

Nope.
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>>56113380
>Is the init war truly over?
No.
>Has systemd become as much an inherent part of Linux as the kernel itself and the GNU coreutils?
No.
>Are systemd-free distros an irrelevant deadend fringe in 2016 and beyond?
No.

>>56113409
No.
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>>56113380
>GNU coreutils
>inherent
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Why is /g/entoo a meme here? It's legitimately one of the best distributions.
>>
>>56120976
ikr? Just look at how good their website and wiki is maintained.
>>
>>56120976
Some idiots recommend it to windows refugees. There the memery.
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>>56120843
Is "no" the only word you know?
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>>56113380
No
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is the AMDGPU-PRO drivers available on arch, or would i have to use ubuntu for them?

just know that amd released it for ubuntu only, just don't know if they found their way to the aur
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Hi /fglt/,
The other day I posted here looking for a way to stream my music from my 1st PC (laptop, running GNU/Linux) to my other PC (also running GNU/Linux), and play that music on the 2nd PC.
Someone recommended MPD, and I installed and configured it, only then to discover that it's not what I was looking for.
http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/What_MPD_Is_and_Is_Not
>MPD Is Not:
> A server that serves music to clients, clients are just remote controls.
And that's what I'm looking for; a server that serves music.
Any ideas?
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>>56114542
many drawing tablets are well-supported directly by linux (as usual, ensure support before buying if you intend to use one in linux)
also check out Krita (drawing software)
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>>56121052
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amdgpu-pro/
A simple search revealed this ^
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>>56121081
cool thanks for searching for me anon, was hoping to also get some first hand accounts, but i'll just install it myself and check it out. no harm in trying that.
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>>56121009
No
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>>56121142
Are you Khal Drogo?
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>>56121151
No.
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>>56121166
K.
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My address bar is set to search through Google, but sometimes if I only use a single keyword, it will try to go to a website (like pies.org). Is there a setting I can change so it never does this? It's so weird.

I guess the other solution is just never use the address bar for that, it's more of a habit than anything.
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>>56121142
>>56121166
stop
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>>56121316
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>>56121346
Yes.
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>>56121306
>google
B O T N E T
O
T
N
E
T
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>>56121068
bump
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File: 67509426.jpg (116KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]
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>>56121353
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>>56120019
you can literary just update it once a year and it will* be fine

*unless your laptop does not like something in a new kernel


>>56116695
i doubt ff uses over a gigabyte just for a few tabs + yt unless you're using a shit ton of addons

it's usually ~200mb for with a bunch of tabs

see about:memory
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>>56109106
How can I change my lockscreen?

I'm using KDE on Manjaro and I want i3lock as my default lock screen but I cant find a way to have my computer automatically lock using it.
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