/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>55807655
Good and cheap 7.1 headphones?

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>>55807675
>7.1

>>55807675
no such thing, dont waste your money on those gimmick headphones.
The speakers in the headphone are too close to make any difference, it sounds more like a DSP effect than 'surround sound'

Buy a pair of good quality headphones OR a proper 5.1 / 7.1 setup.

>>55807675
Listen to >>55808064
Don't be a tool who got a Kraken for the 7.1 meme.
If you absolutely want "7.1", you should consider getting yourself one of those Creative sound card (DAC) which will do virtual 7.1.
It does work for those in-ear earbuds, but I think you should just get a good set of headphones instead.

what are some good earbuds under $50?
Should i get the yuin pk2?

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AKG K702, Philips Fidelio X2, Hifiman HE400S (I've , MDR-1R or something else? Thanks /g/oyim.

>Budget
>Location
US

>Source
Yulong U100 headphone desktop amp/dac

>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized

>Open or closed
either is fine

>Comfort level
no preference

>Preferred tonal balance
*forward mids and a decent amount of bass (I usually use speakers primarily because my studio monitors + Polk DSW550wi sub have better dynamic range)
*primarily listen to hardstyle, some hardcore, some dubstep, and some metal
*I found the Audio-Technica AD2000X and AKG K551 (what I was able to demo at my local best buy back when I got the HD558) to be a bit boring for my liking

>Past headphones
*fell for the Beats Studio meme (got them in middle school, looking back at them they were complete shit, 14 year old me got them because they sounded quite good and I had never heard any decent headphones before, I was also a retarded basshead) [stolen by niggers]
*Audio-Technica ATH-PRO700MK2 (heavy bass, treble was screechy af, 15 year old me fell for the basshead meme) [sold]
*KEF M500 (overall quite pleased with sound signature, highs are crisp, muh A E S T H E T I C, portable)
*Sennheiser HD558 (desktop, bass has presence and deep extension but a bit lacking, excellent sound stage, only open back headphones)

>>55808864
>Budget
under $250

*was trying to say "(I've heard planar magnetic drivers are bretty gud)"

>>55808864
>*forward mids and a decent amount of bass
DT880?

Looking for comfy on/over ears that won't have to touch the top of my head. I use product in my hair and the last thing I need is that shit getting on the band.

>>55809028
Haven't heard any of these in person

>>55808864
>fell for basshead meme
>I was a retarded basshead
>I want a decent amount of bass

>Was a retarded basshead
>WAS

>Yulong U100


So you went from retarded basshead to lying hipster?

Why do people think that no bass + deadly highs = neutral

>>55807655
Looking for some advice:

>Budget
up to $150, willing to be a little flexible if some cans hit slightly above that
>Location
US
>Source
Aux, no amp or dac
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking for over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, I want that isolation
>Comfort level
This is a priority, I'll be wearing them for spans up to 5 hours.
>Preferred tonal balance
I really don't know my preference, so balanced all around is okay.
>Past headphones
Ultrasound HFI-2400 (open full)

>>55809159
Nah, I simply realized that "muh maximum bass" wasn't everything and that random bass notes isn't music. I'm 20 now to put into perspective.

Give me neutral IEMs for <$60 for my phone.

>>55808864
X2 might be nearest to what you want. Watch out for the highs.
>(I've heard planar magnetic drivers are bretty gud)"
Don't just get something different for the sake of being different. Get it because it works.
The HE-400S bass is very lacking.

>>55809041
An odd request. Most pads are designed with oval openings. People who do that often ask for in-ears or clips ons and such. May be worth considering earphones.
On ears are rarely comfortable, but some can be worn that way.
I might have been able to wear the DT880 Pro that way, but I haven't tried that in years.
That's all I can offer.

>>55809326
Etymotic MK5.

>>55809401
>I might have been able to wear the DT880 Pro that way, but I haven't tried that in years.
I can, I took my DT880 Pro out of storage just to try this. The clamp is so strong you can wear it this way if the headband leans on your upper back close to the neck area.

Can't be done with the Premium DT880.

>>55809959
That sounds kinda shite though. Like wearing a vicegrip on your head.

>>55809991
You could just bend the headband but I'm autistic, don't wanna mess with the sound. Besides, I've got two DT880s ;)

is the HD800/S "punchy?" i'm trying to find an elear in the seattle area to listen to because of their supposed super visceral punchy response, but i also want the commonly praised detailed and airy treble characteristics of the 800. man it's hard to find a lot of the $1000+ headphones locally. this hobby is going to lead me down a dark path.

>>55810148
It's not punchy, but the treble is quite airy, I've got a vanilla HD800. Bass response is typical of open backed models.

>>55810176
The 7KHz is the only thing that you should watch out for with the 800. I used an equalizer to deal with it.

>>55810176

the choice between a fun "cinematic" and "explosive" response vs a overall more hifi signature is tough. hopefully one or both of them will pop up somewhere nearby.

>Budget
$120
>Location
US
>Source
Phone, IPod, PC
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Silicon tips or foam for longer use.
>Preferred tonal balance
Anything

>>55809401
>Etymotic MK5.
Different poster, this really ticks all the boxes for me as my new IEM, except for the impedance and sensitivity, how loud does it really get with smartphones?

>>55810352
MA750?

>>55810408
Whoa never seen this before. Thanks man.

One question, an anon also recommended me se215 in the past. Is the se215 good?

>>55810523
>Is the se215 good?
No.

>>55810523
I'd only suggest the SE215 if you have to have detachable cables and cannot get the IM70.

And to be honest, I don't really see the appeal in detachable cables when you get IEMs with a three year warranty.

>>55810148
>is the HD800/S "punchy?"

That really depends on what you'd consider punchy. Before I have the HD800S, I used to have an HD800 modified with the SD resonator and their bass packed a lot of punch for sure compared to say, the HD600.

>Budget
Under $350
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over the Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Extremely comfortable. There might be periods where I use them upwards of 8 hours at a time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid-centric
>Past headphones
Sony Wireless Headphones (comfortable but apparently shared a frequency with my phone causing frequent interruption)
ATH-M50x (incredibly uncomfortable as they don't fit over my ears, although sound quality isn't particularly bad)

>>55810700
PM3 if you can pop the budget or HP50?

>>55810710
Raising the budget a bit isn't too much a problem. But will the PM3 actually fit someone with a head that's above average in size?

>>55810752
I can only comment on my normal sized head. You might try reading the reviews on Amazon or various forums to see if anyone with a big head posted about it.

>>55807655
>Budget
$1000
>Location
US/Canada
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
Real comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid forward good treble
>Past headphones
X2, Noble 4U IEM

(listened to EQ'd HD800 and T1, liked those. Didn't hate LCD-2 but those are fucking heavy)

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>found a set of mdr-7520's that were way under priced on ebay
>go for it becuase I sold some headphones I had that I wasn't really using

I don't think I've had a pair of headphones that sound this good that I can drive with just my phone

>>55810965
You already tried and liked the HD800, so might as well go for it.

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what do you think about these?

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I have my Sony MDR-7506's and replaced the muffs with the beyerdnamic valor ones
Did I make the right choice?
Haven't tested it too much yet except it is way more comfy but some people said it's at the sacrifice of audio quality is that true?

Good in-ear head phones for under £100, for listening to music when walking or travelling

>>55811011

I had MDR-V6's with the Beyer pads, I didnt think it changed the sound that much.

>>55811026
See >>55810408

>>55811026
Something something fill out the form but my go to recommendations are RE400 and HF5.

>>55810990
Yeah but that's with EQ. I had to dial the spike down.
Some people really insist on tubes. I don't. Never fell for that warmth meme.

>>55811049
What's the problem with using EQ? Every headphone needs it in some way, no matter the pricepoint.

The real meme is
>tubes are warm
Not all tubes are warm/rolled off in treble. Bright and """neutral""" tubes exist.

>>55811069
>Every headphone needs it in some way
not really

I know everyone here hates to admit that they're a basshead. And this is my stupid suggestion but you will be presently happy - Anyone who has a K7XX put bass boost on your primary listening device for windows and listen to... well you know what - some bass heavy song.

It gives you that punchy bass that's still so satisfying.

It's fun.

>>55811201
There is nothing wrong with being a bass head. I listened to M-100 for one. It puts a smile to my face and I feel slightly dirty but I don't care.

anything better around the price of evo681 or not?really want to get the best thing for that price

Just bought MSR7 how much did I fuck up?

>>55811449
Pretty decent if you don't mind the small pads.

>>55811411
nobody?

>>55811411
SHP9500?

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I'm going to ignore the template because my needs are specific and pic-related.

Long story short, I can't stand earbuds. They're uncomfortable, too small and/or too big, itchy, and annoying to work out with. I've been using these for at least a decade. They're literally the only thing I've found comfortable. Let alone for hours on end.

Anyways, with the seemingly inevitable demise of 3.5 jacks, and the discontinuation of these, I was wondering if /g/ is aware of anything similar (an all plastic, wrapped, sport design) that are Bluetooth.

Specifically the in-ear part is what I like most about these, but also, they fit so perfectly I can sleep in them.

>>55811815
Death of 3.5mm is fucking grossly exaggerated. You should look for a separate bluetooth DAC instead.
Long story short, I too, have a problem with old earbuds. I've switched over to IEM instead, but I am not (You)

>>55811815
uterus headphones

>>55811879
How do you into listening to 0s and 1s

>>55811850
I tried a few sets of IEM, specifically Jaybird brands, and most recently their X2. ( I used to work for a company that shared a business complex with them, they literally throw away returns and excess, no wonder they're so expensive) None were comfortable. If anything, they were worse than earbuds.

Let's try this again.

Is he right ? Are digital headphones the future

>>>/v/346600731
>>>/v/346600240
>>>/v/346599648

>>55811798
they are not even close to the price of evo and dont even have them in my country

>>55811936
Retarded. SINE uses lightning to connect to bypass the iPhone's DAC to the DAC/amp built into the cable which, amazingly, makes it analog.

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>>55807655
philips shp-2000
i use it and I am satisfied
anything above this is pseudoscience

>>55811981
>not even close to the price of evo
You should fly over to those United states of America and buy them here.
>my country
You never clarified that.

>>55812033
You are real easy to please. Are you running these out of your phone? I can't believe that you consider plastic band around your head to be comfy, but I don't think you care.

>>55812035
>You never clarified that.
Because we have almost all headphones here just not this model.

Etymotic E6 for 50 euros, good deal?

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>>55812445
Isn't ER6 really old and discontinued?
And /g/irls, don't even try to talk sense into /v/

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Accuracy

>>55812932
It's second hand- I'm lowballing him at 35 for an initial bid.

>>55813299
Maybe get it at around 40-45.

>>55811411
bump

>>55810371
Low but flat impedance. It's not low enough to be a problem on most devices.
Sensitivity is not nearly as high as balanced armatures, and lower than most other moving coil in-ears. Sensitivity is fairly average among headphones overall (rated at 115 dB/1 V).

It's good from my Galaxy S4, usually leaves some margin on the volume slider. Maybe not enough for large EQ boosts on some tracks.
I can't really say for you, I don't know your devices, how you listen, or what music.

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>>55807655

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Stay out of my way, best all around headphones coming through

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>>55812033
>2016
>still using closed cans

>>55814433
Why do you post HD650 for all around when you know damn well that 600 is better?

>>55814446
not this again.

Look theyre more similar than different. But you know deep down in your heart the HD650 is superior. They charge more for a reason. They have a little more bass which is what the HD600 is lacking in. I do think the 650 is more resolving at bringing out tiny details in music as well. The HD600 may be more neutral by a tad, sure, but also more boring sounding.

>>55814571
>dimmed treble
>mid bass hump
>superior

ayy lmao

>>55814676
>HD650 has clearer treble and extends higher than HD600 in both directions
>Mid bass gives you more power in kick drum and rhythm, I prefer this
>It is superior

Ayy Lmao? I guess we can see what kind of man children are buying the 600. Good one.

I have a really stupid question

So these takstar have a design that's good whether you decide to wear them normally or in reverse. as you can see the cable is on the right speaker.

However, is there any reason not to reverse channels and wear them in reverse if you find it annoying that the cable is on your left side?

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>>55814723
Forgot pic related

>>55814744
And the fact that the cable is not on the right speaker but on the left one. God what is wrong with my life today

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I was thinking of buying AKG K702s, but some people say that they are very thin-sounding and that they lack bass. Does anyone have any experience with them to confirm that if these are true?

>>55813833
cmon i need to order something today so i dont get it 4 days later

>>55814864
I have them. Their sound signature drastically changes according the seal on your head and if they're powered enough. If the seal is correct and you're listening to them at the right volume on a good amp, they're excellent and far from being bass-thin.

>>55810148
>HD 800
Punchy? It's got a broad bass boost. Most people seem to whine about the 6kHz treble peak instead.
>I'm trying to find an elear in the seattle area
Why don't you use Focal's website to help you do that?
This new product launch has been one big clusterfuck. Is the Elear even for sale yet?
The murmurs and rumors I've heard claim mid-August or so.

>because of their supposed super visceral punchy response
Elear looks kinda V-shaped.

>man it's hard to find a lot of the $1000+ headphones locally
Best Buy carries the HD800. They sell it higher than the typical market price on it, last I checked.

>>55814928
The bass boost isn't painful to bear, but the treble bores into your skull.

>>55814864
Like other headphones, if it has only a little bass boost and treble peaks, people focus on treble spikes instead. They aren't even that large.

K701 is not lacking bass, it's somewhat boosted. Maybe not enough.
Some people have mention sealing issues in these threads, this has limited applicability to the 701. It isn't particularly leak dependent, even if it more prone than some other open backed headphones.

>>55814928
>Elear looks kinda V-shaped.
get your eyes checked

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>>55807655
Sup

>>55814717
I have the 600 and I also think it's better than the 650. I guess the 650 is a good option if you really need more bass.

See, were not all gay.

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I want headphones in the $150 range that are comfortable, have decent quality, and durable enough to last a long time.

I was looking at these, Sennheiser HD 598. Would they fit the bill?

Slightly unrelated but what microphone would work well in tandem with those if I got them?

>>55815855
They're pretty good for the money.

I don't know the details but there's a tidy looking mic that people here use that you can stick anywhere on the cups of your headphone. I'm sure someone will mention it.

>>55815855
Question. How big of an upgrade is the Fidelio X2 to the HD 595/598? I'd like to know what am I getting if I step to the $200 realm.

>>55814717
They are literally the same fucking headphone with a slightly different driver, the HD650 has more bass. That is all.

>>55815998
Well, they have more bass and slightly less detail in the treble. Both are great, but the 600 is the better option for non nigga bass people.

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>>55815855
HORRIBLE BUILD QUALITY
AVOID

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>>55815346
Sup, man.
>>55815855
I'd get the HD558, it's much cheaper, offers about the same quality, same drivers and if you absolutelly need the same sound you can do the easely reversible foam mod (even though some people actually seem to preffer the HD558 stock sound).
For 150 bucks you can also go for the DT770 which is very durable and also very comfortable, but closed-back and v-shapped signature or the AD900X which is mid-centric/bright and extremely light.

>>55816583
I liked my simple headphone+amp template, until I saw yours :( . It's the best one on here by far :)

>>55814865
cmon guys ive waited enough

any suggestions for a Bluetooth speaker? Budget is $300
I heard the sound link mini yesterday and the sound link 3 and decided the mini sounded like ass in comparison

>Budget
under $75
>Location
US
>Source
S6
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
comfy pls (I don't mind needing to buy new buds)

honestly just looking to get a replacement set of headphones for my mom; her S6 headphones ripped, would like to get her a decent, inexpensive IEM with a mic since she loves to talk on the phone. Looking for something durable, but comfortable

>>55807655
I have a bit of double whammy as both my PC headphones and Smartphone ones had a failure in one of the two earpieces (only right side still has sound).
Also thinking of getting a soundcard for the PC.

>Budget
100-150 EUR for PC
20-50 EUR for mobile

>Location
Spain

>Source
PC Headphones would plug into soundcard (I am considering a sound blaster x-fi HD as it is discounted)

Mobile headphones would be plugging into a blue-tooth adapter (to not plug directly into the phone)

>Preferred type of headphone
PC - Any, though probably Open from my few experience with better headphones than I currently own.
Mobile - Preferred; In-Ear. Open for alternatives though

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
PC - relatively comfy, but willing to compromise.
Mobile - Confiness is preferred even if it compromises some the sound quality.

>Preferred tonal balance
Not enough of an audiophile to know this.

>Past headphones
PC - 2nd hand gaming headphones I got gifted (Steelseries Siberia). Sennheiser HD 201.
Mobile - Sony MDR-EX110LP


With all this said, my initial impressions were to get:
Amp: Sound Blaster X-Fi HD - Price: approx. 80 EUR
PC headphones: Sennheiser HD 598 Price: approx. 170 EUR
Mobile: Sennheise CX 300

I am open to have my mind changed on this.


Aside from that I noticed Creative has heavy discounts on their Spanish site for the Aurvana line of headsets and the WP-450 bluetooth headset.
I am unsure if the current prices are deals or just reflect how inflated the original prices were to begin with.

What makes Beats so bad?

>>55817916
K702

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>>55818079

>>55818147
Thank you for sharing this.

>>55818146
Thanks. I am looking it into it and it seems reviews say the headband is not the most confortable so I'll try to check them out in a physical store before buying them.

Any ideas for mobile?

>>55818147
>>55818183

The old Beats are like that. The newer ones actually can hold to being 100 dollar cans or so. They are overpriced for what you get though.

>>55814433
HD800S > HD800 > HD650 >>> HD600

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>>55816583
Haven't seen these in a while.

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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/disruption-headphone-world

>>55818446
Not him but the headband is comfortable, it's just not perfect.

I have a shaved head (not bald, watch it) and my old pair were pretty comfortable. If you have hair it should be gravy.

>>55817309
Why don't you just get the Evo, with its bass boost and all.

>>55818446
>it seems reviews say the headband is not the most confortable
That was the earlier K702, the one made in Austria. Had bumps in the leather headband that can get pretty annoying.

>>55819244
>That was the earlier K702, the one made in Austria. Had bumps in the leather headband that can get pretty annoying.
So where is the new one made? I'd assume made in Europe would mean better quality.

>>55819056
>I have a shaved head (not bald, watch it) and my old pair were pretty comfortable. If you have hair it should be gravy.
Fair enough. Will see if I can find a physical store beforehand just to be on the same side.

Am I right assuming amp is a must with these or do they work on their own?


Still accepting suggestions for mobile ones.

>>55818960
well we already know ether flows are trash and utopias are overpriced, only possible disruption is the elear

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>>55816583
But muh coke bottle. I haven't actually bothered to update the album list in a long time.

>>55819590
odac would be ideal but it's quite a lot of money.

The fiio e10k is an amp+dac and very cheap for the sound it provides. Get that and you're pretty much done. Possibly forever.

>>55819772
God my music taste is so normie even though i'm so picky. I like the look of the middle left album cover and the top right. What's the artist+album name, I need more music. Maybe they're on spotify.

>>55819894
James Blake - The Colour in Anything
milo - So The Flies Don't Come

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Thanks for recommending the Philips SHP9500, I fucking love them.

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I need some new wireless headphones to use with my PC.

Template:

>Budget
€200,-

>Location
Netherlands

>Source
Either USB or Asus Xonar DX

>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized

>Open or closed
Closed preferred, I think my mic might pick up sound if I used Open backed ones.

>Comfort level
Comfort is a big deal for me, I think my ears are kind of odd shaped so many headphones hurt after a while, I'd like to minimize that.

>Preferred tonal balance
Warm, I think, but it doesn't matter too much.

>Past headphones
Some Sony Wireless headphones, Audio Technica ATH-M50, Corsair Vengeance 2100

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>Budget
200+ CAN
>Location
Canada
>Source
objective 2 odac to PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
comfy, ill be wearing them for hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
bass is good, also something with good sound stage and detail
>Past headphones
AKG 702, superlux hd668b, Cheap IEM's for portability

>>55819656
Stop bandwagoning retards from the SBAF forum.

>>55820265
what?

>>55820189
DT880 600 Ohm. It's not better than the K702, it just has more bass.

>>55816138
Detail on both are similar but more apparent on the HD600 because it's brighter. I owned both. HD650 are great headphones but I just happen to prefer the HD600.
>>55818766
Reverse it and it becomes correct.
>>55818960
God, they measure like garbage.
>>55816242
This has been fixed for years.

>>55820409
>God, they measure like garbage.
so if they measure like garbage how does the hd600 measure, because the elear is objectively superior to the hd600 in every measurement on tyll's graphs

>>55820471
Tyll's HD600 is a turd.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FocalElear.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD580wHD600headband.pdf

>>55820519
thanks for helping prove the elear is better, more extended bass, upper midrange isn't glary, bass distortion isn't horrifying like on the hd580/600.

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>>55807655
Guess I'm here asking for help.
Also I dont know what this picture is that i'm posting

I used to use Klipsch Image One headphones until my mother "borrowed" them and lost/broke/threw them away (not sure which, when I went by their house to get them back she said she's never seen them).

>Budget
Under $200, realistically I'd prefer less than 140
>Location
USA
>Source
I'll plug them into my phone at night to listen to horror stories, maybe for music occasionally.
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed, on ear, my wife hates hearing what i'm listening to

>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, I intend to fall asleep wearing them if possible.
>Preferred tonal balance
None, though my Klipsch had a bassier soundstage
>Past headphones
Klipsch Image One
g900 series headset
cheap iphone headphones

>>55820542
HD600 is more neutral kiddo. I could care less about bass extension, distortion and 'glare'.

>>55820598
>caring about neutrality
>using full-sized headphones
you're retarded and you're even more retarded if your idea of 'neutrality' is garbage target curves like DF, especially on headphones where it doesn't apply because headphones are not DF.

>>55820612
Don't take the bait, dude. You should learn that all these people claiming that the HD600 is neutral and so good mostly base their opinions only on Goldenears graphs, which is the only place where HD600 has a more linear FR than its cheaper and overall better competitors.

>>55820612
>I don't know anything about target curves but let me pretend to sound like I know what I'm talking about
>>55820714
HD600 measures well on a ton of sites, Seeko, ClarityFidelity, PersonalAudio, Headroom, SBAF, etc.

I don't even like GE beacuse their measurements are too smooth.

>>55819923
Thanks m8

>>55820790
>DF shill
oh look it's one of these retards who pretends to know what he's talking about.

>>55814723
>>55814744

are these good

i've got the 2050's but one of the sides is going out

>>55820895
>I don't like accuracy therefore it's shit

lol

>>55820982
>i think i know what accuracy is therefore i will shill it like nothing else
>i just don't realize i'm making a fool of myself because my lack of education in the subject is showing
i actually get embarassed for you hd600fags

>>55821001
Name some accurate (or relatively accurate) headphones then.

>inb4 headphones can't be accurate

>>55821055
>i'll inb4 the truth so i sound like i'm right!

>>55821084
Them why bother shitposting that the Elear is objectively superior to the HD600 when it clearly isn't

80€
EU
PC
Full sized without mic
Closed
High comfort lvl
The best tonal balance fpr playing videogames listening to edm and jazz
Now using Gioteck Ex-05

>>55821120
Anti-measurements autists treat this hobby like wine-tasting. HD600 is like an established wine that everyone finds good but nothing special. Elear in the new kid on the block with rich notes, etc etc

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>>55817290
Thanks Anon, i actually like yours, it subtle, and it's hard to beat the LotR engraved O2, that think looks really cool.
>>55818797
Yeah, several of the old template posters went away, but it's still fun now and then.
>>55819772
The coke bottle will live on in our hearts, Anon. But yeah, i really needed an update, kinda felt wrong not having Guns n' Roses or Queen there for example, my first favorite rock bands, after i got the L2 i thought it was time.

>>55814755
Reverse the headphone channels physically, and reverse them electrically to cancel it out? That works.

>>55821160
I think the Brainwavz HM5 fits that budget.

>>55820000
DT770 perhaps? It's got more treble than might normally be considered warm.

>>55821364
Thx for the advise will look for them

How's the 32ohm DT880, most sites don't seem to recommend it and the measurements across various sites makes it look inferior to the 250/600ohm editions.

>>55820556
V-Moda M80 is on ear, built like a tank, which might be usefull in case you roll over them or something, has detachable cable (in case you need a replacement) and is bassy in a good way.
However, are you sure you want on-ear? those are hardly comfortable. Since you want to listen to them in the bed i'd either suggest some smaller over-ear (the bigger ones might be to builky for the pillow) or an iem depending on your prefferences.
By the way, do you sleep facing up?

>>55821351
>several of the old template posters went away
At times it seemed more template than other types of posts being made. Posters were making templates just to fit in.
I don't think I prefer that.

What did you do for that audio project you mentioned a while back? I think you were toying around with the idea of trying to measure burn-in or build a simple dummy head.

>>55821478
It's fine. Not that sensitive though.
>and the measurements across various sites makes it look inferior to the 250/600ohm editions.
Can't get those differences consistently. It's not beyond the normal production variations that occur in any headphone.

>>55821587
Thanks, may go for the 32ohm just to try it.

>>55821587
>Posters were making templates just to fit in
Yeah, that was a bit annoying indeed, but i do miss some of them, that dude with tons of Sony headphones for example, he was very polite.
Oh yeah, i did had this idea of trying to build a basic dummy head, register and couple measurements with double-blind ABX tests to see how much driver angle, signature etc could change the perception of stage. I never took it any further though, had to work on my gradutation paper and later on a Master's pre-project, headphones will probably feature on my dissertation, but actual headphone research will probably be left for much later.

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Noise isolation earphones aren't good for long-term use, right? I've yet to find a pair that fits me great, but I imagine even the best pair would strain your ear canals after a while.

>>55821980
>Noise isolation earphones aren't good for long-term use, right?
Never had a problem wearing them for a 10+ hours on flights. Just use foamies if none of the silicone tips fit comfortably. Though these are not with ety IEMs. I just cannot get comfortable with those ear dildos.

>>55822031
Maybe I should have said "constant use" instead of "long-term." I'm talking at least 21 hours per day.
Although I suppose I'd assume 10 hours without strain means they won't strain your ears at all... right?
But foamies + no IEMs; how much sound do you manage to block out?
Basically I have noise-cancelling earphones at the moment and am wondering if good-fitting noise-isolation ones would be better. Noise cancelling still blocks out most sound I face, though. And I don't really care about the money I'd save.

>>55822144
>they won't strain your ears at all... right?
No problems.

>But foamies + no IEMs
What do you mean?

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>tfw EQ'd my SHP9500s for the first time

god i'm such a fucking idiot for not doing this earlier

>>55822254
show us your EQ

>>55822269
i'm only using the default Rock config that comes with Peace and it's orgasmic

going to tinker around with it later so i can get an even better sound

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>>55822321
the presets are awful. the preamp hasn't even been lowered to accommodate the gains.
it's more of a demonstration than anything that should be used seriously.

>>55822252
I'm curious how much sound you block out. If you've used noise-cancelling earphones, you could tell me which you think blocks out more sound.

Sony MDR7506 or AKG K240?

They're both £70-80. Not sure if there are any other candidates at that price.

Source is whatever, would be willing to get a portable amp/DAC.

Would prefer more neutral. Have Sony XB700 atm. They are comfy though.

>Budget
Up to 250 Euro
>Location
You guessed it,yurop(Netherlands)
>Source
Various mp3 players,smartphone,on board sound
>Preferred type of headphone
Over or on-ear,slight preference to on ear due to size and they act as earwarmers xd
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Most over or on-ear hp's fits nicely,one exeption being some pioneers on-ears(headache af)
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or a bit warm? is fine too
>Past headphones
pioneer HDJ-500,AKG k501,senn HD-518,

>>55822922
K240 is like a shittier MDR-7506, so it's not really a contest unless you really need a detachable cable.

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>>55807675
>Good and cheap 7.1 head mounted stereos?

>>55822922
>Would prefer more neutral.
MDR7506 it is, while good the K240 has a strong v-shape signature.

>>55822970
Beyer's Remorse DT770

>>55823116
not the 250 ohm version too

>>55810992
They sound decent enough but break easily, shitty cables and sound leaks everywhere

>>55807655
Anybody else see the new portapro color vote? I seriously hope rhythm beige wins.

M50x alternatives? I hear they're not as good for the money as they used to be ~3 years ago

>>55823171
voted for rhythm beige too, looks very retro.

>>55822650
>I'm curious how much sound you block out.
Depends on the IEM but a decent pair will block out 30dbs or so. Of course, it doesn't do anything about the deep sounds you feel more than hear like engines.

>>55822650
They're all over the place. Some have no isolation, some exceed noise cancelling in ears.
The best isolation will be from a deep fit earphone with foam sleeves. Multiple flange sleeves are up there.

>>55823673
Some can isolate bass, some don't. Fit kinda matters here.

>>55821546
I sleep pretty much all over. In ears that I use now (gummy tipped ones, cheap) suck because when I roll on them Its like I got stabbed in the ear.

I used to sleep with the klipsch on just fine.

>>55823760
Are you saying that there are IEMs which will isolate you from the vibration you feel through you body like jet engines or bus engine noise?

>>55823673
>>55823760
>some exceed noise cancelling in ears.
Without discomfort? Even if I have them in literally 24/7? I guess I'll keep looking or get a custom pair then. Thanks.

>>55822922
Razor sharp treble ear rape vs no bass and difficult as fuck to drive. Pick your poison.

Look into M40x.

>Budget
$100 (CAD)
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone (Note 5)
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
High, also I would like them to be flat (not stick out) as I am planing to use them while lying on my side and I would like them to not be wraped around the ear (like the SE215).
>Preferred tonal balance
Any
>Past headphones
598, no complaints

Want some IEMs to use for watching movies and YouTube on my phone. Sound quality isn't too important it is more about comfort and durability. Would also prefer no mic/controls.

>>55809320
> random bass notes isn't music. I'm 20 now to put into perspective.
pleb/10

>>55823838
The rumbling sound, yes, but not the sensation in the rest of your body.
To pick on Bose, their QC20's ANC is tuned to remove midbass rumble, but leaks subbass. Etys just have a general attenuation going on, generally blocking out bass and all sound.

>>55823905
Universal tips (multi-flange and foam) can have more isolation than customs (acrylic). Custom shells are rarely rated for more than 30dB of general isolation, things like Etymotics and a few other brands (some Audiofly models) can get 40+ dB broadband attenuation.
In general, if you slip on isolating sleeves and force a small sealed balanced armature IEM deep, you can probably get tons of isolation.

>Without discomfort?
Eh, maybe?
Deep fit isn't so popular even if there are good reasons (maximum isolation, minimized occlusion) to do it. It can only work if the earpiece is small, or very long. This extends to deep CIEMs, specifically of the hard acrylic type.
Inserting something up to the bone (also called the second bend) can be discomforting for some people, other people don't mind it.
I personally don't mind deep fit at all and can wear these things all day long.

>>55814433
>>55814446
>>55814571
What about the 558 modded to 598?

Can you guys help me with amplifiers? I don't understand this stuff too well or maybe I'm over thinking it

I suspect my issue is that the signal going into my receiver is too weak but in any case I have to crank the audio on my receiver waay up to get decent audio out of it. I'm in a huge open room and I've got some nice big speakers so I'd really like to drive some powerful sound.

Can I just throw in an amp and it'll suddenly be louder? Is it that simple? What exactly should I be looking for - a pre-amp? a power amp?

>>55820714
>cheaper and overall better competitors
which are? I want to buy some headphones

>>55818623
That's the same thing that happened with Pax.

Would two different pairs of the same headphone have the same EQ? How does one properly EQ their headphones?

>>55807655
okey guys, I need comfy, wireless and with good sound isolation headphones, my friend told me that I should buy the parrot zik, what do you think? recomendations?

>>55824704
>I personally don't mind deep fit at all and can wear these things all day long.
I see I see. Alright. Thanks again. I'll remember all this info! I suppose I'll try a few more pairs of noise-isolating and then maybe get custom ones if I can't find comfortable non-custom ones.

Hi friends
does anyone have experience with Kanto yu2 speakers?
I need to buy speakers

>>55807655
>Budget
$250 AUD

>Location
Australia

>Source
ASUS Xonar Essence STX card (6.3 mm jack)
Also a Fiio X2

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
reasonable

>Preferred tonal balance
no preference

>Past headphones
Haven't headed down this path yet

>Budget
$80
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
In Ear
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible. Will be using them for hours on end at work. Sound quality is not as important to me.

thanks

>Budget
100 usd
>Location
usa
>Source
laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
full sied
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
as much as possible, pretty important

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I'm a total pleb as far as headphones go. I was recommended the Oppo PM-3 here for my music composition and digital piano playing stuff, but I'm wondering if the difference between the PM-3 and for example, the Sennheiser HD800 is enough to justify the 600 gap difference between them.

Has anyone tried both of them? Or are they not even a good idea for composition and interpretation?

>Budget
$250
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
no preference
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, and best possible sound isolation (wireless)

>>55826465
is this at a library?

>this literally happened at the library I work at
glad I was on the other side of the building and only got to hear about it

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So my MDR V6's have a dent(?) in them. Is there any way I can fix these or should I send them to Sony. I bought them a year ago.

>>55823390
Bump? How does the M40x compare to the M50x?

>>55826465
Both have different sound signatures with the PM3 having a treble rolloff while the HD800 has somewhat excess treble, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison.
Stick with the industry standard and get a 7506.

>>55826554
No idea anon, didn't even occur to me. I thought it was some guy jacking off at his job.

>>55826465
And adding to this, the HD800 was just an example, it could also be a PM-1.

Basically the question goes mostly towards the difference in quality between $400 and 1k headphones. You know, diminishing returns and all that.

how different is semi-open vs open

>>55825642
Spend a little more and get beyerdynamic dt250's

I'm getting a server motherboard that does not have onboard audio.
Which is the best soundcard can I get at $30 max? PCI-E is fine, USB is preferred.
I will be driving cheap headphones and bookshelf speakers with it (around $70 budget for speakers, $20 for headphones)

>>55826743
Thanks Anon

I was looking at the ATH M50X, Is it worth the jump in price in your opinion? (am sound pleb getting educated)

>>55826908
Yeah.

I had m50x and beyer dt150's, I pretty much stopped using the m50x's, and the dt250's are even better.

>>55826793
Just get a USB-3.5mm off ebay.

>>55827128
They seem really really sketchy. No name companies that have absolutely no specs listed and very cheap looking products, I'm afraid to get audio that is just too shitty.

>>55827144
Mate you're using $20 headphones. It doesn't matter what you buy.

>>55827232
It does matter if it is constantly buzzing, reacting to mouse movement, etc. Had that happen a lot in public PCs.

>>55827119
Thanks mate

Anything else to add in comparison? Specific audio qualities? comfort differences?

>>55825247
>Would two different pairs of the same headphone have the same EQ?
You mean a very tightly matched sensitivity? Probably not, it's reasonable to expect in most cases that you can blind test two units apart, even if they are of the same model.
>How does one properly EQ their headphones?
Get a parametric EQ.
Make boosts in places that you feel are lacking. Make cuts to remove boosts, peaks and like. Drop down gain to avoid clipping and distortion. Use tones/noise bursts to help narrow down objectionable frequency bands.

That's what it boils down to. The wiki has its own explanation written around EQAPO. Or just ask away.

>>55825413
Generally fits the use requirements.
The sound on Zik 2 and 3 is neatly summed up as MOAR BASS. It is very bass boosted. At least it has an app to manipulate that.

>>55826616
The fit and finish is usually a cut above the usual crop of 300-400 dollar headphones, fancier than the popular price segment. Materials are moving into luxury territory over the more workhorse headphones.
If the headphone is well made, aspects such as linearity should be improved. Wave behavior inside the cups should be controlled better.
Flat transfer function is optional, usually not done. I find this a trivial issue.

>>55826625
Some semi-open sets are pretty much just open (DT880, K701). Sometimes they have some isolation (Nighthawk, K240).

>>55826555
pls respond

I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like headphones. IEM is the way for me. I'm not looking for anything fancy, I don't even know what most of the terms used here mean and I sure as hell have no intention of using a DAC or amp. I guess I'm looking for something... balanced? Neutral? Entry level, really.

Where would I start looking? I'd like to spend as few USD as possible but have a hard limit of 100.

>>55827646
Most Ety models, if you don't mind deep insertion.
The RE400 is good as well, but has chink level build quality.

>>55827682
>deep insertion

Oh my.

Naw, but seriously, fuck that noise. Is there something you'd suggest?

>>55827707
Those are pretty much it when it comes to _neutral_ under 100. Most other things in that price range are niggerbass.

>>55827736
Eeeeeeh thanks for the input. I'll look into them before I write them off. I don't really care about bass, I listen to mostly rock music with brief dalliances in country, bluegrass, and rap.

>>55819244
Because I want to see if there are better headphones around this price and "bass boost" is not really everything.

Am I allowed to ask about bookshelf speakers here?

>>55828195
Also interested. Want to know the best ones undes $70.

>>55828259
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A

these are mine and I have no complaints

>>55814908
>>55815218
Thanks, I have one more question. I am also planning to buy a Fiio E10K, but some people claim that it's not good enough to run the K702s, while others say that they are well suited them. Can I get the E10K, or should i go with a more expensive dac/amp?

>borrow gf's Bose QC2s
>get dumped

Semi-win

>>55828423
Thanks for the recommendation! What sort of amplifier would I need to drive those?

>>55828547
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/35/objective2-headphone-amplifier/ this one is nice but you might be able to find something cheaper, they stopped making the meme /g/ budget amp

>>55828651
>headphone amp
>speakers
you're retarded

>>55828651
Holy shit, that is far too expensive, much more expensive than the speaker itself.

>>55828705
https://www.amazon.com/Lepy-Tripath-Steoro-Amplifier-Supply/dp/B00OJZP4YE/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1469866732&sr=1-1&keywords=speaker+amp+lepai

>>55827350
M50x and DT150 had powerful bass that bled into the lower mids and masked detail.

M50x not really very comfortable.

>>55828708
Much better, thanks.

>>55828651
Don't be a retard
>>55828547
Get a Lepai 2020 its like $15

>>55828969
Is it a known good amplifier? Amazon review tells me so, but just want to make sure.

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Does anyone have the new beyerdynamic foam disc? Is it any different from the old one? Thinking about getting another set of ear cushions.

>>55829050
>>55828969
Also, does anyone know of a equally cheap DAC? Again, I have no on-board audio whatsoever.
I'm under the impression I'm spending a bit too much on the DAC+AMP, considering they will probably cost 60 when I want to spend no more than 120 total...
Could I do better withing this budget?

>Budget
$100 and less
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO K1
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
doesn't matter
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy/V
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681
JVC HAFX40 IEM
Samson SR950

I listen to Drum&Bass, Ambient, Dubstep, IDM and Downtempo mostly. The step up from the Superlux to Samson's were a big upgrade in music due to the tamer treble and increased bass response though lost what felt like half the soundstage which is a tad of an issue as I play CSGO a lot felt like a slight downgrade in terms of positioning. I do like the tight clamp on the Samson's because my glasses would rub on the pads and squeak on the Superlux while the Samson's are minimal.
Any response would be great, thanks.

>>55829095
>Again, I have no on-board audio whatsoever.
how

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>>55828424
E10K works great with K702. Pic is my setup. E10K can push the K702 up to 113 dB, I strongly doubt that you want to reach that loudness.

>>55829203
>still shilling this garbage setup
it's actually pretty sad that you want to subject others to the same low fidelity garbage, just how heartless are you?

evo681 or 661 and is the bass on ev681 really that muddy?

>>55829201
He's the retard who bought a server motherboard and wants to use it for everything.

He got told earlier to just buy a usb to 3.5mm

>>55829237
Not everyone wants to spend 600€ on fancy and snob gear for a minor, if not unaudible, improvement ;)

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>Budget
$200, flexible
>Location
New Zealand
>Source
Fiio X5
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear or on ear. Looking for something not too huge. Foldable would be a plus but not essential
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not concerned
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. Not too keen on harsh highs
>Past headphones
Yoga CD-880

>>55829273
$50 headphones would be better than your setup

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Hey my friendos,

My father has a STAX headphone because he gets impressed by salesmen trying to sell him stuff he does not understand. (he also bought a $500 bluetooth headphone to listen to mp3 streams and webradio)

But he destroyed one bracket and doesnt use it anymore. Can you tell me if there is (resonably priced) replacement on the market or do i need to call their customer service.

are Audioengine A5+ still the best desktop speakers for the price?

>>55829782
>still the best
When were they?

>>55807655
I own the hd600's and I LOVE them but I have the 650's on the way from amazon. I just couldn't resist trying them.

I can still cancel the order. wat do.

send help

>>55829906
Try them, return them.

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Hey /g/, I'm new to music listening equipment. I have 4 years old Senheisser HD 380 PRO, which should be decent, but I have been listening to them using the internal notebook audio card all these years.

Will I notice significant improvement with, let's say, FiiO E10K Olympus 2? $75 is really as much as I'm willing to pay for DAC.

Also, "how" will it make the sound better? I have everything in flac. Will I have to play with equalizer for each song?

Thanks for advice, I'm new to this. If you have some beginner guide for this kind of stuff, I'd appreciate it.

>friend has a very rich uncle
>sbows me a picture of the headphones hes getting him
>450 dollar B&O brand
>never heard of them
>tell him there are probably better options at this price and that this might be a memer brand
>he tells me Im just jelly and everything expensive is guaranteed to be good

Have you guys ever heard of this brand? I know nothing of them but surely there are way better options for the price.

Got a great deal on a pair of Hifiman HE-560, but they seem to be clipping. My current amp is an O2 and as DAC I use a Focusrite Saffire 6 USB audiointerface.

Is it the audiointerface, the amp or both that aren't suitable for the headphones?

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>>55830148
Bang & Olufsen. They make high-end audio and home theater gear, with an emphasis on fancy minimalist design for the modern nouveau riche.
They're like the Apple of audio, not really bad, but definitely overpriced. Literally anything else is better for the money, but they're not going to be disappointed with the purchase either.

>>55829929
Well that's kind of the plan but i'm wondering if they're even worth it. I can save extra hassle by just clicking the cancel button while I can. It will probably disappear in a few hours.

>>55830058
First of all if you're going to buy a first dac get the e10k in your picture. Secondly you most likely won't hear a significant difference. It should be better but most upgrades in this game are small. If you don't know what to listen for you might not hear a difference.

That said you should at least get the e10k as a minimum lol. it's very good for the money.>>55830179

>>55830179
Shit I didn't mean that for you.

You might be 'double amping' That's supposed to cause problems. Apparently.

>>55830449
Yeah, I don't really understand music from the technical standpoint. With flac and HD380, I like that everything is clear (ie when there is silence in the song, there really is silence, not "interference" as in mp3s), but I don't really know what to look for. I recently started listening to progressive rock, so I thought I might enjoy it more with DAC.

>>55830524
Honestly, get the e10k. Even if you don't think it's making a difference technically it is. It's cheap and well built so you can keep it for life. Chancs are you will end up upgrading your headphones anyway so it's a usefull thing to have. It's very portable for an amp too.

>>55830636
OK, if it's the best for the price, I'll get it. Thanks!

For someone on a budget with no gear at the moment who also needs a mic, would it be better to get, let's say a V-Moda Crossfade LP2 or SS Siberia 350 or should I spend a bit more into some decent headphones (HD598, DT-880, AKG Q 701) with separate mic?

I've requested purchase advice here before but the headphones vs headsets still stalls my decision. If in any case you need some info prior to replying, I can tell you that I like my bass, this is for gaming/potential streaming, open/closed doesn't matter and I need over ear. Thanks guys.

>>55831077
Just don't get gaming headphones. You can buy a mic that sticks on to the cups of any headphone

>>55830179
The Focusrite appears to have outputs set to different levels. Which outputs?

It's easy to clip the O2 inputs, it's one of the several design flaws that it has. The volume control doesn't stop the gain stage from overloading the amp if the gain is set too high.
What gain settings are you using?


>>55829587
Stax sells replacement parts.
>customer service
You haven't mentioned what country. If it's the United States, hopefully Yama's isn't as much of a pain to deal with now as I've heard of.

Put on my hd600s today, left cup no sound. Thankfully after trying right plug in both ports it turns out the left cable is just broken and its not the cups/connectors.

>>55831327
wew, close call

>>55831145
I use the 1-2 RCA outputs on the focusrite to the O2, according to the focusrite website those are:
Unbalanced Outputs
Maximum output level (0dBFS): -3.5 dBu
THD+N: 0.03% (0 dBFS input, 20Hz/20kHz bandpass filter)

I usually put the monitor-knob to around 8/10 and then use normal gain on the O2.

>>55830474
Not quite smart enough to fully understand that, but I think the focusrite outputs quite unamplified audio.

>>55831925
I'm assuming the focusrite is an amp AND dac. if your using that along with the o2 amp you might be 'double amping'. See if theres a way to cancel out the focusrite amp on your computer.

I might not be the problem though. Just a suggestion as I've heard people mentioning double amping before.

>Budget
>Location
200-250 AUD as an average price, max of 450

>Source
Sound Blaster 3di, 3.5mm

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size

>Open or closed
Closed preferably

>Comfort level
Very

>Preferred tonal balance
Between bassy and neutral

>Past headphones
Some cancer that I'd rather not go into, currently have a Takstar Pro 80

>>55831140
Any suggestion for that attachable mic? I'm having trouble finding anything.

are hd600s really endgame headphones? I can get them for 270 and then would spend 100~ on amplification (USD)

/hpg/, looking for closed gaymin' and outdoor set. in $200 category, I can choose
>M-100
>Custom one pro
>M50x

What should I go for?

>>55832574
Yep, everything on them sounds brilliant. They're the only full sounding AND detailed headphone i've ever tried. I use them with the o2+odac. That's my literal end game.

>>55832431
I don't know any i'm sorry but there's one posted on here quite often that's small and can be stuck to anything. Someone help this nigga out, some of you know the mic i'm talking about.

>>55807655
>Budget
no more than 400$, not sure if it will be worth it with my current card though
>Location
Russia (just look up Amazon)
>Source
Asus Xonar DG card (it has a built-in amp for 64 Om)
>Open or closed
Closed, definitely
>Comfort level
High, my current Aurvana Live headphones are too tiring in a prolonged wearing time
>Preferred tonal balance
dont't want bass to be completely absent and don't want the sound to feel stiff, that's it I guess
>Past headphones
Aurvana Live 1 - sound is pretty good, comfiness is not

The most fitting phones that I've found so far seem to be Audio-Technica A900X and OPPO PM-3. any word on these ones? PM-3 seem too good to be real. Also open to other options.

Thank you guys in advance

>>55832351
DT770 or MSR7

>>55832760
Which would you recommend for long listening periods?

>tfw fell for the Sennheiser HD598 meme

Huge waste of money and full buyer's remorse over these. They sound tinny and everything feels distant and veiled. They have literally no bass whatsoever, and I'm nowhere near a basshead as I mostly listen to vidya soundtrack, jpop, vocaloid and chiptune. Even fucking chiptune lacks bass and sounds tinny. I have also bought a Fiio E07K DAC AMP and it makes no difference, it just raises the volume, which isn't needed since these headphones are so powerful volume-wise they sound like speaker if I max out the volume on my PC. These are only good for classical recordings and nothing else. Even modern orchestral music sounds like shit due to the distant sound, veil and complete lack of bass and sub bass. For gaming they sound ok but the lack of bass is noticeable in music and explosions and other sound effects, I like the soundstage but everything still sounds distant. As of right now I prefer to play everything on my speakers or my Sony Livesound earbuds I got with my ancient Xperia phone. Even headfi meme earbuds like the VE Monk or the Earbell E100 sound better than these. The sound is completely boring and unenjoyable, analytical as fuck, except it lacks bass. Even female vocal sound boring, these headphones managed to make my favourite AKB48 songs sound boring, and I've been told that these were amazing for female vocals.

[spoiler]well maybe not better but more pleasant and enjoyable, with fuller more armonic sound.[/spoiler] The HD598 is only good for classical recordings and nothing else.

>>55832873
Are they really that bad? I've been wondering if I should pay for the HD598 or buck up and get myself the Fidelio X2 which I se /hpg/ and others talking about very frequently.

>>55832020
Can't find many settings for the focusrite apart from in software made for working with audiointerfaces.

How would I fix this? Buy a new DAC? or buy a new amp and DAC? Feels bad to have great headphones but not using them.

>>55832937
Sound is subjective, some people love them. Depends if you would like a completely flat response with very light bass and very wide soundstage.

>>55832942
>>55832020
That stuff about "double amping" is a load of crap. All you need to do is keep a sensible gain chain.

>>55831925
Probably not clipping the input, voltage is not high enough. The low impedance load of the 560 is difficult to drive, but I wouldn't be sure if that is the issue.
>then use normal gain on the O2
The O2 design has a bunch of different setting to chose from. The original design was built around 2.5x/6.5x gain, but then 1x/3.3x and 1/2.5 settings were added.

>>55832873
>>55832937
I don't think anyone would have told you to buy the HD598. The usual suggestion is the 518 or the 558.

>>55833174
My O2 is 1.0 and 3.3x, and me using the 1.0x. Is the O2 at all capable of powering my HE-560?

>>55832942
I have no idea m8 sorry. Sell your focusrite and buy a separate odac lol. That's what I did.

>>55833224
Unity gain, so you aren't amplifying it at all.
>Is the O2 at all capable of powering my HE-560?
Yes, and you wouldn't be stressing the O2 at all like that. Changing it to high gain ought to be fine, so I doubt it's an O2 problem.

Maybe you have some software or EQ on that is affecting the result.

>>55832640
Antlion modmic?

I just got a pair of fidelio x2s, good amp in the 100-150$ price range?

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So /g/uise.

i have 120 bucks for headphones, which ones i should pick to no be ripped off
pretty much goes like this:

>Budget:
up to 120 usd dollars
>Location:
im on the Dutch Caribbean but i can buy from virtually anywhere in the world,

>Source
Cellphone and laptop. nothin fancy

>Preferred type of headphone
closed

>Comfort level
Comfort

>Preferred tonal balance
Bass

>Past headphones
None

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After using this one for two years I changed my priorities. Now I really want more comfort. Fuck, I'll never again underestimate how important it is...

Currently listening to Noble's new Savanna IEM guys

Any questions or insults for me?

>>55834010
Impression, size of earpieces .Pics with a ruler or something else for reference would be nice.

Comparison to the Noble 4 and the rest of the line, old or refreshed Noble lineup.
Comparison to some other popular earphones, ER-4, SE535, and so on.

>>55833429
>Antlion modmic

That's the one

>>55834087
>the current year
>using foobar2000
>not using billy

Are you even trying?

Any idea where I can get replacement ear cups for Xiaomi headphones? Mine started tearing away.

If not, any other company's ear cups that would fit? They have a twist to lock mechanism.

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>>55834269
These kind of ear cups.

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>>55834087
>bjork

marry me.

>>55811011
Are you happy with them overall? They are pretty old

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>>55833429
>>55832640
>Antlion modmic
This will do nicely. Thanks!

>>55829239
nobody? also 330hd too

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>>55834843
>not Debut

Already filed the divorce papers

Does anyone have some experience regarding what IEM's have a reasonable lifespan? I've had 3 pairs of Xaomi earbuds(Piston V3, Piston V2, Dual Driver) that generally die within a ~month, and I've had like half a dozen of Seinheiser CX 300/400 that last 3-9 months.

And i am kinda looking at spending a little more, eg, 50-100$ if that means they'll live longer.

>Budget: 50-100$
>Location: Europe
>Source: Phone
>Type: IEM

Bassy IEMs are generally preferred, because I find IEMs are generally lacking in that regard, but something balanced would be fine as well.

>>55836979
MA750. Comes with a three year warranty while other IEMs only have a one year warranty if that much.

over ear closed headphones under 80?

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so looking at tyll's measurements of these 3 new "endgame" headphones:
-ether flow was not measured right or has sealing issues or both
-utopia does look amazing but that fucking price
-elear has a big ass notch in the treble, don't know how much of that is fixable

so you basically have to pay 4x the price of the elear to remove the treble notch and make it a bit more even. lets compare this to the other companies who are offering their "high end" at ~$1000 and their "best" headphone at significantly more. elear to utopia is 4x the price, which is insane and unjustifiable imo. same with the he1000. the difference is the edition x, the he1000s little electrostat brother, measures better in comparison to the he1000 than the elear does to the utopia. I can see some people preferring the edition x, where the elear has a glaring problem compared to the utopia. Ether to ether flow seems like a much better deal as well. ether was already great, ether flow is different enough to justify the price.

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>>55834064
I happen to own both the 4 and Savanna atm so I'll give you my comparisons:

The 4 has a very transparent neutral sig that I think has great PRaT, imaging, separation, and fairly wide soundstage for an IEM. But, it was a little bass-light and had a prominent peak at around 6kHz, so I didn't really love it.

The Savanna built upon what made the 4 great- soundstage, vivid midrange, imaging, balanced signature- and basically improved upon it. The 6k peak is gone, and the entire presentation is much more even and pleasant all across. The soundstage is fairly wider and taller, and I can more easily pick out instruments in mixes. The midrange is somewhat the same, but maybe just a tad more forward and lush. Bass is much more filled in and I really don't see myself needing anymore bass for my preferences, but some people may still find it to be bass-light if they're not used to reference/neutral signatures. I think the bass is perfectly linear to my ears, with the only problem being a roll-off at 35hz or so. Timbre is excellent and very realistic. Detail retrieval is about on par with the 4. Extension up top is quite good too for an IEM in this price bracket. The treble is still pretty crispy, so I don't think it is a very warm IEM, but it's not overly cold either. But if you don't like analytical sound signatures, than don't even consider the Savanna, since it is very revealing and unforgiving at times.

All in all, I think it's great neutral-to-midcentric IEM. Like I said, it's very clinical sounding. As far as other IEMs go, I haven't really listened to a lot of sub-$500 neutral IEMs, but the ER4SR comes really close to the Savanna, and if slightly more technical prowess is worth $150 to you, than Savanna is for you.

>>55823390
dt 770

m50x is bassy, m40x neutral (and probably the best headphones in that range)

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Couldn't find anything in the wiki, is there a /hpg/ guide for speakers? I'm looking for 2.1 bookshelves for my PC.

>>55832574
its endgame for most
i cant think of a better headphone for value
they're about 70% of my lcd 2s at like 30% of the price

>>55815988
not an upgrade or a downgrade, they have very different signatures, almost opposite.

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>>55807655
Anyone have a suggestion on a good dac that can match the performance of a Hyperx cloud headset? Integrated audio on laptop is ass.

Not exactly headphone related, but what audio file quality do you shoot for in your collection? I've been trying to read up on the subject and have found a bunch of negativity toward .mp3/320kbps. Is 16/1411kbps good enough? Or do you recommend looking for even higher quality? 24/96kHz?

I ask because it is significantly easier to find CD-quality audio than 24/96 up.

>>55839467
I use flac with whatever bitrate I can get from the tracker to archive, then convert it into opus or vorbis.

>>55839503
Why not leave it as .FLAC?

>>55839251
A cheap little Fiio K1 is an option.

>>55838450
I'm not sure Ether was that robust in the low frequencies to start with.

>>55839467
The needs of data files beyond 16/44.1 is highly dubious. CD data is more than good enough, as far as anyone is willing to test.

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>>55839634
Because, barring whole album flac files, my biggest file is an almost 8 minute long 300mb 24/192 and I don't need that kind of shit on my main drive or portable.

>>55839636
I think the ether just doesn't have the kind of impact people expect from the "planar bass" meme. the mad dog was the same way, people expected it to be really bassy sounding or like the LCD2, but in reality it's just warm, with decent impact. that's what his description sounded like anyways. honestly I don't know where he likes his bass impact. I find the X2 to have a bit too much, hd600 and k7** have a tad too little, but with a bit of eq boost those are my favorites in terms of bass level (for open anyways).

so basically the elear does not look worth the price with that big treble dip, no matter what tyll says. he said the he400s meze99 were the shit too.

The cancer continues at >>55840122

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Are vsonic vsd1s good? Are they even IEMs? Are there any other cheap entry IEMs?

>>55829050
lepai 2020 and the bunch of chink amps with the same basic design sound great, but the build quality is another thing. it's very possible interference or channel imbalance or cutting out will happen after a while, that's what happened to me anyways.