/hpg/ - Headphone General

whats better: MDR-V6s or ATH-M50s?

>>56065333
Discomfort and irritation after a short time--I don't like putting things into my ears. Custom IEMs may solve that but I don't feel like spending that much money on it as a test. Plus there is still the niggling problem of pressurization in the canal and small potential for infection.

>>56065228
I've tried many headphones and I'm not confused about the difference between muffling noise and actively canceling it. My opinion is unchanged about the effectiveness of active noise canceling and passive noise muffling. That said, I'm not a fan of the high pitched hiss I constantly hear with NC headphones. I also sometimes just feel more anxiety with it on for some reason, perhaps because all the environmental noise cues I expect are absent.

>>56065565
m40x

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Hey /g/oys.

>Budget
100 - 120€

>Location
Finland

>Source
My mobo - ASUS H93M-E

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Doesn't matter.

>Comfort level
Pretty important but you can get used to something which may look "discomfortable" at first.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past headphones

Siberia V2 - Pretty comfy but they sounded pretty bland.

Sennheiser PC 320 - These were good but the headphones themselves felt really cheap, plastic fantastic.

Sony MDR-7506 - These were really good, they sounded good and they were comfy.

If I don't happen to find anything better than the Sony headphones, I'll get them.

>>56065625
>Discomfort and irritation after a short time
Have you tried olive/comply foamies?

>I also sometimes just feel more anxiety with it on for some reason
Do you feel the same anxiety with IEMs?

>>56065673
HD558.

>>56065690
I have tried the Shure Olive tips and they were only slightly better. I don't know if I've tried the comply variety but from images they look similar to tips I've used but I don't know if they were the same type.

So far I have not had any sense of anxiety from IEMs, it seems unique to active noise canceling for me.

>Budget
about 150 dollars, but flexible

>Location
US of A

>Source
ipod calassic

>Preferred type of headphone
full sized

>Open or closed
i suppose closed are better for noisy places? help me /g/

>Comfort level
dunno, never used full sized

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past headphones
all shitty earbuds

im looking to use them in places like the metro or noisy streets btw

best price for value for the lowest expectation under 100 USD/130EUR ?

only wish is not to fall for memes

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>>56065471
>tfw when I was typsy and argued last week with a random anon saying that my odac sounded slightly better than the e10k

>tfw when I realized after time he was right

I've sold my odac and bought an e10k again. Maybe the odac is better for powering more demanding headphones but both amps sound exactly the same with my hd600 which is my endgame headphone. I'm a retard and you were right anon. I apologize.

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>>56065829
Shure SRH840, Audio Technica M50x, NVX XPT100

>>56065471
>wireless is frowned upon
But why?

>>56065941
It's not, can we please avoid the shitshow from the previous thread?

>>56065906
I'll do this according to the template:

>Budget
130 UDS equiv
>Location
EU
>Source
various
>Preferred type of headphone
doesnt matter
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
doesnt **really** matter, but Ill take the most I can get for the price
>Preferred tonal balance
doesnt matter
>Past headphones
roccat kave 5.1 (feels like a brick on your ears)

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>>56065964
???

>>56065797
>it seems unique to active noise canceling for me.
Sounds like you suffer from the sense of "pressure" ANC causes in some people.

>>56065941
We've had this discussion the last two threads. Use the archive if you are seriously inquiring and not trying to pick yet another fight.

>>56065964
Did you not read the op?
It was pretty specific about wireless being frowned upon.
Why?

>>56065665
I'm not him, but I had the M40x and I want to say that they have V-shaped sound. They sound great and natural, but not neutral as a lot of people say.

>>56066071
Is that a thing? I felt crazy because no one else I talked to about it mentioned it. Is there a name for what that effect is?

>>56066114
>Is that a thing?
It was mentioned in the article provided in the previous thread.

>>56066093
Yep, it's just shitposting against wireless using 2012 memes.

Just as I thought...

>245
>US
>Either audio interface or just regular auxillary input
>Full-sized
>Either
>Somewhat comfy
>Probably warm
I had Audiotechnica M50's that recently stopped working via the left side not sending any sound. I'm really not sure what I liked about them as they were really my first steps into audiophilia.

>>56065906
Forgot to add that he said the e10k sounds exactly the same as the o2 amp and that I disagreed. He was right. When powering the hd600 at least.

>>56065471
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

Why are these still in the op?
I can understand the others, but shit, at this point you're just intentionally shitting the op up

>>56066156
Yeah, agreed. It's just a shit op.

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>>56066134
So you are just trying to pick a fight. Are you the same faggot who got so pissed off that he is wrong that he created a specific wireless thread that went to archive after 30 so posts?

>>56065471
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
>Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"
Why is this dogshit still in the OP?

Kill yourself.

>>56066198
>he created a specific wireless thread
Hey, good idea.

>>56066156
The faggot trying to pick a fight proves to the otherwise.

>>56066228
Go do that. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>56066245
>includes unnecessary shit in the op that is retarded stupid
>gets told why it's stupid
"LOL THAT'S WHY I'M KEEPING IT IN THE OP BAKA XD"

Kill yourself.

thanks for the k702+e10k combo recommendation guys. shit sounds mint

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Daily reminder of how to achieve maximum signal fidelity:
Set your DAC to its highest bit depth, set the sampling frequency to match the majority of your music (usually 44100), set the digital volume to 100% or slightly below, and only control volume from the amplifier. Always set your amplifier to the lowest gain necessary to achieve desired listening volume.

Remember to take care of your hearing, long term exposure to sound levels over 80 dB can cause permanent hearing loss.

>>56066542
Stupid weaboo

>>56066542
You can also just set your music player to use wasapi/asio and not have to fiddle with changing bit depth/sampling rate.

>>56066607
That is ideal, but if you need to listen for anything else like messenger sounds or something, you won't hear them because of the exclusive audio modes

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>>56065471
I want a hardware EQ and I found one for $60 on amazon. My question is how the fuck do I set it up??
Is it PC -> DAC/Sound card -> EQ -> Amp?

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>wireless is inferior
2012 called, they want their memes back

>>56066762
Why don't you use Equalizer APO instead?

>>56066542
Appreciate it! I mostly listen to paid for spotify however I do listen to downloaded flac songs sometimes. Would I not be better off setting it to 48000 or 96000?

If not, why?

>>56066768
it is tho

>>56066797
I'm not well educated on this topic. I had just assumed HW eq would be better than doing it in AIMP. Also, it looks amazing and I will be more likely to tweak my shit constantly if I have it right there in front of me. I had dragging the fucking bars up and down with the mouse i always fuck up. Also I figured if I got a really powerful amp it'll give me more freedom EQ wise.

Like on my phone I'm really limited on how much I can EQ since the volume just gets too low

>>56066823
In what way?

>sound quality
Like the difference between flac and mp3 320b, it's not noticeable by the average person, and even when it is it's not enough to be a bad experience.

>have to plug it in to charge
Have to plug headphones in to listen to them

>battery runs out fast
Modern Bluetooth headsets are capable of 40 hours continuous use and can be charged up in a couple of hours

Now let's considering a couple of pros of Bluetooth earphones.

Cable length
>at minimum, 10m range from your device

>can use waterproof earphones without worrying about your phone or mp3 device

Stop living in the past, 2012 was 4 years ago and the memes against wireless headphones have expired.

>>56066845
I've only tried the apo EQ before and it's very fucking good. However I don't actually want to use one and I don't feel the need to with my current headphones.

That said I see where you're coming from. That does look like fun if it's sitting in front of you and you could casually slide the knobs up or down to suite your needs mid song to get a better feel. If it's terrible you could always send it back to amazon. It looks worth a punt to me.

>>56066820
When you are not using WASAPI, the music that you are listening is resampled if the DAC sample rate is not the same as the audio file sample rate.
Some of these resampling are lossy, as they need to use interpolation techniques. I'm sorry if my post is vague, I'm writing from the phone.

>>56067042
I don't know anything about WASAPI besides the fact that it's an audio option when I use my midi keyboard. Would the setting affect my keyboard?

Also for spotify and general flac use would you still recommend the 44100 over the 48000 and 96000 setting?

>>56067199
Use the native sampling rate of whatever file you're playing. WASAPI/ASIO will ensure bit-perfect playback.

>>56067271
Give it to me like a retard. Shoulg I be selecting 48000 for flac and less for spotify etc?

I can't be bothered to change the settings for different music players and formats.

>>56066200
>>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>>Wireless is frowned upon.
>>Headset requests are frowned upon.
>>Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>>If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"
Why is this dogshit post in every /hpg/?

Kill yourself

>>56065565
Neither

>>56066762
Hardware EQ is quite a bit inferior to a software solution. It has limitations the better software stuff doesn't have and does nothing better than the software in the first place. If your operating system and sound setup allows you to, use something like EQ APO. Ditch any embedded equalizer in media players.

>>56067546
A flac or a lossy file will both have whatever sampling rate it has. 95% of the time that's 44.1kHz. I don't remember if setting it higher in wondows just lets the file go through as its native sample rate or if it upsamples it to whatever you set. This is why I just use wasapi to forgo all that shit.

>>56065471
Akg K553 Pro headphones, are they worth it for $110?
I like a nice soundstage but just intend to plug them into my phone, not a DAC or Amp

>>56067686
>soundstage
>real

>worth
Up to you. Ideally those are V-shaped headphones but since they seal so inconsistently on different people, you might find them anything from very thing/bright to bassy. I don't recommend them without having a listen before as you don't really know whether they'll fit on your head to create a proper seal.

Your phone is a DAC and an amplifier. Probably not a very powerful amplifier but certainly enough to drive a pair of K553s.

>>56067728
I mean its the LG G5, if i was lucky I would be non USA and get the DAC attachment..
Soundstage isnt real?

>>56067564
Why is that dogshit in the op in every thread?

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Fug gee, the standard cable that came with my HD600 set is starting to cut out on one ear cuff. After about three years of heavy use I suppose it was bound to happen.

Is there anything I can do or should I just buy a new cable?
Any recommendations on a good cheap aftermarket cable?

>>56067822
You wouldn't have this problem with wireless :^)

>>56066542
Set DAC output to 24/44.1, use SoX resampler in your media player to resample everything that isn't 44.1kHz to 44.1kHz so you can use DirectSound without resampling and not have to deal with the bullshit that comes with WASAPI.

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>>56067841
Apple will fix our problems as usual (^:

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>>56067868
>headphones so hot they need heatsinks

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>>56067866
Forgot graph

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>>56067750
Despite not having some external fancy audio module, the phone still does DA-conversion as well as signal amplification. It is a DAC and an amplifier on its own.
>Soundstage isnt real?
Soundstage is real but strictly speaking only with loudspeakers. Headphones create a stereo image different from it which is sometimes referred to as "headstage" to separate it from loudspeaker soundstage. In both cases it's mostly affected by the mastering and not that much about the headphones themselves. Frequency response does affect it but then again, you can alter the FR easily on your own.

>>56067785
I had a thread ready without it but the anon who likes to force that garbage into the OP just to stir things up is autistic enough to time it immediately when the thread hits 310 posts.

>>56067822
>Any recommendations on a good cheap aftermarket cable?
China does some. Otherwise I think the official one is the cheapest. The rest of the ones I recall wax philosophical about the sound properties of the cable and cost about as much as the headphones themselves. If you go for the official cable, I'd recommend the HD 650 cable as it's built better and much nicer to bend. Should last a bit longer in use.

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>>56067921
>If you go for the official cable, I'd recommend the HD 650 cable as it's built better and much nicer to bend. Should last a bit longer in use.
Thanks. I would get a Chinese one but afraid it won't last so was wondering if there was one that was generally trusted.

>>56067634
How do you select 'wasapi' in general?

Like I said I only see that word when using my midi keyboard

>>56067822
>>56067942
Not him but the cheapest option you'd probably be looking at that isn't official cables or official Sennheiser ones would probably be something like bestintheverse or impactaudiocables on their etsy store.

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>>56067975
will check those out, thanks
wouldn't mind paying more for decent quality (I consider the official sennheiser ones decent)

>>56067942
I use a custom cut length 650 cable with 3.5mm end for my 600's from a UK site. If you're a bong i'll find the site for you.

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>>56067958
Should be an option in your media player.

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>>56068006
I'm from burgerstan unfortunately
Thanks anyway

>>56068022
Thanks for the help.

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>>56068022
Oh this reminds me, to add to >>56067866

If your DAC has ASIO support/drivers or ASIO4ALL works for you, you can set the ASIO output like pic related, have the SoX resampler in your DSP to resample everything to 44.1kHz. This way all your other audio will still play fine in the same stream and won't be cut off like it would with WASAPI. If you aren't resampling then the DAC will change to whatever the sample rate is on the fly and the moment it changes to something that isn't 44.1kHz it will cut off all your other sources.

>>56068029
No problem. Lovely headphone stand at least.

>>56066768
Don't feed the troll.

My Piston 3 is dead. Need new chink shit for 30-40$.
Need something with the same comfort like a Piston 3, but not new Piston, because them too much bass.
What do you think about Vsonic VSD1S, /g/?

>>56068081
Fun fact: the benchmark DACs resample all incoming audio anyway, to work with the filters & whatnot that they use. Same thing with the DAC1 I have, only at a lower frequency.

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/inside-the-dac2-part-2-digital-processing

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When in doubt, but the industry standard, amirite?

>>56068324
Most modern DACs oversample, the ones that don't are advertised as NOS or Non-Oversampling DACs.

My friend says his HD800s sound ethereal. What the fuck does that even mean?

>>56068599
audiofools like using special snowflake meme words to describe their gear's sound

my HD600s are muddy
I dragged them through the mud

>>56068330
what are your thoughts on them? I'm thinking about getting a pair

>>56068599
Sounds like he means it has a sense of "air" which usually means something is happening in the 14khz+ region but I don't know what he means exactly.

>>56068637
Is that why wireless is frowned upon?

>>56065941
Audio quality over Bluetooth is dropped really hard.

>>56068756
not with 4.0

>>56068756
Go back to /r/headphones retard, bluetooth is fine for audio playback.

Jesus, audiophiles are the dumbest people on this board.

>>56068829
didn't you know 'phile' iatin for 'autist'?

>>56068756
2012 called, they want their memes back

>>56068813
[citation needed]
We have at least one faggot who is an endless source of made up shit in support of wireless.

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>>56068756

>>56068925
>claims all bluetooth has worse audio quality with zero citation
>has the audacity to expect citation from others
fuck off reddit.

>>56068937
Would you like a citation or are you the same retard who rejected an article that proved bluetooth audio loses quality due to compression and rejected it because it is two years old?

>>56068925
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323

Dude

>>56068967
>http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323
>That said, it's still not as good as wired audio, and some people say it's still unacceptable overall.
Thank you for proving bluetooth, even 4.0, loses audio quality.

>>56068953
i'd like you to find something that proves the compression in bluetooth 4.0 or later has an audible impact.

and no, anecdotal evidence from head-fi is not citation. i'll wait.

>>56068997
>i'd like you to find something that proves the compression in bluetooth 4.0 or later has an audible impact.
Someone already provided a citation. See >>56068988

>>56069008
nobody cares about what that idiot linked, i'm still waiting for solid evidence to support your claims.

>>56068988
>there was a time where Bluetooth audio soundedterrible. Whether it was for headphones or speakers, Bluetooth just wasn't initially designed for high-quality audio. Times have changed however, and like most technologies, Bluetooth has quietly come a long way in the past several years.

Nice 2012 meme bruh

>>56068997
Oh, and let me provide even more.
>Cheap Bluetooth add-ons like the $25 Belkin Bluetooth Music Receiveror the $40 Logitech Wireless Speaker Adapter can stream tunes from a smartphone, iPod Touch, iPad, or other tablets sans wires. That's nice, but the processing sounds awful -- gritty harsh, limits bass oomph, and has unpleasant treble -- compared with just running a wire to the device
>I just trashed the sound of BT on the cheap, but even when it's used in higher-end gear like the $699 NAD Viso 1 iPod speaker, BT doesn't sound as good as a direct connection.
http://www.cnet.com/news/bluetooth-audio-vs-wires/>>56069019

>>56069019
>nobody cares
I await your evidence to the contrary. We have at least two citations the show bluetooth audio cause a loss of audio quality.

Now where's your citation that proves that it doesn't?

>>56069061
>cnet
here's your (You)
>Now where's your citation that proves that it doesn't?
you have yet to post a single valid citation. i'll wait. don't try to avoid posting one.

>>56069042
Yeah. There was a time. Even today it still isn't consider high fidelity from your own citation. You cite one part of the citation but disregard the other? Cherry-picking isn't a valid argument.

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>People ITT bitching about Bluetooth having inferior sound quality
Got these for $15 a year ago and they sound great
Don't knock it till you try it.

>>56069072
>you have yet to post a single valid citation
Translation:
>I've got nothing so I'll just call your citation invalid

Thanks for proving why "wireless is frowned upon."

>>56069097
>still can't provide citation
still waiting.

>>56069088
kek

>>56069088
Don't assume we knock it because we haven't tried it. If you have to have wireless the only sane suggestion is a wireless adapter with good wired headphones.

>>56069102
Wireless is frowned upon because those that advocate for it disregard citations that prove them wrong and cannot provide anything to the contrary.

>>56069082
Budget Bluetooth earphones sound as good as budget wired earphones and cost the same.
Sure, if you go into audiophile tier shit Bluetooth won't sound as good, but that's just like comparing flac and mp3.

Mp3 sounds pretty good, modern Bluetooth headphones sound pretty good.

>>56069123
>expecting citation when he can't provide citation
nice logical fallacy.

>>56069126
>Budget Bluetooth earphones sound as good as budget wired earphones and cost the same.
[citation needed]

>>56069138
Wireless is frowned upon because those that advocate for it disregard citations that prove them wrong and cannot provide anything to the contrary.

>>56069153
>expecting citation when he can't provide citation
nice logical fallacy

>>56067921
>I had a thread ready without it but the anon who likes to force that garbage into the OP just to stir things up is autistic enough to time it immediately when the thread hits 310 posts.
I have a feeling this is the same autistic AKG shill who wrote up a list of ways to identify the guy who called him out on his bullshit every time.

>>56069123
Oh fuck off you shitty troll

>>56069142
Any Modern budget Bluetooth headphone review

https://molotnikov.de/bluedio-hurricane-turbine

>>56069161
It seems you want to have the last word as well. Feel free to have it because even if you think they are not valid citations there aren't even invalid citations to support your position.

>>56069153
>Wireless is frowned upon because those that advocate for it disregard citations that prove them wrong and cannot provide anything to the contrary.
Same could be said for those who advocate against it.

>>56069214
hurry up and post your autismo 'it hurts to be right so often' line that you shit up the board with so we can ridicule you again for being as retarded as you are.

>>56069209
>Any Modern budget Bluetooth headphone review
I don't see any comparison to a similarly priced wired headphone. How is that review supporting the claim "sounds as good" if it doesn't compare it?

Hey guys, what's your opinion on ATH-A900?

>>56069253
Good sound stage. Easy to drive. Nice comfort. Anemic in the lower region.

>>56069253
>not wireless
Dropped.

>>56069278
So...like the MRS7?

>>56069307
Never tried the MSR7 so I couldn't say.

So what about that burn-in?

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fake listing? i reported them to ebay as fraudulent listing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322225246821

anybody gonna order it?

I'm looking for reviews on the old J Kenny DAC.
Any of you useless fuckos heard of or listened to one?

>>56069532
I'm not a fucko!

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Looking for some cheap (<$40) IEMs to go jogging with. Something like pic related or that wraps around the ear would be perfect. pls no bulli

So I guess nobody has tried streaming their music collection over mpd. Everyone who leaves their desk just uses Spotify. Right?

>>56069546
For jogging I'd say go with some cheaper Bluetooth ones like the bluedio n2.
Just my 2c

>>56069539
Maybe not, but you are useless.

and that makes you a fucko

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>>56069582
>Bluetooth
I'm frowning upon you!

>>56069752
Bluetooth has its uses. Just don't bring it up because there isn't any consensus on good bluetooth headphones and every discussion degenerates into name calling because we have at least one anon who tries to pick a fight and rejects inconvenient citations.

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Can I get a legit check on these Shures? I got them used on ebay and the seller wasn't sketchy and he's well received. I just wanna make sure.

>>56069207
>AKG shill
AKG shills tend to be weeaboos, that's why they buy their shitty animu headphones.

>>56070039
Looks real, don't recall those flanges coming with mines though.

>>56070039
http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3453/~/counterfeit-%28fake%29-shure-products

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>>56069965
>there isn't any consensus on good Bluetooth headphones

Yeah cause you fucks refuse to acknowledge them

>>56070101
>Bluetooth has its uses
>won't acknowledge them
Grow up and stop trying to pick a fight every time bluetooth is mentioned.

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>>56070039

>>56068599
etheral literally just means like "other worldly" or like too beautiful to be real man. He probably just meant it sounds great and you're reading into it too deeply

>>56070055
>>56070178

The flanges are my own. Don't shure pouches have the clip accessory to the right side or am I an idiot? Is this anything to worry about?

>Budget
$40 max

>Location
US

>Source
Phone/Laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
Only looking for IEMs. Have full sized headphones for home use already.

>Open or closed
Isolation is important for my use case scenario. I guess they don't need to be top class if it comes at the expense of sound quality, but I don't want leaking.

>Comfort level
Comfortable is pretty important

>Preferred tonal balance
I prefer a darker, warm headphone. "Sparkly" treble tends to give me headaches, so "smooth" highs are really what I'm looking for. A little bit of a bass hump is fine, but I'm not looking for something muddy.

>Past headphones
Superlux 668B(how I found out about my distaste for bright sound signature), Xiaomi Piston 3(Mostly just OK. Didn't really have a ton of thoughts on them), Fidelio X2(really love these), Sennheiser HD201.

>>56070327
E10

>>56070327
jvc ha fxt90
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-HA-FXT90-Twin-System-In-ner-Ear-Stereo-Headphone-From-Jvc-/162113945889?hash=item25bebe8121:g:RREAAOSwcBhWXA8n
not really dark but the best iems I ever got under 40 bucks

>china
they definitely sound legit, but don't come with a carrying bag seen in regular orders

>>56070111
You're agreeing with me?

>>56070397
>post acknowledges bluetooth has its uses
>BUT YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE!!!!!11!!!1
If you have ask you fail at basic reading comprehension.

Is there a difference between the HD498 and the HD598SE?

Google comes up with linus kek tips and some other nerd results that dont actually help

>>56070436
black color + extra short cable

>>56070430
I have to ask because this thread is full of sarcastic shitflinging audiophiles

>>56070436
>>56070449
ty

Also, is there anything currently better than the HD598s for the same price?

I do like the Sennheiser sound signature, but I'm always open to other options.

>>56070040
This was the K340 shill though.

I personally would only get bt headphones if the option to use a cord was still available. Thats why I'm looking at the MW60s right now but will wait until the upgrade to the 5.0 standard comes out.

>>56071038
The headphones some anon was shilling earlier has that option.
Bluedio ht or something like that

I've read that if you absolutely insist on having a headset you should make it a hyperx cloud. Is that a meme, or is it actually a decent if overpriced entry level pair of headphones with a microphone attached?

>>56071179
We still don't suggest getting a headset but the Cloud (not the 2) isn't overpriced.

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> $80 AUD
> Australia
> Laptop, Galaxy S5
> Earbuds
> Closed

>>56071179
It's a meme, in using a $5 piece of shit from my local chink shop and my friends are amazed at the sound quality of the mic.

Feels a little flimsy though, but idgaf for 5 dollars

>>56071230
Shit I mean IEMs

>>56071179
not a meme. if you MUST have a headset [you have to be fucking retarded to have this requirement] then they're alright. the original clouds are literally just rebranded takstars with a mic attached to them.

just buy a modmic or some other stinky chinky variant and slap it on some takstars or superlux if you really want a cheap, good sounding headset.

headsets are shit and always will be

Will Shure SE215 work well with phones/laptops?

>>56071337
Yes they've quite sensitive so you would be fine on power, however you'll probably hear some EMI noise from most laptops and some phones.

>>56071337
If the DAC isn't crap it will. But the only reason to get the SE215 instead of the MA750 is if you want detachable cables and in that case you should get the IM70.

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HD600 > HD800.

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>>56071381
Nice meme

>>56071375

MA750 is more expensive in AU

>>56071401
How much more expensive? It's only a difference of $20 here in the states.

>>56070538
look into the ad900x, which happens to be cheaper right now on amazon

>>56071407
SE215 is $95 and the MA750 is like $160

>>56071389
HD600 is the best dynamic headphone that money can buy right now.

>>56071289
Where I balk somewhat is the fact that modmic costs 50 goddamn dollars. I'd gladly pay 20, or 30. But 50? A cloud's only going to cost me 15 bucks more, and 15 dollar entry level headphones are a tall order even for /csg/.

>>56071428
Yeesh that's almost twice as much. How much do the IM70s cost in comparison?

>>56071493
>IM70s
$126

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>>56071451
Nice meme

>>56071525
If you don't mind spending the $30 I'd suggest it over the SE215.

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R8 my m50s

>>56071601
absolute shit

>>56071535
It's a fact though. HD600 has the highest fidelity of any dynamic headphone available to purchase right now.

Deal with it you angry cuckold.

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>>56071621
Well meme'd. Is Sennheiser paying shills more nowadays?

>>56071665
It's not a meme.

It's a simple fact. Don't like the HD600? Cool. Enjoy your colored garbage, friendo.

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>>56071689
Haha, nicely meme'd.

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>all these people bitching about which headphones are better
>meanwhile I'm just waiting for my super comfy budget Bluetooth earphones

Getting them mainly cause I'm curious since hpg shits on Bluetooth so much.

How bad can it be?

>>56071802
[FROWNING INTENSIFIES]

Now that I bought myself a set of industry-standard studio headphones, what am I supposed to do with them? The music sounds clearer of course, but it's still the same music. Did I just spend $80 for an accessible jack?

>>56071802
Keep me posted.

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>>56071802
>Bluetooth

>>56071830
Record yourself shitting violently and play it back with perfect clarity as you go to sleep

>>56071843
Is it weird that I actually want to try this?

>>56071802
>$9.90 for earphones allowed to be marked up because of muh features

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>>56071947
Well I'm actually prepared to be amazed or disappointed.

I bought $4 earphones on sale for $2 that sound shockingly close in sound quality to my dying vmoda remotes, build quality is very much worse though, but hey it was $2 so I'm not too fussed over that.

Pic related

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>>56071947
>adding features increases prices

Cry more faggot.

Looking some over ear headphones that I'll plug into a USB DAC for 24bit music between $130-$170.
I was thinking AKG K553 but how much external sound are you getting through open back headphones? A lot of sound like you aren't even wearing headphones or is everything around you slightly muffled?
If I'm being an idiot thinking the AKG ones will do me good what do you suggest?

When will sennshills realize that their headphones are now obsolete by the new Focal Elear/Utopia?

When will planar fags learn that dynamic is the superior technology with the fastest time/response?

When will /hpg/ realize that kilobuck headphones can sound infinitely better than their plastic toys?

When will audiophiles learn that tyll's opinion is the only objective truth?

Focal Elear/Utopia is KING

>>56072707
>Focal Elear/Utopia
veiled shit

if memers here think hd600 is veiled, wait till you hear these garbage

>>56071179
They are good headphones with a decent mic attached. You can do better of course but for how much they go for the HyperX Cloud isn't bad value at all.

When will we get an OP who isn't a turboautist?

WILL YOU FAGGOTS STOP SUGGESTING BLUETOOTH SHIT, IT HASN'T IMPROVED THE SLIGHTEST SINCE FUCKING 2012 IT'S JUST AS SHIT AS EVER.

Get real headphones you thick cunts

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>>56072814

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>>56072814

>>56072814
Suicide is the only option audiophile-kun.

$38 DT990s

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyerdynamic-DT990-PRO-250ohm-LIMITED-EDITION-Black-Straight-Cable-/322225246821

In the market for some over ear headphones.
>Budget <100 USD

>Location
United States
>Source
Phone, computer, tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear because I have enough in ear
>Open or closed
I'm not certain, I'm not autismo and would use this at home so I'm guessing open
>Comfort level
Important, I'm planning on using it for podcasts while doing other things, I'm tired of using my phone or tablet speaker.


>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past headphones
Some gam3r headset called sentry arches. They were really comfy and I overall like them, but they connect via USB and that rules out phone or tablet use. I have also used the piston 3's as my daily iems, I like the way those sound.

>>56072908
Guaranteed fake/scam

>>56072908
its still overpriced

>>56072909

Sennheiser HD 558.

>>56072932
Are these headphones comfortable with glasses on as well? I see after watching a review that the default requires a 3.5 mm adapter that comes with it. There are cables that plug straight into the headphones and 3.5 mm with no adapter right? The adapter looks like it is pretty beefy and easily damaged

>>56073049
Depends on the glasses, usually they will prevent you from having a good seal with any over-ear headphone.

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hey /g/, help me, im between the Shure SRH840 and the ATH-M50x, which one have better sound isolation, and are there any other for that price (200) that may be better? alos, you can replace the cord for both of them, is that right?

>>56073049
I'm a glasses wearer and have used the HD 595 for 6 years without any problems. They're more comfortable than many other flagships headphones.

As for the adapter. Look for something similiar to this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008JGWY2Y/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_23_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=21CJeDpqApL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C71_&psc=1&refRID=AR38GJT6RGEVXSKF7630

>>56065971
bump

>>56073206
SRH840 is probably better for isolation, maybe overall as well.

I got some Superlux HD668B like half a year ago and put some Velour pads on them, they sound great but holy fuck they hurt my head after a long time.

Wish I knew they're not big-head friendly.

>>56073230
Anything but Bluetooth.
Bluetooth is SHIT

>>56072908
>Economy Shipping from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan to worldwide
Lol.

>>56073393
Does that prevent the treble rape?

>Budget
At most 1200 for all audio equipment. Lower is preferred though, obviously. Just not at the expence of sound quality.
>Location
US
>Source
Doesn't matter. Whatever sounds best
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Either or both. Whatever. Maybe one for home, one for everywhere else?
>Comfort level
If it sounds good, I am fine with my ears being bloody after wearing them.
>Preferred tonal balance
Just want something that sounds close to real sound and I guess maybe bassy.
>Past headphones
ATH m50x and AKG Q701

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The HD 600 probably aren't the "best" headphones, but sure they are worth at their price. I prefer them over the beyerdynamic DT 880 PRO.

>>56073527
Expense* also I forgot to put what I liked about the headphones. I liked the sound I guess.

>>56073527
I would personally go for the Objective2+ODAC combo as source, and anything from the InnerFidelity's "Wall of Fame" Full-Size Open or Sealed.

>>56073591
Will the Objective2+ODAC run 250 Ohm headphones? Sorry, kinda new to the headphone thing.

>>56073739
Impedance is loosely connected to sensitivity. See Hifiman HE-6, being one of the hardest to drive headphones while being rated at 50 ohms.

O2 has plenty of power to run pretty much every headphone to more than loud, even at low gain.

>>56073535
Where do I subscribe?

>>56074102
r/g/

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>>56073535
for once some honesty

>>56074466
wow that's such a waste of money. Should have gotten the Elear.

>>56074477
I'm not into squeaking

>>56074477
Have you heard the Elear?

>>56074488
Yeah they completely blew away anything Mr.Speakers had at his booth. Just no contest really.

>>56074466
> HD650 instead of the superior HD600
> absolutely meme-tier AMP/DAC instead of Fiio E10K

I feel that r/headphones and headfi.com might be better Down communities for you.

>>56074466
>he fell for the wood cup meme.

>>56074531
Heh, I felt the opposite really. The Elears sound nice but didn't have the accuracy, detail or speed of the Ethers. IMO they're not even playing in the same league.

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>>56074573
> speed

>>56074488
comfort and feel matters

>>56074539
but the reddit poorfags can't stop fawning over the hd600
> implying that jan meier's crossfeed is a meme
> implying that a cheap chink amp that can power just about anything is a meme

>>56074573
You obviously didn't listen to the Elears.

>>56074466
Why do people buy into the hype? You bought almost every overhyped meme on the scene.

>>56065471
>Budget
100-130 eur/usd
>Location
EU
>Source
various (laptop/smartphone/pc)
>Preferred type of headphone
doesn't matter
>Open or closed
doesn't matter either
>Comfort level
somewhat important, I'll take what I can get
>Preferred tonal balance
doesnt matter
>Past headphones
urbanears

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>>56074593
>his headphones aren't tuned to 240 HP at 11,000 rpm

>>56074791
What's the fastest headphone?

>>56074849
Up spectrum or down spectrum?

>>56074872
Both?

>>56074890
Can't have it both ways. Down spectrum you want something with a light responsive driver while up spectrum you want something heavier and more powerful.

>>56074909
Down.

>>56074872
Down syndrome spectrum

>>56074745
>>56074745
bump

>>56074849
None other than the Stax SR-009, introduced mid-2011, flagship, full-size open electrostatic headphones.

Bass Texture - Other than being a little less hefty than I'd like (just a little), the extension was very, very good, and the texture was simply breathtaking. Felt like I heard the spit on the lips of the tuba player. Spectacularly clear.

Bass Slam - Holy moly! These hit amazingly hard. Yes, the lowest two octaves are a bit shelved down, but my goodness they rock!

Midrange - Hey! How did these people get into my house! The realism with the SR-009 is incredible! (Hang on a sec, I've got to write a sentence without and exclamation point.) The seamless coherence between mids and highs deliver a stunningly realistic presentation I've simply not heard a voice so convincingly real on headphones before. Stunning! Simply stunning!

Treble - Damn! I'm running out of superlatives. I'm super sensitive to trouble in the treble, and I'm floored by being able to hear a strong sense of speed and treble energy without it sounding strident in the least. The sense of coherent high frequency sound is extraordinary; everything is more than natural and organic, it's simply sounds like you're there. Wow again!

Dynamics - Come on! When are these cans going to show a weakness? On the other headphones the Flamenco guitar strums are punchy, but here it's as if you can hear each string of the strum individually hit, and then add their voices together with a musicality of impact I've heard on no other can.

Imaging - Finally! (Still using exclamation marks, though.) The 009 is bested handily with regard to imaging by the HD 800. However, these are no slouch, and great depth and width are realized; separation and depth are very good. Without the HD 800 within arms reach for comparison, I would find these a spectacularly immersive listening experience.

>>56074986
>a little less hefty than I'd like
>I'm super sensitive to trouble in the treble
I see. That's why HE1000 is on the WoF.

>>56074849

None other than the Focal Utopia/Elear, introduced 2016, flagship, full-size open dynamic headphones.

Bass Texture - the extension is superb and the texture was simply breathtaking. Felt like I heard the spit on the lips of the tuba player. Spectacularly clear.

Bass Slam - Holy moly! These hit amazingly hard. My goodness they rock!

Midrange - Hey! How did these people get into my house! The realism with the Focal Elear/Utopia is incredible! The seamless coherence between mids and highs deliver a stunningly realistic presentation I've simply not heard a voice so convincingly real on headphones before. Stunning! Simply stunning!

Treble - Damn! I'm running out of superlatives. I'm super sensitive to trouble in the treble, and I'm floored by being able to hear a strong sense of speed and treble energy without it sounding strident in the least. The sense of coherent high frequency sound is extraordinary; everything is more than natural and organic, it's simply sounds like you're there. Wow again!

Dynamics - Come on! When are these cans going to show a weakness? On the other headphones the Flamenco guitar strums are punchy, but here it's as if you can hear each string of the strum individually hit, and then add their voices together with a musicality of impact I've heard on no other can.

Imaging - The Elear/Utopia bested the HD 800. However, these are no slouch, and great depth and width are realized; separation and depth are very good. With the HD 800 within arms reach for comparison, I find these a spectacularly immersive listening experience.

>>56075828
> cheese eating surrender monkeys in charge of headphones

>>56074745
SHP 9500
AD 700x/900x
BrainWavs HM5

>>56065471
>Budget
£50-£70 (Willing to make a jump if there's a quality gap)
>Location
UK
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed headphones or IEMs
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible without sacrificing quality

Looking for a headset for my PS4


>Budget
Less than $100 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
PS4
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Headset
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
decent
>Preferred tonal balance
doesnt matter
>Past headphones
I've never had a gaming headset before

>>56077050
Plantronics RIG 500E

>>56065971
Status audio hdtwo's are a gook pick in that price range

>>56076786
Shure SE215

>All these meme headphones like Elear, Utopia, HD800, SR009 and Ether

Still aren't as high fidelity as a lowly $300 poorfag HD600.

This hobby isn't going anywhere, it's been stuck at the same place since the early 90s.

These manufacturers are just setting a high price on their products to create a perception of higher quality. People who buy these garbage are literally getting meme'd and the funny thing is that people who usually buy them are poor. Headphone audiophiles aren't exactly rich, there's a minority that are but the majority are poorfags who can't own a decent speaker setup.

>>56078066
DELETE THIS

>Budget
<80 US$
>Location
USA
>Source
Android Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
In-Ear
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Decent enough, I'll be wearing it for around 2 hours everyday when I take the train.
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
I currently have the ATH-M50, I use it with my computer, completely impractical when it comes to travelling with it

Dumb question

But are there any earBUDS like the apple earpods, the new ones that is.

that has the "same" shape, but works with fucking android, with in line mic, volume and good quality?

theyre so fucking comfy..

>>56078737
There's a good deal for GR07s on ebay for like $65. 4 hours left of bidding

If you don't get that, E10s or Hifi re 400 are two good options. Or just get some chink shit Rock Zircons or KZ ATEs

Or etymotic mc2/3/5 if you want ear dildos

>260
>Motherboard
>Closed
>High
>Neutral

Prefer headphones with changeable cabel

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>>56078804
forgot image to draw attention

>>56078833
I'll look into that, thanks man!

>>56078066
And that's why you should own the hd600 as your only headphone.

>>56078066
rich speaker audiophiles look for headphones that sound similar to their speakers. hd600 are nowhere near this.

>>56078840
NAD HP50

>>56065471
The XTY mic recommended on the wiki is unavailable, what's a good alternative?

>>56074909
Nice pseudoscience.

>>56080375
It's not pseudoscience. It's a joke based upon the anime.

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>>56080546
Comforting desu.

>>56065673
Denon D2000.

Find them second-hand.

Looking for good Iem recommendations for sports environments, prefer a balanced range as my musical taste is eclectic, was previously recommended mee m6 but dislike the idea of detachable cables as i think that they would frequently disconnect.

>>56081611
Fill out the form.

>>56082204


Budget - €30-70

Location - Ireland

Source - Android / fiio e17

Preferred type of headphone - IEM

Comfort level - As long as they can stay in my ears that's good enough.

Preferred tonal balance enjoy warm signatures but would prefer a neutral balance

Past headphones: Thinksound ms01 x2 both lasted around 6 months, enjoyed the signature greatly but seeking something that won't cost me so much money every year solely for replacements.

>>56065471
>wireless is frowned upon
>asking for opinions is frowned upon
>headsets are frowned upon
For what purpose?

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>>56082272
There have been many discussion and those topics tend to degenerate into name calling. Of recent we've had at least one guy who wants to pick a fight anytime bluetooth is mentioned and rejects citations out of hand.

>>56082272
Because OP is a faggot.

>>56082295
Bluetooth is great though, I love my Bluetooth headphones,they're so much more convenient than wired.

What about the other 2 points though? Opinions and headsets?

>>56082485
What part of there have been MANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE THREE AND THEY DEGENERATE INTO NAME CALLING did you not understand?

>>56082507
Oh, sorry, I thought you only meant the wireless because you brought up the Bluetooth guy.

Why even include those in the op though if that's all it leads to?

Looking for a good affordable microphone for CSGO.

On a Linux system, but whatever you find is probably compatible.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_1_1_hso_sc_smartcategory_3?rh=n%3A3015406011%2Ck%3Amicrophone&keywords=microphone&ie=UTF8&qid=1471212097&sr=8-1-acs

Too many to choose from.

>>56082582
>Why even include those in the op though if that's all it leads to?
What do you mean? D you think it would be fair if we did not give forewarning to newcomers to the thread? We should just let them be blindsided due to their own ignorance of the past history of /hpg/?

>>56082603
>forewarning to newcomers
Warning of what?

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>>56082666
Are you new to 4chan? Perhaps if you aren't familiar with the nature of 4chan's posters you should leave, newfag. Pic related is a prime example of the shit you are trying to stir up and does little to benefit the thread.

>>56082603
What are you warning against though?

>>56082601
Microphones are very much not headphones.

>>56082728
Fuck off, newfag.

>>56082703
>Are you new to 4chan?
No. Would it matter if I were? No.
>Pic related is a prime example of the shit you are trying to stir up and does little to benefit the thread.
I'm not stirring up anything here and that image as well as others alike are cancer. Same goes for the lines included in the OP.

>>56079616
Audiophile speakers are garbage though.

Studio speakers are the real deal.

>>56082703
Headsets are great though, I use a cheap LG one for skype and in game chat. It's comfy af.

What would you recommend instead?

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>>56082703
>of the shit you are trying to stir up

>keeps responding to other anon

Very unironic

>>56082753
>No.
No one is going to believe this shit, newfag.

>I'm not stirring up anything here
Then why are you asking the same question over and over again when the answer is obvious to anyone who isn't a newfag? No one is here to spoonfeed you and yet you refuse to get the message. So you can fuck off.

>>56082776
Am I a bad person if I enjoy giving rope to idiots so they can publicly hang themself on a public forum?

>>56082786
>implying it's just one person
Also why does it matter how new anyone is?
>>>/b/

>>56082786
>No one is going to believe this shit, newfag.
Amusing.
>Then why are you asking the same question over and over again
Was the first time I ever asked that but ok.
>So you can fuck off.
I'm here because I didn't get an answer and you keep replying.

What got you so riled up?

>>56082809
>am I a bad person
No, just autistic

>>56082822
>I'm here because I didn't get an answer and you keep replying.
Feel free to fuck off you don't get an answer. Only a newfag redditor would believe by this point you are going to get an answer. More likely you're just a thirteen year old who needs to have the last word.

>>56082851
(you)

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>>56082851

>>56082822
He's probably op

>>56082872
>>56082870
This conversation is completely pointless at this time and you are still responding. For my own enjoyment let's prove you are thirteen years old. You will prove me right, and give me great pleasure my responding to this post and the next one of "It almost hurts to be right so often."

>>56082907
>you are still responding

Wireless headphones are fine. It's 2016.

>>56082907
You are one edgy faggot.
>>>/reddit/

>>56082913
It almost hurts to be right so often.

>>56065565
V6.

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>>56082921

>>56082918
It almost hurts to be right so often.

A little early because fuck op

>>56082927
>>56082927
>>56082927

>>56082939
Thanks anon.

>>56082939
Thank you.

>>56068643
Not him, but I love them. Incredibly neutral for the price.
Only cons are that you may want to EQ if you are sensitive to treble and the pads are garbage.

>>56082939
Fuck I made a thread.

>>56082931
Thank you. I feel great that you prove me right. You had control over proving me wrong and preventing me from having this enjoyment I now feel but you are too immature to stop posting.

>>56082939
You should at least wait for bump limit and not be a faggot.

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>>56082969
>you are too immature to stop posting

>>56082939
>>56083002
kek
You must be the same fag who made the wireless hpg.

>>56078804
not that I know of

>>56083074
It is pretty obvious he is the samefag. It was suggested he create a new thread like last time but gave up since last time it went to archive after only thirty or so posts.

>>56083090
fuck

iem, or as i like to call them, ear dildos, suck ass.

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>Budget
max 200$
>Location
Chile
>Source
Computer, HTC 10
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
very comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy or warm
>Past headphones
E10, sennheiser 439 (didn't like them very much), some Fischer audio russian knock-off headphones I got cucked into buying.

>>56083473
Budget is also flexible if it's something really good.

>>56074671
>Your opinion isn't the same as mine so you must be wrong!
I did and I listened to the Utopia which is excellent and a far better value than the HE-1000, but that's in another price bracket from the Elear and Flows. The Elear sounds sloppy next to the Flows but that doesn't mean it's bad, just not well suited for certain types of music IMO.

>>56074593
>what is transient response

Colloquially, speed refers to transient response which itself most of time refers to the perceived delta of a high frequency response but it could be from any frequency technically.

Since you're a bit ignorant you should read up on it: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2