AMD RX 480 launch summary, thread #5

>>55322906
The sources:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480_CrossFire/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93932-amd-radeon-rx-480-14nm-polaris/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7756/amd-radeon-rx-480-video-card-review-starting-rebellion-199/index.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72889-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-17.html
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/amd-radeon-rx-480-8gb-review/
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2496-amd-rx-480-8gb-review-and-benchmark-vs-gtx-970-1070
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/06/29/amd_radeon_rx_480_video_card_review
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/

FAQ:
>When will we get non-reference cards?
Typically, within a couple of months of launch.

>Buy this, or buy a GTX 970/R9 390?
The RX 480 is slightly better, for slightly cheaper, so go for it instead. If you absolutely need a card RIGHT NOW and cannot wait for it to be in stock, then you do not lose much by getting a GTX 970/R9 390.

>Is it worth upgrading from a [card X] to this card?
If you have something higher than a 380X, then no. If you have something like the GTX 760 or weaker, then it is worth getting this card.

>I was expecting it to beat GTX Titan X SLI! This SUCKS!
This is a $200 card. It beats older $200 cards, and is on par with older $330 cards.

>[company x] BTFO! Fanboys on suicide watch! lel, kek, and kys!
We can do that, but it is a waste of your time and energy. We can talk about the new card instead.

(2/2)

Ordered one today that'll be arriving tomorrow.
If I'm not satisfied with the stock cooler I'll be returning it within the 4 weeks that the place I ordered from allows you, even if you've used it.

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>A good launch for AMD

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>>55322906
>A good launch for AMD.

Can this play Overwatch on ultra at 4k 240hz?

>>55322948
>>55322956
(You)

>>55322976
go back to /v/

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Wait for AIBs

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>>55322906
>The card is slightly above the GTX 970/R9 390, and cheaper

3 bonus rupees have been deposited into your account.

(((((>>55322982))))))

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>>55322976
No, AMD BTFO!
It doesn't beat a $700 card, simply BTFO!

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>>55323001

>>55323001
>inc vat

lol cuck

>>55322498

>buying this dead on arrival card in EU and UK

Was considering getting this but I was expecting it to be close to 980 level performance, not 970.
Would getting a gtx 980 still be a good idea?
Currently eyeing this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127838

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The King!!

>>55322982
>10 second apart timestamp

You can't help that AyyMD's fuckup is so bad it's bringing out the hivemind.

AMD do not set the prices, except for in the US.
They cannot be held responsible for greedy governments and greedy retailers.

Ignore any 970 shills, you're paying less for less vram (and the fact that NVIDIA are shifting them en masse to clear inventory)

>>55323016
>4gb ram

Heh

>>55323034
wew he's gonna be pooing fire

>>55323044
Nothing is going to use more than 4gb anyway lol

Seems the opinion so far is...

Decent leap in performance for budget cards, stock cooler is shit, wait a month or two for third party coolers and OC editions?

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Hey can this 200$ dollar card play Witcher3 4k on Ultra with Hairworks on 60+ FPS?

if not,AMD BTFO LOLOLOLOL xD

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>>55323044
>4GB 970

>>55323056
3.5gb*

>>55323029
check ebay for 980's. there are some going for really cheap after people are selling them to upgrade to the new cards.

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>>55322906
Holy shit, crossfire 480 = GTX1080

https://tweakers.net/reviews/4709/8/amd-radeon-rx-480-crossfire-vr-dx12-en-overklok-getest-project-cars-en-the-witcher.html

>>55323029
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127838

$120 extra for 10% performance is not worth it.

>>55323064
N-no bully

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It's coming...

AMD bankruptcy imminent...

>>55323041
>it's ok when amd does it!

k

>>55322906
If the card doesnt conform to the pci-e spec, thats not a good launch for amd. Pretty sure that they wont be able to sell the card unless some major changes are made.

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Doing pretty good.

They need to sort out drivers though, DX12 performance can theoretically be a lot higher.

>>55323073
Ive never bought used tech before and I'm very cautious about buying from some random person online.

>>55323075
Yeah but I am a little iffy on the power consumption.

For anyone wondering, expect third party cards out around 12th of July, I recommend not buying reference, there's no reason to, just wait for the 3rd party. Also, PowerColor is going to release a dual 480 GPU, their new flagship, I wonder how that's gonna do.

>>55323091
But they're not

>>55323085
>tfw Kyle was right and they sell the graphics division to Intel

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>>55323075

>>55323061
Yes.
Also that this is the best price/performance card out there

>>55323085
Not even kidding this card is going to prematurely end the RX 480 and any relevance it once had.

>>55323064
Don't worry, the 150 dollar Nvidia 1050 Ti will do exactly this!

>>55323108
literally who cares? do you live in a 3rd world shithole?

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I figured something was up with the voltage curve and power consumption at stock.
This is it

>>55323085
3 GB card


Lol lol


Can't make this shit up

>>55323120
delete this

>>55323153
I doubt a retard who doesn't know that the 480 is Polaris 10 and not 11 has insider info.

>>55323106
i bought my 980 off ebay a year ago for over £100 cheaper than the store price at the time. just buy from someone who has a good reputation and pay with paypal so you're covered by ebay if someone fucks you over.

>>55323160
No one needs more than 1gb anyways. Eat it up goy

>>55323160
>muh vram that will never be used

There's a 6GB version.

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>underwhelming card
>it'll be months before I can actually get one
>Just built a new rig and I was hoping this thing would deliver on their claims of 980 tier preformance
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't buy a 970 off Ebay.

>>55323169
So should I stick with refurbished products from a company or even random people with good ratings will be fine?

I'm upgrading from a gtx 560ti to an rx 480 or a gtx 1060, whichever looks better after the 1060 releases. I don't really run that demanding of games GPU-wise, but I play a few CPU-intensive games and am wondering what a good modern upgrade for my i7 960 3.2ghz would be?

>>55323183
You don't need 6gbs though. It's either 4gbs or 8gbs. Anything in between doesn't make sense, like 3-core processors.

>>55323098
-t. Butthurt europeen that wants to crush competition with onerous regulation

Repeating my question from previous thread.

When will AMD most likely to released their 470/460 line up?

>>55323113
>retailers inflate nvidia 10xx prices
>reeee nvidia jews increasing the prices and fucking us over reeeeeeeee

>retailers inflate amd rx480 prices
>i-i'ts not amd
>it's the r-retailers

>>55323201
3.5
Shit dx12 performance
Double power consumption
Run hotter

Cmon you're not retarded anon, I expect more from a /g/ poster.

>>55323209
i5 6500 if you aren't going to overclock it

>>55323201
You really think the 970 is going to perform better in dx12 over the period of 2 years, for example?

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1060-special-launch-event-july/
>Benchlife reports that the 3 GB models would be priced around $249 US while the 6 GB models will be priced at $299 US.
Noooooooo. Literally all they had to do to bankrupt AMD was give it an equivalent price to the 480. Even making it slightly more expensive but perform much better would kill a lot of appeal the 480 had.

>>55323205
both are fine. as long as they have a good reputation then you're set.

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>>55323162
I dont know hot to delete them -=\

>tfw your wife buys a 1080 for her son but only lets you get a 480 for yourself

>>55323225
I've never claimed that NVIDIA artificially increase prices
They can set their own prices, it's a free market.

>>55323236
That's what I was looking at, yeah. Is it worth the upgrade? Or is the difference minimal?

>>55323235
>dx12
There's no way in hell I'm installing Windows 10.

>>55323183
For $300?

>>55323225
Prices have gone through the roof with the 10xx because Nvidia either can't or won't meet demand.

Different shit going on.

>>55323241
>3gb version priced like a 8gb 480
wtf njudea?

>>55323201

In case you asking for serious question and not trolling.
Lower performance with DX12 titles and maybe the upcoming Vulkan, so its less future proofs.
Unless you want to play old games then be happy with a used 970 from ebay.


Satisfy?

>>55323242
Thanks for the advice anon

>>55323183

yup the vram will never be used. That's why the 3.5gb wasn't such a blunder at anything with >PS2 textures.

>>55323241
Wait, if that's the price of the "founders edition", then some of the AIB cards will legitimately be cheaper than that. AMD could still be finished and bankrupt.

>>55323085
>192-bit
yeah nah fuck off

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>>55323241
Those prices are fine.

Nvidia's VRAM is of exceptional quality.

>>55323256
it's an upgrade that you'll notice but it's nothing crazy, cpus havent come as far as gpus in the same timespan

worthwhile upgrade though imo, if you run cpu intense games

>>55323056
nobody is ever going to need more than 2mb of hdd space lol

>>55323239
>>55323268
>DX12
>Windows 7
Pick one.

>>55323241
NVIDIA is fucking finished

Can someone sum up the merits of Polaris to me?
The name seems to be dropped a lot, but does it actually bring anything new and exciting that doesn't show up in the benchmarks?

>>55323241

Considering how bottlenecked nvidias 16nm wafer supply is you'll probably get one by the end of september for $350.

>>55323258
You will when you upgrade your CPU because if you don't some of your chip features will not be working.

>>55322906
Do newer amd cards require a mobo with uefi? I read something about the 380 needing it, but I haven't heard anything like that since I read it.

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>>55323258
>Want a GPU for games but doesn't want the best OS for games
I bet you're one of those anon who couldn't read for shit for themselves and think that spying = telemetry, also, misses the point of the telemetry being used only for microsoft account stuff, aka, not applicable when using a local account.
>Being retarded
Typical from /v/ fags leaking into /g/

>>55323315
You might want to double check their market share. AMD won the sub $400 bracket in terms of performance last gen, but Nvidia still sold more. Nvidia won't be finished for a looooooong time.

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>>55323241

This doesn't surprised me at all. >>55322942
I got tons of experience of buying hundreds of cards from both companies.

AMD is still far a better option specially when you need to buy a lot of them.

>>55323319
I cringed

How is it compare to a R9 290? Worth upgrading?

>>55323280

Yes because the 1080 non-founders edition cards are _significantly_ cheaper than the nvidia goym edition, only $700.

>>55323085
When do i get to stop playing this fucking waiting game

>>55323301
As long as it's a decent upgrade I don't mind. My CPU/GPU are old as fuck anyway, and replacing them is as much for the performance boost as it is for replacing aging hardware.

>>55323334
>telemetry is totally harmless bro
Yeah, nah. If it was totally harmless then it wouldn't secretly communicate with Microsoft even when you have everything turned off.

>>55323357
Not worth it if you have a 290

>>55323220
We do not know. We have rumoured specs, and cards are typically launched in "families", so probably less than 4 months.

>>55323339
Female pedophiles are more common than male pedophiles. Just nobody cares.

>>55323315
you do realize that the reference cards will be like $40 more expensive. it's a weird thing to do but that means the aftermarket cards will be like ~$210 and ~$250 which will put it within the same pricing as amd aftermarket cards or maybe even cheaper.

>>55323305

Vulkan is basically DX12 without win10.

>>55323359
But they are closer to $600. As usual, the higher end non reference designs are more expensive, but there are plenty that are close to $600.

>>55323380
Ok, getting a 1070 I guess

>>55323370
When you sack up and make a move.

>wait for the 1060 to see
>480x coming soon after
>wait for the 480x to see
>1060ti coming soon after
>wait for the 1060ti to see
>new generation starts

It only ends when you want it to.

>>55323379
You can't turn telemetry off, that's the point, you can just set it to send basic stuff.
Ask anyone who works in the pc repair business and ask them how good is windows 10 finding correct and updated drivers for every single device now vs how it was on 7 and 8.1.
It will literally find ANYTHING automatically, that's one of the use for telemetry.

>>55323381
>so probably less than 4 months.

Will be a reference card first too just like the current 480?

>>55323275
Blatantly false.

Now explain why the 8gb 480 scored better in games than the 4 gb

>>55322906
I've got a R9 290 with a reference cooler in my system, is this worth the upgrade? How much could I sell my 290 for now?

>230 before tax
>have to buy two of them
>game needs to have dx12 support otherwise the card is meh
Nah, I bought a 1070 for $481 after tax instead. Costs less than dual 480's and doesn't need dx12 to run well. You're a fool if you buy this.

>>55323153
480 is poolaris 10 though

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>>55322906
I currently have a R9 270X mated to a FX 6300.... I been wanting to upgrade to a better GPU so should I get this? or should I wait or buy something else?

>>55323220
I saw in one of the reviews today that they were being launched mid-july and late-july for 470 and 460 respectively (or maybe vice versa)

>>55323168
>I can't understand simple binning
He didn't confuse anything, unlike yourself. All the Polaris 10/11 dies are running at higher voltages because AMD didn't do any in depth clock binning after validation.

AIBs will do clock binning themselves and bring voltage down.

>>55323453
get this because AMD should have some new tech for their driver overheas problems

>>55323445
just get an aftermarket cooler for it.... the RX 480 isn't going to be much of a substantial upgrade from your current card unless you really think TDP matters that much to you

>>55323424
>It will literally find ANYTHING automatically, that's one of the use for telemetry.
That's nice. I can find drivers on my own, so I'd rather not have Windows sending mystery data to MS whenever it feels like it.

>>55323160
>nVidia fucks up again and doesn't want another 3.5gb scandal
>Sell it as a 3gb card instead
They knew they couldn't get away with it again and now its like they are admitting the 3.5 was a fiasco too.

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This is quite sad.

>>55323445
no it's not worth it, it wouldn't even be an upgrade, it'd be a sidegrade.

4 GIG OR 8 GIG VIDEO CARD BREHS?

>>55323433
That is impossible to tell. AMD may or may not launch with reference cards for its mid and low tiers.

>>55323445
For the price and the hassle, probably not worth it.

I still want my AMD, shitpost all you want.

>>55323479
Its ok anon, if you want to feel like "muh power user" its great an all, but for those 99% of people who don't, it works just better everyday.
Enjoy your no dx12 benefits I suppose.

>mfw GTX 980ti is $410 murican

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-DirectX-12-06G-P4-0998-KR-6GB-384-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-/291727190812?hash=item43ec4bab1c:g:TtAAAOSwh-1W5Ciy

>>55323478
Noise isn't a problem, it's mostly the heat. Not really looking for a performance boost.
>>55323492
>>55323501

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>>55323491

Why the fuck 390 got so many gain against 970 these days?

Like holy shit, WTF!? FUCK YOU /g/!

>>55323317

HDR
2 pass encoding for better streaming quality
better crossfire scaling
dp 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b
dx12 Conservative Rasterization (RX480 is now the only card with full blown dx12 support)

>>55323526
the 480 is a power hungry hot pile too, just don't bother, if you really want to eat shit then wait for the aftermarket cards

>>55323334
spying and "telemetry" are the same thing, idiot.

>>55323532
>nvidia gimping drivers is a meme guise!

>>55323153
literally only 2 reviewers said that they had seen this "pcie wattage draw"
42 others didnt even saw this also tom being one of those i guess he is about to return to his days that he was actually saying a gtx260 was faster than a 4870

>>55323568
You should look at a dictionary before spouting nonsense anon.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160627PD207.html
>With AMD aggressively pushing into the mid-range and mainstream sectors, Nvidia has moved forward the releases of GeForce GTX 1060 products by a month and is likely to reduce their prices to make them more competitive.

>>55323556
Doesn't it only take 75W? I might wait a while to see. Any other recommendations for my situation?

>>55323583

>Turn telemetry off
>It still keeps sending data
>That's not spying

Why do people keep saying its a $200 card when its $240?

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>>55323581

>1) The RX 480 has passed PCIe compliance testing with PCI-SIG. This is not just our internal testing. I think that should be made very clear. Obviously there are a few GPUs exhibiting anomalous behavior, and we've been in touch with these reviewers for a few days to better understand their test configurations to see how this could be possible.

>2) Update #2 made by the OP is confused. There is a difference between ASIC power, which is what ONLY THE GPU CONSUMES (110W), and total graphics power (TGP), which is what the entire graphics card uses (150W). There has been no change in the spec, so I would ask that incorrect information stop being disseminated as "fact."

>We will have more on this topic soon as we investigate, but it's worth reminding people that only a very small number of hundreds of RX 480 reviews worldwide encountered this issue. Clearly that makes it aberrant, rather than the rule, and we're working to get that number down to zero.

>>55323583
You should grow a brain

>>55323525
for 30 dollars more you can get a card that blows it away completely in the 1070... why bother

>>55323618
4gb version is $199

>>55323592
aww yiss

time for the actual good card to come out.

>>55323596
they went over spec on PCI-E power draw, its taking something like 86W instead of 75W

might brick your motherboard

Can I run this card? I have a CMPSU 700-GEU PSU

Even leddit is shitting on this card.

What a failure.

>Some thaifag got their card first for a review.
>What they did is butcher the card and add a custom cooler then OC it to beat 1070.

Based Asian.

>>55323556

>power hungry

it literally uses the energy of 3 light bulbs if you run furmark 24/7. At this point power consumption has just become a meme.

>>55323639
you need to go back

>>55323618
The 4gb is $200, the 8gb is $240.

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>>55323337
you might want to rethink your statement..

this is what nvidia told their own investors about their userbase..

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>>55323596
164W on average. That's about as much as 1080, except 1080 performs 80% better than 480.

>>55323606
Read again you nerd, you can't turn telemetry off, just set it to send basic data.
>>55323625
I already did that, and I know that basic crash app information isn't the same as sending your chinese cartoon porn habits to microsoft

>>55323661
>muh sekreit klubhaus xdDD

>>55323671
how did they manage that?

>>55323592
>and is likely to reduce their prices to make them more competitive
>AMD forces Nvidia to reduce prices
I don't see any downsides to this. AMD still actually did some good even if the 480 was over hyped.

>>55323684
kys waste of space

>>55323472
im skeptical on how drivers are going to make this card much better they can help but i feel like its settling on something that may never come... in my years owning my 7870/270X I have seen drivers completely turn around from catalyst to crimson but really now how much better are these AMD drivers going to get?

>1070
>1080
>480
Beta cards for beta cucks.
Wait for 1080 Ti or 490x, or whatever name they'll choose.

>>55323698
you first, lad

>>55323623
and that pretty much covers it up..

i bet my virgin ass that it was an shilling attempt 290x days

>>55323684
you really have to

>>55323652
except it's inefficient as fuck and you're defending it because of a non sequitur, your bias is painfully obvious

this card fucking sucks, they knew they had a dud all along that's why they didn't allow reviews until the day of the release

>>55323708
I don't browse reddit, so I don't have to do that.

>>55323670
And? Nvidia still has much higher market share than AMD. Even the Steam hardware survey shows this.

>>55323684
Ironically that used to actually mean something, but now I'd actually rather go to reddit than 4chan.

>>55323581
Gee, I wonder how many reviewers actually measure pcie power draw rather than just measuring the power from the wall.

>>55323705
Oh yeah, well what if I buy a 390, what does that make me?

>>55323044
>4

>>55323693
its simple they didnt

literally if you check the rest of the reviews when they oced the card they couldnt even pass 163watts
yet somehow toms as always found a way to have a stock card drawing power higher than a oc one..

>>55323738
Retarded. Unless you're getting it for real cheap.

>>55323726
>>55323719
I'm just gonna stay, and you buttblasted faggots are gonna have to deal with it

I've got an FX-6300 and GTX 760. Good upgrade to get RX-480 8GB or bottlenecked by CPU?

Idk if I should buy this card if it's going to brick my motherboard

I'm better off buying a 980 ti to cover the cost of a new motherboard.

>>55323705
I'm a poorbetafag who wants a 480.

Yet I'm sick of all those fags who buy a 1070 and claim they're obscenely rich.

>>55323734
did I grow up or did 4chan get worse?

>>55323733
you miss the point dude
the TAM amd is going is the same TAM that nvidia says they have the largests userbase the 70% of the market...
also steam survey is so accurate that it has a 360 as the most popular amd card...
not to mention it doesnt have a single 390 or x or whatever on it..

>>55323765

RX 480 is far inferior to the NVIDIA GTX 760

>>55323765
This card is so shit there's no way it'll be bottlenecked by anything, a Phenom II will run it

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>>55323639

>See leddit thread
>Beside review thread is thread with "I hate europe" in the OP

KEK'D HARD! YUROSHIT!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

>>55323592

>is likely to reduce their prices

Even the dumbest person could come to that conclusion. The question is: can they? the 1080/1070 are in super short supply and not because they are selling like hotcakes but there were just few of them to begin with.

It is hard to imagine that nvidia can divert more 16nm wafers towards a 1060 and keep the prices low.

>>55323772
both

>>55323217
What's the matter with 6gb? Because it isn't 2,4, or 8 it just magically loses 2gb?

>>55323785
(You)

>>55323736
gee i wonder how he managed to have a lower total power draw from 99% of the reviews yet somehow he is the only one that actually found a bug lol
doesnt really fit the whole narrative does it now

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>>55323491

>>55323795
It's like 4gb + 2gb

>>55323781
>you miss the point dude
And you miss mine. My point is AMD SHOULD dominate the sub $400 price point last generation, but they didn't because Nvidia has better marketing.

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>>55323750
Sorry, replicated by TPU.

>>55323795
Its because 3.5 x 2 would make 7GB and that isn't user friendly

>>55323491
>>55323818
Are you actually using that heap of shit as an example?

It has fucking physx tied into its physics engine

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>Nvidia gimp 9 series card for their 10 series
>Rx Poo in Loo still lose

AMD is done for good this time.

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>>55323818
>a game where a 390x loses to a 970 by 30fps
>relevant

>>55323787
I will take that as a "Yes, get the 480" and thank you for the advice

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>>55323750
PCper numbers reach 155W.

Great card. Beats the snot out of the 3.5, is quite cheaper and uses less power

>>55323818

I still don't get it the tech behind Project CARS engine.
Can someone explain it to me?

>>55323855
t. filthy weaboo pedophile

>>55323870
It was made to only power team green and not team red

>>55323817
Holy shit. We have an actual shill here. How much are you being paid?

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>>55323750
No other review site out there measures power as accurately at Tom's. There is nothing wrong with their test methodology for measuring power draw across all rails.
The RX 480 is drawing way more voltage than necessary for its stock clocks, and its showing. Its pulling an average of 80w from the PCI-E slot, with spikes up to 150w.

There may be an issue with their test sample in particular causing it to pull this much off of the board instead of the connector, but regardless their measurements are accurate.

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>>55323765
not really reccomended for something as wimpy as fx6300

>>55323869
>>uses less power
no, see >>55323837

>>55323869
>Beats the snot out of the 3.5
Nah, it's pretty equivalent to it on the whole.

>>55323765
I would also like an answer, only mines an i7-2600k, and I don't wanna waste money getting more card than I can use.

>>55323551
Thanks.

>>55323837
i literally said 163 watts
tpu didnt pass it
>sorry replicated it
epic

>>55323870
It has physx as its main physics engine and on top of that is intentionally gimped because nvidia paid for a good chunk of its development.

>>55323888

I know that, but someone might already test it what's wrong with the game engine and tell it why it relied so much on Nvidia cards.

I'm just curious.

>>55323828
and they are doing it now so?

>>55323888
checked

>>55323445
I got my 290 when I was really into vidya, but now all I use is Photoshop on Windows, blender and krita on Linux. I also bought overmeme a few days ago, but I'm no longer looking for the best quality or what not.

The thing I hate about this card is the heat that sits in the room I keep it in, and the insanely loud fan.

Having said that, what would be a nice downgrade?

>>55323902

Would you then recommend upgrade to i5 and motherboard and later get RX-480?

>>55323896
everything is a conspiracy against AMD though

>>55323902
>tfw fell for the 4460 meme
is it not worth it upgrading to 480 then?

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>>55323924
There's hardly a difference between an average of 163W and 164W.

If you're talking about peaks, you're completely retarded and should take a class on electronics.

TPU's card easily peaks at numbers higher than that too.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/22.html

And so does hardware.fr's. Pic related.

Fuck off shill.

>>55323940
Uhh, the cards just launched. We can't make any judgements about the market share until we actually see some numbers in the future when we get to see the impact the 480 has.

>>55322916
What are the benefits of 480 4GB over 970 4GB?

tfw im still on a radeon 6770 hd

>>55323896
no other site out there managed to have such a power draw THATS THE PROBLEM
tom showed a wattage that other has while they oc the card and he had it on stock
and above this he actually had a lower total system consumption from almost anyone

his results are stupid unless is review it on a laptop

>>55323965
How do you manage to build a card on a smaller node that consumes more power than a card 80% faster than it? What the fuck? And why are people defending this shit.

>>55323980
The 480 4GB is actually 4GB and cheaper

>>55323965
lol you mad bro? :p

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>$229 for 8GB

>>55323980
there isn't. the 4gb 480 is slower than the 8gb 480 and the 8gb 480 barely beats a 4gb 970.

>>55323980
the 480 is faster than the 970

>>55323952
>>55323963
you might as well wait for 1060, Nvidia drivers strain CPU less. I expected AMD to fix it with polaris, but nope.

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Why you guys are so over analyzing a card that basically just an equivalent of last gen Nvidia 960/AMD R380 card?

This is a just another mid range 1080p card.

>>55323980
Read
>>55323235

>>55324000
I would say wait until there are third-party models to come out for the 480 since there seems to be better results with those.

>Cutting its price by $100 doesn't make it impressive.
>Cutting its price by $100 doesn't make it impressive.

How bad are nvidia and their cucked hardware sites panicking right now lmao

>muh power draw
>muh no efficiency gain
>muh watts
>who needs 4GB more vram?
>muh overclocking on a reference model

>>55324016
the RX 480 is a high end card for a low price

>>55324011
I'm also considering getting the 1060 since Nvidia doesn't get gimped, but the price is what will matter most to me.

>>55323980
+Price might be a little lower
+You effectively get 0.5 GB more vram
+Better DX12 performance
-AMD drivers
-only hot/loud reference cards available at the moment

>>55323965
>192W
>that means over 100W is pulled from a single pcie slot
RIP mobos

>>55324016
it's 40% better than the 380 retard.

>>55324037
It's said to be out in July or so, btw (Me)

>>55323980
You gain .5gb of VRAM, it uses slightly less power, is substantially faster in DX12 and has a bunch of new shit like opengl 4.5 and HDMI2.0b.

It's also a lot cheaper

>>55324030
Let me help you.

>>>/v/

>>55324030
except the card is slow as fuck and everything it competes with is already out of sale, so why the fuck would they care?

>>55323985
Plenty of other sites have the same ballpark figures. Grasping at straws and outright denial can't change the facts.

The RX 480 is sucking down power at stock clocks, more power than the GTX 1070 .

>>55323635

Please respond someone

Should I get a reference 480?

I'm not OCing it and the benchmarks look fine for what I want. My 7850 is struggling with fps even at low settings on new games, so I just want a decent new card. I'd rather not wait another month for aftermarkets unless I really have to.

>>55324036
a card replaces 380/x
literally a mid tier
4chan evolves it into high end
literally quality shitshilling
i guess 490 will be enthusiast and the x will be univerasalius

>>55324060
I have 980 TI on single PCI-e slot motherboard and it works great

What's the issue

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>>55324037

$250 for 3gb
$300 for 6gb

>>55324016
Because it's all there is to talk about really.

AMD has shifted the conversation away from the enthusiast cards.

The conversation won't snap back until Vega.

>>55324092
you can

>>55324036

So if 480 a high end than that's make the upcoming 390, 390x and Nano replace what cards?

>>55324063

In term of last gen LINE UP not performance, you retard.

>>55323635
I think you could run the card, but it's
1. Better to do research yourself
2. Better to wait for third-party models with better cooling and maybe power consumption

>>55323160
Kek wat. 3GB HBM2 right?
If not I'm not sure that it will even be able to run 1080p high settings properly lol
Especially with a 192-bit bus width... wow... i... no words, only Jimmies now

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>>55324092
Hello

>>55324106
Looks like I'll be getting the 480, thank you for the info.

>>55324099
Your 980 Ti actually draws power from the 6/8 pin connectors on the card.

RX 480 pulls 192W from a single PCI-E slot and a 6 pin connector, which are designed for a power draw of 150W max.

>>55323980
>more expensive in EU
>Slower than a 2 year old nvidia card and in some games a 1.5 year old amd card
>4gb version is slower than 8gb card
>doesn't overclock for shit
>runs hotter than a 1080
>draws more power than a 1070 and 970

there really isn't a reason to buy one. i just bought a used 980 a couple of hours ago due to the disappointment i had with this new card.

I'm in the hospital right now because the 480 fans literally ripped off my finger then burned down my house, please guys, do not buy this card

>>55324111
>>55324120

Thanks, I was confused because corsair links me to GS700 when I search for CMPSU 700-GEU, I don't know if they're the same but they look it.
Thing is I don't know how much amps it needs on the +12V rail, just watts tells me nothing

>>55324077
yeah like the french one above...
literally on a stress test 192..

6pins goes for 75 pcie rated for maximum 83 watts
even if you stretch out and use military grade capacitors from a fucking nuclear facility you cant draw 40 freaking watts more its impossible on any level the rails simply cant provide such a demand only an idiot will think that

Welp... if there's any truth to the leaks on the 1060, it'll be MSRP of $250 for the 3GB 192-bit BUS width, using GDDR5.
Which means the 6GB will likely be $300-350
Which means it's going to be useless. Good job nVidia.
This year might actually turn out to be a recovery and market grab year for AMD. Noice.

>>55324161
>in EU
Nobody gives a shit about you faggots, import from the US.

>>55324135
remember: the reference nvidia cards are more expensive. the aftermarket ones will be like $30 cheaper.

>>55324167
You're welcome. You can always just get it and if your PC catches on fire, then you know if you can run it.

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>>55324166
>480

That's what you got from buying Nvidia.

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>331 EUR
aye, what are the reasons to buy this shit again??

>>55324202

If it draws too much it can just fry other components and I won't have any money to replace them so I really need to be certain

>>55324184
A 240ish 8GB RX-480 sounds better than a 220ish 3GB 1060 for me, but I'll keep it in mind.

>>55324184
You mean the aftermarket reference equivalent will be $30 cheaper and every other AIB card will be equal up to $100 more expensive than the founders edition.
Just like the 1070 and just like the 1080

>>55324216

To thinks if you actually born in the right country.

>>55324218
Well let's hope everything will be fine then

>>55324216
Its 219 euros in Germany

The best part about the RX 480 are the open source Linux drivers, which almost parallel AMDGPU Pro and work without problems

Of course neo-/g/ doesn't care about that
>muh DX12
>muh windings

>>55324216
what are the reasons you live in your shitty 3rd world country instead of the consumer's dream tht is the US?

>>55324156
So?

Powerdraw, wattage, whether its getting its power from a PCI slot or connector are completely meaningless for a consumer.

Unless they can prove that it has literal manufacturing defects, the only people who care about that stuff are nvidia friendly hardware sites who are reading from the script nvidia PR sent them weeks ago that told them about the 480's shortcomings.

>>55322916
>>Buy this, or buy a GTX 970/R9 390?
>The RX 480 is slightly better, for slightly cheaper, so go for it instead. If you absolutely need a card RIGHT NOW and cannot wait for it to be in stock, then you do not lose much by getting a GTX 970/R9 390.
If you buy a 970, you lose DX12 performance and VRAM quantity. If you buy a 390, you lose significant efficiency.

>>55323209
>>55323256
That i7 is still decent, no need to upgrade unless you're unsatisfied with its performance. You've waited this long, so wait until the Fall to see what Zen offers and what happens with Intel pricing.

>>55323357
Read OP, no.

>>55323453
This or an unreleased card 470/1060/1050. Sell your 6300 and get an 8350 if your mobo supports AM3+

>>55323902
>>55323952
FO4 is a CPU outlier. As you can see, even the 970 sucks on an i3 or locked i5. Quit "muh drivers" meming

>>55323911
480 is fine. OC your CPU if you haven't already; I mean you paid extra for the unlocked version.

>>55324094
Got the money? Buy it.

While you niggers are bickering about prices, the card is currently sold out everywhere

https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/

>>55324242
which one?? the 4GB or the 8GB?? actually, doesn't matter.. won't buy reference anyways since need dvi for secondary monitor


so, reference cards gonna be more expensive or??

>>55323495
4 if you don't plan on using crossfire, 8 if you do

Is there anywhere left to buy these in the US?

Amazon, newegg, and best buy are sold out.

>>55324270
I thought the 480 was supposed to have the supply and not be choked by a shitty manufacturer like Nvidia's cards.

>>55324060
>Total system power consumption just means the GPU only is pulling power
Really anon? I mean the fans, cpu cooler/fan and HDD/SSDs and mobo, CPU, and RAM all pull at least 10W of power anon, and it's more like $70-130W depending on what all you have in your system.
Try it yourself, use a multimeter to determine power draw on your entire system without your GPU, then repeat it with your GPU.
That's the one thing none of these sites have shown, is the baseline power consumption of their test systems.

>>55324270
>sold out

thats just the impatient immature demand, which will get buyers remorse sooner or later

>>55324311

More cheaper cards, more demands

The same reason why under $80 GPU still being made and sold more than $500 GPU.

>>55323000
I'm willing to pay premium for cards that can sustain >1500/9000, but if the prices approach $300 the only thing keeping me from saving for a 1070 are the companie's driver histories. The other factor is DX12 becoming mainstream, where AMD won't have much in their hands for optimization.

>captcha is 300
Wish I wasnt on my phone right now to post it.

>>55324311
There was enormous supply, demand was just incredible.

>>55324331
>thats just the impatient immature demand, which will get buyers remorse sooner or later
cryingnvidiaman.webum

>>55324317
that's gpu only power consuption in the chart idiot not total system power consumption

>>55324349
>buying reference card for 300 + jewro
>not ending up with buyers remorse once the OC models come out
pick one

>>55324259
>it's completely meaningless that a card might draw 100W from the PCI-E slot that isn't designed for such wattage
Yeah, I like frying my mobo too.

>>55322906
>$370 Canadian
What the actual fuck, that's like $285 American

Fuck this gay country

>>55324311
Unlike the 1080, whose buyers are like 1% of consumers and the production process is slowed down because of the GDDR5X, the demand for the 480 is simply huge.

>>55324317
>That's the one thing none of these sites have shown, is the baseline power consumption of their test systems.
That's because all the measurements that have been posted in this thread have been those measured directly from the graphics card, genius.

>>55324342
I'm sure there was pajeet

>>55324365
you do realise that you are actually suggesting that somehow amd is pulling 25 more watts that pcie is capable of providing?

the maximum we saw was 164 from tom
then this french site comes and adds 25 more watts !
LOL

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>>55324385
someone needs to pay taxes for refugee and old people healthcare fa.m.

PSA

Not only Kyle was right all along other sources confirm Reference design of the RX480 will damage your system if you overclock and more

Not meeting the stand of PCI-E and will result into international trading ban if not fixed immediately

BTFO

>>>55324322

>>>55324322

>>>55324322

>>55324423
Yeah, power consumption tends to go up when you overclock the GPU.

A difficult concept to grasp, but I'm sure you can do it.

>>55324437
>implying everyone overclocks their hardware

Do you think everyone flash tunes their cars as well?

>>55324437
fa.m, my MB costed 120 jewro back in the day.. wtf AMD? not only are you overpriced shit, you actually want to damage my other parts?

>>55324379
>living in euroland
I'm so sorry anon. Reference cards aren't too bad this time around. OC will be mediocre. Most people probably won't notice a difference between ref and aftermarket

>>55324437
(You)

>>55324435
Fuck that I'll just drive across the border

>>55324423
164W is already above what 6pin+pcie is rated for (75W+75W=150W). a graphics card can pull more than what pcie is rated for but doesn't mean it's good for the mobo

>>55324471
need DVI port so I have to wait no matter what. Will aftermarket be more expensive?? I would be willing to cash in 300 jewro for this, but notice the reference card already costs 331 ffs >>55324216

oh well, will probably just get a 970 if they try to jew me

>>55324467
it's fud

>>55322906
>>>/v/
>>>/biz/

Fuck off

>>55324491
It doesn't matter for shit so long as it's not pulling it from the mobo.
A 6-pin will be happy to push a hell of a lot more than 75w.

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Thanks amd

>>55324491
actually its will withing the limit (2 watts less)
but having 25 watts more than its capable if delivering would have triggered a hard shut down since the bios would have consider it a leakage

yet somehow they manage to continue

its just a stupid review and nothing more just like the tot video from earlier today showcasing the 970 exoc being 30% faster than a 980 while having 50 fps more than the rest of the reviews of this 970

>>55324555
>Sweden yes

whenever I'm depressed about my cucked country, there comes a swedish bro to lift my mood

>>55324563
>but having 25 watts more than its capable if delivering would have triggered a hard shut down since the bios would have consider it a leakage
ITT: People who know nothing about tech trying to talk about tech.

>>55322993
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fuck off faggot.

So what I'm getting is that there STILL isn't an affordable solution for 1080p 60fps?

JUST

>>55324437
>Not meeting the stand of PCI-E and will result into international trading ban if not fixed immediately

You're retarded and need to kill yourself. 295x2 was out of spec for its power draw and hardly anyone even complained.

>>55324555
don't forget to pay your bull, Sven

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>>55324555
Did you really have to pick the most expensive one on the site?

>>55324546
Does it get it from the motherboard or from the connector?

what can the 8gb 480 do that the 4gb 480 can't do?

>>55324545
>technology isn't technology
>let's talk about pooing in the loo instead

This board is utter garbage, I don't even know why The Falcon still comes here

WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST ADD ANOTHER 6 PIN AND MAKE IT 225W

IT WOULD LITERALLY DESTROY THE 980 IF THEY DID THAT

>>55324491
Wasn't that GTX 960 Strix absolutely pounding the PCIe slot with more than 75W draw? That can't be good for longevity.

>>55324585
ITT please tell us more

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Yes.
Now I could play this game.

>>55324646
There is nothing in the PCI-E slot measuring the power draw.

>>55324632
Board partners, my friend. They will deliver us from this reference shit to comfortable mediocrity.

>>55324242

Where faggot I want to buy one at that price.

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>>55324643
147W max in furmark. Gaming power peak no more than 130W.

So it should be at 75W or below even in furmark.

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>>55324677
oh really there is nothing eh

>>55324632
Probably so OEMs can pair it with their shitty 350w psu. This way, the card will sell a lot. When cards with third party coolers get released you'll probably see 8-pin and dual 6-pin versions.

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tears of joy

>>55324731
Indeed, there isn't.

Thanks for proving me right with your picture.

>>55324584
oh back to /pol/ you go you MOTHERFUCKER, sweden is perfectly fine, FUCK OFF

>>55324632
>8pin power
>dvi
>non-crappy heatsink and fans
Is there a reason NOT to get an AIB 480 now?

>>55324671
This.I waited so fucking long for my new rig and still waiting for AIBs.All those single player games that are waiting to be played.

>>55322906
Hey Falcon, GTX 1060 was leaked, although the source is Chinese so I'm taking an extra grain of salt for this one. Where do you think it'll end up with regards to the 480? Same/higher price point? I've never been a fan of AMDs TDPs and want to get together a silent media rig sometime this year.

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>>55324292
>>55324709
>>55324516
At mindfactory.de .
I also got me DVI to HDMI adapter, It will probably work.

>>55324719
Try again
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html

The 960 Strix completely abuses PCI-E slots, far worse than the RX 480.

>>55324759
Wait till Nvidia adjust their drivers for DX12.

>>55324516
>will probably just get a 970 if they try to jew me
Aren't AMD's cards usually significantly more expensive anywhere except the US? Wait until Nvidia's 1060 reveal in a week to make a purchasing decision. Of course supply of 1060 is unknown, so prices may exceed MSRP

>>55324802
Imagine all those cooked Nvidia cards...

>>55324763
PCIe PRSNT# signal is the one that measures the power draw in order to keep the harmonics in check

but you should have know that already since it exists from 1.0

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>>55324766
>bashes /pol
STFU cuck, /pol is one of the most visited 4chan boards idiot

g is basically irrelevant and it will be even more irrelevant once those GPU threads start disappearing.

Why do people still recommend 1060 with its >192-bit ?

>>55324802
soon™

>>55324839
It's getting 192bit bus?
Haha oh wow.

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>>55324801
Peaking over 225w straight off of the slot.

>b-b-but muh spec
>muh bios gonna stop it
>t-they're gonna lose PCI-E accreditation and get sued guys!

Desperate Nvidia shills, everybody.

>>55324833
>hot plug detect
>power draw measurement
kek'd hard

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>>55324802
>hide Directx 12 threads
>ignore Directx1 2 benchmarks
>do not reply to Directx 12 posters

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>>55324800

>Nicht mehr lieferbar