It only smells... :(

>>55807216
Blue board you cunt.

>>55807216
the fucks that

>using deodorant

it's like you want the aluminum jew to control your mind and weaken your sperm

>>55807216
>>>/biz/

not technology

>>55807216
mark your own area in office and make sure faggots dont enter it. use room sprays in your area. sabotage the faggots and work better than them.

>>55807237
It's just cream filled pastry. Get your mind out of the gutter, friend.

OP
this board is ONLY for pro-linux, Everyday Carry, and GUTS threads

Nobody here actually has tech jobs it's for children to buy consumer goods on

we know this because we are

>>55807384
Approximately when did /g/ become shill central? I'd say that early 2014 is when /g/ pretty much saw its last days of glory. I barely visit anymore. And every time that I do, I shake my head in disbelief.

Thanks, MODs.

>IT 6 years
>can be replaced easily

Your doing it wrong.

If you get replaced then you deserve it. If you aren't full of shit your ex-company deserves what happens.

End of the day, you work for yourself and your company just pays for your existence in the office. If you are proud of your work then you should concentrate on that.

>>55807262
Only anti perspirant has aluminum. Regular deodorant doesnt Pajeet.

>>55807341
It's still a cream pie. And creampie is a porn by definition even if there are no people involved.

If they can onboard some newbie and take over your job then you're doing it wrong. Nobody making $13/hr is a qualified sysadmin.

>>55807216
>or USE DEODORANT!!!!!

Deodorant is bad for your health.

DESIGNATED

>>55807216
where do you live theres 5 jobs posted today in my area you could land

>>55807859
How so? See >>55807766

Anyway, do you actually carry about your health or just use it as an excuse for smelling like shit?

>>55807216
>6 years IT experience
>27 dollarydoos an hour
Do you just fucking play solitaire in all your free time or something? Anyone with 6 fucking years of IT experience should be able to interview and get positions that pay far more than that.

>>55807216
be grateful m8. My company did the opposite and now I'm the only IT guy left. Went from six IT staff to one. All my like-minded co workers, fun people, office socializing gone. Feels bad man trying to get off this Titanic.

>>55807907
$50 an hour is market rate for that experience level. I suspect that OP is as shit as the noobs he works with.

>>55807216

What type of environment do you work in? Are you dealing with the public at all? If so, I would say you are safe. Odds are other people including other employees will most likely say something. Especially if it's as bad as you say. I don't get paid a ton at my job but I do know they could hire a couple noobs for the price of me, yet they don't.
If your job/boss has any fucking brains they will realize you are more of an asset then two sweaty smelly fucking neck beards.

>>55807341
^^

>>55807316
I do not want to sabotage their work. They do a passable job, and it helps me out, since I don't have to babysit them. I just want them to shower, that's all. The room is way to small to have my own personal area, and escape the stench.

>>55807894
I live in a shithole state, with not that much opportunity. But I am super comfy here, and my wife is rooted as well.

>>55807907
Then why are you a fry cook?

>>55807975
The job is fine, but the smell is not. Is there a polite way to solve this? My bosses are PC to the max.

>>55808050
While I feel, that I am a great asset, I can not read my boss' mind. If he decides to cheap out, then I am a goner no matter what. I also do not kiss ass, and never will. A crafty ass-kisser can probably earn a lot more favorable position than me.

why is it so hard to say,
"goddamn this office smells like ass and sweat."

Are they Indians? I've never met an indian that used deodorant.

>>55808274
>The job is fine, but the smell is not. Is there a polite way to solve this? My bosses are PC to the max.
Are these new guys somewhat down to earth? If you don't think they'll throw a fit over it you could just mention it to them. Some dudes are just kinda dense that way, they don't smarten up until someone says something.

>>55808274
>Then why are you a fry cook?
I'm an IT intern. Unlike some useless fuck like you I'm actually learning stuff that can get me a better job.

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>>55807216
Sysadmin in an Eastern European country.
I work in a quite small (elementary/high) school, 23€/h, got this job thanks to contacts, never really learned IT.
Best part is I work alone, I mostly don't have to go in, most of my work is related to installing Powerpoint and projectors, rarely have to do intensive hours long work.
Even better, the way the system works here, we have to waste a certain amount of money every year in the IT side of the school, so I just buy enthusiast grade video cards for teachers computers for physics simulations (never actually do any, but I have to write something) and take a few cards for myself, nobody really cares and there's nobody to check on it., doing this with not just video cards.

I also don't have to worry about losing my job, because the county mayor and school director are close friends of family.

I won't go into more detail, you faggots have asked my questions about my work several times before anyways, but feel free to ask.

>>55807384
You forgot the hourly /v/ sponsored GPU warz

>>55808934
Yeah, can't forget the nice folk from /v/, that's really nice of them to drop by once in a while.

>>55807216

>be me
>caught a bullshit gross misdemeanor case so on probation for 3 years
>nobody will hire me despite 10 years of experience across multiple platforms and areas thanks to bullshit charge
>discover Upwork, Elance, and Freelancer, make accounts on all of them
>constantly being beat out for jobs because I charge $35/hr and pajeet and rest of the curries charge $4/hr for things like standing up cloud infrastructure, managing RHEL infrastructure, network security, Solaris admin stuff, Liferay Architect, Virtualization architect, etc.
>Only land gigs when client requires US based freelancer
>eek out a living making less than half of my old salary before getting fired because of criminal charge.
>can't get new clients because now filipinos have joined for $5/hr and they speak better engrish than curries.
>last month seriously considered leaving IT all together to drive a truck or something.
>at last visit to P.O. find out I'm eligible for early release in 6 weeks. Will get a reduction in my charge so I can go back to work making real money again.

I just had a look at my Upwork profile and I received exactly 2 views in the last month. Curries have flooded the market with their cheap labor and clients are turning to them first.

>>55807907

Seriously, I started in IT on a helpdesk making $15/hr. within 3 years I was at $30/hr and two years later I was at $47/hr. Before I caught my case I wouldn't roll out of bed for less than $55/hr much less get dressed for less than $65/hr-$70/hr.

>>55808290

I prefer "hot ass and foot", but "ass and sweat" works as well.

>>55807262
>hating aluminium, the best metal
It has the best weight/durability ratio

>>55809079
Are you sure those two views aren't from you?

>>55809136

it's also a known neurotoxin and, according to the Lancet and several other medical journals, there's a definitive link between aluminum and Alzheimer's

Cool picture lol

>>55807216
Considering the amount of time that you have been in the company you might be more valuable to keep since you know how the companies IT infrastructure works. If they don't care about their personal hygiene just go to HR.

>>55807216
From experience they usually learn pretty fast that 'cheap < quality' after kicking the last competent worker and shit keeps breaking and customers start suing.

Same thing happens with indians, as soon as you outsource anything to india the complaints keep piling up

i have told two indian fellow cow-orkers that they need to shower because of BO and they said thanks and started showering in the morning. well, one did, the other told me i am wrong because they use axe. I had to get hr to convince him.

quality > cheap

outsourced work to india or china === more problems than a solution.

imagine hiring a US company and paying US prices for US quality but it is made by gurpets and rajeets in a filthy shithole office in india.

Wrong board for the type of advice you ultimately need.
>>>/adv/

>>55809664
This
Outsourcing == A bunch of Judy Bergsteins suing you for over 10k because you "broke" her computer with your shit software.

>>55808880
Let me guess: Estonia?

>>55810097
Cheap booze country, yeah.

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>>55807251
Miku's creamy bun.

I work in Taiwan and they don't even sell deodorant in stores here. Luckily a friend tipped me off and I brought a case.

Thankfully Taiwanese don't smell as strongly as Indians but the train is still a pain.

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>>55809180

>>55810313
Nature at it's finest.

>>55809147

no, it only counts views by client logins.

>>55807216
1. Buy a round of deodorant
2. Leave deodorant in/on each of their desks when you're the only one around
3. Pay a woman $5 on a microgig website to write an anonymous complaint to HR about being harassed by smelly pajeets
4. Raise pigeons
5. Locate pajeet cars, introduce to freshly squeezed pigeon
6. Get really good at playing the markets
7. Once you have enough money to retire, invest it into hiring several crackheads for life to follow pajeets around and make bird noises at them
8. At this point you should have upgraded your pigeons to target pajeet cars autonomously
9. Challenge pajeets to a game of chess
10. Replace all the pieces with pigeons
11. Say "Checkmate Pajeets"
12. As pajeets realize the error of their ways, you have already boarded a boat bound for pajeetland
13. Declare pajeetland a colony in the holy name of God Emperor Trump
14. Receive colonization bonus and spend it on mass exportation of pigeons to pajeetland.
15. Military occupy pajeet houseshacks, place a stick of deodorant on each of their desks without leaving any other trace you were there
16. wake up
17. have a cuppa
18. read the newspaper
19. go to the bathroom
20. poo in loo

>>55810469
21. everybody walk the dinosaur

>>55808880
Ey daft punk. That makes 2

Hey OP I work as an ISSO for a big time Gov.Contractor. These fuckers hired me as a security guard to be trained as an ISSO. Because there full time ISSO was being paid shit now he makes 40 an hour. Anyways I knew some shit about administrative shit but honestly knew nothing of an ISSO role. I just completed a year today at my job. Still payed by a regular security company for a government contractor who won't shill out money to take me on. I honestly have revamped our whole closed network and got kudos from the CEO but they rather pay me 24 bucks then 40.

>>55808418
for 6 years?

>>55810606
Oh an no bullshit when I started a year ago they started me at 14.. there reasoning was that they didn't know my lvl of knewledge.

>>55807216
And yet I bet you you're one of these people who will vote for Clinton. You reap what you sow.

>>55807262
this desu

>>55807216
>>55809251
>Just go to HR.
Exactly this. This is an HR problem. They will investigate, and realize that they stink...literally.

I remember when I used to work at EA they handed out deodorant sticks and Axe body sprays to the dev teams.

Didn't work.

>>55811664
>Axe

Probably complained it smelled like rotting fruit or something.

>>55807216
Stop reminding me.

> work with the testers as a developer to support them
> we have this "other room"
> few guys in it
> the entire room smells like shit
> the guys smell like rotten fish

It was fucking godawful.

>>55807216
WTF is pic?

>>55808880
Why can your shithole third world country afford a non-teaching position other than cleaning?

>>55811866
Because it's actually a really nice place without jews and niggers where everything is cheap and smart people live well.
Not to mention no terrorists or immigrants, cheap land and big houses, great ISP's without spying and government that does not suppress its people.

>>55810376
Its

>>55812549
Dumb auto correct.

>>55811866
Can't really call places like that
>shithole third world country
When there exist places like Morocco where people can't even order online

>>55811866
> Why can your shithole third world country afford a non-teaching position
>> And my shithole can't?
FTFY.

>>55810621
I can tell why they were sceptic...

>>55807216
Bitch to HR that the pajeets hygiene is affecting your ability to concentrate and get work done.

>>55812975
Great way to get fired and replaced by two more pajeets who don't mind the smell

>>55807772
>by definition
how about you drink some chlorne?

>>55813020
People bitch about stinky coworkers to HR all the time. And a company that would fire you to bring on two pajeets is not a company worth working for.

>>55813067
It's having sentiments like that but companies not worth working for still help you pay the bills.

God I hate fat neckbeards smelling like sweat. If you are one, know that everyone knows. And that's why noone likes you.

>>55813067
>>55813088
Stop shitposting so much.

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>internal IT workers
You're fucking scum. You have no idea how any of your stuff works since it's just a cobbled together mess built by different 3rd parties vendors and support techs that you called when you couldn't figure it out. You spend your days jerking off in your cubicle and bandaging your infrastructure with shitty workarounds instead of improving yourself and preparing for new technologies.

Once SDN and Orchestration make their way to the SMB market 95% of you will be out of a job.

t. Consultant

>>55813297
Don't forget their favorite word;
AGILE

>>55807216

Welcome to a special lesson in Economics, Anon. Brought to you by the same markets that suffered it, which include:
Customer Service, Customer Support, Construction Labor, Retail Sales, Inside Sales, Commercial Art, Manufacturing, Cooking, Product Distribution, and many more.

No, seriously. There are plenty more markets than just IT that are being drown out by people willing to do an inferior job, for less money, and companies love it. Why pay American Minimum Wage to have people answer phones and call clients regarding product orders when Pajeet can do it for $3/Hr. Why pay some ungodly money to a Local Artist to paint stuff for your waiting room, when Paderpa will paint you whatever you want for basically pennies and shipping. Who would hire Joe Average and his buddy Bob to dig a trench when Jose and Ricardo will take a quarter of the pay, no breaks, and show up early and work late. Would anyone pay some Sous Chef a REAL salary when you can make your executive chef train 2 teenagers to do the same things he'd need a Sous Chef for, and at minimum wage, too?!

Ultimately, Anon, the answer is: Value. Companies don't see the value in the work these workers do beyond the basics. The Value of a phone answered is the same to them if the customer is angry, or happy, as long as it's answered. And if the value of the work you guys are doing is as basic as "did it get done" then you're right fucked until YOU change their way of thinking to show "No, theres more to what I do than just getting it done."

>>55813314
>AGILE
Which is ironic. Once IT infrastructure truly becomes "agile" they're going to find that their skillsets are no longer needed and they'll be kicked to the curb or relegated to desktop support if they're lucky.

>>55813467
No they won't desu.
Even when they implement AGILE companies will always need cucks to "fix" Outlook for the yes men.
Not to forget companies always will need someone to go into a conference room and get bent over and fucked by an ISP.

>>55813490
>companies will always need cucks to "fix" Outlook for the yes men
Hence the few saps they keep around for desktop support.

>someone to go into a conference room and get bent over and fucked by an ISP
True, but it wouldn't be too much trouble to throw some middle-management cuck in there instead.

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>>55808880
>Eastern europe
>23€/h

>>55813569
if hes from >>55810097 then it's no suprice

>>55813040

I bet you think raspberries are pkay to post, too.

>>55812579
>When there exist places like Morocco where people can't even order online


whats more interesting is apparently a quarter of all mobile apps developed world wide come from morroco.
i have no idea how that is possible.

>>55807216
Good companies who value quality don't hire like that.

That said I'm in one of the rare instances (blue chip tech consultancy) where that's not the case sadly.

>>55807558
>>55807384
fucking retards

>>55813526
Normally that guy's position is IT Project Manager

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>be in munich
>dont find work for almost 2 years after university due to oversaturation
>finally land a job
>its the best job ever
>only work 4 days a week and dont even have to go in most of the time
>im responsible for the website frontend and internal application web frontends frontends for our customers and a lot of data visualization
>get paid 70€ an hour because im the only front end guy working with the only backend guy and our company makes software primarily for banks written in jsf.
>company is full of white people
>only 1 black chick who does statistics and one turk woman in HR and shes super nice and hates islam.
>hour investors are german and none of em are jews
>monthly company outings
>open company environment and no bullshit like agile
>when someone isnt currently busy with work he can just go into another department and sit in to learn stuff or give input
>i regularly have 2 guys and a chick sit in from finance to teach them how https works
>one of em already picked up angular 2 from me and likes it a lot said it helped him make his own web presence for doing stuff on the side.

its great im so greatful for my cousin helping me out in getting this job.
the best part is everyone is a genuinly great person and understanding.

>>55810158
thats full on roasty.

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>>55807384
I know this is bait, but seriously, consider suicide by cyanide.

>>55813314
>>55813467
Agile is one of those many things which is brilliant, but 99% of corporations just do it so wrong because they try to bog it down and directly translate it to their concepts of governance, accountability, traceability etc.

My current client is running an "agile" development project with 6 month "sprints". If that's agile then I'm the pope.

>>55813720
Agile isn't bad. It's just never done well. Except for maybe at the earliest startup level.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/antiperspirant-facts-safety

>>55807216
Get a different job and watch the company tank. With the whole "could" movement companies are slowly fucking themselves over. They're turning all their data over to pajeets or people who can use it to crush them. Manchildren managers now run the place and don't know what corporate espionage is.

>>55807216
>>55808274
>>55809079
>>55809123
>>55809251
>>55809578
>>55809664
>>55810194
>>55810606
>>55811623
>>55811704
>>55813402
who gives a shit you faggot.
White people are obsolete. They cost to much for little work they do. and they whine alot.

You cant blame the boss for hiring someone for less pay and who will not strike because they didnt get their cry baby medication money or their special snowflake iphones.

less of you getting money means less of you breeding means less of you having little fat headed medicore kids who grow up thinking they are superior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0wCam2oDc

>>55807262
>Worries about trace levels of aluminum in his arm pits.
>Doesn't realize aluminum is used throughout the food packaging industry and in cooking utensils.
>Prolly sitting at his computer swilling a can of mountain dew while pinching his nose because he smells like a greek salad left on the dashboard on a hot summer day.
Wew.

>>55814698
Oi m8 you know where the toilets are around here?

>>55814758
>smells like a greek salad left on the dashboard
kek

>>55809136
I think you're forgetting titanium.

>>55807772
Synonyms are made by the CIA to confuse us

>>55809079

>last month seriously considered leaving IT all together to drive a truck or something.

I drive a truck now, do not miss IT work. It's mindless work but I rather work to live than live to work. Pay is pretty good as well.

You'd be welcome as an ex-con, as long as your not a murderer or something a lot of companies will look past it otherwise they would loose half their truckers.

>>55809161
That was all proven to be untrue. Alzheimers is caused by a plaque build up in the brain. Pretty sure if you can detect it's presence very early (before there are any symptoms) it can be prevented entirely.

>>55810158
Why are the Japanese such degenerates?

>>55814782
>kiwi
>toilet
you probably spin clockwise when you ride the dick too.

>>55814858
>kiwi
Get fucked m80 I'm a saffer. I just speak in memes.

>>55814818
your fuckin dumb lol

"Some brain plaques have been found to contain increased levels of the metal."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Alzheimer.27s_disease


You do know that corporations can spend money for scientists to tell you lies as long as the product is selling?
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/6/1070.abstract

>>55807216
Go to human resources I'm sure they can do something.

>>55814698
>pajeet is this buttmad
Poo in the loo pajeet.

>>55809161
>>55814818
>>55814914
i want to point out that heartburn medication are now under study for dementia risk. heartburn medication uses aluminum to decrease the acidity.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/can-heartburn-medication-cause-cognitive-problems-201603219369

>>55814997
>>55814914


That's all very nice, but even when you ignore all independent studies that showed no correlation between aluminium and dementia, even if you ignore that all the studies that showed a link were massively flawed, you still have to answer the fact that only MINIMAL amounts of aluminium enter your body via your deodorant

It's completely negligible compared to the amount of aluminium you eat and breath

>>55815035
>showed no correlation between aluminium and dementia,
> MINIMAL amounts of aluminium enter your body via your deodorant
>It's completely negligible compared to the amount of aluminium you eat and breath

i still dont follow. are you pointing out that aluminum does cause dementia and that we ingest more than we put on?

>>55814997
So which is it? Aluminum causes Alzheimers or, aluminum causes autism? I see a lot of kooks leading the debates against aluminum.

>>55815072
I'm saying that there's no correlation between aluminium and dementia and even if there was you could still use a deodorant because most of the aluminium in your body enters via food, water and air

>>55815072
>are you pointing out that aluminum does cause dementia
No, if it did we'd all be fucked. Aluminum readily leeches into foods in the presence of weak acids. Put a piece of foil in a bowl of spaghetti sauce, it will corrode and develop holes in about 24 hours.
Dementia has existed forever/before the advent of man using aluminum. It simply didn't appear as frquently in early times because other things killed people before old age did.

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>>55807603
>mods
There are moderators here?

>>55815187
>No, if it did we'd all be fucked.
>Dementia has existed forever/before the advent of man using aluminum.
>It simply didn't appear as frquently in early times
you sure about those 5 minutes?
"The number of people with dementia is steadily increasing. Alzheimer's Society believes that careful planning for the future is needed now to ensure that the right care and support is available."
https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=412

"Impact of fluoride on neurological development in children"
https://www.hs"ph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/

"New York’s Fluoridation Fuss, 50 Years Later"
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/health/new-yorks-fluoridation-fuss-50-years-later.html?_r=0

If the FDA pushes poison, then i have no doubt that all places where academics are needed are fraudulent, even NASA. Given the prestigious and prosperous record of the U.S. just fucking shit up to its own people, you should worry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBhzRY6UuVA

>>55814961
If he reports them for being smelly, they'll write him up for being a racist and force him to diversity sensitivity training or something.

Then they'll have a valid excuse to replace him with another dumb $13/hr worker and pocket the rest.

>>55813402
Retail sales staff are still white and pure shit where I am.

>>55815558
Doesn't realise that a manager is a person too, and is the one whose ass is on the line if things fuck up

>>55807262
>the aluminum jew

>>55809079
what did you do? It's an anonymous board, you can tell us.

When you guys say "IT" what exactly do you mean?

Programming? System admin? etc

>>55815582

Vast majority of retail workers in America are "young" and underpaid