/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>55821604
>it looks hideous for a tablet
Didn't you look at it before buying it online? Cmon man.
The Tablet series up until maybe X240 Tablet look garbage.
>Is the X220 any better?
X220 is good, mine had heat problems that were fixed by disabling intel speed step and by applying PERFECT THERMAL PASTE desu
The hinges are undoubtedly better because the tablet uses one hinge.
I'd stick with the tablet version, you'll end up losing money by swapping one for the other, and it'll essentially be the same specs.

>>55821662
First for Tomes stop trying to find me in these threads

>>55821704
Yeah but I didn't expect the x220t to look this ugly. Not to mention the battery life is 3.5 hours!

>>55821736
>>>55821704
>Yeah but I didn't expect the x220t to look this ugly.
It'll grow on you, remember memepads arent a meme cause they look great
>the battery life is 3.5 hours!
This a new battery?
I bought one of the genuine 6 cells and im able to get up to 6/7 hours depending on what I'm going

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Joined the thiccpad club. Now I need to do a fresh install of XP on it.

>>55821819
Do you know if UUI works eith XP ISO's?

I chickened out from reapplying the thermal paste on my x200 when I realized I had to take the entire thing apart and take out the motherboard because the heatpipe and the CPU is upside down.

I did clean it out tho, and it's not nearly as hot anymore.
I'm still not sure why the heat seems to be eminating from the bottom right of the laptop.

Maybe it's my wireless card?

>>55821786
It's a new $26 battery! It's 9 cell

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>>55821736
that's some shitty battery life for an x220. what power plan are you using, what brightness, what is your battery's "health", etc

>>55821953
Should have got a Mibook air.

Tell me the truth, lads. Which ThinkPads has Lenovo loaded botnet on? Serious question.

>>55821953
26 dollars gets you a genuine battery?

>>55822007
Not an x220 . and x220t

>>55821953
>$26 battery
Pretty sure you fucked up, the genuine ones are supposed to cost a lot more than that, and the cheap third party ones are notorious for not holding a lot of charge
>>55822035
They should get similar power use, the touch screen component isnt that needy

>>55822011

Superfish was only on 2014-2015 consumer models and was never included on any Thinkpad.

>>55822011
>lenovo loaded botnet
All of them
>seriously
None of them, bloatware maybe. All laptops are potentially a botnet if you dont have an expensive libreboot flashed thinkpad

>>55822050
>>55822029
Fug. How much does a legit battery cost.

>>55821819
Anyone know where to get the default IBM shit for XP? IBM doesnt have it anymore it seems and there is no way lenovo does.

Got my hands on a free dell latitude 2100. What lightweight linux distro should i install?

>>55822181
I paid 100 NZD for mine if i remember correctly, or 80, go figure

>>55822192
Have you checked the Lenovo support website?
They have XP drivers for my IBM X41 Tablet and that's as old as anybody should dare to use

/o/ here. Just like to thank you guys in veering me to buy a x220 tablet about 6 months ago. Placing the laptop anywhere and(under car, engine bay)and turning the screen to follow pdfs is really really handy. Makes some peeps are jelly.

>>55822270
>Placing the laptop anywhere and(under car, engine bay)and turning the screen to follow pdfs is really really handy.
I have an X41 Tablet for that exact reason!
Glad to see you liked the meme

>>55822255
Nope. THe only G series shit they have is for their ideapad line.

>>55822300
Well fuck, have you checked the wiki? Might be some cunt hosting a driver repository for it

>>55822192
You mean the system restore discs? Lenovo still sells them

>>55821662
bump

>>55821662
Is a W500 still worth buying in 2016? I've found one for auction with a couple hours left and no one has bid on it, its in mint condition and looks like it runs fine.
These are the specs;


Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz
Memory: 4GB
Hard Drive: 300GB SATA
Graphics: ATI FireGL V5700 512MB

>>55822328
http://thinkpads.com/support/Thinkpad-Drivers/download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/ddfm/G40.html
Found this after some googling. Seems to be exactly what i need.

>>55822351
Really? that seems weird to me. I guess that ThinkPad support is forever.

>>55821919
Could be possibly, it might be bad ventilation inside the laptop though and the heat is pooling up there due to lack of airflow.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8968799-38-off-lenovo-thinkpad-x-t-series-675 Did you guys see this?

What can I do with a T23 besides debadge it to put IBM logos on my x220T?

I'll do whatever, it's just sitting in my closet

>>55822007
wallpaper?

>>55823338
You can get those badges on ebay for $2 each m8, dont ruin an old laptop.

>>55823338
Install a lightweight linux distro and use it for shitposting, play old vidya games on it, disassemble it for fun, if it works you could sell it in a couple years as it will be a collectible.

>>55821953
of course you fucked up, tablet version doesn't have 9cell, which means you got chink'd, expect housefire

Should I upgrade my W510 screen to 1080p?

>>55823946
Sure, the higher resolution the better, as long as the upgrade isn't ridiculously expensive.

>>55821662
Hey boii
I found an old thinkpad Z60
What can i do with that ? Can i put libreboot/coreboot on it ?

>>55823952
It's about 80 something euros to buy a new screen, obviously I can replace it myself. However, wouldn't upgrading hurt my gaming performance? I play Dota 2 and it's already running pretty meh on 1600x900.

What's the best screen that I can put in my x230?

>>55823990
If you're planning to run at the same settings you'll lose a few fps but you could drop the settings a bit more if possible, or you could just run the new screen at a lower resolution when in game, it may not scale perfectly but it would stop the fps drop.

>>55823999
1366x768 IPS, but that resolution is still pretty good on a small screen.

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Zapping a BIOS lock on a T30.

>>55824285
>overpaying for that bullshit seeeduino trash instead of just using an i2c circuit to read and decrypt the password
nigga

I was thinking of getting a x220, but I really want a 1920x1080 screen(1920x1200 is good as well). What are my options? I could go with a later model.

I hate how the X220 throttles CPU speed when using AC.

Can it hurt to use Throttlestop to prevent throttling?

>>55821662
How does a decent quality T420 refurb perform at high-ish ambient temps? My T60 just gave up the ghost for the third time in 35 C summer weather and I really can't be assed to replace the heatsink and fan assembly again.

>>55824513
Have you been monitoring the temps and power and such when it's throttling. If the temps are in order and it looks to be capable of supplying enough power, I don't see any harm but make sure your temps are acceptable above anything else.

Has anyone upgraded the screen on a t410? It's already got a 1440x900 one in it, I'd just like something better quality if possible.

>>55822181
I was thinking of replacing the cells in my 9-cell battery. New cells cost around $10 each for good high-capacity ones. Assume they get the cells wholesale and that's still significantly more than $26.

>>55822688
Still a perfectly good computer. What's the starting bid?

>>55824573
Would you say a max temperature of around 65 degrees Celsius is acceptabele?

>>55824625
some of these laptops run at that idle, so I'd say you're golden.

>>55824373
Meh.

>mfw T30 is hot as shit. Guess we gotta repaste. Keyboard went to shit.

>>55824634
Okay, cool.

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>>55821819
FInally got it upgraded to SP3. Waiting on a new keyboard because I'm missing E, left, and previous.

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X240, crack in the casing behind the display. Can this easily be replaced? Where can I buy the casing?

Just bought a 2014 X1 Carbon, planning on installing Linux as soon as it arrives, any other tips/tricks that I should know about
>inb4 keyboard design, I know it's retarded

>>55825888
And why would you pay money for that?

>>55825912
I was primarily looking for a laptop with a good screen and my research suggested X1 Carbons have the best screens of the moderately priced Thinkpads, also I fell for the mechanical keyboard meme so I can just use it to type at home

>computrace enabled
If I let this thing have internet access, what'll happen?

>>55825744
use a heatgun :)

The top right corner of the screen on my 600e gets hot after using it for a few minutes, any idea what could be causing this?

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>>55823342

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>just ordered a T460

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Picked this up today for $200 at a local pawn shop.

It's the shit display.


Then went to my local frys and grabbed the RAM and SSD for $70.

I have a caddy and some thermal paste on its way.

What do I do now?

After using my 4:3 thinkpads and my 16:10 monitor, i cant fucking stand the 16:9 screen of my t420 anymore. rip.

>>55826640
>my T60 originally had the shit-tier 1024x768 panel
>thought my X220 and T420 were just fine
>upgraded the T60 to 1600x1200 IPS
>can't even bear to look at the other two anymore

>>55826634
should've gotten an msata as a bootdrive and a 1tb hdd

>>55822011

E-Series:
E10-30
Edge Series:
Lenovo Edge 15
Flex-Series:
Flex2 14, Flex2 15, Flex2 14D, Flex2 15D, Flex2 Pro, Flex 10
G-Series:
G410, G510, G710, G40-30, G40-45, G40-70, G40-80, G50-30, G50-50, G50-45, G50-70, G50-80, G50-80Touch
Miix-Series:
Miix2 – 8, Miix2 – 10, Miix2 – 11, Miix 3 - 1030
S-Series:
S310, S410, S415, S415 Touch, S435, S20-30, S20-30 Touch, S40-70
U-Series:
U330P, U430P, U330 Touch, U430 Touch, U530 Touch
Y-Series:
Y430P, Y40-70, Y40-80, Y50-70, Y70-70
Yoga-Series:
Yoga2-11, Yoga2-13, Yoga2Pro-13, Yoga3 Pro
Z-Series:
Z40-70, Z40-75, Z50-70, Z50-75, Z70-80

.t support.lenovo.com

>>55826697
Yeah, i wish my x61t had the high res panel, same with my new G40.

>>55826702
I plan on using the 500GB HDD it came with.

This is going mainly be for animu and shitposting.

Is the 1600x900 display worth it in this case?

>>55826742
Dunno. I've never messed with the display on mine since it might affect the battery life.

Am I retarded if I want a T560?

Can someone please tell me where I can buy NEW batteries that aren't just recycled crap?

Every single time I buy a battery online it doesn't hold a charge or runs down in half the time it's supposed to.

>>55827187
Where are you buying them?

>>55827235
e-eBay

>>55827241
Try amazon and sold by lenovo themselves

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Hi /g/ents.

Some friend is giving me one of his old thinkpads for free.

Which one should I choose, T42 or T60?

>>55826634
>windows 10
That poor Thinkpad.

>>55827293
t60 lad

Am I missing something with the processors? Seems like the x220 i5s are performing better than the x230's on cpuboss. Doesn't seem right that the older processor would be performing better though.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3320M-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2540M

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>>55827333
Is there any reason in particular?

>>55827975
display

>>55826634
You can't ever completely disable windows 10 telemetry.
Microsoft is actively pushing towards making this ever harder to do as well - see the recent group policy change for example.
Even if you yourself are not concerned about the data collection, you still expose information about your friends and family via Microsoft's aggressive surveillance methods.
You should not use, support or endorse this operating system.

The spyware has been backported to Windows 7 and 8.1 as well.
You can much more easily remove it though - all it takes is uninstalling the related updates.
You can find out which via a quick google search for 'telemetry updates for windows 7 and 8.1', and then hiding them in Windows Update.
Don't forget to check for these every month or so, as Microsoft can push out new updates anytime that can reinstall the spyware.

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>>55821662
HYPE
I have 4x4gb of ram and a PSU to use with it as my dedicated windows server/vm machine.
now I can use my t420 for casual use and as a backup computer in case I break my main machine.

>>55827258
Okay ty

nice IRC

>>55828971
I am *very* upset at the IRC channel. I want to buy a thinkpad x220 and all I see is wikipedia! What the heck?

>>55828984
dude same

>T420s randomly getting a flashing multi colored crash screen

It's dead isn't it? It doesn't occur very often, I think i can hold it until I get a new one

>>55821704
I had one once. RMA'd it and just stuck with my X61t instead. Even though it ran cold enough, the digitizer on mine was an inaccurate shitstain and the pen would randomly quit transmitting so lines would be cut short.
>>55821736
I got some pretty poor battery life with it, too. On a genuine battery still with 95% of its capacity, no less. About 3h. Even my X61t outran it, and I had turbo mode off and everything.

if i just want a CHEAP laptop to just fuck around with and learn the ins and outs of linux should i just go with a t60?
i have a desktop for everything else

im a turbo poorfag please no bully

>>55829484
Yeah, it'll be fine.

>>55829484
>10 years old
>32 bit

get a t400 or a dell e6400, it's slightly newer and takes ddr3

>>55829615
but muh 4:3

>>55824620
50 bucks plus 20 postage, AUD

>x220 trackpad

JUST

>>55829484
The only problem is that the T60, while good for older/lightweight linux distros is that new distros will be more taxing on the hardware and web browsing will become a pain due to the low ram.

>>55827826
They're about equal in terms of CPU power however the iGPU of the 3rd gen i5 is much better than that of the 2nd gen.

>>55827975
moar power
newer (more parts available)
here, have an official (you)

I have a lenovo brand battery for my x220. It came with the laptop and is in poor condition.
How would I go about swapping the cells out? Where would I buy cells?

>>55829935
Just buy a new battery, replacing cells is idiotic IMHO

>>55826911
Yes, you should just get a T460/T460s/T460p/P50

>>55829946
I'm willing to try to save money.
I overpaid for the laptop already. I'd hate to give another hundred bucks for a battery that just has newer cells. I already have a battery, just old cells.

>>55830011
You could buy a battery for far less than a 100 bucks.

>>55829935
https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/hf004122

>>55830244
I already tried the battery recall, thanks though Anon.

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Are there Thinkpads out there which i can use for gaming fairly new games at 60fps? I mostly need a workhorse pc/ laptop atm and i had good experiences with Thinkpads, but i also like to play some games in my free time. Is it worth buying a thinkpad to do both or should i split my 900€ budget on a used thinkpad and a desktop/laptop/ console for gaming?

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>>55824454
X220 1080p mods require some opening up of the device, and they use the displayport. In other words, with a modded X220 with 1080p, you can't use the displayport. Same for X230 which like the X220 otherwise only has 768p displays

T420 has 1080p mods that don't sacrifice the displayport, as does the T430, most people report success but a few have scanline issues.

If you want ultraportable the X240 upwards do 1080p but you lose a whole lotta legacy ports and their keyboards and internal builds are pretty lackluster compared to the X220

T520 has 1080p, as does W520, great machines but larger than the X220.

The X200s and X201s have 1440p displays but I think they're not IPS, and they'd have slower cpus which won't matter much unless you play light games or watch high quality videos / stream high quality content online

T61 has some 1920x1200 but it's quite big compared to an X220 and noticably slower


Personally I have an X220 and I use an external display at home. Many with T420 laptops still use external displays for 1080p and higher / multiple monitors, so I figured I'd go ultra portable and use monitors at home

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Bought one of these unboxed and it was fantastic for a couple of months but all of a sudden last week or so it just died

It doesn't display charge if I press the display charge button, it doesn't light up or charge when I plug it in, the laptop doesn't detect a battery inserted when I drop my X220 in

Should I remove the stickers and unscrew it to see what's going on inside? Is it a common problem for slice batteries to an hero?

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Yo /tpg/ I got $600 and want some thing to replace the Lenovo Yoga pro 2 I got when I entered college can someone recommend and decent ThinkPad that isn't that much bigger or thicker than the yoga Pro 2 (dimensions or the yoga pro 2: 12.99" x 8.66" x 0.61" W x D x H)

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anons, I think my T430 consumes a little bit too much power.
Should I upgrade the PSU to 135W? I see my battery gets discharged when I load my system with 90W PSU.

>>55831978
Are you sure it can take the bigger PSU? My W520's 170W adapter has a special plug that isn't compatible with any of my other Thinkpads.

>>55832091
I'm not. 135W uses the same power cord as the 90W and 65W ones.

I don't know much about computers, and I've been trying to educate myself as best as possible. I was using an HP Pavillion dv6 for uni until a while ago because a buddy gave it to me for free. I stopped trying to run any games on it because when it wasn't overheating the framerate was so abysmally low that I couldn't enjoy myself. I just used it for browsing and schoolwork, but even that was slow. I’m looking at buying a ThinkPad but I don’t know where to start. The sticky seems a bit dated. So far what I’ve come up with are the T420, X220, and T520 as affordable options but I hear the T420 and X220’s graphical capabilities and resolution are subpar. I like to stream movies and shows too. What would be a good budget option for me? I’m just looking for something
>reliable
>decent performance
>sub $800 but I’d like to get it below $600

Are any of the current thinkpad line particularly upgradeable?

>>55832198
Just turn off Turbo Boost. It makes next to no difference in real world performance, but uses a ton of power and generates a ton of heat. Given that you're only slightly over the limit, that should be enough to drop you back into safe ranges.

>>55832429
At that pricepoint just buy something new. $800 can get you a nice snappy laptop with a great screen

>>55832450
>next to no difference in real world performance
Lol what
It gives me +1GHz on two physical cores or +0,50GHz on four cores when it's needed, so shit like firefox works perfectly with it.

>>55832477
Say I only had $350

can i get a quad core i7 + 500 GB SSD model 13-15 incher for under $1000?

especially right now with the deals available http://slickdeals.net/f/8968799-38-off-lenovo-thinkpad-x-t-series-675?src=catpagev2

>>55832578
W520s are in the $350-$450 range. If you can't find one with an SSD, they're cheap enough that you'll have plenty of budget left to buy your own, which you should be doing anyway because used storage is a no-no and lelnovo overprices horribly if you order a new one with an SSD.

>>55832559
>portable (not luggable)
>cheap
>good vidya performance
Pick two.

>>55832707
I don't plan on playing any of the newest shiniest shit like Overwatch, any mobas, or anything like that. I'd probably just dick around playing older games on Steam like I dunno Hotline Miami, Borderlands 2, or Dark Souls. I don't give much of a shit about the weight and the performance doesn't have to be that great.

>>55832802
>I don't give much of a shit about weight
So you won't be taking it to class at all?

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=J8Z55ET&opt=ABU&mastersku=J8Z55ET&masteropt=ABU&sel=NTB&

>>55832833
I'd take it to class when I thought it was necessary for lecture and bring it with me when I go back home or on a trip somewhere, but for the most part it'd stay in my dorm. I don't mind lugging around something that weights maybe 6 or 7 pounds. How bulky and unwieldy can they be?

>>55831513
u have warranty? use it
u don't? go inside, I want to see what's inside as well

>>55832941
W520 (which is the model you'd be looking for given your price range and desired performance) is not so big or heavy by itself. The ridiculously huge 170W charger is the real killer.

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Not thinkpad but i now have about 25 thinkstations. These are just a few, most are E30s some E31s a pair of m91ps and about 6 S20s

>>55829890
>web browsing will become a pain due to the low ram.
Just don't use Chrome or Firefox and you'll be mostly fine. Seamonkey is very lightweight, perfectly suited to the T60.

Give me one good reason why I shouldnt buy this?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6410-I5-4GB-RAM-250GB-HDD-Inkl-Windows-7-Ultimate-Lizenz-/282108398795

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i'm looking for a laptop that has a quad-core i7 and is not super fucking heavy ( sub-5 lbs preferred) and besides that is mostly a blank slate that i can put $250 of upgrades towards the 500 GB SSD and 16 GB of RAM. hopefully the whole thing can come to under $1000 USD.

Is this possible? would i have to buy used/ refurbished?

also, where do people usually go about buying new thinkpads? the lenovo website itself doesn't have a very large selection available.

should i kill myself?

should i castrate myself?

am i retarded?

>>55834444
The easiest obstacle to remove here is your physical weakness. Stop being a bitch that can't lift and you can get a W520 or W530 that meets all your other needs within your price range.

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>>55834444

I know this is the meme thread but are any of the modern thinkpads good? Considering an x1 yoga for bed time reading and browsing.

>>55821662
Finally recived my X220t.
It's super comfy.
Anytoughts on how to fix the hinge? Mine is a bit flimsy.

>>55835447
They're good. Better than any consumer laptop.

is there any non-shady battery vendor that sells proper batteries for thinkpads?
My brand new x201t's battery carries a measly 2000mAh charge if full. That's less than the average phone battery and those are tiny. How does lenovo get away with this?

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Sexy.

>>55835686
replace your 3dpd keyboard with the classic one, desu baka

>>55835801
>muh classic keyboard

>>55835848
Cuck spotted.

>>55835848
it's much better than your 6row clusterfuck. replace or kys

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>>55835686
>non-pe4l egpu
>atx psu
>2016
kys

>>55835873
Epic maymay
>>55835865
Yeah, the classic keyboard isn't a clusterfuck who flexes like jell-o.

>>55835686
>>55835903
>eGPU
Why?

>>55832841
>price corrects in the basket

>>55835926
because having two PCs is literally pointless?
why should I gaym on one and do work on the second one when I can plug eGPU to my thinkpad to gaym and unplug it when I want to do real job?

>>55835979
I don't now, because performance will be affected anyways?

>>55836004
It depends on the used GPU. In case of 750/750Ti there won't be ANY difference in benchmarks between eGPU and native PCIe.

>>55836097
That's the point. I have a GTX 980 and the performance is awful. And also I need the performance of a desktop for other task that my X220T doesn't cut.

>>55835979
>because having two PCs is literally pointless?

You know you're posting on /g/ right? One PC is normie tier

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>>55832948
I have no idea what I'm looking at

Is there no 9cell option for the X230T or is Lenovo shit at documentation?

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd012165

Only see 3 and 6 cell variants

>>55836128
>GTX 980
>mobile CPU
wew lad, you can kys right now
You don't need GTX 980 to play gaymes.
>>55836149
>normie tier
you mean sane tier, right?
laptop + server master race is the only master race. Server can also act as rendering engine for gaymes via steam home streaming.

>>55836152
You can integrate some memory inside it, you know it, right?
dock connector offers couple of USB lines

>>55836177
>the only use of a GPU is for play gaymen
Normies get out.

>>55833110
where you at man?
I'd love to buy one from you to put my server into that sexy case.

>>55836235
It is. kys cuck

>>55836225
Wait what?

All I know is it's an extra battery

Tell me more

>/v/ and its eternal GPU drivel is taking over /tpg/ too

wew

>>55836258
>all this butthurt

>>55836177
>source: my ass

>>55836318
kys
>>55836307
kys
>>55836278
There is plenty of free space in this battery, so you can solder some wires to the docking port and use them to connect some USB flash drives (even 512GB if you can afford these). If you use x220 with it you won't get USB 3.0 speeds tho, but it's still a very nice way to keep your important hidden shit.

>>55836360
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Is there any advantages to the slice besides no downtime in between swaps?

what's the best cooling solution for a t420? i just want to keep temps down as much as possible with something that allows it to be docked at the same time, maybe something that fits onto the vents on the side?

>>55836508
better cooling, less heat being transferred to your testicles

>>55824620
The best cells (Panasonic 3400mAh) are no more than $5-$6 each, and go on sale for $4 all the time.

>>55824620
>I was thinking of replacing the cells in my 9-cell battery. New cells cost around $10 each for good high-capaci
>>55836779
unless you know what you're doing it's not as simple as swapping out cells

is there one large driver bloat package you can install from shitovo for any specific model of Thinkpad or do you have to go through their software list and select what you think you will need?

>>55836895
Thinkvantage System Update

>>55836508
More weight for those situations when you need to use your laptop as a home defense weapon.

>>55836952
ah, thanks, is it worth installing this over specific modules in your opinion when it comes to personal use?
the computer is going to be running on battery most of the time

>>55831513
Disconnect AC power, take battery off and press the power button for 30 secs. After that plug everything again and see if it works.

>>55837005
It just makes getting and installing drivers a bit less of a pain, since you just have to run it, select what you want, and tell it to install everything instead of having to run through 15 install wizards and restart 5 times.

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>>55836974
>implying I would trust cheap gookovo """"Thinkpads"""" with my life
I have a G40 for that

>>55837040
>t, select what you want, and tell it to install everything instead of ha
oh, so they don't force everything on you. That makes sense. Thank you for the advice.

>>55837069
Kek. Same. 4.6lbs of heatsink and battery.

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Post yer /classic trackpoint/ pics anons

>>55837136
make sure to have oven mitts nearby at all times for safe handling

>>55834930
What model is this?

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>>55837151
>but muh wear

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>>55834930
>>55837163

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hi /tpg/

im thinkin on upgrading my laptop, should i be gettin T420 or a T460? i can get the former for like 200€ here in spain, but the latter looks and seems much better in term of components, but i don't want to get jewed

thoughts?

>>55837154
Mine doesnt get too hot, but then again it does have the low end 2.4 pentium.

>>55837198
Both are fine laptops.

>>55826100
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=114641

>>55835903
I might get a PE4C, my exp GDC is 99,9% problem free, but the hdmi plug borks itself every full moon.

>>55837022
Hold the slice's button down for 30 seconds? What'll that do, it just displays charge

The laptop's fine, in fact just last month i repasted it, before the slice died. Problem's definitely with the slice

>>55837481
PE4C is shit, get PE4L v2.1b

>upgrade from T60p to lightweight T450s
>only 1.6 kg
>immediately feel my muscles atrophying
>gaining fat
Help

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>>55837198
>fellow spainbro
>chaynah pic

eyyy


T460 has good 1080p screen, fast cpu, long battery life, USB3,
but shit keyboard and costs a lot

T420 is cheap, upgradable, very servicable and upgradable, has PCIe slot for egpu, amazing keyboard and mouseclit, blazeit, screenlatch
but mediocre cpu (still usable for nearly everything anyway), without screenmods you have a meh 900p screen non-IPS


Save some cash, get the T420 bro, doubt you'll notice much difference in performance for nearly everything anyway. But look into getting a better screen if it's not good enough for you. Still be cheaper than a T460

How come battery life is so much better on any Linux distro than on Windows

>>55837740
is that such a seriously difficult question to answer?

>buy thinkpad on ebay
>enable computrace and brick the system
>send it back and get a refund
>a week later buy a bricked thinkpad from the same vendor for dirt cheap
>unbrick it via computrace
has anyone tried this yet?

>>55837817
fuckoff

>>55837817
I'm not a nigger.

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>>55837610
i'll look into the T420 thoroughly, thanks shur

>>55837610
>T420
>mediocre CPU compared to the non-p T460
Sandy Bridge is stronk as fuck, barely any slower than the ULV Skylake in the T460. Its downsides are that it gets hot and doesn't have such great battery life, it's not lacking in power at all.

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>>55837954
That's why i then went and said for nearly all day to day tasks you won't notice a difference in performance anyway, but it's just to make it clear that the T420 has a 4 year older cpu than a T460, that's all

I have an X220 with the same kind of CPU and I don't need a new laptop for years

>>55826713
Get an SXGA+ X60T, though they are kinda hard to find, you could always nab a $30 unit shipped if you are lucky and patient enough.

>>55826911
First, explain why you want it.
I mean if you are getting it for the 3K panel, you can scale it, and dat vibrant colors too. I love my B140HAN01.3 on my T430s, same with the panel on the Pixel 2, kinda wish I didn't sold it, but dat ez moolah.

>>55828984
nigga, just drop an email to me or bug me through google+?

>>55826331
I don't think I've ever pulled one apart. Perhaps the LCD is just pinched ever so slightly at that part? Sometimes there are greenboard panels on the sides/top of the display, maybe a chip is getting hot, though usually only the inverter or backlight would be hot.

>>55827293
T42 uses a Pentium M, so you would have to deal with the non/force PAE bullshit if you choose a distro. T60 uses a Core Duo or Core 2 Duo, you can upgrade to a T7200/7400/7600 cheap nowdays, you would get decent performance.

T4x is slimmer, however there are issues about moboflex, which if held the wrong way, would brick your laptop. Then there's the thing about the GPU not having a heat sink...
>https://rdist.root.org/2007/06/18/ibm-thinkpad-overheating-chipset-fix/

T60 has had some hot ATI cards.

I'd say get the T42 if its a 15" IPS display (SXGA+ or UXGA) and the T60 is not.
The AC adapter on the T60 will power newer thinkpads, & haslel if you buy the rectangular slot converter.

>>55838007
>T60 has had some hot ATI cards.
This can be mitigated with a T500 heatsink. Cools the card much more effectively than the stock piece of shit.

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Ok so I'm considering to upgrade my X200s for school. I'd like for it to be powerful enough to run the newest Fedora linux with Gnome and be able to run google chrome with ~10 tabs open and do some school work (software dev). I'd appreciate a good battery life and portability. Price cap 1000€

>>55838117
Oh and 16:10 screen is a plus

>>55838117
>>55838132
Macbook Pro Retina.

>>55838159
Don't be like that

>>55838117
X201s

>>55831513
I haven't had a slice battery, but I did find a problem on an Ultrabay battery with a T400. I got it as a dead machine, but I decided to remove the ultrabay and bam it was a battery. Damn thing booted right up.

Afterwards I thought "Lets see if it works on my X61T" so I used my ultrabase, plugged it in the ultrabay, it was actually draining my primary battery and then that battery died too. It could of been a coincidence but I think those batteries had faulty chips or cells. I want to think that they just go to shit after being stored for too long IMO.

>>55831978
Are you using an OEM AC adapter? If so, maybe it went bad?
90W should be the standard, I know there were 135W that were like combo car/airplane adapters. But you shouldn't need one, unless you put in a quadcore i7 that isn't supported, but it doesn't make sense because a 90W would work fine.
>if all else fails, install gentoo

>>55838186
No more "s" versions. This one is shit

>>55838175
He wants a modern computer with 16:10 screen.
Almost no one than Apple still ships these.

>>55838260
It's a plus, not a requirement.

>>55838230
It's your only option besides >>55838159. X220 and later are all pleb-tier 16:9 shit. The i7 in the X201s is a hell of an improvement over the Core 2 Duo in the X200s, and if you were unlucky enough to get a 1280x800 X200s, you'll be glad to know that the X201s shipped with 1440x900 exclusively. The only problem with it is that it's a very rare model, so finding one may take some time and you'll probably have to pay quite a bit to get it, but it should still fall within your budget. Mine came to $450 and someone else got one for ~$250, so it's not that extreme like the W701ds.

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>>55838260

Well what do you know, successful people use Macs...

>>55838278
Then go with any Thinkpad of any x20 series and on.

>>55838355

It's a coin toss anon.

>1366x768 IPS
>1440x900 TN

>sound consistently stuck in "Dummy Output"
>run alsactl init

'Found hardware: "ThinkPad EC" "ThinkPad EC (unknown)'

I'm guessing it's a hardware problem?

>>55838399
I have a 1600x1200 T601F, so I know how nice an IPS screen is on a laptop, but in the case of a tiny machine like the X201s or X220, having to occasionally adjust the screen is much less annoying to me than the utter uselessness that is 1366x768.

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>>55838065
Yes, this is true.
I hadn't had a problem with my 14" T60p, as a matter of fact it was one of the most solid feeling laptop I had, without being clunky as a Dell D610.
Played league on my T60p, it played better than my original X61T lol.

>>55837817
Do you do the same shit at restaurants too?
My work's ebay account we block customers who do returns or other weird shit, or block their country to ship to. ":)

>>55837136
>>55837069
I remember one dude posting about buying a G40 but now it seems there is another?

Not ready to enter the club yet until I get an OS on mine. Til then I have my A31p and 770(s) for plus size ThinkPadfu

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?id=1219749486129&skuId=4456400

This a good deal?

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>>55837506
>asks for advice
>ignores advice

>bestbuy
>yoga
please stop

>>55839191
>muh old as fuck chinkpad

>>55839244
>pls validate my consumer line garbage purchase plans
jej

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>>55839178
Nigga I did it and guess what

Holding down the 'indicate how much charge the slice has' button did fuck all

Holding down the power button to hard shut down my laptop which was fine, did fuck all

If you don't know what could be wrong with the slice, don't guess an answer and waste my time, just say nothing and it'll be cool

bitch nigga

>>55839480
I'll explain one more time, apparently I wasn't clear enough for your thick brain.

Shut down;
Take out battery and ac plug;
Press power button for 30 secs to discharge capacitors;
Plug everything back again and try to turn it on.

No one talked about "hard shut down" or "indicate how much charge the slice has", or even "slice", for that matter.

If you ask for advice, try listening more and doing as you're told, and less acting like a jackass.

>>55839544
Regardless, I already did it

And besides, why would discharging an X220's capacitors fix the battery being broken m8

>>55839544
>or even "slice", for that matter.
but he did, he asked to fix his slice, not laptop

>>55839570
>>55839723
My mistake, I understood the laptop was dead.

>>55826702

the msata port is 3gb/seg

Ok so I want to use a laptop for programming app shit, drawing, and school

Here's the plan so far
>HP Elitebook 2760p
>8Giggerbyte DDR3L RAM
>1tb 5400 rpm HD(fuck fast speeds desu)
>Debian minimal upgraded to testing running dwm, miwm, or blackbox

Is this the right deal? What would you recommend?

>>55837527
Shit? Why?

>>55839843
so?

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In general, what are the best places to get offlease memepads for cheap? I know auctions are always an option but was wondering if anyone had any experience with this

>>55838378
wtf I hate Trump now

How bad are T400 TN screens?

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>>55840053
motherfucker you post one of my photos and don't know the awesome difficulty of my dankpads.com site?

Paid $260 for this 8760w from arrowdirect, added 12GB sold it for $600 before ebay/paypal/shipping fees.
It took me some patience to get it at that price.

>>55840099
They are not that bad though there are some that are CCFL and LED backlit, so different brightness factors and then the issue of the CCFL backlight dying. Better than T420's, and I have used both WXGA and WXGA+ units in the past.

Plus T400 can use a widescreen 14" T60 display, but the LCD cable is different so you need to keep the T400's and disassemble the lid, just just a simple lid swap.
Same goes with T/W500's and 15.4" T60's.

>>55821662

Just ordered my t420 laptop. Newegg has a special where you get a free docking station. do get. much excite

>>55840936
I also wanna do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAlTbA5GXQ

>>55841038
>2 drives
>not 3
pleb

I have a t520 and I'm wondering how can I increase battery life with Ubuntu? With Win10 I can play music or watch movies and it'll give me at least another 1 hr more than I would with Ubuntu.

So far I've been using Ubuntu with just documents and other light things...

>>55836254
Australia unfortunately. It is a nice looking case and im tempeted to put my 750d bulid in it, i would have t get a new cooler though and probabbly try and get a 120mm fan in the front because 92mm fan are obnoxious.

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>>55839159
I mainline this exact same machine from BBuy, don't listen to the haters, it works just fine. Nice IPS screen that's actually better than the cheapass hundo dolla Asus TN panel I use for my desktop

>>55841520
tlp, powertop, etc.

>>55826499
nice, now enjoy waiting 3-4 weeks for it to arrive. I just got mine a couple days ago and I'm loving it.

>>55821662
what is the thickest thinkpad

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Need something to shitpost from when I'm not in my mom's basement. Where's the best place to get refurbished thinkpads from?

>>55842188
How is it performance wise? I develop C# and need Visual Studio open almost all the time. I also like to play some Overwatch now and then, could it handle that?

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>>55842840
G40

>>55842899
>Where's the best place to get refurbished thinkpads from?
local market

if you live in a decent sized city there will be many available to you (assuming you live in US)

look on craigslist

ebay is slightly more expensive imo, and you are also competing with people from the whole world and not just in your area, and shipping will be a problem, and you can't immediately see the state of the thinkpad until you get it

but both are comparable

look on craiglist first

remember that you can upgrade the keyboard, hard drive, screen, ram, etc. - just find a cheap one with a good processor and body

>>55842913
>I also like to play some Overwatch
I recommend the Republic of Gamers laptop line

these are laptops by gamers, for gamers, and will definitely meet your needs. It also has an AWESOME design that I am sure a gamer dude such as yourself will appreciate

Just cleaned and repasted my t420. Installed xubuntu. Temps haven't went over 55C, before it was hitting 98C.

Comfy as fuck right now

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>>55842899
I get calls from people who supposedly buy E6420's & other i5 laptops for $40 to $60 complete from recyclers, granted they buy them in bulk but meh, I think they are bullshitting to be honest.

>>55842840
X220/30 with slice.

>>55842899
Just finished the final part of my Ivy Bridge Subnotebook guide.
>http://www.dankpads.com/2016/07/ivy-bridge-ultraportables-tablet.html
there some tablets in there too. ლↂ‿‿ↂლ

this is a stupid question but what are all the things I need to repair/open up my thinkpad?

my thinkpad is getting pretty hot, so I need to open it up and clean it out, and replace the thermal paste, right?

i-is this hard

>>55843307
phillips screw driver

>Tfw so poor right now I can't afford a used thinkpad and I need a new laptop

>>55843307
Have you disabled turbo boost and speed step yet?

I found a few W530s refurbed with 1080p screens, quad core i7s, and 500g SSD. I have an x220 that I really like but it is getting old and I'd like a bit of a speed upgrade. My work bag takes up to a 15" laptop so I think the size should be fine. And are there other options aside from the W530 I should be looking at?

Hi, /tpg/. I'm looking to replace a tablet-convertible with a laptop, and the buying guides seem to be all over the place so I figured I'd ask here.

Right now, I have an ASUS Transformer Book I picked up for around $200 two or so years ago. It runs Windows 8.1 and is pretty powerful for what it is, but the problem is that the touchpad is kind of unwieldy (since the screen is a touchscreen, if any dust gets on it the whole thing freaks out), the storage is really limited (32GB) and it can't do 1080p video properly.

What I'm looking for is something that:

- Runs Windows
- Can play 1080p video (incl. streams)
- Can handle having multiple large PDFs open at once
- Has a display large enough to comfortably read and do word processing on.

I don't know what size my current thing is (I think it's 10-12 inches) but I'd rather not get a gigantic tank of a laptop since I usually carry the tablet in a backpack.

>>55843465
I haven't found settings called turbo boost or speed step anywhere

but I did solve the heat problem, I changed the power plan to maximum battery life and now it never gets above 55 C

>>55843511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxqgXV2sOgw

Speed step is in bios under cpu

>>55843307
I just did this today. It's very easy, keep track of the screws though. Pasting is easy too, just a small dab in the middle should do it. The whole process was simple but also interesting, just take your time and be careful.

>>55843345
You don't have $140?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-T420-14-0-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-GHz-320-GB-HDD-4-GB-Memory-/381327064981

Is this any good? Newegg and manufacture refurb for $200.

>>55843743
Nope, just got laid off and need what's left of my money for bills

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So I did some battery performance tests on X220T 6-cell battery. Which should apply for ordinary X220 as well (For 9-cell theoretically just

multiply time value by 3/2 (or 1.5)). The results are kind of surprising, but not really. Method used was as follows:
Casual - fullscreen picture slideshow (simulating things moving on the screen (duh)) with some allways-on online radio (simulating wifi

usage (duh no. 2)), half brightness
Video - fullscreen video on loop (another duh), wifi on, but doing nothing, brightness 85% or closest value
Performance - video encoding through Handbrake, brightness zero + one point (so minimum but visible)
mSATA SSD, no HDD, 8 (4+4) GB RAM, i5 2520m; adaptive brightness, auto-screen-dim and other funny things like that were all turned off as

well as Turbo Boost

+-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 100% -> 10% |  Windows 7  |  OSX 10.11  |   Kubuntu   |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
|    Casual   |  4:39   8/15|  5:28   8/16|  4:20  10/20|
+-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
|    Video    |  3:58  13/15|  3:14  14/16|  3:01  17/20|
+-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| Performance |  1:27   1/15|  1:14   1/16|  1:07   1/20|
+-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+

If yo have any questions, wanna test something else or have other distro (!) or config to suggest, feel free to (You) me. Don't expect me to

answer before 18:00 CEST (6PM in retard time) (that is 8 hours or so from now), because I won't be home.
(also wifi card used for all test was DW1510, implying modded bios)

>>55842548
noted

>>55843772

I'm thinking of getting this now that I've seen it. Looks like it's a better option than some of the stuff on Newegg's main site, especially if you plan on replacing the HDD with an SSD. They sell a 500GB HDD model for $238.

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My god gents I got such a good deal today.
Mint condition X230 with good battery life, comes with thinkpad backpack, thinkpad mouse and lenovo cd writer
Got it for 350 NZD
So fucking stoked, can post pictures of laptop or the items it came with if requested

>>55844388
post pics of all items excluding the laptop

>>55842913
Performance is fine for me and can run all the games I play. Keep in mind I play rather old games like Mount & Blade, Dota 2 and modded Diablo II. However a couple of times the laptop shut down in the middle of Dota 2 due to over heating, which is irritating, to say the least. But that doesn't happen that often

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>>55844424
Mouse

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>>55844485
Dvd writer

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>>55844514
Backpack

>>55844388
>>55844485
>>55844514
>>55844532
congrats anon, I love the mouse

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>>55844535
Cheers, the mouse is actually tiny but its cute, memes considered

Noob here.
According to the buyers guide:
>An aftermarket Quad Core i7 CPU will work in a T420, but they do not come as standard on any T420.
Is this true for ONLY the t420? Could I use an i7's integrated graphics in the t420? If so than this is awesome.

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So Tempting...

>>55844564
We had this discussion last thread, the temperatures aren't good and you have to do a bios patch or something like that

>>55844604
What if we used something with a very low TDP like the i7-4790T (45W)?

>>55844695
It doesn't quite work that way. Haswell and later generations use different sockets from the T420, so they're physically incompatible. Ivy Bridge mobile processors share the same socket, but only work if you flash coreboot, which isn't quite as easy as a regular BIOS mod. The only quadcores that can be simply dropped into the T420 are Sandy Bridge QM chips found standard in the T520 and W520. I don't think there's any substantial difference in the integrated graphics between these quadcores and the standard dualcore i5s.

>>55844695
first of thats a haswell cpu so that won't work.
only sandy bridge, and ivy bridge (with a modded bios apparently) will work.
2 45 watt parts are the hot running parts. you'd need a 35 watt one to be in the nice temperature range.

>>55844695
>very low tdp
Sorry anon but the theory of relativity relates a lot to cpu's, you'd be sacrificing performance for tdp/heat.
I mean yeah you'll most likely have better l2 and l3 cache but the number crunching will be similar to the i5.
Fuck this is the internet and I'm spit balling here, I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it

>>55844594
Fuck. Im broke.

>>55844564
I was thinking about doing this, but apparently, it gets hot? I just wanted the extra CPU power. Note that I haven't bought the T420 yet, just planning what to do with it. If it's fine with the default CPU, I'll just not bother.

>>55845117
Just get a T520 or W520 instead. Their cooling was actually designed to handle a quadcore and the screens are infinitely better to boot.

Hey /tpg/!
Thinking of getting a Thinkpad for just everyday stuff, browsing the internet, a little programming and the like, won't be doing any gaming so I'm not looking for nothing too heavy.
A local shop has a few refurbished machines ready to go. Which should I look into, they've got: X220, X230, W520 and T420?
Thanks!

>>55845117
I bought a 2720qm for my T420, should be here the next week or so. Will post here if you want.

>>55845192
I'd pick the T420 despite the bad screen just because the Xs are too small imo and the Ws not portable enough for me.

If you want the ultraportables get the x230 though.

>>55845192
>>55845233
I disagree with this guy
X's are a good size for prog and surfing imo, and the x220 is better than the x230 from a price point and from a mechanical keyboard point of view.

I own both and I reckon x220 is much better

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Are there any worthwhile upgrades for the T410?

>>55844837
What about the T420s that come with i7 dual cores?

>>55838197
That's 45W i7-3630qm with turbo enabled and overclocked nvs5400m.

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>>55844557
Ok boys just got home and started franken padding
Took the keyboard and palmwrest and 6 cell battery off my x220 and put them on the x230, as well as taking out the msata ssd and replacing it in the x230
Things seem to be going well but im not sure if the x230 can actually accept an x220 battery
I mean its going but i feel like the charger might give the battery too much juice or something
I'll keep you kids updated

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>>55844594
>not buying them when they were a hundo

>>55844485
Had a bluetooth of that sucker, works good, well my dad has it now.

>>55843774
>tfw

>>55845773
>overclocked
well then thats fucking why.
Get the 135w you goof.

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>>55845816
Chickened out
Left click plus a whole bunch of keys on the x230 werent working, and until i properly suss out that theyre directly compatible im taking out the x220 battery
Msata ssd works however and its staying

Anyone else here got jewed by paypal?

I bought a T430 (i7/6GB RAM/500GB 7200rpm) for 260£m which ebay converted into 308€, and I would expect to be charged up to 310€ or something like that. What was my surprise to see that I was charged for 324€, all due to the paypal conversion rates. Fucking thieves.

>t420
>wangblows 8.1
I'm trying to set fan speed to 100%, but speedfan doesn't see the fan.Any ideas?

>>55845840
>S31

R A R E
A
R
E

Messing with some BIOS settings of my x220 right now
Should I disable Intel Speedstep technology? The fug does it even do?

>>55847523
JUST GOOGLE IT BRO

>>55847523
I already did that. Seems like some people have it disabled because it causes higher temps while others keep it enabled because it's useful.

>>55847559
>disabled because it causes higher temps

that's the opposite, speedstep clocks down your cpu

>>55845988
x220 batteries need a custom firmware to work, as does the x220 keyboard.

>>55847896
forgot my link http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

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embrace me, /g/

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Do the X220 tablet models have a decent enough touch screen for drawing with or should I just stick with an intuos/cintiq/ipad? A refurbished X220 seems like a great deal.

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I have a problem and I believe only /tpg/ can help me with.

I got T420, didn't notice it when I bought it.
But sometime there's no sound, not from the speakers, nor headphones.
I can still "see" the sound from the mixer but can't hear anything.
I can solve it by shaking it a few times.
And reproduce it if I shake it a few times.
What could be the cause?

>>55845685
The CPU in the T420s is soldered to the board, you can't change it even if you wanted to. The dualcore i7s are crap, they run hotter and devour more battery for minimal performance gain.

>>55848648
Loose speaker connection, or more likely a cable wear/fray induced short that is fixed or made worse by moving the wires around a bit. Download the HMM and crack it open.

new thread:
>>55848680
>>55848680

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>>55848673
I see, I thought it was HW issue, since the sound card name changes.
Will this cause issues on the long term? Is fixing it easy? also HMM? what's the H stand for?

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>>55845633
Higher res screen and a SSD.

>>55848720
On my world it means hamburgers.

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Just bought a P70 Thinkpad for $2,000


i7-6700

M3000M gpu

1 tb M.2 SSD NVMe

1080p no touch.


Rate my purchase pls

>>55848890
More than I can afford, pal.

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>>55849020

How do you guys work on 14" laptops?

You can't use excel like that. Especially with 720p.

Sad!

seriously though, how do you use the small laptop. Even 15.6" is small.

>>55849336
1440x900 for mine. And it's not the size, it's how you use it. Using just a WM that has minimal window chrome helps quite a lot.