/spg/ - Smartphone General

Please ignore the LG shills above, the G4 is a miserably horrible device.

>LG Bloat
>still lags but less
>heavy games run like crap (PokemonGO)
>gets hot
>battery life is a bit better but still suck(4h SoT)
>flash Cyanogenmod
>Camera becomes shitty

Just don't.

is this guy right?

Daily reminder that the only good android phones are the 6P, the S7, and the HTC10 and even the android flagships can't match the level of refinement that Apple offers. Once the 2018 iPhone comes out with OLED and a return to glorious glass design it'll be over once and for all.

>>55840339
what about the g5?

>HTC 10 is $600 plus $50 tax

I want it but so I want it that bad

>>55840153
I'm looking for a phone with these features. I'm in the US.

>No contract or no Verizon.
>Android
>2g of ram or higher
>4.3. Android or higher (If you can run it, post pictures)
>Good MP3 support
>Headphone jack support
>GPS support
>Not RL ready for importing phones

I have found two moto G phones and a samsung s7 that could work. Do you guys have any suggestions for android phones for a podcast addict?

>>55840413
Pretty much any flagship or mid end phone meets these criteria.

I'm looking for unlocked phone for around $350. I'm in the US

>>55840413
Your criteria apply to almost anything, at this point you can roll a dice. If dubs, you buy a used Galaxy S1.

>>55840413
If you're looking for a budget phone the Nexus 5x fits all of that IIRC

>>55840454
>>55840431
Alright. I did answer my own question.

I want to help my mom with finding a less lemon phone. She's not lucky with her phone purchases. Bumping her iPhone into an open container of soda was her latest mishap.

Despite that, thank you for the feedback and the confidence.

>>55840398
>sdcardandshittyopinions.png

>>55840590
Or you could not be poor/retarded and buy sufficient storage for your needs.

>but an SD card is way cheaper

You're comparing flash storage to an SD card, not a relevant comparison.

>>55840577
s7 active

Got my s7 edge yesterday after my Nexus 5 finally died, loving the phone so far.

>>55840398

Have you heard about the headphone jack?

YOu fucking cuck.

GO back to drinking Jobs' piss.

>>55840413
Well you can get a xperia z1c for $200~ I can't remember if it is a 2013 or 2014 phone. I have one, still using it.

>>55840689
You mean the ability to now use external DAC's and not be locked in to whatever quality DAC they put in the phone as an afterthought? An adapter is included and when attached to headphones it'll be just the same as before.

>but I can't charge and listen at the same time

A pretty rare scenario and I'd give this up any day to have access to external DACs and another speaker.

Xiaomi Mi Max 2/16

vs

Redmi Note 3 Pro 3/32

SERIOUS RESPONSES ONLY

>>55840723
What are you smoking? Listening to and charging your phone happen simultaneously pretty often and you can get an external dac and adapter for literally any phone as is.

>>55840762
>having access to an external DAC and another speaker.

And don't even bring up front facing speakers. Nobody has yet to make an implementation that isn't ugly.

>>55840749

The big difference I can forsee is in the ROM

is the Mi Max rom cucked? Seems completely iClone.

Currently no phone right now, using iPhone 6s as daily from work.

Nexus 6p is going for $347 on jet.com right now. Is this a sweet deal for a no phone guy?

I was underwhelmed with the Nexus 5x, had planned to get the Moto X Pure but lol Lenovo.

Had Nexus 5 before the digitizer died. Help me my dearest /g/

>>55840614
>needs change
>(on android) better get a new SD card
>(on iOS) better get a new phone

Good one!

>>55840933
The most I would pay for a 6P right now is $400
so yes, a 6P at 350 is a great deal 2bh

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ayy it arrived at last

>>55840940
>sell android "flagship" 2 years later
>worth $200
>sell latest iPhone
>worth $400-500

Same goes for my MacBook. Every 3 years I can sell it and buy a brand new one for $200-$300.

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I don't think something fits this bill, but let's try

- Budget: Unlimited
- microSD
- Unlocked bootloader/ROM support
- Removable battery

Hard mode: works on Verizon
Impossible mode: under $300

Is there anything, /g/?

>>55840749
RN3P

>>55840998
Nice, how long did it take?

>>55841006
That's the thing with iphones/macs, really fucking expensive to get into, but really healthy aftermarket for constant upgrades.

>>55841015
Probably LG V10.

>>55840995
just curious can you tell me why you feel this way?

I'm genuinely asking because I'm really on the fence about picking it up.

>>55841070
Because the next generation of Nexus devices are about to launch in ~2 months, therefore the 6P/5X should be going on sale to a permanent ~350-399 (for the 6p).
It's a really solid device, and you'll get android N and O at the very least. On top of a pretty solid camera, great design, stock android... I mean it's the definitive android device right now. If it had a microsd slot it would be perfection imo.

Is the Galaxy s5 worth it?

I am looking into buy an Att Note 4 with a ZeroLemon 10000mha rugged battery case for $225 altogether (Merican)

Am I getting a good deal? The guy is a nerdy PC gamer type who has taken immaculate care of his phone, so there's no chips, cracks or scratches. He's selling it for money to go to a con.

Is there anything I can do to/with a Note to make it run better? Any have to have accessories or apps I need to get?

>>55841120
how much

>>55841127
you'll probably want it rooted
look around to get a glimpse of the procedure for the device

>>55841104
awesome thanks so much for this anon. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

>>55841058
>LG V10.

Huh, how about that. Only the Tmo is bootloader unlocked but it does check all the boxes. Thanks, Anon.

>>55841199
Probably look into the other LG devices then like the G5. I don't know if they hit every single checkbox, but they're really the only high end devices offering remo battery + sd

>>55841155
Its 240$ new.

>>55841216

I feel like LG is kind of a nest of problems. /g/ hasn't had a lot of good stuff to say about their phones. Bootloop issue on the G4 comes to mind.

>>55841006
Fair point.

>>55841305
yes

>>55841308
You can look into the S5 then.

Why isn't this http://www.productchart.com/
in the OP?

Pretty useful 2bh
Including the ability to search for smartphones with removable battery http://www.productchart.com/smartphones/sets/3
and a similar smartphone search
http://www.productchart.com/smartphones/similar

I'm deciding between the LG G5 and the Galaxy S7, thoughts?

>>55841376

I was going to complain at you for shilling but that's actually a great site. Thank you.

>>55841437
S7

>>55841437
OP3 beats both of them easy unless you care really a lot about the wide shooter on the G5.

So I'm fucked with buying LG, can rooting help me move apps to sd card? Apparently Marshmallow's "sd card to internal storage" doesn't exist in LG.

>>55842030
do you absolutely have to do it? I'm no expert but my experience is that android hates apps on sd and it creates all sorts of issues on the long run.

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HTC One a9
LG G4
Nexus 6P
Samsung S6
or 1 day access to the Goat Tower

>>55842056
My internal storage is just 8 fucking GB. I probably just install it for game apps or not-important apps there while the important apps will be in true internal storage.

>>55841104
>>55840995
>>55840933

Bought the 6P in gold for $346. Most I've spent on a phone, hopefully it's damn good

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Thoughts on One Plus 3?

>Typical social apps: Snapchat/Facebook/IG

>Whatsapp/Texts

>WiFi Spotify / YouTube

>No Gaming except for Pokemon GO

>Decent phone speakers

Not sure if I'm overspending but want to use the phone for at least 2 years

>>55840153
Is there ANY reason to believe that the Axon 7 is the best phone?

Waiting on the nexus, but axon 7 appears to be god-tier.

>>55843039
No real reason, just a lot of anonymous opinions

>>55843039
Camera isn't quite Samsung S7 good (night/low light sucks), Chink and locked bootloader so support down the line might be iffy. Battery could be bigger. Supposedly the speakers aren't as good as others, but who the fuck uses their phones speakers to play music?

None of those are deal breakers, unlike the fucking 1+3's lack of a SD card, or the S7/top tier phone pricetags.

>>55842740
>Decent phone speakers.
Nope

>>55843039
>>55843077


I meant to say ISN'T the best phone?

>>55843108
Don't care for camera, I have a dslr. Only thing that slightly concerns me is the chinese development - better said, the support won't be there. But I agree, they really aren't deal breakers.

>>55842740
Woops I meant,
> these are factors I want out of a phone. Simple but I want them to work near flawlessly.

>>55843165
You're telling me they're not even decent? Compare it to... A nexus 5 where they are quiet as fuck with zero bass. Because I need an improvement from that.

>>55840339
I still have a G3 and Pokemon Go runs fine other than the fact that the game is shit

So if I mostly care about battery life and camera, which phone should I get? I'm willing to pay about 400€.

Just ordered the 5X. I can't hold off on getting a new phone anymore. As good as the 4 is I just can't stand the poor battery and not having LTE.

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I have the choice to choose between getting an LG G4 and a Oneplus One from a friend (either one for free). Which one should I get? I value root/ROM support > battery life > performance > camera > music quality, in that order.

>>55842515
Enjoy it m8

>>55843837
G4 easy

>>55841937
But no SD card slot.

If this helps anyone else out:

Mini review of 5x

Pros:
>still the cheapest bang for your buck outright phone in Canada
>camera and bloat free Android is great
>constant Google updates fix """"any problems"""" monthly
>good phone size for one handed use
>videos and text look great
>charging is good / 1-2 hours full 100% if you DON'T use the phone while charging
>upon fresh reboot, phone is the fastest device I've ever held
If rooted:
>easy to root / Pure Nexus ROM + Ex Kernel made my device faster and last longer battery wise
>no reboots necessary, always runs great

Cons:
>overpriced in Canada. Find a friend in the US to buy it for you. I made the mistake to buy it full price at $499, 32GB
>battery does 4hrs SOT tops
>gets hot as fuck. Slows down if it gets passed 45 degrees C.
>plastic build makes it feel cheap as fuck. Again, get this for the ~$250 US price tag to justify
If rooted:
>battery is still 4hrs SOT
>phone stays WAY cooler, no heat issues

tl;dr I love it, esp coming from the 5 and didn't want to cash out $700. If in Canada, do NOT buy full retail price from the Google Canada Store. Go for a Newegg or some type of reputable retailer that will sell it to you for the US prices


>>55843704

I may go for the One Plus 3, just because of the pricing of the 5x compared to the amount of features you get for the $$$

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>>55840398
>>55841006
>>55841058
iPhones are a huge fucking meme. I'm getting rid of mine and getting an S7 Active + 256GB microsd card next week. I'm done with apple, fuck their overpriced pieces of shit.

>>55843972

I got the 5X for $270. Unless I could get the OP3 at a similar price I think I will stick with the 5X.

>>55843837
Get the OPO.

>Incredible ROM support, CAN INSTALL GENTOO ON IT
>Great battery life
>Performs well (not as good as G4 though)
>Camera is decent (again, not as good as G4)
>Great audio quality

I feel like there'd be no contest for the op3 if it just had a goddamn microsd. It's what's killing my g2, I'm constantly running out of storage.

>>55844070
Agreed, sad to see such a great phone be completely ruined by not including that. We'll probably see $50 200GB microsd cards soon.

>>55843186
it'd be about the same.

>>55844070
you would literally be right. there stupid fucking loss

hurr EVERYONE NEEDS DUAL SIM! fucking retards honestly. every single time they make a new phone they fucking compromise on the wrong thing. i'd rather them compromise on price and just put out a phone that doesn't suck complete ballsack.

>>55844070
Yeah, I could put up with its flaws if it had a SD card slot. Why would a "DEVELOPER" phone not have the capability to store excess files and media?
Same with Nexus, they're phones for "hardcore" android users and developers.

>>55844156
I know, hard to believe dual sim is apparently more necessary than fucking storage
Most of us aren't pooinloo's who must travel to Amerika for software contracts

Which BLU phones are recommended? I want to buy my mom one.

Recently got the HTC A9. Is there a better option?

>>55844106
>>55844156
>>55844161
What are our other options bros? At this point I feel like I'm forced to get an s7 which is way over my budget.

>>55844227
Out of these phones, I should have said:

Advance 5.0
Advance 5.0 HD
Energy X 2
Studio X 8
Studio Selfie 2

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>>55844260
>Never settle, they said
For mid-tier phones you either need to go with the OP3 or bet on the chinks with the Axon7 at this point, there's hardly any other options, maybe the Idol 4

When you guys get a new phone, do you set it up to look like your old one, or do you just make a new set up?

>>55844329

I've been using the same look and feel for my mobile desktop for a long time now, ever since my Gnex

>>55842740
Take a look at the idol 4s

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>>55844432
>idol 4s
>3gb ram
Why does every phone have a flaw

>>>55844260 (You)
>bet on the chinks
So I'm fucked basically.

What's /spg/''s rec music player for Android?

Would LG G4 to a OP3 be a decent upgrade, besides the SD slot?

>>55844583
no

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My iPhone 5 broke recently and I'm looking for a cheap replacement until I can save so,e cash for a decent phone. I'm thinking about buying a htc thunderbolt for $30. I have Verizon so as far as I can tell my options are limited. How's the phone run these days?

>>55844629

Like shit? Same as always, that device was god awful. Do yourself a favor and get a Moto E or something like that if you really need a $30 phone. Or go suck a couple dicks to get $125 for a Moto G4 with ads on Amazon

>>55840404
Just got the G5 today. A lotta bloat? Holy fuck yes. Amazing phone? Absolutely

>>55844502
What kind of shit could you need more than 3gb of ram for. As long as it performances well you shouldn't concern yourself with specs.

>>55844010
why is everything in that list a lie except the first two things?

>>55844568
Black player.

Goddam Negros and their loud music.

Never really see the moto z discussed here at all, does anyone have one?

>>55844817
None of us bought one.

>>55844568
I like doubletwist, manages all my podcasts nicely too.

>>55844827
Why not family of mine?

>>55844629
Get Lumia 540 instead. It just werks and run smooth as fuck while it's cheap.

>>55844858
Well for me it was just a lot of money for not a huge upgrade. If I didn't have any handsets right now I'd likely pick one up.

>>55844627
Well, I don't really trust my G4 to keep on more than a year, plus locked bootloader

>>55844882
It'd be a huge upgrade for me, currently on a g2.

Opinions on the oneplus3?

Almost stock android
6gb ram
Unlocked bootoader
Easy to flash
Cheap enough

Yeah it has a ram issue but this is fixable in the terminal. Any other issues?

>>55844912

I mean, I'd get it, but /g/ is going to tell you not to because Lenovo is a shit, etc. It's still a great phone, though.

>>55844926
price. I'm never going to spend €400 on a phone, but that depends on the person.
some anons complain about the shitty screen.
no cyanogenmod support, only unofficial turboprajeet roms.

>>55844926
No SD card slot, deal breaker for most of us.

looking for a phone
budget is €200 - 250
i have an s3 right now and it's perfect, so i just want a faster s3 with a snapdragon, since cyanogenmod seems to run well on those, according to people.

so i need an amoled screen, bigger than 5", physical buttons (like the s3), and at least one good custom rom. cm13 would be nice but i would be asking too much apparently.

so the only phones that have all this are the galaxy s4, s5 and the oneplus 3. not the oneplus x because i want to press, not touch, the home button.

i mean the oneplus 3 would be more future-proof, but the s5 is cheaper and has official cyanogenmod support

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TO MY RECENT MOTO X PURE ADOPTERS:

PROTIP: TruPure rom + Xposed + Gravitybox = The comfiest device ever.

Pic related.

>>55842080
Goat Tower, hands down.

iphone 5s user here. Torn between getting a 6 or 6s when the 7 comes.

I jailbreak so I customize it as much as I want and still get the wifi text (imessage) I need.

Do any androids offer wifi sms texting? I get shit reception in the house and i'm american so we don't use whatsapp or line or anything here.

comparison between Axon 7 and OP3

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPltnI5sX-Q

Axon 7 a shit

>>55845435
Both phones have a big flaw each (SD vs locked bootloader and future OS updates) alongside a heap of upsides; it's pick your poison really or spend nearly that again for an S7.

>>55845576
S7 is even more locked, how the fuck is it an option even.

>>55845607
Because it has 0 other flaws sans price, whereas even the top chink phones have pretty big gimps

>>55845638
With locked BL you'll never be able to utilize the "flawless" hardware to its fullest.

>>55845576

64GB is enough for me.

Also S7 does have a big flaw, which is software.

Locked BL, root only with Knox 0x1 possible and so on.

The only good thing about Android is the absolute customization, and if you take that away, you have nothing left.

>>55845659
>some "custom" rom made by Rajeesh Patel can take advantage of the hardware better than Samsung's own rom
Top kek.
Let's face it, the (very legitimate) criticism about Touchwiz has always been that the UI is ugly as fuck, but in terms of performance it's just fine and better than pretty much every other OEM.
Also now with the themes and Good Lock you can replace Touchjizz with a stock Android UI.

Anyone else pirate apps?

Does anyone know when Xiaomemes will get nougat or at least the beta?

>>55845751
i remove google play services since my crappy s3 doesn't have enough ram.
i use mobilism for pirated stuff and apkpure for normal playstore apps (it uses the official apks on the play store, so it's safer)

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I have to choose:

>LG Nexus 5x
>Motorola Moto X Play
>something else
>be a financially unresponsible retard and buy a Samsung Galaxy S6 or Sony Xperia Z5

What do?

>>55845707
People complain about TouchWiz not because it's ugly, but because it fucking lags no matter what hardware you use. Stock ROM does hamper performance as well, ram management being the prime example. Custom kernels provide very real performance improvements reflected by benchmarks. All of this applies is the OEM is not a huge faggot and releases the sources.

I don't get this mSD slot obsession.

What on earth would you wantto store on a phone that's over 64 gigs?
I stream all my music from Spotify, most of my library and podcasts fit on even downloaded with a bajillion apps and like 10 gigs worth of movies and Photos that are uploaded every night and I still have room to spare.

What do you guys use a 256gig mSD slot for that's actually pretty slow?

>>55845869
>Stock ROM does hamper performance as well, ram management being the prime example.
We're not talking about the S6 here buddy.
Going from an N6P to a S7 it feels significantly smoother.

Axon 7 in murrica ~ 400USD
Axon 7 in yurope ~ 450 Euros

What the fuck chinks? We get cucked on smarthphone prices so much and Axon gets blown the fuck out of the water on pricing with the One Plus 3 actually being 380 euros with free shipping warranty and everything...

>>55845878
i have a 16gb phone with no sd, and half of the storage is filled with old roms i flashed, but it's nice to have an sd, because how are you supposed to transfer files? The cable does 1MB/s when you're lucky and i don't want to turn on an ftp server just to move some photos to my phone

>>55844010
Oh, the irony.

>falling for the mSD slot meme
>samshit, worse than appleshit
>samshit, overpriced the same as appleshit

dang boy

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Just got a OPPO R9 m8s, it's sick and was just $600. Now I'm looking for a decent case for it, any ideas?

>tfw otterbox don't make cases for OPPO's ;_;

>>55845829
Do you need a rooted device to do all that stuff?

>>55845904
Yeah, I agree, I used to have a 16GB phone, SD is a must then, but when you have 64 gigs?

>>55845892
Considering 6p is worse than 6, and I don't think you tried customs for it. People were still complaining about s7 smoothness.

>>55845914
>samshit, overpriced the same as appleshit
>current Samsung flagship costs half as much as Apple's flagship

Any news on the new Nexus 2016 phones?

The rumors are that even the 5,2'' version will cost over 400$.

And I am sure Google manages to fuck it up somehow anyways, like small battery, shitty screen, shitty camera.


>>55845903
Makes the decision only easier, dude.

OP3 is unbeaten for its price.

>>55845915
bump

>>55845927
>I don't think you tried customs for it.
Now you're just assuming like a retard. I did in fact run custom roms on it, and EX Kernel. Which resulted in the exact same general performance and a 20% cut in battery life.
There's a reason custom roms are used less and less. They're simply not worth the hassle.

>>55845933
>Google manages to fuck it up
Google doesn't manufacture, nor designs Nexus phones.

>>55845945
Which ones? CM and CM-based are notoriously slow and bloated.

>>55845970
AOSPA

>>55845924
yeah if you have 64GB an sd card is useless. it's nice to have, but you can live without it. i think physical vs onscreen button is more important than a fucking sd card

>>55845973
It's not even a month old. Somehting fishy, m8.

>>55845987
>shilling that hard for amateur placebo roms
Look, I agree that they might have extra features that can be cool, but when it comes to performance, I'm pretty sure actual devs with funding do a better job than some random Pajeet in his designated shitting hut.

>>55846005
You literally proved otherwise yourself >>55845945

>>55846013
Fug, I misread.

>>55846013
>similar smoothness only achieve by bumping up processor performance and therefore power draw
The pinnacle of poo engineering

>>55846028
>same smoothness
For my phone I can lower the frequency and still have better smoothness. Especially in the long run, stock ROMs pretty much require daily reboots, Samsung even added that option.

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Apparently my HTC one m7 is now oneplus one

>>55845929
Not in Yurok

>>55846209
Frenchman here, bought an S7 yesterday for 540 euros.
iPhone 6S 128GB is 850 euros.
Half price was an exaggeration but it's still 70%

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I found a "VOOC" car charger on ebay for $41, and they're $50 in store.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oppo-VOOC-Car-Charger-White-Au-Stock-/371673439338?hash=item5689769c6a:g:2J4AAOSwRQlXfiVu#shpCntId

Does this look legit? I've bought things off ebay before which have turned out to be knockoffs..

Can anyone give pros and cons of Windows phones? Heres what i think.

Pros
-Look great (650 and 950)
-Great camera
-Simple and nice os

Cons

-Lack of apps
-Microsoft doesnt Care about updates
-Buggy?

Thinking of replacing my Sony z3c for a Microsoft lumia 650

>>55843837
OPO.

The only thing G4 is better at, is the camera. It's really great. If the camera is your top priority, buy it, but the rest will be mediocre at best.

I've mentioned few times here how faulty G4 is and how bad decision of mine it was to buy it. I fell for muh removable battery meme and now I regret it. I haven't swapped battery in this phone even once, even though I bought additional one at the start, and I was on several all-day trips.

SD 808 on 2K resolution works bad. The phone overheats easily and it's actual performance isn't really better than SD 801 (the one in OPO) on 1080p. So in terms of performance, the only thing that G4 is better on paper, G4 is not better.

As >>55844066 said, OPO gives you a lot more. If you don't need the best camera for this price, avoid G4, because it's poorly built device with lots of minor software bugs.

>>55840339
G4 owner here
Everything you said is bullshit
Doesn't lag
Pokéshit go runs fine
It does get warm but unless it's really hot outside it doesn't create much discomfort
Battery life is indeed shit
Camera is amazing with the stock ROM

>>55844926
I bought it a few days ago. It's ridiculously fast and powerful compared to anything else I used in the past. You can multitask like a boss and it keeps like 10 apps in memory no problem, including huge shitty optimized games like Asphalt (for a while, not forever, but I guess this has to do with how the apps are coded). You can for example easily multitask with many tabs open in firefox and jump to WhatsApp to inform your mom that she has to buy you dinner by holding a key (the nav key are customizable), none of your tabs are going to reload. I think the 6Gb of ram are going to make it very future proof considering how heavy apps and webpages are getting, the lack of ram is why older devices with 1Gb which were perfectly usable back then are slow as fuck nowdays.

The raw power is the main reason why I got it.

The camera is also impressive (I can post samples), but the video recorder is bugged and mostly pretty bad. For some reason OIS doesn't work in 1080p recording but it works in 4K, sound is also shitty because the noise reduction is buggy. There are a few minor bugs in the OS as well, and some features feel incomplete (music player and camera interface come to mind). Other than that the OS is basically stock MM with some addition which are all pretty useful and handy. Being nearly stock, it uses the shitty google apps such as Music, Gallery, the dialer and phonebook which are complete garbage, Messenger, etc. Most of these are replaceable with third party (Poweramp) or I just deal with it (the shitty dialer, not that I have many people to call). My previous phone (sony Z3) had beautiful stock apps and I really miss them.

Battery life is good for moderate use (lasts about 5 hours with my kind of usage, my Z3, lasted 30-45 minutes more but I managed the battery using Sony's Stamina a lot, this one just has the android power saver which kills the user experience).

Overall I don't think there is anything better for 400€.

So genuinely curious, why do you guys hate on the s7 edge?

I recently got the HTC 10 primarily due to the more robust looking build quality and dedicated AMP/DAC built into the phone.

But considering the amount of features the s7 edge packs I would have easily considered it were it to have equivalent audio quality.

So far loving the HTC 10 for daily use, but then I look at all the features the s7 edge has and just wonder whether I would have been better off with it instead.

>>55846453
Which features interest you about the S7 Edge?

>>55846325

The main cons:

- they look nice but build quality is hit and miss. Even top of the line devices are made of creaky plastic, but that's not too bad, as creaky plastic usually absorbs hits better making Lumias more durable. (thicker plastic phones are usually more resistant to damage)

- the OS is a problem. It's literally never finished. You never get the best apps. It tends to be buggy, even if fixes are always out.

Lumias are excellent phones for people that just want to use them as phones with a camera and an internet browser. Anything else and they start to be annoying with their poorly developed apps.

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halp

someone with an s4 and root tell me what the folder stuff is for calendar storage; i am dumb and deleted the wrong thing. i have the apk saved, but not the folder path and children in it.

system/apps/

pls n thx u

>>55846470
Gimmicks.

>>55846546
Such as? The only real gimmick that I would love on my OP3 from the S7 is the one-handed mode because I'm a literal manlet.

>>55846470
>More water resistant
>AMOLED screen
>Wireless charging
>Having GearVR as an option
>Camera shots looking sharper despite the less natural color (not a deal breaker though, HTC10 camera looks fine)
>slightly Larger battery capacity, not sure how exynos model s7 edge and HTC10 compare power efficiency and performance wise.
>Some software features like split screen.

My biggest gripe based on reviews with s7 besides audio is the glass back and the tactile home button which is more prone to failure.

Slap it in a good protective case though and it should fare fine I reckon.

>>55846587
Water resistance is a gimmick and it doesn't last forever. I killed my Z1C because the water resistance failed and water came in through some hole somewhere in the frame that developed with age. It sounds cool but you most likely won't ever get it wet. I'm not even sure if Samsung covers water damage under warranty. I know Sony did in certain cases but doesn't anymore and doesn't recommend submerging the phone.
>>AMOLED screen
The screen on the S7 is actually pretty impressive.
>>Wireless charging
I think it's a useless gimmick, also you need a separate thingy to wireless charge and it's kinda slow.
>>Having GearVR as an option
Strapping your phone to your face is the epitome of gimmickry.
>>Camera shots looking sharper despite the less natural color (not a deal breaker though, HTC10 camera looks fine)
The difference between these flagships is negligible and barely noticeable even when looking at samples fully zoomed in side to side. You can't really go wrong with any of these including the Huawei or the OP3.
>>slightly Larger battery capacity, not sure how exynos model s7 edge and HTC10 compare power efficiency and performance wise.
For once Samsung has good battery life. The battery is non replaceable and the phone is impossible to open so you can't replace it in any way without destroying your phone in the process.
>>Some software features like split screen.
Split screen is coming to everyone with Nougat.

Overall pretty much all the top flagships are nearly perfect, so just buy the S7 if you really like it and can afford it.

>>55846381
G4 owner here
Lags
Pokeshit runs fine
It does get warm randomly, even inside while browsing the web, it doesn't create discomfort
Battery life is mediocre at best
Camera is amazing with the stock ROM

What's the current sweetspot phone for Ausfa/g/s?
After only the most bang for buck with 4g.

>>55846671
>Water resistance is a gimmick and it doesn't last forever.

Eh not really
you just have to understand how it works: water resistance on the S7 means that each port has a little rubber seal around the gaps, and the speakers have a mesh that helps stop water.

That's it. You can replicate the same "resistance" with a tight build. Iphones fail if you splash water on them because they're built like shit. Moto G's (first gen) are notoriously water resistant just through tight build alone.

For me, all a phone has to survive is the possibility of having a glass of water dropped on a table, and the water reaching it. That's the worst scenario you can get through bad luck. Most phones will easily survive that.

Anyone know what's the best phone camera out on the market currently

Opinions on 3rd gen Moto G?

Poor eurofag here and need something decent under 130-150EUR
Any recomendations/suggestions~?

>>55846721
Water resistance is accomplished by water resistant glue under the glass and goretex or something like that under the speaker grills which are also glued. If the glue fails at any point water will get in. On my z1 I think the camera glass somehow lost its glue and some water got in. That was literally the only time I submerged, but it always resisted washing under tap water. Honestly water proofness seems like it gives a false sense of protection. Just never get your phone too close to water or you will regret it.

>>55846765
Galaxy S7

>>55846811
It's old. 2gb of ram are barely enough, but the hardware is dated.
It's not complete shit but I wouldn't buy it now. You can't reach a Huawei P9 Lite?

>>55846671
Already bought the HTC10, I will stick with it since I will be mostly using my phone listening to music on relatively decent headphones.

The SLCD-5 display on HTC10 looks fairly sharp and vibrant as is when used indoors, haven't tried it outdoors yet. I don't know how much of a difference in quality I will perceive if I go for the s7's AMOLED.

Not sure how AMOLED fares for longevity these days either which is very important to me, I've heard so much about the dreaded burn in which is a non existent issue on LCD screens.

I don't buy phones on a regular basis, thought I'd splurge and try a flagship model for the first time after my last phone broke. Hope this one lasts

First time going for HTC as well, digging the blinkfeed with RSS and close to bare bones setup.

>>55840339
I'm the guy that posted this. It's not a horrible device, the camera is one of the best but the rest of the points still stand. Also don't forget the Bootloops. Go to the G4 subredit and see what people are saying.

>>55846888
Idkw people are even debating phones anymore.
Peasants buy any cheap android slop
Any non peasant under 60 gets s7
Anyone over 60 or too stupid to even know what a bootloader is gets iCucked.
The end

Why do we have so much debate on phones? Zzzz

>>55846926
I dunno if I can man... I'm very short on money since the phone I was using died without warning and I don't have the money right now for a decent phone
yet still, I need something, even if shitty, but something that works at least

>>55847199
>getting S7
>paying more for a slower phone than the cheaper competition
>shitsung
never

>>55847296
Idk, try to look for a Moto G4, at least you'll have recent hardware. The third gen one isn't bad anyways, just dated.

>>55847326
Then I'll go with 3rd gen
don't have much more money currently :/

Why are you guys getting the moto x when you can get the new moto g4

>>55847296
Moto G3 is for you then. It has very basic processor, but with 2 GB RAM and clean Android, it's enough to perform smoothly. It's well-built, waterproof and has very good camera for its price. I can't think of a better phone that wouldn't be more expensive.

>>55847498
There are two 2015 Moto X phones. The Play, which has similar specs to G4, and I'd pick G4 over it, because G4 is newer and will be supported by Motorola. Play won't.

And there's the X Style/Pure, which is much better at literally everything than Moto G4. If you meant that phone, I have no idea what the fuck are you talking about.

>>55847498
It's a bit of a hard choice
G4 is better on paper, but I don't like the build and I hear about overheating issues
the X Play has no overheating issues that I know of and it looks better built, but future support is a bit of a gamble.

Never owned a phone before, but looking to finally buy one. I would like one I could do some drawing on while I'm out. I know of the Samsung Note, but is there any other phone brand including a pen/stylus with pressure sensitivity?

>>55848035
Nope, Samsung Note series is as good as it gets for drawing on a phone.

>>55840153
OK, my phone just died and I'm in a pinch, please help me /spg/

For tmobile usa is the a better phone for the price than this blu phone?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H2E0KVA

Otherwise, I'll just buy this.

>>55840453
moto g 3 or 4

>>55846811
i bought it like a month ago it a good phone its got m and might get updated to n it tends to heat up if used for long periods of time but its not unbearbull

>>55842080
Goat tower
Otherwise G4

>>55846696
I don't know why yours lags

>>55845868

Be a retard. You are already thinking about it so might as well splurge. I did think about the Z5 and G5, but my hardware demand is not at flagship level so I went with the 5X.

>>55848658
5X is literally slower than the Moto G4 and has the shittiest battery.

>>55845368

Did you have any luck with downgrading to Lollipop or did you settle for a ROM?

why wont huawei update my chinkphone to marshmallow? they did it to the eu versions wtf

USA

LG Nexus 5X or Moto G4 Plus?

If I get the Nexus I'll be using it with Project Fi, not sure which carrier if I get the Moto G, whatever works well in north Jersey.

>>55848779
Moto G4 plus with at least 3gb's of ram. Check out some side by side comparisons, the 5x has a much better camera, but on the user experience side the G4 shits all over it, especialyl the g plus with extra ram.

whats the best music player?

>>55848667

SD 617 overheats and I don't know how well Moto will keep it up to date.

Someone needs to fucking find an exploit to root the Samsung 7.

Can't be that hard...

>>55848904
Shuttle+
has kinda crappy widget tho

or Poweramp

>>55848904
Poweramp is by far the best. If you disagree you'll be fine with any one of them.

>>55848904
foobar2000

>tfw can't wait for chinks to unlock the bootloader on Axon 7
I love this phone but I really need something to fix the notifications on the lockscreen

Does anyone know when the Xiaomi Mi5s will be released?

Should I get the Redmi Note 3 Pro now or wait for the Redmi Pro?

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>looking around for a new ROM for my phone for the first time in a long while
>XDA is even more inundated with Pajeets asking retarded questions

>>55844066
>>55846358
Thanks guys, will get the OPO

>People in here actually considering spending shekels on a 6P
https://youtu.be/tTIaUH6PIvo

>>55848904
black player ex

>>55841376
Because kimovil does all that with a myriad of other options+much more phones in the database.

>>55844568
>>55848904
Shuttle or rocket player.

>>55846811
>>55847364
>150EUR
RN3P. miles better than Moto G 3rd gen.

>>55848070
No, it's a good cheap alternative for basic use.

>>55848667
SD808 is 2x as fast as SD617, and they both overheat.

>>55849151
Read the OP, they won't.

Oneplus 3 or a similar priced phone? Have a preference for a decent camera and battery life.

>>55841017

cuz of the ROM?

I'm having a problem finding pdf viewer with 'rotate page' functionality.
Any tips?

>>55849669
Moon+ Reader

Will Nexus Sailfish be better than the 5x?

>>55842080
6P

how many more months until the 6p is $200?

>>55849712
Probably yes, I don't think they would release a pair of Nexus phones with really huge gap between them.

>>55850000
probably 6+
and that's if you're ok with used

>>55849712
most likely yes, htc is desperate and google is doing a pretty great job improving each generation

>>55842080
Goat tower or Oneplus3.

Is s7 really the best phone out in the market right now? Was considering buying it but the /g/ memes are getting into my head.

>>55850496
It is not the best if you care about future proofness and openness. If you care about that then the best one is the oneplus 3 for now.

Anyone else /soldtheirsoultothebotnet/

>Nexus 5x
>On Google's DP5 of Android N
>Use my Google Account for everything
>Photos sync up
>Signed up for Google Play Music
>Even have a family library for my other account and my actual family
>Buy movies on my account
>Do Opinion Rewards for them
>Own several Chromecasts
>And a Nexus Player
>Nexus 7 Tablet
>Chromebooks

Basically the only thing Google I DON'T use is Blogger, Google+, and I was thinking about getting a Google Voice number.

My anus is well used.

>>55850663
>yfw this was apple circa 2008

>>55850663
You won't get hurt by doing it. People here panic about the fact that Google knows everything about you, but it won't affect you. They use your data for advertising, nothing more.

My phone (moto g4) gives the option to use my 32gb micro SD cards either as internal or external storage.
Which one should I choose? I'll be using it mostly for music, not planning to take it out of the phone, just moving files from/to my PC via USB.

Should I get a nexus 5x while they're $200 or wait for the next gen version?

>>55849206
helio vs sd650
you decide

>>55849458
I read the OP. That's a crock of shit. Source is a customer service rep conversation posted on reddit, I way in he'll does that trump the words of a company dev. Also that review of the axon 7 doesn't say that the OP3 is better in almost every way. It says the OP3 has better camera and RAM as well as a slightly better battery.
Stop lying about the Axon 7 just to shill your OP3.

>>55851030
External. internal is to install apps on it if you rn out of space.

>>55849206
>>55851114

isn't there a chance that the ROM on the Redmi Pro will be full on iClone and cuck'd?

>>55851176
thanks

>>55851183
Very likely and you probably won't get a custom ROM either, since >Mediatek

Pulled the trigger on the HTC10 today. What am I in for?

>>55851319

A great experience at the expense of a lowered bank account.

>>55851313

That's what I thought - thanks anon

the rn3p meme lives on!

>>55850985
not yet anon not yet
it always starts innocently

>>55851319
A great time

>>55851319
>htshit

>>55851319

While kind of overpriced, it's a pretty kick ass device. HTC got kind of shitty in recent years and i've never seen a company go back to the drawing board so hard only to actually deliver.

Now I wish Sony released more shit

How does the op3 compare to the nexus 6p? I've given up on having an msd slot.

Any suggestion for a phone that is at least as fast/responsive/whatever as an lg g3 that has a good onboard DAC? I was told the lg v10 dac is really good for a phone but i'd like to know if there are any other options.

why do browser for android need access to gps? is there one that do not need it?

>>55851525
Much better.

Just got a Zenfone 2 for free. This piece of shit makes me restart it everytime because the touch buttons stop working for no reason.

About to buy a Nexus 6P. Anything I should consider before I pull the trigger?

Hello /g/ I have a question about cases on smart phones. I recently put a case on my phone but it seems so thin that I doubt it would even help prevent damage in the event of me dropping it. Do cases actually protect a phone from fall damage?

Xiaomi Mi5 - HTC 10 - OP3

Which one would be the best?

>>55851386
It certainly does. IMHO Xiaomi fucked up the Redmi Pro completely.
Useless dual cam instead of one good cam, no SD652 variant, some dubious chink OLED, no dev support, locked and iClone OS, still no LTE 800 and all this will cost you at least 300.
If chink resellers will go full Mao Zedong mode and want 350 for it, you might as well buy the Alcatel Idol 4S or get the RN3P which costs half but has only 20-25% less raw power on paper.

>>55851884
Price/performance: Mi5
Audio/build: HTC10
Raw power: OP3

>>55850663
I have an Android phone with Cortina installed on it and connected to my windows 10 machine that shares a network with my family's windows 10 PCs. Maximum botnet.

>>55848679
I did. Though it was a backward ass way to get it done. You need to unlock bootloader, install twrp, and then use a backup of said from and restore it within twrp as opposed to just installed the ROM fresh. If you try to install fresh from 6.0, it's just bootloop city.

I ended up just saying fuck it because the problem I had with 6.0 was a bug that was affecting nova launchers animations, but nova launcher provided a root workaround to fix the issue. Everything is perfect now.

>>55851977

I'm going rn3p

Moving to NIPPON in October and my HTC one m8 won't work with their bands.

>>55851030
How's the performance? Does it lag, stutter and/or overheat sometimes? I'm thinking of buying it, but those complains of overheating hold me up.

Hey /g/ my S7 has frozen and it doesn't do anything now.
Can't turn it off or restart no buttons or combination do anything.

Any idea what I could do? I doesn't charge either.
I would remove the battery but oh wait...

>>55852235
Have fun, wish i could go there one day.

>>55852673
Press and hold "Power", "Home" and "Volume Up" button simultaneously for few seconds until you see a warning message on the screen.
Press Volume Up button to enter recovery mode, if asked.
In this Galaxy S7 recovery mode you can factory reset, wipe data, wipe Dalvik cache and wipe cache partition easily.
Use volume up/down to navigate and press home button to select the option.

If it doesn’t happen, simply press and hold the Power button and the Volume Down key at the same time for about 7-8 seconds.

>>55851745
suicide

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Are there any good cheap android phones with physical buttons on the market? I don't want to deal with this touchscreen cancer.

any note5 fags here. just got one yesterday cuz i switched from verizon to sprint because verizon completely got rid of all the grandfathered accounts. mainly used my verizon phone to teather wifi. anyone know any teathering apps that work for sprint.

Anyone excited for the Note 7 reveal in 2 days?

>>55853304
literally a bigger s7 edge: the phone

>>55852945
>If it doesn’t happen, simply press and hold the Power button and the Volume Down key at the same time for about 7-8 seconds.
thank you so much anon that revived it

>>55853228
>i switched from verizon to sprint

Just cut your dick off too, why don't you

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>>55840153
Looking for a new phone to replace my LG G2, have had my eye on the Zenphone 3, but Asus has yet to give a U.S. release date, and i'm not sure what else is out there.

Here's my criteria-
>Max at $300, may go over 50~100 if need be
>Powerful CPU (I emulate via RetroArch, and from what I understand, emulation is more CPU-intensive than GPU
>Low input lag if possible (I plan on having my DS4 hooked up to it via micro USB cable)
>Good GPU for regular droid vidya
>Good camera
>Good battery
>Micro SD expansion
>Good support for custom ROMs (It's been a while since I've dabbed into this)

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>Dash Charging is one of the key features of OnePlus 3 highlighted during the launch. We were mighty impressed by the Dash charging technology during our review. The technology used helps the OnePlus 3 go from 0 to 60 percent of battery charge in 30 minutes. After going through the code and making the first custom ROM, the developers realised that code for Dash charging was not present. This left all the custom ROMs and custom kernels without supporting the technology.

I'd rather not root, but has anyone played around with root with the OP3?

Also, because of quick charging being linked to the given adaptor, what happens if you use a power bank with the OP3? Will it still 'distribute heat' or will it get hot like normal usb c devices / nexus 5x?

What's the best 5" phone to buy off contract these days? Is the Redmi 3x a good one? Basically I'm looking for a Oneplus X, but more recent.

I don't have a smartphone, but I am considering getting one. Is there a way to avoid Google/Applel datamining or is it completely unavoidable currently?

>>55847058
How's battery life?
Is it true that the screen has a pinkish tint to it?

>>55851637
As in the op3 is better? Why do you think that is friend?

>>55851150
Axon 7 is a piece of overrated shit.

Good hardware specs but shit software.

Deal with it.

>>55853784

No. Take off the tinfoil. You aren't important.

>>55854164
>Good hardware specs but shit software.
Literally OP3.
OP3 is completely overrated, too.

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I have the Galaxy S7 (SM-G930P) from sprint, but i'm not currently living in the USA and i don't get the updates (plus the hands free activation doesn't work) can i update to the latest version (G930PVPS2APG1) using the sammobile firmware while keeping the phone unlocked to work in my country?

Also, if i update and i have problems, can i go back to the previous version to fix it?

>>55854420
>$399
>Almost flagship quality for non premium price
>Charging is a breeze

Only downfall is the microSD but even 32GB is enough for standard users

Any sub 5 inch phones worth picking up?

>>55854481
Battery is shit, DashCharge™ only works wit OP charger and cable, display is mediocore at best, audio as well, cam bump is annoying as hell and the sandstone is gone, unless you pay for it.
If you care for more than raw power or stats i can't see how you'd possibly get an OP3.

>>55854164
>has to resort to lying and misrepresenting reviews to trashtalk a fucking cellphone
Nigga that alone should tell you that either you're insecure as shit about the phone you bought or you couldn't find anything to really criticize in the Axon 7. Which is weird because the software does have a couple downsides and minor issues, and the camera is worse than the OP3's so I don't see what you're so butthurt about. Axon 7 and OP3 exist as perfectly viable alternatives to one another right now.

I have a few questions.
In the market for a new phone, budget $400.

Currently using Moto X 2013, but it has tons of issues now.

Anyways:

What is the best I can get NEW for $400? I was looking at OP3, N6P, Axon 7.

What is the best option of those?

What is daydream and why is the Axon 7 the only one that is certified for it? Does that matter?

>>55854845

nexus

>>55853452
Carrier?

>>55853765
Budget.

>>55854142
Yes.
SD820>SD810
6GB meme RAM
Screen is normal sized.

>>55854428
If it's ain't broken..

>>55854525
No.

>>55854845
OP3>AX7>killing yourself>N6P.

>>55854860
>Carrier?
Wal Mart's Straight Talk, though I may eventually switch as I need unlimited data.

>>55854860
I'll spend as much as I have to. But let's say $350 since that's what I paid for my OPO.

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Canadians out there?

Coming from a Nexus 5, simple android apps and Pokémon go.

What's the best phone out there, contract or no contract doesn't matter?

If by contract, <$60/mo and <$400 for phone
If off contact, <$600
All in CAD$

>>55854901
Well for $300 you can get away with aa chink SD820 if
>Powerful CPU (I emulate via RetroArch, and from what I understand, emulation is more CPU-intensive than GPU

Is what matters most to you. Zuk Z2 or Le Max 820. not sure if they work on walmart or whatever so check that out. otherwise, you might wanna add a $100 and get OP3.

>>55854880
>shilling this hard
The cult of 1+ strikes again.
>>55854845
Depends on what you want out of a phone.

N6P is the pure android deal where you get lots of fast updates and good support, but otherwise the phone will soon be outclassed by the new stuff coming out very shortly.
Axon 7 isn't the only Daydream certified phone, but will be one of the first. Daydream is basically a VR headset/ setup that Google is releasing. ZTE partnered with them to be one of the first phones to use it. Basically it's an improved phone VR experience and A7 has a fast processor + beautiful screen to support that. Daydream will also require Android N. This is why A7 is all about the visuals, awesome DAC for accurate and good sound.
OP# is really fast and has nice software support. Because of the lower res display+ oxygen OS customizations + 6gb ram it is one of the best performing phones out there but has some bugs and issues that you should be aware of and lacks much of anything special about it beyond the raw performance.

used z5 for $350

Y / N

My 5x is good except for the following
>If I lie on my side and talk on the phone, ppl complain like I'm "underwater"
>Speakers are way too low. I don't care about extreme clarity but I can barely use the speakers for decent home use.
>Battery is decent for me. I'd like the next phone to be "good", I don't need amazing.

What's the next phone for me?
Sell the 5x when the next nexus comes?
Get the OP3?

>>55855574
lol no

>>55854860
>If it's ain't broken..
I have several bugs, random restarts, black screen of death and apps getting stuck at %25 CPU usage without being able to close them eating the battery away.

>>55855597
what else is good around that price point?

>>55855610
That sounds like a faulty device 2bh, RMA this shit.

>>55855574
hell no

>>55855642
see
>>55854989
Ax7/OP3.

>>55855642
>what else is good around that price point?
ur mom for a weekend.
At 350$ you can get an Alcatel Idol S4, RN3P, Redmi Pro, 5X, 6P, Moto G4 or an OP3 for 50$ more. Depends on what your priorities are.

>>55855669
op3 has no sd card slot which is a deal breaker, axon 7 looks good but its over my budget

>>55855758
>>55855714
All these are great options as well on a budget.

>>55855016
What issues does the OP3 have?

>>55855778
>Having to repeat that shit in every single thread
Here we go :
>shit-tier pentile display
>shit battery life
>shit camera
>chink engineering, might break at any second
>''''''Oxygen OS''''''

>>55855777
i live in burgerland so I can't use a chinkphone, and i need an sd slot

which is why I turned to the z5 cause it seems to be the only fuckin premium phone that has an sd slot

>>55853973
>How's battery life?
I burn through the battery fairly quickly when using wireless and browsing around or watchign some videos with the screen on.

Depending on what you do it could last a whole day or around 4 hours or so. Takes about half an hour to recharge from 50%.

>Is it true that the screen has a pinkish tint to it?
I don't notice a pink tint when looking at a white background on default Vivid color setting.

If I go to display options though and switch to sRGB color profile I start to notice the tint you described.

>>55855827
I figured you had some unnoticed secret issue that no one else knew about or something.

>>55855831
RN3P and Idol 4s both work in burgerland and theyr'e far better.

>>55855831
The Idol 4S could be interesting for you. It's basically an upgraded and more expensive (350$) version of the RN3P with rather stockish Android, i guess..
The only real downside is the 3000mAh battery. You could look into the ZUK Z2, too, but it might not be compatible with US carriers.

>>55855778
Mostly stuff regarding audio recording, camera issues and certain other OS-related glitches.

I want to pull the trigger on a RN3P but they're sold out at GearBest. Should I try to find another retailer that will give me a non-spywared phone or just pick one up and put CM13 on it?

>>55855921
Get it from Ali if in the US. honorbuy if in the EU.

http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro

Are the new nexuses worth waiting for or should I fall for the Oneplus Meme? The lack of an SD slot isn't important.

>>55855893
the idol 4s looks pretty interesting, bit hesitant though as alcatel is a relative unknown to me

>>55856180

According to their website they're the 4th largest shipper of phones in the US, which i find hard to believe.

>>55855831

They work for burgers but only on att and tmo

>>55856180
It's a b-tier brand but it's ok. Can't be worse than chink phones. Anyways, don't spend more than 350$ on this phone, even 350$ is a little too expensive imo.

>>55856135
It's launching in October depends if you can wait.

>>55856375
alright..

i think im just going to get the z5 for 350 then

>>55856493

we already told you that you're being stupid and wasting your money on that, but okay

>>55856493
Ok, retard.

>>55853330

How so? It seemed like it had alot going for it.

>>55856493
If you want to waste your money, go on.. but don't waste our time.

>>55855953
Thanks, I guess I'll give this vendor on Ali a shot.

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>>55856543
but theres nothing else around this price point that has an sd card

OP3, 6P...no sd card

>>55856565
Idol 4S has SD, RN3P has SD, Moto G4 has SD...

>>55856565
http://www.productchart.com/smartphones/

stop wasting our time if you arent going to listen to us

>>55856597
im not falling not falling for your chinkphone memes

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>>55856619
kys.

>>55855890
>RN3P
Stop memeing this it lacks B12 and B17

Thoughts on xiaomi redmi 3?