/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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>>56092504
>criminals
>on MY board
I'm calling the police

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>>56092612
pst hey kid, wanna buy some keycaps

What is more worth my money and less of a meme? Filco mejestouch2 or hhkb? Why doesn't filco use mx clears?

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>>56092656
well the HHKB is definitely the superior meme

do you like topre or mx
filcos come in red brown blue and black
i don't think they see enough of a demand for clears

>>56092702
Yeah I know what switches they have an I have like 5 fucking keyboards but I need a new one and this time it's going to be a meme. So which meme should I get, never tried topre, willing to try though, mx clears and blues are my favorite switches thus far in my money wasting career.

>>56092718
get the hhkb then
it's something new

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Im buying a KBParadise v60 with gateron browns. Am I doing it right? Is there a better alternative? I'm a bit restricted when it comes to money.
>pic related

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>>56092718
Obviously the HHKB

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pic related is my dream board, i would give anything to find a cheaper chink version of that

where can I buy keycaps and what kind

my old keyboard isn't working anymore and I'm used to MX blacks, I was originally looking for clears on a ducky shine 5 or 6 but I'm pulling the trigger on a topre typeheaven which is the only semi-serious keyboard currently available right now

the board is the same as the higher end realforce right, but the keycaps are the cheaper ABS ones, I'd really like to know what to buy to replace them because this is for some serious usage, I type way above 200wpm (thx to piano) and I'm starting to get into programming. Thanks anon

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I got the RK9000V2 with brown switches at ~50% off, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by Rosewill for the second time.

>wanting tenkeyless and 70% boards
why

>>56093575
Because I'm not an accountant, and don't need an attached numpad taking up space.
Plus TKLs are supreme for hand placement when using kb+mouse controls

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>>56092504
Only one industrial?

>>56093277
Ganss is literally a Filco clone, and I think they have white ones (but white ones are unfortunately backlit)
The Black ones are almost identical to Filcos tho

>>56093671

If you're not an accountant, you better be one instead of hiring someone to do the counting for you.

>I know how to count
>numpads are for accountants
>words are more meaningful than numbers
>words aren't numbers
>words are more relevant in my usage
>numbers take space
>shortcuts save time
>time is more than a number

ffs taking this too far

>>56093575
not everyone is a cubicle warrior

>>56093356

can someone answer please, I can drop $1k on a keyboard but it just won't go thru customs and I'd rather have my import tax paid in advance. please don't be too elitist, keyboards are just tools there's no reason to be douches about their exclusivity in some gent club.

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>>56093781
Who are you quoting?

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>>56093825

do you know that the real meaning of > is implying and not a quote

or are you just some fucking newfag

>>56093971
i'm embarrassed for you

>>56094027

don't be, think of yourself. very kind though, I understand the concern with respect and civility yet don't carry that weight on your shoulders, do that for me. there's nothing to be so anal about this, you're in the wrong context to be embarassed for someone unless your internalize all of your feelings and think everything is you, is that grandiosity? I'm not sure. anyway don't feel embarassed for me and I don't mean to offend anyone. cheers

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>>56093696
pssht
do i look like i waste money?

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>>56093971
I'm a newfag obviously

what's this whole mechanical keyboard meme about anyway

why not just use a rubber dome

Best non-cherry switches for a workplace environment?

>>56094300
cause muh feels

>>56094437
anyswitch with o-rings and put some shelf liner in your keyboard and maybe even Zeal's new Z clips instead of O-rings.

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hello

>>56094289
yes

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>>56094461
but feels are all subjective anyway how can a piece of plastic feel better than another piece of plastic anyway

it's just a keyboard man

>>56094300

funfact 4chan originally had two boards, anime and (anime) random

mech keyboards aren't a meme because they're interfaces between physical actuation and digital registration, in a sense it's a buffer where a mechanical key can negotiate the force of the intended movement and the negotiation of the action towards a digital realm. anything which is an interface is a fair investment; I'll take the example of ground and body, basically gravity, interfaces as shoes, tires, beds that negotiate the interaction between our physical body and a gravitational force in this instance, smoothen out the edge to integrate as seamlessly as possible the fusion of worlds. why post such an obvious troll question on this daily thread? don't mind answering it though, not like my post is gospel

>>56094627
damn that looks awkward to type on

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>>56094636
but anon a keyboard for five bucks can also send keycodes to your computer

>>56094643
I thought the same before trying it. Actually works quite well, the bezel doesn't get in the way in any noticeable manner.

>>56094758

Money gives you the freedom to become who you truly are. You're not a keyboard right? Tools helped us throughout the evolution of humanity.

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>>56094924
>You're not a keyboard right?
I identify as one

>>56094943

fair enough, keyboards are truly underrated and relegated. Whenever you take languages or vocabulary, you have intonation or accentuation that serve some nuance purpose to give color in communication, I'm just drawing this parallel with the beauty of keyboards that still don't relay a depth of sensible communication instead of a hard coded one dimensional binary one, it's very basic yet profound at the same time. Especially now that we're entering the realm of big data and the internet of things where deep intelligence plays a role, the interface of the user is still limited... When you consider movement and the translation of data towards human concepts of logic and application, such an instrument serves too many purposes and usages as a standard when in fact it's really a great interface in every sense

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>>56095020

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Is there a list of 60% mech keyboard manufacturers?

>>56092819
Get it with Gateron Blacks. Have had mine for a month and I love mine so far.

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>>56096940
Forgot pic

>>56096993
>>56096940
I can't really find any blacks and I want to try tactile keys so I'm going with browns. I was just asking if a keyboard like poker II was a better alternative but I think I'm going with the V60 after seeing your sexy keyboard. Where did you get those keycaps BTW?

>>56097457
bro Browns aren't tactile in the way you think they are
they're closer to linear than anything else
the common explanation is reds with dirt in them
ps those are just white blanks you can get gateron blanks for like $30-40 on mechanicalkeyboards.com

i just got myself a btc 5100c .

>>56097457
Gateron blacks guy here. They are Originative thick PBT blanks. They feel dope with the smoothness of Blacks

>>56096762
>>56096993
nice reddit meme space bar

>Budget
110€
>Location (continent at least)
Germany
>Preferred switch type
I guess MX Brown or something similar, this will be my first mechanical keyboard and I don't know anyone who owns one to test them out.
>Layout
ISO, it's the common type in Germany and I am used to it.
>Form factor
100% with media keys
>Backlight
Preferable
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft Sidewinder X4, I like it.

I looked a bit around and found the Logitech G610 for 80€, is this a good deal?

>>56097971
:^)))))))

Hi /mkg/
I'm still on a rubber dome, is this a step up, or should I not even bother?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ajazz-Geek-AK33-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-White-blue-switch-Black-Switch-Black/32676642219.html?smToken=e0d045214e584e7a9b84e732854db8e9&smSign=00qJu10XGty3YT2JlLJIYQ%3D%3D

>>56092278
Forgot the edition 2/10

opinion on MechanicalEagle?

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thoughts on the new gmk plum?

(geekhack) index.php?topic=83969

>>56100352
imo ugly as fucking FUCK and also
>falling for the abs meme
>falling for the gmk meme
i'll take thick pbt from our gateron overlords any day thanks.

I don't understand why reds are "the gamers favorite" when with browns you can feel when you've pushed the key down and at the same time have less clicky.

As somebody that plays games I'd like to know if I've pushed a key down enough for it to register. But maybe that's just me.

>>56101084
I think it started because the gaming crowd bottoms out when playing usually.

got a used hhkb pro 2 without printed keycaps for really cheap, how hard is it to adjust to the different layout coming from a traditional full-sized keyboard?

>>56094493
>>56096762
>>56096993
>Reddit spacebars
You have to go back

>>56101568
give it 2 weeks at most (but i hope for your sake it doesn't take that long)

>>56094943
so is the point of rewiring a keyboard being able to load your own firmware and save weight?

So what's a great keyboard?

I have a G15 right now. Before you go ballistic, I got this ages ago and it's about time I replaced it and did it right.
So what do I use my keyboard for? Programming, and video games.

Which means, the small keyboards you've got pictures of look amazing, but I can't use 'em.

What's the definitive keyboard?

>>56101666
Look guys, I made the same joke TWICE because no one laughed the first time! xD

>>56097737
>mechanicalkeyboards for something other than their keyboards
W E W
E
W

>>56102280
>le samefag XD
fuck off

>>56102369
>LOL I got caught! Fuck off!

>>56092278
Is the CM NovaTouch any good?

>>56102812
It's good, but for the price you need to get it up to the level of a Realforce, you would have spent less money on a Realforce. If custom keycaps are important to you, get a Novatouch.

>>56102903
>Realforce
Eurofag here, most recommendations would need a import and that's too much hassle for me

I also want a very simple looking keyboard without too much branding

>>56093781
Wew getting told really sends you into an autistic spergout.
How about you learn to use the num row that's right above your fingers, instead of buying a keyboard with 2 fucking sets of numbers

>>56099465
Just trying to play it safe. Sometimes I wake up early enough to make a new thread for my general on /vg/, just happened to noticed /mkg/ fell off and made one this morning. I was gonna put something like "I love the smell of solder in the morning edition", but idk if that'd go over too well.

>>56101666
Damn, Satan. I honestly don't see the need to flip the spacebar. I've tried it and it feels a bit weird.

>>56103656
If the barebones Novatouch is available in your country, I would recommend getting that shipped to you and buying a set of PBT keycaps to put on it.

>>56092278
Total /mkg/ noob here. Is the HHKB considered good for its price?

>>56101666
Wait, why the fuck are they upside-down? It just looks retarded as shit.

I just want something simple. 80$ at most.

Murrican

I'm used to 104 keys so I guess that.

I guess brown switches. Those seem alright from what I can tell. I like the idea of having some kind of feedback and ease of press and not being loud.

Im searching for an affordable mechanic with cherry blues.

Most of the shit on amazon is full of leds and childish things. I mean I am a gamer, but this marketing is obnoxious as fuck.
I just want a simple minimalist keyboard that is reliable. I live in central america so price is really a concern, I cant pay more than 80 bucks. I found the k83 gigabyte and it looks right up my alley. Gigabyte makes fine gpus so I guess the keyboards must be good too right? I wanted the wasd v2 but i cant afford that much so the gigabyte is the one Im looking for.
Anybody has experience with it?

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>>56103909
Yes

who /elbowpain/ here

>>56104501
The fuck are you doing?

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Using the Novatouch TKL keyboard and loving it so far
My one issue is that one month in and already some of the keycaps are fading, what's a good alternative that looks similar (and lasts longer)

>>56104589
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-set/doubleshot-pbt-104-key-cherry-mx-keycap-set-black-slate.html

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Did I done good?

>>56104779
No.

>>56104811
AUD

>>56092278
I have the keyboard in OP's picture, did I do good at buying this one?

>>56104779
There's no price

But yeah IMO. CMs are great for the money. It baffles me why people buy gaymer corsair/razer/meme shit when CMs are available.

>>56093253
>bern
>toy with ussr red star

commie bitch

Just bought a white ducky one TKL with mx greens, best mech kb I've owned. Previous ones were majestouch 2/ducky mini with reds and a leopold 850 with browns. The layout is a bit different with a smaller left shift and return keys, but it's easy enough to get used to.

Typing on greens is actually more intuitive than I thought it would be. I still bottom out more often than not, but it's better for someone like me who hammers the keys that they seem to be able to take it.

I'm not sure how long it will take me to get used to the media key placement, but it's pretty neat.

>>56106149
Oh I paid 160 AU for it. The only place I could find a white one was ebay.

>>56093825
this is a thread for mechanical keyboards

get your dirty rubber domes out of here

>>56106169
>muh exclusive keyboard club
>>>GeekHack

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>>56106285

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>>56106145
The Bern sticker actually has nothing to do with Bernie and the "toy" is a phone stand from xiaomi. The updated version of their mascot has the company logo there where the commie star is on mine.

I do have this commie mug though

Any cheap-ass Mechanical chink keyboards without backlight around?

I'm trying to find a normal office styled keyboard but everything looks like something which should belongs on a carnaval .

>>56106314
What are you trying to prove here?

>>56106330
this.

i have my eye on the gigabyte k83 but nobody has commented on it.

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>>56106169
But anon, any keyboard that requires you to press down a key is "mechanical"

Or what's your definition of a mechanical keyboard?

>>56098017
CM Storm QF, Ducky Zero, maybe Corsair. Mindfactory is probably the best place to look.

Also found a neat looking Lioncast LK20 thing on amazon.de, maybe that's worth a look. Don't know anything about it myself, but it seems okay.

>>56106085
The corsair stuff has a nice industrial design. CM looks cheap as fuck.

>>56106355
>"Mechanical-switch keyboards use separate complete switches underneath every key. Each switch is composed of a base, a spring, and a stem. Depending on the shape of the stem, such keyboards have varying actuation and travel distance. Switches also come in three variants, linear with consistent resistance, and tactile with a non-audible bump or with an audible click. Depending on the resistance of the spring, the key requires different amounts of pressure to actuate. Mechanical keyboards allow for the removal and replacement of keycaps."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_technology#Mechanical-switch_keyboard

Just got my g710 and when I press ctrl and 2 it only registers the ctrl. Why is that I thought the keyboard had anti-ghosting

>>56107739
You're kidding, right?

>>56104054
MagicForce, hombre.

>>56108316
Congratulations, you just excluded model Ms from mechanical keyboards.

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>>56106169
>>56106314
>>56108316
cry some more

>>56107739
manchild gamer spotted

>>56104351
Cool, thinking about getting one later this year.

>>56108502
no snowflakes bud sorry

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No one cared who I was until I flipped the spacebar.

>>56109391
There's a whole community called Reddit just for you bud, go get some more attention there.

>>56109457
>rotates one key 180 degrees
Y-you're just REDDIT! G-go back!

>>56109391
and they still don't, it's just a boring keyboard with a flipped key

>>56093356
>>56093819
Check the OP, there's lots of information in the pastebins.

>>56100352
Looks okay, but would get old quick. The purple really isn't nice.

>>56104501
>>56106145
>>56106169
>>56106285
>>56107739
lol fuck off

>>56108645
I use a pok3r though.

>>56108435
No

>>56109805
Fuck off yourself.

>>56106169
>>56106314
>>56108316
>capacitive switches aren't mechanical
I'm a fucking n00b and even I took 10 seconds to google what Topre switches are. Pathetic.

>>56109981
>Liking corsair
>Not a manchild

opinions on keytronic keyboards?

>>56093696
whats the tkl model m called and how much did it set you back?

>>56111164
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/original-ibm-industrial-space-saving-keyboard-part-1395682/

Budget: $150USD
Switch type: Blue>Black
Layout: ANSI
Form factor: 100%
Backlight: not needed but nice

>>56111403
Just looking for a Blue or Black keyed keyboard that has some macro keys on the right. Will be my first Mech Keyboard and if possible would like the keyboard itself to be lighter colors, (Blue or White) though that is not needed. What would be a good keyboard to get looking for suggestions.

>>56092642
what a comfy font

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>>56110793
>Not acknowledging that this is the pinnacle of design.
Prove me wrong faggot. Pro tip: you can't/

new to mechanical keyboards so sorry for asking this dumb question, but are all keycaps for mechanical keyboards the same? So I can customize my keycaps and not worry about them not "fitting".

>>56111954
Most keyboards should have standard key sizes. You should be fine, for the most part.

>>56111933
It's not that nice. The aluminim isn't great quality, the LEDs have been proven to die easily, and it screams gamer, given how the gaming peripheral industry panders to that kind of crap. Also, those keycaps.

And that's just acknowledging the design-related aspects of their products.

I'd expected better from someone who owns a pok3r. I bet you use the caps that came with it.

>>56111933
wew

>>56109981
No, I can definitely tell you're kidding.

>>56112223
We are talking looks here. Aluminum quality doesn't impact looks. LED quality doesn't impact looks. You discredit the entire product because of who it's marketed towards. The quality of the keycaps is also a thing that is not visible. Keep in mind I'm arguing as to why people buy this instead of CM keyboards, I'm not trying to convince you they are of higher quality. We are talking exclusively about looks.

And i use the miami caps :^)

>>56112229
Nice me.me

>>56112445
>Aluminum quality doesn't impact looks.
Yeah, it does.
>LED quality doesn't impact looks.
Yeah, it does.
>You discredit the entire product because of who it's marketed towards.
Read what I wrote, retard, instead of extrapolating.

>>56112483
How does aluminum quality show in promo shots or straight out of the box? How does LED quality show in promo shots or straight out of the box?

>>56093253
>that keyless keyboard
thought it was a neat music production controller, full of knobs and a slider there where's naturally the space

shattered dreems

>>56112445
It looks like shit, hombre.

>>56112506
Industrial design involves its real-world usage being a central factor to its design philosophies. It's pretty clear you have no clue what industrial design is, with comments that exclude core philosophies such as "...show in promo shots or straight out of the box...".

Anyway, it's pretty clear on the aluminium front when you get your hands on the thing, even more so after some use. And the LED one is pretty simple, too. It looks nice if it's on, it looks crap if it's off. The later is quite prominent with owners of the board. My friend had to RMA his after a week because of it, with many other users reporting issues and having to do the same on Corsair's forums, and online elsewhere. Doesn't look very good when the LEDs don't work.

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>>56111933

Well i haven't gotten any (You)'s that bring forth how the CM gear looks better than the Corsair stuff. Only memes, some good some bad, and people thundering against Corsair quality.
I've stirred up a minor shitstorm, which i didn't intend to do, so I wont go any further.

t. K70, Quickfire, G19 and Pok3r owner.

>>56112730
Bollocks

>>56112730
I owned a K70 before my Pok3r too, the caps and bottom case were trash in comparison. PCB also had more flex, but the looks were the biggest difference IMO.

I got it because it was only half-decent board with blues in-store, but there's a huge difference in quality.

>>56100352
so pretty link?

love the colors.

>>56108442
>MagicForce

shits not available man.

corsair strafe full vs gigabyte k83 blue.

Come on guys help me out here. Corsair looks like shit but has good reviews, gigabyte looks cool but has no reviews.

>>56112952
huh? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AXN24AC
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Sale-Magicforce-Smart-68-Keys-White-Backlit-Antighosting-USB-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Alu-Alloy-Cherry/32601968873.html

>>56112986
Does it have to be those two?

I was looking for the full sized one in black. Sorry for not specifying.

>>56113021
or a similar one at that price range and style. (full sized, cherry blues, black, ansi)

>>56113026
Gonna have to up your price range for genuine Cherry in full-sized, only the Rosewill is less than that and they aren't great.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DK-Ducky-2087s2-87-Layout-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Blue-Backlight-Backlit-LED-KBTtalking-Switches-Black-Blue/32350572418.html

>>56113062
Whoops wrong link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-ducky-2108S-S2-Blue-Backlit-NK-Rollover-ABS-Double-Shot-Keycaps-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical/32699195976.html

>>56113062
why are the rosewills and gigabyte not great? they do have legit blue cherries i think.

>>56113121
Cheap caps and quality control, plus the cables come off when you look at them wrong. Don't know of any that ship to central America, either.

No idea about Gigabytes. I'd get a Gateron Magicforce off Aliexpress if I were you. They're white only, but 88 bux.

>>56113169
i can ship to florida and have it sent here. Thanks for the advice

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc21-mechanical-numpad?mode=guest_open

anyone getting this?
looks like a decent numpad. dont really care for leds but the comments say that it outputs numpad numbers and stuff so thats nice

>>56113202
It looks alright but what switches do they have as options and what stabilizers do they use?

>>56098312
I'll let you know after a month or two, when mine comes in.

>>56103921
>looks retarded as shit
That's why.

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>>56113202
>his numpad doesn't less tiredness and enable first typing

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Should I get one?

>>56113529
chinkshit chiclet keyboard

>>56113383
doesnt say what stabs it uses but it has cherry black, blue, brown and reds but they are +$7 and also gat blue, brown clear, green and reds for no addition price
im going to wait till like the last day before buying it and seeing if anyone else says anymore about it
but it looks cool to me so far

>>56113464
nice marketing vomit, tool

Rate my keyboard timeline:

1) Corsair K95 (Cherry Red MX) - Cut my teeth with this one as a hand-me down from work. Used briefly at home, now swap it in when my nephew wants to pound away at Stepmania
2) Ducky Shine 4 (Cherry MX Blue) - Used briefly at home, daily driver at work. Has WoB Skull Wars keycaps, soon to be replaced by Hana DSA.
3) Varmilo VA87MR (Gateron Blue) - Favorite keyboard so far, was in use for some time before I started streaming. Now semi-retired waiting for Danger Zone or Skull Squadron keycap sets.
4) Noppoo Choc Mini (Gateron Brown) - Daily driver at home, convenient for mouse room and quiet enough to stream with. Not a fan of tactile bumps though.
5) Cherry G80-1800 (Cherry MX Black default) Purely for collector purposes. Sometimes swap with my Ducky if I need to be in a long phone call.
6) Logitech K400 Plus (lel) - What I take with me into meetings and presentations.

Is the hhkb lite2 black worth getting?

I wanted to get an hhkb, but they don't have arrow keys, so I looked for the japanese hhkb and it is 335USD what the heck.

>>56114178
Not really, the lite 2 uses a membrane and fujitsu rubber domes.

The keyboard you're looking for is the HHKB Pro 2 JP

>>56113881
>cherry
>cherry
>cherry clone
>cherry clone
>cherry

Shit

€69 Gigabyte K83
€80 Cherry MX-Board 3.0
€79 Gigabyte Aivia Osmium
€90 Ducky One

What do you guys recommend?

Cherry red switches btw

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Anyone else have one of these beauties

>>56114363
Ducky One, or cherry mx board 3.0 if ten bucks is that important to you.

Don't even consider the others

>>56113881
how much was the g80-1800
i really wanna get one just to add to my collection

>>56092278
>>>/mu/

>>56114363
>€90 Ducky One
Where did you find it for that?

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>>56111954
Check the enter key. If it's like a shift key it's probably ANSI, if it's fat and takes up multiple rows it's probably ISO. Some keyboards have special snow flake bottom rows, and most key sets have standard ones.

>>56114729
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3NH8450

that's where I bought it. i dont think you get a choice of color even though it shows it. you'll probably get white. the caps are nice though.

>>56109518
Puss alert

>>56114407
Just threw up a bit

I'm thinking about getting the SS 6GV2, but I'm quite unsure because of the price (around 80€). I've been looking several cheaper keyboards, but they're all ANSI, and I need ISO. I've never used any mechanical keyboard before, so that may be why I'm on the fence.

>>56114949
https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/page.html?articleId=1248788&channel_code=40&s2m_product_id=NTZUZA45&utm_source=tweakers.net

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>>56115084
"dickless"

>>56115795
I think that picture was referring to model Ms and such without a super key at all

>>56114407
who are you on soulseek? ant_sunrise reportin gin for duty niggga

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>>56115822
i've just bound my right control to be a windows key

>>56100352
sauce link company etc?

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>>56115965
seriously man

reread what you're replying to, maybe eventually you'll figure it out

Do you dudes have any links to some tenkeyless/60% keyboards in a Japanese layout? I know most Japanese just use an IEM but I switched to Arch and can't be bothered to figure out how to set that up. Plus if anyone sees it they can instantly see that I am a very interesting guy with a sophisticated interest in the art culture and language of a foreign country.

I like blues, but greens would be pretty cool.

>>56116117
>IEM
IME I mean

>>56116117
Why did you install Arch then if you're not willing to put in the effort?

Are mechanical keyboards better than, say, a logitech keyboard? Do they have longer lifetimes?

>>56116208
I have free time, not free effort.

>>56116117
You'll need IME regardless though.
Also, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mozc

But if you must, https://www.amazon.co.jp/
Filco and HHKB are there for sure.

>>56116459
Thanks. I was trying to do uim w/ anthy but that was quickly becoming a hassle because of deleted/outdated packages and such.

>>56114292
what's wrong with cherry/gateron?

>>56116093
Well any idea on the model and where to get just that keyboard?No just the oclors but actual mk

>>56116950
that's a render of a generic keyboard

most keyboards look exactly like that, just look up "Back TKL mechanical keyboards"

>>56116984
ah okay thanks. sorry don't know the MK brands much .

>>56094289
yes

>>56117090
I'm proud of you anon

I'm thinking about getting one of the Vortex doubleshot PBT keysets. I've been hearing about quality issues but can anyone here speak personally?

>>56117343
i've been using them for 7-8 months now, they're alright.

>>56115084
i need a dickless one as its great for 3d applications

>all these tenkeyless abominations

>>56116888
not him but cherry is garbage
gateron is slightly better than cherry
topre is where its at

>>56118375
nerd

>>56116888
Nothing, he's just being an idiot.
How is the Varmilo? Is it true that they ping a lot?

>>56104054
Look for something with Gateron, or save a bit and get a Ducky One (or see if mechanicalkeyboards.com has any discounts/warehouse finds that fit you).

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>>56117343
The caps are fine but their customer support blows ape dicks
The number row will only light with the symbols, because the numbers are on the bottom while the LEDs are on the top half of the cap
They sent me two Ts and no Ys, which u can live with desu
It's suck more if they were in different rows

i can get a logitech G610 Orion for 60€ instead of the usual 140€.
i can even pick between the mx red or mx brown switches.
or i could get a G810 orion spectrum with roamer-g switches. for 90€ instad of 180€.

never used roamer-g switches.
im leaning towards the G610 with mx red switches.

should i go for it?

>>56119186
Go for it, if you like them. Just be sure to try them first. Also, keep in mind that it's near impossible to find decent keycaps to replace the ones that come with them.
Personally, I think they are ugly as hell and I wouldn't buy them.

>>56119606
the new G610s use standard keycaps.
the roamer-g however are some sort of logitech exclusive thing.

>>56119186
id go with the mx red switches for the G610 its a decent keyboard.

>>56119642
You're right, sorry.
>>56119186
Still, I'd look for something less tacky. But I hate how RGB lighting looks in general.
If it's your thing, go for it, but try them first.
The 610 is the better buy, since it comes with cherry (meaning that it's more customizable) and has simple backlighting. Also, if I remember correctly, these don't have a replaceable cable, so don't yank them.

What is the appeal of detachable cables?

>reading the logical increments guide
>half of the keyboards are out of stock and/or discontinued
Is there a better more up to date guide? I dont want to buy garbage from Ebay.

>>56120515
Avoiding having to open the keyboard when the cable inevitably fails.
Allowing you to change it to a larger/shorter cable if needed.

>>56120535
That keyboard guide is pretty shit.

>>56120535
Investigating and asking around is better.
I was in a similar situation some weeks back, and a kind anon told me that it's actually pretty hard to get a shit mech. keyboard if you are informed, and he was right. Post what you're looking for, and your budget. People will help.

>>56120515
Think about reasons why you wouldn't want one.

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>Convince friend into getting a mechanical motherboard
>He finally gets one and is loving it
>Few days later he says he spilled a drink on it
>Go around and see him
>Motherboard appears to be dead
>Keys all sticky as hell
>Half of them are stuck down
>Wtf
>Pull it all apart with him cleaning it all out
>Call it a night and head home
>Come back next day and he's drowned it in liqueur because of the alcohol contents to remove the stickiness
>Liqueur
>Syrup alcohol beverage
>Wtf
>Help clean it all thoroughly all day long (like 2 days now of cleaning it?)
>Get it all clean and dry, plug it in
>Nothing
>Do some digging, firmware is all corrupt
>"oh yeah some thing came up about doing a firmware update so i quickly unplugged it"
>end up figuring out how to flash it
>get it working again
>friend complains about the keys still feel sticky
>Feels fine to me
>Weekend passes
>Hear hes getting a new one
>"yeah i tried nail polish cleaner to and not its all fucked"
>keys are all burned/eaten up by the nail polish remover
>all discoloured

Fucking normies

Hhkb black or white?

>>56120927
>mechanical motherboard
/mmg/

>>56120948

I lose track of which /general/ I'm shitposting in sometimes.

>>56120936
Whichever you like the best anon.

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>>56120834
We really should write up a buyer's guide.

>>56121016
Thing is, the best aspect of mechanical keyboards is finding one that fits you best. There's lots of good options out there. But a guide would help, yeah.
I can't help that much, I only own a Ducky One (and it hasn't even arrived yet).
Still, a good, varied guide would help. The one's in the wiki are pretty old (still helpful tho)

Ducky Shine 3, 4, 5, or wait for 6?

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>>56093277
Tbh the keyboard itself is awesome but the caps are shit.

>Budget
$130
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Form factor
80%
>Backlight
non backlit
>Previous/current keyboards
CM Storm

ty

>Budget
$80
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
mx blue
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
none

>Previous/current keyboards

cheap hp and dell membranes

Is it worth signing up for a MassDrop account if I see a Realforce in my future? I'm not a keycap nuthead, but I would like to have a PBT space bar for my future Realforce.

>>56122258
You're in luck.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-104u-keyboard-with-pbt-spacebars

>>56122578
>>56122258
Just realized you were probably talking about that drop.

Anyway, it's worth it, and that drop is a good dealio.

When does Ducky Shine 6 drop? The year of the monkey is almost over.

When the fuck is I:C going to release the K-Type? I have been waiting for fucking ever.

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Should I pull the trigger, /g/? Is it a good KB? Never used a mechanical keyboard before, and this one looks really nice.
I'm thinking of getting a switch testing kit, and then ordering this with the switch of my choice.
Or should I just guess which switches I'll like best?

>>56123725
For the price of that you can get a ducky TKL. Which is much better.

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>>56123766
This? tbqh not sure I like the design of it. Not planning on investing in an entire new set of keycaps anytime soon, either.
Why do you say it's better, though?

>>56123766
What makes you say that the Ducky TKL is better?

what does /mkg/ think of ducky keyboards?/

I just fell for the pok3r meme.
how bad did i fuck up?

Guys I like romer g's the best am I gay?

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fullsize masterrace

>>56121016
>>56121051
No one is willing to put in the time to make and maintain such a guide. You have to keep track of stock levels for tons of boards (there's lots of chinkshit out there) and for many countries. Things change from month to month.

>>56121016

Poorfags buy model M or random ALPS on ebay. 60% buy a v60/pok3r. Or a Filco/KUL/Ducky 87%. Or Realforce. Done theres the damn guide.

>>56117343

Honestly them and Cherry make my favorite PBT sets.

>>56125115
I can make a murican guide later, but someone else should make a eastern and western yuropoor version. Prices and selection are way different over there.

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My membrane keyboard broke, so I fell for the mechanical meme. Poorfag from shithole country. Just bought a CM QuickFire XTi, the cheapest one I could find in my country with MX Browns, number pad, international layout and that didn't look like megazord.

How is it? [spoiler]Did I fuck up?[/spoiler]

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Okay, I'm sorry this isn't a mechanical keyboard.

But I've acquired a Microsoft Natural Keyboard from a friend. I'm trying to find a driver for it, anyone know where I should be looking? My search results are being muddied by the newer models. Picture I found on the internet.

>>56118703
haven't had any ping issues with mine. the g80-1800 black switches ping pretty hard though.

>>56125642
Wouldn't it be nice if that were in a easily repostable form so you don't have to answer the same questions over and over again?

>>56092278

>think about finally buying a mechanical keyboard to check out why they're so hot in demand on /g/

>the cheapest one available costs 70 Euro

jesus

>no 104key realforce with uniform 55g topre switches and pbt caps
Is this true suffering?

>>56128509
Maybe if don't look for it. A g84-4100 is 25-35 €

>>56128898
How would it feel to go for the first time from a laptop Asus N-series keyboard (and cheap 15 Euro keyboards before that) to say, a mechanical keyboard like this one
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2483009,00.asp
I can get it for 80 EUR with free shipping, and the drawbacks (no LED, no special macro buttons, bland look) don't seem bad to me.

>>56129096
For 80bucks that's fine but are you really sure you want a numpad? Less is more if you have layers.

>>56128808
>104
/g/ee, , anon, how come your mom lets you have two windows keys?

>>56129136
I recall thinking a few times in the last year that having a numpad would be convenient although I can't remember the reason why.

>>56129195
Having a numpad on a combination or a layer is usually more than enough. Unless you work with 3d editing a lot or similar, then get an external one.

>>56111954
As long as you have Cherry (or some clone thereof) switches, the caps will be interchangeable. You might run into issues with the non-square keys, but those are standard, too. You just need to know which size each of your keys are. (The square ones are always 1U.)

>>56118375
>topre
>not alps
pleb

>>56129997
fuck off with your chump change dick waving

>>56129997
goes for you and every other cancerous twat posting "muh master race", too

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The keyboard of my wettest dreams is coming closer to being real with every passing day

Also going to make a PCB for a 40% on the weekend

>>56092642
those caps are THICC

>>56094289
yes

>>56129997
I guess I'm the only one who agrees

>>56123776
>>56123766
>>56123725
kul es 87 has probably the best stock keycaps on this planet
built well and has dip switches that allow you to change key positions which should be on every board but isnt

anon coming from someone whos tried about every mx switch just hop on the clears bandwagon and you should be happy
if you can tolerate noise blues are good but i've found blues change too much depending on what board theyre in
my friends shine 5 makes blues feel like trash but they feel great in my QFR
do it no regrets

>>56129997
>not having oneness with the cup rubber
some people will never leran

>>56131431
>Laser-etched ABS
>Best stock keycaps

You're new to this, aren't you?

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Is there any reason to buy this and the adapters?

https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Japanese-Lettering-Computer-Keyboard/dp/B00SXBT46O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471467441&sr=8-1&keywords=ibm+japanese

https://www.amazon.com/Foot-Serial-Cable-Female-RS232/dp/B003UKEIWI/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1471467524&sr=1-2&keywords=female+to+female+db9+cable

>>56131518
have you owned one?
comparing them to my other ABS keycap keyboards i haven't found anything better

i do prefer GMK over it though

>>56131956
I bought four of them for my collection, they're awesome but that adapter won't do anything.

You need a custom-wired Teensy or Soarer's converter going into that with firmware from https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/xt-at-ps2-terminal-to-usb-converter-with-nkro-t2510.html

Still great for 60-70 bucks all-in. Way more interesting than a model M for the same money.

>>56132092
No, but I can tell you that laser-etched legends turn any keycap to shit, regardless of how THICC they are.

If you want good stock keycaps, get a HHKB/Realforce/Leopold or a Ducky one with dye-subbed PBT

>>56132207
I have a db9 male connector on my computer will it not work?

>>56132248
It will not.

if i had to choose between green, blue and brown switches. what would be my best choice?
This is my first keyboard and i don't know if i want too much noise , but i heard browns are complete shit so..

>>56132207
wait that keyboard isn't xt at or ps2 how will the adapter even work

>>56132571
That adapter isn't originally any interface, it just comes pre-wired to those from resellers. You can buy an original converter and wire it up completely, or rewire a premade to an RS232 cable on one end.

>>56125962
Don't forget Canada, Australia, and what-to-buy-when-you're-in-Japan.

>>56132320
I dont know. Do you live near a frys, microcenter, best buy or any other store that you could try out yourself?

Ducky One or Shine 5?
Price isnt an issue.

Will my housemates hear a blue switch if I don't close my door?

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>>56093277
Bought a black one from geekhack's marketplace thanks to some anon's tip.
If you read this, thank you based anon. It was worth it.

>>56131956
>>56132207

ALPS SKCC?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ajazz-Geek-AK33-Backlit-USB-Wired-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-for-PC-Laptop-/121991387736?var=&hash=item1c6740da58:m:m8UdK8NaQRLhr0Zm2pw3NJA

verdict?

>>56094758
>gunslinger girl

My nigga

>>56132229
i do own a hhkb and a realforce
trying to get into mx memes but all mx switches are shit besides clears

>>56133814
you can just call them parents

>>56135175
False. I prefer topre all the way but greens, clears and greys are good mxs switches

What is the cheapest board with MX Greens or green equivalents? My current board is a $40 Magicforce with MX Blue knockoffs, and I like the click but the activation force is ridiculously low. I might as well be using reds.

>>56135677
XD

>>56136163
;^)

Hey anons, I had the opportunity to mess with a co-workers mech at work and now I want to throw money at one.

I honestly love the sound and feel of typing on one, but I'm curious, is it actually worth it? Will these keyboards last forever? Because I can still get a cheap membrane keyboard for $10. In your experience, has your mechanical keyboard been a worthwhile investment aside from comfort and aesthetics? While the amount of money isn't really significant, I still get buyer's remorse if I'm disappointed with something.

>>56136648
it's purely aesthetics and comfyness

>>56136648
yes, it is worth it.
you will never go back to membranes and hate it when you have to type using someone else's computer/keyboard

idk if they will last forever, but it doesn't really matter because you WILL fall into this meme hole and buy different mechanical keyboards/keycaps before the first one breaks desu,

the only thing that will probably break easy are the LEDs, but that goes with any kind of backlit keyboard.

backlit keyboards look lame anyway.

>>56136843
>>56136864
Thanks for the info. I dislike backlights. I'm also a huge miser so I don't really think I'll fall for any consumer memes. At beast I'd buy one keyboard and maybe different keycap sets.

I think I'll hold off for now since I'm still deciding which one I even want. I'm thinking of buying this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OBA6QYY/
It's on sale but I don't know for how long. It's relatively cheap and it looks nice, imo.

>>56136000
yeah but greens are loud
and grays are only found in weird fuckin keyboards and i dont have any time to spend on soldering a keyboard
i have some gateron blacks coming in soon though so ill see how they perform w/ the tada68 maybe ill like them

How often do you clean your keyboards? I've gotten used to wiping down mine with alcohol wipes every other day but I feel like I might be overdoing it.

>>56137781
Youll like gaterons over cherry thats 100% sure atleast

>>56139282
For my daily driver?
Once in two days with a brush once every month that I bath the caps + clean inside

I know its a gaymer keyboard but the HyperX Alloy looks nice. Looking at getting one, thoughts?

>>56100352

Gross... But ehh.... Okay... I guess... If you really like old shit

Any trusted Chinese dealers? I used to order from qtan, but lately his selection has been steadily melting and he hasn't posted in his forum for months.

>>56111933
>K70
>Not the K65 without the LED crap

Honestly the floating keys is a nice touch with any of those keyboards but the K70 is overkill and makes a nice keyboard design look ugly.

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Other than looks, is there any reason to buy anything more expensive than a $60 quickfire?

All of these keyboards use the same Cherry MX switches anyway, right?

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>>56092819
Literally my keyboard, browns feel great btw

I have a cooler master rapid I.

I would have been fine with a normal one, but it was literally the only keyboard that had brown switches.

>no home, end or arrow keys on the first layer

Wow, it's useless!

>>56136113
get gateron greens on ebay

>>56141835
>Opinion

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>>56141350
>All of these keyboards use the same Cherry MX switches anyway, right?
Well no, not really.

But to answer your question about the Quickfire, in your situation I wouldn't buy a new board with the same switch type.

>>56134863
psl repsodn, i need to know if i should spend 35 or an official 80 euros on a keyboard

>>56134863
>>56142122
dont do it.

>>56144504
cherry over kailh. never hesitate on that choice.

Do you think we will change into /ikg/ with those infrared and shit switches coming out? They seem to be much better than mechanical switches
>lower latency
>less parts that can fail (no contact plates)
>potentially water-proof
>analog switches for gaymen

>>56145409
No, hall effect switches have been around for 50 years and we're still here.

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whats the best keyboard out if these five? found em on the chink shit part of the wiki

is there such a thing as a good wireless mechanial keyboard?

>>56147809
Yep, Filco Minila Air. I've heard the Lindon was pretty good for a lot less, but it uses Kaihl switches.

Still hard to rec the Filco over it since it's 3x the price.

Where to buy Ducky Ones besides MechanicalKeyboards, ebay, and ncixUSA?

>>56148565
There is a list of partners on Ducky's website.

Is there a place that consistently carries thick dyesub PBT caps without waiting for group buys or having only some exotic charsets?

How much louder in general are mechanical keyboards compared to rubber dome keyboards? I prefer to work on my projects at night but I live in a one room dormitory and every year I get a new normie roommate (they go to sleep before midight pretty much always) and one of them already threatened to kill me because the sound of my (rubber band) keyboard typing was apparently making him unable to sleep.

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1976 will be here in a few days

i await my incorrect gradient :^)

>>56149208
what switches are you interested in?

my lubed zealios are very comparable in noise to the keys on my laptop

>>56149305
No red switches (I think that would be too much for someone who only used rubber band before) and obviously not blue switches either since they're the loudest ones right.

>>56149349
red switches are still loud if you bottom out with them, if you don't they are essentially silent.

and blues/greens are probably the loudest cherry switch but not quite in general
https://youtu.be/hK2cnxXauls?t=40

>>56147721
Magicforce 68. It's the closest thing to a good keyboard out of all of those.

>>56149349
Get browns then, they're the stealthiest, just like browns IRL.

>>56103821
Why do I need the keycaps? I don't know, I am not into mkg modding.

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Oh hey, it almost looks like a heart.

Do you think I should leave this shape as it's about minimal area needed to contain switches and micro-controller or make it bigger and more rectangular for easier packing and carrying around?

>>56149208
Move out and rent a house in the boonies, youll thank me later.
Though its probably too late now unless you pay a big fee.

>>56149788
Yeah but there's no 1 Gbps Internet connection for 20 cents a day Internet connection in the boonies.

>>56149843
internet connection

>>56149809
what keyboard is this?

>>56149902
yes

>live in the third world
>only keyboards with red switches available

explain this