/hpg/ - Headphone General

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second for best speakers under 100 bucks

http://www.strawpoll.me/10978229

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IR orgy

>when one misinformed cuck anon tried to meme me into getting bookshelf speakers but then that other anon rekt his shit and saved me and got me to buy studio monitors

>>56049258
Should be a M50x on top the HD598.

>>56049246
We had something like that previously when we had two /hpg/ threads at the same time. One with the addition and one without. The one without went to archive after only two posts.

You lost. Get over it.

>>56049297
>fucking outside your product line
Gross

It's going to be another eternal battle between that HD600 shill and K702 shill all over again isn't it?

>>56049350
It feels a bit lacking. We need a DT880 shill as well.

>>56049289
From what I see it's just two misinformed cucks railing against one another. It's a classic subjectivity vs objectivity all over again except this is a hobby that deals with a lot of subjectivity in the first place.

>>56049432
>this is a hobby that deals with a lot of subjectivity in the first place.
Hey, man. Don't say sensible things like that. You'll anger hardcore objectivists.

>>56049297

That's kind of the point.

>>56049246
4 votes against this cancer, lets not have that shit in the OP again.

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>>56049490
You are forgetting most /hpg/ OP's are weaboo autistic,elitist manchildren.

Their perfect would only have m50x,AKG K7XX,HD600/650,MDRv6/7something,DT770/880/990

Shit would be boring,but theyre too fucking retarded to understand.

Ordering the DT 990's and unsure what amp to get, will the Fiio e10k be alright?

I can't seem to find anything else in the £50-60 range which can power 250 ohm headphones.

>>56049561
At that price range I'm pretty sure it will be the best option. The E10 will deliver enough volume to make you deaf, and I would say it can even drive loud enough the 600 ohm version.

>>56049149
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nice

Looking for ear speakers
>Budget
$150 max
>Location
USA
>Source
Android phone or rockboxed clip+
>Preferred type of headphone
iem
>Comfort level
super comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy-ish
>Past headphones
Klipsch s4 (great iem's imo, but I've gone through 3 already, each one losing a channel after a few months)

I'm starting uni this year, so something comfy to wear to class is ideal.
Thanks guys

>>56049350
HD600 master race.
>>56049362
Anon, DT880 is obsolete.

>>56049841
>Anon, DT880 is obsolete.
What eclipsed it? Are you just trying to remove it from the big three because of personal opinion?

>>56049871
I kid, DT880 is the only acceptable alternative to the HD600 IMO.

>Budget
Around $300
>Location
US
>Source
O2/ODAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy :3
>Preferred tonal balance
Lots of sub-bass without mid-bass bloat, relatively flat midrange and treble
>Past headphones
DT770 (returned)

DT770 sounded nicely but was too uncomfortable. I listen to meme music like Eurobeat.

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Who else /memed/ here?

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

>>56050076
why?

>>56050089
I don't need to explain myself. Never reply to me ever again.

>>56050163
why?

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>>56049350
Reporting in.

>>56049841
HD600 a shit.

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>>56050215

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>>56050215
I don't give a FUCK about AKG vs senn stuff but;

That cable has a nice stress relief on it,wat cable is that?

>>56050256
That's the default Q701 cable.

>>56050256
Electrostatic speakers are a huge meme.

Does anyone know if studio monitor speakers like rokit 5 or jbl lsr305 become extremely discounted on Boxing Day? Similar to how there are specific known headphones that become discounted every Boxing Day

>>56050285
>falling for the studio monitor meme

It's not too late before you make a fatal mistake anon.

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>>56050076
Reporting in.

>>56050304
Studio monitor is a phrase that indicates neutral response. It's useful for music production. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>56050277
More like martin logans are just overpriced and overrated. There are DIY estat speaker designs you can find out there.

>>56050076
pic unrelated

>>56050304
Why wouldn't I want superior sound hearing music the way the producer intended it to be heard

>>56050342
estat loudspeakers just aren't good at all. they're a nice gimmick at best

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>>56050076
If your source components are smaller than your headphones, you have failed as humans.

>>56050285
No, consumers typically don't buy them so they rarely get large discounts. You might get a small discount on it however.

>>56050304
>bookshelf faggot
kys

>>56050320
What the actual fuck?

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>>56050333
>Studio monitor is a phrase that indicates neutral response.

>>56050352
You mean like the producer intended it to be heard with dynamically squashed brickwalled albums like Metallica's Death Magnetic?

Not the same anon but you seem to labor under some retarded notion that producers don't screw up or that people might want a different sound than the producer mastered.

>>56050365
Nothing wrong with planar drivers for speakers. There just needs to be a company that does them right without charging car money for them.

>>56050367
Oh okay thanks
>>56050379
Go watch your bass boosted YouTube mixes bookshelf cuck

>>56050385
>d doesn't sound noticeably worse.
Kek

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Watching you poor cunts argue whether your shitty JBL or KRK "studio monitors" are good or not is hilarious.

>>56050333

Not necessarily, but typically studio monitors are better quality than their bookshelf counterparts. There are exceptions to the rule on both sides.

>>56050385
It's just a dumb meme on the OP. Wireless is fine, it will only get better from now.

>>56050383
they are inferior to electrodynamics by a longshot, there's a reason why the majority of top manufacutrers don't use them at all.

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>>56050408
Your DAC is wasted on those speakers, they sound terrible.

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>>56050320
>That knob.
>That tiny headphone in the center.

>>56049835
Anyone have any reccs for my post?

>>56050408
Huh the funniest thing is that you blew your entire budget on those that the rest of your equipment is complete shit lol nice monitor poorfag

>>56050429
Said someone with that piece of shit HD800S. :^)

>>56050408
Terrible speakers.
>>56050429
Terrible headphones.

Both of you faggots need to put the Benchmark DACs to good use.

>>56050429

To be fair I don't think you're in any position to say that because you fell for the HD800 meme.

>>56050394
>Go watch your bass boosted YouTube mixes bookshelf cuck
Typical. When you cannot argue the post insult the poster.

Typical and pathetic.

>>56050443
RHA MA750

>>56050467
Unlike the LS50 you can't find better headphones for $100 than the HD800. I'm willing to bet those Scythe speakers sound better based on what I heard when listening to the LS50.

>>56050477
Thanks anon, I'll check this out.

>>56049974
I, too, find them uncomfortable but I think its because I'm used way too much to open headphones. These feel like are trying to blow air through my ears or create pressure I just don't know whats the deal with that. I'll probably return them

Not memeing but what's wrong with the KEF LS50? I'm pretty sure that they are well received by almost all publications and reviews.

>>56050483
>you can't find better headphones for $100 than the HD800
Sony MDR-7506, Etymotic MK5.

Where's my prize?

>>56050485
Are you the same retard from the last thread who tried to reject an article explaining how bluetooth sounds worse because the article was two years old?

>>56050518
>MDR-7506
You tried, I'll give you that.
>MK5
Headphones, not IEMs. Everyone knows headphones can never match IEM accuracy.

>>56050515
It's bright af

>>56050515
I find them to be unnaturally bright, esp. in the low mid to low treble region.

>>56050553
>>56050572

Sounds like you're under-powering them.

>>56050515
It's a typical audiophile bookshelf speaker.

Nice aesthetic design, prestigious branding.

But shit sound quality.

>>56050586
>my amp made these terrible speakers sound not terrible
Yeah okay.

I have a Sony SBH20 the headphones are detachable with 3.5 jack, after a year of constant use the left one is muffled a little bit and I wnt to replace them with similar cable length (1m)

>>56050470
You're the one saying you don't want to hear music how it's intended to be heard so I thought bass boosted YouTube trap music mixes would be for you

>>56050586
nah, I don't own that garbage

it was powered adequately

>>56050622
It's not powered adequately until you use a terrible sounding McIntosh amp amirite

Two wrongs make a right after all

>>56050634
amps don't really make a difference on sound quality though, no matter the amp ls50 are shit speakers

>>56050569
>Not even that guy but 2 years is a long time for technology.
Let me ask you what area of technology has improved so quickly that information from two years ago is no longer credible or relevant?

GPUs, one of the fastest moving was stuck at one node for five years and made incremental improvements. Haswell CPUs are still cutting edge because Broadwell and Sky Lake aren't a significant improvement. We're still using the same wireless standards from over a decade ago with few wireless evolutionary steps.

>>56050652
You clearly haven't heard a McIntosh amp then because they manage to make everything sound garbage.

>>56050667
>Sandy Bridge CPUs are still cutting edge because Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake aren't a significant improvement
You can thank Intel for being the jews that they are.

>>56050277
>>56050342
>>56050365
D-dudes I just picked a rando image on google searching for electrostat speakers.

NO BULLY! :^(

>>56050612
>You're the one saying you don't want to hear music how it's intended to be heard
No. I'm the one saying that what was intended to is often not the best way to enjoy music. Your appeal to authority is not only fallacious it is ridiculous.

>>56050671
How so? I heard them quite a bit of times, there's even a few at my local best buy.

>>56050691
Do you agree that saying an article is two years old is a trivial objection?

>>56050702
Everything sounds like mud on them.

>>56050691
I got rid of my 2500K, it's still competent but the Haswell CPU performs better in games like ARMA 3 and the like. Then again, it's the garbage optimization at fault.

>>56050715
Different anon.

>>56050691
>You can thank Intel for being the jews that they are.
And AMD for being an incompetent bunch of retards that can't make a competitive product to save their life.

But let's not turn this thread into an AMD vs Intel debate.

>>56050717
High output impedance?

Posting for a friend who is too retarded to into 4chan
>Budget
25$
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Irrelevant
>Preferred tonal balance
V
>Past headphones
Shitty skullcandy buds that break after 3 weeks, some shit he found off gearbest (awei es 120i) that he liked.

Other then the obvious entry level panasonic/monoprice, what earbud/iem is gud and wont take a month to get from china?

Where do you guys buy your used gear? Amazon and ebay are overpriced.

>>56050744
Just like GCN, they invested too far into the future and it backfired on them, lucky for them low level APIs in graphics are actually picking up while on the CPU side of things single threaded performance is still a huge factor.

>>56050752
And shit tubes.

>>56050779
http://theheadphonelist.com/earphone-buyers-guide/

>>56050789
Head-fi usually.

>>56050729
Did I say you were the same one or did I ask if you, even if you are a different anon, agree?

>>56050749
>Let's see, in the last 2 years we've gone from gtx 960 to gtx 1060.
We should ignore the five years of gpus stuck at 28nm and that five years is longer than two years because those five years finally came to an end? We should ignore that it took more than five years to have something other than an incremental increase in gpu performance? Ever heard of the cherry-picking fallacy?

>>56050825
I don't care enough to get that involved in your debate, sorry.

>>56050813
>http://theheadphonelist.com/earphone-buyers-guide/
thanks m8

>>56050780
>i5 2500
That's Sandy Bridge. Five years ago. More than twice the objection's two years.

>>56050833
Then the point stands. Objecting purely on the basis of the age of the article is trivial without demonstrating a significant technological improvement has occurred in the matter being objected to.

>>56050383
Limited excursion and dynamic range. Poorly controlled directivity on most, and inherent lower frequency cancellation.
Difficulty of maintenance in areas with high humidity

>>56050515
Middling off axis performance, lacks bass extension. Modulation arises as a potential issue if these are played loudly. These would be expected of most small 2-way coax drivers.
Since people are evidently averse to EQ, it has an on-axis amplitude bump from 2-5 kHz and a dip between 1-2kHz.

>>56050886
>What does nm have to do with architectural improvements?
>architectural improvements
Where was there any claim about architectural improvements? I believe the point has been about "incremental improvements" or "still cutting edge." Are you trying to erect a straw man argument or just lose track of the point?

>>56050515
/g/ hates them because they can't afford them. Same deal with headphones costing more than $300 and amps and DACs other than the entry-level Schiit stack.

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>>56050916
>Skylake has no improvements over haswell, absolutely none :^)
Like 5% clock for clock.

I own a 4790K, will wait for cannon lake or something.

Fastest gaming CPU is still the 5775C.

>>56050916
>Skylake has no improvements over haswell
Straw man. The claim was "haswell is still cutting edge" There is little to no improvements in comparing the top of the line "or cutting edge" i5-4690k and i7-4790k versus the i5-6600k and the i7-6700k.

htc is offering their JBL noise-cancelling IEMs if yu buy the phone. Has anyone tried them yet? Are they actually worth $199?

>>56050937
Wasn't it slower clock for clock? Wait sorry not that was Pascal compared to Maxwell :^)

>>56050694
Go listen to your nigger bass boost shit then cuck I'll listen to music how it's intended to be produced by the artist themselves instead of listening to some armchair neckbeard DJ thinking he can improve on their work

>>56050960
>So you're saying every 28nm gpu is still cutting edge
Do you honestly fail this much at basic reading comprehension that conflate to clearly and easily determined separate clauses? I expect you are confusing the two on purpose. It is pretty clear that "cutting edge" was used after a clear transition from gpus to cpus.

>>56050973
Clock for clock, Skylake wins, then Broadwell then Haswell.

Pascal seems to be slower clock for clock, but the architecture differences and the die shrink means higher clock speeds.

>>56050977
Resorting to your favorite tactic of attacking the poster again? If you cannot handle disagreement on 4chan might I suggest you stop posting? At least that way you'll feel less anal anguish.

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>>56050890
Could always do something like this, and use a small estat panel as a tweeter.

>>56051001
>but the architecture differences
There are no architecture differences, the clock speeds come straight from the node shrink. They don't call it Paxwell for no reason.

>>56051002
>There's improvements in igpu
I see I wasted my time providing a clear distinction between CPUs and GPUs as you are determined to conflate them.
>Are you trying to claim there's been no progress in technology for the past 2 years
Because being stuck in the same node for five years includes the new Polaris and Pascal architectures.

Either you are ignorant of technology and shouldn't be making any comments on it or fail at basic reading comprehension.

I'm done wasting time reading any further responses.

>>56051082
>implying anyone who can afford a cutting cpu is going to use the igpu
Kys

>>56051146
>My post isn't irrelevant because I say so
Grow up.

>>56051020
Why did we want an electrostatic panel to start with? Why pick it over a ribbon?


>>56050921
There's no such thing as a good enough product acoustically. There are tradeoffs that must be made with little spare margin of "good enough" performance to be given up.
There are many other alternative speakers to be bought at a similar price range, some of which people do own.
In the electrical domain, desktop audio is easy. It is a solved problem that can be well handled for little expense.

>>56051253
Why would we "bemoan the loss of 3.5mm jack?" Discrete DAPs are a superior choice to smartphones.

>>56051253
>normie shit tier iDevice is only compatible with normie shit tier wireless devices
Color me shocked.

>>56051302
Sure thing, Edison. Your electric chair is better than good old fashioned hangings even though it isn't as definitive or reliable and requires higher maintenance, is more expensive and (what was the other con from the last thread again?)

Well I guess that blows the joke that illuminates how idiotic to believe newer technology is always better.

>>56051360
More like this seems like some ploy to sell lightning to 3.5mm adapters, and of course circlejerk about how 'slim' the phone is. As if having the slimmest phone is the be all & end all. Fucking normies.

Hey guys, I really like doing jumping jacks while listening to Eye of the Tiger in the best sound quality possible.

Recommendations for portable and convenient setups? Price is no object.

>>56049432
desu i think the other anon knew his shit this time and made it clear what was important and worth considering while ignoring irrelevant shit like the passive/active nature of the loudspeakers or whether they were marketed as "studio monitors"

>>56051416
I feel sorry for you if you only enjoy music while doing jumping jacks.

do hearing aids count? two days ago I woke up with no low-end sound in my right ear. what's the /g/ recommended hearing aid?

>>56051439
You should see an audiologist (they offer free hearing tests) rather than asking a bunch of anons on 4chan.

>>56050076
I do so I don't end up like the picture you posted there.

>>56050366
>listening to schizophonic sources
Failing this hard as a human.

>>56051459
It's not like the shitty DAC in the phone was changed at all. In fact all you'd be doing is adding the shitty DAC inside the cup of whatever wireless headphones used into the mix as well.

>>56051459
>this won't offer better sound quality than the shitty dac built into the phone
The adapter only serves to provide the appropriate connection as USB already carries an analog audio signal.

>>56051435
I never said only. Why do you think I meant only?

I'm wondering :are there any smartphones that can be used as external DACs in a pinch?

>>56051468
>I never said only.
Because you only presented one specific circumstance. One that would normally be a miniscule proportion of your daily listening session(s). These leave but two conclusions.
A) You only need headphones (and thus don't have speakers) when doing jumping jacks; or
B) You are making shit up to support an idiotic position.

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I want to upgrade my GPU soon, but I'm having a dilemma. Should I keep my two 144 hz 1080p panels or get two 144 hz 1440p panels ( or get 60hz 1440p with good color reproduction) ? Also, would a GTX 1080 be enough for 144 hz 1440p (obviously it can't run every game north of 100 fps) or should I wait for 1080 Ti/ 1180?

>>56051459
Most phone DACs work fairly well these days.
I don't trust most people to know the difference between the DAC and integrated amplifier.

>>56051496
What do you mean by that?
If you mean to use it as a portable music player they can work (depends on the unit), but as for streaming through USB, I do not know of any.

>>56051531
Thank you for proving B was correct.

>>56051502
You assumed too much.

I wanted purchase advice only for that situation, sure, but nowhere does that mean that's the only situation wherein I listen to music, or that whatever setup is recommended is the only setup I'd use throughout my day.

Relax, man. Do some jumping jacks.

>>56050515
What >>56050890 said. They are not that good and you can do a lot better for the price and heck of a lot better overall.

>>56051542
Mobo only does crossfire not SLI.

>>56051537
>streaming through USB
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. Like if I were only carrying my phone and laptop, but for some reason wanted to listen to something on my laptop, with my phone's SQ.

>>56051556
Well you cannot be concerned about being noisy as jumping jacks creates a lot of thumping so there's no need for headphones. Why don't you just use your speakers of existing headphones that you use all the rest of the time? You can coil up the wire and use an old sock or rag if you cannot afford an arm-band holder for your smartphone or DAP if you have a REAL issue with the wire flopping about.

Or is your desire really to advocate for the electric chair, Edison?

>>56051601
>Why don't you just use your speakers *or existing headphones

Am I a bad man for spending so much time helping idiots paint themselves into corners?

>>56050586
>>56050921
Sounds like a bunch of horseshit excuses when you have no argument.

>>56051601
Why do you think I have any speakers at all?

I live on the ground floor so thumping on the floor doesn't matter, but when I had my speakers and used them, I woke up my next-door neighbor's babies. Nightmare, I tell you.

>electric chair
I don't care about chairs, idiot, I'm doing jumping jacks.

>>56051626
Might I suggest you stop posting if you don't have thick enough skin to handle disagreement?

>>56051617
DESU I've only bought Nvidia hardware. I really like shadowplay. Would my PSU even handle two 480s? It's a corsair AX 760. Is it quality enough?

>>56051645
>Why do you think I have any speakers at all?
I don't. I also included headphones in the response.

>I live on the ground floor so thumping
The thumping noises from jumping isn't just as loud, if not louder, than your normal listening sessions with your existing headphones?

I note how you did not address suggestion to increase convenience with wired headphones. Am I wrong in suspecting you are wed to the notion of wireless headphones even though you can almost as much convenience (if not arguably more) without spending a dime? You want to buy something not for its convenience but for something else?

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What pmp should I buy?

>>56051714
Budget?
Any desired features of note?

>>56051528
Often times very high fps is CPU bottlenecked. I use a PG279Q with a GTX 1080 and I play most games 60Hz 2560x1440. FPS is when I run it 144Hz.

>>56051737
>PG279Q
>60hz
Why are you intentionally turning down your monitor's refresh rate?

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>>56051737
Here's my PC ( currently). I'm not sure If I could get rid of my mobo I'm too attached to it.

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>>56051725
unlimited budget
good hardware/software

>>56051782
When my pc had a GTX 650 I had a cx 500 and it worked fine for years.

>>56051796
Sorry but I cannot take you seriously if that is your response.

>>56051758
Because I like to play video games at a silky smooth fps with no frame drops. I also think G-SYNC is shit.
>>56051776
The CPU and mobo is fine, the PG279Q is excellent but it's a lottery atm.

>>56051703
>headphones
Oh, I see that now.

>>56051703
No, it isn't.
I don't like wearing old socks on my arm, that's ridiculous. Coiled wires are unseemly.

I get the feeling you're not trying to be helpful at all.

>>56051818
>smooth fps with no frame drops
Are you retarded? You don't get frame drops if the refresh rate of your monitor is faster than the fps of the game. In fact you WILL DROP frames if the performance is faster than the refresh rate.

>>56051823
>are unseemly.
Thank you for proving that it isn't about convenience.

>I get the feeling you're not trying to be helpful at all.
You're right. I don't see any reason to be helpful when I suspect someone is posting under false pretenses. And your response proves that to me.

>>56051839
>what is judder

You don't seem to understand, I run my monitor at 60Hz and a select few games run at 144Hz.

By locking the game on a 60Hz monitor with Vsync the game runs silky smooth, the only other refresh rate option this would work on is 120Hz.

I also leave it on 60Hz for better compatibility.

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>>56051817
I just want it to play FLAC files from a microsd card with great sound quality

I have had two sansa clips break and I'm not interested in getting a third

>>56051823
Oh, and I forgot to get to this part.

The fact that you stopped reading at "speakers" and missed "headphones" is further evidence that you are not seeking help. You pose as seeking is a false pretense. Someone honestly seeking help wouldn't stop reading or miss a suggestion after finding something they disagree with.

>>56051528
You should get PG279Q and calibrate it and GTX 1080 vendor card for your needs and then watch the GPU go kill in two weeks. Upgrade when needed to. Waiting is pointless and for poorfags. If you think you should wait, look for other options on the market.

You should also get yourself a nice pair of headphones and learn to use PEQ.

>>56051737
Same setup here with i7 4790k @ 4.9 GHz. The OC really helps with single threaded performance and maintaining higher fps.

>>56051691
It would handle those fine unless you have some monster CPU but I'd really advise against two GPU setups unless it's two top of the line GPUs together in a money no object build.

>>56051868
>>what is judder
You mean 3:2 pull down judder? When the source matieral is at 24fps, ie. and not "video games at silky smooth fps?" Also if you didn't turn down your monitors refresh rate from 144hz (6*24hz) you wouldn't have any judder even with video recordings?

>>56051877
Cowon Plenue S. You said your budget was unlimited.

>>56051889
I mean I'm pretty sure my pci slots aren't wired for it or whatever?

>>56051889
What? I'm kind of a single GPU guy.
>>56051903
What cooler and voltage?
>>56051906
Judder in video games. Locked 60fps is smoother on 60Hz than locked 60fps on 144Hz.

>>56051952
here's the PCI setup on it or whatever. How do you "mod" drivers to do SLI? Also what does the certification even mean?
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 *2
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x1
1 x PCI

>>56051928
Alright how about under 300USD

>>56051963
>Locked 60fps
Do you only play crappy console ports which come with fps hardcaps like Dark Souls 30fps laziest port ever) or have you found some way to override video cards from processing every frame it can and then dropping them when they go above 60?

I have come to the conclusion that you are either lying to me to not have to admit you are wrong or a retard who doesn't know what he is talking about. I'm leaning towards the latter.

>>56051987
Cowon Plenue D. If you pop your budget to $400 another suggestion is A&K Jr. if you have a problem with Cowon's interface.

>>56051996
Dude what?

Some games like Witcher 3 has a fps cap but it's 60, 30 or unlimited. You can cap the fps at 60 and run it on 144Hz. Like I said earlier, I just keep my shit at 60Hz. Witcher 3 is a demanding game and ultra with no hair works causes it to drop high 50s in the cities but this is due to CPU bottlenecking.

>>56052047
>Some games like Witcher 3 has a fps cap but it's 60
You choose to cap your frame rates? I'm certain it is the latter now.

Out of morbid curiuosity what is your issue with Gsync? It is designed specifically to smooth the experience in circumstances where framerates vary in the area of 30-60fps.

>>56052078
>being this fucking mad

I don't cap it per se you stupid fucking faggot.

Listen up, I run it 2560x1440 60Hz in Windows. If I launch a AAA game, it runs at that setting, so if I enable V-sync, it'll be 60fps max. If I want to play Overwatch I set that to 144Hz in its in game settings. Yes the panel can go up to 165Hz but I don't give a flying fuck.

I don't like G-SYNC because I can notice the changes in smoothness over time. It feels unnatural. I prefer to play at a stable 60Hz experience. G-SYNC does some neat tricks to reduce judder so that's a positive.

>>56052141
>60Hz in Windows
Retarded.

>it'll be 60fps max.
By dropping frames which you claim you hate.

>I don't like G-SYNC because I can notice the changes in smoothness over time
At least tell me you prefer to use ULMB over Gsync rather than a hard to believe lie that you can tell 45 or fps smoothness over 60fps smoothness. Human beings have an innate ability to acclimate. Either something is wrong with you or else you don't notice a "gradual change in smoothness over time" and just think you do.

>>56052198
>Retarded.

I play a lot of games and compatibility is important to me. I don't care for smoother mouse movements and smoother scrolling.

>By dropping frames which you claim you hate.

Again, I prefer a smooth and consistent experience you dumb faggot.

>At least tell me you prefer to use ULMB over Gsync rather than a hard to believe lie that you can tell 45 or fps smoothness over 60fps smoothness.

I use neither. Are you blind, a simple camera pan in-game and you can tell the difference between 45fps and 60fps. The latter being noticeably smoother. You can even tell 60fps to 75fps. I can't tell 120fps from 144fps though.

Human beings have an innate ability to acclimate. Either something is wrong with you or else you don't notice a "gradual change in smoothness over time" and just think you do.

Nah, I know what I'm doing when I'm playing games and I've configured my shit for my needs. I don't give a fuck what you think.

>>56052366
Can't be bothered to, besides I don't care for smoothness beyond 60fps.

>>56052412
Makes one wonder why you bothered buying a 144hz monitor in the first place. Makes one wonders enough to believe you are making shit up. . .

You faggots will argue over everything.

HD600 vs HD800
Wireless vs Wired

And now how to use your monitor.

>>56052474
Welcome to /g/. Leave while now to save what you can.

>>56052467
See:
>>56051737

As I've said over and over, 144Hz is what I use for first person shooter games. Jesus, you are retarded. Just kill yourself already.

>>56052486
The one that says two monitors different from the PG279Q? The one that says different than a GTX 1080?

>>56052486
That wasn't me.

>>56052520
This speccy somehow proves he has a GTX 1080 and a PG279Q? Are you retarded?

Looking to get a new pair of IEM's for about $35. The Zero Audio Carbo Tenore sounds pretty good, but build quality is a bit of a concern for me as I tend to beat on IEM's a bit and it doesn't sound like those will hold up. Any other suggestions?

>>56052585
>why?
Do you really need the obvious explained to you? That speccy shows no possession of a GTX 1080 or a PG279Q.

>>56052667
>>56052725
That isn't my speccy.
>>56052595
Those look durable.

>>56052725
>But it does show a gtx 970 :D
That shows he owns a 144hz monitor? You stated "He posted his speccy" in response to "Makes one wonder if you even own a 144hz monitor."

You sir, are even more retarded that he is.

>>56052746
Why? I don't even use Speccy. It's shit and doesn't give accurate info.

>4095MB GTX 1080
kek

>>56052755
You're the retarded one.

>>56051877
>flac
>portable use

Nope.

>>56052321
>simple camera pan in-game and you can tell the difference between 45fps and 60fps
That's not a gradual change "over time."

>>56052976
What was your point there? That G-SYNC is a gradual change in Hz/fps over time? It isn't. It varies by GPU load. Even so, I can tell the difference quite easily.

>>56053016
>What was your point there?
That you, like every other normal human, couldn't tell the difference just by looking at it like you claim you can. Our physiology works against such.

So why do you spend thousands of dollars on audio gear when none of you have jobs or career related to audio. What do you even listen to with $5000+ audio rig setups?

>>56053063
>why do you spend thousands of dollars
Why do you think we spend thousands of dollars? The big three cost $200-400. The suggested DAC amps are $100-200. Do you think we spend $1500 on PCs and laptops just to listen to music?

>>56049169
how the fuck am i supposed to put those on my ears?

>>56053062
But I can. And it's something easily noticeable, it's not subtle. I can barely figure out shit bitrate and lossless ABX tests but trust me I can tell the difference in smoothness quite easily.
>>56053063
Anime music of course.

>>56053078
All the amps and shit LOOK expensive, this is coming from someone is is not an audiophile as I've blown my eardrumbs with loud noise as a kid and water damage.
Anyways what do you use these expensive rigs for. Are you able to hear sounds and frequencies that the normal human ear can't? Is it just for more bass from dubstep songs like a ghetto black guy blasting blown out bass from his car speakers out in the street. I'm genuinely curious.

>>56053118
>But I can.
Cool story, bro. I'm really going to disregard scientific results that point to the otherwise and believe someone I suspect to lying from the start.

>>56053143
>All the amps and shit LOOK expensive
You believe we spend thousands of dollars because you are ignorant of what "amps and shit" cost?

>>56053154
Nice source on your scientific results, faggot.

>>56053177
>Nice source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatization
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167278999001979
https://research.cs.vt.edu/3di/sites/default/files/Camera%20Ready%20-%20Design%20and%20Evaluation%20of%20a%20Visual%20Acclimation%20Aid%20for%20a%20Semi-Natural%20Locomotion%20Device05.pdf
Etc.
Acclimation is becoming increasingly a subject of study thanks to the recent commercialization of VR. We also see its effects with simple games like "Spot the Difference" or the old trick of getting out of class first by gradually moving your chair towards the door during class.

>>56053175
Are you gonna answer the questions or not kid? Don't care you're insecure that someone doesn't understand your bad buying choices.

>>56053230
>wikipedia as a source
I bet you went to some shit college, faggot.

On the topic of acclimatization, it doesn't work with G-SYNC as the refresh rate and fps fluctuates. Your point would only hold true if it gradually increased or decreased up until a certain value over a period of time. That isn't how G-SYNC works.

>>56051782
>disregard what people say about corsairs,
High end power supplies are a meme

I've been using in ear earbuds for a long time. but I wear them so much I think the inside of my ears are getting fucked up. I have etymotic hf5, I like them a lot, best I've ever had.

Does anyone know of headphones that are semi noise isolating, closed ear but won't get ears hot (the reason I don't like over the ear headphones in the first place), and I'm not a huge sound quality audiophile, but I want something that doesn't sound "echoey", if that's even possible with an over the ear headphone. I've used closed and open ear headphones before but they all have that echo sound to them.

I don't even know if that's the right term. How about if I explain it like this: over the ear headphones with in ear earbud quality. Is this just a feature that non earbuds have inherently?

budget: 100-200, more if you assure me they're durable and can last for years.
united states, I don't have a dac or anything, I don't particularly care for sound quality except for the reason above, I just want clear and accurate sound.

>>56053460
>but I wear them so much I think the inside of my ears are getting fucked up
can you please elaborate?

care to visit an ENT to have an expert opinion?

>>56053494
Well earwax mostly, but occasionally because I'm a loser nerd I get semi painful pimples (or maybe not, but some sort of inflamed sensitive spot) in the ear itself and my earbuds rub against it for a few days.

>>56053460
For portable use? Velour ear pads tend to be cooler than other options but are scarce on headphones.

>>56053587
portable? no not really, just at home next to my computer.

>>56053601
DT770 has velour pads but is a bit bassy in sound. DT250 also has velour pads but the earcups are smaller, DT250 offers a sound close to the HF5.

>>56053261
>Are you gonna answer the questions
You come in here acting like you know it all, get shown that you know nothing and call others "kid" and shit. Why would I answer your questions when it is clear you are not here to ask questions?

>>56053636
Size wouldn't be a problem, I have quite small ears.

the 250 looks pretty good, I might try that sometime.

Oh and also, my dad owns a pair of Denon AH-D5000 and I really really don't like them at all. Hot ears, bad sound quality (echo/sounds like it's far away even when you turn it up). Does anyone else know about these?

should i sell my hd800s and get something else?

Suggest to me the best in ear earbuds for walking around university and easy listening. Located in United States budget is 200 dollars.

>>56054412
>in ear earbuds
You mean an IEM or earbuds? I'm going to assume you mean IEM. MA750.

>>56054359
only decent option would be focal elear/utopia

>>56054466
can you explain the difference between them easily. I only know earbuds and over head headphones. I apologize I lack knowledge about audio stuff entirely.

>>56054580
>can you explain the difference between them easily
Earbuds sit outside the ear canal and don't create a seal. In that way they are like open headphones.

>>56054606
ohhh okay okay so earbuds are like apple headphones that don't go essentially in your ear. Are there good earbuds becuase the in ear canal thing is something I have ever tried

>>56054626
To the best of my knowledge only Yuin.

>>56049149
Those are some really nice skin colors

>>56054359
Yeah, sell it and get a HD600.

So I'm on the hunt for new IEM. What i want is
>100$-200$
>Good build quality and good isolation
>Preferably neutral or mid/treble centered sound signature, already have basshead headphones
>If possible, something i can buy in a store and not online
>Previous IEM was GR07 Bass edition, absolutely loved them but the build quality wasn't good so i don't think i might buy them again
>Gonna use them with Ak Jr or my PC
Was looking into the SE215, or the SE315 or something else idk

>>56054648
thank you pal I will look into those i currently have beats solos that were gifted to me and i like them but i look like a fuck with them

>>56054706
>massive downgrade
why

>>56054714
If you like the GR07 you should take a good look at the MA750.

>>56054714
SE315.
>>56054732
>massive downgrade
No.

>>56054812
>highly distorted, non-resolving nobass trash with zero soundstage
get out

>>56054826
HD600 > HD800.

>>56054861
>poorfags spouting nonsense
what else is new

>>56054880
He's objectively correct.

>>56054886
>objectively
i love when you idiots base this shit on measurements riddled with inaccuracies.

>>56054897
>denying measurements

Back to Head-Fi, kid.

>>56054905
>bases opinions entirely on measurements
>knows nothing about interpreting measurements or the measurement process
kys clueless idiot

>>56054913
>bases opinions on subjective listening and biases

Literal fucking 6moons tier retard we got here.

>>56054930
enjoy your veiled trash, poorfag

>>56054942
I'm listening to my ER-4S right now, virgin.

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>>56054952
>he thinks he's no longer a virgin because his ears were raped by ear dildos

>>56054968
Fuck off, you are practically the new ComfyGrados.

>>56054999
fuck off CG

Slightly related but:

I accidentally played music on my JBL LSR305's at full volume for a little bit. We're talking painfully loud.

What are the signs of sub damage?

Is this a good deal?

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Size-Headphones-Amplifier-MicroSDXC-Headphone/dp/B01E950X44/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1471065341&sr=1-1&keywords=he400s+amp

>>56055375
Are you shitting blood?

>>56055375
how do you like those speakers

Are the AKG M220's any good?

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>>56050320
>asymmetric heat distribution

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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As someone who doesn't have an app

Can you fags tell me why I need one?
Pic related is my headphones.

>>56055995
I assume you mean amp. If so it really wouldn't be necessary with those, unless whatever you're plugging them into has high output impedance.

Oi audiofags.

What's a cheap 2 channel receiver?

>>56056319
Yer mum

Looking for a pair of open back headphones for use with a mobile device or any device without an amp.
Budget is not a problem.

>>56056328
HD598

AD900X

Both are easy to drive. The AD series are particularly easy to drive and should arrive at their full potential even out of a smartphone.

>>56056328
No budget? Probably the MrSpeakers Ether Flow would be the best you can actually drive without a dedicated amp.

>>56056319
Onkyo. Second hand.

>>56056328
>Looking for a pair of open back headphones for use with a mobile device
Are you going to use it while mobile? Using earbuds or open on-ears like the Portapros?

How are the Sennheiser IE 800?
Worth $160?

>>56051643
You're just jealous because you're poor.

>>56057432
>LS50
>expensive
lol why do poorfags who think entry level bookshelves don't make them poor

>>56057432
And when I have loudspeakers more expensive than LS50s, what does it make of me?

Should I get an audiocard if I'm getting into more serious audio production, especially when using MIDI instruments?
Im currently using a USB to MIDI converter along with ASIO4ALL but it's finicky to use along with my default audio drivers.
Could I just get an audio interface without a soundcard?

Whoa, this was a fast thread.

what does itunes "sound enhancer" do and is there any point using it? seems to just up the distortion at low volumes on my hd700s

>>56054861
HD800 > HD600.

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>>56053063
Glorious 2hu music of course.

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A friend will be having a birthday soon, and since he's a guitarist I thought of getting him the Marshall headphones.

Yes, I know I'm paying the brand, but I did try them at a mall and didn't notice any defects, they actually sounded nice to me (not a pro) and seem they would sound nice with the music he listens to the most, rock and blues.

Are they actually any good for 100€? Should I get anything else?

Does anybody have the VE Monk Plus?

>>56058443
What of it?

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So based on the measurements, is the Focal Elear worthy of attention? I happen to prefer a warmer sound.

>>56057747
for you

>>56058709
Is it really that good? I ordered mine and I can't wait to see (or rather hear)....

Looking for closed headphones

>Budget
100-200 $
>Location
Europe
>Source
Pc (will be buying dac soon)
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
wearable
>Preferred tonal balance
skip
>Past headphones
shitty steelseries siberia headset

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Convince me not to buy a game zero.

I absolutely need a mic close to my face all the time and modmics are very expensive in my country.

>>56059565
DT770 (Bass)
DT880 (semi open)
Brainwavs HM5 (comfy, neutral)
AKG k550
V moda lp (if you want good build)
Used NAD HP50

And I know they are memephones, but M50x

Going off Amazon bucks

>>56050320
that case is a literal joke

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>>56059748

Is there such a thing as decent bluetooth headset at $100 or so.

I've been always using earphones, but I'm getting tired of wires and after losing my shure se215s I'd prefer some less clutter, as I'd be using them at both at work and home.

I generally don't mind the wires, but I do pretty physical work where I bend over (hue hue) and do similar things that make wire management a headache.

Are there any 'decent' wireless headphones at the 100$ price range.

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>Budget
$160 max
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Open and good for gaming/music
>Comfort level
Doesn't really matter as long as it's not pure shit
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B, I liked them.

>>56060378
AD 700x/900x

SHP9500

Try to find a used Fidelio X2.

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>>56060603
Ok thank you breh

>Budget
£140 max
>Location
UK
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Headset with a mic, over-ear, good quality mic
>Comfort level
Decent level of comfort, as long as it doesn't hurt it's fine
>Past headphones
PC 310, NEET as fuck I know but they were ok, broke the other day so I'm looking for a new one.

>>56060924
SHP9500 with V moda Boom Pro Mic

>>56060993
Life saver!

>>56060993
One question though are the cables decently medium to long length on both perpherals since I sit reasonably far away from the pc

>>56061078
I think BoomPro is like 5-6 ft long or something. Not sure about the stock SHP9500 cables tho.

You can prob easily find the lengths for both in the product specifications. Keep in mind that the shp has detachable cables and can be replaced with a longer one if needed.

>>56058081
>aftermarket cable

dumb audiophile faggot

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>Budget
around $120 / 1000 SEK but preferrably less, on a student budget

>Location
Sweden (pricerunner.se and prisjakt.nu are good price comparison sites)

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
full sized, over-ear

>Open or closed
No preference either way.

>Comfort level
Super comfy. I stream a lot so I keep them on for extended periods of time.

>Preferred tonal balance
Either neutral or bassy.

>Past headphones
Superlux HD 668B. I like them but they aren't very comfortable for long sessions and I'd like to upgrade.

Thank you kind anons

>>56055558
I love them. They are the legends people claim them to be,.

>>56061395
open or closed?

>>56061524
No preference either way! I won't be using them around people so I don't mind open, but I do stream and I don't want the microphone to pick up my headphone audio too much.

>>56061540
DT770 Pro 80 ohm.

>>56054673
>Those are some really nice *tits* colors.
Fixed.

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I had someone reccomend the v mods cross fade wireless the other day and they seem great for what I want, but is there somewhere I can buy them with the travel case for less than $300?

>Budget

less than $200 CAD

>Location

Canada

>Source

Computer, though I'm willing buy an amp if it will really improve the sound

>Preferred type of headphone

full sized

>Open or closed

open, but don't particularly care

>Comfort level

don't really care

>Preferred tonal balance

neutral, but with good bass

>Past headphones

I had a pair of ATH-M50s for a about five years which recently bit the dust. I really liked them, and am probably going to get another pair, but I am open to recommendations if there is something better out there for the price.

I do music production, and listen to a lot of bassy music. The ATH-M50s seemed to strike a good balance between accuracy and nigger bass.

How are the Koss Portapros in terms of comfort? I've had bad experiences with headphones that use the black disposable padding, and the metal headband makes me nervous.

I plan on getting better headphones for videya/audio editing stuff at home, but this would be for listening to music on the go, watching youtube videos/movies on my tablet when there's downtime at work, listening to music in bed, etc. so the quality doesn't have to be perfect. I'm just sick of buying $5 gummy headphones every couple of months.

>>56062748
I would say hd598 but then I read that you wanted bass

>>56061664
Nice skin colors turn me on more than anything else

I have a bit of a unique situation, /g/. When I was younger, I was in a car accident and fractured my skull, so I don't have any hearing in my left ear. I'm 27 now, and someone just pointed out to me the other day that I'm missing out when wearing headphones of any kind, because the certain sounds (bass, etc.) are divided between the ears unevenly?

I was wondering if there's some sort of unimposing adapter that would correct that problem.

Any good bluetooth earphones for exercise?

>>56063652
No.

>>56053110
Lots of tape?

any good comfortable earphones?

Tried the HD800S at Jaben Singapore today. Long story short, I don't know what you guys were smoking when you said that the HD600 are better than this because they sounded so fucking impressive. I don't know the audiophile terminologies but human vocals especially sound so much more powerful and realistic.

I want a good pair of wireless headphones.

Anyone here own Bose QC 25? If so, how are they?

Money really ain't an issue, and I work in a noisy environment where I would love noise reduction.

Don't really see that many alternatives, apart from Audio-Technica ATH-ANC7b

If any of you know any good similar models, do tell.

>>56054557
>falling for the hype.

It's all the same garbage. Utopia/Elear are on the same level and falter when it comes to imaging. You can get better planars for less. Tyll over hyped the shit out of them when really they are just on par with other company's current offerings.

>>56064177
Oh wait, those arent wireless, derp

>>56064207
you're just jealous of their squeakiness

>>56064274
Yeah, i wish my headphones were made of premium squeaky materials.

>>56064177
>I would love noise reduction.
Passive works just as well (if not better) than active and doesn't need electricity and all the extra hardware and corollary costs.

>>56064153
You fell for the meme but now you know the truth. The lesson is not to listen to the HD600 memers

>>56064354
I've never heard passive be as good as Bose's active stuff except with IEMs which have their own issues for me

>>56053063
>So why do you spend thousands of dollars on audio gear when none of you have jobs or career related to audio
What kind of logic is this? Perhaps we enjoy and appreciate good sound. I don't understand how a profession would be related to anything.
>What do you even listen to with $5000+ audio rig setups?
The same stuff I'd listen to with any setup. The gear I use is unrelated to what I listen to or enjoy. Price of the gear is an uninteresting aspect imo.

>>56064941
You need to try more headphones.

A quick comparison of the two.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2013/09/19/noise-cancelling-vs-noise-isolating-headphones/#31ddc86b74e2

It is almost always the case of people being wed to the notion of technology being better even if the truth doesn't bear that notion out.

>>56064941
>IEMs which have their own issues for me
What are these issues?

New thread:
>>56065471
>>56065471
>>56065471