/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

First for X230

best actual 14' or 15' laptop for college?
I have $200

Reposting from last thread:

Tech illiterate here. Considering buying a T430 or X230 since both of them are in my price range (max 350-400€) and seem to be a direct upgrade to their predecessors in most regards. Screen and battery life is most important. Don't care about potatobility. Want to use it as learning experience.

Suggestions on which to buy?

>>55665711
Alrighty, I'll be sure to ask again, thanks

Guys, worth buying a t420 and replace screen to LED? So I have the perfect laptop?

What options do I have for the ultrabay? The location of the cdrom on the T420 is awful and I end up hitting the eject button every time I pick it up.

Or better yet is there a way to disable the physical eject button?

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>>55665794
Threadly reminder.

>>55666540
Get a hdd caddy and use it as a drawer to hold your flash drives.

>>55665873
t420
x220 if you don't want to change the cpu
x220t if you don't mind a lower battery life, slightly bulkier than a x220 and want to draw futa

I just restored my X60t to working condition with Ubuntu, but the display is too dim. Is this common? I was hoping to get and X201t as an upgrade.

>>55666593
How is battery life on x220 compared to t420?

>>55666666

>>55666612
comparable
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=x220+vs+t420+battery+life

>>55664315
>Get the T460s, it won't throttle as much as the T460
Why; I thought the s stood for slim and therefore underpowered?

>>55666593
thanks but I hate LCD and x220 is only 12'

>>55667015
Yeah, I'm only into CRT laptops too.

Due to a seller error, I've been waiting for two weeks for my x220 to come in, but thankfully the shipping says it's set to arrive tomorrow.

Pretty bumped for a keyboard that isn't chiclet. It's coming with a 128 SSD, which I assume is in the M.2. or whatever part, so I guess at some point I'll throw in a large HDD just in case I actually manage to use up the SSD, but this is going to be a machine for schoolwork so...

Which is better to conserve battery life?

Charge from 40 to 80% always or charge every time you can up to 80%?

>>55667183

the x220 cant handle m.2 ssd

>>55667183
its most likely standard 2.5 drive if the seller didn't specify cuz they were/are still $5 cheaper than mSATA counterpart so you gotta buy yourself standard HDD and additional mSATA drive

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>>55665794

I want a Thinkpad P-70.

17 inch is way easier to use for me, but I'm open for a 15 incher.

Questions:

1) For a BS in Mechanical Engineering, would a M600M be enough of a GPU, or should I upgrade it?

2) Would I be able to use an external GPU through the thunderbolt 3 ports?

3) Will I be able to buy it with a crap 500 GB HDD, and then install a M.2 SSD NVMe myself?

Any advice would be appreciated.

T430 with fingerprint reader and without are the same?

>>55667455
No. One has a fingerprint reader.

>>55667481
Thanks anon.

>>55667481
but why?

>>55665794
bought a x230i on ebay. 320gb hdd, 4gb ram, i3. i know i can upgrade the first two, but can i upgrade the cpu? also was 215$ a good price?

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>>55666557

Just bought a T420 i5 2.5Ghz, 4Gb RAM, 320Gb HDD, and HD+ display for $135. How did I do?

I saw a picture of the proper finger positioning for using the trackpoint once. Does anyone have it?

>>55667612
>can i upgrade the cpu?
>was 215$ a good price?
no (only the whole board) and no (too much)

Is there anyway to decrease finger stains on the lid? Or do I just have to live with it?

Eyeing a used Dell Latitude E7240 with i5-5300U, 16GB DDR3, 256GB SSD for around 629$ (converted from my country's currency). Should I go for it?

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Pls 4 the love of memes, tell me that the X230T keyboard can be replaced with an X220 keyboard?

I don't think I can use this chiclet cancer any longer

Should i get a G40 or X41t?
Both are going for the same price

Both have no OS, but the x41t has a hard drive and my x61t pen should work with it.

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I saw a T420 with Nvidia dedicated graphics for $120 on craigslist yesterday. I meet up with my friend so that we can take a look at it together.

The guy told us to meet at this home depot parking lot. We said sure there's a starbucks in that same parking lot where we can test the wifi and charger. He texts us back "I already told you the home depot parking lot. That's where I meet everyone." My friend, who is Russian and doesn't take shit from people, and I were pretty pissed at this point, and we were thinking it was some FOB who doesn't know any better.

We said okay we're here, and he comes 20 minutes later. He comes in a mini van that has been stripped out of the backseats and looks like a van where he puts all of his stolen shit in. It was some older white guy who looked like a casual heroin user with his thick blue sunglasses and runners hat. As he is pulling the laptop out he says "I have an AC converter in here in the back so you can test out the charging and there are numerous hotspots out here." My friend ignored it and we started up the laptop. The top and outside was in very nice condition, except for the bottom where the rubber seemed like it was ripped off of somewhere The trackpoint was missing from the laptop as well and when I pointed it out he said "oh it fell off I can go pick it up right from home." Didn't matter, we got to the desktop screen and we check the graphic properties. No Nvidia dedicated graphics.

We tell him this doesn't have the dedicated graphics. He said he ran out of laptops with those a while ago. Before I could call him out on his bullshit my friend says: "This is what we wanted and this is what you advertised." Casual heroin user responds "What does it matter to you?" My friend says "Because Im the buyer. It seems like you don't have the right laptop." We walked away and with all the red flags he obviously stole a bunch of thinkpads from a school or somewhere. He is still posting craigslist ads for thinkpads this morning too

>>55668353
The X230T keyboard can be replaced with an X220 keyboard.

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>>55668405

I really wish I got his license plate number because I am certain he stole those from a school. Should I post a buyer beware ad on craigslist next to his ads? I want to believe that anyone looking for a thinkpad is smart enough to know they're stolen.

>>55668405
>>55668450
set up an ambush with 8 or 9 people and beat the shit out of him

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>>55668427
Thank you. Does it matter if the X220 keyboard is sourced from a regular X220 or the X220T?

Just want to make sure

Are there different versions of the X220 keyboard? Would you recommend one over the other?

>>55668483
models within a family share a keyboard. you could pull one from a w520 and it would work.

>>55668201
Wash your hands more often. I'm also a greasy fuck, I feel your pain.

>>55668515
did not know that. Isn't there a form factor difference between the X and W series, even if it's the same generation of device though?

>>55668483
There's 3 manufacturers; ALPS, Chicony, and NMB. NMB is considered to have the best feel, with ALPS considered the worst

>>55668537
Not the keyboard.

>>55668201
Cover them with obnoxious stickers

>>55668483
I don't know, you just told me to tell you that it can be done.

But I do know that the X230's keyboard can be swapped out for an X220 keyboard, so I'd assume it's the same story for X230T since they appear to use the same keyboard.
I also know that you will have some trouble with keymapping that can probably be fixed through software.

>Are there different versions of the X220 keyboard? Would you recommend one over the other?
Not that I know of.

>>55668537
Not for the keyboard, there isn't.

>>55668567
>I also know that you will have some trouble with keymapping that can probably be fixed through software.
A custom EC rom flash does the trick

Use the Google

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>>55668543
Thank you for spoonfeeding me. This is my first newer model. Been on an X200 and X200T forever
>>55668563
>Not the keyboard.
I see. I guess that I should have looked at a side by side picture before asking stupid questions

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>>55668537
same keyboard m8.

>>55668450
>Should I post a buyer beware ad on craigslist next to his ads?
I don't see why not, it can't hurt. I feel bad for the poor schmuck that is going to end up buying one.

>>55668598
As a T520 owner, I will not use the google because this is not an issue I'm having.
Provided with the information that it won't work perfectly right off the bat, the guy can use the google himself to figure it out, though.

>>55668543
You forgot Lite-On.

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Is there any way to reflash stock BIOS on newer models like the X230? (for the purpose of fixing a locked BIOS)

I've done hardware flashing before on older Thinkpads

>>55668674
Get one of those chip clip wire harnesses and an external flasher (rPI, USB based shit, etc). Pretty much follow the instructions for Libreboot.

>>55668382

>>55668698
Oh, so you can still flash OEM firmware via the hardware method on newer models? I thought they would have made it more difficult for some reason

>>55668668
Lite-On replaces NMB but only for the newer chiclet keyboards, I think, I'm talking about the original style

>>55668732
I'm pretty sure you can. I've not tried myself, though.

>>55668674
That's not how you fix a locked bios

You have to short some pins while you power on the machine which bypasses the password prompt, then you can go in and turn it off

Should be the same process as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZjUPUYE7s

>>55666593
>x220 if you don't want to change the cpu

Realistically, should the CPU of a laptop ever be changed?

>>55668774
I would probably get a W530 and replace it with an i5 dual core for power savings, since I only really want one for the GPU

>>55668750
I guess if there is coreboot support for those models I can't see why it would not be possible

>>55668767
not that I know what I'm doing but wouldn't reflashing be a cleaner solution than shorting pins?
I don't see why reflashing stock firmware wouldn't remove the password

>>55668774
Sure, if you want one it doesn't ship with.

>>55668794
Reflashing doesn't work, because the password isn't stored on the BIOS chip

>>55668807
Oh, shows what I know. Was the supervisor password ever stored on the SPI in previous models (out of curiosity)?

what's the difference between T430 and T430s?
Which is better?

Does x220 read microSDHC cards?

>>55668888
T430s doesn't have the battery options T430 has, so you're stuck at 6 cell max I think, or less

However, T430s is capable of a 1080p IPS screen mod with an adapter board (currently not being produced at this time) while the T430 is not

Is there a brand new ThinkPad (either T, X or W/P series) released in the last year, with Skylake Intel chips?

I also live in expensive Ireland, €200 for X200s on an Irish auction site, good price senpais?

>>55668921
The xx60 series all have Memelake.

>>55668921
>X260
>T460
>T460p
>T560
>P40 Yoga
>P50
>P70

All these use Memelake

>>55668909
There is an SD card slot, assuming you have an SD to microSD adapter or USB to SD/microSD adapter then yeah it should read it just fine

>>55667677

meh

/g/'s thoughts on the X1 Yoga?
Taking notes by hand is a pain, and typing has less retention. Is this the solution?

>>55665913
1366x768 looks bad on a 14-inch screen so go for the X230.

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>when sellers blur out the model type in the ad.

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Just got a T510 and there's this shit on the screen. Is this something that can be repaired or do I need a new monitor?

>>55669162
new monitor

>>55669186
Thanks bruh.

>>55669199
lol, idk dude, google is your friend

>>55669095
Thanks m8

Hey, my current laptop shit itself and I need a new one asap. I also don't want to get an awful computer but I have a $200-$250 budget in freedomdollars. I normally use it for general tomfuckery on the internet, school, Photoshop/Illustrator and also Ableton and DAW work every now and then with the occasional steam game. Any recommendations on a model to cop on eBay? Thanks guys, much love.

>tfw finding a really good deal a day after purchasing a Thinkpad

Fuck why does this always happen

>>55669467
It always happens chum. At least you got what you wanted right? Makes the purchase that little bit more valuable to you

>>55669492
I guess you're right
Still kind of a shame though

>>55669162
Try cleaning it with some 50/50 vinegar/water mix. It may be IN the screen, not on it, in which case you're boned.

In the UK and broken thinkpads can go for around $100

>order T400 from ebay with no charger for $50
>find T410 for $60 on ebay

kill me

>>55669859
Seriously I hate it when that happens
Happened to me last week

>buy basic X220 model with a meh battery: €150
>one day later
>X220, new battery and IPS panel: €175

And the seller was the same person

>>55669931
kek

Anyone have experience with HP elitebooks? Looking at a refurbished 6470B.

what's the best dell anons?

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i don't know if this has been asked before, or even done before, has somebody painted their thinkpad with another color? i know about custom painted headphones but i doubt you do the same steps with a laptop.

>>55670203
>paint
looks like shit just vinyl wrap it.

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>>55670203
Found this in the archive. It looks disgusting.

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>>55670203
>but i doubt you do the same steps with a laptop
>complete teardown
>mask off parts of you don't want to paint
>paint parts
>????
>reassemble
Come to think of it, a white Thinkpad might be neat.

Should I get a Dell Inspiron 15 7000for 680 usd? I want to do a little gaming with a nice screen. If not please suggest me something

>>55670336
It would be sexy as fuck. I want to wrap my entire T420 but i dont know how much the vinyl would effect temps even if i cut out all the million and a half vent ports.

>>55670361
>i dont know how much the vinyl would effect temps even if i cut out all the million and a half vent ports
If you cut out the million and a half vent ports properly, it won't affect temps at all.

>>55670380
Nice. Might get a new shell and wrap that so i can paint the speaker grilles without ruining my 9/10 shell.

>>55670429
Honestly I don't know what even made you think it would affect temperatures at all. It's not like a Thinkpad's case functions as a heatsink or part of its heatsink, it's covered in plastic which, if anything at all, already serves to insulate the thing.

>>55670203 here

>>55670215
>>55670289
i think the yellow is poorly done, look's like it was painter with a spray can, looks poorly done imo

>>55670336
>>55670361
>>55670380
>>55670429
how would one paint the keyboard? it seems like a pain in the ass to paint the keyboard, and i was thinking of doing the paint job as if you were going to paint a car, one might get better results doing it that way, sounds expensive but it will give the best results

>>55670482
I know, but i guess its because of how hot the case itself gets when on the dock or used while in bed.

>>55670512
You dont paint the keyboard. It will ruin how it feels texture wise. I guess you could rip off all the keys and spray them or something, but still.

>>55667677
Good job anon, assuming that includes shipping.

>>55670512
>i think the yellow is poorly done, look's like it was painter with a spray can, looks poorly done imo
This is less because it was done with a spray can, and more because the guy who did it sucked shit at painting things. You can get perfect results with a spray can if you don't suck at using one.

>how would one paint the keyboard?
Carefully. Personally I think I'd buy two new keyboards if I were to do this. For one of them, I'd just get the stickers off the keys and paint the whole thing, see how it goes. There -shouldn't- be much technology for the paint to reach and be able to screw up, but you never know.
Then if that ends up sucking, I'd carefully take all the keys off the second keyboard and paint them individually.

>>55670546
That would be because your T420 is no better than an average laptop at keeping itself cool. On my T520 I see desktop-tier temperatures, and only the bottom of the case gets even a little warm to the touch under full load. As far as the keyboard and palm rest are concerned, there's very little difference in how hot they get between full load and the laptop being turned off.

It might help for you to clean your heatsink and drop some new thermal paste in there too.

>>55670652
Shipping was actually free, so yes it does. I'm getting another 4Gbs of RAM from a friend too.

As a result of the recent discussion, I'm gonna order an older memepad to experiment painting on, it'll be my project for August. Would it be easier to take apart and paint a T or X series? I'm thinking it wouldn't matter too much.

How's the keyboard on the T400?

>>55665873
8470p, T420 900p, E6330s, E5520.

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>get call from mother
>her company fell for the thinkpad meme
>brings me this old cruddy T510
>"it just constantly freezes and stops responding"
>check ram usage
>3gb available to windows
>check system properties
>4gb installed
>intel has 64gb memory allocation but somehow takes up 1GB
>upgrade her ram
>system still only has 3GB
>double check system properties
>Windows 7 32-bit
>their network admin is a fucking joke and can't help her because he's too busy
>can't just wipe her laptop and install 64-bit because she's on a domain and has all her emails, mapped drives, VPNs, shares, etc

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI

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>>55669467
>not just buying it for the fuck of it and maybe flipping it
Your loss :P

I sorta regret the Pixel 2 I sold for $900 when I bought it for $530, because currently I am using a Pixel 1st gen w/ UK keyboard I got for $400. :3

>>55670749
They should be the same, magnesium finish on the outer layers, plastic on the palmrest & LCD bezels. You can peel off the paint on the exterior but the plastics have a very slight 'bumpy' texture I believe.

However, X300 has a magnesium palmrest & keyboard bezel. Look at a Z60/61 if you want to mess with the Titanium finish LCD, though those are kinda uncommon and considered desirable to collectors. Z60 uses an entirely different frame and mobo layout than 14 & 15.4" widescreen T series, I tried to swap one before, waste of time.

Not too sure on old old thinkpads but 770 & 600 ThinkPads have magnesium palmrests as well, I believe a 755/60 have magnesium palmrests. I am pretty sure 3xx, 2xx or 5xx series have plastic for the palmrests.

>>55671024
I'd bug the admin again to install 64 bit, fucking idiot, my god.

>>55669383
X220, X230

Which of the W series are available with IPS or AFFS screens?

Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)

Anybody have this card and use linux? Do you have any issues with it?

>>55671341
>Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205
I have the Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak] which uses the same driver and i have no issues.

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>>55670546
>>55670677
alright, thanks for the opinions on how to paint a thinkpad, i'm joining this guy >>55670749 and try to paint it, i might get a t420/t430 as my first thinkpad and then paint it, any ideas besides white? also does anyone here works or have done 3D stuff with the t420/t430? is it worth the HD4000 for such things?

>pic sort of related

Can someone explain why people are buying this laptop at the outrageous price???

http://ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-600-2645-with-WINDOWS-95-INSTALLED-rare-/281598217313?nav=SEARCH

>>55671501
nostalgia and not lookg at other prices/not wanting to fuck with it for it to work

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>>55671384
file transfers over lan seem to be very slow for me

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>>55671024
>cont'd.
>attempt to update intel drivers
>newest for w7 32-bit are from 2011, one year after this cpu was made
>attempt to reduce intel hogging system ram for video
>no settings in advanced graphics adapter settings
>no option in BIOS
>look up BIOS update for T510
>also ancient but newer than what's on it
>update BIOS
>still no option in BIOS to set intel HD memory limit
>boot back into windows
>only 2.9GB available to windows now
>intel hd literally taking 1.1GB to draw a fucking 1366x768 screen

JUST

>>55671501
>$26 shipping
Is this a fucking joke?

>>55671645
I think they are retarded. everything they sell is RARE VINTAGE. They are selling a D600 for $250 for fucks sake.

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>>55671459
blue :^)

>>55671728
I guess it's rare to have windows 98 installed. Look at this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/282083707656

>>55671459
>Fahrenheit

Is it worth to buy x220 for 190$ with dock?
-4gb ram
-500gb hdd
-i5 2520m
-ips
I'm looking for cheap uni laptop with possible to do a nice workstation from it at home. Will buy mure ram and ssd later

>>55671051
Looks amazing, anon. Ty

>>55671918
Will it be gud to do CAD things?

>>55669467
FLIP IT

>>55671917
Seems a good deal.

Make sure you're getting the IPS screen

>>55672037
If it's few parts maybe, but it's only integrated graphics so don't expect a miracle

If you do hardcore CADshit you might want to get a W520 or W530

>>55672393
Meh, was too late anyway.
Looks like 4 people were ahead of me

>>55672469

does the quadro on the w520 do well with emulators and old games?

>>55672613
What emulators and what old games?

Even an X220/X230 can handle anything PSX and down

>>55672705

ps2 and down, old falcom games.

really split on an x220 and x230. is an x230 worth the extra cash? its my first thinkpad and the x220 keyboard looks so cute! i've also heard you can't use 3rd party batteries on an x230

>>55671732
Nice.

>>55672760
>is an x230 worth the extra cash?
No. if you just want a nice little shitposting machine then the 20 is plenty

>x220 keyboard looks so cute
Can use it on the 30 as well

>you can't use 3rd party batteries on an x230
Don't know about that, but you should probably avoid it anyway. Better safe than sorry

Worst thinkpad you've used?

Is it worth it putting 16 gigs of ram in a thinkpad? I only have 8gb in my desktop and I get by just fine, but there's a good deal on eBay where 8gb is $38 and 16gb is $51 so I'm torn.

>>55672918
I've owned:
>T60
>X220
>T420
>T420s
>T510
>T61
>T60p
>G40
>W520
Among them, the T420 is probably my least favorite, but I'm not a fan of the X220 either. It really can't be overstated how terrible the T420 screen is, the screen bezels are hideous, and the plastic feels cheap compared to the T60 or W520. The X220 has questionable build quality, abortion-tier resolution, and is a nightmare to repaste. Hard to choose between the two.

>>55673044

do you actually will use the ram?

>>55673097
I was thinking of getting an x220 for college use.
Should I not? I'm a poorfag by the way

>>55673116
Most intensive things I do is video rendering, photoshop and gaming.

>>55673097
So what would you recommend?

>>55673149

And which thinkpad will you buy?

>>55673208
I have a t520

>>55673214

if you render, have an QM processor and want to multitask then yes

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>want a thinkpad
>tfw replacement batteries cost 70$

>>55673264
buy a third party battery

>>55673138
Not him, but I've used an X220 (with an IPS screen and SSD) for about 4 years and never had any issues with it. I actually quite like it, and wish they'd simply make the same model but with better hardware.

I find it perfectly fine for programming, Chinese cartoons, and very light games (killing floor, tf2, MOBA's, etc).

If you're buying one now, I wouldn't pay more than 275 (CAD) for one, unless it came with a sizeable SSD, and IPS screen, and 8 gigs or RAM. Even then I'd pay at most 300.

How is the amplifier in the XX20 thinkpads? Could it power HD600s to a passable degree?

>>55673820
My 220 powers my 250 Ohm DT990 Pros just fine..

More T420 1080p IPS converter kits available when?

Is the X201 compatible with an X220 battery?

>>55674142
no

>>55674166
Fug. I suppose that includes the X201s as well?

>>55674200
Yup

>>55674274
Dammit, I was looking to get an X201 or X201s over my X220, but I spent a boatload of money on a new genuine 9cell for the X220 and I didn't want to have to buy another one for the X201. That's too bad.

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>>55666557
>home and end where capslock should be

>>55674349
Well I bought an 220t after owning a 220 for a while with a couple of batteries, felt like a complete idiot when I saw that the batteries weren't compatible..

Any of you fags own/owned a W520 with the full HD screen? Was it good?

>>55674413
I have one, it's a really nice screen for media and games and other fullscreen stuff. Don't like it so much for general usage since it has this pinkish tint by default and I can't get any color profiles to work that would fix it.

>>55674413
The lcd of the fhd w520 is hands down the best TN panel I've ever used. I found the default temperature to be too cold/bluish but custom color profiles have remedied it.

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for X220T (possibly X230T) owners on windows at least, you can get newer drivers for your digitizer/touch; not sure how or if they are any better tho, you will get at least additional (differently colored?) setting window (automatically localized)

also if you don't like your brightness setting, I possibly have solution but I need to test it now
stay tuned!

>tfw no money and there's a T530 in excellent condition on ebay right now for 260 AUD

Just fuck my shit right up.

Suggestion for batteries for an X230?

Do most thinkpads not come with a vidya card and thats why they are 300~ USD?

>>55678392
Only the W series come with discrete graphics. They're workstation cards (NVIDIA Quadro) so the gaming performance is garbage too.

>>55678458
So if i bought one of these i basically couldn't game on it at all. Coding and web dev and thats it

>>55678495
You can play some older games. But if you want a Thinkpad that can play modern games, you need an X40 generation at the least. Haswell is where the Intel integrated graphics started getting good.

>>55672918
SL400
I don't even want to know how a SL500 is like.

>>55678458
>They're workstation cards (NVIDIA Quadro) so the gaming performance is garbage too.
Wrong
They're garbage because they're mobile graphics
Being workstation cards has nothing to do with it

3D RENDERING IS 3D RENDERING

>>55678458
T series can come with NVS discrete graphics as well

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>>55678495
You can play megawads for Doom 2, what other games could you possibly need?

>>55678458
You know mobile quadros are essentially just rebranded GTs right?

Quadro K2000M in the W530 performs identically to a GT650M except with more ram

>>55679700
>>55679662
Speaking of w530, I have the opportunity to get one for a good price (with a K2000M).

Could it run Battlefield 1 at low settings?

>>55678528

Not him, so Quadro and NVS are worse than HD 5500 and HD 530 for gaming? what about video with MadVR?

>>55679718
No idea senpai, it's not even out yet

Look up benchmarks for Battlefront, that would probably be pretty close

I could play BF4 at like 30+ FPS on low settings with just integrated Intel HD4000

>>55679662
>>55679700
>talking so authoritatively when you're this wrong

How embarrassing.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K2000M-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-GT-650M/m8574vsm7754

The K2000M is compute optimized and performs worse for gaming than the 650M, despite being the same (almost) GPU.

Delete your posts quickly before more people see them and laugh at you.

If you want to do videro gaymen then look into eGPUs.

Get a laptop with an NVS in it, then you can use eGPUs with the internal laptop display thanks to Optimus

Does anyone know if that works with integrated graphics too?

So I need a female DC to new-age male lenovo charger adapter. What keyword would work the system the best to find one? It's proving to be pretty fucking hard.

>>55680196
>lenovo power adapter new old
>https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Connector-Converter-Thinkpad-ThinkPad/dp/B00FYYOWVU

>>55665794

For all of those Anons who have X220s and have Windows 10 installed I've done up a guide to get the brightness keys working consistently.

Yes it's on Reddit but I took hours trying to sort this out so other people didn't have to.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4tw511/how_to_fix_your_x220_brightness_keys_under/

>>55680250
Oh boy, daisy-chaining adapters.
I guess it's something.

Hey, /tpg/. Just wanted to point out that if you have to go the SharpKeys remapping route for the *30 to *20 keyboard swap, it remaps the key for every keyboard you plug in. Happened to me for another laptop I had; it didn't have a menu key so I mapped Caps to it, but found it redundant when I got home and plugged in a real keyboard. I got around this by using
>http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2620619&postcount=18
This remaps keypresses differently per each Hardware ID. I don't think there's any botnet, but I don't have a Wireshark or anything to confirm. At least now, I can wiggle my way around wonky notebook layouts and not have it affect any other keyboard I plug in.

>>55680366
There's a much better way now anon

A modified embedded controller ROM remaps the keys on the BIOS level and makes the unmapped keys work too, meaning you don't need to touch SharpKeys or any other remapping tools, and external keyboards aren't affected

https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

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>>55680308

So I just got my first Thinkpad ever (X220)

Any recommended BIOS settings?

>>55680888
Make sure all the beeps are turned on so Thinkpad-chan can tell you good night when you turn it off

>>55681130
Fuck meant for >>55680899

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Anyone with T420 and Intel HD 3000?
I'm running manjaro, and I want to install the intel drivers.
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libva-intel-driver/
But I'm afraid it will fuck up my system.
Since using MPV with SW decoder is making CPU temps reach 80 C.

Anyone done it before?

I saw t540p with an i5-4300m no GPU for around 500$(not an american).
Do you think it's worth it, can I play gayms and can I swap the cpu for something like i7-4700mq?

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These temperatures are a bit high, no?

>>55680366
>>55680836

I love the both of you. As I switch between a HHKB and the inbuild board this was driving me nuts. Thanks.

>>55681225
please answer is it possible to swap cpu's on t540p from i3/i5 to i7

Sry if noob question, but can you add a gpu(say gt730m) to a non-GPU thinkpad

>>55681426
Yes
>>55681549
Not without changing the motherboard

>>55681241
They are fine, laptop cooling is shit

Do I keep Windows 10 or should I install Windows 7 on my X220?

>>55681575
Thanks for replying.
Do I have to change heatsink/bios or just pop the new cpu in.

For fuck's sake why is it so hard to find a t series thinkpad with a decent 1080p screen. The cheapest option seems to be the t450s and that's still gonna be at least £450-500. I'm jelly as fuck if you yanks and your cheap prices.

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so, for those who think their screen is too dim, they should try HD graphics drivers from intel site
tested on both X220 and X220T lenovo-site drivers are dimmer than intels, (fucked-up) video related - first lenovo then intel and then both

next imma test some battery, three simulations three oses total nine tests, will update later

>>55680836

>>55681305 here, looking at it now...how can you remap keys with the tool? Seems to be only for retrofitting those particular boards.

Hello /g
WHere i can buy cheap thinkad x200 ou or 201 in France?

thx

>forgot to tick the backlit keyboard option when buying my x260
welp...

how hard is it to replace the keyboard on the x260?

>try do download clean Windows 7 iso from Microsoft
>product key on bottom of Thinkpad not accepted

What the fuck is this shit
It says that because it came with Windows 7 preinstalled you can't download the iso from them

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>>55679805
Using an iGPU output with Nvidia eGPU works but will give slightly worse performance. Haven't tried Windows though.

>>55682250
Have you checked your local ebay?

>>55673044
I'm happy with my 16gb upgrade. Haven't noticed disk swapping happening once after the upgrade while with 8gb I had to be careful how many tabs I have open in Chrome when I had some virtual machines booted up.

              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        4,1G        2,2G        818M        9,0G          9G
Swap:           11G        4,6M         11G

Even when I'm not running memory intensive tasks the extra memory is put to use as disk cache.

>>55681646
Don't fall for the win10 meme

>>55681702

you can look for a t530 or an w520 a lot come with the 1080p

I bought an x220, but it doesn't have the fingerprint reader. Would I be able to install one? How are the linux drivers for it?

>>55682927
Why would you need one?
They're shit anyway

Is the Lenovo support page down? Fucking faggots, I wanted to download my drivers.

>>55682943
Wanted it for 2 factor authentication.

So what drivers do I download off Lenovo's website if I want to do a clean Windows 7 install?
The list is huge.

If I end up with a t420 with an nvidia gpu, can I fully remove it from the computer? I don't want it (no need for in on linux, and it doesn't work great on linux either) and would rather save weight + battery.

w2c a new super key and middle mouse button for my x200 keyboard??

should i just troll ebay for them?

>>55683417
The dGPU in T420 is soldered on the motherboard. You can change the CPU though.

>>55683490
Thanks, so I guess it's best to make sure I get one without a dGPU.

>>55683128
all I do is download the 'thinkvantage system update' tool, then it gives the options to download all the proper drivers and software/bloatware, which you can uncheck to not install if you wish but some of it is useful like the power manager and tablet tools, if you have a tablet, etc. or just install everything and then uninstall the junk you don't want

but this way is easier than going through the list of all the drivers and software and manually downloading and installing each thing

What's the difference between the FHD adaption kit for the t420 and one of these

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/30P-EDP-LVDS-Adapter-plate-13-3-15-6-inch-30Pin-EDP-LCD-Panel-LVDS-Connector/711871_2049168896.html

If I managed to cram one of these into my computer, would it work or am I not understnading what happens.

>>55681794
What driver version for W7 on X220t? 9.17.10.4229, right?

>>55683618
me again, the thing i linked is not for sale but this one seems the same again

http://www.xccfl.com/product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=4948&osCsid=cqrbilucpusuok6ufvnp71lrt0

>>55683591
All right, thanks.

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>>55665794
Sup /tpg/

I'm looking to buy babbie's first Thinkpad and I've found a dank looking refurbished W510 with 1080 resolution+8gb ram+i7+3 month warranty for $300. Does /tpg/ think that it would be a good buy?

I'm looking for something primarily for watching movies so FHD display and good colour gamut is crucial but size and performance is less important since I'm not much of a gaymer, price range is $500 or less, any advice is appreciated

>>55683531
Why you don't want nvidia GPU?

I know I'm going to get some shit for asking this, but here it goes anyway:

I want to buy a T series Thinkpad to replace my T61, which is starting to crap out on me. I don't want to spend a lot, but I want something that will be able to house the T61's HDD, running linux, and also another HDD to run windows, so I can mostly play some games.
By games I mean my old favourites: Portal 1 & 2, the GTA series, Postal 2 and not much else.

I'm thinking about either a T420 or a T430, with the Nvidia GPU, of course.

My question is: if I try to install GTA V on a T420 (with a 4200M), will it even work? I'm not expecting good settings, just for the game to be playable.

>>55683806
Uses power I don't want to waste because I am not using it and then I am carrying around weight I don't need.

I just have no use for one and would prefer not having one.

T460 vs T460s vs T460p

Opinions?

>>55683832
>Uses power
You can disable it.

>>55683826
You will get 2 fps. The intel HD 5500 gets 20 on lowest 720p and its a better gpu. maybe try and install it and use mods to lower textures and such even lower then default.

>>55683839
>has weight I don't want to carry around
>I have no use for it

Is it that weird to just not want something I am not going to use?

>>55683897
>going from a T61 to a T420
>caring about weight

not that the nvidia gpu even adds a noticeable amount of weight anyways

>>55683834

What do you want to do?

>>55683934
I am not the one going from a t61.

>>55683881
But the choice here is between an Intel HD 3000 and a Nvidia NVS 4200M...

Will the T430's Intel HD 4000 or Nvidia NVS 5400M make a big difference in this case?

>>55683934
I'm the one going from a T61 to a T420/T430, and I don't care about weight, I could go for a W series, if only it was cheap.

>>55683826
Be aware that T420 and T430 have 7mm height hard drive slot while T61 has the old 9.5mm one.

If you want remotely modern gaming on those models you should investigate into eGPU.

>>55683826
>>55684094
>games
>on a thinkpad

what fresh hell is this?

>>55684094
The T61 HDD is not original, it's from another, more recent, laptop, I haven't measured it, but I suppose it should fit.

Regarding gaming: GTA V is the only more recent game I'd like to play, but I won't mind if it doesn't run at all. If I can play at least IV I will be happy. And once again, it's casual gaming, I'm not expecting to go full retard for hours.

>>55684159
Who died and made you the thinkpad police? I can't play some games after a fucking day of work?

>>55683826
>Your T420 was designed to accommodate 7mm thick drives. You may be able to squeeze a 9.5mm drive into the bay but the fit will be very tight and you risk damaging either the drive or the T420 or both.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/T420-Max-Physical-Drive-Sizes-SSD-HDD/td-p/1047593

>>55684190
>>55684094
Okay, I just saw that the 9.5mm is still the current standard, thanks for letting me know. Anyway, it's not a dealbreaker, I'll buy a disk if I have to.

>>55684190
>>55684094
One more thing, if I get a caddy to replace the optical drive with a disk, then it should fit a 9.5mm one, right?

>>55684311
Yeah, mine has the OG drive in it and there is space left over

>>55683834

different uses, one has a lot of battery, the other has more multitask properties, the other is lighter, if you use dual channel all have the same graphical power

Are the keyboard keys easy to remove and put back on the T420? I bought a German one so I would like to switch the Y and Z.

What drivers should you get for a T420 with the HD+ Display? Is there some package somewhere that you can download, or do you have to pic them one and one from Lenovos website.

>>55684676
Just get Thinkvantage System Update and use that to download drivers

>>55684697
Okay, thanks.

>>55681702
>For fuck's sake why is it so hard to find a t series thinkpad with a decent 1080p screen. The cheapest option seems to be the t450s and that's still gonna be at least £450-500. I'm jelly as fuck if you yanks and your cheap prices.
I just got my refurbished T450s from
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/laptops/
shipped to the EU by a friend

$520 for the 1080p IPS version, 8 GB RAM and mechanical HDD.
I'll replace the HDD with an SSD tonight of course

Shipping was $60

The condition was like new. I recommed Lenovo's outlet based on this sample size of 1.

The keyboard takes some time to get used to, coming from a T400, but it's not that bad.

The IPS display is great, and brighter than the T460s too.

>>55667015
>thanks but I hate LCD
Lenovo doesn't sell any laptops without LCD screens

>>55684854
>what is X1 with OLED

I am considering a t420 with a 2540m and new battery for $230CDN ($176 in burger coins)

Yay or nay?

>>55683998
>>55684371
So if its a laptop to last through college (CE major) which should i go for, or should I buy something cheaper?

I figure I don't need too much power, but still want some incase I have to run solidworks or AutoCAD.

I'm leaning towards the T460, but I'm unsure if its overall better than T460s

>>55685010

It has the same specs but can have better battery life, if you have the money to burn go ahead, you could buy an t420 or t430 and a PC strong enough to run other programs btw

T460p shipped and is coming tomorrow. I'm hype.

>>55681937
It already does it. You flash it and it's mapped for the X220 keyboard. Flash the original unmodified ROM to get the X230 mapping back.

>>55682927
You;d need the fingerprint palmrest and the sensor itself, which are $10 each on ebay, no idea how well it works in Linux though

>>55683128
Honestly you don't need any.

Windows Update gets all the drivers you need. You can get anything with "drivers" from the list.

Power Manager and Hotkeys Integration is really all you need. Everything else is just bloatware.

>>55683531
It doesn't really matter. It has Nvidia Optimus so you can just use the iGPU anyway whether the dGPU is there or not, and the dGPU will stay powered off. If you're already getting a sweet deal for the laptop it doesn't really matter.

>>55683618
The RMSMajestic one is much smaller and made to fit into a specific spot in the laptop. The ones you linked are probably too big to fit inside the laptop.

>>55685292
Works flawlessly in linux on my x230. You just need to install fprintd and libpam-fprintd, IIRC. There was a little bit of fuckery to get it working for my greeter sign-on.

>>55668543
How can you tell who manufactured it?

>>55683618
>>55685362
Did they ever fix the shielding flicker issue?

>>55685430
Not that I know of

The problem doesn't occur on 's' models

>>55685442
damn it, I want an IPS for my 430 :(

Should I get a 160GB SSD or 500GB HDD x220 for the same price?

>>55685428
Look up the FRU part numbers online, the different manufacturers have different FRUs

>>55685456
Found it. For US English keyboards, the manufactures are:
45N2071 - ALPS
45N2141 - CHICONY
45N2211 - NMB
The thinkpoint module also differs between the different manufacturers as well. Chicony ones seem more sensitive.

>>55685268
>T460p
Im so sorry

>>55685455
Ssd of course.

>>55685455
no reason to have an HDD in your laptop in 2016

>noisy
>vibrations
>power hungry
>sensitive to bumps and bangs
>slow

>>55668543
Chicony is shit m8

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So... I'm about to buy a X220 to fuck around with (install Gentoo w/ Openbox and use it to shitpost and nothing else) - is there any way to determine if its got the IPS panel when the seller hasn't explicitly mentioned it? Like certain features only the IPS models got or a specific production year? [image sort of related]

>>55685712
>Like certain features only the IPS models got or a specific production year? [image sort of related]
if it's in person you can usually tell
even online pictures it's pretty easy to tell TN garbage from IPS

>>55685712
Just ask the seller

>>55685527
which one is the best? I heard ALPS was the worst

>>55685712
how'd you get your hands on that analog tv?

>>55685712
All of the tablet models are IPS.

You can also try asking for the model number and look it up on Lenovo's site. Sticker on bottom of laptop, model number is next to "PRODUCT ID: "

>>55684384
get a fingernail under the top corner and be gentle.

>>55685651
I dont mind mine, but i dont have anything to compare it to. Also apparently the different manufactuers used different colored rubberdomes iirc. Chicony is white.

>>55685753
>even online pictures it's pretty easy to tell TN garbage from IPS
Not everyone takes pictures of the thing actually running and sometimes, there's only a stock-photo...

>>55685816
If they can't tell you what type of panel it is or take good pictures you're better off not buying from that seller


you can get the panel model from the OS

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>>55685776
Sorry, that's not mine - saved it from another /tpg/ so at least it's a fellow anon's; but that's all I can tell you.

>>55665794
What's the general consensus on X61t?
I'm reading mixed opinions everywhere.

>>55685651
I never said otherwise.

>>55685832
>If they can't tell you what type of panel it is or take good pictures you're better off not buying from that seller
Well, the vast majority comes from specialized businesses that sell refurbished units from god-knows-where and I really doubt they know what to look for (or care).

>>55685712
Just ask for more photos. Namely the display tipped down a lot. If it's not inverted it's gucci.

You can also ask for a screenshot of Device Manager with the Monitors dropdown extended, if you see Wide Viewing Angle as the monitor name then it's IPS

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>>55685905
I love my x61t with SXGA, still good enough for drawing, web browsing even though it sometimes feels slow.

>>55685767
NMB

>>55685767
I have NMB, I used someone's ALPS. The switches are a little mushier on the ALPS, but the biggest difference was keyboard flex. The ALPS flexes a lot under even the lightest keystrokes. NMB is rock solid, although it could be the way it's mounted in my T430.

>>55685957
>where and I really doubt they know what to look for (or care).

They care enough about the specs they are selling because it means they can charge more per unit

>>55685973
What operating system and memory anon?
I'm thinking about buyin the real memes here (T420, T520, X220) but if the offer escapes me, a guy is offering a X61t for almost nothing.
The fact that's a core 2 duo ulv scares me.

>>55685978
>>55685976
Great. Thanks for the input.
Need to replace an X230T chiclet with an X220 kb

My dad asked me for advice on a new Windows laptop for work, (he always goes for Thinkpads) he's looking at spending around £300/$400. Any suggestions guys?

Needs to be a very capable multitasker with a decent boot-up time and battery life. No glitzy GPU or anything like that though.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>>55685973
>tfw I'm 1024x768
At least i wont get screen bubbles.

>>55685997
Windows 7 and 2gb ram.
>inb4 winblows lol

>>55686016
T530 or T430 with a SSD.

>>55686019
Then probably Windows NSA will work well.
I saw shit being converted in competent systems thanks to botnet OS

>>55686011
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CJ1ZH56/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Do yourself a favor and get the X220 palmrest. It's really not worth the trouble sanding, filing and trimming the keyboard nubs to fit.

>>55685786
>>55685832
>>55685961
>>55685988
Damn, this is harder than I thought. I've ran a couple of serial numbers on Lenovo's parts lookup site and every single one of them had a TN panel. How much do I need to spend for an IPS model anyway? Is it even reasonable to expect a good one for ~250 EUR (I'm willing to go up to 300 if it's exceptionally good)?

With my school, I can get a HP EliteBook 840 G3:
- i7-6600U
- 14" FHD
- 16 Go RAM
- 512 Go SSD

For a little more than 1 200€.

I don't find 16 Go RAM nor 512 Go SSD to be necessary and I'd like an IPS screen (15.6" would be a plus).

I can get a ("brand new") T460:
- i7-6600U
- 14" FHD IPS
- 16 Go RAM
- 256 Go SSD

For 1 100€.

Both have a 3 years warranty.

Any idea for a Thinkpad with, either the same specs as the EliteBook but cheaper, or better specs and around the same price?
Or should I go with the T460?

Thanks.

>>55686016
a more recent T or W series

SSD and a 9cell original

IPS option if he's going to be using it in many places with varying light conditions

>>55686045
>It's really not worth the trouble sanding, filing and trimming the keyboard nubs to fit.
I thought an X220T/X220 would fit an X230T without issue

fuk

>>55686189
just look for the Tablet model if you can afford it

those are all IPS

>>55686229
It's dead simple if you swap the palmrest for a X220 one, since the nubs will match the slots. But for my T430, I didn't like the T420 keyboard bezel, so I had to cut down and file the nubs until they matched the profile of the nubs on the chiclet keyboard. This is totally unessecary though.

>>55685568
God dammit. What's wrong?

>>55686299
runs hot
really just a meme

>>55686248
But I don't want the tablet model... And I really don't need the thing either way so I don't want to spend too much money on it.

>>55686286
I see. If I have trouble fitting it I will just replace the palmrest. Thanks for the advice. I thought it would be as simple as plugging in the new board

>>55686342
Can't be worse than my garbage HP laptop I've had for the past 4 years.

>>55686452
Do or do not. If you halfassedly file off the nubs and change your mind, it's going to fit loosely in the x220 palmrest.

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I feel guilty switching over from an X200T to an X230T as my Winshit work machine

I have to make an effort to unfuck it already by replacing the chiclet keyboard and the build quality overall feels much cheaper

First time really getting to know true Lenovo garbage

>>55686477
Just to make it clear, it won't fit at all without filing?

>>55679750
>using quadro drivers for gaming

>>55686513
With an x220 keyboard and x230 palmrest, that is affirmative. It will not fit without filing.

>>55686513
Absolutely not. 20 series keyboards have nubs that extend to the full thickness of the keyboard, as well as a fifth nub below the middle thinkpoint button. 30 series keyboards only have 4 nubs, and they're only the thickness of the keyboard backplate.

>>55685010
T460s > T460
The first one has its TDP increased from 15 to 25W so it will perform better. And it's better built

>>55686541
>>55686554
gotcha, thank you
I'm not too retarded and have a decent selection of tools so if I take my time I think I can pull it off.

>>55686584
It's not worth the effort. It'll look like shit if you don't repaint the metal, and can be really difficult to fit back in. Spare yourself the pain and just get the palmrest.

>>55672760
>>55672844
>is an x230 worth the extra cash?
Not really, hardware-wise it's marginally better, design is different. CPU is better, graphics may or may not be depending on model. Resolution is still the same and may or may not be IPS.

>the x220 keyboard looks so cute!
>Can use it on the 30 as well
You can, but not 100% functionality

>i've also heard you can't use 3rd party batteries on an x230
No, you can't, the batteries have chips to verify authenticity. The x220 can use the 29++ or 44++, whereas the x230 can only use the 44++ despite the same form-factor and that they're both Lenovo batteries.

>>55686584
>>55686611

It's not hard if you're not retarded and a little dab of black hobby paint and you can't see the bright metal in the tiny gap between the keyboard and palmrest.

>>55686670
>You can, but not 100% functionality
We've had 100% functionality for a while now thanks to a patched EC file you can flash

>>55686498
If you think that's true Lenovo garbage, you clearly haven't tried anything newer.

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>>55687015
oh, I know very well it gets worse

>>55687336
I personally love my X220, but it fucking creaks. My X61 never did. Considering buying an X201.

>>55684978
Can anyone comment on this? Seems like a good price to buy outright. Also has the 2540m and 900p screen resolution.

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>>55687366

>>55683663
sorry, went to sleep
lenovo - 9.17.10.3347
intel - 9.17.10.4229

>>55687413
Do you need the 2540m for anything specific? There's one with a 2520m for $130 on eBay.