/wt/ watch thread

>>55896779
Is this known to happen often, or is it just a few cases?
I do love the look of the KS, but I'd much rather pay more for a watch with a movement that won't just kill itself sometime or another.

Tell me, /wt/, why are most watch designs eye-torture? What more do you need than a black dial, small, white numbers, small arms, second-arm, and a date counter? I don't get flashy watches. They look goofy and gaudy.

I also don't get watch snobbery. My $40 takes time pretty much exactly as well as your snoody hoity-toity mememaster or whatever. This is a weird waste of money. Watch makers don't have to put that much more effort into it than what's standard, because standard is completely fine. At least with cars there's a big difference in performance. Same with houses or boats or computers. A watch just tells time, and not much better even if you pay ten thousand times what a normal watch would cost.

In short, watch threads are dumb, and so are watch enthusiasts.

Only watch bros will recognize and be impressed by a Nomos. Watch bros also happen to be the only ones that recognize fakes.
Getting a fake Nomos is retarded.

Just get a Rodina ST17.
Nomos watches aren't even interesting to look at.

>>55898115

Your 40 dollar watch represents exactly what you are. Low class with no understanding of the world around you. Put on a trip like the op so I can filter you

>>55898115
>Tell me, /wt/, why are most watch designs eye-torture? What more do you need than a black dial, small, white numbers, small arms, second-arm, and a date counter? I don't get flashy watches. They look goofy and gaudy.
I agree much though I would prefer more improved readability:
- white dial, slightly lumed
- no numbers on dial, just hour markers and a larger for 12 o'clock. Well lumed
- hands with good contrast and tritium.
- windows for year-MM-DD
- window for day. I would also like week number but only a few watches have these.
- windows should be lit by tritium. Changeover at midnight means lume is useless after midnight.
- no flash or bling.

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Just got my accutron, the strap is ahotty and I want to buy a new one, how well do nato straps fit with small vintage watches like this one? Also what color should I get to make it a bit less formal. Strap I want to get: http://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/collections/leather-nato-straps/products/pvd-premium-leather-nato-strap-smooth-black-18mm-20mm-22mm

>>55898115
Tell me, shitposter, why are you a pleb?

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>>55898380
Nice. This is the one NATO I have for my accutron. I usually wear it on either my leather band or my corduroy band. The gold cased one would look nice with a dark leather band. I think this may look nice:

www.ebay.com/itm/351630883659

I have not seen many NATOs with goldtone hardware though.

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>>55898933
>>55898380
Also, here is the ostrich strap on another watch of mine.

>>55897946

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22seiko%22+%2256xx%22+%22quickset%22

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>>55897712
These are the best watches. You look like a million bucks if you wear one. It's a real head turner

>>55898953
>>55898933
>>55898380
lose those watches look cheap as hell
>>55898990
this one looks waaaay better

>>55898201
>Just get a Rodina ST17.
Tisell is a better option.

>wearing watch in 2016

>>55899043
kek

>>55899121
>being 12 years old in 2016

>>55899121
>using an electronic pocket watch any year
>not being able to look at your wrist for the time

>>55899146
Do you also have wrist TV? Wrist phone? Wrist spoon?

>>55899161
And now it is obvious that you are baiting.

>>55899181
I have a wrist bait, I can't help it.

>>55898380
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>>55899161
Yeah, I have a wrist TV, why you ask?
Can't stay 10 minutes without my tits.

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it's done, i pulled the trigger on this citizen eco-drive all black

very happy

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>>55899926
177 EU

i did good , right ?

>>55898329
Enjoy your 20mm thick 50mm diameter watch to fit all that pointless shit in there

>>55899926
>>55899953
>>>/fa/

>>55899953
sauce on the model name, or actual link? i dig it

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new wrist novel arrived yesterday. exceptional quality for $3K.

>>55900232
I thought they came with custom endlinks for the strap

>>55900265
It does. I just have it on an Isofrane.

>>55900058
the name is on the first pic

>>55899926
>>55899953
>black on black
What's the point? Just don't fucking waste material on indices you can't even see in a high res pic.

>>55900232
Man, I like it but they really should drop the middle three lines at 6.
Just have "Tudor Genève" (and even then I'd rather not have "Genève"), and "Pelagos" and the depth rating.

>>55900232
>his chronometer isn't superlative
laughingrolexes.jpg

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>>55900232
Should have gotten the non-novel version bro.

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Picking up the new watchbox tomorrow. And the Green LM special is still up for grabs.

>>55899953
Royaly fucked up.

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>>55900725
pfft. get your eyes checked jerk-face.

>>55900812
I'd rather have the new movement and abide the added dial text than the other way around.

>>55899953
Dark as my soul: the watch

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>>55900557
>What's the point?
fashion, i'm a NEET who don't care what time is it unlike you busy wagecucks :D

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>>55901658
wagecucks on suicide WATCHE

>>55901658
>fashion
If you think that looks good you won't be able to tell good design if it were in front of your face.

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Will I get better accuracy with the 6R15 movement?

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>>55898115
Agreed. Pic related is the pinnacle of watch making.

>>55902055
>second hand
disgusting

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>>55900232
Should have gotten the blue version.

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>>55902019
Here's mine.

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>>55902181
Nice, seems even better than the 7S26.

I'm eyeing the SARX033 but it's a bit pricey. I can get a Hamilton in the same price range.

>>55902055
Noday.Patek can suck it.

>>55902218
>I can get a Hamilton in the same price range.
And it would be better because?

What was that russian memewatch called?

>>55902218
Urgh, I really hate that deca-second marking in the chapter ring, really ruins the whole aesthetic of the dial.

>>55902102
why's it look so cheap

>>55902347
It's literally the poor man's Rolex.

>>55902335
This. Seiko SARB/SARX would be aesthetically perfect if it weren't for that fucking chapter ring.
That watch still look gorgeous, though. Love the case shape.

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>>55902347
Exactly. I don't know why /wt/ has such a hard-on for the Pelagos considering that the MM300 is 50% cheaper and generally the better watch all around, in terms of finish and movement quality.

>>55902481
It looks like garbage, for one.

>>55902481
Nice meme. Pretty sure it's unregulated mate.

>>55902364
but the heritage looks good

>>55902481
now that really looks cheap

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>>55902102
already have blue Planet Ocean in Ti. Wanted black diver. Blue Pelagos didn't look as good to me in person; looked a bit cheap.

>>55902481
I had a MM. Sold it. Love Seiko, but the MM Bezel scratches, movement isn't regulated, hardlex scratches easier than sapphire (scratched mine while snorkeling). I happily paid more for the superior dive watches.

>>55902286
>day complication on a dress watch
>date complication for that matter
>literally any complication other than a complete calender(anything from triple date to perpetual), moon phase, or tourbillon in a dress watch

tasteless

Seiko shills never cease to amuse me.

>>55902316
Swiss cred.

>>55902851
First who cares, second Hamilton wasn't even Swiss, it was American.

>>55902994
>was

buying a modern hamilton because it is American is foolish
buying a modern hamilton because it is swiss is equally foolish.

they are fine though, buying one because you like them and want a cheap ETA powered watch is fine.

>>55902805
Weak baits never cease to bore me.

>>55902019
>>55902181
>worn
Do you 2 actually wear your watches 24 hrs. a day? If not, why not log every position change to get an idea of positional differences?
Also, just curious, how often do you manually wind your watch (or shake vigorously in case of the 7s), if ever?

>>55903057
>they are fine though, buying one because you like them and want a cheap ETA powered watch is fine.
Never said the opposite, the guy just made it sound like Hamilton was some top horology brand compared to Seiko.
>>55902805
What post are you referring to, the Marine Master one? That looks like bait.
>>55903074
I only wear my watch when I don't work, doesn't matter whether I'm at home or out. At night I leave it in the box dial up. I leave it like that because my watch is losing time and that position is supposed to make the watch gain some.

>>55900232
Nice try memester

>>55903205
I tried to point out that he was wrong with that assertion, the one about buying hamilton because they were swiss

>>55903402
Hamilton used to be american decades ago. Now however they're just a swatch brand using ETA movements.

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>>55903478
Make Hamilton great again.

Secede from swatch

>>55903205
>>55903074
Seikos must wind up really easily on your wrist then (or you do very vigorous... wrist work when you wear yours). My ETAs are all within 1 or 2 sec/day after full handwinding, but falls to ~3-5 sec after. I also need to keep them on the wonder for ~12 hrs a day when not wearing them (at around double the recommended TPD hence only 12 hrs), which keeps them wound at about 1/2 full wind only (since they usually stop after 20 hrs or so if I take them off and leave it).
The funny thing is that my 5246 King Seiko does not stay wound at all when on a winder at any setting, so I must wear or handwind it to keep it from stopping. Must be a quirk with Seikos' winding mechanism.
If resting, my ETA 7750s will gain slightly while crown up, and my 2824 and 2983 lose the least when dial up.

>>55903615
Will Trump buy back all of "our" brands back from the mountain Jews and Japs (and make Australia pay for it)?

>>55903660
Don't forget the Chinese, they have Armitron.

But considering how dogshit trump watches are -- no I don't think he's understated

>>55903688
>understated
Interested.

Or understated, but that's unrelated.

>>55903627
>If resting, my ETA 7750s will gain slightly while crown up
Mmh, should do some testing if that's the case since my 6R15 keeps losing time even when dial up.

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>>55902347

Poor lighting. The blue looks brilliant in real life.

>>55903702
I've actually seen it in real life, not held it in my hands, though, and it looked good but kinda cheap as well. Guess it's the design. Too much white and the indices look printed.

>>55902994
What's wrong with supporting our own industry rather than a gook one?

>>55902794
>day complication on a dress watch
12 o'clock full day is acceptable and dressy.

>>literally any complication other than a complete calender(anything from triple date to perpetual), moon phase, or tourbillon in a dress watch
>tourbillon
>complication
pick one

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>>55898953
>>55898933
I really like your watch collection, they are jumble and simple. Would you mind posting a pic of your collection soon?

Here are my two humble ones of my collection.

>>55903849
*humble

>>55903755
>our own
I buy whatever it's good, I like and can afford (in that precise order), since I'm not a retard.

I've a collection of thousands of € worth of comic books. I still buy them all at the comic store and not online even though I could save a lot. You know why? It's not because I want to "support my local shop", sure, I have developed a simple yet respectful relationship with the people who work there, but the real reason why I buy my comics there is because I want to check the imperfections and flaws of the copies they have in store and get the less flawed one.

tl;dr
I don't think autistic people like collectors (being it of watches or whatever) give a shit about things like "supporting the industry". Quality is always at the top, then comes all the rest.

Of course not everyone who buys a watch is a collector or has that mindset. Too bad for them.

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comfy.

>>55903074

SKX009 here. I usually do it just once a day for about 30 seconds in the morning.

>>55903911
People like you are the reason why Europe is such a shithole now. Really getting tired of bailing you Muslim-infested fuckers at the first signs if trouble.

>>55903804
it's essentially treated as one. a tourbillon isn't something a watchmaker usually hides

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>>55903849
Thanks, your watches look nice too.

>>55903804
also 12 of clock full day is fine, as well as a 3 o clock date. but I find that they are very easy to do wrong and ruin the dressy image of a watch.

the rolex/tudor day dates and datejusts are the only examples I've seen where they look nice and remain dressy, but those started out as a sports design

>>55903986
No, it's people like you that keep feeding the jews instead of the worthy whoever they might be that kills the market and holds progress down. If the market were dynamic there would be necessity for innovation and research.
Let's just give the jews more money instead, seems like a good idea to make the market sane again.

>>55898953
Can you post some more pics with this strap pls? Also an accutron need 18mm right?

>>55905107
It's 11/16" really. You could get away with an 18mm strap since it can compress a little bit. An 18mm bracelet might need the slightest amount of filing to fit.

>>55900896
You never replied the three times i asked for a price.
How much do you want for the lm?

>>55901011
Dude. That thing is super duper

>>55902323
Vostok amphibia

>>55903660
He can ask for payment.
I may not be australian but i live here so i will help josef collect a box of poisonous spider and snakes to send as payment

>>55896478

It's not magnets. It uses some type of adhesive that supposedly works in any watch and it leaves no residue.

>>55905782
I suppose it makes sense.
Most of the people who buy these will be putting them on shitty chinese pot metal watches with low iron content

>>55901658
BRINGING THAT FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

>>55905405
I don't waste my time with movements that aren't Superduper Chronodeal certified.

Where to buy cheap (30$-) ostrich straps in europe, the one one ebay doest ship to europe

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>>55905107
Here is the other picture I have.

Like this guy said (>>55905162) accutrons used imperial, not metric, so it is not technically 18mm, but all 18mm straps I have used fit perfectly.

Traveling to Hong Kong for a long vacation.

Should I take my Speedmaster or G Shock

>>55905387
Troublesome for me to reply every time.

But 80 plus whatever the shipping will be.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/4w06ab/watch_identification_i_inherited_a_crown_royal/

Technical question for you /wt/;

What is the term used for an assembly whereby the escapement is powered not by the mainspring, but by a secondary spring which is kept at constant tension by the mainspring?

>>55908182
>Ultra urban destination. Lots of watch enthusiasts. Low crime.
Speedmaster.

>>55908182
>>55908853
That is, unless you're planning on diving into the pristine waters of Victoria Harbour.

>>55908619
Remontoire

>>55908464
Lucky fuck

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>Omega couldn't do 20 BAR with a glass back
>in come this sketchy company called the Swiss Invicta at times because they use cheapo movements that mimics ETA's look
>look here guise 50 BAR glass back without a helium release
>its revolutionary
We both know this is full of shit, but why would they lie about it?

>>55909372
Steinhart, Stowa, Sinn, etc. are junk, the entry level of "I want to get into premium watches" is Omega a used one at a reasonable price. If you are too poor then stick with Seiko or Casio, Citizens are junk.

-somebody who used to work in a Jewelry store and sell watches everyday

>>55909432
They aren't junk, and you're fucking stupid.

Many small brands have released ISO certified divers rated from 400-1000m, carrying ETA movements of varying grades.

There isn't any wool you can pull over our eyes, the cases pass ISO standards, and the movements are ETA. The watches are out there, they perform as well, or better, than some huge brands, and they're cheaper.

>>55903737
Ive played with both irl, and desu it was the toy-ish look/feel that i really liked about it. Just something different and fun looking

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>>55908464
>he was an old unmarried dude that had some cash.
The future of every /g/entooman (except the neets).

>>55908449
Fair enough.
Postage probably tips it for me i could get it from Japan for about the same price including postage and i know how much the us postal service like to fuck people over

>>55909592
You're full of shit, they haven't even been tested. It's an engineering impossibility to have a watch that has a glass back be more than 150m water resistance. This is fact, Steinhart like all of the gucci brands like Stowa and Sinn are utter shit. Either buy an Omega or Tudor if you want to brag about owning a premium watch.

>>55909372
Look up squale factory tour on youtube by a guy called somethingfishy.
Explains everything.

>>55908619
Constant force mechanism, or remontoir d'égalité, I think.

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>>55909823
>It's an engineering impossibility to have a watch that has a glass back be more than 150m water resistance.

Plenty of companies have models like that though. Are you saying they're all liars?

>>55909432
Agreed on Steinhart b/c they make blatant Rolex homages. Stowa sort of (entry level luxury - their watches are more affordable versions of Nomos or IWC even if they're the original design). Sinn no. They focus on tool watches and technology, and most of their models are $1,500+ (most chronos are $2,000+). Citizen and Casio yes but they don't pretend to be luxury at all so no point in mentioning them.

>>55909372
>without a helium release
You're a fucking retard

Why shouldn't I get a landmaster? I want some of that supuringu dorivo action.

>>55909823
>Putting Sinn on the level of Stowa and Steinhardt
You just have no clue.

>>55909897
Because chunky. Get a snow frake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycKEP3wqv-o

>>55909886
>Oris
Yes.

>>55909912
Sinn is garbage bro, just because it cost more doesn't mean its good. Its because idiots think snake oil that costs more is the real thing while other snake oil that is cheaper is fake.

>>55909917
Jesus that's smooth.

I been looking at the chink brand "Winner" $15 USD mechanical watches, what it's /wt/ opinion on that "Winner" brand?

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>>55909949
>Sinn is garbage
kys famlam

>>55909974
Don't have to get so triggered about it Berniebro. Maybe go relax in your safe space for a bit.

Stop taking the bait fäms

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In Vietnam. Got this rep for 80$

I'm happy

>>55910032
You paid about 80 bucks too much

>>55909823
>It's an engineering impossibility to have a watch that has a glass back be more than 150m water resistance
Good thing I'm a mechanical engineer, and not a fucking lemming.

Saying that it's impossible to engineer a crystal caseback to withstand above 15bar is as stupid as claiming it's impossible to engineer a crystal watch face to withstand more than 15bar.

It has everything to do with the geometry of the caseback, and not so much the material. What do you think pressure chamber windows are made of? Some sort of transparent steel?

>>55909962
They are part of a bunch of watches which come out of the same factory with different brands, Jaragar for example.

They generally function well and dont seem to have significant accuracy problems. However, the finishing is real bad, and it's very difficult to see it in pictures. Trust me, when you hold one in your hand, it feels like a 15 dollar watch. I've gotten 3 and 2 of them had alignment problems with the dial.

>>55910256
Well I guess I will order one and see how it goes.

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>>55903402
Still better looking than 90% of all Seikos out there.

>>55910256
Thanks, I will post on Monday once DHL delivers the one I picked.

>>55910345
>hamilton will never stop putting military time and sub-second markers on their sports watches

This pains me.

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>>55910476
>hamilton will never stop putting military time

That's kind of a classic element of field watches.

>>55902742
Out of curiosity, what makes it look cheap?

Maybe I don't see it, but I think it looks pretty neat lol. I wouldn't say it was super expensive looking but it doesn't look that cheap imo.

>>55910520
It's a silly feature, the text will always be too small to make luminous, and hence will never be read during the dark hours. I'd rather have a flieger with fully-lumed numbers, it would actually be more useful in "the field" than many field watches.

Also, I'm not yet sold on the idea of "outdoors" watches which can't be taken swimming. It's ridiculous, really. Dive watches make better field watches than field watches.

>>55910903
Ah yes, the dark hours of 13:00. Very dark. Much darker than 02:00.

Question: so is Steinhart rreally shit? Or are people just trolling? Also can someone recommend me a divers with a metal/titanium band for around $500-$600?

>>55911192
Except it's not read "02:00" on an analogue dial, it's read "2", as in the number 2.

This is the beauty of 12-hour, AM/PM time, everyone knows what the fuck you're saying. Someone asks for the time and you say "quarter to 2", they realize they're not in bed, and the sun is up, so it's the afternoon.

And say I have a watch which doesn't have mil time, and instead has large, Arabic, lumed markers. I will be able to tell the time at night faster than I could with unlumed mil-time.

>>55909796
I really don't have to write a value on the package.

>>55911327
What the fuck are you even on about

>>55911202
Their titanium watch is supposedly not great from the reviews.
Otherwise, the quality of their watches is fine, but they're copy-pasted designs from more expensive brands, which doesn't get you a lot of sympathy from enthusiasts.
The Tempest Commodore is a decent titanium diver, from what I've read.

>>55911465
How much would postage be to tasmania 7248?
I don't pay tax on shit from overseas so that's not an issue

ok /wt/ im tired of the memephibia i bought a year ago. i've been looking around, but i cant seem to find a good replacement for less than 150. i want
auto and handwind
diver
not too big
i can use it as a hammer when i forget to bring one
any suggestions?

>>55910903
Second this. That's why i wear my sub as a field watch. Not just for diving or pretending I'm James Bond

W2c Soviet military watches

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Anyone with soviet watches? I got a Seiko 5 21 jewel, it's not a flashy one so I like it.
Pic related is the most "minimal" I found except I wanted with a red star instead of КГБ

>>55908464
>only Rolex and Omega
What a waste.

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ITT: Shilling and cancer.

>>55897712
Why is that big clock staring angrily at me?

>>55898203
>>55899161
>>55899495
>>55901658
>>55901764
>>55909749
kek

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Thoughts on mwc quartz watches as cheap knock around work watches?
$55

>>55909432
>>55909823
Pfhahahahahaha. The ignorance, snobbiness and butthurt of this guy are off the charts.

>>55910903
>>55911741
Since when you can't take 10 bar resistant watches swimming?

>>55911701
Add a couple off dollars and get a Orient Ray 2.

I need to offload some watches. Too many memes and cheap shit.

>>55911877
you actually answered my question properly. thanks for not memeing me. this looks pretty nice, better than the shitko i was planning to get

>>55911694
I'll be home in the next few hours and ill check.

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Thinking about getting one of these Certina watches. It's a thermo-compensated quartz chronograph. Thoughts?

>>55911870
>implying most field watches aren't 3-5 bar

>>55911956
They're good watches, but I don't agree with HAQ being used in chronographs.

For chronographs, beat-rate is king. You can get high beat-rate quartz watches.

>>55911803
Pay a bit more for CWC

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>Casio 1000w just came in
How'd I do?

>>55912176

You could have spend 5 sheckels more to get the 2000w one with mineral crystal instead of plastic

>>55911754
Check meranom

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>>55909897

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What watch does Drake wear?

>>55911956
It's a really cool movement. I've been thinking about one myself eventually.

>>55898990
Where can I find such featured watch?

>>55912352
An overdesigned one.

>>55912352

Richard Mille RM 60-01 LES VOILES DE ST. BARTH

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Which one works better as a dress watch? Which one do you like more?

I know, I know, they have a day and date.

>>55912429
They're almost exactly the same

>>55912429

Either one is good enough for everything short of black or white tie events.

>>55912429
Neither are dress watches. But both are fine. Just keep it on leather at least.

>>55912451
You don't wear a watch to black tie anon.

>>55912445
Nigga what? Have you seen the lugs? The left one is almost 2mm bigger.
>>55912445
>>55912451
Which one do you like more?

>>55912346
That's on a 3 inch wrist, right?

>>55912451
>>55912466
I'll never attend such an event in my life anyway.
What's the point of not wearing a watch with a tuxedo, the non-formal suit, while wearing one with the formal suit? I don't understand it.
>>55912452
Yeah, which one do you prefer? The left one is in good condition and it's on sale on eBay right now. It's actually an auction. I tend to prefer the left one.

>>55912526
It's nothing to do with the attire - you neither wear a watch to black tie, nor white tie, events as it implies you are on your own time, rather than in deference to your host, and their schedule. It's disrespectful to have an time keeping instrument on your body at black, and white, tie events.

>>55912566
That's not a thing

>>55912579
Then you've never read your etiquette. Wearing a watch to black tie looks fairly crude - it's almost as bad as wearing a belt. Technically pocket watches fall under the same criteria.

Funnily enough smart phones are still tolerated.

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>>55911931
I assume you were thinking about the SKX. Unless you really like the design of it there really isn't any reason to get it when the Orient has a superior movement.

>>55912593
Who gives a fuck if some faggot with his head stuck so far up his ass he can recursively loop through his body thinks your watch is "crude."

>>55912468
It's a 46.7mm diameter watch, you tell me

>>55912627
Convention is part of civilised behaviour, anon. Whether you like it or not, that's part of the black tie dress code - which is a strict dress code. It's a nice gesture towards your host, indicating that the evening is theirs to schedule and run.

>>55912661
>trying this hard to attribute bullshit to vague actions
People like this are drama whores.

>>55911754
This is a soviet watch:
>>55898953

>>55912671
Nothing to do with drama or fuss. In good company people can be expected to know their etiquette.

>>55912566
>>55912593
It's up to you to choose wheter to wear one or not, the important thing is that it has to be understated and not immediately visible.
What would the point of a dress watch be if you aren't supposed to wear one with a dress?
Black tie events are less formal, it's retarded to not wear a watch and wear one on white tie.

Show me your etiquette source.

Should I even bother with watches if I have baby wrists? I can pinky and thumb grip my wrist while also having small hands.

>>55909432

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the desperate pretensions of snobbishness fof a fucking mall jewelry store errand boy not fit tie the shoelaces of his betters.

The English language is not capable of conveying how little anyone thinks of you or cares about your opinions, now run along and go fetch one of your betters some coffee or something.

>>55912685
>Nothing to do with drama or fuss
straight denial

>>55912625
Yeah, well that's kind of what might sell someone on the SKX, regardless of Orient's movement.

I mean, that thing is just a dog. They didn't even bother matching the day/date wheel with the dial, wouldn't have been hard to make it white text on black wheel, and that Coat of Arms is a tacky as ever.

The SKX has a beautifully-shaped case, and other than that, you can change pretty much anything on it. It has perhaps the largest 3rd-party parts market of any individual watch.

>>55912661
Civilized behaviour implies understanding. Even if you know the etiquette it doesn't mean you have to follow it, that's what monkeys do. The opposite is true as well.
Basically civilization means to trust other people to be able to make a choice by themselves.

>>55912452

So basically you are saying that only something like a Calatrava qualifies as a dress watch? I mean, those already have silver/white faces in appropriate diameter cases with baton indices and no lume, so if those aren't dress watches then you must mean that precious metal casing, no angularity whatsoever, and no day complications are also necessary.

Don't you think that's getting into No True Scotsman territory?

>>55912905
>So basically you are saying that only something like a Calatrava qualifies as a dress watch?
I don't see how saying X isn't a dress watch is the same as me saying that. But yeah, the angular sports watch case is a hard stop -- it's not a dress watch, even if we were to change elements of the dial to make it more dressy. I know a lot of people online really focus on dial pictures, but the actual contour and shape of the case is significant for how a watch actually looks in real life.

We could look at so many elements of a watch and say that certain features can be more or less dressy based on certain things. Hands, dial color, case shape etc. We could also say that you need to hit at least a certain number of those qualities for it to at the bare minimum to be considered a 'dress watch.' So while a central seconds hands is not dressy, it can exist on a dress watch if that watch satisfies enough of the other dress watch criteria. Those lord marvels are not an example of that.

>>55912817
I was digging the skx design but im too used to the amphibia's auto/handwind thing. Ive owned an automatic watch before, and i found it really hard to keep it wounded

>>55912703
You don't wear a watch to white tie either.

>>55912703
It's historic convention, but if you want the end all just check your copy of Debrett's.

>>55912713
A dialogue requires a proposition, you made an ad hom statement.

>>55912871
Absolutely, and in many cases rules can be relaxed and subverted; a decorated cummerbund, for example. The convention on watches, however, is symbolic of your respect for the host, and still widely practised.

The points people are making regarding formality is a misunderstanding - dinner jackets have never been formal attire, and dinners never supremely formal events. The point is that the host has your undivided attention - the watch convention isn't a mark of formality.

There are still occasions to wear dress watches, all formal dinners (although black tie is far too frequently prescribed), dress day wear, formal lunches and afternoon receptions. The list goes on - any time you aren't wearing a dinner jacket (or a tux).

>>55913119
>Ive owned an automatic watch before, and i found it really hard to keep it wounded
Either you don't get out, or the winding mechanism in your watch was inefficient/not working properly.

I've never had a daily-use automatic stop on me, ever, of any brand.

>>55913264
I'm a fat fuck, not active and have a desk job. I have never had any problems at all with autos. Every watch I wear is fully wound by the end of the day. I never understood when people complain about keeping shit wound, especially if it's your only watch.

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My granduncles old watch

>>55913186
>The point is that the host has your undivided attention - the watch convention isn't a mark of formality.
No one who asks for my undivided attention a priori will ever get it.
Wearing a watch and checking the time are two different things. Also one information could not relate with another one, meaning you just want to know the time for the sake of knowing the time.
It should be my own choice.

All the occasions you mentioned can have you wear a more sporty watch, except for formal dinners, if I'm not mistaken. Or?

>>55913186
How about a funeral? The host won't mind.

>>55913264
>>55913388
It's just more convenient if you have multiple watches and don't use the watch for a week. Instead of first having to wear the watch before setting it you can just give it a quick wind and set the time.

>>55913388
Some people don't wear their watch all day long, or have several watches.

>>55913465
In accepting the invitation you accept the terms of the dress code.

>sporty watch.
Lunches, certainly. The rest is a matter of the particular event. Dress watches are generally more acceptable in the most formal of business environments - where you have many evening dinners, and receptions, which are not black tie. Watches tend to fit the vibe there too, and a sports watch at a business dinner does look quite crass.

>>55913525
Watches are acceptable at funerals, more so they're an elegant addition to your dress wear.

>>55912352
Probably a fake

>>55909432
>used to work

They fired your stupid ass! That's what you get for being an elitist snob, you autist motherfucker!

>>55913552
What if I accept the invitation because my will to spend time with the host is stronger than my hatred for any kind of code?

>>55913535
Or you can just shake it a few times, set it, and be on your way which is usually faster because my hand wind watches take a significant amount of turns to get started.

>>55913535
Oh yeah, I never meant to argue that handwinding isn't a useful feature, it's just that the lack of it isn't a source of anxiety for me.

Currently I wear an IWC Mk. XVI, and I cannot remember the last time I hand-wound it. The only reason I unscrew the crown is to set the time every week.

>>55913691
Then you defer to the host's expectations as you want to spend time with them, and choose to follow their code?

>>55913829
No.
I'm serious, I'm that much of a cunt in real life.

>>55913876
Then you don't follow the code, and, depending on the disposition of your host, offend them.

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>>55897712
what do you guys think about the seiko skx007 ?
i want to buy it but i can't find it on any chinese watch selling site, all sold out.

>>55913895
I get offended all the time because of my set of rules, I'm sure other people will learn to deal with it as I do.
I follow the part of the code I prefer.

>>55913920
They were in stock at Creation Watches last time I checked.

>>55913986
;_; all sold out, should i check everyday for a new stock ?

>>55912566
In which country is this correct?

>>55914002
They don't make them any more. So a few might pop up here and there but the price will keep going up.

>>55914381
in fact there is the skx007K version not the J
http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-divers-60/seiko-automatic-diver-skx007-skx007k1-skx007k-rubber-band-mens-watch-784.html

183 EU, but it doesn't say made in japan. i'm hesitating.

>>55914438
Same shit, why do you care? It's bottom line.

>>55914438
It's the same watch made in the same place. But if the employee who did the last visual check was Japanese, it's "made in Japan".

>>55898115
Too true. I would say that for most watches there are decreasing returns over and above $500. Most $500 buck watches are correct balance of value against what you get. Everything above that is waste of money, unless you have precious metals and diamonds that you can take off and sell separately.

>>55914868
What watches do you own?

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>>55914460
>>55914527

BOUGHT !
looks like a damn good watch for 186 EU !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcTxmBdN90

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>>55915064
183*
but still need to buy a NATO strap

>>55914868
>Everything above that is waste of money, unless you have precious metals and diamonds that you can take off and sell separately.
What the fuck am I reading?

A work of art is hardly a waste of money.

>>55898115
Dum ass white boy can't rock an iced out invicta cuz he got a tiny dick, sheeeeeeeeeeit

>>55914868
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55899926
>>55899953
How the fuck can you even read the time on that thing?

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I'm purchasing this vintage Omega Day/Date Cal. 1012, sky blue today for around 300 Canadian, so around $230 usd. It is in great physical condition, needs to be serviced. Can anyone enlighten me on vintage Omega movements, or more specifically the Cal. 1012, or maybe the 1000 series? I know the basics, it has hacking, quick set day/date, etc. I see it sell on ebay for quite a bit more than what I am paying for it, Whats your opinion /g/?

>>55915391
Vintage, selling for $300CA, and from the image, looks brand new.

I smell bullshit.

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>>55900232
>officially certified
Did they really need to put that on there? Anyway, you should have gotten a heritage black bay

>>55915567

It seems odd to see a Sub-like without crown guards..Not sure if it looks better or worse.

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>>55904060
> Puts a label on his watches in case he forgets that there are watches inside

>>55911694
>>55911939
After a quick check, about 20$ or so.

So if 95$ shipped sounds alright or so, i'll make a post on f29.

>>55915091
another faggoy with a shitty bracelet next to a watch. choke on nigger dix assholio!

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>>55915653

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My Tudor fever is back

Red bezel, leather vintage strap.

>>55915700
>Not one on the door
Missed opportunity nigga.

>>55915567
The black bay is shit, the pelagos is infinitely superior.

>>55915831
Why?

>>55915064
I should buy one while they're still cheap(ish), no one else get one until I do

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Should I pull the trigger?

>>55915946
no

>>55915957
why

>>55915891
No pig disgusting mercedes hands for one. It's also titanium instead of steel and has a far more interesting dial than the boring sub indices. Also as that other guy said the lack of crown guards really brings it down. The dial paragraphs really ruin both of them though, I can't see how everyone hates on AUTOMATIC but all that word vomit is somehow acceptable.

>>55915690
Edgy grandpa.

>>55916051
Probably because it's dogshit

>>55916057
>mercedes hands
cmon man
Also, 3 lines isn't a dial novel. Especially with the curved line.

>>55916057
They have the same fucking hands, are you retarded?
>case material determines quality
Who cares?

Basically you're saying it's shit just because it doesn't have crown guards. Nice retarded opinion.

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>>55915567
>black bay
hell no.
Pelagos is the watch I wanted. My Liquidmetal PO has all the shiny bits of the Black Bay and is a far more handsome watch imo.

also:
>pinky ring
opinion discarded.

>>55916124
>Especially with the curved line.
Not, but that curved line does make it occupy more space than it otherwise would have. Should it have been in 'normal' lettering, then it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

>>55916124
>>55916134
Sorry I messed up on the hands, don't know what I was thinking. I still stand by my comments on the dial and crown guard though. As for the material titanium is 40% lighter than steel, it's a huge difference in comfort.

>>55916217
>comfort
I've never owned a steel diver or a diver at all but unless it's close to half a KG the weight is irrelevant.

Of course I agree a dial busy with writings is not the best but as long as the rest of the design is fine I wouldn't care too much.

It all boils down the crown guards. Are you going to dive with it? If not why would you care.

>>55915521
Image isn't the actual photo, it was just the only one I could find. It isn't in mint condition, but it is considerably well kept for a vintage supposedly, I will see when I pick it up today, maybe I'll post a pic and let you guys decide if it is real or authentic. Seller seems legitimate, or he could be one really rich scumbag.

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>>55915798
My friend labeled everything in my room.

>>55915391

Don't. The Cal. 1012 is strictly inferior to the 56x/75x series, and the stock photo background and gleam screams to me a redialed, regarded, polished case frankenwatch.

Just say no to South East Asian vendors on eBay.

>>55916493
*Re-handed. Fucking phone.

>>55898115
Because it's jewelry for men
That's it

It's like asking why get a diamond ring when a glass zircon looks the same.

>>55916493
Regarding the 56x series, fair enough, I will have to look into that.
But the photo I initially posted was just found on a google search, which led to an eBay ad, only used that photo as it was the closest match I could find quickly. The watch itself is being purchased locally, so I am not using eBay or purchasing online at all. I will post some pictures once I pick it up, if I do, and we will see if it is authentic, refinished or modified at all.

>>55916066
And why is that?

>>55914438
It's the same watch, the Japanese version is for certain export markets I think.

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Thoughts?

>tfw watch mail arrives
>its the womens version of what i ordered
why must i suffer so

>>55917461
It's the Universe telling you that you're a little girl, pussy.

>>55917461
Post watch

>>55917484
your mother disagrees. she says to clean your room btw

>>55917939
too late, its already been sent back. ill post the proper one when it arrives. its nothing fancy, just a green faced orient

>>55912429
I prefer the lugs on the right one.

>>55917280
It looks like a mix of many different styles.
The dial seems a bit empty.

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>>55915391
>>55916788

for as far as i know, the movement doesnt have hacking (my 1012 doesnt) and its an okay movement, it looks pretty cool but as someone already mentioned (in true wt fashion) theres a seiko thats better for the price. if you like the looks tho dont let the movement discourage you.

>>55912627
>>55912671
>>55912713
For a person that will never be invited to one of these events, you sure sound rustled (or is that why? )

>>55918115
To be fair, the 56X/75X and or the Seiko 52XX cals are far better bang for your shekels.

That being said from an owner of two 52XX's (One is in the process of being sold though).

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>>55918079
>38mm case diameter not including crown, 41mm including crown
20mm lug width, 49mm lug tip to tip
9mm knurled and screw down crown
100 meter water resistance
Drilled lugs
Domed sapphire crystal with blue AR coating
316L steel case
NH35 automatic, handwinding, and hacking movement
Luminous dial indices and hands
1 Year warranty against manufacture defects

should i buy it or not. Really like the design 300€ ish.

>>55918344
>49mm lug to lug
Only if you have a 7inch/18cm wrist or bigger, since otherwise 2big4u.

Decent deal for the price and the 4R3X series movement is splendid.

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>>55918385
well without the crown its 38mm, my preferred size.
Here a pic on a average wrist.

Do you think it will still look to big?

>>55918494
>average wrist
It depends on your own wrist size.

>>55918246

Well, the Seiko 52xx and Omega 56x/75x are also two of the greatest volume produced automatic movements of all time, so them being better than the 10xx is not an insult to the 10xx.

>>55908464
Holy shit, that Daytona alone is worth what 15 grands at least?

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I'm probably going to buy a bronze Aevig Valkyr. Come at me bros.

>>55918876

Twice at least. Something like 30k.

>>55918561
No argument here, the 10XX series were made to be "budget" calibers in Omega's lineup. But even as a budget calibers they were pretty good as far as features are concerned, and they are much more common than the Seiko 52XX whilst being cheaper than the 56X/75X.

Their only downside is being somewhat weak to being abused and or just being somewhat fragile.

>>55918882
it's ok to have shit taste

>>55918494
Wow those lugs are loooong. It will wear a lot bigger than 38mm.
>>55918882
bronze is shit but the watch looks good. similar case to the autodromo group b

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Should I go for a Seiko Turtle or just save up like 80 bucks more for a sumo?
The latter has better finishing, movement, bezel action and is overall the superior watch. The bezel font has grown on me more or less.
Any reason why I should stick with the turtle instead?

>>55919216
The turtle looks much better.

>>55918882
Aevig has some nice designs, the bronze will get a really nice patina too. The Huldra will forever remain my favorite of theirs but the new Balaur looks awesome.

>>55919292
I like both honestly. I'm not sure how I feel about the 20mm lug width on the sumo though.

>>55919333
That and the bezel font really kill it for me, I'd be all over one aside from those. At least I could get a new bezel but the skinny ass lug width is impossible to fix.

>>55918344
Not bad for the price, but because of >>55918079
Looks genericas fuck, ironically.
Research QC, customer service, etc. of the brand before you buy, of course.

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>>55918115
Just got it now. Dial is original, and stated movement is also original. Aside from that, I personally don't want to pay a significant amount of money to have it serviced when it is not at all reasonable to the price I paid.

Regardless, it is a day/date, sky blue dial, has quick-set day/date, and mine does have hacking. So for $230 USD, I have no doubt that at this point there are better Seikos movements, my Orient 46A40 has been running at -1.9 Seconds avg daily for the past three weeks, out of the box, phenomenal, I think I am starting to get hooked on Orients after my first experience. But it is what it is, again, for $230 US, I think it was a good deal, considering I could flip it, maybe more than double my money. Give me opinions, I think the original hands may have been replaced.

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>>55918949
And if the guy bought it when it came out, he probably spent ~ $1,500 in today's money. Baby boomers are so fucking privileged.

>>55919216
I think you answered your own question.
>>55919333
Wouldn't just make it easier to get aftermarket straps for it?

>>55919981
It's not the privilege that bothers me. It's that they are under the illusion that they had to work harder than other generations. They are unaware that the same amount of work simply does not go as far today.

>>55917280
Not bad:

+: tidy, appears to be well lumed, 12 o'clock well indicated, clean face, protected crown, bezel looks tidy
-: no day or date.

>>55919939
looks pretty good, and if its all original, the price is pretty good.

In an unserviced state you are probably correct that your japanese watches will be better, and you can bring out the Omega as a dressy piece in front of anyone you think might appreciate it, or flip it for profit.

>>55920032
Well I do like 20mm NATOs over 22mm, but it's a pretty big and heavy watch, so it might be a bit top heavy on a narrower bracelet.

Does anyone know if aluminium bezels scratch easy? Thats my main point of concern with the sumo

>>55920040
To be fair it only really apply to American (and Anglo Commonwealth countries to a lesser extent) baby boomers though. The entire world was functionally a US colony between 1945 and 1980, in terms of resource extraction and market exploitation.

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>>55919862
was a former watch modern. Did and does a lot if hand work and engraving. Now he's starting his own watch line.

>>55918115
Sorry, to clear this up, I opened the case back to look for myself and the caliber is 1022. Not the 1012 cal. My mistake.
>>55920070
And thanks, yeah I look forward to just wearing to work, business casual, so it should suit my purposes. For the price i think it is a nice little watch, dial is smaller than I imagined, but I should have known given that I have a couple other watches this size. Based on ebay, I should be able to flip it for double, but I am starting to admire the blue dial, we will see how it goes.


Also, in general, I am testing the accuracy, the seller told me he saw it was keeping better time than he imagined, I am thinking 20+/- so far, depends on the conditions. Fully aware that Seiko, or in my instance, orient, can keep better time then an unregulated vintage omega, I don't expect it to wow me as much as my 46A40 did out of the box. But it was just a fun purchase, not going for any functional specifics.

>>55919939

That's a fairly nice piece, appears all original. I have no idea how good or bad a deal $230 US is for it though, I do know that a 56x/75x would probably for for over $500 USD in similar conditon.

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>Daily Driver: Casio Sea-Pathfinder
>Special occasions: Tissot PRS 516 Tachymetre
>Inherited: old Mirexal automatic

So if I was to replace them with 1 watch, what's good?
Was thinking some kinda G-Shock

>>55921161
That Mirexal is nice enough to warrant keeping.

The other two however, just get a Speedy or something.

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So out of the 15 brands I requested catalogs from, only Nomos came through so far.
I think I want a Tangente now...

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>>55921344
>ZE german punctuality. Ze way is should be jaa.

Want a Noms too, but a lot of people on this board find them boring and uninteresting. Don't know why. Love the Ahoi Atlantik.

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>>55921385
I love how its a stealthy diver, but even the highest end Sinn diver is less than half the price

>>55915653
You don't?

>>55921505
well they have different appeals.
I just want to support the in-house approach to watchmaking.

>>55919981
>$210 for a daytona
Now I feel depressed. We've been left a shitty world and everyone still treats us as if it was our fault. Any poor faggot with a job could have gotten one, now it's hard even if you save up for a year.