/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Acoustically transparent? More like autistically transparent

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Congratulations for yet another garbage OP.

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>>56017437

>Budget
Around 100$ CAD. No strict budget, but I'd like to stay around that amount
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear, to use on public transit and at uni
>Open or closed
Open or closed, not sure how in ears could be either of those
>Comfort level
I want them to be comfortable, and I want them to stay in my ear. I hate when in ears fall out easily
>Preferred tonal balance
This one I'm not sure. I'm used to neutral headphones (I have HD558 and DT880's) so I might want to try out a different sound signature, but at the same time I don't know yet. I like neutral but trying out new signatures would be nice. Doesn't really matter.
>Past headphones
Right now I use DT880's with schiit stack at home. Really like it.
I've had HD555 and HD558 previously.
When I travel I just use cheap earbuds or apple earbuds.

As for what music I listen to, it's all over the place really. idm/acid stuff like aphex twin, squarepusher & more, I listen to hip hop, metal sometimes. Lots of stuff really. Mainly electronic music though.

Thinking maybe the shure se215, but I've heard ppl say they are too bassy? I've never had headphones that had an emphasis on bass so I might want to try them out but scared I won't like them. Thoughts? Are they good for IDM stuff?

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>>56017464
You probably think I'm having problem with drawn art on a Siamese cave painting forum.

>>56017327
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
>Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"
Remove this dogshit from the OP already.

>>56017513
If I am wrong would you like to specify how I am wrong and make your position clear? Otherwise it seems like you are just trying to muddy the waters because you got called out on being a retard on 4chan.

>>56017480
https://www.amazon.ca/Etymotic-Research-Isolator-Noise-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B00OQG7IC2/

>>56017569
See >>56017525

>>56017525
Why? Simply because you don't feel it is warranted?

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>>56017608
There's nothing wrong with wireless headphones or headsets and I never got that part about noise cancellation, why is it there. Probably only serves to confuse people who come into the threads as it is. Limiting discussion to wired headphones only is pointless.

Reminding people to put some effort into their inquiries is probably a good idea but I'd word it differently, make it more direct and to the point.

>>56017848
>There's nothing wrong with wireless headphones or headsets
Stopped reading here.
The extra requirements and added complexity, and thus increased breakage, is not something wrong with wireless headphones or headsets?

>>56017911
>stopped reading there
Stop.

We've had this discussion before. Plenty of anons have already explained it but I guess it needs to be said once more: the convenience of wireless headphone(or a headphone with mic already attached for that matter) is far more important for some people than the possible but not inherently higher risk of breaking, even enough so that they are willing to pay premium for such a feature. I find the argument of wireless headphones being more susceptible to breaking and thus should be avoided ridiculous. Plenty of wireless technology in the world which works just fine, is reliable and has longevity - if properly engineered. I don't see wireless headphones being any worse than wired headphones in terms of quality. Wireless headphones have plenty of demand, a lot of new products and it's an area where we could see major improvements in the future. Condemning it from the start isn't helping.

Having the OP say something is "frowned upon" when there isn't any agreement on the matter is my main problem here. This place isn't a hive mind.

>>56017586
haha no thanks.

>>56018077
>he convenience of wireless headphone(or a headphone with mic already attached for that matter) is far more important for some people
Stopped reading here. To which they are willing to accept what is wrong with wireless headphones. But their acceptance of what is wrong with wireless headphones does not magically make headphones as having "nothing wrong with them."

>not inherently higher risk of breaking
Higher complexity does not involve higher risk of breakage? Something with two moving parts is not twice as likely to fail as something with one moving part?

>>56018141
>le stopped reading here
wow so cool bro, you stopped reading there really shows you dont give a fuck about that idiot!

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>>56018141
Try working at home in your office with a wired headset for 8 hours dude.

I got a wireless headset that gets the job done and a nice pair of headphones for when i'm off work. But realistically, sometimes I just log off and keep my headset on. It's not wrong to want a pair that you'll be using for 40 hours to be of good quality.

>>56018210
I will conclude that from your lack of addressing the issues raised in the post that you concede them.

>>56018228
>Try working at home in your office with a wired headset for 8 hours dude.
Did that years ago as part of tech support. But that's besides the point.

All I see in your post is arguing about convenience. I do not contest that wireless headphones are more convenient. I contest the claim that wireless headphones "have nothing wrong with them" and "not inherently higher risk of breaking."

>>56018253
Then read the last person you replied to, because their argument is that the convenience warrants overlooking the lower quality of them.

Nobody's denying that they're less rugged than regular wired headphones. Get your head out of your ass.

I find my wireless headset is, at the very least, rugged enough -- probably won't last nearly as many years as my Shures. But they've been in use for about 4 years now and I've had no problems with them.

>>56018141
Maybe the "nothing" was too strong of a word to use with you since that's what you clung on this time. I take it back. My point is: I don't see the higher risk of breaking being a meaningful problem with wireless technology over wired headphones. I'm not seeing it as downside which shows in product quality enough to generalize all wireless headphones of suffering from reliability issues/breaking vs wired ones. Your example of moving parts isn't applicable here as those don't add up in a wireless system required for audio transmission over short distances

>>56018210
He does that every single time someone argues with him. Yet to be seen today:

[citation needed]
Namedropping argumentation errors

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>>56018141
>Stopped reading there

>proceeds to read the post

Wow, you're retarded.

>>56017525
To be fair the last two itens are perfectly fine, the others are circumstantial, you can tell when someone who knows their shit wants to talk about opinions on headphones and when they are just baiting.
There is about one headset the /hpg/ regulars suggest, and that's when people absolutelly don't want a separate mic.

>>56018281
>overlooking the lower quality of them.
Straw man. Where did I claim that it didn't?

>Nobody's denying that they're less rugged than regular wired headphones
What? Saying:
>not inherently higher risk of breaking
Is not someone denying they are less rugged than wired headphones?

>>56018310
>I don't see the higher risk of breaking being a meaningful problem with wireless technology over wired headphones.
You are probably not alone in that thinking but that does not mean there are not people who disagree with you. That there are not enough people to disagree with you that it warrants a bit of warning to anyone coming to this thread to ask about wireless headphones or headsets.

The reason that it is included in the OP is not to discourage discussion. Nothing stops someone from asking about them just like nothing stops someone from asking about favorite sleeping positions. It is included to forewarn someone asking about it that they might get flamed. That there might be a pic posted or linked to a pic like [pic related].

>>56018357
Excuse me for not quoting the entire sentence rather than just the parts I was addressing. I'll keep trying to be concise in my responses even if it means people like you get confused on what I actually did.

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Will one of these work with Bluetooth headphones?

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>>56018310
Whoops. Forgot the pic.

>>56018448
Probably not. It is unlikely a manufacturer will include the necessary hardware and protocol to transmit audio via bluetooth as that would cost extra over the costs of receiving audio signal.

>>56018483
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A0EAYDI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1C41W6V7R1EVA

One of the pads on my JBL S500 headphones has split open. Is there a place where I can buy replacements or a way to repair it?

>>56018899
And your point is?

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Got some Piston 3's, I'm far from an audiophile but I'm not sure what it is, I just don't feel very impressed by them. I had the Piston 2's previously and liked them a lot and in the interim I've been using some cheap Phillips earphones so it's not really that my ears are just used to higher quality audio now so I didn't realise the change.

Are the Piston Hybrids much more bassier than the Piston 3's? I think that might be a factor, anyone own a pair? How are they?

>>56018951
I wasn't trying to make a point. I was simply asking if those particular bluetooth headphones have the necessary hardware and protocols to be able to use the flexible mic post posted. It's an AptX, low latency bluetooth headphone

>Budget
Around $100 USD. Somewhat flexible.
>Location
US.
>Source
PC, gaming systems.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear.
>Open or closed
Closed preferred.
>Comfort level
Fairly comfy.
>Preferred tonal balance
N/A
>Past headphones
Currently using Sennheiser HD280 Pros. Liked everything about them, really. But after a few years of daily use, they're kinda beat up.

Not sure if I should just get another pair of 280's or if there's something better out there.

>>56018996
>I was simply asking if those particular bluetooth headphones have the necessary hardware and protocols
You did so poorly. Considering that none of the accessories includes a microphone I would think it wouldn't handle the flexible mic you posted. Cannot say until it is tried though.

>>56019056
>You did so poorly

my apologizes.

>>56019056
Why the fuck else would he post that link? Learn2context nigger.

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

>>56019079
>Why the fuck else would he post that link?
Perhaps he is a different poster who is aware of a headphone that will work with a separate microphone? I don't know. I cannot read his mind or tell one anonymous poster from another without any indications. But apparently you can.

>Budget
100
>Location
Usa
>Source
HTC 10
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM or earbuds
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Normal or baseish
>Past headphones
Ath 50 ath 70 shitty mee buds

I keep breaking my iems. Getting tripped up on the cord when im squatting and working on the floor at work. And recommendations? Listen to all types of music and audiobookks
Work in a data center if it matters for noise canceling.

What are the most comfortable headphones? I read that the DT880 Premiums are up there but is there anything better?

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>Budget
$700
>Location
east coast of the USA
>Source
my desktops motherboard - an ASUS Z97-A/USB 3.1
>Preferred type of headphone
I have no problem with over-ear
>Open or closed
open since I have no reason to need closed
>Comfort level
maximum. I have the Superlux 668B and it's so uncomfortable that I never want to buy another uncomfortable headphone again.
>Preferred tonal balance

>Past headphones
first headphone was Sennheiser HD 201

currently it is the Superlux 668B

If it helps at all, I almost never listen to EDM. I very occasionally listen to rap. I'm almost always listening to classical, jazz, rock, country etc.

Keep in mind, I really don't want to spend the entire $700 unless it's the greatest thing ever made.

>>56019426
>Preferred tonal balance
fuck, i want neutral.

>>56019441
>neutral

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>>56019426
>I really don't want to spend the entire $700 unless it's the greatest thing ever made.
HD600 is only $350 and it's the greatest thing ever made.

>>56019558
>>56019572
the shills can leave. the DT880 is more neutral and more comfortable.

btw, the HD600 is only $250 on amazon if you buy the $150 gift card pack, so if you happen to want to spend $150 more on amazon, you'll get them for $250. The DT880 premium is also only $209 on amazon right now.

>>56019426
Ignoring the current memes, before spending this much cash you should find a store that will let you try the headphones out first. You can get HD650, something like Hifiman's HE400i or Beyer's T90 for around $400. HD600 and DT880 for even cheaper. Try them on, find out which are the most comfy for you and what sound signature you like the most. Keep in mind that even when you're not completely satisfied, you can still EQ at home. Use the rest to buy a DAC/amp combo since I doubt your motherboard will be enough to drive them. Just don't buy into the meme that you need at least a $200 amp for the headphones to "truly shine" and other bullshit.

>>56019707
>Use the rest to buy a DAC/amp combo
l-like what

>>56019733
Something like the fiio E10K should be enough. Currently for $75 on amazon, or you can go full meme and get a schiit stack or o2+odac combo for around $250, but don't expect a difference in sound unless you can perform enough mental gymnastics to convince yourself that there is any.

>laptop soundcard is shit
>phone internal dac is shit
>MSR7s
>randomf IEMs/earbuds

recommend me external DACs please.
looking at:
Fiio whatever , $50-$150
dragonfly black, $100
JDSLABS C5 $150
OPPO- H2 $300
Chord Mojo $600

The only one I can try in person is Mojo, which would be max quality for whatever I use but I'm expecting severe diminishing returns after the $150 price point.

On the other hand, getting a Mojo now means I'll never have to worry about source components, apart from the files themselves, again. Could get the most out of almost any headphones I pick up.

>>56019907
I was facing a similar problem a couple years back and decided to go with FiiO's X3, which works both as a USB DAC when at home and as a source player when on the go. There's really not much reason to go for anything more expensive, especially if you have IEMs which you can drive with anything.

>>56020000
What about streaming music?

>>56020067
From your phone? Then you're fucked, I guess. Although I would say if you're streaming Spotify's ~160kb/s or similar, you have bigger problems than a shitty DAC.
Some phones can still work it out with the OTG USB but I have no idea if it would work with the X3 or your phone.

>>56020129
Yeah, my phone can do OTG USB.
Streaming 320 kb/s.

About to buy a 215 through amazon. Is square trade worth it?

>>56020160
Well then maybe not all hope is lost, apparently the X3s work well in that regard.
https://techtourguide.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/how-to-use-the-fiio-x3-as-an-android-dac/

>>56020235
Not bad, but it looks like I'd be buying DAP functionality I won't need

>>56019426
Stax 3100

everything else is not as good.

>>56020356
Well, yeah. I pop in a 64 GB microSD with virtually all my music I listen to and I'm set. If you really just want a DAC then perhaps something like the K1 would be more for you, although I cannot recommend or vouch for anything in that regard.

What are some alternatives to the HD 600s at that price point? I already have an amp.

>>56020821
DT880 premium 600 ohm

>>56020821
DT880, AKG K712, Fidelio X2

>>56019291
MA900

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>>56017327
>Having discussions is frowned upon

have fun with your dead thread fags

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Yes/No?

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repostin advice request becuase fuckit

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Fiio X3II
>Type
IEM
>Comfort level
I'd like to be able to wear them on and off for a 5 hour work shift.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/balanced
>past headphones
Vsonic Vsd2s and MeeAudio M6 Pros
I like the clarity of the vsonics a lot but the treble is every so slightly sibilant and the bass is kind of recessed. The M6 Pros are great all around but the treble is slightly lacking when compared to the vsonics. If I could get something g in-between these two I'd be pretty psyched

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I bought a Sony mdr-xb450ap, and while I'm happy with it, i want to know your opinion.
Was it a good decision ?

>>56021116
doit

>>56018984
Just order them. You asked this yesterday didn't you? That's one day you wasted on not ordering them. Don't they take a month for Chinese IEMs to arrive? What are you? Poor?

>>56021159
I want to fuck that anime girl

>>56021103
Have you looked at the archives? How many /hpg/ threads are there that reached bump limit and then some?

>>56021159
Can you bump your budget $20? Take a look at the MA750.

>>56021245
really? what kind of IEMS would you wear while fucking that anime girl?

>>56019632
DT880 isn't neutral. It has recessed upper midrange and peaky treble.

sennheiser hd201, hd202, koss ksc75 or takstar hd2000?

I'm looking for budgeted headphone with overall good quality, and this is what my friend recommended to me

>Wireless is frowned upon.

Where does one go to join a discussion about wireless?

>>56021326
Reddit. That's where filthy casuals such as yourself belong. Go there, and never come back here, faggot.

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>>56017327
should I?
i like the looks and need some noise cancelling for commuting. how is the sound quality of these?

neckbears and neets need not apply

>>56021326
This thread is an audiophile circlejerk. Most of the people who lurk this general believe that it isn't possible to maintain audiophile standards wireless without spending an exorbitant amount of money making meeting the audiophile standard wireless prohibitively expensive.

This is the reason why your interrogatives about wireless headphones go unanswered.

>>56021395
Even with an unlimited budget, wireless headphones can never be truly audiophile.

>>56021326
What is there to discuss?

>>56021350
>need some noise cancelling
Why would you choose noise cancelling over noise isolating? You get the essentially same benefits without having to compromise on sound quality.

>>56021409
I've looked at se215s but i'd rathern not push earwax in

>>56021409
>What is there to discuss?

Which wireless headphones are good.

>>56021232
I asked but got no answers ;_;

It only takes a few days depending on where you order from desu. I just wouldn't want to order the Hybrids if they're not going to be much different to the Piston 3's I already have. Just a waste of time and effort so I figured I'd ask here

>>56021422
Have you looked at on ear headphones?

>>56021437
I ask again, what is there to discuss? I ask because there are no good wireless headphones in comparison to wired headphones.

>>56021326
the problem with this general is that the group of people who usually start these threads are imposing their own antiquated, 2012 biases on the rest of us. Bluetooth 4.1 and Apt-X make Bluetooth audio not only viable, but much less expensive than most of the people who lurk this general believe.

>>56021458
yes, but usually their clamping force is way too much for me, and they let way too much noise in. either you go in ear or noise cancelling and I'd rather go noise cancelling

>>56021490
>but usually their clamping force is way too much for me
Bose headphones will not have clamping force that is way too much for you?

>they let way too much noise in
What on-ears have you tried?

>>56021458
>I ask again, what is there to discuss? I ask because there are no good wireless headphones in comparison to wired headphones.

So this general is a circlejerk. Got it.

>>56021501
the qc3 is quite cushioned

also

px 200 ii, hd-25 and some akgs

>>56021517
Let's make this plain. Because no one can recommend a wireless headphones as "good" we must be disregarding some wireless headphones and just participating in an echo chamber?

Might I cite one of the most cited writers in regards to headphones?
>For a number of reasons, I'm not a big fan of wireless headphones. Usually, sound quality suffers from the wireless transmission link. . . As a result, you'll always get better sound quality for the money with wired headphones.

>>56021536
You had too much headclamp with the HD25? The one with the split headband and swivel cup? Is your head the size of Alaska?

>>56021517
Name me a wireless pair of headphones that sounds better and out-competes wired headphones in a similar price range

>>56021544
"For a number of reasons, I'm not a big fan of wireless headphones. Usually, sound quality suffers from the wireless transmission link. . . As a result, you'll always get better sound quality for the money with wired headphones." - 2012

Your implying that sound quality is paramount. What about individuals who are not audiophiles who are willing to sacrifice sound quality in exchange for mobility. Do the audiophiles who dominate this general get to gang up on anyone who comes into this thread who isn't an audiophile and mock them until they go away, prohibiting any discussion about an entire genre of headphones that has tens of thousands of different models on Amazon?

>you must stay tethered to your hardware because we say so

>>56021584
>similar price range
That isn't possible. Also, the question is a strawman. It completely tosses aside any consideration of mobility as a merit.

>>56021595
>Your implying that sound quality is paramount.
What other metric would you suggest to determine what makes up a good headphone (wired or wireless) if not primarily sound quality?

>>56021595
Those who would sacrifice essential sound quality for mobility deserve neither sound quality nor mobility.

>>56021615
hands-free mobility.

>>56021595
>Do the audiophiles who dominate this general get to gang up on anyone who comes into this thread who isn't an audiophile

Yes. Get the fuck out.

>>56021640
Then any wireless will work for you. You might as well just buy wireless Beats, ie. there is nothing to discuss.

>>56021652
The problem with circlejerks is that you never get exposed to new ideas. Over time, what you believe is true may change, but you'll never discover that change and your understanding of reality will become antiquated.

In other words, there is nothing I can do to you that would be worse than what you all are already doing to each other.

>>56021666
Straight from the devil, and he's a notorious liar.

>>56021698
U wut m8?

>>56021183
If you're happy with it then why do you care? Are you that insecure?

What is the difference between the HD558 and HD 598? And do those pads get hot like leatherette, or do they stay cool?

>>56021666
>Then any wireless will work for you

This is flagrantly false. There is a spectrum of quality ranging from great to poor when it comes to wireless headphones just as there is a spectrum of quality of when it comes to audiophile headphones. But those of us who aren't audiophiles can never discuss which wireless headphones are better than others here without being persistently mocked by autistic sperglords.

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>>56021685
>>56021698
mmkay

>>56018141
>HA! These things are shit for your needs because I don't need them for MY needs!

(You)

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>>56021266
these look bretty gud

>>56021730
>there is a spectrum of quality of when it comes to audiophile headphones
And that spectrum of quality is based upon what? Sound quality? The very aspect you (inb4iMADifferentposter) you are trying to disregard?

>>56021753
Just because sound quality is a lower priority doesn't mean it's disregarded entirely.

>>56021746
Thank you. Based upon how you intentionally misrepresent what was actually written you prove there is no point in responding to your posts.

>>56021753
>Sound quality?

Yes. After accepting that they aren't going to sound as good as audiophile headphones and being OK with that in order to gain the convenience of mobility, then from there, from that position, begin to compare which mobile options sound better than others.

There are also other considerations, such as range, battery life Apt-X, etc.

>>56021770
yes it does.

>>56021770
>Just because sound quality is a lower priority doesn't mean it's disregarded entirely.
Let me put this to you another way. You can sacrifice sound quality (and price) for convenience if that is your choice. But you are being just as foolish as people who buy Beats headphones and sacrificing sound quality (and price) for aesthetics.

>>56021805
>After accepting that they aren't going to sound as good as audiophile headphones
Are they going to sound as good as similarly priced wired headphones?

Are people shopping for wired headphones not making the same compromises as your average Beats headphone purchasers?

>>56021825
>Are they going to sound as good as similarly priced wired headphones?
No. Wireless headphones that sound decent are always more expensive.
>>56021825
>Are people shopping for wired headphones not making the same compromises as your average Beats headphone purchasers?
I don't understand this question.

>>56021849
>I don't understand this question.
Sorry, I messed that up.

>Are people *that buy wireless headphones not making the same compromises as your average Beats headphone purchasers, ie. compromise sound quality for aesthetics?

>>56021815
>>56021825
>le beats boogeyman

It's not a matter of aesthetics, it's a matter of not being tethered to your devices. I don't have to have wires running across my body, I don't have to stop listening to whatever it is I'm listening to just to poke into the next room or pace, I don't have to worry about running over the wire with my chair. I don't have to deal with tangles or crimps.

To many, myself included, it's worth the lower quality because we're not audiophiles and we'd like the convenience.

>>56021815
I work in sales. I travel all over the world every week and go to conferences and business meetings and I spend a lot of time waiting. Waiting, Waiting, Waiting.

And Waiting.

I want the ability to be able to listen to high quality music while I'm waiting for flights and when I'm in between meetings while simultaneously being able to take a phone call immediately, and I want this ability without having a wire going from my headphones to my phone because it looks unprofessional. Also, I hate ear buds.

I know quite a few colleges who feel the same way.

It's frustrating to come to the technology board here and be told constantly that I'm an idiot for wanting a high quality audio option that meets my mobility preference.

>>56021894
>It's not a matter of aesthetics
Straw man? It was an analogy. Those choosing to compromise audio quality (and price) for convenience are making the same compromise(s) as those who choose aesthetics over sound quality, ie. Beats purchasers. I understand that you are choosing convenience. That's your choice. But not agreeing with your choice does not make others snobs, or elites, or circlejerking. Rational minds can disagree.


>>56021916
>and I want this ability without having a wire going from my headphones
Am I supposed to agree with your decision to sacrifice sound quality and price for convenience?

>>56021726
no difference besides a tiny foam, get whichever is cheapest, they stay cool

>>56021863
>Are people *that buy wireless headphones not making the same compromises as your average Beats headphone purchasers, ie. compromise sound quality for aesthetics?

No, they are not. The people who buy Beats are idiots who wouldn't know a good wireless headphone if it bit them in the ass. They're lazy and high susceptible to marketing.

Went to the gym with my headphones and when I came back one of the pads was missing.
Have no idea how it happened.
Was fucking around with the other side and I removed the pad and couldn't put it back.
Do they make "universal" pads for headphones?

>>56021951
>Am I supposed to agree with your decision to sacrifice sound quality and price for convenience?

No. You can do what ever the fuck you want.
I'm just ranting about a circlejerk that is frustrating the hell out of me.

/rant.

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>>56021752
>manufacturer measurements
Neutral my ass.

>>56021975
Also curious, are pads mostly for comfort or do they also affect sound quality?

>>56021970
>The people who buy Beats are idiots who wouldn't know a good wireless headphone if it bit them in the ass
You do understand that an analogy is not meant to be taken literally? In this case the question compared the sacrifice of sound quality and price for convenience as roughly similar (or "analgous") as the sacrifice of sound quality and price for aesthetics. The question was not meant to be taken as literally the same, ie. Beats purchasers sacrifice sound quality for convenience and will know about wireless headphones.

Is English not you first language?

>>56022000
life is suffering

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>>56022002
No, what I'm saying is that there are wireless headphones that have better aesthetics than Beats that are much cheaper.

https://amzn.com/B019C1MBWW

If aesthetics were their primary concern, they wouldn't care that Bluedio botched there Apt-X contract negotiation.

>>56022061
The only way is to get an Etymotic ear dildo.

>>56022067
>what I'm saying is that there are wireless headphones that have better aesthetics than Beats
Care to explain how that is relevant to the question?

>If aesthetics were their primary concern, they wouldn't care that Bluedio botched there Apt-X contract negotiation.
Because reasonable people cannot disagree with your aesthetic judgments? They cannot find Beats more aesthetically pleasing that Bluedio, partly because a lot of celebrities use Beats as well? I'm beginning to question whether or not you can be rational.

I'm about to go full meme and buy HD600s and an O2 ODAC. Convince me not to.

>>56022103
Now your just arguing for the sake of arguing. Here's your reply.

>>56017327
>Budget
$10k
>Location
United States of America
>Source
Computer + external DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, HD800 leaks too much
>Comfort level
Alcantara
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

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>>56022090
that's my fetish

>>56022114
I asked you to explain how your response was relevent to the question asked. Apparently you are perfect and incapable of making simple mistakes like providing irrelevant answers or misunderstanding the question asked. I bow down to your unquestionable perfection and stop reading any further responses as your perfection cannot be challenged. Feel free to dictate our opinions for us on headphones.

>>56022124
Ether C?

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>>56022110
Just fucking do it

>>56022124
I find the Koss PortaPros to be an excellent option

>>56022136
(You)

>>56022136
You're trying to initiate an argument about semantics.

>>56022110
That's the /g/entooman's combo:

ODAC -> O2 -> HD600

>>56022124
Find yourself an SR-4070. They were originally used as monitor headphones for japanese broadcast stations.

>>56022110
You're going to love it. Worth every penny.

>>56022240
I *am* a total weaboo...

>>56022124
ATH-M50x.

I plan to grab one of these and velcro dot it to my headphones. Any flaws in my master plan?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-5MM-Wired-Microphone-Headset-Studio-Conference-Guide-Speech-Speaker-Stand-Microfone-For-Voice-Amplifier-Portable/32516792226.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.376.K7C3Iv&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10055_10049_10017_10059_10058_10060_10061_10062_10064,searchweb201603_2&btsid=149d9184-6644-4c25-9cb2-6ad69c138222

Currently I'm using an FiiO E10 as an external DAC/amp. How does the O2/ODAC combo compare?

I had a bigass Burson amp and AKG700s in the past but couldn't really determine any improvement in the sound quality, so I later sold them. So I might be tonedeaf or something. However I found a major difference in clarity after getting that E10.
If I'm not going to get a huge improvement from the combo I think I'd rather go balls deep on the DAC; maybe getting a Cambridge Audio one or something.

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>>56022562
Get on my level, nigger

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lgtss

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>>56022959
Recently replaced my M50x with Etymotic MK5s for portable. No regrets with me.

How often do you guys sell off your gear?
I want a dac/amp but I'm considering going up a price tier so I can keep it if I swap/upgrade headphones.

>>56023061
I may be selling a benchmark DAC1 in about a months time if you'd be interested.

>>56021609
I'd rather not have compensated sacrifices, thank you very much.

>>56023113
>benchmark DAC1
Looking for something portable, but thanks anon

>>56023255
I remember reading that the chord mojo is actually good, and not bullshit expensive like chord's other products.

>>56023276
Actually my top pick, but I wouldn't make the most out of it now. I was thinking JDSC5D, use it till I get new headphones, then maybe up to the Mojo

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>Budget
$40
>Location
USA
>Source
HTC 10 Boomsound
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM or something small that I can wear on a plane.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, something that can stay in small ears for 2-3 hours at a time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or bass
>Past headphones
Shit that hurts my small ear canals

>>56021975
>>56022001
Nobody knows what the fuck you have, can't make recommendations off that. And yes they do affect quality.

smsl m3 usb dac/amp seems to be disconnecting momentarily every 2/3 hours. any idea on how to fix this shit? i'd rather not be bothered submitting a faulty claim with chinks. if its a usb problem, i'd rather just buy a soundcard with spdif out and use that.

>>56017848
>There's nothing wrong with wireless headphones or headsets
What?
>and I never got that part about noise cancellation
Oh, you're either stupid or uninformed.

>>56023588
We've really gone over the wireless discussion as much as possible with one retard demonstrating how he is too perfect to bother with his end of a discussion. I don't think rehashing it will be productive.

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>>56023113
Changing out for something else?

>>56023851
An yggdrasil actually. Going to see what this R2R and 'retaining the original samples' shenanigans is about.

>>56023889
Don't get your hopes too high, they really are shenanigans.

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>>56022959

>>56023899
I'm not expecting it to transform my audio chain and suck my cock every morning. But hey, I'm crazy enough to have already spent several kilobucks on my setup.

>>56023918
I'm just glad my Valhalla 2 killed my curiosity about those things. I've lost the urge to change anything but my speakers now and even then it's a small urge that I can live with for now.

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Based upon a recommendation given to me in this general several weeks ago, I purchased a Superlux HD 681 headphone just to see what all of the hubbub is about. I've been blown away by the quality of the sound, and I haven't even bought an amp yet.

I'm not an audiophile, so I don't understand the specs.

What I don't understand is why these cheap headphones ($27.99) sound much, much better than my old Creative Sound BlasterX H5 Professional Analog Gaming Headset ($99.99). They are a third of the cost of my old headphones and yet they are better. I've lurked this general long enough to realize that you're all going to say that gaming headsets suck, but on paper they have nearly identical stats. They both have 50 mm drivers and they are both 32 ohms.

What am I missing here? Why is the Superlux nearly an order of magnitude better?

>>56023958
Specs for headphones, like frequency range, is pretty irrelevant.
What matters is measurements for things like frequency response and distortion.

>>56024020
Well how do I search for that while shopping? I've never seen those stats on products on Amazon.

What is a good frequency response? What is a bod frequency response?
What causes distortion in headphones?

>>56024043
Golden ears, InnerFidelity are some examples of places with those measurements.

>>56023958
build quality

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>>56024076
>filename

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/worlds-best-headphone-focal-utopia
We world's best headphones now

While we're at it
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-news-august-2016

>>56024076
thank you

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>>56024104
>Bluetooth Headphone Sales Outpace Wired Headphones for First Time

>You can expect companies to focus hard on wireless technologies in the near future. Unfortunately that may have us seeing a de-emphasis on good sounding wired cans.

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>>56024096

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>>56024132
>Unfortunately that may have us seeing a de-emphasis on good sounding wired cans.
It's hardly going to affect the higher end market anyway. Especially with those people carrying retardo stacks.

>>56024189
da fuq is all that?

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>>56024189
It might mean companies that feel like they can get away with $4k+ headphones without batting an eye (LCD4, the new utopia, abyss, etc). Audio gear prices in general going up in recent years is definitely a concern.

>$13k
>optional stand is $2500

>>56024104
>>56024096
Source: PRweb, an online marketing firm.

Anyone else find this source perhaps a bit biased?

>>56024236
>how to get into design if you have have no eye for design or what looks good
>get into boutique amplifier design

>>56024209
Portable audio in its finest form.

Seems to be a Fiio X3ii/X5ii as the source connected to a Chord Mojo via coax as a DAC, line out to a Vorzuge Vorzamp line in and an IE8 with a custom cable.

>>56024236
>b-but the stand isolates it and gives a wider soundstage!

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>>56022959
r8/h8

don't want to upgrade to the Ether Flow because it will ruin the whole red/black theme going on

TH-X00 on the way after months of waiting

>>56021409
The DSP used in those Bose headphones aids with sound quality. They are baking equalisation to the headphones when they are used in active mode and the difference to the passive mode is quite stark. ANC is beneficial at blocking out continuous low frequency noise such as a jet engine. Passive noise isolation often lacks in isolation of lowest frequencies which is the area where ANC works the best. The sensation is quite nice when environmental noise is mostly low frequency.

>>56024236
even though the Chord stuff is packed with features, some I hold dear (crossfeed), I can't take their prices seriously, especially the accesories

fuck those that enable them

>>56024096
triggered
but seriously, who cares? the non-bt headphones were also mostly shit, good headphones are probably 1% of sales and are not going away

>>56024387
>The DSP used in those Bose headphones aids with sound quality.
A digital signal processor? What does it do? Emulate 5.1 surround sound?

>backing in EQ
Because tuning sound signatures is only done by EQing? Are you retarded?

>ANC is beneficial at blocking out continuous low frequency noise such as a jet engine
Because isolation doesn't do the same thing to all frequencies. Yeah, you're retarded.

>>56024375
Recessed treble/10

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on ear or over ear. why?

>>56024606
over
comfy

>>56024606
On ear is smaller and thus more mobile. Many find on-ears uncomfortable.

>>56024606
You are either in ear or over ear. On ears are the devil.

>>56024606
is that a girl or a guy?

>>56024669
Rose is a girl.

>>56024669
Guy.

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Bought Sennheiser HD518s and find them sort of blurry and not very sharp. So, is it a good idea to try and buy something that's a lot more clear and bright on goldenears?

Seems like normalfags finally found /hpg/ and are trying to form it into what they want it to be. Fuck off with the wireless garbage.

On the other hand, I finally fell for the ''transparency'' meme and got an o2 to match with my Made in Austria™ K701s

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>tfw seriously considering buying AKG because of anime

>>56025172
Don't fall for marketing. Kadokawa seems to have a strange hard-on for AKG products.

>>56025172
Which AKG? K3003?

>>56025235
I thought it looked a lot like the k240.

>>56025235
K1000 or bust

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>>56025172
I have no complaints about my headphones to be honest

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Autistically perfect.

>>56024430
>What does it do?
Equalizes.
>Because tuning sound signatures is only done by EQing?
No, never implied that.
>Are you retarded?
Definitely not but the more I see you post the more I think you might be.
>Because isolation doesn't do the same thing to all frequencies.
Because it doesn't. You seem awfully confident. Look up some isolation graphs and you'll immediately see how well low frequencies still get through seaked headphones. Only canalphones show decent levels of isolation in lower frequencies.
>Yeah, you're retarded.
Stopped reading there.

As an example, see how the response is altered by DSP here:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BoseQuietComfort35WiredPassive.pdf
vs
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BoseQuietComfort35WiredActive.pdf

Also check isolation graphs. I wonder why the ANC has very high levels of isolation in the lower frequencies when the same headphone(which is closed) has very little without it. Similar slope in isolation is seen in every other sealed headphone. Nearing the lower frequencies isolation is minimal to nonexistent. Check DT770 which generally isolates quite well:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT770.pdf

Isolation below 150 Hz is worth nothing.

>>56025468
>Look up some isolation graphs
Who does isolation graphs?

>>56025485
IF, top right graph.

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>>56025468
>Also check isolation graphs
You mean like this?

>>56025485
Tyll does them, included in every measurement(top right). Same thing on Headroom(headphone.com) but I think it's Tyll who measured those anyway.

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>>56025526
Or this?

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>>56025558
Or how about this?

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I got (pic related) as a form of payment this week,are they any good?opinions?

>>56025468
You know what? I suspect there is something wrong with Tyll's equipment when it comes to measuring low level isolation. Just about every closed fullsized headphone he has on his wall of fame or retired from the wall of fame have measurably worse isolation (most of them actually going up to +5db) than the isolation measured on the HD800S.

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>>56023851
We almost have the same setup.

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>>56025632
Thought I was the only one on /hpg/ who used youtube
128kbps audio isnt that bad desu

did they ever fix the hd280 so it doesn't clamp your head and snap in half after a few years?

mine broke but otherwise it sounded good

>>56025632
memephile

>>56023918
I bet that housefire amp kept your kiwi ass warm at night though.

>>56025673
It isn't bad at all and it can be up to 160 kbps Opus. Depends mostly on the source quality that got uploaded there, could be shit or it could be transparent. My gripe with it is the lower volume they use in all content that gets uploaded there. A bit irritating if you switch between players.

>Budget
80€
>Location
Europe / NL
>Source
Phone & Laptop (IPhone 6 & MacBook Air)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Long wearing should not hurt.
>Preferred tonal balance
Stronger low tones but fairly balanced
>Past headphones
Shitty Headphones

>>56025632
>using a bright amp with bright headphones

wew lad

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"Wireless is frowned upon"

>2016
>still can't into lossless aptX Low Latency

>>56026829
>bright amp
bullshit

A quick google search says it uses a Analog Devices AD1853 chip. And one online post says
>The AD1853 is very soft and warm in its sound structure. It is almost like listening to an LP.

>>56026829
>>56026892
Benchmark dac is fucking transparent. How can it have a sound signature?

>>56026911
Are these two >>56023851, and >>56025632 the fucking same? Can you please click on the picture and look? Different models.

Are you implying that both Benchmark combos sound the same?

>>56026892
>>56026911
It's bright and thin sounding.

The soundstage is also small and congested, imaging suffers as a result.

>>56026874
this is actually starting to intrigue me

>>56026874
da fuq am I looking at?

>>56026943
Yes

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>>56027087
>Are you implying that both Benchmark combos sound the same?
>Yes
Then you can't be taken seriously

are the Shure SE215 and Audio Technica ATH-IM50 the only IEMs that are below/around $100 with detachable cables?

>>56027101
I follow nwavguy's school of thought. That being said, ABX or get the fuck out.

>>56027146
Then those two anons with the Benchmark combos should trade DAC 1 to DAC 2 and vice-versa based on your answer.

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>>56027177
Trading wouldn't do any good. What they need to do is set up an ABX test to see if there really is a difference.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open

Reminder to buy the best headphones ever made

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>>56027340
>closed

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>>56022959
I really like that these are back, some pretty interesting setups showing up lately.
>>56025172
It depends on the model, just as with any other brand, but if you ask me AKG is not a bad option, i really like how the K702 sounds for example, being meaning to test a few others such as the K612 and K712 for a while now.

>>56022562
It will sound literally the same because afaik both ODAC and E10 have really low output impedance, and that's the only thing that can actually affect the sound.

>>56017464
Most of the anime banners are only shown on the weeaboo boards where you belong.
And how do the banners prove that 4chan is still an anime website?

I don't see any waifupost. Was there a purge sometime ago?

>>56027101
Both of them use the exact same headphone amplifiers(HPA-2) and both have extremely low levels of noise and distortion, both have a ruler flat FR within the audible band. They will sound identical unless something is broken. They won't sound any different from the usually recommended O2 or Magni either.

>>56027177
Pretty sure both realize their setups are well transparent as far as the DA-conversion and amplification goes.

>>56027828
>ODAC
Has an output impedance of hundreds of Ohms. O2 about 0.5 Ohms. Output impedance affects damping which can shift frequency response depending on the load's impedance function. Otherwise it has no effect on the sound. Noise levels might be different which could have an audible effect. O2 has more output power and is more silent than E10K.

>>56028017
redditors and head-fiers are running these thread nowadays

>>56028083
Will ODAC's output impedance have an effect on the sound if it's still going through the O2 amp before reaching the headphones? I ain't no electrician but I would imagine that won't be the case.

>>56028236
It will not have an effect on the sound there.

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>>56025393
autistic alright

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Are HD600 really that good or it's just a meme?

>>56028761
>is it just a meme
Did even want to get an answer?

I just found out ODAC will clip the input stage of the O2 if the gain is set to more than 3.3x
Why the fuck is the ''normal'' gain 2.5x and 6.5x then?

So what's the difference between the M40x and the M50x?
I know /hpg/ stopped recommending the M50x once they became popular and rose in price, and the 40x are substantially cheaper, but what about sound?

>>56024375
You can update to the flow and keep your red, just let them know.

>>56028761
the sound quality is decent for the price, but the sound signature can feel lackluster to a lot of people. the build quality is bad and so is the QC. comfort is mediocre.
funny how people who pretend to know what they are talking about are so fond of these headphones when it's one of the worst options if you're competent with an EQ.
wouldn'trecommend/10

>>56029527
m50x has more extended subbass, m40x has slightly more accurate mids and a treble spike. m50x are bassy headphones with the bass being further emphasized by the recessed treble. m40x are v-shaped. sound quality wise they're pretty even but in favor of m40x, which makes m40x a much better option since it's usually half the price of m50x.

>>56029718
>someone jokingly recommends HD600
>buy it
>better justify my purchase, delude myself and spread the meme further to misinform more people
that's how it works here

is there a reason ath-ad700x's aren't recommended?
last time I was here, ath-ad700's were recommended fairly regularly, and ath-ad700x's are purportedly exactly the same in every respect aside from build quality
do the recommended ATH-TAD400's just outclass them?

alternatively, is there something superior to those ath-ad700x's for under $100 that target the same goals (good soundstage, reasonable clarity/reproduction, can be simply driven by computer's soundcard). I'm buying them for a friend, so I can't really answer most of the standard request questions, I just want to get him something decent as a gateway to good audio

>>56029718
>the sound quality is decent for the price

It's the most neutral open backed headphone with low distortion that money can buy today. It's not merely decent, it's excellent in sound quality.

>but the sound signature can feel lackluster to a lot of people

To niggers perhaps? The sound is flat, the treble is present yet non-fatiguing, if it sounds lackluster then the music is lackluster.

>the build quality is bad and so is the QC

It's better built than most headphones and is quite lightweight, broken headphones doesn't mean that it was built bad, just that it was mistreated.

>comfort is mediocre

Lightweight and comfortable, more comfortable than headphones like K701 and the heavy DT880.


The HD600 are the best headphones that money can buy at the moment, sadly.

>>56029849
ath-ad700 have been discontinued and ath-ad700x haven't been measured.
tad400 and tad500 are very similar to ath-ad700, but tad500 get outclassed by shp9500 at their price point.

>>56029936
i would have countered your points if it wasn't for the last sentence of your post. seems like you've already made your mind up.

>>56030029
>i would have countered your points if it wasn't for the last sentence of your post. seems like you've already made your mind up.

It's true though, if fidelity is what you want on full-sized headphones then the HD600 can't be beat at the moment. This excludes exclusive headphones like Orpheus and the like.

And yes, the HD600 is more neutral than SR-009, HD800, etc.

Only the Shure open backed models are more neutral than the HD600 in FR but those have high distortion. Ety ER-4S is more neutral with acceptable distortion levels but those are ear dildos.

>>56029936
>hd600
>low distortion
haha

>>56029718
>HD600
>bad with EQ

From 100Hz to 10kHz it's on point on the Harman target curves. I just add a simple sub-bass filter on mine to make it match the Harman target. I've lowered the pre-amp level so it wouldn't clip. These headphones sound perfect.

More bass than my monitors but I don't do any professional work on them so whatever.

>>56030150
i didn't say they're bad with EQ, i said they're a poor choice if you know how to use an EQ for the various reasons i listed in my post plus the fact that they have a significant amount of bass distortion.

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>>56030249
>significant amount of bass distortion
Sure buddy.

>the hd600 has no bass meme
>the hd600 has high distortion meme
>the hd600 has shit channel balance meme
>the hd600 can't EQ meme
>the hd600 has shit build quality meme
>the hd600 is uncomfortable meme
>the hd600 isn't neutral meme
>the hd600 is veiled meme
>the hd600 has glare meme
>the hd600 has no soundstage meme

anything I should add to the meme collection?

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>>56030288
i don't see the SPL anywhere. have a proper graph.

>>56030339
>the hd600 is neutral meme
>the hd600 has good build quality meme
>the hd600 has low distortion meme
>the hd600 has bass meme

>>56030288
>>56030421
if you knew anything about measurements you'd know how incredibly unreliable distortion measurements are.

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>>56030421
94 dB SPL @ 500 Hz

Source: http://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/04/sennheiser-hd-600-over-ear-headphones.html

>>56030473
>the hd600 is neutral meme
Name a more neutral headphone then.

>>56030538
Lambda Pro w/ED-1

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>>56030473
>if you knew anything about measurements you'd know how incredibly unreliable distortion measurements are.
we can ignore distortion completely. that would just reinforce my original point about HD 600 being a poor choice if you're competent with an EQ.

>>56030508
ok, where are you going with this? are we building a collection?

>>56030029
>tad400 and tad500 are very similar to ath-ad700, but tad500 get outclassed by shp9500 at their price point.
but the tad500/shp9500 are $50-60 headphones, is there anything measured and respected that would outclass them at up to $100? hd558, some grados I'm not aware of, etc.

>>56030571
well when i say reliable i mean for headphones that actually have low distortion. hd650 consistenly have >5% 2nd harmonic @ 20Hz, hd600 have even more.

>>56030571
>HD 600 being a poor choice if you're competent with an EQ

It isn't though, and EQ doesn't necessarily guarantee fidelity.

>>56028761
I like it, it's a very good option in my opinion, but then again, so are the dt880 and the k702.
I guess when you actually test a bit of everything you don't end up trying to shill or bash anything that isn't actually bad...

>>56030698
DT880 is a good option but the K702 isn't.

>>56030599
>but the tad500/shp9500 are $50-60 headphones
tad500 are $107 on amazon right now. where do you find them that cheap?

>>56030639
>EQ doesn't necessarily guarantee fidelity.
yes it does, if we're ignoring distortion

>>56030738
>yes it does, if we're ignoring distortion
You're EQing to graphs online and your ears, it will never be an accurate result.

Only way to correctly EQ would be to have a dummy head.

>>56030712
>DT880 is a good option but the K702 isn't.
Depends a lot on what you are looking for, but sure, you don't have to like a headphone because i do.

>>56030794
all headphones are equally limited by this. what you are saying doesn't favor the HD 600.
and i'm not talking about making a perfect EQ, just something that's within a few dB of neutral across the frequency range.

>>56030904
lmao you probably have a bright amp
gotta get that tube amp with the old soviet army tubes to make that bass really shine
at least 300 hours of pink noise burn in is obviously a must

>>56030911
I was never favoring the HD600, fact is the claim that the HD600 is a poor choice for EQ is inaccurate since it covers 20hz-20khz with low distortion and bass roll off which is normal of open dynamic design

The HD600 is just as good for EQing as any other commonly recommended headphone here.

>>56030931
>bright amp
>tube amp
>old soviet army tubes
>bass really shine
>300 hours of pink noise burn in

I've got the perfect forum for you:

http://www.head-fi.org/

>>56030981
i'm pretty sure Anon was being sarcastic.

>>56030568
brb ordering Lambda Pro with ED-1 on amazon because it's in production and easily acquirable

amirite

>>56030981
I know, that's where I get my USB cable purchase advice

>>56031002
>Lambda Pro with ED-1
Anecdotal post but whatever, I'm one of the few who has listened to this setup, it sounds ruler flat in the treble and upper midrange but the bass has a hump at 100Hz and a roll-off, similar to the HD600 in some ways but much more apparent. Lambdas show this on their measurements when a perfect seal isn't achieved, If I push the pads against my head the bass flattens out.

I don't have this problem with LCD-2 and other planars.

>>56030962
>it covers 20hz-20khz with low distortion
are we going to ignore distortion or not? i'm confused.
>and bass roll off
bass roll off doesn't matter when EQed. it makes even less sense to use the stock FR as a reason for why the headphones are good after being EQed.
>The HD600 is just as good for EQing as any other commonly recommended headphone here.
you're entitled to your own opinion, but i don't share it and i'm not scared of saying that some headphones are better than others.

>>56031096
Then get your dummy head and start measuring.

Also, explain why the HD600 is a poor choice for EQing then.

>>56031113
>Also, explain why the HD600 is a poor choice for EQing then.
i already did

>>56031148
Oh I had to backtrack on the thread a bit, looked like a dumb shitpost to me. I assume it's:

>>56029718

You're practically saying the HD600 is bad for EQing because it's uncomfortable and not built well.

We're gonna have to disagree. Anyway no point continuing this stupid discussion.

>>56031230
>You're practically saying the HD600 is bad for EQing because it's uncomfortable and not built well.
didn't say uncomfortable, just mediocre in terms of comfort. you also forgot the third reason which is QC and arguably distortion too.

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Hey guys, I bought these Rank Arena SK-500's. I want to replace the audio cable since the original has a bulky inline control box on it. But the plug that goes into the headphones isn't your standard audio jack, instead it's this weird 3 prong connector...

Does anybody know what this connector is??

>Budget
€30
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
either is fine
>Comfort level
most comfortable I can get for this budget
>Past headphones
shitty no-name €5 headphones that hurt like hell after 10 minutes of wearing them

pls respond

>>56031418
3-pin female mini-XLR

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I just broke my SteelSeries Siberia Elite Prism. :(
>isnt my picture but is the same problem

>>56030738
>tad500 are $107 on amazon right now. where do you find them that cheap
apologies, I was looking at the TAD400's, which the linked guide recommends, I meant the tad400/shp9500

>>56031384
All three of your points are wrong though.

>>56031466
thanks

what are the best portable dac/amps for $100?$200?$300-$500?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBRgsWNmuM

my dick is so hard right now

>>56031451
668b semi-open, over-ear, you can put some beyer velour pads on them and make them supercomfy. Keep in mind the trebble will kill you unless you eq them.

Or alternatively get JVC harx700, they are a bit comfier but are more closed too so the soundstage lacks a bit.

668b have an amazing soundstage for the price and can be used for gaymen. Both are retardedly easy to drive.

>>56032034
>portable dac/amp in public
>carrying a huge brick that says 'hey everyone i'm a massive permavirgin faggot'

just use your phone and decent iems like any sane person would

>>56032063
How does the 668b compare to the HD 681?
I can get the latter for about €10 cheaper

>>56032076
my phone dac is shit and id rather buy an external dac than buy a new phone just for better SQ

>>56032117
what phone ya got pham?

>>56032117
We've had a similar discussion yesterday, go for something slim like the FiiO's K1, Q1 or E17 depending on how cheap you are

>>56032104
681 are bassier and less neutral than the 668b. They are more fun so to speak. Also they have a headband wich can be comfier than the akg style wings.

Also meant AKG pads in my other post not beyer as I think those wont fit lmao.

Aside from an amp/DAC, why does anyone need a shitton of equipment for their headphones/monitors? The only thing you're doing is adding to the sound, the opposite of listening to the music the way the engineer intended. What's the point?

>>56032339
what equipment?

I plug my headphones into my mobo and listen to music

Someone make a new thread with an anime image, just to piss off that faggot

>>56030339
HD600 is for poorfags who can't buy the HD650 and then rationalize it.

>>56032407
>breaking the rules to shitpost against one anon

>>56032202
Did you delete your thread or did a mod?

janny is going ham on this thread right now

>>56032461

new thread

NEW

>>56032475
>>56032475
>>56032475
>>56032475

>>56032407
There should be only one general thread. Making a second thread just to argue a point would make it bigger than it really is.

>>56032483
I expect this thread to get deleted for being a minute later than the other /hpg/ not to mention . . .

>>56032117
Have you contemplate getting a dedicated digital audio player?

>>56032505
It's completely safe. If you can't handle some hand drawn girls you should fuck off to reddit.

>>56032526
>It's completely safe.
I don't know if my boss saw the image on my screen if I would call it "safe."