Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

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The lies. Oh the lies.

>>55888689
it it wasn't for the power draw and watt usage it'd be alright. Communities and such way overhyped it.

$399 US Dollars

>>55888689
Not cheap enough compared to the 1060 and the power draw fiasco. Might be worth buying over the 1060 in a few years, maybe. Depends on how the API wars shape up.

8gb of vram on a budget 1080p card is redundant but idiots will buy anything

the 4gb model is perfect though

>>55888749
but muh future proof budget card

>>55888689

Fuck off shill

>>55888689
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>>55888689
The chip came way overclocked which annihilated its efficiency. They should've kept to a 1-1.1GHz clock rate and pushed voltages way lower and advertised it as the 380's successor, which realistically it is. It's still selling like crazy which is good but it would have vastly more demand if they pushed it nearer to where they're positioning the 470, which by the way is going to sell as many if not more cards than they've already managed with the 480 simply because of its positioning and performance.

Too much hype, if amd release rx470 or 490 nvidia gonna cockblocked it with 1050 or price drop from 1070/1080.

>>55888689
Nvidia Gimpworks

in 3 years time when all GTX 9xx cards MYSTEROUSLY fail, we'll look back and laugh

>>55888788
*380's ultra-power-efficient successor

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>Up to™

>>55888800
>having the same card for more than 2 years
what's it like being poor my man

>>55888788
man, it even beats the 380x

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>>55888800
Double-double-quads confirm. Goyworks will abandon the 9xx line just like they did with everything (except the 750 ti for some bizzare reason)

>>55888800
That's a fine lifetime for a GPU.

>>55888827
it fucking sucks

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>>55888836
Goddamn Ncucks are brainwashed as fuck.

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>>55888861
You're right, I'm such a consumerist whore.

>>55888836

you can still play modern games on 4870s

>>55888873
Why don't you practice what you preach?

>>55888875

At 4:3 sub 20 fps you sure can.

>>55888836
my GTS 8800 is still working fine in my machine desu

>>55888836
The only GPU that I felt that way about was the 5970. It works pretty well even today.

>>55888689
It's AMD.

guys r9 390 for 200€ or rx 480 for 270€ ?
well theres also the 4Gb 480 for 250€ but that doesnt seems like a good deal

>>55888689
Nothing. It's a great card that's selling really well, and I'm delighted that this upsets you. :^)

>>55889007
if you are even considering buying a rx480 the 4gb is the only option you should be looking at.

>>55888689
high expectations for a card literally half the price of the "competition" and only using 6 power pins because AMD was fucking retarded

>>55888977
>>55888992
Working fine but unable to be used for the needs of today. My 4 year old 560ti still works perfectly too, but it can't play Dark Souls 3 above 30 fps at the lowest settings at 720p and it can't play Witcher 3 or any other demanding game now. It's not a useful gpu anymore even though it works fine.

>>55889007
RX 480
prices are lowest on OverclockersUK iirc

>Cant afford a ~300-400 gpu every 2 year
>Let alone 200-400 for a good processor thatll do anything you need for 5 years
how does it feel to live on foodstamps, AMDrones?

Memes aside, as someone who was actually going to buy one, the 6 pin shit broke me.

>>55889007
>>55889054
Or a cheap GTX 1060, which will outperform it
...lol

>>55889054
Not low enough Senpai. I want DAT $199 RX 480. I'll buy it instantly.

>>55888800
That makes 4 years 11 months. Not bad.

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>Non reference cards are still not available for anything but pre-order
>1060 carss available which are equal in price/ cheaper than the non-ref 480

AMD dun fucked up

>>55889106
tfw thinking about getting the cute mini EVGA 1060.

>>55889028
b-but muh vram!

really i just want the best price/performance card under 300€

>>55889072
this

>>55889067
you do realise the only difference between 6pin and 8pin is 2 ground cables ?

>>55889072
move to America

we actually include taxes in our prices in Euroland

>>55889117
cancelling my 480 pre-order and getting a 1060 mini

>>55889117
There's an ITX build thread here:
>>55888911

>>55889106
>>55889117
>>55889117

Any reviews on the mini's? I can't seem to find any and they're quite cheap in the UK.

I wanna buy a 480, but how necessary is to buy the 8gb model if i'm planning an upgrade on 4 years? I'm going to play on 1080p and I'll do anything to get to the 60fps. I'm on a 5850, so the upgrade is gonna be huge for me.

>muh vr & 4k performance
>muh driver improvements
>muh 8GB vram
>muh space heater

>>55889294
Cheap?
wut?

>>55889518
£240 in comparison to the others.

>>55888689
So it's either that driverless, inefficient poorfag card or the 1060 poorfag card that'll be shit in 3 years time...

Good job, /g. Good job

>>55889518
$249
$259 for the OC one

pretty cheap

>>55888689
These threads are entertaining, every time.

>AMD lies about the performance of their card
>OH MY GOD ITS THE SECOND COMING
>It comes out and everyone discusses it based on its merits
>NVIDIOTS AND KEKS ALL OF YOU

Never stop being amazing /g/

>>55888832
750 Ti is Maxwell, that's why.

>>55889412
please help

>>55890056
Why is the 750 Ti such a popular meme card? I hear of it every day.

>>55888875
I got one and nope you can't.

>>55888689
Supply.
480s sold out instantly. AMD still can't keep up with demand. Nothing went wrong as it's selling like hotcakes but that doesn't mean you can order one and get it right away which detracts buyers and pushes sales over to the 1060.
With the shit supply the custom cards are delayed to hell too. The coveted Sapphire Nitro is God knows where.

If AMD actually kept up with supply the 1060 would be selling a lot slower, their stock and profits would be higher, and Nvidia shills would be even more upset.

I hope AMD is mass fabbing Zen as we speak so when it is released we don't have this shit all over again - because you know the moment it comes out and supply dries up Intel is going to take their comparable processor and cut the price to about $50 more than zen to soak up consumer sales.

Doesn't OC at all.

Runs hot.

Insane hype.

>>55890232
It's efficient as fuck.

>>55888800
amd cards only seemingly defeat their rivals because of cpu driver overhead. with each generation of new cpu and new games being benched, minor improvements are seen on nvidia while larged improvements are seen on amd thus surpassing their rival and the amd ages like wine meme was born.

>>55890551
>b-but muh async! muh DX12! muh vulkan!

>>55890300
>don't like muh card
>shills
fuck off

>>55890742
Now, now. You cannot expect AMDrones to be sensible. Anyone who doesn't agree with them and doesn't toot AMD's horn is an Nvidiot shill.

>>55888689
>Now that the dust has settled

>>55888689
nothing
>>>/v/

>>55888873
>not practising what you profess

>>55889117
Isn't the Zotac mini smaller?

>>55890232
It's cheap, runs at a piddling 60w so even the shittiest PSU can support it, and is still capable of playing almost anything at 1080p 60 fps low/medium detail.

>>55890300
Here is a problem. It's selling to the wrong people. The 480 is selling like hotcakes to coin miners. Which means gamers are shit out of luck or have to buy nvidia. Guess what, nvidia is gonna show up in stats having 80% GPU market share and everyone will try to optimize for nvidia while not bothering with AMD.

>>55891201
>The 480 is selling like hotcakes to coin miners.
>coin miners
what fucking year do you think this is

>>55891214
2016. They are literally still at it.

>>55888971
>>55890275

I got a 4890 and it plays armored warfare , wot , warthunder and the occasional mmo just fine in 1080p. Sure you have to go with low settings but it can still run them. Haven't had time to install gta v though and fallout 4 doesn't run on dx10 cards so no luck there.

>>55891234
No they arent, coin mining with gpus died after the bitcoin crash

>>55891333
You wish.

>>55891636
No one is bitcoin mining with gpus, stop being a retard

>>55891654
I am not talking about bitcoins, fucktard. There is like a billion different coins and some of them are specifically only mineable on GPUs.

>>55891691
no one is mining anything with gpus retard stop memeing now

>>55891806
Yea, too bad you're wrong.

>>55888782
So what Pascal is 14nm

>>55891880
Pascal is 16nm

>>55891858
Yea, too bad you're retarded.

>>55888689
>What went wrong
You can find none of these on fucking sale more than a month after launch.

>>55888689
Absolutely nothing. It's amazing for $200 just as the 1060 is amazing for $250. I believe the former will age better, but they're fine choices. Now fuck off back to >>>/v/.

>>55891929
Yea okay, I'm sure denial will make you able to buy one.

>>55888800
my hd7570 fails right at 2 years when the warranty ran out.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55891880
Its 16nm you ding dong

>MOAR cores!
>i7 annihilates the FX 8350 on 4 cores

>MOAR vram!
>GTX 970 annihilates the rx480 on 3.5gb vram

>MOAR clockspeed!
>AMD cards end up being housefires because AMD has to bin the shit out of them to match Nvidia

>>55888689
>>>/v/eddit

>>55892098
>i7 annihilates the FX 8350 on 4 cores
the 8350 is a quad core retard

>GTX 970 annihilates the rx480
what ever you say buddy

>MOAR clockspeed!
AMD cards are lower clockspeed than nvidia cards since maxwell

0/10 try harder next time

>>55892151
>the 8350 is a quad core
Anon, it might fake them, but it is an 8 core CPU.

>>55892151
>the 8350 is a quad core retard
Sure it is friend, not like AMD's moar cores plan isnt what almost put them out of business so I'm sure it just didnt happen.

>What ever you say my buddy
It took AMD 2 years to catch up to Nvidia with the RX480. It's basically their (shittier) version of a 970, which is the most popular pc gaming card right now.

Also, there are more games than Ashes of Singularity and Nvidia wipes out AMD in all of them.

>AMD cards are lower clockspeed than Nvidia since maxwell
Doesn't mean they don't bin them just to get up to par with Nvidia. Just look at what happened with the Fury X.

>>55892151
Actually, the 8350 has 8 physical cores.

>>55892201
>moar cores
>b-but AotS doesnt count
Can you not spew memes every 5 words?

>>55892243
>>55892201
>>55892178
>8350 is 8 core
why is it that nvidiots believe every marketing catchphrase possible, its 4 cores you stupid niggers

>>55891290
There's a difference between running a game and playing it.

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>>55892201
call of duty and doom perform much better on amd hardware with vulkan and that other api I don't know because I'm a regular person who just uses directX. I wonder if nvidia's next architecture will be able to do asynchronous compute as well as amd can, as many more games will be using directX 12 in two years or so. I also wonder how vega will do against the inevitable 1080ti

>>55892265
It has 4 modules, 8 cores.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CPU/AMD-FX-Series/AMD-FX-8-Core-Black-Edition/FX-8350-with-Wraith-cooler/141

How many cores does it say, 8? That's right, it has 8 cores, dumbass.

>>55892294
>its x because y says it is
Is the 970 also 4gb?

>>55892311
Yes, the the 970 has 4GB of memory in 8 512MB chips on 8 memory channels across 4 memory controllers controllers. One of which has half of its L2 cache disabled.

What's it like being only able to speak in memes without even basic understanding of technology?

8350 is an 8 core CPU.

>>55892354
>Yes, the the 970 has 4GB
Opinion disregarded
the 970 has 3.5 and the FX 8350 is a quad core

>>55892365
Facts are not opinions. Just face it that you don't belong here.

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>>55892365
not the guy you replied too, but you're not even trying. you can't disregard facts

Does anyone remember the time when FPUs were optional?

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>>55892365
Since I'm fucking bored, let me shit on you by providing the evidence of you being wrong.

You can clearly see the chip tag to find out what card that is. There are 8 memory chips and datasheet for them is here http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/file/product/graphic_product_guide_nov_12-0.pdf

>>55892365
But anon the FX8350 IS a quad core.

>>55892365
it has 8 cores...

Fuck you mods. Why do I even bother reporting in this shitty board?

>>55892508
*octa core.

>>55892571
Its ok mods are doing their job making sure nobody posts their filthy chinese cartoons on this 100% American board.

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>>55892596

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>>55892478
>>55892508
>>55892553
>being this fucking stupid

>>55892620
>gets proven wrong
>tries to play it off by deflecting

>>55889294

JayzTwoCents talked about his in a podcast and said performance is basically identical to the regular ones. No corners cut to shrink the cooler.

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Is there any point in buying a 480 if I just want to play these games (and Tekken 7 when it gets released) at 1080p?
I just want seamless 60FPS and I don't care about fidelity. Currently using a 650Ti.

>>55892746
I run Dirty Bomb at 140+ FPS with a GTX 760.

>>55892746
well a 480 would give you seemless 60fps in those games, but a 470 would prob do the same thing but be cheaper, so wait for that next week

>>55888992
Bullshit, my 5970 was marginally playing games in 2013 let alone 2016
.
AMd had zero driver and cfx support anymore.
Frame times were 30+ms

Not to mention the 1gb of Vram was an issue.

>>55888722
>Communities and such way overhyped it.
/g/ overhyped it. constant shitposting of "1080 BTFO"

>>55892807
I get a low of dips even at low settings. SF5 doesn't run well at all.

>>55892987
I was wondering that maybe an R9 would be more than enough for me, but I'm not sure if it would suffice for current/next gen games (such as T7 or Lawbreakers).

>>55891290
almost none of those are modern games.
WT and WoT are years old.

LOOK AT MEMES

>>55892608
Troll image. I've been on this site since 2006 and I have never once visited or posted on any of the anime boards.

Have the AIB cards come out yet? If not, that's the issue.

>>55893012
Well then Senpai, find another 7 year old or older card that does as well as it does.

>>55893118
If you are going to be playing those then go for the 480

>>55888689
>midrange cost
>middle of the pack performance
>something went wrong
???

>within 5% range of 1060
>beats it in DX12 games
>something went wrong
???

>>55888689
Everything. It's a card made for maximum profit while sacrificing quality. Typical pajeet work.

>>55893380
Retards keep thinking that Polaris is supposed to be AMD's answer to Pascal, when it's actually competing with the 900 series.

Nobody seems to remember that Vega is going to be AMD's high end to compete with Pascal.

>>55893342
A 380 can run SFV on max

>>55892631
Anon I just went to AMD and checked and oh shit, look!

http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CPU/AMD-FX-Series/AMD-FX-8-Core-Black-Edition/FX-8350-with-Wraith-cooler/141

8 fucking cores!
Wew lads, had me worried there for a sec thinking my 8350 black was a pentium 4

>>55894014
Here's an analogy.
Intel calls it 4 cores 8 threads.
Look at it as 4 people working together with 8 hands in total.

AMD says 8 cores
What they're referring to is the 8 hands, but there are still 4 people.

>>55888689
I got the stock Rx480 for 350$ (I'm a Bojan not a Pajeet) maybe three weeks ago.
The card has decent temps, not too loud, relatively low power consumption compared to what I had till now, great performance at 1920x1200, can control the fan and clocks with WattMan but the AMD Radeon settings interface consistently crashes every 2nd time I open it.
Other than the drivers, nothing went wrong? Also, the GTX 1060 is priced 30$ more on average around these parts.

>>55894158
This is wrong and there's literally no way to change this analogy to make it work in the sense of computing.

>>55894158
Actually it's 8 one handed people.

Considering that it's still sold out for the most part, I'd have to say "not enough production".

FX is 4 modules with 4 floating point units and 8 integer cores. Was it that hard to understand?

>>55888701
Cool graphics card, Ahmed.

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>>55888689
Price in Europe
300€ =/= 200$

>>55888689
The GPU is fine by itself. AMD fucked up by not going with a 8 pin connector (this could have been justified easily with no PR hit) and by cheaping out on the cooler in reference designs. 14nm process is still immature and probably hard to work with, but it's outside of AMD control.

As for limited availability, I suppose that the shortage and inflated prices are caused by high demand from the cryptocoin miners.

But that's just my opinion.

What pisses me off is that AMD lied about the price of the 480. They never actually made any 4GB cards, just disabled half of the RAM and sold a few to get the monkey off their back. If the 480 was actually $200 it would be a pretty amazing graphics card. But AMD lied to us. the 480 isn't shit. It brought the price of 970 performance down from 300 to 240. Big whoop.

>>55888827
I've had AMD 4670 HD since 2010 and it's still up and running. It's sad really.

Looks like I am stuck with my R9 290 for the forseeable future.

>>55894613
A 300€ card is not a budget card at all. You can literally build an entry level gayming™ PC for that kind of money.

>>55888689
Does anyone have any idea how good HEVC is on the 480? does it even have HEVC decoding?

AMD has 8 gigabytes but the geforce titan has more gigabytes so i'd recommend that one.

but for you >>55892746 that play tekken you need many fps for maximum doryas so you should get the one with most gigabytes. i*d recommend the 12 gigabyte geforce from gigabyte

>>55895318
epic post!

>>55888689
not enough shills/false marketing

Is there actually proof of JewVidya gimping old cards?

>>55888827
>I have no car
>I have no dependents
>I have no girlfriend
>I have no hobbies
>I don't go out
>I don't do sports or work out
>I pay no rent
>I spend all my money on vidya gaems
>what are you poor? lmao

>>55897546
there is proof that AMD GPUs tend to improve over time whereas Nvidia GPUs don't

during the shitstorm quite a few retroactive benchmarks (eg recent benchmarks from old ass GPUs) were posted but I can't be fucked to look for them right now so don't take my word for it

>>55897613
So if I buy Nvidia 9xx series, will it have it's performance forever?
I've read a lot about Nvidia not optimizing for newer games, but unless you need to play newest CoD every year, isn't it redundant? Not speaking about flagships, but cards like 950/960 which I don't think need to be optimized for every modern game.

I've heard that 750ti is still kicking strong for low-budget card.

>>55888689
What went wrong? I'll tell what went wrong you fucking gringo, you fucks are buying out EVERY single one of them and there's literally ZERO units in my country. IT'S BEEN A MONTH ALREADY! REEEEEEE

>>55898214
The first AIB RX480's are supposed to be in stock end of August, start of September in my country.
Two fucking months after the launch of the reference card.

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>>55897613
>testers overcome driver overhead by using the latest i7
>somehow its gpu improvement
lmao I bet all these poorfags will keep their shitty gpu and buy the latest i7 each gen to get that "improvement".

>>55888689
What went wrong is I could buy an r9 290 almost two years ago for £215. Only now is the 480 only just beating that for performance to cost.

>upgraded to play new games
>all the new games suck
Shoulda stuck with the 760, bros.

>>55898249
>AMD has reputation for low and mid range cards
>they need powerful i7 CPUs to compete with nvidia

wew lad

>>55888689
The 3rd party cards aren't more silent than the reference.

>>55898240
Fucking this. It's outrageous.

>>55888689
$280 dollars in my country
for 4gb version

>>55898278
I'm going to build my first pc for playing soon. Anyone suggested the RX 480 to me, becasue I said that I wanted to play my games at 1920x1080. What they didn't understand is that I'm not interested into new games at all. Infact I'm going to get a GTX 750Ti, which is much heaper thna RX 480, it doesn't get hot and it can run all the games I want to play very well.

>>55898365
Get a used 7850. Better value.

>>55898278
>Shoulda stuck with the 760
NIgga please. It's basically a 670 and it aged like shit milk. I'm happy I got a 3.5 970 for essentially $210 after selling the game and getting the Nvidia $30. Upgrading to Vega and a nice monitor next year should be great.

>>55898365
Get a RX480 next week.

>>55898365
>RX480
Fuck, I meant a RX460.

>>55897570

Pretty sure I have all of those things except the dependant because fuck kids. You're just poor. Sorry.

>now that the dust has settled

There's your problem OP, do you ever clean your PC?

>>55898428
Sure the 970 blows it away, but when you don't even like the new stuff coming out there's no use to getting 100+ frames on older titles.

I went with a laptop because I am always back and forth at the office, etc. and I do love it. Only thing I think about is that I never use it to it's full potential because I'd rather play emulators and decade old pc games.

Not knocking the new stuff, just speaking about my own situation in regards to the topic of having older gpus. My other desktop that I kept has a 750ti and it's still more than enough for me.

>>55888689
Everything

It sucks

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>>55888689
I think we can all agree the RX 480 is the worst GPU ever made

>>55898344
Only reference available to me, somewhere around 400 dollars. Ironically not cheaper than Gtx 980.

>>55888722
it was only /g/.
it was all over /g/.
it became /g/.

I don't know how much AMD is paying them, or if we just have this many dumb people. Either way, it's crazy.

>>55898464
>>55898448
>>55898423
Why should I buy a more expensive card, when I play only old games, like >>55898626 does? I wouldn't probably even exploit the potential of such a good card after all. The only games I play now are Team Fortress 2 and Fistful of Frags and the GTX 750Ti can easily push them at more than 100 fps at high settings, while I'm going to buy a i5 6500 (which is better than most CPU used by video makers who testes those games on the GTX 750Ti) and play those games at low/med settings, because fuck good graphics, I just want great performance for my Asus VG248QE. The most recent game I'd love to play is Garden Warfare 2 and the GTX 750Ti can push it at a constant 60 fps on Ultra settings, whereas it pushes it beyond 75 fps on Low settings.

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>>55892608
Or maybe anime has become so shit that nobody understands why you keep bothering.

>>55888800
Nvidia are right bastards with drivers, they haven't released any new ones for my old 8800GT since March, eight and a half years of driver support is just a kick in the teeth.

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>>55898249
nice meme panjeet

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>>55899950

>>55893012
Yeah no, 2015s AAA releases are not playable anymore, but thats because of the 1 GB Vram, not the cards performance.

Greedy shops and not enough production.

No, really, for example in Poland, card used to cost at start 1500 PLN for 8gb version, or 333 EUR (using exchange rate from that time), if you wish. Now it dropped to 1300 PLN, but thats still referal. If it would actually cost as much as 240 USD translated to EUR plus tax, it would be great option. Instead, it turned out disaster.

Not to mention that there is STILL no sign of Nitro from Sapphire or other customs. Somebody screwed that over, sadly.

since this is a gpu thread, can someone tell me if this psu will be good enough for a 1060/480

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ACE-600W-PSU-12cm-Red/dp/B005FW1ZD4

it's in my friends prebuilt and he can't really afford to spend any money on a psu on top of the gpu.

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>>55888689
GAMER GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEE
>>>/v/

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>>55900635
Get a PSU that wont literally catch fire http://www.ebay.com/itm/232013146178

>>55891952
Well shilled.

>>55900635
That PSU is good enough to buy and then throw into the bin without ever using it.

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>>55899950
>cyka graph
>no source

>>55889040
>needs

>>55889040
Witcher 3 barely runs on a GTX 980

>>55900619
I even considered traveling to Ukraine to buy new gpu but it turns out its even more expensive than in Poland.

>>55888701
well, the competition is quite invidious. i guess they wanted to be on par.

so the 480 with 4gb runs at 250 euros
how much will the 470 run? below 200?
my 270 died recently and it worked fine for me. would a 470 be a good replacement if I intend to replace my whole system in 3 years?

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>>55898759
It isn't even the worst 480 ever made.

>>55901948
yes
because everything on the market right now will get replaced by HBM next year.

>>55901988
fermi didn't fry your pcie slot and had top performance

>>55901752
>two wrongs make a right

>>55902060
>fermi didn't fry your pcie slot
Neither does the RX 480

>AMD

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18743374

>>55902090
>water cooling
>RMA

ok i had a good giggle

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>>55902060
>fermi didn't fry your pcie slot
Neither does Polaris. Now Thermi did fry PSUs, it's own VRMs, and houses.

>had top performance
1.7% yeilds

>non reference 4GB RX 480 cost 240€
>the 8GB version is 310€
>no other RX 480 custom on store.

>1060 is released
>every 1060 is listed on the stores
>everything is out of stock or pre order.


Can someone remind me which RX 480 and 1060 are good ?

>>55888689
>buying gaymur cards
>playing video games
>in the year 2000+16

That's what went wrong

>>55888689
Outsourcing engineering to India and Shanghai.

>>55902149
No it didn't. GTX 480 had very robust VRM and it doesn't fry PSUs any more than something like a RX 290X or GTX 980 Ti does. It only has a TDP of 250W.

>>55900834
>i5 750
>x4 955
>both CPU that were launched in 2009, 7 years ago.
Why didn't they use something more recent ?

>>55902208
Fermi literally exploded on video during a review

>>55902147
MSI and a few others actually cover the cooler being removed. Overclockers have a deal wither Powerclor and MSI to cover it in the warranty.

>>55900834
Get a trip so i can filter you

>>55902232
Pretty sure that was a GTX 580 or something else from the 5xx series which was watered down. LN2 overclockers used to frankenstein GTX 480 VRM to GTX 580s to get OCs.

Also, GTX 480 was the last nvidia card which wasn't gimped in Furmark.

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>>55902060
>nvidiots literaly think fermi was anything but utter shit
wew lad the /v/ spillage is real

>>55902232
Source?

>>55902228
Because FX cpus are worse than the Phenom 2

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>>55895062
OP asked what went wrong, to which I replied that the price in Europe is ridiculous.

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>>55902307
>>55902060
>fermi
People shilling this shit are literal shills/newfags from /v/

>>55902320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

>>55902318
>>55902346
Most games back then weren't optimized for the kind of architecture that GTX 480 had. The GTX 480 is very similar to modern AMD cards, while AMD 5xxx series was nothing like a modern card. Today you can still play games on a GTX 480 at okay frame rates, but a 5870 is completely unusable.

>>55902363
That's a 590 and the clip notes the problem was with the drivers not the card.

What went wrong? Coin miners that's what.

>>55902228
So they could spread memes about overhead in the most unrealistic, contrived way possible

see >>55899950 if you want modern cpus

>>55888689
years after years bad innovation, development and marketing

>>55901549
>task has been to run games at high settings above 60fps consistently
>gpu can't do the task anymore

>>55902400
fuck off with this meme

>>55902397
>>55902398
>Oy vey goyim fermi was great

>>55902411
>>>/v/

>>55902318
>3-8 fps faster
Wew

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>>55902397

>>55902346
>>55902318
You are using anandtech's old review. The one where the 480 beat the 5870/50 in Crysis, Battleforge DX10 & DX11, Hawx, Stalker, Dirt 2, Mass Effect 2, and arguably Wolfenstein (tied at the top resolution).

Your cherry-picking indicates you are an AMDrone.

The RX 480 cannot overclock for shit.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_rx_480_gaming_x_review,34.html

>>55902450
>Oy vey goyim fermi was great
You are a fool if you believe questioning the veracity of your claim means I assume the opposite position.

Red Roosters will fall for anything!

>>55902460
in every benchmark where the fermi wins its by a small margin, in total its like 5% faster with 100% more power consumption. You really do have to be new to not remember how bad fermi was

>>55902501
>in every benchmark where the fermi wins its by a small margin
10% is a "small margin?"

>in total its like 5% faster
Was that was being portrayed in the posts I linked to? That Fermi was faster?

>>55902474
>Im not a shill trust me goyim

>>55902460
>GTX 480 was better than the HD 5870
Wew lad /v/ spillage nvidiot detected

>>55902318
>>55902346
>this AMD fag in every thread desperately defending AMD

Get a life faggot, stop being such a fanboy.

>>55902529
when that single card needs 300 watts to get 10% over a card with half the tdp in the best of scenarios then yes it is a small margin

>>55902471
>overclocking a budget 1080p chip that is going to be discarded by everyone in 2 years

Its a stop gap card for next gen memory.

>>55902532
If all you are going to do is present straw man arguments instead of actually addressing points that are raised there is no reason to read any more of your responses.

You sir, have proven to me that you are a diehard AMD fanboy whose mind is so closed that inconvenient facts have no meaning or relevance to you. Rather like all of AMD's fanboys.

>>55902562
>this Nvidia fag in every thread desperately defending Nvidia

Get a life faggot, stop being such a fanboy.

>>55902564
>when that single card needs 300 watts
Moving the goalposts.

I ask for (hopefully) the last time. What point was raised in >>55902318
>>55902346
It certainly had nothing to do with power consumption.

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>>55902450

>meme

pic related: people like this guy are mEth heads and buying up all RX 480s and mining mEth

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8186-expected-ethereum-hashrate-of-the-new-amd-radeon-rx-470-gpus/

>>55902450
>Oy vey goyim fermi was great
Nice strawman. This is how I know you're out of arguments and have mentally accepted your position of being wrong.

The GTX 480 has GTX 750 Ti level of performance. About 6-15% more in most games. Technically so should the HD 5870, but that card has no driver support at all.

>>55902566
Dont say fermi was good then and people wont think you are a newfag/nvidia shill

>>55902596
coin mining is dead just stop memeing you stupid cuck

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>>55902583
Why is your life so shit that you spend every day posting the same thing over and over defending a company that doesn't give a shit about anything but your money?

I just buy whatever card is best for my money when I cone to buy one. I don't care if that is AMD or Nvidia.

Enjoy fighting your AMD war all day everyday like the pathetic fanboy you are

>>55902600
>Dont say fermi was good
You prove you are a fool even after you were warned of such foolishness.

>>55900834
>Post this meme again
>When people point out that both the CPUs are lower mid range parts from 7 years
Never learn n/v/cucks...

>>55902600
The drawbacks of Fermi were high power consumption and shitty cooler. Reminds me of AMD these days. Why are you allowed to say AMD is good even tho they have the same drawbacks as Fermi?

At least Fermi had more performance on average so it wasn't a complete shit sandwich where the only draw is low price.

>>55902596
Some EU retailers blocked bulk buying of RX480s so actual people could get them.

They dont do this in the states so stock is instantly taken by syndicates.

>>55902631
>trust me im not bias at all goyim you are the shill

>>55902632
stop shilling for fermi you dumb newfag

>>55902596
>>55902661
Nobody mines anymore you fucking retards.

There is no stock because there is no product.

>>55902658
because the 290x didnt consume twice the power of the 780ti same with the 980ti and furyx

>>55902675
>stop shilling
Let me ask you a simple question.

Where did I claim fermi was good?

>>55902712
By implying it was anything other than a fucking embarrassment

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>>55902675
>trust me im not bias at all goyim you are the shill
Whatever retard.

My last 4 cards were 560Ti>7970>290>970

Next I might get a 480 or a 1060, don't really know which one yet but it doesn't really matter seen as they are the same price but the 1060 is the faster card.

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>>55902658
>Boards running as hot as 100C
>Somehow anywhere near as bad as the RX 480

Oh and picture related. It shows the idle and load temperatures of the reference RX 480 and FE 1060 to be pretty close. The reference 480 is two degrees cooler in idle and two degrees hotter under load.

>>55902748
290>970>480 or 1060
literally sidestepping every upgrade good to know im arguing with a complete mongoloid

>>55902737
>By implying
Let's make this clear. You can not specify any post where I "claimed fermi was good?" It isn't possible that I recognized how your links to Anandtech's old review were bullshit cherry-picking and posted set the thread straight? I have to be a fanboy of nvidia to have any reason to do so?

I'd suggest you stop posting but that's probably about as vain as suggesting you stop projecting your personal failings, such as your blind unthinking favoritism of one corporation over another, is a waste of time. It is retardedness fanboy idiocy like yours that makes AMD look like a magnet for idiocy.

>>55902748
>7970>290>970

you're actually retarded, m9.

>>55902684
overclockers admin posted they sold 2k in a week with another 10k ordered.
stay mad nvidiot

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>>55902761
Who is arguing? I'm not the one that spends every single day posting the same shit over and over defending AMD like a rampant fanboy frothing at the mouth.

>>55902791
No, my 7970 broke so I returned it and got a 290 for a little extra. I fancied a change when the 970 came out and sold my 290 for the price of a new 970 so it didn't even cost me anything other than shipping costs.

>>55902798
>Every post defending AMD has to be from the same person
I see someone doesn't understand image boards...

>>55902830
Its a newfag just ignore it and it will hopefully learn or go back to /v/

>>55902697
Neither did the GTX 480. 250W vs 190W. That's a difference of 60W

GTX 980 vs R9 390X is 165W vs 275W. That's a difference of 110W. These cards perform the same on average. The R9 390X even has a 25W lead on GTX Titan X and 980Ti and they are not in the same performance class.

RX 480 vs GTX 1060 is 160W vs 120W, difference of 40W for same performance.

>>55902758
The RX 480 has half its TDP. The high temps are a product of shit cooling, which is a problem shared by the RX 480. Both cards have unacceptable cooling in reference design.

Modern cards all go up to 70-80C by the way, they are specifically designed so that fan spins at a speed to keep that temperature in order not to sound like jet engines. So fuck off with your tech illiterate babble. My GTX 980 goes up to 75C too, even tho it has the same TDP as a 480 and a HSF which is capable of cooling a TDP of 2 times as high as the RX 480. The fan is set up to keep that temperature.

Oh and I bet that GTX 480 only reached 100C in furmark. Modern cards don't even keep their base clock in Furmark, they are gimped beyond repair specifically in furmark because of the power consumption numbers would go into 300W+ territory if they weren't.. GTX 480 would do Furmark at full clock speeds 24/7.

>>55902827
>going through any effort just to get a sidegrade

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Why are amd owners so rabid?

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>>55902830
Why are you even pretending you are not the same person? When you see the same exact posts and benchmarks posted over and over in every single thread it is obvious it is the same person doing it.

Whatever though, you keep trying to convince me you are not the same guy. We both know you are.

>>55902861
>Box reader comprehension of TDP
When will dumb nvidiots like you learn that specs read right off the fucking box aren't accurate

>>55898574
it's a statistical improbability that you have enough money to be both irresponsible with it and sustainable on the long term

especially seeing as you're on /g/ during work hours

so, like most people you probably have finite disposable income, and every single thing you buy that you don't really need prevents you from buying something else that you might want

I shouldn't have to explain this to you

>>55893230
>Me too. Newfags unite.

>>55902876
1. Why are you so butthurt that people are taking the piss out of your favorite gpu brand

2. Why are you on reddit

>>55902901
Tell me what mistake have I made in my TDP numbers instead of posting retarded meaningless comments which only reflect on your own tech illiteracy.

>>55891880
Nvidia: 16nm TSMC
AMD: 14nm Global Foundries aka shit

>>55902963
You read the box and spec sheets, stop being so fucking new and learn for yourself why you are retarded

>>55902993
>TSMC
>good
enjoy those single digit yeilds

>>55902886
>"Why are you even pretending you are not the same person?"
>Not even the person you originally complained about how they spend all of their time defending AMD
Seriously, are you really *that* new?

>>55902959
I'm not, just curious why such a small user base is so cancerous


Also only newfags hates on reddit

>>55888689
Not building the card according to PCIe spec.

>>55888861
Me and you have different opinions on what's playable. If I can't run games at 60fps/high details I don't play them.

>>55903067
Its a parody you dumb nigger most of those fags are buttmad nvidiots

>>55903006
Where do you want me to get the numbers, dumbass? I know the actual numbers for RX 480 and GTX 1060, which is what I used. Nobody tested power consumption for GTX 480 and HD 5870 using a non-shit methology and I'm not about to rig up a test bench and go hunt ebay for those cards to give you the actual numbers.
For GTX 980 and R9 390 I used reference numbers, because I know both are low balls and I don't think the difference is going to go in favour of AMD. If anything, it's worse for AMD if I get the actual numbers.

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>>55902658
RX 480 is hot because the reference cooler was built as cheaply as possible. Not because of the card's TDP.

pic related

>>55901948
Yes. I think it will be $149 for 2gb or $179 for 4 gb.

>>55902182
Women's my age are fat and have kids so vidya it is. I'm 42 btw.

>>55903095
The same is true for GTX 480. Don't you think that a decent cooler would have helped it? Because it did, the MSI GTX 480 Lightning only went up to 73C which is lower than HD 5870, reference 480 and even HD 5850 which was a very efficient card.

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>>55903152
The GTX 480's cooler was anything but cheap.

>>55903152
Only two of those cards are supported today

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>buying reference cards
>any reference cards
>expecting low temps and quiet fans

Topest of tip top keks.

>>55903152
>100c+ boards
>Somehow completely fixable with a better cooler
There were GTX 480s with better coolers, but unlike the reference RX 480, the cooler on the reference GTX 480 wasn't complete garbage. The card was just clocked to hell and back to make it competitive with AMDs lineup from the time.

>>55903198
Obviously it wasn't complete garbage, the Geforce GTX 480 had basically double the TDP of a RX 480 and it cost like 3 times as much.

For that price point, it was a shit cooler though. Granted back then cooling technology wasn't as good.
Also I don't understand what the fuck you mean clocked to hell and black. The GTX 480 had a clock of only 700 MHz and no turbo. The clock ceiling in extreme cases was 1400MHz on liquid cooling. Some people got it over 1GHz on cascade.
HD 5870 had a core clock of 850 MHz at stock and went up to about 1300MHz on LN2.

>>55903308
1400MHz on liquid cooling.
I forgot my nitrogen. That's LN2 not liquid cooling.

I'm thinking of side stepping from a Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 to a MSI (or maybe Gigabyte when the review is out) RX 480. Why? Because to get similar performance I have to OC my card so much it makes a fucking racket and uses too much power in order to get there. I've just ready the review of the MSI and it is very quiet and not too bad on power usage. I can also sell the old card on so I won't pay that much for the 480.

>>55903408
Do it, as long as you don't have to add money.

>>55903408
just wait for vega if you have a 290, you dont need a new gpu now

>>55903188
reference cards are for multi gpus and water coolers
i wish they offered more blower options because stock AMD has always been dime store garbage.

IS THERE ACTUALLY ANY CUSTOM 4GB 480 THAT IS PRICED AT 200?

>>55905046
just fucking reserve one

>>55888689
if I was in the need of new GPU I would get rx480, so I would say nothing.

I want Vega to come out already. Will the performance level be on par with the 1070 or more with the 1080?

>>55905270
1080 for small vega
titanx for big vega

>>55905682
>small Vega
There is only one Vega, small Vega will not happen because of the 1080 and Titan X and Pajeet had no more money to spend after buying a street to shit on.

>>55893431
Why on earth would it be retarded to think AMD would maybe try to compete with cards that aren't nearly two years old?

>>55906226
There's supposed to be a Vega 10 and a Vega 11.

>>55906459
Hes just a shitposter, ignore it.

>>55906459
It will probably be
Vega 10 full = TitanX
Vega 10 cutdown = 1080
Vega 11 full = 1070
Vega 11 cutdown = 1060

>>55902168
EVGA GTX 1060 SC

small, cool and cheap
Also EVGAs support is the best

>>55906882
>Vega 11 cutdown = 1060
the 480 already beats the 1060 in anything that had a modern api or doesnt use gaymewerks

>>55906955
Time Spy?

>in4ignorantnotrealdx12

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>>55906955
>the 480 already beats the 1060

I haven't been keeping up with the GPUs this year. Could someone fill me in?

>>55906955
In modern APIs yes it is better than the 1060 however a lot of reviewers use old API games and don't make any mention of the 1060's issues in DX12/Vulkan

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>>55906955
>shitty overcloking
>shitty temp. and power draw
>only beat the 1060 with doom/vulkan when you have a good cpu

yeahhhhh

>>55906977
>hardware unboxed
Is this the go to source for nvidia shills nowadays? find me a averaged percentage where half the games tested aren't gameworks shit

>>55906989
>the 1060's issues in DX12
Which would be?

>inb4ignorantpascalcannotasync

>>55906989
the reviewers use old apis and have 3/4 of the games they benchmark gamesworks games because they are shills, how fucking hard is this to understand.

>>55907024
Not supporting about half of the features of directx 12

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>>55907012
The average with 15 games...

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>>55906983
Nvidia released a highly clocked die shrunk Maxwell with some minor tweaks and VR stuff.
Priced through the ceiling and unproducible in the needed volumes. Fastest cards currently on the market.

AMD released there Budget RX cards designed for cheap and easy manufacturability and mass shipping to OEMs while store shelves are being annihilated by buttcoin miners buying up all the cards. Better in the newest APIs DX12/Vulkan and worse in DX11.

Nvidia shills shitting up the place as usual.

>>55907053
and 10 of them are gameworks, and there are not games being tested in vulcan or DX12

>>55907012
>ashes of the singularity (dx12+async shaders)
>the 1060 is faster
>HUR DURR SHILLLL

>>55907042
[citation needed]

>>55907078
>10 of them are gameworks

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/5.html

>>55907073
I would go for an RX 480 if it wasn't so inefficient. I'm not exactly NEET but I only work part time and spent a lot of time at home.

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>>55906955
0/10

>>55907106
ok its 9 but i wasnt far off

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>>55907122
>more cherry picking and shilling

>>55907127
>ashes of the singularity
>dx12 tomb raider
>cherry picking

>>55907164
>dx12
>tomb raider
its a wraparound, its not full dx12

>>55907122
ROTTR is known to be a SHIT dx12 implementation. You should NEVER see a performance regression on DX12. The whole point of DX12 is performance.

>>55907947
>inafterignorantpascalcannotasync