/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>55875343
>>55875300

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FAGGOTS USING??

FreeBSD has less autism than Gentoo and has ports
Arch has less autism than Gentoo hand has ABS

No reason to run Gentoo these days

>>55875311

My question from the previous thread

Do Ubuntu derivatives run the same under the hood?

Would there be any sort of incompatibilities with software on a derivative versus the main distro?
Also, are .deb packages compatible with Ubuntu and *buntu?

>>55875357
Don't select the UEFI one, does some random shit

How can I spoof bittorrent upload data on Gnu/Linux?

All the ways I've seen use windows shit

How do I patch a package? https://github.com/ashinkarov/i3-extras

Favorite DE?

>>55875615
The one I'm using.

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>>55875430
Alright, this screen is kind of confusing

There seem to be repeats of the same option?

I just want to install it

>>55875312
How hard is it going full freetard? I've got no gaymen or proprietary software holding me back anymore. Thinking about taking the plunge, but I can't lose youtube and 4chan. What say you /g/entoomen?

>>55875648
Hit enter. "Default" is fine.

>>55875667
To what extend do you require a website to be free? Do they have to publish their entire server-side source? How could you verify that that is what their server is actually running?

>>55875985
When I do that, a flashing cursor appears in the left corner and nothing happens.

Does this process take a long time, normally?

>>55876101
No, it does not. Not in my experience, anyway.

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>>55876101
Scratch that

>>55876134
One step closer. :^)

>>55876134
Try to exit the shell.

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>>55876164

>>55875590
git apply foo.diff

>>55876134
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/61432/why-wont-fedora-install-on-my-laptop/
Seems to have the same problem.

live-rw does not exist, which is probably a problem with the USB creator.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
provides some useful USB write tools that should work.

>>55876205
I will check this out in the morning, thank you for the tip

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Does anybody actually use Linux as their main operating system, especially on your PC and not memepad?

It was interesting to scroll through the BST thread and notice that literally nobody in them is running Linux. What gives?

what do u anons think of manjaro... seems to be a lot of arch cucks around /g/ so im curious to why its rarely mentioned here


mostly its all gentoo/arch/debian/ubuntu/mint

>>55876375
>>55876219
Mint (cinnamon) is the only Linux distro worth using on a daily basis. When you see people pushing Gentoo or Arch it is just trolling.

>>55876219
battlestation threads (aka desktop threads) are for /v/ transplants

>>55876219
see>>55876424

/bst/ != /g/

>>55876219
People who want to show off their Linux systems do it in the desktop-threads.

Both are shit and you should have realized that on your own.

>>55875615
XFCE

>>55875615
I unironically like CDE

>>55875615
MATE is objectively the best DE at the current time, it has the most active development and strongest stability compared to the alternatives

>tfw not cool or clever enough to come up with a good host name

>>55875615
KDE.

>>55876219
Debian is on all my machines, windows on one. I only boot into windows every ~2 months.

>>55875419
Yes.
No, except if the software was made for Unity (e.g. Unity Tweak Tool)
Yes.

>>55875648
Default.

>>55876219
I do. Full time Linux only since 2011.

Can everyone please stop recommending unetbootin forever? Thanks

>>55876219
4 months Linux only, no Wine, no Windows.
Going to reinstall Win7 just for occasional video games because I've played nothing but Mines and Supertuxkart since then.

>>55877876
I don't think anyone here has ever recommended unetbootin.

>>55877916
>4 months Linux only, no Wine, no Windows.
>Going to reinstall Win7 just for occasional video games because I've played nothing but Mines and Supertuxkart since then.
There are quite a few decent GNU/Linux games on GOG.

>>55877945
I know, but none of my favorites are.

>>55877945
>>55877952
Clarification: most of my favorites are on GOG, but only for Windows.

>>55877952
Happens, you can slowly make it better by not buying games without native ports in the future.

>>55877973
Try to stop me.
If we're lucky we'll get more games using an open API in the future so chances are ports for Linux become more common. Until then, I don't want to miss my favorites that I already bought.

>>55875312
I have Manjaro installed on the testing branch, but I noticed that screenfetch never updates the OS version even though I'm updating to new release versions of Manjaro. Is it just a bug with screenfetch or what?

>>55876219
I'm using gentoo as my main op, comfy as fuck

>>55875312
I know it exists because I've heard people talk about it, but is there a specific name for a program where you serve music from your computer and stream them onto your device over your network? This isn't MPD, is it? Would MPD's documentation tell me how to do this?

>>55875615
KDE but only because >muh thumbnails
Aside from that Xfce

>>55875352
the one I'm using.

>>55875615
i like GNOME as an DE but prefer to use dwm

new here

vulkan going to happen or nah?

photoshop port ever happening in your opinion?

approx how many simple windows programs work with wine?

thanks in advance

What is it about networking that makes it so exhausting? How else would I learn why I can't access my Apache server from my phone? What's your favorite Linux networking book?

>>55878293
>vulkan going to happen or nah?
Yes
>photoshop port ever happening in your opinion?
No
>approx how many simple windows programs work with wine?
What do you mean with how many? If they're simple then they would probably work but I've never used wine so I'm not sure.

>>55878293
>vulkan going to happen or nah?
already happening big time, read about how many engines already implemented it or are working on it.
>photoshop port ever happening in your opinion?
hopefully not
>approx how many simple windows programs work with wine?
a metric fuckton, but why would you use them if you have well maintained native programs?

>>55878293
Learn generic application names and you won't need to practice brand worship. Now answer my question.

why is my virtualbox so slow?

>>55878475
>?
bacause you use the wrong settings or a shitty virtualbox?
what are you trying to do, on what, how and what do you expect?

>>55878475
The answer to your question is the fact that you have to ask it.

Ok guys, I've dabbled in Linux before, I use it a work and I'm not scared at all by CLI, I own a dedicaded server\seedbox, etc.

I never installed on my home destkop though and I want to change that.
The reason I stuck with Windows is basically photo editing and (not now, but possibly in the future) video editing.
Now I've got a couple of days to set it all up and I want to use it at home basically to have better integration with my seedbox (for example running rsync scripts, sshfs).

What would you do? Dual boot or install W7 in a virtual machine?
My sistem is extremely low power (AMD A8, 8 GB RAM, 128 GB 840 PRO + a couple of HDD) so I'm not sure a virtual machine will work smoothly.

>>55878524
cinnamon mint current version
oracle VM virtualbox
i expected 80-90% speed of my current dekstop, what i got was around 30%. also firefox wouldn't open.

>>55878544
friendly linux thread
friendly

>>55878563
>oracle VM virtualbox
try quemu-kvm, 90% in a VM is unrealistic if you have nothing to pass through.

>>55878475
Your hardware is shit but virtual machines are also not that great. Try dual booting.

>>55878553
Don't install Windows in a VM for photo and video editing, the performance would be too bad. Dual booting would be a better option.

>>55878553
Use different programs for editing. Blender, GIMP, inkscape, krita, cinelarra. This way you can just ditch windows. There is a high chance you will adjust to them sometime anyway so why not do it now?

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>>55878570

>>55875615
none

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm
https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm
https://github.com/windelicato/dotfiles/wiki/bspwm-for-dummies
https://manjaro.github.io/Manjaro-BspWM-15.12-released/

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My wifi completely dies at random roughly very 6 hours or so.

Running Kubuntu 16.04 Xenial

nmcli says no networks are available

sudo iwlist scanning throws up a "resource temporarily unavailable"

journalctl shows the following right before the drop

wpa_supplicant[3398]: wlp7s0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx reason=0

Whats going on? Please help me fglt, you are my only hope.

>>55879545
Does this happen in Windows? If so, you probably have a hardware problem in either your wifi card or the access point.

>>55879575
The access point is fine (none of my other devices disconnect)

>Windows
I don't own a copy of Windows.

>>55879590
Can you tell us what chip that is? Maybe there is some info about it somewhere.

>>55879629
lshw says it's a BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter

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>>55876219
>It was interesting to scroll through the BST thread and notice that literally nobody in them is running Linux. What gives?
Welcome to neo /g/, aka /v/'s toilet, and because /v/ doesn't know anything about tech in general, they buy hardware and circlejerk about GPUs, speccy and battlestations, create nothing to hide threads and post frogs.

>>55876219
/desktop thread/ actually got 99% GNU/Linux users

What's a good music player that is similar to musicbee?

In particular I'm looking for something that can import all my playlists and also keep them in their corresponding folders.

>>55880179
I've just been using foobar in wine. Kill me.

toss-up whether to ask this in /sqt/ or /flgt/

I have a flash drive that I've used for years to install various Linux images as well as everyday file transfer. Every now and then it gets fucked up because I've messed with the boot record or the partitions and the easiest way to make it Windows-readable again is just to completely format it from Windows.

This time though, Windows isn't recognizing it at all - doesn't show up in explorer, or in the Disk Management graphic tool, or the diskpart command line utility. BUT Linux recognizes it, mounts it, and reads and writes it just fine - so I'm fairly sure the drive isn't dead.

What I have to work with: a little bit fucked up default install of Ubuntu 16.04 (installed it on old computer and then immediately started bootstrapping Arch from it, computer froze, force restarted, it said something about an emergency and dropped me into the Ubuntu root shell and X and the the network appear to be broken but everything else works) and Windows 10.

What I'm trying to do: get the flash drive recognizable by Windows so I can use Windows to install a Linux rescue image on it that has network connectivity so I can keep going with the arch bootstrap.

What I've tried:

$ sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sdf    # destroy the GPT and MBR data structures and exit.

result: "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory... GPT data structures destroyed! You may now partition the disk using fdisk or other utilities."

$ parted /dev/sdf mklabel msdos    # create a new MBR/msdos partition table for BIOS systems
$ parted /dev/sdf mkpart primary fat32 1MiB 100%    # create a fat32 primary partition that fills the disk

didn't result in a readable drive in windows though. I also tried again using the --zap flag for sgdisk (delete only GPT, not MBR structures) but no go. I know my windows machine boots with MBR/BIOS, not GPT/UEFI, but idk if that matters on removable media.

Any suggestions?

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>>55875615
Xfce

Can someone help me find a LUKS cryptsetup tutorial to encrypt my Linux install

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when does the new BLAG drop? ive been waiting for awhile despite it saying "coming soon", and the forum is a ghost town. worth the wait or try something else?

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bump

Why i cant use ssh user@server on Arch
why anons, tell me, why

>>55880631
I wouldn't count on it, shit's dead

>>55881153
How about actually saying what the error is

>>55881196
it was not installed
he he he he he he

>>55881196
but you can tell me how to mount server folder on my hdd, i forgot how that was done

>>55881209
haHAA! xD

>>55876219
try checking in /dpt/ instead, because you would need to be retarded to program on windows

BST is closeted /v/

What is /g/'s opinion on Pepper Flash Player (PPAPI) for a Chromium based browser, and the freshplayer plugin for Firefox. Are they safe alternatives or should they be avoided altogether?

>>55882097
purge all traces of flash

So, I wanted to play some all the Pokemon games.
Could you guys suggest me a good Game Boy emulator that work on Ubuntu?

What's a good Linux OS for a beginner trying to learn the OS for Linux+?

>>55882284
Ubuntu.

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I still don't get it, why won't keepassx2 work on my system. I've literally made dummy databases with one character passwords and it always claims that I have the wrong key or that it is corrupt. Repairing them never works. I don't want to be stuck on version 0.4.

>>55882158
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#Game_console_emulators

>>55880582
Just used to this last week, took me 2 seconds to find it senpai. Step your google game up.

https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/wikis/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

>>55882097
Being friendly:

- remove chromium. realize that all current browsers are trash and install the lesser evil: firefox nightly, tweak your about:config to make it secure

- don't use flash, you don't need it since 90% of the web switched to html5 and opening security holes on your pc for 10% of retarded webdevs isn't worth the hassle

- use mpv to stream your shit, it's the most comfy way to enjoy streams without useless flash cpu cycles and related garbage

tl;dr >>55882141

http://occupyflash.org/

>>55882284
Schmubuntu is the best babby OS, run it till you feel secure enough, if so, install Debian, since Ubuntu is lying and spying corporate garbage.

>>55882326
Passwords belong into your brain or a gpg secured txt file.

>>55882326
time to move to pass pham

but i guess if you want to figure it out, how are you installing it? did you try keepass2?

What DNS resolver does /fglt/ use?

>>55882097
werks for my lewd text games that are still on flash.

>>55882440
Have you tried Gnash?

Alternativly, if you really need to keep flash for fapping to animu, at least run it in a sandbox and disable it for your browser, faggot.

>>55882382
>gpg secured txt file.
I will actually give this a try, thanks.

>>55882464
yes, didn't work.

and no, don't tell me what to do unfriendly faggot

>>55882435
DNSCrypt

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>>55882484
Have some cheating.
>>55882488
Try firejail, you literally just prefix any program with it.
firejail firefox (with enabled flash profile) fap.swf

>>55882530
N-no I am supposed to read the man page and then hate myself for making a silly mistake and try to kill myself because my medication isn't working.

>>55882513
Looks promising.
Any easy retard frienldy setup guide?

>>55882579
depends, i don't think DNS resolvers really can be "retard friendly".

>>55882530
>Fuck le gubberment xDD fight da powah

Sudo apt remove yourself

>>55882530
fine i'll give it a shot.

>>55882601
bootlickers not welcome

>>55882382
>Being friendly
Thanks for the info friend

So what's the point of using a shell script other than bash? I am generally curious.

>>55882635
because special snowflakes

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>>55882601

>>55882635
*genuinely

>>55882617
>>55882660
Nah fuck off. If you encrypt at all you might as well be a terrorist or communist. Ain't nobody got time for that.

>>55882382
>use mpv to stream your shit
One more question. When I use the 'open using MPV' option for streaming, I still have to wait for the file to download. Is there a way to make it start playing immediately without having to wait for it to download?

>>55882762
What? Mpv streams it by default.

>>55882635

Listen here niga:

There's a huge amount of people who prefer zsh or even fish to bash. There are several reason why they do it:

- They have seen it on a screenfetch and want to be with the cool guys
- They are macfags, too retarded to update their outdated bash and prefer to switch instead
- They actually make use of the interactive improvements

The truth is: 90% of zsh or fish provides can be done with bash if you read the manpage, but the 10% can be useful (for advanced users):

- extended globbing
- autocompleting args, parsed from manpages
- syntax highlighting

This makes sense for oldfags, but oldfags would never try to write a zsh or fish script and here is why: The ZEN of scripting is being portable as fuck, which means, the shell your should write scripts for is /bin/sh. This is why bash is the "babby distro" stage of shell scripting, since it is full POSIX compatible, but with with lots of extensions. The maximum of compatibility you can get with zsh is ksh, fish isn't even POSIX compatible, so the best thing you can do is:

- choose your shell for intertactive use (bash, zsh, fish)
- but script in POSIX compatible sh

On the other hand you could just don't give a fuck about other people and write a fish/zsh script.

I've been fucking around with some Optical media i've had for years in linux. Most recently i was trying to clone a windows 7 retail disk (its actually a clone itself). linux seems to refuse to recognize that this disk has information on it. This is not the first time this has happened to me with a disk before either. Are there some optical media formats that dont work with linux mint out of the box?

I know the cd has shit on it because i physically moved the Disk drive to a windows computer and put in the cd and the information is there.

I am super new to linux as a whole so it might be user error. anything you can think of for me to try?

>>55882743
ah got nothing to hide then?

better leave this https site then

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So I have ISO file of a DVD.
When play it with mpv it isn't possible to choose what subtitle/audio track to play, while it's possible under VLC.
Any ideas how to solve it or at least extract the subs from the ISO?

I figured out how to turn of my webcam on boot because tape is gay, but how to turn off my microphone? Any hints?
Webcam: sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo

About to try Gentoo, but I could use someone to check if I've understood the ISOs correctly.

>"minimal" is the netinst and includes multilib
>"hardened" = "minimal" + extra security
>"no-multilib" is for when you won't be crosscompiling
>"uclibc" is a glibc replacement for embedded linux systems, but is now also considered suitable for amd64 desktops

What I can't seem to find out is this: the uclibc ISO is very small, so does it ONLY contain uclibc and is meant to be used as an addition after Gentoo has been installed? If so - why has it been bundled in with the Gentoo-ISOs like this?

And finally - what is the Admin CD? I found one forum thread where someone "guessed" that it was just the normal install + some extra firmware, but that hardly seems reliable, and I cba comparing the CONTENTS files line-by-line. Spoonfeed me?

>>55882903
>hardened
This is what you want.

>>55880357
single bump; i'm still here

>>55882929
Could you post a tl;dr?

>>55882811
It's downloading them to tmp and doesn't play until the dl is finished. I just installed the 'Watch with MPV' addon and it works so w/e.

>>55882635
I started having a play with zsh the other day. The best thing is the cool file path completion.

to get to

/home/anon/Documents/foobar

Bash:

cd /h<tab>a<tab>Do<tab>fo<tab>

zsh:

cd /h/a/d/f<tab>

The rest of the stuff I've used in zsh I already had in bash, but I didn't have to set it up in zsh so that was neat (the git aliases like ga instead of

git add

and showing the branch and if it's clean or not in the prompt).

>>55882941
my flash drive doesn't show up at all in windows and it works fine in linux. I've tried wiping the partition table info with sgdisk and then formatting it with parted but it hasn't worked.

What I want is to know if I've understood things correctly or not, dude

>>55882996
meant for
>>55882920

>>55882951
Replacw it /w "Open with" and add some nice script like youtube-dl %s etc.

>>55883038
When I select "Open with [mpv Media Player (default)" it still downloads to tmp.

>>55882743
give me your credit card information, along with the passcode, since you have nothing to hide

>>55882382
>nightly

That shit was breaking all the time on me when I was using it a year or two ago. How is it nowadays?

>>55883140
Not an argument.

>>55883195
oh, what's the matter? got something to hide?

>>55883195
MODS

>>55881191
>I wouldn't count on it, shit's dead
fugg, ill try something else then and on a cd to test the waters before I fuck my shit up by being new. thanks m8 I was getting tired of waiting anyway

Linux is fucking trash. Use *BSD

>>55882893
gnewb here. isnt the contraversy that hardware manufacturers are compromised as well? so they could just use higher/deeper levels of access that users normally dont have in order to get around anything we do?
for instance even faceberg's guy uses tape over his webcam

>>55883405
You forgot to add

3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
   must display the following acknowledgement:
     This product includes software developed by the University of
     California, Berkeley and its contributors.

To your post. :^)

>>55883580
>even faceberg
Implying this guy has any idea about computers.

Maybe an unusual question, but does anyone know of a decent GPS navigation device that doesn't run embedded Windows and won't send all my shit back to Apple/Google/NSA like a phone's GPS would?

>>55883587
Literally nothing wrong with this

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>>55883694

>>55883182
diff anon. did you have auto updates left on? i heard that makes it unstable
>>55883613
thats a fair argument but what I meant to really say is that "even someone with near unlimited resources doesn't trust the hardware he uses". still going down to the most available level access we as consumers have in order to do whats possible for security is a very legit thing to do, but am i correct that as far as I know all hardware, except some private ones, are already fucked?

>>55883721
Not an argument.

>>55883729
>did you have auto updates left on?

What do you mean?

>>55883694

You just broke the very same license you're defending. Your argument is invalid now, because you're a hypocrite.

>>55883746
nightly, being the developer version of FF, has some extensions auto configured to autoupdate bc "muh bleeding edge", many people who use nightly about:config remove that shit bc they dont like FF telling them whats important.

im excited to see what ff49 has in terms of anti figure printing techniques which they said would be auto built into the browser. I wonder if its anything new or if things we already do

>>55883805
So then what's the point of using nightly if you're just stopping up dates at a "stable" version?

Which distro is the most fun to play around with?
Which distro is the best for personal security?
Which distro makes you feel the warmest inside?

>>55883823
Void Linux
Void Linux
Void Linux

>>55883819
getting to pick and choose and play with which "cutting edge" features you want to use rather then wait for it

>>55883823
>Which distro is the most fun to play around with?
Kali (or Debian)
>Which distro is the best for personal security?
Tails (or Debian)
>Which distro makes you feel the warmest inside?
Debian (or Debian)

>>55883823
The one I'm using
The one I'm using
The one I'm using

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Babby's first Linux install, doing it on an x220. What distro is good to start with? I've heard Mint and Ubuntu are good but it's better to go with something more complex to learn faster

>>55883823
mine :^ )
mine :^ )
mine :^ )

>>55883926
Totally insecure: Ubuntu
Average intelligence: Debian
Cool: Debian netinstall

>>55883926
my experience was that there was plenty of learning to be done with ubuntu - say, for instance, how to install graphics card drivers or how to get a particular piece of software that wasn't in the software tool and you have to add a ppa and install (or possibly download, compile and install). Ubuntu will be plenty strange, probably.

>tfw i want to install xubuntu on a windows 10 laptop
>laptop has AMD drivers
>can't go in xubuntu in dual-boot mode because it gives a stupid error

is there any hope in install linux on this HP notebook ( the model is HP 15-AB102NP)?

>>55883926
Mint is garbage. No idea why it's recommended everywhere. Devs are incompetent, can't secure therir servers (google "Mint hacked") and need to block updates so their distro doesnt shit itself.

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Anyone else notice a slight delay when opening Cinnamon's menu applet?

I don't know what's causing it, but when I tick this box, it opens instantaneous when I move the mouse over the panel.

It's not like it's opening on release of the mouse click either, I can click and hold and it will still open in about (I'd guess) half a second.

>>55884076
>Cinnamon
People actually use this?

>>55884111
It's comfy, for the most part.

>>55883989
try fedora or plain ubuntu, both have good support for all sorts of hardwarez

>>55884145
but i like xubuntu better than ubuntu, and its less bloated

>>55884296
when you say bloat, do you also mean "snappier" or simply comes with less useless stuff?

>>55880357
[resolved]: burned a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD and ran TestDisk from it on the flash drive to write the MBR and fix cylinder alignment, then gParted to write a fat32 partition. After doing this, the flash drive was recognized by windows in one usb port but not the other. I'm not sure what's up with that usb port - my wireless mouse runs just fine with the dongle in that port - but whatever, my flash drive works.

>>55884369
well, its well known ubuntu comes with unity which is heavier.

xubuntu is a lightweight version of ubuntu, because it doesn't have Unity but xfce, and comes with less useless stuff

>>55884429
oh okay got it, thanks m8

>>55884429
with some effort, you (he?) should be able to install, say, server ubuntu and then xfce on it. or regular ubuntu and then remove unity and put on xfce. etc.

Is there a way to unredirect full screen windows with Mutter yet?

>>55884625
Install gentoo

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is it too hard to make your own screenfetch?

>>55884901
It's just pretty pointless

What are some of the fastest desktop environments?
The slowest?
The more unstable/stable?
(I'm on Ubuntu)

>do minimal install for the first time
>don't know what to install
what utilities do I need? I already installed xorg and sudo. Alsa or Pulse audio?

>>55885161
both

>>55885161
Are you me?

I wish there was a checklist of stuff. I feel like I'm missing something or installing the wrong or inferior things. I understand Linux is all about choice and preferences but surely there's some objectivity to it.

>>55885161
>>55885224
use this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations

>>55885224
>I understand Linux is all about choice and preferences
>but surely there's some objectivity to it.

Sorry, but Linux is all about choice and preferences. There is no objectivity to preferences at all. I don't think you really have this choice and preferences part comprehended yet

>>55885260
Thanks. That helps. I still wish there was a more objective list of programs/packages that are superior.

>>55885313
Yet people all the time bicker about distros. Posts like yours don't help at all. Certain programs simply have more/better features than others.

>>55885161
>minimal install without knowing what you need
just install a de and use the utilities from your WM while you figure out what you want.

Just installed Arch. How do I access the AUR through terminal? I've heard of yaourt, should I use that?

Also, if I did use a pacman frontend like yaourt, would there be any point in using pacman anymore?

>>55885161
>>55885224

For me it the necessities include:
>install distro of choice
>pulseaudio
>pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils, pavucontrol
>xorg, xorg-xinit, xterm, xorg-twm
>ffmpeg
>DE or WM of choice

The rest can be found here >>55885260 for the most part.

>>55885367
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR#Installing_packages

>>55885328
This is 4chan, it's simple my opinion > your opinion just like on other boards.

As for features, you might count them, but are they really better?

>>55885328
For example, I'm trying to decide which DE/WM to install. I want a visually pleasing (customizable), yet snappy and productive environment.

I've seen some cool XFCE setups but is it as fast and "productive" as some of the more minimal WMs?

>>55885367
Go to the package's AUR site
Download the snapshot and open terminal in the directory
tar -xvf PACKAGE.tar.gz && cd PACKAGE/ && makepkg -sri

>>55885456
nothing can beat i3

>>55885431
I just want justifications for those opinions.

This "live and let live" attitude that the Linux community has doesn't really help newcomers who are trying to make their first decisions. The vague "whatever suits your needs" doesn't help either.

What distro will most make me feel like I'm in the movie Hackers?

>>55885367
1. open /etc/pacman.conf as root
2. add this to the end:
[archlinuxfr]
SigLevel = Never
Server = http://repo.archlinux.fr/$arch
3. Open terminal and type: sudo pacman -Syu
4. then sudo pacman -S yaourt

Now you can use yaourt to search for packages on AUR by typing: yaourt <package name>

>>55885496
gentoo or arch with no X11

>>55885509
Not enough flashing lights and gaudy colours though surely?

>>55885531
Maybe he thought of movies from the 80s

>>55885488
For example, if we're talking about Linux distributions everyone will recommend Ubuntu or Mint. Should I base my decision off of how many people are using the distribution? Are they objectively good distributions or have they just become memes?

Both KDE and Gnome are popular DEs but they honestly look and feel like bloated pieces of shit. I'm looking for something that's ACTUALLY good software.

>>55885481
This seems to be the most popular WM. Is it actually the best or do most people just use it because they saw some /r/unixporn posts with it? Is there a lack of objective comparisons between comparable software or am I just not looking hard enough?

can I seriously not install wine through the metapackage with apt-get?

if so what's the fucking point

>>55885488
yeah i know we are supposed to bash each others heads in on our programs of choice, that would be friendly.

>>55883926
now that I see that fucking lamp inside the thing kek

>>55884111
yes

>>55885488
>This "live and let live" attitude that the Linux community has doesn't really help newcomers who are trying to make their first decisions.
I know, I've been there myself. But that's just how it is. Get used to it.

>>55885598
Debate is healthy. Good software should be used and supported.

Arch has huge momentum now despite it being an awful distribution. We should berate people who choose to use inferior software.

>>55883823
Arch
Hardened Gentoo
Arch

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People in /bst/ are all gamers, so they run Windows. I've been running Debian stable for a few months now. Overall it's pretty awesome and works well.

Debian Pros:
+ Stability, your primary PC won't explode/crash
+ Popularity (from being the base of Ubuntu, SteamOS, etc), meaning more software is available and support is easier to get
+ Great resources like the Debian Wiki
+ Prioritizes FOSS, while still having proprietary as an equally valid option

Debian Cons:
- Software isn't as new/up-to-date. However, you can use backports to get newer software, or just transition from Debian Stable to Testing or Unstable (which I hear isn't that unstable)
- Non-FOSS (like Chrome, Netflix, Java, drivers, etc.) requires a bit of extra work to install, but this is obviously the case when you choose the FOSS life.

I'm considering trying out Fedora and possibly OpenSUSE just to compare, but I really don't have a reason to stop using Debian. Sorry if I sound like a shill or whatever.

>>55875312
How do i run .bat in linux

This -> >>55885669 was a reply to this -> >>55876219

>>55885680
Try more wine

The one question i always come back to is this

if it is free to download and install all major linux distros, why are you lazy fucks asking what they are like instead of actually trying them out?

the linux community is a bunch of assholes because they tell you to stop asking questions and use something that is free to everyone.

Like a dick that says they are so thirsty they are dying and then they refuse the water you hand them because it came from a tap.

>>55885680
you either:
>don't
>try rewrite it as a bash script, while expecting it to work differently from the intended way.

>>55885703
Trying everything and all their features takes a lot of time.

Most DEs and WMs look like shit out of the box. I don't want to spend time customizing every Desktop Environment just to see which one I like the most.

>>55885649
>>Debate is healthy. Good software should be used and supported.
to a certain extent, in the FOSS world competition works way different because if the others do something you can decide to implement it.
the wikis and communities made a lot of lists of good software with short descriptions, this should be more than enough for a decision.
also it takes a few minutes to test out more free stuff. calling software shit that is developed by a community for the general benefit of everyone is not exactly friendly or productive.
>>55885680
read it and port the functionality to a shell script.

>>55885680
.bat is the file extension for a batch script, which is intended to be ran on Windows. So do what >>55885731 suggests

>>55885743
so you want people to decide for you what is best?

When i said people are lazy i didn't actually expect someone to actually admit how lazy they were.

>>55885703
>why are you lazy fucks asking what they are like instead of actually trying them out?
Cause we are lazy

>>55876219
On my desktop I used Debian testing but moved to Ubuntu when 16.04 came out. Its a GTX760/i5 4670 machine. I dual boot since last month (used just Linux for 2 years now) but just for diablo 3

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>>55885731
I have zero programming skill its a script i used to use to access deezloader
>>55885767
i have no idea how to friend

>>55885569
You could try notion, but i3 works perfectly and is simple to configure.

>>55885799
Can you share the script on pastebin? Maybe someone here could translate it if it isn't too complicated

>>55885569
>I'm looking for something that's ACTUALLY good software.
install dwm

>>55885855
this man speaks great wisdom

>>55885161
holy kek

>>55885799
Why don't you just use some native node.js instead?

>>55885774
I don't want people to decide for me. I want someone saying "this software is actually shit because this this and this. This software is good because this this and this."

Instead, it's just "Here's a list of software that may or may not do what you're looking for."

>>55885703
same reason these idiots don't search their query and get the answer themselves.

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>>55876397
>Mint (cinnamon) is the only Linux distro worth using on a daily basis.

>>55886005
No idea i could how do i do it

>>55875468
You're going to get banned.

>>55885855
>>55885939
I just googled it and found this upboated post on the arch subreddit.

>If you want to recompile anytime you change the theme, and be forced to use an unofficial fork just to get some unicode symbols to work in your statusbar (for instance, japanese kanji), and have the hardest-to-edit config of the three, I'd recommend dwm.

Is this accurate? I know Japanese and am studying Mandarin.

>>55886106
>hard to edit
>compiling is hard meme
it's simple, i can't into programming at all and i can still use and configure dwm and patch it (which i don't do because i don't need to)
the config is really well commented. but if you need approval for everything you are gonna try you will probably never try anything.

Anyone have any idea why my computer won't boot anymore? I have a Manjaro x64 installed, and it just suddenly stopped booting. It'll get to the Manjaro logo and then stop booting altogether. No memory dumps, or anything. I took the drive out and connected it to another laptop I had and it boots fine on that. Is it something on the other laptop?

>>55885161

>Alsa or Pulse audio?


It's not ALSA or Pulseaudio. You always have ALSA (unless you go for OSS). Pulseaudio sits on top of ALSA and gives you some extra features.

>>55886037
Best time to learn it

>>55875468
Go into the tracker portion of the libtorrent source code, find where its reporting upload size and add * 1.5 or whatever to the code to multiply it 1.5x

Super super super easy to do and not detectable.

>>55885508

>adding an untrusted repository just install some shitty tool to download more insecure stuff with the possibility to break things

How about you stop recommending idiotic things, idiot?

>>55886106
Oh i'm sorry, here we speak american you commie

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>>55886249

What are GTK and Qt? Do I need to choose only one? I don't really understand.

I just started installing Debian to try Linux out. What should I expect and what should I know? Never used Linux before. I'll mostly be programming in python

>>55886567

They're GUI libraries used by software to create their interface.
You can't choose. If the software you want to install is written with GTK, you'll have to use GTK and vice versa. Having both libraries installed at the same time doesn't hurt.

>>55886333
He isn't wrong. Why the fuck do you even have to add a whole fucking repo just for an AUR helper?

>>55886567
They're theme toolkits, meaning there are GTK themes and QT themes. Most DE use GTK, except KDE which uses QT.

>>55886333

If you don't know how the AUR works and can't install 1 package manually with makepkg, then you shouldn't be using Yaourt or those shitty AUR helpers anyway. Or the AUR at all. Actually, you shouldn't be using the AUR at all.

>>55886602

What did you expect when you installed Windows? WHat did have to know about Windows when you started using it?

>>55886628
KISS

I recommend reading The Arch Way on the Arch wiki. If you don't like it then Arch may not be for you :)

>>55886632

>theme toolkits
No, that's now what you call them. They're GUI toolkits or widghet toolkits.

>>55886650
The Arch way doesn't recommend adding repos to install an AUR package

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>>55886645
smhtbhfam

>>55886650
Keep it simple, Stupid does not mean keep it simple for stupid users

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>>55886683
>>55886714

>>55886628
Why do you even bother replying if you don't even know how the AUR works? Seriously, enlighten me.

>>55886747
Go ahead, tell me how AUR works. I'm ready for a kek

>>55886678
>No, that's now what you call them
Are you fucking wit me m8?

>>55886645
Windows seems easier to me, I'm not sure about typing stuff into a command line, or how to install programs from a repository. That's the stuff I know I don't know, and I'm hoping to find out the stuff I don't know that I don't know.

>>55886762
so you don't know...figured.

>>55886798
this is a good start for navigating the various terminology you will likely see in how-tos all over the place. it's not specific to arch, except in the parts talking about package installation: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Help:Reading
if you're using a debian variety you'll likely be using apt, not pacman, and the syntax for that is in plenty of guides. nothing about AUR applies to you.

>>55875615
Currently using Cinnamon for the comfy factor. I've tried GNOME, KDE, LXDE, and MATE, and Cinnamon is my favorite, though KDE is pretty slick as well. I might try it again when I get a new laptop.

>>55886832
Hey, I'm not the one who brought up "you don't know AUR works" for not adding a fucking repo. Take your insecurities somewhere else otherwise I'd like to see your viewpoint on "how AUR works" hahaha

>>55885481
i3 is babbies first tiling wm, literally every other wm is better than i3, examples: dwm, bspwm, or even awesome has more and better functionality

>>55886870
What are the differences? They all look the same.

>>55886870
as someone who is very happy with i3, i'm interested in any examples you might have of features that you use frequently in dwm or awesome, friend.

How hard is it to get into tiling wms? I've been just using Desktop Environments my whole life, is it at all worth it to bother? I don't need the extra speed, my hardware is pretty good.

>>55886925
Just install a wm and select if from your display manager.

>>55886925
i3 changed my life

Actually my original post was replying to someone asking how to access AUR through the terminal. He did not ask how to download something from the AUR, then use a terminal to extract it. Then you come along shitposting about me not knowing how to use the AUR properly. You're so busy shitposting that you lost track of the original question. No matter, I'm not going to spoonfeed some autist who get's everything he knows about gnu/linux through bait replies and shitpost. If you want actual info, learn how to ask for it fuckface.

>>55886964
replying to >>55886863

>>55886964
Please keep it friendly.

>>55886978
>>>/reddit/

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>>55886978

>>55886964
I am being friendly. I didn't even call him a faggot or tell him to commit suicide

>>55886991
Here is a friendly reminder that you're in /fglt/.

The f stands for friendly. Thanks!

>>55887014
No, but you called him a f*ckface. That is unfriendly.

>>55887052
but he was being one...?

>>55887052
Playing passive aggressive moderator makes you an infinitely huger tool than anyone calling someone a fuckface.

>>55887065
>...?

If you're going to be unfriendly there are other forums you can visit.

I was running xubuntu and my hdmi disconnected and now it wont detect my monitor so as soon a i get past login screen it goes black guest works fine though any way i can fix this

>>55887078
And using Google translate to say something weird in your fictional cartoon girlfriend's native language doesn't make you a tool?

死ねよ奇形児

>>55886764

Calling it "theme toolkit" is beyond retardation.

>>55887132
Its no different than wearing a baseball cap with the logo of something you like, you just read too much into it and project.

>>55887160
>project

Go back to /a/ where you belong. You're so obsessed with your waifu yet you're too lazy to learn her language. You faggots are the fucking worst.

>>55887179
/a/ is full of weeaboos arguing about shitty anime. /g/ used to be a place for people of refined anime taste, but now its just a bunch of pedo furfag brony trash. I understand your sentiments but you are projecting and insecure.

lets cleanse this shit thread with a new one now.

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>>55887148
but that's what they're called anon

>>55886964
>. No matter, I'm not going to spoonfeed some autist who get's everything he knows about gnu/linux through bait replies and shitpost.
Aww, so cute, you don't have the balls to explain how _you_ think AUR works. Now let's see

>Someone asks how to get an AUR helper working
>"Add a repo XDD"
>Why add repo when you can compile the helper itself
>"lol KISS"
>KISS doesn't tell anything about AUR and adding 3rd party repos
>"lol u don't know how AUR works"
>Go ahead and tell me
>"lol u don't know"
>Tell me
>"lol u don't know how GNU/Linux works"

To think that I have been replying to an underage faggot who just learned how to install Arch and thinks AUR will teach him how GNU/Linux works is quite revolting. Now if you yourself do not know "How AUR works" then get the fuck out, so far you have given 0 (Zero) facts to justify to add a repo to install an AUR package and gone on about bullshit buzzwords like KISS or AUR which you know NOTHING about. Fuck off and don't come back

How do I make gVim menus appear like in Janus? I've been using Janus for a couple weeks and decided to set up my own .vimrc etc, but I can't find for my life where to activate the plugin menus like in Janus. They were so useful, specially since they told you the command to do the actions. Help please.

>>55887204
What am I insecure about? I know Japanese and I'm not a delusional retard that has an imaginary girlfriend. If you want to be respected then take the trip off or fuck off.

What's the best Linux ever?

>>55887238
Void Linux is literally the best Linux distribution at the moment.

>>55887217

Find me a reputable and trusted source which calls them that. Go to the websites and documentation for GTK or Qt. You'll see what it says.

>>55887242
I'd just like to interject for a moment.

>>55887238
Linux Libre

If you are talking about a distro, Ubuntu server

>>55887242
Void is a hipster trash

>>55887238

4.7

>>55887219
You got some of those replies mixed up madbro. Only like 2 of those are my reply. I wasn't the only one who thought you were wrong and you obviously think it's one person. Not going to argue with you as you've completely lost track the topic. Step up your game m8.

>>55887264
Try it fucker.

>>55887267
>hipster trash

It's
>good Arch
>source and binary
>no systemd
>barebones and fast as fuck

>>55887267
>Ubuntu and Linux-libre in one post
wat

>>55887297
>It's
Like literally every other distro.

Should I XFCE with Arc or Numix or i3?

>>55887297
>good Arch
>with no ports/ABS

>>55887257
wow you're really serious about his. alright little fella i'll call them whatever you like. jeez.

>>55875615
I'm liking xmonad/xmobar with some XFCE features like sound and power management.

>dat x

>>55887317
bspwm with lemonbar

>>55878104
That is MPD actually, and the wiki does explain it

>>55887232
You are just a triggered insecure tool lol. You know exactly what I mean.

>>55887317
Why follow the masses, install what you like faggot.

>>55876219
Yes.

>>55887358
I don't have the time to experiment with dozens of combinations. I want to choose something that's fast and pretty.

Premium thread: >>55887370

>>55887336
bspwm by itself or with XFCE?

Why bspwm?

>>55887317
>>55887374
xfce then

Rebooted into windows and now I can't get back into grub. Just goes straight into Windows boot. Fuck

>>55887411
hold down shift

>>55885117
https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/

Currently in-order to start my DE I have to login to the console then enter
cd /usr/dt/bin
./dtlogin
every time. I tried making it automatic by adding
startx /usr/dt/bin/dtlogin
to the xinitrc but that didn't work. What do?

>>55885481
Why is it better than xmonad?

>>55887535
Memory consumption says nothing about speed or stability

>>55887623
It's not auto layout. xmonad has a shitty autolayout.

>>55887621
have you tried

startx ./usr/dt/bin/dtlogin

?

>>55887671
That wouldn't even make sense

>>55887671
I tried it just now with no success.

>>55887222
help flgt i spend hours on this

Hey /g/ I just finished installing arch and was trying to do some stuff that involved accessing the /ect/ directory. When I try to cd or access a file in it through nano it says that the directory does not exist. How do I get to it?

>>55888147
nvm

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