This is a thread about mechanical keyboards
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Switches are subjective. Try a switch tester.
Ignore all "switch guides".
thinking about trading in my pok3r for a TKL layout..
60 percent makes my hands feel cramped at times.
Looking for a budget mechanical keyboard with least resistance possible. From what i've read it seems that either red or black is the way to go (don't know much about green).
>budget mechanical keyboard with least resistance possible
Then you should go for a rubberdome.
I've used rubberdome lighter than reds.
Your other choice would be some light Topre but it is nothing close to "budget".
I see some people in here mentioning how they have 3 or 4 different mechanical keyboards all in the budget to average range ($80-120). Why not just get one nice one instead? Do you guys just like to have one in each location (work, home, etc)?
Well I'm not really talking about people with just one ~$100 keyboard, just the ones with like 3+ of them. That being said, more expensive keyboards can be nice for their full programability.
That's actually gateron clears which are 35g linear switches
If you're willing to scour taobao you can easily find sub-$50 mech boards with cherry clones. Of course you shouldn't expect superb QC and backlighting that lasts more than a month, gaterons themselves are pretty good quality for a chink knockoff and reportedly smoother than cherry mx
Show him this
His precious macro keys and some others are rubberdomes :^)
I should have never bought the KC60 off massdrop. Completely shit:
- most of the keys are not consistent, some are mushy some are fine, absolutely ruins it for typing or playing games when some keys work just fine and then you hit a couple that are noticeably mushy, worse than a fucking rubberdome
- randomly the fucking thing starts typing the wrong keys, ex: q = 0, k = g, etc, reconnecting it fixes it temporarily
I should have just spent $120 on a Leopold and called it a day, rather than 3 fucking months on a shitty keyboard put together by chinese children.
All I know is the fucking $65 Das Keyboard II I picked up off ebay feels way better and is consistent across the entire keyboard. If I can find another on ebay for a similar price I'm ditching this pos.
Does that not seem like a rational thing to do?
me too anon, me too.
at the recommendation of another guy from mkg, i ordered this in pic.
it's a rubberdome tenkeyless with a trackpoint and 3 mouse buttons. called ibm spacesaver ii. more specifically rt3200.
maybe in the next few months ill mod a mechanical keyboard with a trackpoint from an old thinkpad laptop.
Looking to get my first mech keyboard, but the only one I tried before was some display corsair so do you guys recommend buying one of the switch testers for 15 or just diving into one based off reviews?
i got a kul which is like 130 and after this im getting a novatouch and then a 60% in cherry and topre switches so maybe like 4 boards
then i want one like that, like a nice custom board like the tgr jane
that shit was nice, i wish i couldve gotten one
My dad started working with computers back in the 80s and has expressed nostalgia for the IBM Model M, so I was thinking of getting him a Unicomp Ultra-Classic USB. He's said that NKRO is not an issue for him, and they're going on sale on Monday.
On a scale of yes to no, how good of an idea is this?
Convertible 2 came out recently.
They haven't made a TKL in awhile, maybe we get a new revision soon?
No greens, just blues.
Can filco switches be opened without soldering?
If so, you could easily change springs.
You're in luck!
"for a while". I don't do that anymore. The task then becomes actually finding a mechanical numpad.
I really wish most boards available around didn't have such janky designs. RK has the most ass font possible. CM boards are full of ugly branded keys. Razer is razer. I'm almost about to buy another Das.
Get the tester. I was nearly ready to order clears but ended up liking greens much more after trying them.
Though i guess it depends on how much you're planning on spending. If you want an expensive board a tester is worth it to make sure you really like the switches.
If he's a gaymer it makes sense if he want extra macro keys with the added function of a numpad
Otherwise it's also convenient for those who do data entry and have to click around a lot (assuming right handed) or the numpad shortcuts
Woops, you posted an image of a red instead of a green.
Lemme fix that for you.
Does anyone here have experience and opinions on Kailh Blue switches? I have a friend offering to sell me a keyboard on the cheap. He says they're quite nice, and I trust his opinion to be his actual thoughts on the keyboard. But I'm wondering if they're worth spending my money on.
Keyboard is a rosewill rgb80 and I'll be upgrading from a failing Logitech g110.
(This will be my first mechanical btw)
I have Kailh Blue switches in a Keycool 84. It has PBT keycaps so that will alter my experience with them.
I like the feel of them more than Cherry MX Blues. Cherry MX Blues are so crispy. It also helps that Kailh Blue switches are slightly hevier than your average Cherry MX Blues.
With that said, there is one key (the Fn button) has the same tactile feeling, but doesn't make the clicky sound. I cannot say whether this is the result of the Kailh switches, or a reflection of Keycool's quality control.
looking for a keyboard (qwertz) that does not have the metallic reverb when you release the switches a bit quicker or hit them with slightly more force. think that effect is referred to as filco ping?
I had a LK30 and my ears were to sensitive as it had said metallic/tinny reverb.
I just bought an Asus Strix as per >>51571802
did I really fuck up?
Never had a mechanical keyboard, using a stock hp one.
This any good? Any for similar price?
The bottom row is nonstandard, so you'll have trouble replacing those keycaps.
Aside from which, gaymen shit is generally shunned around here since it very often has bad quality control and sub-par build quality and you can very often do better for the price.
Aside from which, that thing is ugly as shit.
>The bottom row is nonstandard, so you'll have trouble replacing those keycaps.
>Aside from which, gaymen shit is generally shunned around here since it very often has bad quality control and sub-par build quality and you can very often do better for the price.
Clearly you can't read when the issue isn't 'just' about taste
>replacing those keycaps
why would I replace keycaps? I never had to do so on any keyboard
>gaymen shit is shunned
ordering online was not an option and just saying "muh gaymen stuff is crap" is 100% subjective
>why would I replace keycaps?
Because one of the beautiful things about mechanical keyboards is that you can actually replace the keycaps.
Want some nice thick PBT instead of thin ABS? Get a different keycap set.
Want a different keycap profile?
Get a different keycap set.
Want to change the looks of your keyboard just because?
Get a different keycap set.
A nonstandard bottom row eliminates a large amount of sets since they often don't make special bottom row modifiers just to accommodate for those people who were stupid enough to buy something with a non-standard bottom row. You buy a mechanical, but limit yourself from a whole lot of aftermarket keycap sets just because you bought something with a non-standard bottom row. You do nothing but shoot yourself in the foot like that.
>and just saying "muh gaymen stuff is crap" is 100% subjective
Build quality isn't subjective anon. You may be lucky with that asus keyboard and it may actually have proper build quality, but both razer and corsair shit out keyboards which are known for having issues with build quality and quality control. I don't know if the same applies to ROG peripherals, but I wouldn't be all to surprised if you get dead LEDs and dead switches within a few months.
That being said, you'll probably be quite happy with your keyboard. What you are reading here are the opinions of enthusiasts who are far more into this than you are. It's like asking a group of audiophiles if you did good in purchasing a set of logitech speakers. The answer is no, but that doesn't mean that you will not be satisfied with it, it's just that you are asking people with entirely different standards.
Granted keycaps would be a matter of taste, although it would be wise to know most backlit keyboards come with ABS plastic keycaps which start to shine and become smooth after a while, and PBT plastic has a more solid feel and texture. For a product which entire experience heavily relies on feel, keycaps would be a consideration
Having poor ass QC is another issue especially on gaymen boards which usually contain LEDs that love to die out really fast and sometime have unresponsive switches. Gaymen boards rely on flashy rice and attractive prices to sell, and QC suffers for it.
I guess learn and live, I'll just throw it in the trash if it dies after the one year warranty. Anyways it was more of an impulsive buy and obviously only mech keyboards available were gaymen stuff.
at least I have mx blues for the macro keys ;^)
Sorry for the late reply. I appreciate the input! After sleeping on it and considering what you said, I'm thinking that I'm gonna go ahead and take the keyboard. I forgot to mention that I'm only paying $40 for it so it really is a great price. Thank you!
- Artisans in general are collectible
- New shitters see experienced shitters collecting them and want to be part of the cool kids' club
- People who don't use Vim have no respect for the escape key
- Nostalgia for those who saw transformers as a kid
- There is absolutely no accounting for taste
Oh, look. It's the latest in artisan keycaps! Only $50.
What is it?
I bought a set of vortex pbt backlit through Amazon, and I got two Ys and no TS. Should I go to corus-kb.com or Amazon to cry?
So when the FUCK is Unicomp finally releasing their SSK?
It has been like a year since they said we just need to "be patient an wait for a couple more months". How the fuck do they not understand that they are literally sitting on piles of money? How can one company try so hard not to make a fuckton of profit?
150€ budged, i would like to see some colors but no black plastic shit nor razer tier stuff
They released a statement later that said it was not actually april first and it was just a really unfortunate timing. For a while there they seemed to be actually making something, but then all the news about it just stopped.
It isn't. You need to try out some switches to at least get an idea. Order a switch tester if you have no electronics stores you can check out boards at in europa.
Everyone has an idea of what the "best" switches are, but it's pretty subjective.
Do you actually like the feel of rubberdomes?
Brown or Clear (heavier)
Do you rather like it typewriterish:
Blue (about as heavy as a rubberdome)/Green or even White
Do you dislike a tactile bump?
Red (lighter than your average rubberdome)/Black (heavier)
If you still don't know, get a switchtester, like >>51581692 stated.
I got both (V60 White, Ducky Mini YOTH Green)
White switches are nice, but you got to be aware, that they are way heavier than greens.
Whites are about as heavy as greys, while greens are about as heavy as blacks.
Also white switches don't feel all the same. Some click more than others. While a lot of people dislike it, I actually don't mind.
I wouldn't get a MX White as daily driver, but sometimes it is pretty neat to use, since they feel and sound really different than other Cherry switches.
There really isn't much difference in most games.
If you play OSU! both are pretty shit imo., but stuff like CS, BF, LoL, AC or something like SC2, works with both switches.
That whole "Switch A is for X" is total bullshit and everybody using these categories has no idea what he's talking about.
I need a good sized keyboard with a trackball on it in a convenient location like the Model m5-1. I also need it to be under $30.
Currently using a K95 with reds and it's pretty shit, half the led are ded too.
How is topres? Need something more tacticle/ergnomic but still useable for gaems, nothing autistics that wants ultra rapid clicking though.
Considering Ergodox also since that will supposedly be good for my wrists/fingers.
I got an ergodox a few months ago.
Certainly takes time to get used to the ortholinear layout, but it is pretty nice.
I am currently writing my 50 page thesis and have consderably less wrist/finger pain than I had before.
Wish I could find a wooden plate like the one in your picture though.
So I know this is mechanical keyboard general, but are there any good rubberdomes out there that don't feel like shit?
I currently have a keyboard with MX Reds, and they have far too much noise, especially when I'm on Skype or some other voice chat. So are there any silent mechanicals out there, and failing that, are there any proper rubberdomes or other keyboards that would be good for typing and playing games and such?
I value the feel of knowing that I pressed something, so I don't want a completely mushy keyboard. I've heard that butterfly switches are alright, but I don't know if that's limited to Apple stuff (mostly anyway)
i bought a Razer Black Widow at walmart tonight to see what all the buzz is about with these mechanical keyboards.
i'll be returning it today.
best buy has the logitech g710+ for $65 though so i might try it out.
Surely there has to be some? And I suppose they don't even have to be rubberdome, just as long as they're quiet. That's really all I want. I'm not alone in this house and I'd rather not annoy everyone with my typing constantly.
As I said, butterfly switches are apparently alright, but probably limited to laptops mostly. I also feel like getting one of the quiet MX switches would still be a bit too loud, and very mushy. So that only really leaves me with keyboards that are either rubberdome, or don't have a whole lot of travel. But I'm no expert, so that's why I'm asking you guys.
Are there decent keyboards with reliable, colored LEDs? (Looking for orange, but I could go red if all the multi-color ones suck.) Preferably under $150, but I welcome whatever info. The sticky lists some with options, but there are mixed reviews depending on ones with multiple color options.
This is the best rubber dome keyboard I used.
Yes, I noticed it now. I thought Topre was some weird abbreviation of "top kek". But it turns out it's an actual thing.
So thank you for that suggestion, I need to look into it, friend. And my apologies.
I basically thought you were memeing me. I honestly didn't know Topre was a type of switch, so I just assumed you were making fun of me.
On that note, do you have any recommendations for Topre keyboards? Seems to be a pretty scarce selection.
Got this in today, QuickFire XT with browns for a poor fag. Already like it much more than my Filco with blacks.
does anyone know about pic related?
its cheap and says it comes with "Qutemu blue Switches"
i want blue switches but i guess i'll go with the noppoo choc mini's gateron switches instead
just bought this one, my first mechanical keyboard. is it ok? I saw a corsair just like this one, is the corsair better?
Topre is even louder than reds. Dunno why that fucker recommended then.
Get a matias quiet linear/click switch. Those are actually as silent as some rubberdomes, still louder than silent RDs though
This. The Corsair shit is overpriced and has a non-standard layout (utterly autistic). Feel the glory of your PBT's when the time comes for you to get new caps, or if you just decide to get them.
What do u guys think about my cherry mx red kb
What's your thoughts on the Corsair Strafe keyboards? Are they still prone to LED failure?
I use a Topre 55g as my board at home.
It is much more tactile than I expected - much more pronounced hump than MX brown or blue.
It took me a little bit to get used to the heavier switch since I was using MXred before, but I love it.
I have no problems at all playing games with it, although it would probably not be ideal for really fast tapping.
Pok3r with browns, blinded cat edition. I'm thinking of getting the VA68M off Massdrop, but the price is kinda high...
Okay, well, a couple things:
1) I don't know why >>51592982 called it "black". It comes with blue switches.
2) The non-standard bottom row means you have literally one option for aftermarket caps, and it's not exactly the best
3) It's fuck-ugly and huge.
For 50 bucks it is a great keyboard and you should probably get it.
Non-standard bottom row sucks, but if you need a fullsize keyboard it is a good mk for starters. You can probably sell it afterwards with profit, if you don't like your kb anymore.
I honestly can't tell keyboards apart and they all feel pretty shit after using this thing. The model m comes kinda close but is only a pale imitation of the real deal.
The interior is also pure sex. I wish I could find one of the teletype terminal models. It needs to be hooked to a computer. Still the best word processor asis though.
How could IBM fuck up so bad going from >>51596805 to >>51597080? Was black too sexy for the 80s? At least they still had functionality in mind to keep your coffee further away from your ashtray.
Speaking of which, pencil holders are fine too.
This one is White ALPS clickety clack and coiled cable goodness.
I spilt drink all over my 5-6 year old trusty Razer Arctosa and so shitted that out.
I've mainly gone from gaming to coding now. What mechanical keyboard, which looks fairly modern and available in black, would /mkg/ recommend me?
I'm looking for a $100-ish keyboard (max of about $150), mostly for programming and essay-typing. I've given up gayming, so nothing too gaudy. Preferably something nice and minimalist. I'd like to replace the keycaps as well.
Infographics on 4chan are meaningless. Any memer can go and fill them up with plausible-sounding bullshit or hearsay that will fool anyone without prior knowledge on the subject.
oh yeah just look at how sensitive those rubber domes are
....now look at these razer switches getting pounded hard. Especially that poor green one.
sit all the key caps in a bowl of warm or hot water. Dry them off as best you can with a towel/rag(if there is sticky stuff on any, let it sit in water longer and rub it off with the towel). then allow them you sit overnight to completely dry.
Once they're off to the side drying, wet a Q-tip with alcohol and wipe down the keyboard. you should be able to get all the dust/dirt from it.