/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

I'm having trouble getting noveau working in a vm.I have the xf86 package, but x dosent seem to want to use it

Is KDE usable yet?

How come Fedora is the only OS where my wireless card works out of the box?

It doesn't work on Windows (I have to install a driver from the disc).
It doesn't work on Debian or Ubuntu (I have to install the driver from source).
It doesn't work on CentOS (trying to get it working now).

But on Fedora, it runs with no problems even from the live CD.

Hey guys my HDD bricked so so need to restart from scratch on a new HDD.
I'm a Windows cuck but interested in Linux a bit and think this could be a good excuse to give Win a try.

I'm eyeing Xubuntu to try out since Ubuntu is the most friendly distro(?) and installgentoo says Xubuntu is the most popular.

Thoughts? Should I give Xubuntu a try or are there better alternatives? I'm a normieish user that just does social media and plays vidya (most vidya I play works on Linux).

>>56068272
KDE will never be usable.

>>56068255
Post tail of /var/log/Xorg.0.log

>>56062362
Bumping this

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I opened Ubuntu in a virtualbox, and everything is so fucking small!! Look at this shit.
I've also opened another distro from a live USB and it was small too.

What gives? How they fuck do I make this shit usuable? I'm getting a headache just looking at it. It's set to the resolution of my computer

My web browser has an option in the config to run on multiple CPU processes. Should I enable? I'm assuming it meant cores, because I don't think a web browser can function on 1 process.

>>56068840
You have to move face closer to screen friendo

>>56068821
Install arch linux and you'll learn CLI in no time.

>inb4 memes.

>>56068857
Which web browser?

>>56068821
>codeacademy
lmao

Read the OP
http://fglt.nl/resources.html

>>56068876
Not sure if serious

>>56068279
diff lspci's

>>56068881
I can install Arch Linux the Arch way easy, I did it in a VM.
>>56068899
How [current year] are those? Like are they up to date? Although I'm assuming that, like mathematics, they're never going to change.

>>56068893

Light. It's a very stripped down Firefox, and does what it claims, unlike other meme Firefoxes like Pale Moon. Running 7 tabs with 450mb memory usage. Pale Moon consumes 1.2GB with YouTube and 4chin open Was wondering if enabling this would make it any better or worse. I have a dual core 1.5GHz Celeron. Sandy Bridge I believe.

>>56068605
You're over thinking this. The only difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the desktop environment. Namely, Ubuntu uses unity and Xubuntu uses XFCE.

Install what looks more pleasent to you.
And you can always install unity on Xubuntu or XFCE on Ubuntu anyway.

What's the point in running Debian based distros like Ubuntu? Why not just use Debian?

>>56068956
Because Cannonical rices and configures everything so you don't have to.

>>56068956

It's all about branding, which is sad to see in an open source envirnment, where we are all supposed to be free.

What's the point of using unstable distros like Arch on hadware instead of something stable?

Can't you just tinker around and learn inside a VM?

>>56069017
what's wrong with Arch's stability?

>>56069039
It breaks often.

>>56069067
it doesn't for me, and i've been using it since 2012

>>56069017
You should probably wear kneepads and a helmet while using a computer in case you fall off your chair and hurt yourself.

>>56069087
>>56069109
>triggered Arch babbys

There wouldn't be a problem on the configuration end as to why MPD doesn't automatically stream when I hit play on my device, and normally takes jiggling to even get laggy sound? SFTP + VLC seems to have no such problems.

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I really haven't messed with linux much on this machine because I always heard about how much of a pain it was with AMD cards. What options do I have here I heard ubuntu dropped support for old cards in 16.04.

I still have a lot of games that don't work with linux and I don't really want to mess with wine would it be possible to pass through both of those graphics cards to a windows VM with this old hardware? The mobo has an integrated HD4290 too if needed. Of course I know dual booting is always an option but I don't like rebooting even with a SSD

>tfw only using ubuntu because I really like the logo
h-heh

>>56069017
Believe it or not some people like getting new and exciting features out of their software every week. Also on a stable OS you might wait a month to get the latest fatal bash vulnerability fixed.

>>56068919
>I can install Arch Linux the Arch way easy, I did it in a VM.
Then you're already half way there. But really, what does learning CLI even mean? Do you know the basics of the shell? Then you should just man any command you want to know more about. There is nothing deeper to it.

There are too many programs that do radically different things for them to all be listed into one comprehensive book.
Like, if you wanted to process text you would know about:

sed grep awk sort head tail

But if you wanted to know how to do network administration on linux you would know about:

ip tc iptables

They all have their respective manuals but they're often out of context or too long that they'd all be included in the same tutorial or book.

You need to learn by practice.

I have a fresh debian install on my pc, and none of the things in the terminal work. I type in apt-get update, it doesn't work. I try sudo apt-get update, and it says that sudo is not a command recognized by bash.

What is happening?

>>56069067
It breaks if users dont configure their system properly

>>56068919
Find something interesting you want to do, and learn how to do it. Go through the ropes, shit gets very repetitive after a while

>>56069067
That's not what stable means you fucktard

>>56069039
Some people don't like having to reboot their computer twice a week because some new package won't restart properly.

>>56069200
I don't want to deal with stupid shit like this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4xiprd/cannot_get_virtualbox_guest_addons_working/

>>56069255
>stupid shit
So again, a user issue.I dont blindly install packages, and if it is something big like that, check the changelog and forums.Syyu once a week if you're incompetent

>not using snapshots

Go to mac if you want to be hand held.

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>>56068876

>>56069295
The Arch community is so nice!

>>56068881
>Install arch linux and you'll learn CLI in no time.
memes, all you learn is 10 commands to install

>>56069295
Incompetent packagers is not a user issue. It's a staff issue. Have you ever used a distro with paid staff? It's a good feeling. Shit like that doesn't happen.

Hey guys, I want to install Linux but I'm scared it will break my computer :( So I bought a fire-proof box to put my compuer in in case it explodes from Linux hacking. I ask my mom to install for me because I'm so afraid of Linux ;(

Are there more precautions I should take???

>>56069327
If you cannot maintain proper maintance, it is not the devs or anyone elses fault.
Dont use arch, no one is making you, go grab a buntu, or a 5 year old kernel on the deb/fed distros.

>>56069340
Yeah, the UPSTREAM package is bugged. No amount of packaging is going to change t hat

>>56069356
Not letting the broken package downstream would. Why do you think testing branches exist?

How come Ubuntu is the best distro out of the box on my ThinkPad? I used antergos and mint and Fedora before and it works way better

>>56069351
beware of keyloggers, they are pretty common on linux, especially ubuntu. make sure to test if you are infected with this command:

cat ~/.bashrc

if the command returns typed keys, you're infected with "shellshock"

>>56069401
Normal Ubuntu or a derivative?

>>56069401
It's an actual out of the box distro.

>>56069401
Go away Canonical.

>>56069415
It's cat ~/.bash_history you dumb fuck.

>>56069430
I installed it today I'm not a shill.

Just 16.04 lts

>>56069401
Install Trisquel.

>>56069456
What's that

>>56069445
Ignore the archbaby. He's jealous that other distros have competent developers.

>>56069461
Ubuntu without botnet.

>>56069461
It's Richard M. Stallman shilling his freetard OS.

>>56069461
The best logo distro. https://trisquel.info/

>>56069513
What's it based off of? Arch?

>>56069462
I'm getting tired of this bullshit.

NO. THAT'S IT.

/fglt/ IS NOW OFFICIALLY ARCH AND GENTOO ONLY!

>>56069530
Ubuntu.

>>56069530
see
>>56069472

>networking driver doesn't work out of the box
>guides tell you to 'yum install' some package
>you have to have internet to install the drivers you need to access the internet

freetards will defend this

>>56069569
>unironically using fedora

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>>56069552
Get your own club archbaby

>>56069564
What's better about it?

what are the advantages of switching to linux? i'm trying to get more into it

>>56069593
Less botnet.

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do you guys stream your music (youtube, spotify,...) or save them in your computer?

>>56069590
It's free.

>>56069609
I dont like todays music in the slightest, so i have an mpd server setup that i stream from

>>56069609
We listen to cat /dev/urandom | aplay converted to FLAC.

>>56069593
Supreme automation. That's why autists love it.

>>56069569
>doesn't even know how to install a package locally
Now riddle me how you expect to install USB drivers over the network when your wlan drivers are in your flash drive.

>>56069614
So is Ubuntu right?

>>56069620

mpd server? so you save them on your pc?

>>56069653
Ubuntu runs vanilla linux, which is partly proprietary.

Alright, guys. Probably a dumb question.

I have Fedora 24 installed on my home server. For whatever reason it will not set the correct resolution for my monitor. It defaults to 1280x1024 when it should be 1680x1050.

I followed the steps here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution and it worked perfectly. After I do that it runs the monitor at the correct resolution.

However, after a reboot or even a log out it goes back to 1280x1024 and I no longer have the 1680x1050 option.

How do I make the "custom" resolution permanent?

>>56069620
Do you also have awful buffering issues or is that just me?

>>56069630
Useless use of cat. (Why are people keep doing this?)

aplay < /dev/urandom

>>56069663
Oh well I'll stick to it unless that version is infinitely better

>>56069653
Ubuntu comes with Unity, which is a bloated piece of shit

Why are they called NetInstalls?

>>56069683
>why are people keep doing this?)
so you can see all that text in your terminal, like matrix

>>56069699
This
I mean, this is the reason everyone uses linux right?

>>56069590
It's basically Ubuntu that takes away not only your ability to install proprietary software but even the ability to FIND OUT OR KNOW about proprietary software.

According to RMS, you're free not only when you're just running free software.
Your MIND has to be free from proprietary software as well!

https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html
> According to the project, this software is “not part of the Debian system,” but the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers, and people can readily find these nonfree packages by browsing Debian's online package database and its wiki

>>56069608
>>56069631

any recommended distro for a beginner?

>>56069696
Because you Install over the Net.
Mind=blown

>>56069696
you download the packages during install, instead of during the iso download.

>>56069789
kek'd

>>56069766
Found the anti GNU shill.

You're wrong buddy. You can install everything on free distros the same way as on non-free distros.

>>56069774
xubuntu

>>56069774
Depends on what you want to do. If you want to take it lightly go Debian otherwise go Arch; NO I WILL NOT RECOMMEND UBUNTU FUCK OF BABBIES.

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I am looking for an openbox replacement

I have a whole setup which is openbox as wm, plank and xfce4-panel on the bottom of the screen like pic related, compton for compositing, xbindkeys for keyboard shortcuts, dmenu to execute things that are not on plank, etc etc

I just use openbox because I don't know anything better
I don't use any of openbox's features really, I ignore its rmb desktop menu and I also don't like how it doesn't snap to edges when you drag and there isn't Arc theme for it

tl;dr what standalone wm do I use

>install Arch
>shit breaks
>install Ubuntu
>just werks,

uh, linuxtards?

>muh canonical/redhat boogeyman

is this being pushed by the germans?

>>56069809
>>56069815
Seriously get the fuck off my board took-last-year's-memes-seriously

>>56069774
Literally Ubuntu.

>>56069824
Snap to edges is hard to find in stand alone wm. Maybe switch to xfce, xfwm does that

>>56069841
Canonical is actually really bad. Why do you think people create threads asking where's the point in switching to Linux when they can have ubuntu in win10? The partnership alone says everything.

>>56069866
>Snap to edges
jwm does that. and that WM as minimal as you can possibly get.

>>56069846
>Literally Ubuntu.
>not xubuntu

kill yourself 9gagger

>>56069887
o nice i did not know thata

Is it easy to change DEs on an already installed Ubuntu? I know you can just install different flavour isos but I don't feel like reinstalling everything. I wanted to give Unity a try but I'm really not feeling it.

>>56069841
No idea what's wrong with RedHat, rumors about NSA, but not sure if memes. Maybe systemd/pottering.

The way I see it is I have one major decision to make.

A
>Install a "hard" distribution and have to constantly fight it to get it to work.

B
>Install a "noob" distribution and get real work done

If I choose A then I can feel accomplished without really accomplishing anything. With B I can actually live my life and advance my career.

>>56069901
Yes it is easy
Literally apt install the DE and it will appear as an option on the login screen

>>56069840
hello rễddit

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I want to like Linux because of the diversity in user customisation, but I've ran into a lot of common issues when using it on my laptop:
>screen tear
I do honestly believe my gfx card is not being used to it's designed potential. A lot of 60 fps videos and streams expose the horrible screen tear at the top of my screen. It's not as noticeable when scrolling but it does happen. In general, it feels like the hardware is being worked more while having substandard playback compared to Windows.
> does not detect active events such as video streams which should otherwise prevent screen from dimming or locking
I've used three distros all which have similar behavior. Have yet to find away around aside from setting the screen to never dim or lock which isn't ideal.
> suspend state uses lots of battery compared to windows sleep state

>>56069895
That's one of the memes I was talking about. You never noticed that it's kinda shitty?

>>56069882
as if any other company would have turned their nose to that, better than all the macshit devs have to use.

>>56069903
probably systemd, and gnome. those are the two things i see mostly.

>>56069919
Actually, you should learn the most you can from a harder distro and then going back to a just-werk distro. Otherwise when shit actually breaks you wouldn't know what to do other than cry.

What's Gentoos default init system?

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>>56069119
>>56069462
You'll never have a cute girl like this.

>>56069824
fluxbox

>>56069973
my thoughts exactly.

in the latter phase of this and was worth going through all that. feel much more comfortable with gnu/linux

>>56070014
That's a cartoon you retard.

>>56070014
So you basically stole Linux-mint tan?

Hey /g/ I've been using Arch for ~6 months now, and I'm thinking about installing Gentoo. Any general tips/advice? All I know is to follow the handbook to install

this will sound super retarded but whatever
If I were to install (x)Ubuntu would
1. USB Flash Drives work to move files to that partition
2. What windows files are and aren't compatible (things like jpeg, png, gif, webm, pdf, doc)

>>56070051
>>56070062
Holy shit archfags BTFO.

>>56070010
>gentoo
>default
U w0t m8?

>>56069866
I used to use xfce but I don't want a full fledged DE
I considered using xfwm4 but I'm dumb and don't know how to do that, xfwm is not meant to be used standalone afterall

>>56070082
a-arch-tan's real in my mind and my dreams

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>>56070014
>implying

>>56070066
2. those are all fine
1. if i understand right, you can xfr the stuff over directly w/o using a flash drive

>>56070066
Where do I start. Files will all be compatible if they are not fully proprietary and obscure. What you are looking for are file systems. If you use fat32 on the usb mass storage device you will have the least amount of problems. Read up on file systems for real. Basically default to ext4, avoid ntfs (and only mount it in read only) and use fat for things that need to accessible from every OS.

One of the things that come to my mind these days is if when you are installing a distro like gentoo or arch, all the files in the memory or cd that you are using to install the OS, are loaded into ram or only some of them and the others ones get to ram when you need it,
srry if my english is bad

>>56070014
>mfw

>>56070010
>>56070090
Gentoo has a default init system, OpenRC

>>56070066
1. If the flash drives were formated as FAT definitelly. If they were formatted as NTFS you'll probably have to install 'ntfs-3g' package if you want to have a write support, however reading will definitelly work.

2. All media files will work (all of which you listed). The only thing that won't work are the programs (.exe).
Although you can run .exe programs on linux using WINE (usually) there are bugs/problems. Most programs should work though if you really needed to run Windows programs on Linux.

>>56070134
Only when you access them

>>56070134
What is the question and why would you compare things so different from each other?

>>56070167
what are those things so different???

>>56070211
One is source based and gives you choice while the other has shitty defaults, doesn't support a lot of things and has a shit community.
Heck you can even use a bsd kernel on gentoo.

Is Debian Testing actually meant to be used as a daily driver distro or is it strictly recommended for testing newer packages for Debian stable as the name suggests?

>>56070134
Concerning Arch's and Gentoo's installer disks, only the base system is loaded into memory and other files from the disk are loaded on demand.

You can test this easily. Just boot it up and then wait at least 10min until the CD reader idles. After that, type any command (e.g. lsblk) and you'll experience lag because the CD reader needs to run up to speed again. After you ran the program it's cached in memory and any time you use it again it's read from.

But It's possible to create a system that completely resides on the ramdisk though.

>>56070281
*read from there.

>>56070276
yes

>>56069679
Isn't there a screen resolution line in grub config file ? Not sure, I'm on windows right now.

>>56070276
Debian testing is fine for daily driver
Debian stable software is usually really old
The names are confusing yes
Ubuntu for example looks more like testing than stable in terms of software oldness

>>56070276
What you mean is experimental. Sid and testing are fine for regular usage.

>>56069679
Well you need to add that modeline to your xorg.conf but that's scary shit

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>>56070105

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>>56070140
Forgot pic

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Thoughts?

Are there any important differences between Gentoo and Funtoo?

>>56068272
Its going fine

>>56070405
stop

>>56070383
you own your os, you understand its operation, blah blah kill yourself you retarded faggot.

>>56070405
wtf freetards are literally fighting over a singular anime girl that's how desperate linux virgins are.

>>56070383
I'll bite

I've yet to meet a Linux user who likes the Windows user experience

And several distros come with Windows-like experience out-of-the-box anyway

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>>56070254
>support alot of things
[citation needed]
Gentoo lacks far more

>>56070452
>Windows-like experience
toolbars, virus and botnet?

>>56070460
>not librebooting

>>56070465
No distro managed to replicate that part of the Windows experience yet

>>56070383
>implying user experience is the only thing worth considering when choosing an os

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>>56067872
I am using the best distribution of GNU/Linux on my x40.

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>>56070383
>implying

>>56069683

cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -v -e '/1 "%u\n"' | awk '{ split("0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12",a,","); for (i = 0; i < 1; i+= 0.0001) printf("%08X\n", 100*sin(1382*exp((a[$1 % 8]/12)*log(2))*i)) }' | xxd -r -p | aplay -c 2 -f S32_LE -r 16000

/fglt/ -- I have retired my dual-booted gaymen machine to server duties only (Debian stable) and moreover want to make it headless but still with an x server.

As part of this I had configured x11vnc to use display 0 with an auto-logged-in user because otherwise I couldn't get it to do certain super user shit like open thunar as root, etc. I'm not exactly sure why but this workaround was OK for my purposes.

At any rate, this worked fine until I removed my nVidia card and was going to just run what little graphical stuff I needed too off the integrated graphics (SandyBridge, i3-2120).

Now when I have a monitor hooked up to it I just get a terminal login. VNC still works if I connect to display 1 but I'm back at square one with no super user access. xorg.conf is still configured with the nVidia card as the device, and I'm just trying to figure out how in the hell I'm supposed to nuke my xorg.conf and rebuild it with my integrated intel (and if so, do I need graphics drivers and which package(s) do I need to install?).

If somebody can just point me in the right direction I can probably muddle through. Thanks in advance.

>>56070130
>(and only mount it in read only)
Wait why? I like to have a separate partition as storage for all my files and I use NTFS because Windows can't read ext4 and FAT32 is too limiting, so read/write is kind of necessary for me.

>>56070735
Couldn't you leave it headless but use FileZilla on your client machine?

>>56070686
Jesus fucking christ. are you blind nigga whats that 512x512 icons damn son

>>56070836
Are you blind? Those are no bigger than 128px.

>>56070836
It's a GNOME 3 thing. The scale is tied to how many icons are there, so it shrinks when you add more.

Pretty retarded that you can't set a static size.

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>>56067872
Just installed xfce4 next to KDE because I'm kind of not feeling KDE as much as I figured i would. What the fuck is wrong with my font?

>>56070861
I'm still failing to see how this is an issue. I haven't met one person who ever actually used the dash without turning it into a dock first.

Which desktop environment actually sets the standard? I don't want the most best or the bestest desktop environment, I'm just interested in a DE that is actually being developed and used easily by most users. Is it GNOME?

>>56070935
>I haven't met one person who ever actually used the dash without turning it into a dock first.
...You just met him. I have seen tons of screenshots with it, but never tried the extension because I guess I'm retarded.

Thanks!

>>56070965
I think GNOME2 used to set the standard, but then 3 fucked it up, so idk that there is much of a standard.

>>56070965
GNOME is the flagship desktop of the best distro in the linux world, but I'm pretty sure the in-house DE of most popular distros is fairly well-maintained.

>>56070965
KDE and gnome are probably the most active with the most people behind them. Both are nice to use, depends on what you want really.

>>56070991
>the best distro in the linux world
Go on, please humour me.

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>>56070965
too fractured for that, would be great to all unite to one goal, but that's too socialist for the libertarians in the free software scene.

>>56070935
Holy shit the dash is really nice, why isn't it just enabled by default, and the upperleft corner disabled?

>>56071044
It wouldn't be great at all. There have been attempts and they have failed because there are so many different wants and needs. Windows is unified because there is no choice. We have choice so there is no need for unification. There are plenty of hands working on the big DEs.

>>56070691
That's cool, but as he said you can drop cat and have

hexdump -v -e '/1 "%u\n"' < /dev/urandom | awk '{ split("0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12",a,","); for (i = 0; i < 1; i+= 0.0001) printf("%08X\n", 100*sin(1382*exp((a[$1 % 8]/12)*log(2))*i)) }' | xxd -r -p | aplay -c 2 -f S32_LE -r 16000

>>56070965
I don't like every feature that you see as critical. Now do that a trillion times, from the old 60+ farts to johnny rocket ricing to the extream to special snowflake running on toasters, fridges an rc plance.
to wide a net to catch anything

alright friendlies, help a nigga out: I have a bricked windows 10 and i want to be able to at least use my desktop until i get it fixed. I was thinking of getting Ubuntu but the only other pc I have is a windows 7 laptop. is that possible? I have absolutely no experience with Linux but kinda wanted to try it out. is it even a good idea?

>>56071175
all i can use is a 64gb flash drive

>>56071185

Install Solaris

I am now a proud user of Ubuntu MATE and will now start my journey of sorts to getting better at using and understanding Linux.
Gone are the days of Windows 10. That shit was getting so bad it's like Windows was trying to make a product that would drive people away

>>56071259
that doesnt seem like useful to me, its for cloud networks right?

>>56070834
I've got my main drives shared out via SMB so that's not really an issue.

I did find out that
>ssh -X user@machine
exists and that's a much more elegant solution to most of what I do on that box. HOWEVER, I'm getting
>X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
>Geany: cannot open display
when I try to sudo geany via ssh

If I could solve this, I could do away with the idea of VNC entirely. I'd still like to fix xorg in the event I do ever want or need to plug it directly into a monitor though.

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I'm looking for a distro that has a stable kde5 environment with good integration. I'd prefer something RPM based with a large software repository. Does such a unicorn exist?

>>56071527
you're jesting right anon?

>>56071547
Before you say Suse, I already tried it. It's very close to what I'm looking for but most of the multimedia apps in the repos are compiled to not support non-free codecs. Last time I used packman I bricked my install.

>>56071580
>bricked my install
No, your incompetency bricked it

>>56071602
>>>56071580 (You)
>>bricked my install
>No, your incompetency bricked it
No shit, I said "I" in the same sentence. I don't want to have to worry about manually marking packages.

>>56071341
Yeah I'd just copy the file to your client machine then put them back when you're done, but you could try specifically searching for what your terminal is telling you.
>>X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.

>>56071044
how do you browse le deep web anonomously? wht browser? besides tor

>>56071527
There's a Fedora KDE spin if you absolutely must have RPM, but since packages and nonfree packages are your main concern I'd just go for Kubuntu.

>>56071643
Yeah, I'm digging through forum posts, the Arch wiki, etc. The solution is probably not that difficult, it's just evading me for now.

>>56071680
Thanks. I'll give kubuntu a try. I haven't used it since 15.04, but remember it being very pleasent (apt* being the exception)

What's the best torrent client?

>>56071771
rtorrent. accept no substitutions

>>56067872
I think I just killed my SSD.

I really wasn't a fan of how bloated my debian install had become compared to my arch install, so I wanted to try starting from a netinstall, since it seemed to promote a more minimal install.

I told it to delete all data on the partition, and realized it was just going to do it "at that moment" so I cancelled it and figured I would just repartition it. I told it to do so, it did, and as I was installed, the kernel failed to install "Well that's weird."

I go back to erase the data this time since that's what it was telling me to do, and fucking sdb had completely vanished without a trace.

Anybody ever run into a problem like this, or is my SSD dead, jim? (840 Evo so it's already bad juju)

>>56071892
Have you tried mounting the drive in a live environment or moving it to a different machine? Come on, these are the first things you should do.

>>56071934
I'm going to test a few different ports, but I don't really have the ability to test it on another machine.

Gonna dick with it in a sec but was first updating the bios on the off chance it worked

How would I go about opening videos from youtube or some other streaming websites in a popout window that doesnt display any bloat (url, tabs, etc.) other than the video and the openbox decoration that I know I can just close? I am using firefox if it matters.

>>56072040
open with... extension, then add mpv to that, and done

>>56072060
Okay so I've installed the extension and added mpv. Problem is, everytime I right-click a video on youtube I get some retarded menu that they made. Other flash-based videos that I try to right-click just give me an option for flash settings and thats all. Should I be clicking in a specific position? I tried opening a youtube link with MPV but that doesn't seem to work.

>>56069824

Took me 3 seconds to find the Arc theme for Openbox.

https://searx.me/?q=arc%20openbox&categories=general

Okay, I cannot figure this out.

On Arch, I'm trying to install the Linux 4.8 kernel, aka the linux-mainline package along with the headers.

After waiting a couple hours it finally compiled and installed. But when I tried to update grub, it gave me an error: "sed couldn't flush stdout no space left on device".

I don't know how this can be true when I have a 30G root partition and a 500G home partition. Uninstalling the linux-mainline package fixes the problem... Any ideas? Does the linux-mainline package just fill up root? Is there a way to prevent that? I'm so lost.

>>56072351
And if that's the case, is there a way to allocate more space to root or am I screwed?

>>56072351
>After waiting a couple hours it finally compiled
My kernel compiles in three minutes. Maybe you should configure your kernel so recompiling it doesn't take half the day, and it should be smaller.

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>>56070735
>>56070834
>>56071341
>>56071643
>>56071692

>mfw I'm not 100% sure of everything I did, but I fixed it

In short, I removed several nVidia/driver packages, rebooted into recovery mode, reconfigured X, and rebooted. I got my X window to start up on the intel graphics just like normal on a regular monitor.

Then after disconnecting it I got a hilariously tiny VNC window so I had to install xserver-xorg-video-dummy and configure that.

All fixed now. I'm at least back where I started before removing the nVidia card. I still want to be able to ssh -X and do su shit now that I've discovered it but I'll leave that for another day.

Thanks to the responding anon(s), sometimes it's nice to just be able to talk it out with moral support.

>>56072298
click links and such. should be using the html5 player already, but don't know your setup or why you have flash installed on firefox

>>56072533
Why would I not? Flash is required for crunchy roll, other major streaming websites and some of the other websites that I use on a daily basis. Is there something wrong with using flash?

>>56072658
It is proprietary shit. And just shit. Also, >streaming

>>56072665
So you expect me to abandon flash even though I rely on it heavily? You're not giving me a single reason to. I don't see a problem with it but if there is an alternative solution to using flash then count me in.

>>56072692
Flash is a fuckhuge security liability even on Linux. Use HTML5. Abandon sites which use flash. Stop streaming anime and torrent it instead.

>>56072733
I won't disagree that it is a security liability, but I really have no choice. I don't own a vpn and I don't have some sort of private trackers to download it from and my ISP has sent letters before about pirating shit.

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New to Linux here. I have two questions:

First and foremost, what exactly makes XFCE more customizable than something like, say, GNOME or Mint? I very often see XFCE (and MATE, too) touted around for its customizability, but what qualities does it possess that makes it better than other DEs in this regard? I tried out GNOME, for example, and the bundled tweak tool/extensions system seemed to work pretty well. And yet, I've seen some people say that GNOME is actually rather poor for customization. So, what makes XFCE (and MATE) special?

Secondly, are there any guides on how to customize things in XFCE?

>>56072765
only way you should be using flash on linux is with chrome or chromium/pepper

>>56068272
its pretty ok if you dont have multiple monitors. multiple monitors part is pretty unstable

i have to use a bash script to set up the monitors(and panels) correctly and refresh kde instance on my desktop
my desktop has ati(amd) 7950 so basically it runs a script at plasma start to set up the monitors and panels correctly.

not sure if tye've fixed it but my script still runs for a good measure

doesnt happen with intel graphics, with hot docking/undoking with my thinkpad x220, sometimes rarely i have to refresh my plasmasma
session if the panel is in an incorrect position

its as simple as kquitapp5 plasmashell;kstart5 plasmashell

it's something to do with ati grapics and qt.

actually as much as i've dwelved into the problem. its seems more of a QT issue rather than plasma/kde issue


if you're someone who doesnt use multiple montitors and hot dock/undock alot then kde bretty gud

i've used kde since kde3 and i have to say tht kde5/plasma2 is more stable than kde4 was in the early days.

sometimes my panels is shown on a inactive screen if i've switched a lot
the solution is to set up your panel and widgets and make the configuration file read only
other solution is to change the parameter lastscreen in your config file manually or via a script

>>56070383
>workspaces
>tiling wm
>doesn't swallow my resources whole
I sure am replicating some other OS here. BSD maybe? Or the GNU operating system?

>>56072855
Bumping this question for interest

I have networkmanager managing my networks but it won't connect to my wireless, just gives a ip configuration error, can I just switch to something else to connect to wifi?

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Sup /fglt/,

How do I change icon size in LXDE? At 1440p they look fucking tiny.

>>56073601
is that pcmanfm?
try (ctrl)+(+) or ctrl + scroll

>>56073666
Holy shit thanks senpai, I didn't think that would work on LXDE

>>56067872
who is that lazy fat cunt at the front

>>56070798
Because this way it will fragment a
Nd inevitably fail sooner. It will also have corrupt files more often.

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What's the best way to update Gentoo?
Currently I'm using

emerge -avuDN --with-bdeps y world

but this gives a bunch of conflicts, and I get this

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ">=app-text/poppler-0.12.3-r3:0/51=".

Is it bad practice to unmerge the conflicts and then emerge them afterwards?

I'm currently using Arch, but I'm thinking about switching distros.

Which ones are better - Mint, OpenSuse, or *buntu?

I use my main computer for engineering stuff such as matlab and official support is something I desire.

I also have a GPU-Passthrough VM that I play gaymens and use Windows software, so it's nice to get something that works well with it.

>>56072855
Probably because XFCE is simple and you can:
>add more bars as you want and place them anywhere you want
>control what any icon on the bar does (so you can eg. use whisker-menu instead of default start menu)
And you can also edit most things programatically with xfconf-query or by editing XML files in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf

To be honest XFCE is not that significally different from GNOME in terms of customization. And it's lacking a lot of features that KDE has for example (that XFCE-fags in turn consider as "bloat")

If you wanted absolute customization, you would use a stand alone window manager like Openbox.

>>56074803
>Mint, OpenSuse, or *buntu
Why would switch to these from superior Arch?

>>56074803
>official support is something I desire.
Why?

>I also have a GPU-Passthrough VM
How is that related to the distro?

>>56072351
Why do you want to install unfinished kernels?

>>56072351
Did you extract the kernel in the root partition? It could be you're running out of inodes. Run [/code]df -i[/code].

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>>56072388
>compile the kernel and make incremental changes
>it takes 3 minutes guys!

G, what is best file undelete program?
TestDisk is < recuva
halp me, recuva can recover more files that testdisk
i tested on microsd

I'm using Openbox with XFCE on Arch and I want to completely disable window decorations.

I went into the Openbox conf file and changed the decor line to "no" but the shit is still there. I set a theme while fusking around the openbox config GUI, could that be overriding the window decor setting?

What distro do you suggest to put on a usb drive for repairing?

>>56075119
One that boots without issues and has all the tools?

>>56075087
While you are at it try PhotoRec as well. You seem to be capable of trying things out so you'll be able to answer your own question.

>>56075119
Porteus is built for being portable you just have to install all the tools. Otherwise, install gentoo.

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What's the best option to see and control your phone(Android) screen through Linux(Fedora) ?
Thanks

To those who dual-boot Windows, how do you store your files to access them between both OSes?

relevant to >>56070798 and >>56073888

>>56069943
Still nothing.

I'm kinda confused by permissions at the moment
isn't r-- basically the same as r-x if you copy it to your home and chmod 500 it?
does r-- have any applications?

>>56075288
If you execute it from your home it's not the same as executing it from somewhere else depending on what you execute.

Thoughts on lowlatency kernels? Is it better?

>>56075263
That's the issue.
Windows supports only two filesystems: FAT and NTFS while Linux supports almost all filesystems. And because FAT is a disaster you must use NTFS which Linux doesn't support completely well since NTFS is proprietary and it doesn't have Unix permissions.

I used to have an NTFS partition mounted where I would temporarily put files I wanted to transfer to Windows. Personally, I decided to go full linux so I wouldn't have this problem anymore.

>>56067872
So I'm currently setting up my first LFS system and am currently at the point that I chrooted into the base system and am compiling/installing glibc (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter06/glibc.html). The problem is although it says that some fails are expected, after running "make check" I now got this error message:
XPASS: elf/tst-protected1a
XPASS: elf/tst-protected1b
FAIL: posix/tst-getaddrinfo4
FAIL: posix/tst-getaddrinfo5
Summary of test results:
2 FAIL
2401 PASS
84 XFAIL
2 XPASS
Makefile:329: recipe for target 'tests' failed
make[1]: *** [tests] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/sources/glibc-2.23'
Makefile:9: recipe for target 'check' failed
make: *** [check] Error 2

I don't understand that error so I'm not sure what to do at this point.

>>56075288
For regular files r-- would disallow you from executing it.

For directories r-- would disallow you to enter it.

>>56075417
i have no idea what that error is trying to convey.
try looking into the makefile at line 329, it seems to shit the bed there for some reason.

>>56075407
FAT is fine for something you want to use with any OS and isn't too big

>>56075488
That's true.
But I couldn't use it in my case since I was mostly transferring .iso files some of which were larger than 4GB.

>>56075263
You can use a home server

>>56075480
Well fuck it I just ran "make install" and everything seems to be fine so I'll just continue I think.

>>56075417
it says in your link:
>posix/tst-getaddrinfo4 and posix/tst-getaddrinfo5 will always fail due to not having the necessary networking applications when the tests are run.

And if you look at the source code of glibc: http://code.metager.de/source/xref/gnu/glibc/posix/tst-getaddrinfo4.c
You'll see:

...
res = getaddrinfo ("example.net", service, h, &ai);
...

>example.net
It obviously means you need networking.

>>56075665
The error seems to be expected, thanks for the explanation though.

>>56075615
I don't have a separate PC for that, I don't want to deal with slow file transfer, and I don't want to bog down my home network for anyone else who lives here.

Considering FAT and NTFS are the only real options and I haven't had any noticeable issues in the last few years, I'm sticking with NTFS as my read/write cross-platform storage partition.

I guess I'll just defrag it whenever I use Windows.

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>>56068272

Suggest a better font than Source Code Pro.

>>56076082
Liberation

How good of a career is linux system administration? I have some schooling in basics of computer networking, but really love linux.

>>56076124
Bad idea, most of it is going to be automated, so the admin-teams are going to be reduced extremely and probably be outsourced to india or some other shithole. If you like digging deep into computers and their mechanics you should go into infosec/forensics.

>>56076082
Unifont, cantarell, freesans

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>>56076082
Terminus master race.

>>56076082
Well I don't think you get Monaco or Menlo on linux

I like Inconsolata or ubuntu mono

>>56076124
>How good of a career is linux system administration?
Good if you're really good at the server/datacenter level.

If you're a desktop monkey, next to worthless.

Hey guys, I recently installed Kubuntu on my laptop which is my first linux experience and so far I love it. The customization, apt-get and stuff like that. However I do have a few questions and problems I want to solve.

First is my HDD, my laptop has an SSD on which I have linux installed and also an additional 1TB HDD. Now while the HDD is installed and everything it seems to be read-only and all the tutorials I see to make it R/W are for external drives, so how could I make it writable?

Another question I have concerns aesthetics. on windows I use Opera (There is literally no good browser, anything you want to recommend me is the same shit). The thing I am bothered about is the top border in Kubuntu, that is not present in Windows, it's just free space for tabs. Besides choosing "No border" every time I launch it how could I make it just like in windows?

>>56076460
>Well I don't think you get Monaco or Menlo on linux
You should start to think then.

>>56074803

>apparently is such a power user who was able to benefit or use arch
>still hasn't realized what makes up a distribution and is asking a retarded "which distribution to choose" question

How to spot a liar: the post. What do you get from lying on an anonymous image based internet forum? What's your thought process behind that? I assume you get a kick from tricking people into believing (anonymously) that you're smart?

>>56075106

Which decor line? Post your Openbox config. You most likely blindly changed that without realizing that it's part of a commented out example section. You need to specify more than just "decor", mainly which class of windows by using a general catch-all rule.

<application class="*">
<decor>no</decor>
</application>

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My micro PC is coming in the mail tomorrow. It has an underclocked haswell i5 in it.

I am going to run it as a PLEX server, and to torrent some. Being underclocked, I want to give it as much headroom for power as possible, which is why I want to use linux.

I am pretty ignorant of linux, how do I use the least amount of resources?
Probably gonna use Ubuntu because it has very good PLEX support.

If I like turn off the GUI, can I still do a remote desktop like thing into it and manage my Plex or my torrents?
Will I be forced to leave the GUI running?

I literally am sticking it in the corner, and it will be doing nothing else.

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>>56068272
Usable? Yeah.

But I don't think I can recommend it over literally anything else. I want to like it - I really really do. But it just seems like everything I do is just a pain in the ass. Dual monitor support was FINE for me, but I was having a weird issue with firefox tabs not moving to another window and instead just opening a new window. I recently am reinstalling debian, and honestly I don't think I'm going to reinstall KDE. I kind of want to go back to xfce or MATE because of how bloated kde is. My last debian install was 2222 packages after an autoclean. Mind you - this is only after about a week of usage and setting it up to work on my desktop nice and proper.

I think the worst thing is that kwin just fucking vanished from my system without a trace, and so I had to reinstall it. I also had a weird issue where anytime I used audio, it would always reset itself back to 100 percent. The final thing that bugged me is that it's just so hard to do anything with it that isn't the default breeze. It just wore me down, and frankly I don't need that in my life.

I WANT to like KDE. I really do, but it's just frustrating.

>>56077114
>2222 packages
I bet at least 900 of those were libraries.

>>56076540
If 1TB drive is NTFS you probably need ntfs-3g package. Or maybe you need to add rw option in fstab?.
Post output of lsblk and content of

/etc/fstab

.

As for Opera if there is a "No border" option and it fixes the problem then there is probably an option to make it permanent somewhere. You might google around.

>>56076748
just go with ubuntu server, and use the web gui for admining plex/torrents

>>56077282

I fixed it by changing the write rights from root to my username, but thanks.

Help give me the best color scheme for terminal.

>>56077620
It's the one I'm using.

>>56077620
see >>56077653
alternativly: http://terminal.sexy/

>>56076566

I actually removed Arch and did my Passtrough.

All the stuttering stopped and performance actually increased.

Who -quiet -splash here?

should I install a display manager?

>>56067872
Hello, arch user here. I love my install, it's extremely stable and light enough to run very well on a first gen i3 mobile and 4gb slow af ddr3.
I need help with the following;
1. I need to run a command (sudo dhcpcd tap-easytether) whenever a USB device is connected. How can I do that?
2. I'm on XFCE. Back in the day OS X had a program called "Quicksilver" and the modern Win 10 start menu mimicks it. You can hit "Super" type "chro" (chrome) press enter and chrome will launch. What are my options on linux for a launcher that can be easily used with the keyboard?

I want to press a keybind, have a menu pop up and take focus, and start typing the name of what I want to launch until its narrowed it down, then press enter.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10990721

Everyone vote, mmkay? What is your DE?

>>56077818
2. dmenu

>>56077818
The first one is stupid. Why'd you want to run that whenever you plug in a mouse?

>>56077818
1. look into udev rules

>>56077828
Next time add all DE's.
also
>no multi choices
shitpoll/10

>>56077828
I didn't create it, someone else did in another thread. I just posted it here so more people could see it and vote.

Feel free to make another one with more options and post it in the next thread, preferably in the OP

Is the original UNIX even used at all anymore? Did any of the original UNIX versions (not talking about BSD, I'm talking about the original UNIX) source codes ever get released or is BSD the closest to UNIX source code getting release?

>inb4 >>>/v/

But is there any way I can effectively play a WoW private server on Arch? My PC is too shit specs i think to run it in a VM as you guys would probably suggest

Should I just use wine? Will that give me performance issues?

>>56077944
Solaris got a release last year, but maybe that's not original enough for you.

>>56077855
Because my phone is my internet connection and whenever I plug it in I have to open a console and type that shit in and it's just not an elegant solution.
>>56077860
thank you
>>56077838
thank you

What is the point of having a dock? It takes up a lot of space. Is it purely for looks?

>>56077944
UNIX is a trademark by Apple.

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>>56077260
I have no doubt in my mind you aren't wrong.

But then there's the issue of "is KDE really worth 900 libraries?" I wasn't expecting it to be on par with how my arch distro + MATE is, but that's a LOT of packages only for it to have as many bugs as it does. Which is a shame, I kind of like kwin. It's nice looking.

>>56078192
>counting packages
Get a life

>>56078128
In most cases the footprint isn't much larger than the laptop itself. You plug desktop peripherals into it so you can use it more comfortably at your desk and you can push one button to undock it when you need to take it with you.

Plugging in all your peripherals and unplugging them every time you need to go somewhere is misery.

I'm trying to run Tahrpup on an old HP computer. When I run the DVD it says "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU".

Can someone tell me which version of Tahrpup I should get?

>>56077944
I think BSD is the closest to UNIX you can get.

You have Darwin by Apple, though. Apparently the kernel is UNIX as well.

I think GNU/Linux (or as I've taken to calling it GNU + Linux etc etc) just took over because of convenience

>>56078200
I meant Docky or Plank docks.

>>56078128
Apple refugees do this to feel at home.

>>56078243
Ah, I don't get those either. They're just containers for shortcuts. I like Openbox's completely configurable "everything in a desktop right-click" menu. But then I was formerly a Windows user that pinned everything I gave a shit about to the Start menu and had NO desktop shortcuts too.

Different strokes.

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>>56078199
I'm falling for it.

I have a smaller SSD (120 GB to be exact) I also dual boot now.

Why shouldn't I care about software taking up space on my computer? Sure, the difference is probably not enough to really hurt me long-run, but 1200+ packages is a LOT compared to like 200 at most for say xfce or MATE.

I'll agree that anybody who wanks to having some SUPER MINIMAL DISTRO UNDER 200 PACKAGES is a filthy neckbeard, but needlessly bloating your install because somebody called you an autistic package counter on a Malaysian hair-brush vent is much more autistic.

>>56078356
Then you should still care about installation size and not the number of packages.

Why doesn't Linus get sued for violating the GPL?

My computer is fucking bricked and I don't have any idea what happened.
I was using Ubuntu 10.04 and I connected my computer to my TV with an HDMI cable to watch a movie. When it was finished I unplugged the HDMI cable and suddenly my laptop froze and I had to force restart.
Since then it will not work. I get an "aloc magic is broken" error and then the blue screen of death saying "critical system error" and it restarts.
Literally all I did was unplug the HDMI cable and it froze and I've been dealing with this since

>>56078426
Ubuntu 16.04 fuck. Don't know how I made that typo

>>56078426
>blue screen of death
Canonical collaboration with Microsoft really has gone too far.

>>56078426
boot into recovery, the Windows equivalent of Safe Mode

>>56078409
How exactly is he 'violating' the GPL?

>>56078409
He doesn't violate it at all

What's the appeal of GNOME? This shit feels very uncustomizable.

>>56078498
http://manulix.wikidot.com/kernel-blobs

What VPN do guys you use?

Is this a reliable list to start?

https://www.privacytools.io/#vpn

>>56078515
It's gnome-tastic

->
-> >>56078568
->

Just done a fresh install of Debian Testing (XFCE) and it seems GTK3 is completely missing, anyone else having this issue?

>>56078998
What issue?

>>56078192
I was talking about the main packaging difference between debian and some other distros. It splits libraries and binaries into different packages, which is a good thing but unfortunately inexperienced ricefags believe lower package count=better.

>>56077620
The one I made

>>56079040
Oh I never knew that.

I suppose I was just speaking in terms of space and size difference of packages compared to something like xfce. I've always kind of went on the philosophy of "the more libraries software depends on, the more places you have where it can break apart"