/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for X201s

Second for X202s

third for X200T
last quality build tablet

>>55803750
Surely that would be the X201t since it uses the same chassis?

>>55803685
Based OP for making a proper thread.

>>55803735
I hear you, at the end of the day it's a C2D.

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Who here /classic trackpoint/?

>>55803760
ofcourse, they're the same gen

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>>55798983
>>55797718
Was here couple weeks back round the same time, praising the nip keyboard for its full size windows key, and for having both a long left shift and a large enter key.
Not even weeb, just can't stand the 3/4 sized windows key, and I like the long left shift so my pinkie just comes down from the A key to press (like on US keyboards) but I like the large enter key too (like on EU keyboards)
Tiny backspace shouldn't matter if you can reach the corner, and tiny spacebar shouldn't matter if you normally use the center of the spacebar anyway

>>55803750
>>55803760
Was the quality of the T40/T41/T42/T43 and X40/X41 the same as the T60/T61/X60(t)/X61(t) and the T400/T401/X200(t)/X201(t)?
Or did the quality slowly drop?

If it was the same, did the drop in quality only begin at the X200(t)/T420/T520/W520?

I noticed my X201 is of slightly better build than my X220, and my T60p is even better built in terms of rollcage and surviving drops, but I'm wondering if the big drop (the beginning of the end) happened from X201 to X220, or if the X200/X201 themselves were already steps down from their previous iterations.

I'd like specifics like stats on how many survive drops, rollcage builds, materials, shape/layout etc

>>55804004
b-but muh never wearing softrim

>>55804004
I do, it's clearly the best one

>>55804004
Love it. Won't use anything else.

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>>55804024
the most noticeable drop was after the X20*/W520 gen imo, then it continued to cascade down into the current abortion

>>55804024
It's me whit the pic. I saw that too, and I love the large enter key since that's what I'm used to.. Someone posted an ebay link around the same time conveniently enough and I managed to get it.

I have a Realforce keyboard for my desktop PC and it's the same layout, i love the extra keys taht you can remap to whatever the fuck you want as well.

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>>55803685
What thinkpad should get for hardcore gaming?

I was planning to get a thinkpad p50s but then yesterday I saw the new Xiaomi Mi Notebook with a i5 and gtx 940mx? Should which one should I get?

A gaming thinkpad or a Mi notebook?

>I'm not just going to use thinkpad or mi notebook for gaming I want to be 3D rendering and editing photos from it as well

>>55804126
>hardcore gaming
this shit is always funny for some reason

>>55804126
iPhone with Pokemon Go

>getting yourself killed in traffic
That's as hardcore as it gets

>>55804148
Whenever someone says that I think dota, lol and tf2

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So apparently the gook at 51nb release the X62 board through some Chinese seller (this is unverified, I just read it and got the link from the other thread)

I'm calling a QC and supply nightmare on the whole project.
What makes it worse is that he's not even bothering to cater to the western markets at this point (you know, the ones that can make him money)

Anyone have any info on how sale of this thing will be handled? What do you think will become of the project? Any news scraped from Chinese forums?

>>55804126
>>>/v/

>>55804193
forgot the supposed link
http://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=1905816197&p=-1

>>55804187
t420 confirmed for hardcore gaming thinkpad

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>>55804069
That's what I figured

The T420/X220 seem like a bit of a drop from the X201/T410, but the following drop into the X230/T430 is large, and especially the drop into the nearly identical X240/X250/X260 and T440/T450/T460 which is huge

Considering the superior cpu of the X220/T420 it's hard to say whether the X201 or the X220/T420 is the 'last good thinkpad,' and it seems after a couple of years of shitting on the X230/T430 even those are now considered for title of 'last good thinkpad,' probably due to both the ability to add in the older, better keyboard and that as the following drops in quality were even greater, relatively speaking they are still closer to the good old ones than the bad new ones.


Like I said, I have an X220 (daily driver,) X201 (linux testing machine / lend it all the time) and T60p (used to be daily driver). Wondering what one I should get next, I like the sound of X60t/X61t as they're cute as fuck, but also the T420 would let me have three hard drives and I'd get to try my hand at the screen mods, and also a T430 for the keyboard mod too as it'd have a better CPU, and finally an X200t/X201t/X220t/X230t to fuck about on a tablet thinkpad.

tl;dr Have: X220, X201, T60p
Thinking of getting: Any tablet thinkpad from X60t to X230t, T420/T520. Would try mods out.

Which to get for fun considering what I already have?

>>55804148
>>55804186
>>55804203

Fuck off I said I'm not going to use it just for gaming

>>55804257
>laptop
>gaming at all
see >>55804203

>>55804257
but you're a hardcore gamer

you need hardcore gaming

>>55804220
what ports are those? I can't quite tell.

>>55804126
Lenovo Y700

Also, not a thinkpad.

>>55804126
>hardcore gaming
lmao

>>55804024
>Was the quality of the T40/T41/T42/T43 and X40/X41 the same as the T60/T61/X60(t)/X61(t) and the T400/T401/X200(t)/X201(t)?

No.

T4x series = no rollcage. Bad chassis design lead to GPU fracturing.

T6x/T400 = base + lid rollcage (apart from T60)

T410 onwards = base rollcage only

>>55804231
>Which to get for fun considering what I already have?
went from an X200T to an X230T and am disappointed. While it's not going to be my main GNU/Linux machine I will still be using it a lot.

You can mod the X230T with an X220 keyboard (requires filing nubs and a modded BIOS) but I'm not motivated since the X230T I have is close to new and I don't have the motivation to unfuck it.

If you're looking for a cheap tablet model to screw around with get the X200T. Best price to performace ratio (dirt cheap on shitbay), IPS panel, last of its kind. Batteries are expensive and hard to source though

>>55804257
>>>/v/

>>55804287
someone mentioned it in a thread but I forgot already

This is why the lack of support for western markets is bullshit

Hello tpg, I kind of want to get a cheap thinkpad to use as a comfy shitposting device and to watch movies on the train and such, and also to use as my first device for learning Linux. However, I'm having a hard time finding one for a good price. I'm in western Europe in the Benelux, any other anons from around here with tips on where I should look? Or should I give up and look for some other cheap machine to put Linux on?

>>55804536
>I'm in western Europe in the Benelux

Any chance you can hit up ebay uk?

>>55804536
I ended up paying like $300 + $80 customs for a T420 from the US on eBay because this third world country a shit, i hope this is not your case.

Somehow it's still worth it for price/performance in comparison to the shit i find at stores over here.

>>55804684
It's a possibility, but from my experience I'm going to get raped by shipping costs. No idea why shipping is so much across the channel, but it's upwards of 30-40 euro sometimes

Is the Thinkpad X1 carbon worth the price?

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>>55801113
sure I dont see why not

T430s is best thinkpad

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I added some info to the pastebin. new link:
http://pastebin.com/N9BrntXb

added this info:

Dolby audio driver for Thinkpads (greatly increases sound volume):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dolby-home-theater-for-your-thinkpad.657971/
Dolby x86 (32 bit) Drivers Mirror (110.62MB):
http://www.mediafire.com/?5l0077dnm6c81s4
Dolby x64 (64 bit) Drivers Mirror (111.57MB):
http://www.mediafire.com/?v7adioyl8db7slb

>>55804004
I cycle all three

>>55796066
I am going to try again, different time, different people after all

>>55805076
>Dolby audio driver for Thinkpads (greatly increases sound volume)

>essentially custom EQ settings
>Windows

wew, fuck you vapefag

>>55805174
>being this edgy before dinner

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>>55805076
>buy a ton of Think branded junk

Reminds me of someone...

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>>55805298
>>55805174

>When your Thinkpad setup is too hot for /tpg/

Yesterday I posted here that my X220 performs worse when it's plugged in than when it's running on the battery.

Turns out that I'm a retard who can't read because on the Thinkwiki it says that the CPU gets throttled when plugged in with the default 65W AC adapter.

>The CPU speed will be throttled back to 800MHz if the machine is run on the 65W AC adapter with no battery installed. To avoid this throttling
>run on a 90W AC adapter, or
>install a battery pack.

Is there no way to prevent it from throttling the CPU besides getting an adapter with a higher wattage or having a battery in my machine?

>>55806057
>left handed
WHAT A FAGGOT

>>55806057
>vape
loooooooool

>>55802399
will it throttle if it has a batttery in it though?
I know that the x220 will throttle if there's no battery and only a 60 watt adapter, but runs full speed if it's on a 90 watt without a batt.
I thought the w520 would be the same.

>>55806225
W520 has a quad core + dedicated GPU though

>>55806344
the dgpu wont be used much, and neither will the cpu
I'm just running windows server for active directory and some other VMs

>>55806175
>Is there no way to prevent it from throttling the CPU besides getting an adapter with a higher wattage or having a battery in my machine?
exactly, there is no way, but if you are worried about your battery just set charge treshold to 40%-60% and be done with it

I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a x200 for $70.

just for general shitposting and coding

good deal? or should I keep hunting?

>>55806519
I think I have a dead battery lying around here somewhere.
If I were to keep that one in my machine, will it still throttle?

>>55806057
is that screen mirrored or dual screen? what resolution is supported on the external? assuming it's displayport (or is it vga)?

>>55806557
keep hunting

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>>55804388
Thoughts on the X200t vs X201t?

If they're all the same build except for touchpad, then are the cpus in the X201t worth it over the X200t cpus?

Are there actually any other differences between them?

>>55806663
201t has ips

>>55806698
so does the X200T

>>55804231
What?
I thought it went downhill with x230 then gradually get better again since x240?

>>55806626
if it's not totaly dead it should work, but here you are supposed to test it and write the result if it works or not.. I would but I don't have dead battery yet so it's up to you

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Anyone interested in a list of games that work well on the T420?
I'm working on one right now.

>>55806748
>ally get better again since x240?
no

I am kind of poor and need a laptop.

Found a X200 and a T60 used.

The x200 has 150gb of space, no idea how much RAM it has.

On the T60 theres more info: 80gb of space, 2gb of ram, Core 2 Duo processor

Now I am from Mexico so prices are, obviously, higher, so doing the conversions the T60 is around 68 dollars and the x200 is around 80 dollars.

So, considering I plan on installing some distro, and using it to program, open pdfs, use the internet and study, can anybody with experience on laptops just advice me on which one is the better option?

>>55806663
>x201t
+better cpu, unless you got the celery model
-runs hotter
-worse battery life
-+has trackpad
>x200t
+cost less
+runs cooler
+better battery life
-might be too weak running anything other than shitposting or chinese cartoon watchin

>>55806789
there isn't a huge difference. for those tasks either one will be good really.

>>55806822
does the x200t really run cooler than the x201t?
the x201t already has a shitty ulv cpu that ran cool in the one I had.

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>seller still doesn't send the X220t I bought today
What you did to cope with waiting anxiety /g/?

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>>55806777
Wat

All I have to do is google 'intel hd 3000 games' or '[videogame] intel hd 3000 benchmarks'

You know that thinkpads don't have special insides right? We like them for their build and keyboard and closing latch and stuff, not particularly for their cpus


I don't get why you'd make a list like this, it's pointless


>>55806748
lel no


>>55806822
>>55806867
>>55806698
>>55806705
I'll look into temps and screens and real world cpu difference in performance with shit i'd use etc

Still might want an X60t/X61t in a year or two, those things are hella cute

>>55806946
It's for the NVS gpu, I'm not happy with the benchmarks I've found online. Notebookcheck has a good list but they're extremely vague with their details.

>>55806645
Dual screen, dvi (they do make display port docks though), supports at least 1080p

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IBMfags will defend this. Try opening up an IBM ThinkPad without the tape across the top becoming warped

>>55807183
Try opening up an apple product. period.

>>55807420
>Apple bullshit justificies IBM bullshit

>>55807183
what's wrong with those?
the bottom gaps are so you can take the palm rest off easily, and the top bar is for something (can't tell from the pic)
>>55807420
6 or 8 screws on the bottom then the whole bottom comes off.
it's that simple.

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>>55803685
>mfw since i bought a t420 i keep getting ads of prettier, lighter, more convenient laptops all over the internet

thinkpads were a mistake

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Hey TPG, local store is going out of business, and they seem to have a good couple units available. I saw a T42, T400, 2x x200 units, and apparently they have a few T420s with i5's, which is what I'm most looking for.

Just wondering if any of those aside from the T420 are worth it? I believe they're all 75$, basically complete units.

>>55807816
>i keep getting ads
i haven't seen an ad since 2010

What's Linux Sandy Bridge GPU driver support like these days?

If I were to get an X220 and throw Ubuntu on there, would I run into any issues playing videos via mpv both on the laptop and on an external television?

>>55807884
all of intel (at least modern) linux drivers are open source and they are all just as good as the windows ones.
even when i tried linux on my imac with haswell iris pro I had no issues with the gpu drivers.

>>55807884
Better than ever. My T420 I watch movies and shit all the time.

>>55807816
>ads

kek

>>55807913
>>55807845
>criticism of memepads go way over your head because you're too baffled that someone is not enough of a leech to block all ads

>>55807930
>either works in the ad industry, thinks he's going to make it big as a "youtuber" or "streamer", or is just a brainwashed idiot

keep watching those ads anon, you fucking retard

>>55807930
>leech
i like this meme

>>55807816
hey man they are not for everyone and if you did it right you didnt pay too much, so find that t420 a new loving home.
>sell it and buy what you like memester

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>>55807948

>>55807837
The usefulness of something older than a *20 series is limited at best. There's a pretty big gap in performance between Sandy Bridge and previous generations, especially Core 2. Nehalem might still be alright, but ehhh.

>>55807948
do you actually think you're entitled to all that free shit the internet provides you? people should just provide it for free with their free time out of the kindness of their heart? you fucking nigger

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>>55807991
yeah that will never work

>>55808052
[personal appealing intensifies]

Not everything can work with their nigger business model broster. :^)

>>55807837
If you can find a use for lower powered devices than you can go for it

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>>55808076
>the epitome of a good man

why can't i be as great as him

>>55808085
>>55807990
My gma might, but lack of a webcam hinders her Skyping...

The T420s are what I'm most after. If these units I've pictured aren't bought, they're basically being trashed in 2 days.

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>>55807930
>liking ads
dude do you like watching ads like really forreal i think you trollin

>>55807991
I'm confused

I just block advertisements. I pay for Youtube Red, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Go, Play Music, etc because I value convenience and time over a few bucks a month

Where do pop up advertisements, banner ads, and auto-play commercials fit into your narrative?

Are the red dots in the thinkpad logo supposed to light up in the w520? Neither the palmrest or lid logo have worked if so since I got the laptop and I'd like some kind of indicator that the laptop is on when the lid is closed.

>>55808125
no he just thinks he's obligated to watch them.

>>55808130
>Youtube Red
how is that shit anon?

>>55808173
You get it free if you subscribe to Play Music, I wouldn't pay for it if it didn't personally. None of the original content appeals to me (yet). But not having to dick with ad blockers for Youtube is nice (in the past they were always finnicky, or Google would make you stare at a black screen for 15 seconds before playing the video)

It also enables background playback of youtube videos on mobile which is nice.

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>>55808156
oh what, poor guy

>>55808199
>Background playback of Youtube Videos

That just seems like a shitty workaround for Play Music not having as large of a selection as Spotify or Apple Music

>fall for the Thinkpad meme and get an x220
>put Ubuntu on it and install mpv
>it plays my 10 bit 1080p chinese cartoons like a champ

Holy shit, thank you so much for making me fall for this meme.

>>55808224
I'm pretty confident Play Music, Apple Music, and Spotify have nearly identical libraries. I used Spotify for a long time before switching.. I really just use it to listen to new edm singles that aren't on streaming services yet, also it's nice to multitask (check texts etc without pausing)

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>>55808085
The tablets make amazing readers for degenerate levels of comfy.

>>55808346
fuck i bet that's comfy

i'm pretty comfy shitposting from bed with muh t420 but damn

do I need two thinkpads?

>>55808373
your better off just getting a normal tablet for bed use.
thinkpads are too heavy, have terrible touch screens, and there isn't really a good os for touch that you can run on one.

>>55808346
Why not just buy a tablet tho

>>55804289
hey Im thinking of getting the Y700 but I've heard people voice issues about the display not working. is the laptop good enough to be worth the risk?

>>55808424
>bigger screen
>wacom
That's really it. Windows with tablet controls is ass but fuck if you don't have the most cyberpunk fucking pornograph this side of y2k.

>>55808373
No, it's not comfy at all. You have to work the pen with your feet if you want to hold it and fap at the same time and it will burn your leg.

>>55808199
>(in the past they were always finnicky, or Google would make you stare at a black screen for 15 seconds before playing the video)
That has literally never happened to me.

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Fuck it just gonna get this one in the hope it's built better than X230. (X220 or 201 is too old).

i5 4300U, 8GB, 180GB SSD, 768p IPS, 3+3 cells
$540, too much?

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/g/ is off topic shitposting anyways

I'm asking this here sinceI am posting from a thinkpad right now, and because you guys buy second hand shit all the time so you should be able to relate more than anything

would you guys consider it right to complain over an item being sent to you in outright filthy condition? I just spent over an hour cleaning this bad boy, and that kind of bothers me. The guy sent it to me in full working condition and it had all the extra goodies, but it was fucking coated with actual filth, not just dust.
I don't understand how anyone who has ever had a job or worked with products before could consider that acceptable.

>>55808527
What are you going to use it for?

>>55808580
College (will follow CS if nothing changes).
And shitposting, light media. The normal stuff.

>>55808555
was it gross looking in the picture? or was it clean?
if it was gross then I'd maybe add that to the ebay review, but I don't think you'd get anything out of complaining about it.

X201 or X220?

>>55808604
it wasn't gross looking, but it wasn't really clean either

I mean its not like I'm gonna ruin the guys rep or anything like that, but I'm considering reviewing it on feedback and mentioning it

I understand old stuff is gonna be dusty and shit, but actual filth - what the fugg man
I'm talking gunk here, not dust, stuff like you find under a chinese kitchen stove

I had to go rinse my face because my eyes and throat itch now after cleaning it
i guess i won't do anything. I've sold shit before myself but I cleaned it up and made it immaculate, how can anybody not understand basic etiquette/manners

>>55808632
X220

What are you?
Poor?

>>55808604
not true at all
if you've sold a laptop for $200 accepting a return on it can easily cost around $60
10% final value fee that you don't get back - $20
3% paypal fee - $6
the return shipping you're forced to pay - $15ish
add on another $23 for the fact that you're likely going to be selling it again once it's back in your hands and most sellers will usually just give you $20-30 to shut you up and get it solved fast

i've had this pulled on me repeatedly selling laptops for really petty reasons like "it's missing 3 screws," ebay will side with the buyer literally every time and they know it
it's why i've stopped using ebay, but if you feel like you deserve money back for whatever reason you'll likely get it because it's easier than arguing with you for a week and then having ebay take money out of your account

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>>55808691
X220 is for poor people too, anon.

>>55806777
checked and also I am interested in this
check fps for CSGO if you would sir

>>55804287
Looks like usb, mini dp, hdmi, ethernet, and sd.

>>55806175
Get an adapter. If it uses more power than the adapter can supply, it'll draw on battery power. One of the macbook pros did the same thing without the option to buy a more powerful adapter.

>>55808113
>trashed
Like literally thrown in the trash? Maybe make an offer for all of them, or maybe offer to help move their stuff out of the store in exchange for the stuff they're throwing out, if you're a NEET like the majority of posters here.

>>55808527
>>55808592
That one is the one that people hate especially, due to the lack of actual buttons above the touchpad. The build quality supposedly degrades as time goes by, too.
Pretty expensive, too. I would recommend the x260 at $200 more if the corporate discount in the OP was still working.

>>55808733
20 fps in 1366x768 and low settings upscaled to the 1600x900 screen here with the integrated hd3000.

So unplayable imo.

>>55808757
>due to the lack of actual buttons above the touchpad.
Don't really mind that
>The build quality supposedly degrades as time goes by, too.
Huh, I thought I read it was at worst with X230, then gets better again starting with X240.
I saw a lot of complaints about the X230 too.

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Pardon me. Could one of you /tpg/ guys tell me if this battery will work with a t420? I got it cleaning up shop for a cisco rep.

>>55808776
>Don't really mind that
you will once you try out the trackpoint.

I'm using an X220, and while I like it, my only complaint is that I want something that runs cooler. So I wouldn't go earlier than that.

>>55808805
>IBM
pretty doubful

>>55808850
The X250 is too expensive though, and X230 has more build issues.

If it's just the trackpoint then it probably won't be an issue. I never use that and I have (relatively) small hands.

I am woried about heat and battery though.

>>55808756
Like literally electronic recycled. Store got bought out, they close in 2 days, Sat 4pm EDT. Damn shame, there's tons of other sick shit in there, like amps, stereo equipment in general, tons of PC parts, AGP/PCI cards, DDR RAM; all sorts of nuts stuff.

Also very on the fence atm about the pc, just cause... desu DOSBox and SCUMMVM are good enough for me, and I Hate bringing more stuff home.

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>>55808928
Sorry, meant to reply to another thread regarding the PC.

>>55808346
>tfw custom setup on my X200T GNU/Linux to map buttons the four screen buttons for zooming and page flipping when reading gooktoons
I know this level of comfy

>>55808805
After careful decoding of the model number, it looks like it's meant for a T510. Not sure if I'd trust a generic battery anyway.

>>55807837
Make sure you check if there are any other business laptops there too.

>>55808928
Tell them you'll give more than the recycler? Do they just pay by weight for most of this stuff?

>>55808986
If it'll fit a T510, it'll fit a T420. They use the same battery.

>>55808986
Adding to this, they'll probably take your offer more seriously if you buy one at their current asking price.

>>55804193
where you get those magnetic wall holders?

Is there a good depot to source parts from? Or just scrounge eBay/Amazon etc.

>>55806777
Check Dota 2 and Grand Theft Autos please?

>>55809937
I can 100% tell you that gta 5 wont run
but gta 4 should if you have nvs. if you don't then maybe at low resoltuion and minimum settings.

>>55809937
>>55809960
do I need to buy a mouse to play these games?

Just from the two of these which one would you choose?
>X1 carbon 4th (unupgradeable)
>t460s (bad battery, dim screen, possibly faulty keyboard)

>>55810344
oh my kek

>got my new t420 1600x900 screen
>finally free of the 768p hell
>1600x900 is awesome but looks like shit
>autistically calibrating the colors of the new screen for two hours
>it looks better now but the viewing angles are still shit
And of course just now i realized that you can use the X1 carbon panel for better viewing angles.

/blog

I have a T520 for everyday use, the only games I play on it are CRPGs

is it possible to get a TP with a decent GPU?

>>55811252
eGPU

>>55811252
Yes. Look at W series.

>>55806777
Are you sure you're using the nvs and not the intel hd? Those don't look correct from my own experience.

>>55807930
>blame ad block, not a faulty system
If ads are block able, the market should adapt, not the user.

>>55808555
You can mention it was dirty, but you shouldn't subtract a star for it. It you bought a tv that work, and you got that tv and it worked, arrived on time, shipped early, leave a good review.

My 3xxx Helix trackpad sometimes stops working if I use the clit mouse, and I have to disconnect then reconnect the screen.
Can I fix it by somehow making usage of the clit mouse not disable the trackpad temporarily, perhaps fixing the permanent disabling bug too?

>>55804536
Go on ebay.ie (prices show up in euros) and search with item location in European Union.

You're welcome.

>>55804231
>it seems after a couple of years of shitting on the X230/T430 even those are now considered for title of 'last good thinkpad,' probably due to both the ability to add in the older, better keyboard
This and that other than having newer hardware, USB3 and a much better integrated GPU, the laptops are pretty much exactly the fucking same. So it's a literal hard upgrade once you swap in the older keyboard.

>>55804388
You can just put in the X220T palmrest, then you don't have to fuck with filing no nubs

>>55808695
what site do you use to sell things on?

I'm looking to buy a cheap portable laptop with above average battery to throw Linux on and use for programming, general web use, and maybe some extremely light games such as DF. I'm looking at a X201 3626F2U with an i5-540m & 4 gigs of ram. Would this thing serve my purpose or should I look for something else?

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>>55810344
>a mouse
No, you need to buy THE mouse.

Is 1600x900 resolution enough to work on a word document with a PDF open next to it? That's basically all I'm gonna be doing with a thinkpad.

I changed my desktop resolution to that and tried it but since it's a 24 inch monitor I don't think it's representative.

>>55808733
You'll want at least a T430 for CS GO, preferably with the Nvidia NVS

>>55808805
It will work but that is definitely a chink battery. Capacity will drop fairly quickly, if it has not already done so.

>>55809960
I have heard someone say even GTA V runs playably with an NVS (though it may have been in respect to T430 not T420)

>>55806979
Are you using the performance drivers? It's supposed to make a big difference.

>>55811789
For me it is.

In fact that was one of the reasons for me to get a t420 instead of the x220.

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>>55803685
NEVER FORGET

>>55803685
Any thoughts on E450 guys?
Been using it with Arch and haven't had anything but a great experience as far as fan noise, heating, performance (I've run some brute force C++ programs that I wrote for work and obviously it's no desktop, but it eventually finishes).
Did I buy a memepad?

>>55811834
That's what I'm thinking too. I have a windows tablet with x220 resolution and it definitely isn't enough. I'm just trying to determine if it's worth spending (a lot) more on a 1080p laptop.

>>55811855
not a real thinkpad™

>>55811855
it was like $350-400 new

>>55811860
if you get a 1080p laptop its most likely going to use scaling anyways to make things nicely readable.
pretty much anything below 15" is too small for 1080p un scaled, and anything bigger is fuck hueg. Plus even at 15" 1080p is a bit small.

>>55811863
That's what I figured since it was so cheap, but how so? No mechanical keyboard?

>>55811881
none have mechanical keyboards, they just have nice keyboard
but the E series (any anything other than x t and w) are made of like all plastic, and other cheap materials instead of magnesium™, carbon fiber™, and military grade plastic™®©

>>55811880
fair enough, thanks.

Next question, bit of an obscure one: anyone here use Autodesk Revit on their thinkpad? How is it?

>>55811897
well I'm pretty careful with it.
Okay, I guess I'll try not to walk into an EMP blast with it.

>>55811820
T430 with NVS here, I can get 70FPS in battlefield 3 so CS GO should be fine, don't own it though

Niggas underestimate the NVS, it's about midway in performance between the W530's Quadro K2000M and the Intel HD 4000

>>55811837
What model is this from?

It hurts my eyes ;_;

>>55811913
even hd 4000 gets like 20 fps in csgo now.
when before even hd 3000 could run the game at 90fps
whatever they did to it made it run like shit.
>>55811920
1st gen x1 carbon if I remember right.

>>55811913
What's your processor? Also, any word on GTA V?

>>55811755
Bump

>>55811913
>Niggas underestimate the NVS
This. I downloaded the Dragon's Dogma leak back when and played in default resolution with medium-ish settings and felt no drops until bitterblack.

>>55811923
Holy fucking shitballs, that's horrific.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2138145/ultrabooks/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-review-slightly-overdone-but-plenty-tasty.html

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>>55811931
i5 3520m, don't have GTAV either, and I don't have the laptop anymore unfortunately (sold it for an X230) sorry m8

I needed a laptop for class and playing Doom megawads was enough to satisfy my rare gayming need so

>>55811955
Honestly it's a super idea if you could totally customize it for yourself and it didn't replace the function row

Then you could have dedicated buttons for whatever the fuck you can possibly imagine

Unfortunately as I recall it was locked down to like 2 or 3 presets or whatever, if you could add custom fuctions with custom icons it would be fuckin dope

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>>55811957
Thanks anyway.

I'm asking because I bought a T430 with NVS (i7) and I wanted to see what people say.

For anyone thinking this, yes, it's house fire tier, I know. You should see the temps I get on my T61 (pic related).

>>55811968
>>55811920
>1st gen x1 carbon if I remember right.
Wrong, that horrifying thing is a second gen X1C. First generation just had a normal 6-row keyboard like the *30 and newer series.

>>55811923
>hd 3000 could run csgo at 90fps
wut

it runs like utter shit on my i5 2520m with hd3000

>>55811957
Whoops, meant i5-3520

>>55811975
Probably going to be cooler than an X220/X230 still. Doesn't even have a GPU and that thing gets hot. If it weren't for the much nicer screen I would go back in time and tell myself to keep the T430 (it really isn't that big, it just seems huge once you have an X230)

>>55811990
now, It used to run great on hd 3000

>>55811990
Reading comprehension nigga. He said it used to, back when it came out, but after these years of updates it runs slower and slower until now when it runs like ass.

>>55811998
>>55812004
s-sorry

>>55811993
>Whoops, meant i5-3520
Fucking shit I said the same thing. I meant i5-3320. Fuck.

F.lux works really well. I'm really drowsy and cant think straight. Highly recommend it.

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>>55811913
The NVS's bad rep comes from the T420, where the NVS 4200M truly was hardly better than the HD 3000 (like 10% or some shit)

On the T430 however, the NVS 5400M is almost 50% faster than the HD 4000 rather than 10%

>>55811993
Sometimes I wonder precisely that, why do people talk about T4xx as they're such big and heavy machines. I understand that the X series are smaller, but the T4xx are comfy.

I just hope I don't get screwed up, I'm really pumped for my T430!

>>55812062
Honestly the T series is totally fine, even smaller than the average laptop. The X series is just a lot lighter, and it makes it look like a dinosaur in comparison.

But, if you've never had an X series, you'll be totally fine with it and even love it (like me, since I used to lug around a 17 incher every day to class, never again)

>>55812062
I like my T420, i'm allergic to 15" or higher laptops though.

>>55812060
>t420's nvs is 10% better than the sandy bridge intel hd
I don't believe it. I use to play M&B Warband on my t420. There was a huge difference between the two. I tried both since the nvs card wasn't used until I set it to be in nvidia settings.

>>55812125
What I mean is the difference between NVS 5400M and HD 4000 is bigger than the difference between the NVS 4200M and HD 3000

>>55812129
>>55812060
>>55811931

They say the NVS 5400M is equivalent to a GT 630M if you want to look up game benchmarks

>>55812060
I wouldnt rely on passmark for that conclusion. Going by G3D mark it implies the Quadro 2000M and Quadro K2000M are hardly any different when that's bullshit

>>55811755
Bumping again

Does Optimus turn off the GPU entirely? For example will an NVS'd T430 that's using Intel HD 4000 all the time have the same battery life as a T430 without the NVS?

>>55811755
Just grab a x220. I recently played some Dort since I didn't need the 32 libs anymore. Ran fine. I'm on an x220t.

>>55812266
Shit I was thinking you'd say that. I'm currently looking for some on Amazon and eBay, but they're not as cheap as I'd like them to be. Are there any other solid ways to find x220's? The buyers guide didn't help me out much.

>>55812145
yeah but isn't the nvs thermi?

>>55810767
Bump

>>55812338
The one that can be easily upgraded.

An unupgradeable laptop would be a big no for me.

T420 has a toasted board. I'm in the Philippines. Is it worth getting the board replaced, or should I just pick up another unit?

>>55812306
x200 then if you want the bare minimum of everything. They're really nice.
Batteries could be harder to come by though.

>>55804536
Just got a t420s for ~180 euro's form ebay.co.uk and using an autobidder.

>>55812428
Post the listing.

>>55812386
Can you not think for yourself? Christ alive...

>Is A cheaper than B
> Yes
Go for A
>No
Go for B

>>55811820
my laptop has an i7 3720qm and a gt 650m and it struggles to play at 1280x800.
maybe if you are fine with 20 fps without shadows.

>>55812449
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420s-4173-A48-I-Core-i5-2540M-2-60GHz-4GB-RAM-160GB-SSD-DVD-RW-/322196648767?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=x1y%252F24jgYxh6WeY3ft3p5zISq3g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

>>55812465

Thank you for your wholly insipid input

>>55812477
>No photos of it working
Did you ask if there is no BIOS password?

>>55812514
Nope. If he didn't list it, I'd just send it back. Most listings suck and I found this pretty much at the last minute. Luckily, no bios password.
The pics were actually incorrect, there was a small crack on the right hand corner. It also didn't have an original charger. He refunded me 15,- so no problem.

>>55812534
Good to know it all ended well for you, honestly!

>>55812534
Do you mind if I ask you what sniper you used? I'm trying to find a reliable one.

>>55812618
I'd like to know too.

>>55812618
>>55812625
I'm by no means an experienced bidder, this was the first time I used one. I used the gixen desktop version. I did change my ebay password afterwards, because who knows what that thing is actually sending it to. It did work perfectly though.

>>55812647
I'm guessing a password change is the best thing to do afterwards

>>55812618
>>55812625
>>55812647
What's the point in using this kind of thing? I won an auction fair and square by setting a maximum bid amount, easy as pie.

Hey R61 guy here.
Someone here recommended a memory upgrade to 8GB.
Why can I get 2 hynix modules of 2GB for 18€; and 2 of 4Gb cost me 130€. Am I missing something? Btw. I use xubuntu and basic stuff. Some light gaming for the kids (mc most).

Also , where should I look for nv cards for that model? Whats the best one it will hold?

>>55812765
It reacts faster then people and can automate a bunch of auction bids. It helps get a final bid in just above everyone else instead of a last minute guess and be ahead 20 bucks.

>>55812815
I can't see the advantage over setting a maximum bid. It does literally the same thing.

>>55812970
I'm debating that too. I'd obviously grab Gixen if it would help me get the thinkpad but I don't know if it actually will.

>>55812970
It keeps the bid low by picking it up at the end. If you want to rely on the max bid, you might as well lurk around for Buy Now.

>>55812970
Doesn't max bid do it instantly when the price goes up?

>>55812794
You'll be fine with 4gb.

What does /tpg/ think of the R400?

Currently trying to haggle the price of a Thinkpad on eBay down. Wish me luck fellas

>>55803685
Hey guys, so i am rather new to Thinkpads, never had one, nor do i know a lot about them.

I do mostly web development, and will be using my device to do webdev things, and maybe some systems programming.


That being said, all i really need it for is commandline stuff (I use Vim) and maybe a game of Dwarf Fortress during down times at the office.

Do you think i should buy used, or just go full out and buy new?

Also, recommend any models?

>>55813440
decent machine, but try and get a t400

>>55813753
is your work going to pay for your machine? buy new then

>>55813770
Nope, the machine is for work, and personal use so my company isn't going to pay for anything.

I also do freelance on the side to make some extra money, so it will be used for that as well.

>>55813130
>>>55812794
>You'll be fine with 4gb.
Mewsi bewkoep

>>55813753
>Also, recommend any models?
W701DS - accept no substitutes

>>55813803
?

>>55813000
The "picking it up at the end" is fooling yourself, if someone is interested, they will do the same as I did and set a maximum bid, rendering your sniping useless, as the value will escalate.

>>55812976
It will not help.

>>55813003
Maximum bid increments automatically as soon as someone outbids you. It increments the minimum amount possible up to your maximum bid.

>>55814193
Sniping uses a computer to place your bid at the last second, taking everyone by surprise since people like you can't react.
If you know what you want to pay and what your item is worth, you can mop up auctions effectively and save money.

>>55814325
not this guy >>55814193 but I don't see how setting a sniper with a limit of $150 would be different than just setting your max bid to $150.

>>55814325
That is an illusion, is what I'm saying. If I set a maximum bid that is greater than your sniping value, I will still win. You are only fooling yourself for not messing around with the item value until the last moment, thus atracting more people thinking that will go for peanuts.

>>55814385
Thank you, I knew I couldn't be the only one.

And also, you do realize that you have to give your ebay credentials to god knows who, right? I find this laughable when people boast about using Common Sense in antivirus threads. Jesus.

>>55813753
>new to Thinkpads
Refurbished ThinkPads are pretty cheap while having great build quality, extendability and keyboard. They are also the last bastion of quality clit mouses.

>linux webdev
>used or new
For terminal and browser? Used models will be more than enough. I run X230 for professional web development and desktop replacement. The 12" 1366x768 display could be better but I just dock both at office and home if I'm doing any serious work.

>models?
X230, T430, W530 for Ivy Bridge generation. They have 12", 14" and 15" display respectively but very similar specs otherwise. T and W models are physically larger but offer optional Nvidia GPU, larger resolution displays and socketable CPU.

You could also look into X220, T420 and W520 for a generation older with the classic keyboard. They run a bit hotter too. The old keyboard layout is better but there little to no difference in typing experience. Personally I prefer X230 keyboard feel over the one I had on X201.

I prefer the X-series due to its small size.

>>55814385
>>55814400
I'd vouch for it but it would be pointless on 4chan.

Ideally, you don't have to play cat and mouse with a bunch of people and swoop in at the last second with what you'd like to pay instead of everyone trying to one-up everyone inch by inch.

There are lots of trusted auction snipers, not everyone downloads the first program they find on google. Also not every auction is eBay, they're used everywhere.

Just outfitted a old T430S with 850 evo and 8gb. Goddamn this keyboard may acutally make me be compelled to only get lenovos from now on.

Gonna start eyeing the P50

How much cooler does the X230 run compared to X220?

>>55815045
A few degrees. The X230 cooler also fits in the X220. Source: running an X230 cooler in my X220 right now.

>>55798983
>same
thanks kind anon!

>>55806777
have you tried to mod the GeForce driver to make it recognize your card?

>>55813753
t420 and 220x are recommended based on price/performance ratio. But be prepared to repaste the CPU, replace/upgrade RAM, and swap the HDD for an SSD. Those upgrades can cost as much as the laptop itself unless you have parts laying around.

How difficult would it be to set up eGPU with the x220 under linux?

hi, anyone of you have tried the latitude e5000 keyboard and trackpad? is it good or it sucks for programming?

>>55816729

i meant trakpoint

Hello hello, completely new to laptops in general, I see no reason to go much further than the specs of a T420 for college (we're not doing much that could be demanding, at most some eclipse to do java), so, is that right?

As well, I'll probably want to put linux (possibly keeping a windows boot) on it. How can you check if there's a bios password?

>>55816876
If you can access the BIOS then there's no password. If you can't access it and it requires a password, then there's a password.

Which ThinkPad has the most meme value?

>>55806057
Nice mouth fedora.

>>55817156
It's called an "atheist flute".

t. vaper

>>55817137
A t420 memepad with a weebboard

Is there a difference in thermal pastes or should I just buy whatever?

All I know is that the silver stuff is conductive and the ceramic stuff is not.

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I got a 2010 T400 with fingerprint and all that Jazz, just needs a new HDD and a power cable. Did I get memed on? How is the T400?

>>55803703
does anyone wanna buy my x201

>>55817836
Not enough to lose sleep over.

>>55818120
>doesn't mention price
>doesn't mention specs
Nah, you did fine.

>>55818165
How much?

>>55818120
You are now aware of that the bezel of the T400 is thicker on the left than it is on the right.

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rate my thinkpad edge

>>55818391
Give it back, Pedro.

>>55818222
I got it for free, Intel Pentium and 2gb RAM.

>>55818286
Fuck. Oh well. Still get memed on?

>>55818590
Free laptop is always the perfect price. SSDs are cheap as hell, get one for it.

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What's /g/s favourite Flashlight app for the Thinkpad? On iPad I used an App simply called 'Flashlight', I don't want to miss this feature when I finally break free out of the dark into the light of GNU/Linux.

>>55818767
What? just press Fn+PgUp

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>>55818473

>>55818806
He's trying to be funny, just ignore it..

>>55817836
arctic cooling mx4

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>>55819554
>cools the same as mayonaise

Can I put an aftermarket nvidia card in my r61? The stock intel x3100 is a bit meh....

>>55819743
no
only some of the W series have socket gpus

>tfw you didn't fall for the memepad
>tfw you got a HP Probook 6470b with 8gb RAM and 128GB SSD for less money and effort than upgrading a memepad
>tfw its got a better screen too

My buddy bought a memepad and tried getting me to do the same. He got his latptop for $125 cheaper but had to spend $100 on a new SSD, $30 on another stick of RAM, and $10 on thermal paste.

>>55819797
Why are HP users always so adversarial to the Thinkpad cult? Dell users are friendly folk, why can't you be more like them?

>>55819797
>upgrading a memepad
>effort
what

>>55820065
to be fair on some hp's you pop off one large tool free door on the bottom to get access to everything

cool feature

Found a t420s with 8GB RAM and a 128GB SSD for 215USD. Worth it?

>>55820135
kek

Would it be worth it to buy a 2.26ghz Thinkpad T400 for 120 dollars (canuck bucks)?

>>55820309
Bumping

>>55820309
That's getting close to t410 prices, but it seems like the price plateaus for any usable thinkpads at around 100 americabux.

>>55820135
It requires one tool -- the owner :^)

>>55820250
yes

>>55820517
thanks anon
>>55820528
this one is around 90 americabux after some conversion. i'm pretty fine with a core 2 duo though, i mean, i've been using mainly a pentium m computer as a laptop for quite some time now

>>55820564
That's a solid price. I'd say go for it, especially if you're coming off a Pentium M.

>>55819762
thanks. low settings minecraft it is then....

>>55820744
Wiki says the Thinkpad Advanced Dock supports the R61, so you could use that with an eGPU to get vastly improved performance. You could also try finding a motherboard with the NVS 140m and swapping it in, but that card is suicidal housefire tier and won't perform nearly as well as the Advanced Dock solution would.

>>55820822
>Wiki says the Thinkpad Advanced Dock supports the R61, so you could use that with an eGPU to get vastly improved performance. You could also try finding a motherboard with the NVS 140m and swapping it in, but that card is suicidal housefire tier and won't perform nearly as well as the Advanced Dock solution would.

By the time you spend all that money on trying to get a faster GPU, you would have spent enough money to buy a laptop with a faster GPU

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eGPU goodness. Currently playing Alien Isolation fully maxed out with 90 fps.

t430 worth it over t420 for better battery life?

>>55820564
extra 60 bucks buys you a t420

>>55820875
The Advanced Dock paired with a Penryn Core 2 Duo Thinkpad smokes even the W520 for graphical performance. Old laptop GPUs are no match for newer desktop ones and CPU isn't important enough that the difference matters in most cases.

>>55820822
meh... got the r61 for free. Just ordered 4GB kinston and that 'll be it.

When the next laptop fails I'll buy a t420 with the nv onboard

thanks anyhoo....

>>55820958
>downsides
>you're stuck with using a 7 year old laptop

>>55821021
>stuck with
This is a bad thing? Thinkpads have only gotten worse over time, especially from the 60/61 generation to the 20s/30s.

Can you over clock the CPU on x220

>>55820887
What did you buy to make that work?
What GPU is that ?

>>55821208
no
you can't oc on any laptop except for some of the new turbo gaymen laptops.
>>55820889
battery life is almost identical between sandy and ivy bridge

>>55821234
An pci-e to expresscard adapter (EXP GDC)
A gtx 960
An external power supply (in this case, an ATX PSU, but it could be something with less power, it's only there to power the card)
And a bit of fiddling to make it work correctly.

>>55820889
Laptopmag says the t430 gets an extra 3 hours of battery life on a 9cell

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Working on a friends Edge e330 (it's shit, I know)
Just replaced keyboard and replaced windows 10 with windows 7, this is showing up.
Person I'm doing this for is PC illiterate enough that they'd blame me for this crap when I've had nothing to do with it.
Anybody know why this might be happening and what I can do about it?
Tried firmware update on battery, dindu nuffin.
Cheers guys

>>55821431
The battery is old.

>>55821431
How can it be old when the person has almost never run the laptop without a power cable plugged in? It boggles my mind

>>55821516
Because if you run with the power cable plugged in the battery will always lightly run and then charge again

>>55821544
Well fuck, I guess I'll have to break the bad news to them.
How do I tell them "your battery is fucked but it's not my fault" when this issue wasn't showing up before I worked on it?

>>55821581
come up with some bullshit that it's just saying that because of windows 10

Fuck the X220T just came in the mail and it looks hideous for a tablet and the screen slides around a lot in tablet mode, what the fuck.

Is the X220 any better?

New thread:
>>55821662

>>55821604
Did you not do any research before buying it?

>>55821678
Yeah but I didn't expect it to look this ugly. Not to mention the battery life is 3.5 hours!

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>>55808262
Play Music has almost none of my favorite songs on it. Then again I wouldn't have discovered any of these if it weren't for Spotify in the first place.

How is your battery life on your thinkpads?

I have a T520 and the most battery life I've ever had was around 4 hours, I'm not sure if that bad or pretty decent.