/fat/ - its still good just dust it off edition

>>42661131
>No wojak
This'll be a disappointing thread

>>42661131
My first thought would be to clean the mess up
not take a photo

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>tfw have to wear a belt now

>>42661144
This

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>>42661155
>tfw another half a year of this boring routine

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>15 min eliptical warm up
>5x15 exchanging opinions
>3x10 planning vaction
>1x5 discussing rumors
>5x5 small talk (deload 10% if conversation becomes too heavy)
>sitting around idly at gym equipment till failure

Anyone tried this routine?

All my fat goes into my face, belly, thighs, and butt, while my torso is left completely skinny.

I absolutely have to get rid of this, but at least I dont have mantits.

fat fucks

>>42661264
that's damaging to my self esteem
I think I'll go eat a tub of ice cream to make myself feel better
>b-b-but that picture of the chef
fuck you, I have feelings

I realized I'm never going to make it. I tried not to hate myself and to just look at my obesity as a health problem I can fix but I just fall out of my exercise eventually and lose all hope. Is the key to losing weight hating yourself? I sure as fuck can't hate myself more than I do right now. Someone hand me over another burger I wanna end it right now.

>>42661559
“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.”

– Chinese Proverb

>>42661559
health is a crappy reason to lose weight if you don't even enjoy being alive

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>>42661151
Vegetables go through you in 30 minutes leaving you hungry again.
The trick is to eat 1/2 veggies, then put 1/4 potatoes and 1/4 chicken on top, so your stupid stomach thinks it's full of chicken and potatoes.
There's a reason traditional dinners look like they do (including soup), and also why Americans are getting fat because they stopped eating them.

>>42661209
good lord I'd kill you and eat your arm (2800 calories) to have this. I'm a fucking giant beer belly stomach with normal arms and legs. I mean I feel like a grape (62 calories) shoved halfway down a pretzel stick (2 calories). It's fucking disgusting.

Post your bod. I want to see you freak boy.

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>>42661645
chicken fried steak?

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>>42661151
instructions unclear

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>>42661645
>There's a reason traditional dinners look like they do

Because in the 1950s we were told to eat a much meat and bread as vegetables?

>>42661747
since when do people do what they're told

vegans fuck off, we're full, back to /lgbt/

>>42661645
>stomach confusion

>>42661810
>not mixing it up and eating tomatos on tuesdays instead of mondays to confuse your stomach

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>white fish

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>>42661776
Fuck off fatass, this isn't your hugbox, go be edgy on /pol/.

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Confess your sins.

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Today it's my second week at gym.

I've lost 1kg so far... and it feels good man.

Low cal diet, 35min cardio and 1hr lifting, WE ARE GONNA MAKE IT!!!

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>>42661918
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
you probably think the holocaust was real too huh faggot

>>42661934
nah.

>>42661934
not starting 10 years ago

>>42661810
It just werks, try it.

>>42661855
thats racist

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>>42661964
you should reward yourself for doing so well

>>42662068

gains golem get ye gone

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>>42661131
/fat/ help me for I am about to sin.

I've been maintaining sub 1500 calories every day for 2 weeks now and today my family decided to order 4 massive pizzas and nandos. I can smell it all the way from my room, I'm so fucking hungry.

I'm trying to trick my brain by drinking tea and water or something.

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>took a break from counting calories this weekend
>gained 2 lbs since thursday

>>42662093

Don't give in

>>42662093
crawl out of the window and come back when its safe again.

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>>42661934
I've gained 3lbs since yesterday despite only eating just under 800 calories- a protein shake, a protein bar and fruit with yoghurt. I don't know what I did wrong but it feels pretty bad. I was in a good mood yesterday because I hit a milestone but now I'm back where I was a few days ago.

>>42662093

take just 1 (one) slice and enjoy the social gains

>>42662208

weight can fluctuate on a daily basis

don't beat yourself up over it

>>42662208
How many times do you need to be told that such minor fluctuations are meaningless? Are you weighing yourself first thing in the morning, naked, after pissing? Even if you do it right you'll fluctuate based on salt/water content of your body, shit in your bowels, etc. After a year or more of daily weight checks you'll basicslly become blind to the random swings and only see the overall trend. Keep going fucker

>>42662093
You can do this anon, I know that shit is hard but you can do it. If you can walk I'd go for a walk now, it helps if you have a dog to take with you to keep you company.

You could eat 2 slices and then not eat anything else after if you really want but I know personally when I start on pizza I can't stop. It and Cadburys chocolate are my main binge trigger foods.

>>42662208
Holy shit. How many times does this have to be repeated: WEIGHT FLUCTUATES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. This should be in the OP.

Do you guys who made it find women pay more attention? I remember I used to get called handsome all the time, and all my girlfriends were in my teens, and my weight crept up so steadily over a decade I never really suspected it was maybe why I've not been flirted with properly in several years.

I mean, I'm focusing on myself at the moment, bettering myself and building my business.

But eventually it would be nice to get married and have kids, hopefully in the next decade. (I'm 29, so I'm giving myself til around 39 to get financially stable before actively dating.)

If I start getting hit on, I'm of the 'put a ring on it' morality, which will likely mean due to years of pent up frustration and desire to be in a relationship, I'll end up nuking my well laid plans.

>>42662093
just eat 3 slices its no big deal, buddy!

>hit goal
woo
>have a drink
>eat a sandwich
>put some clothes on
>gained 8lbs
fuck

>>42661559

No. Completely wrong mindset bro/ette. You have to love yourself, and realise you are never going to have the life you deserve, the mental and physical stability that comes with being reasonably fit and a normal weight.

If it's so hard you are failing and giving up, you are probably doing it wrong. You do need will power and to more or less cut out unhealthy shit, but you can still snack, and eat nice food, as long as you are keeping your kcal lower than you use. And that's much easier if you are active.

>>42662260
> having your first kid at 39

Don't. Do you want to be decrepit by the time your first grandkids are born? Imagine if you have your first at 40 and then YOUR kid waits till 40. You'll be 80 and spent. There's no way it will take you a fucking decade to get your life together enough to have a family unless you spend the first 7 years making excuses

>>42662281

>hit goal
>go to kitchen
>grab a sandwich
>put on a plate
>grab a cup of water
>pick up both with your hands
>put on winter jacket
>walk back to scale
>weigh again
>gained weight

UMMM WTF?

>>42662093

Make yourself an extra protein shake, maybe two, and drink til you're full. Even delicous shitty food smells gross and fatty when you feel full.

>>42662305
are you an idiot?

>>42662315

are you?

>>42662288
>realise you are never going to have the life you deserve
you dont deserve anything

>but you can still snack
no

>>42662260
It is your job to pay attention to women and let them decide if they like you or not. Just put yourself out there. If no one responds to your attempts in a positive manner, you just need to work on yourself more. Remember, no one worth having will give fatty a chance.

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So, how much weight do you guys have to lose to get to your goal weight? 122lbs here.

>>42662331
depends on the topic

>>42662300

It's more a case of having the 'fun' years I missed out on in my twenties due to ill health and spending my disposble income on myself. Starting a family will rapidly eat up any and all extra money, even if it will be a joy, but I'm not ready to give up my freedom when I have only really just been given it.

As for my kids, I should have plenty of energy into my 50s and even 60s if I stay fit. I won't make it to grandkids. I enjoy smoking my cigars too much. And if I do, swell, I'll just make it clear that grandpa gets tired easily and wants to watch his stories.

I'd still appreciate an answer to how chicks actually respond when you are /fit/.

>The only really shitty thing about having kids late is the grief for the kids. I'm not even thity til next year, and around two-thirds of my family have died from age or illness. My mum is nearing sixty and ill and my dad is in his mid-fifties witha drinking problmen and a heart condition. It fucking hurts to watch, and I'm already a year older than my mum was when she gave birth to me.

>>42662365

same here

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Ok fellow fatties.

6'0" 288lb sedentary down from 370 over 3 years

I've been on phentermine for a month. I started taking it for energy but it makes your hunger cottony and easy to ignore. The problem is I added up what I ate yesterday and it was 1563 calories. I probably hit 1600-2000 on average without counting. Fully a third of my calories every day is sugar soda, but that shouldn't matter because its accounted for in the calories, right?

So in a month I've lost about 12 pounds doing this. I'm wtfing slightly. Worse I feel as fat as ever. My energy is up (from nil to sedentary, I have a lot of physical problems) but I go through a whole day without crashing. I weighed this morning for the first time (didn't weigh when I started) and I'm horribly discouraged. The twelve pounds is a guess. I haven't been tracking anything, I haven't been weighing, but it's not like I'm eating a 2200 calorie chocolate cake accidentally every day either. In fact I usually wind up at 1pm realizing I've only had 3oz of milk the whole day and eat because I feel faint, not because I'm hungry.

So what the fuck? I mean 288 is great, it's not 300, it's not 370 but I feel like something is really fucked up that I'm not at least feeling better. I don't know that I have a question. I've typed this out four times and deleted it. I seriously debated stopping the phentermine this morning but took it after all.

>>42662337
>you dont deserve anything

Fuck off. This isn't philosophy. If you don't value yourself, no one else will.

>

Yes. There is nothing wrong with a diet soda and a protein shake, or pork scratchings, or cloud-bread. You still eat on a diet.

>230g bag
>"497kcal per 100g"
>"53kcal per serving (20 servings)"
so is it 1,060 or 1,143?

>mfp won't let you enter the food for the day because you undereat

fucking filling food eeeer

>>42662093
DO FUCKING NOT DO IT
DO NOT
DON'T
JUST FUCKING DON'T

axe murder your fucking bastard family if you have to, but don't wreck your shit. you can make it.

>>42662208
wadder wait

good job on your milestone. you still got there, don't ignore that just because the scale decided to be a bitch and your period is starting.

>>42662358

I'm just going to eyeball it, swap to a different diet (keto seems exessive long term) and work on building. I'm permanantly off tasty snackfoods and deserts though. I'm going to go full recovering alcohollic on that shit.

>want a husband and a family since being little
>get a good education
>get a good job
>be an overall nice and likeable person
>gain weight steadily over the last 5 years
>men treat me like the lowest shit because of being overweight
>see how mean and disrespectful they are towards me. see how spineless and pathetic they are towards pretty, slim grills.
>lose all respect for anyone with a dick
>come across IF, drop all silly cardio, start lifting, lose 10kg in a couple of weeks, back on track
>develop hatred for men that I can't get rid of anymore since I've seen shit no slim grill has seen
>tfw never going to have that one thing you always wanted and worked so hard for.

so now what

>urge to binge
>fight it off
>it comes back
>drink water
>brush my teeth
>eat raw coffee
>meditate
>hide food
>have a cry
>handcuff myself to the sink
>the urge goes
>go to sleep exhausted

>wake up
>urge to binge

I can't do this for the rest of my life
is this really the only way?

>>42662413
>If you don't value yourself, no one else will.
who says i don't? how are those mutually exclusive? I dont delude myself into thinking im entitled to anything because of my circumstances, anything I have I earned myself.

as for snacking, you dont reward a food addiction with food.

>>42662452
get over yourself probably

>>42662093
bro just eat it already, you have no self-control and you know it

>>42662486
what do you mean?

>feeling nearly weightless while doing pull ups now

>>42661934
I ate 2 bags of peach sausages on my fast day. why do i break diet on the shittiest worst possible food?

>>42662509
zero gravity gym on ISS really paying off

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>>42662452

>be an overall nice and likeable person

yeah sure

What keeps you motivated/drives you to keep going, /fat/?

>>42662549
can't remember

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>>42662240
>get up
>get naked
>piss
>weigh in
>same as yesterday
>feel massive shit rumbling
>sit on toilet
>fill bowl with giant log
>must be a four pounder
>feel absolutely cleaned out
>weigh in
>it's 2lb more

>>42662358
Sergeant wants me down to 170 so i don't have to be worried when i go back to MEPS to ship out.
181 now and it's like a flip of a coin every day if i'll get my orders.

>>42662549
i dont want to lose to you retards on /fat/

I gained 21 pounds over a 2 week vacation

>>42662472

well the other way is giving in and becoming more of a fat fuck

>>42662472
yeah maybe you should try eating a normal healthy diet instead of binging and handcuffs

>>42662566
RIP

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>>42662452
>21st century woman the post
drop the job, ditch your shitty mentality and show men how much worth you'd have as Queen of his castle.
you are a depreciating asset and if you don't show some value now then i hope you enjoy a multitude of cats in your life.
>bait

>>42662566
you fucking disgusting pig
push yourself away from the trough and pretend to care ffs

>>42662400
>Fully a third of my calories every day is sugar soda, but that shouldn't matter because its accounted for in the calories, right?
Better drink diet one.

>>42662452
what horrible things did men do to you?

go on tell us

>>42662599
>normal healthy diet
broad terms
specify please

>>42662478
>anything I have I earned myself.

Eh, think we might be talking past each other, as that's really what I was getting at. To even try to 'earn' yourself anything, even if it's a better body, you need to start from a place of genuine desire to be better and some small spark of self esteem.

If you don't, and go into it out of despair or someone pressuring you, you'll generally cave in the second you see/smell something tasty and next thing you know it's months later, you'll have a reality check whilst elbow deep in an extra-size bag of cheetos, and bigger than even before.

No, but even addicts in prison get given something to help curb the addiction. Going full cold turkey, rather than finding healthy and genuinely tasty alternatives, will doom a diet for some people before they even start.

I'm a key example. I went from 'not really being on a diet' and just cutting out bread and other carbs but would still eat a McDonalds if I passed it. Then, I went to okay, I'll cut out as much sugar and carbs as I can, but as much healthy stuff as I can. Now I'm on two protein shakes a day leading up to a healthy meat-veg/salad meal, with a few diet sodas and strong black tea for caff.

Each change has been caused by seeing and feelings the gains. I was amazed to go from not even managing two push ups or sit ups to being able to do ten each and not feeling like passing out afterwards. I got too enthusiastic yesterday and did something like thirty five situps and twenty squats and can barely walk, so rest day today, and being less silly in future. Smaller sets on a regime i think.

>>42662452
>boo hoo, I was treated worse than attractive & thin people because I let myself become a fatass
Fuck off roastie, there's no way this isn't bait

>>42662545
some people like me some people don't.
what I mean is I don't hang around someone I don't like just to abuse the person for my own pleasure or for my ego trip. Men do it all the time towards women they don't value. I'd suggest at least to have some respect for other people and to leave them alone but I guess I'm the one with a prooblem now.

>>42662603
>>42662617
been dieting and losing weight slowly. doing the whole TDEE, eating within my daily limit, lifting and cardio.
need to be 175 officially but i'm more motivated now to keep getting slimmer

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>>42662523
the fuck is a peach sausage

>tfw changing and the guy in the mirror is starting to have definition on his gut

from 320 to 240, only 40 more to go boys, we are all going to make it.

>>42662452

See, it work the other way around if you are a chubby fucker like me with a dick. Women don't pay attention to you at all, you might as well be invisible unless they want something, and I've actually had a fugly fucker who was a known cheater picked over me.

I don't particularly like women all that much anymore on a personal level, after starting out adulthood as a hopeless romantic. I just have to hope that once I'm /fit/ I can get over the bitterness and find someone I genuninely like rather than just passive-aggressive sleeping around and then getting a mail order bride.

>>42662612
I wanted kids. Not cats. I know that some people don't see a difference but there is one.
>drop the job
I guess I get what you mean but I can't really afford to do that.

Thanks for your feedback 4chan. I'm out.

>>42662627
Just eat potatoes for every meal

>>42662627
more good stuff
less bad stuff

>>42662093

Go have one slice, then drink a shit load of coffee. Nothing fools your stomach into thinking its full like a fuck ton of strong coffee.

>>42662648
They're sausages with peaches ground up in them. I went to buy gas and came out with two bags. They didn't even last the ride home

>>42662414

Always assume the bigger number.

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>>42662691
and cheese

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>>42662718
The cheese is the difference between that lady and this guy

>>42662683
I hope for the both of us we can get passed that. I don't have a problem with ranking lower on the meat market as a fatty, what I have a problem with is the spinelessness I've dealt with. I've just lost respect for men who claim to be the ones with the capabilities for higher morals.

>>42662734

>potato only

rip mussels

>>42662452
>>gain weight steadily over the last 5 years
>>see how mean and disrespectful they are towards me. see how spineless and pathetic they are towards pretty, slim grills.
>>lose all respect for anyone with a dick
>>develop hatred for men that I can't get rid of anymore since I've seen shit no slim grill has seen

Trust me, it wasn't your fat that was putting them off (although your fat sure as fuck also put them off). You're a cunt.


>>tfw never going to have that one thing you always wanted and worked so hard for.

Thats your fault as well. Just like you would rather fuck an atractive dude over an ugly dude, men would rather fuck an atractive woman over you. You took this not to mean that you need to improve yourself, but that everyone who didn't like you for being less desirable than the next girl is scum.

You fucked up your body

You fucked up your brain

You ruined your chance at achieving the ONLY purpose of life which is reproduction.

You belong in /fph/ not here.

>>42662472

I keep my food in the barn. Its 2 miles from home so I can't just go grab some food on a whim. You should try something similar.

>>42662452
LESBINASIM

>>42662779
I do
it's called a grocery store

also
>stopping yourself from getting to the food by not buying it
logical, highly recommended here
>stopping yourself from getting to the food by incapacitating yourself
dumb, weak willed, never gonna make it

For the record I think both are bad practises. Willpower is best exercised, not ignored completely.

>>42661197
That's the normie routine. The hardcore lifting routine looks something like this:

10 minutes stationary cycling for warmup.
isolations that should be replaced by compound lifts 3-4 x 15 each, no visible effort, because if you try too hard, you get hurt.
smith machine quarter squats 2 x 12
biceps and triceps isolations, no visible effort, 3x15

>>42662627
normal healthy is eating three meals, light snack, not pounding down 3 boxes of little debbie hohos in five minutes or whaterver you think is the only alternative to handcuffs. meat vegetables, a little bread maybe, some fruit spread out over the whole day, taken with lots of water.

what the fuck do YOU think is a normal healthy diet?

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>>42661193
tick tock

>>42662400
You've already taken pounds off, which is great, but now it's time to work on the next step. Your teeth, immune system, and colon (among other things) will thank you for doing the following:

>No soda (you drink tea now)
>Plan your meals (three square a day)
>Go for walks

Keep at it, anon. One day at a time.

>>42662814
>it's called a grocery store

fair enough, but I can't take 20 minuets to run to the store for every meal.

>>42662712
Damn. Well, better luck going forward. We all slip up.

>>42662737
Tell us a few stories about how men treated you when you were fat.

I'm a fat fuck who's slimming down, and damn if it doesn't hurt when you're either invisible to females or considered so worthless that common decency doesn't apply and you'll get shit on in different small (or big) ways most of the time.

>>42662400
Well 12 lbs this month sure as hell beats your old record of 2.3 lbs per month(370 to 288 in 3 years). Phenetermine is supposed to work for around 6 months or so (lessening over time) so it's not that. I seriously don't see how you have a problem, just continue your cut and make your goal.

>>42662854
lean meats, brown rice, mixed vegetables, leafy greens, bit of cheese, few nuts and lots of fruit, dark chocolate on occasion

the fuck is a hoho?

>>42662898

I think its like a Twinkies but with chocolate on it.

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>>42662737

Yeah, hopefully after a few months/years we'll both be in a better place mentally. Time dulls all life lessons.

I'll always remember as I started gaining weight family members assured me that women don't really care about that, or like something to hug, which in hindsight was both nice and shitty of them at the same time. I was already enabling myself plenty enough as it was.

More on topic,

>Me this summer, trying to mask my size under a xxl t-shirt and that realisation that kick started me being uncomfortable with my size.

Everything hugging your tits or stomach is the start of revelation.

>>42662908
oh, an american thing
choc full of peanut butter no doubt, man you love that stuff over there

>>42662472
eat more food and you won't want to binge
binge eating isn't normal, you shouldn't ever be inclined to do it

>>42662918

naw, people get stupid about allergies over here so most snacks like that are made so lazy parrents can send a couple boxes to school with their kids for a party and not have to put forth any effort. Bringing peanut butter to a school is like bringing a gun anymore.

Twinkies are filled with some kind of "cream" but I don't know what hohos are filled with.

>>42661973
>the eternal newfags of /pol/ try and shit up another thread

>>42662918
Georgia guy here (peanut capital of the world), peanuts aren't really used in snacks like that anymore, one because of allergies and two because they're filling.
They're filled with a mixture of corn syrup, powdered sugar, vegetable oil and some kind of concentrated milk fat.

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>>42662452
>people are attracted to attractive people

...holy shit.

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>>42662452
Stop blaming men for basic human psychology. Would you hit on a fat tub of lard? Don't blame men for not wanting to fuck whales. Overcome your shitty hormones and make yourself the best possible version of yourself that you can and just let life happen. Stop holding onto bitterness.

>>42662452
>feminist
>meme diet

this has to be bait

>>42663153
if you're wrong you're an idiot
if you're right you're an idiot for replying
was better to say nothing

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>>42663162

>>42663201
don't excuse the retard

>>42662452
>fail the only expectation the world has of you
>blame the world

You had literally one job. Don't get fat. That's it.

>>42662452
I've had some crud happen to me for being fat, too, but you shouldn't hate all men just because of how some treated you. If you truly want a family like you dreamed, you'll just need to get over it. If it bothers you that much, you could even try finding a man who was also overweight and lost it, so they understand where you're coming from more. That was my plan with the loose skin I'll have from being a lard since childhood. I'm going to nab myself an equally floppy man, hopefully.

>>42663361
>I'm going to nab myself an equally floppy man, hopefully.
Why not going for regular ones?

>>42663361
my plan is to bag a qt chubster on tinder who has a goat personality and then teach her the ways of the kitchen weight

>>42662358
10kg down 4 to go

>>42662358
-32lbs

>>42662358

-40 would have me hit 200lbs (6'2) but I could probably get to 190-180, or really wherever I lose my gut and sides.

>>42662358
25 kg (till 90 kg)

>>42662549
A grill ;_;
We snapchat eachother our meals every day so I have to eat healthy or she'll judge me

>>42663394
qt chubsters get fucked by chad on the regular and don't need your selfishly motivated fake generosity

>>42663361
Floppy guy here, London?

>>42661151
Oils are more filling though I'm doing keto omad at 1500 calories and I'm pretty satiated most of the day. But I suppose if you eat a full on healthy vegetarian diet and keep eating vegetables all the time to keep yourself sated it could work too.

>>42663509
>Oils are more filling

Give me one source you fucking faggot or shut the fuck up forever, you keep repeating this bullshit statement every thread.

>>42662358
15kg more, I'm down 8kg so far

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>>42661934
cheat week ends tomorrow :(

>>42663509
>Intermemeidate fasting
>Memeto

can we stop spreading nonsense fads in these threads please

>>42663550
you'll get through it buddy
think of the kale and chicken you can have tomorrow

>>42663381
My body will be too far gone when I finish and doubt a regular man could find me attractive without clothes. I've lost 152 lbs, I'm 5'3 and I still need to lose some more weight. I imagine it'll be quite the challenge for me to nab anyone no matter what my positive qualities are.

>>42663394
It sounds like it'll also be a challenge to find a goat personality on tinder from how people talk about it. Good luck, bro!

>>42662559
damn nigga contact someone at cern, shitty dark energy or some shit right here

>>42663504
I don't know if you can reach my levels of flop, anon.

>>42663509
Refined sugar is more satiating than oil when you do an actual isocaloric controlled experiment
Sugar is a nutrient the body actually has some use for

>>42663527
I heard it on a documentary once so it must be true

>>42663527
No need to be so upset, I've only just dropped by so I'm not the guy repeating the statement every thread. I'm just sharing my opinion and I have no source. If you disagree, that's fine. The whole sated feeling might just be placebo or slow metabolism from too much calorie deficit.

>>42663570
I've only shared my experience with IF. If you noticed, I said that eating all the time, as long as it's low calorie food like vegetables, is also good.

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>>42663527
>>42663570
>>42663606
pls no bully. I might have a fucked metabolism from too much calorie deficit.

>>42663654
Do whatever works for you, but wether you eat at certain times, certain types or food, or eat while jumping on one leg while singing country songs, ultimately all you're doing is restricting calories

>>42661934
Drank 1800 calories of beer yesterday and ate 1000 calories of Oreos after 3 weeks of no alcohol. Scale reads 7 pounds heavier than yesterday. Hoping tomorrow I'll be back down 7 lbs

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>>42663763
>beer and oreos

>>42662288
thats fucking retarded m8. self-hatred is the most important tool a fatty has

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>>42663776
Not together ya dingus

>>42662358
not sure, going to go based how how I look. I can't get too skinny because i have been 300lbs most my life, so once the skin starts getting loose and won't tighten anymore I will just start putting on muscle from there.
So hopefully I can pull off bear mode atleast

>>42662764
can't lose what's not there

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>>42663574
i like the way (you) think

>>42663819
>worrying about how much loose skin you'll have when you're a 300lb land whale

yeah stop planning for places you'll never go

>>42662452
And I'm sure once you are fit you will only be giving attention to fat ugly guys right?

>>42663819
I'm worried about the lack of oxygen on mt. Everest and how that will affect my assent.
>hasn't left couch in 12 years

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>>42662559
lol that has happened to me too
Stopped weighting myself everyday after that.

>>42661934
The senpai brought home store bought chicken wings and tortas with chicharron. I have no self control tbqh

>>42662566

You can literally cut 11 pounds in a day, get out the sauna suit and start running laps.

>>42662358
Around 98 pounds to go senpai. Started at 316 in late february, I'm at 268 now. I've been a fat fuck my entire childhood/teenage life, so I want to start off my 20's decently.

>>42662358

probably like 25 kg

>>42663883
>>42663904
Not sure what point you're trying to make
lost 70lbs already so whatever you think is pointless.

>>42663468
damn i need that shit

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>tfw have to add a notch to the belt not because I gained weight but because I lost it

>>42662549

I watch videos of skinny people enjoying their lives out in nature

https://youtu.be/KPXOcOA1LmU

>>42662549
I want to look at myself in the mirror. Even then i'm a fucking chinlet..

>>42664796
>bouldering
doesn't seem safe at all.

>>42664829

That's what the crash pads are for. There's indoor stuff, too; the holds are bigger, but the moves are still crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn1i-mLL9M

>>42664853
don't get me wrong i reckon bouldering is pretty badass, climbing in general does wonders for building forearm/grip strength.

safety thing just seems like a big issue to me. normal climbing you at least have a harness, even with a crash pad i reckon a bad fall could put you out of action for a while.

>>42664036
You can do it anon! We're gonna make it.

>>42664916
i wonder why people do it without safety
yeah, it might be badass, but having a broken body isn't baddass once you slip a grip

>hairline already getting JUST'ed in mid twenties

no amount of weightloss can fix it

>>42664971
crash pads can only help to a certain extent. if you hit water from a certain height it's like hitting any hard surface. and if you fall on to a crash pad you could easily fall at the wrong angle, land and break your arm, land and break your back, land and break your neck. i guess it's like any extreme sport where the adrenaline comes from the risk.

fucking white people

>>42664916
>>42664971

Broken legs and stuff only become a threat once you start highballing. It's not like people are doing risky stuff on the regular.

>>42664973
>tfw same but 21
better thin and bald than fat and bald eh

>>42664973
Statham, Vin Diesel, Dwayne Johnson, etc

>>42661934
I have literally no diet plan because I don't know where to start and I'm afraid an lazy.

Why do I do this to myself

Why is self control so hard? I feel like an addict and it's so pathetic

The worst part is I'm relapsing - last year I lost 70lbs so I now how to do CICO but the self determination isn't there this time

Luckily I haven't gained anything back beyond 10lbs... but that's a slippery slope isn't it?

>>42665172
Only Vin seems like a "realistic" probably. Statham and Dwayne has very prominent masculine facial features.

>>42665303
You might too. Hiding under chins.

>>42665241
Idk, I'm having the same trouble too

>>42665326
>You might too. Hiding under chins.
I've seen my skinny pictures - 4/10. Massive forehead and small chin. I dont think that face radically changes after puberty.

>>42665356
Fat distribution in the face might. Career criminal chad/model has young/current pictures out. He wasn't that hot before

>>42665599
Ayy, I got a 66, 55, 99, what do I win?

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Went to the gym for the first time, and my co-workers said I should be doing low weights/high reps if I'm on a major calorie deficit. Leddit also suggested it, but I can't find scientific proof. Are there right fatbros? I'm doing 4x5 now, should I work up to 4x10 or something?

>>42665615
Try to aim for volume you can recover from, in your high deficit. As is known, volume is harder than intensity to recover from (1rm vs tons of reps), so 4x5 could be better than a hard 4x10 for you.

Experiment. Keep volume where you can recover from, don't just artificially lower it.

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>>42665599
You mean this?

>>42665662
Exactly that. 2009 - 2014 is a huge leap forward in aesthetics.

>>42665680
Just because he was a little chubby?

>>42665686
You're not seeing it?

>>42665680
>>42665686
except his eye colors changed and he became whiter. its not the same person.

So I recently started couch to 5k and I just want to ask, you're supposed to run every other day right? There are three days per week.
Could I run every day? Would that be counter productive?

>>42665662
Whoa his eyes went from brown too blue and he became white. So this is the power of getting fit

>>42665734
its called whey and not blay protein for a reason

>>42665717
As someone who is currently recovering from a stress fracture - yes, that would eventually become counterproductive

>>42662358
about 60 ish pounds until i can wear clothes and not look fat. but I'd like to be able to take my shirt off so realistically 80-90 lbs.

5'9 240lbs btw

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>went on a binge for 4 days
>only put on 5 lbs
>195
>down from 286
>tfw only a little slip up
>tfw back on track,786 calories consumed today
>tfw those organic cheese sticks are only 80 calories
>bread is only 90 calories
>put some chicken breast or thigh skinless in it
>tfw a lb of broccoli
>a green drink
>eggs
Tdee is 2300, 5'6 male
>tfw can eat 1900 and lose 1.3 lbs a week
>going to eat 1800
>trying to get to 170 by christmas for the MEGA binge

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>>42662358
just 22 lbs more to go but it's hard to loose weight as a womanlet whose TDEE is 1500kcal so that a minimum of 1200kcal per day is needed to actually loose a bit of weight. i really want to better myself because i always was the one fat girl in class that nobody wanted to talk to and i just want to show these whores in my class when we see each other soon that they only made me stronger by trying to take me down
>don't want to be the landwhale in the room and a materialised failure
>started to try better myself
>works
i'm fucking doing it lads we are all going to make it

>>42666084
Nice eating disorder

Metabolic age: 39
Current age: 24

What do I do lads? It's been like this since December, I get scanned per month and although my weight is going down slowly my metabolism is still shit.

Am I the only one who finds calorie tracking sites useless? I can easily remember and count everything in my head through out the day so using an app is time wasting

also the time projections for weight loss on those things just make me anxious. I don't even weight myself anymore. I'm trying to make my eating plans an actual lifestyle instead of doing it just to see my scale numbers get lower. I just make sure to keep my cals under 2000 since my tdee is 2500. I've basically accepted that this is going to take more than 6 months and that i probably wont see any legit changes until like 3 months in so im just doing this for the long haul

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>>42666111
4 months lad. I did this before and now I'll attempt it again. I'll drop at least 20lbs if i eat below my TDEE like I'm doing now. I just have to be strong again,for 4 months, i did this prior for 6. I will look like a new man and feel great however shit's going to be tough.

send professional help

>>42665186
eat 1500 calories a day. thats all the planning you need.

>>42666133
>can go to the doctor and get obscure metabolic tests that would cost me 1000s
>asks fit for advice questions you should be asking the fucking doctor
we aren't your personal doctor. The only thing you should be asking us if we have a specific henti or meme

>>42666162
Not a doctor, a trainer friend I know who has advanced equipment.

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BMI Score: 39.1

Your BMI is 39.1, which means you are classified as Obese…

>>42662549
my motivation comes from 2 sources i guess. one is that i have health related problems with my weight. im pretty sure i have sleep apnea and because im heavy i can NEVER get a good nights sleep until i lose some weight. im basically exhausted all the time. i slept 11 hours today and im still tired as fuck and drinking some coffee rn

secondly, everytime i get dressed to leave my house i feel disgusting and shameful. im a dude with a gut and a fat ass. it's gross and I feel terrible about it. I just want to wear clothes like a normal person and know i look good in them.

sometimes the motivation wears off because i dont leave my house for a while but then i do and i feel disgusting and hop back on the bandwagon

>>42666084
just eat what you want in moderation
there's no reason to binge

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>>42666275
>moderation

>>42666351
is a full belly like an orgasm to you?

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Do you guys trust the calories burned data when you leave your phone on yourself. I still try to underwater because I'm not confident that it's accurate

>>42666364
speak english man

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>>42666359
Even better.


I can go weeks on no fap and it doesn't bother me much. I can power through boners and think of some other shit and it will go away. Cravings? It's like a force that takes over me, something very powerful, i can't control it. It's stronger than my sexual desires. When i bust a nut the euphoria's gone, however when I go on a binge. I can extend the experience of the food by chewing slower. After I'm done eating,my belly's full and the pain feels good.

>>42666395
then I can't relate at all
I've nearly choked because I'm just wolfing the food down so quickly, I don't even taste it
In binge mode I just need the carbiest, sugariest food and plenty of it.
A bit of variety so it goes down easier.

I'm almost sure I've traded one eating disorder for another.
I hope I can figure it out before I lose all my loss gains again.

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>>42661934
I'm doing nofap. I'm currently on day 7 and can't stop thinking about porn.

>lift 3 days a week
>cardio 3 days a week
>IF on weekdays
>water fast weekends
Is this a decent plan?

>>42666388
Fuck you sir, answer to my query

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> 5 hours left before bed
> just ate a 1200 pizza
> still 1100 below TDEE

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>>42662358
21kg. maybe more. probably more.

>>42661131
uh anyone here do body weight exercises? and can you recommend any?

>10lbs over 3 weeks
Kinda disappointed, but that should speed up now that I'm lifting and doing cardio

>>42661151
I tried vegan for two weeks but it was honestly too hard for me. Not having dairy is probably the hardest part. I'm still doing vegetarian for a month strong and the results have been very good for my weight loss. Meats are calorie dense and I honestly don't miss eating it as much as I thought I would.

soon

>>42661131
Fellow fats and postfats, are there any things I can do as a fat to avoid loose skin and make stretch marks heal/fade?

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Can you guys give me feedback I've lost 50lb I have another 48lb to go . I'm on 1500 ovals a day lift a basic dumbbell routine twice a week and hike 15 miles a week over 2 days generally. I'm concerned about by boobs they are not receding and my hips seems like a woman's. Is there any hope would would you classify my body shape as when lean? I'm worried my gut will never leave as well.

>>42666133
>metabolic age

i've never heard about this before, i've heard about 'body age' which apparently they can meassure with a machine

is that your TDEE or what? metabolic age hmm

>>42667097
don't get fat
that's seriously it, the elastic doesn't come back by any meaningful degree

telltale signs of loose skin are either stretchmarks where new skin has grown to accomodate the extra girth, or if you've just been fat for a really long time

>>42666184
im 37

we're gonna make it some day, facing reality is the first step

>>42667141
>I have another 48lb to go

more like 84

>>42667207
48 takes me to 160lb at 6ft there's no muscle masses speak of on my body. Do you recommend lower target? 160lb is arbitrary but it's my lowest as an adult.

>>42667141
keep doing cardio and you absolutely WILL lose those titties and handles.

>>42667141
height?

>>42662549
My motivation comes from the mental benefit of being fit. Want to get into med school so every bit of mental boost helps alot.

>>42667253
6ft, though my ex said 5 11 she was a bitch though

>>42667244
>losing titties
citation needed

>>42667343
Does it look like gyno or just fat distribution?

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In terms of fat/weight gain, what is a worse cheat meal?
>quarter pounder + large fries
>half a pepperoni pizza
I got the latter my last 2 saturdays but I'm unhappy with my weight loss so far

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>>42667412
>half a pepperoni pizza
>half
amateur

>>42667412
Choose a salad why cheat yourself

>>42667400
why do you think the surgery exists? You would have to get to holocaust levels in order to lose all the fat deposits

>>42667439
It's not really a cheat meal, I just let myself eat out on Saturdays.

>>42667433
It was a pretty big pizza. Those 4 slices were larger than some "small pizzas" I've eaten.

>>42667343
it will remove chub tits not terrible gyno. fork over some duckets to get rid of your curse

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>>42667412
>cheat meals

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>>42661934
I ate 6 Oreos today, my mom sent me a "care package" thing at college filled with pop tarts and ramen and all sorts of junk food.
I told her numerous times I wanted to diet in college.
I still love her.

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>>42661934

I ate two bags of lays salt and vinegar chips instead of a normal fucking breakfast.

Being a west coast fag and having meetings with east coast fags is bullshit. gotta wake up by fucking 5 in the god damn morning or else you'll miss that fucking meeting.

no one to blame but myself desu

>>42667549
you shouldn't
she has vowed to sabotage you by any means possible

>>42667549
Lol just throw it out nigga

>>42667526
>>42667458
I think I'm going to loose 48 more pounds and see what it looks like. Don't feel any thing except fat there and I've found I lose weight off my stomach and chest last.

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>>42661131
The Burned Calories thing is off right? How can I accurately determine how much I burned or at least estimate?

>>42667097
stretchmarks fade (turn lighter) over time but never go away

Skin has a limit to how much it can stretch back into a normal body
you can look up websites and youtube on what you can do to give yourself a better chance

>losing weight slowly, zinc and vitamin c also help, drink lots of water every day.

But sadly gong from something like 300+ to 180, you are going to have loose skin.
how much is up to your genetics (every body is different ) and what you do to help ( as stated above )

If loose skin is a big issue for you you only really have 3 options
Surgery
Getting over it and living with it
Or once your skin stops re-tightening ( can take time to determine when, that is why going slow helps ) Just stop losing weight and start filling out with muscle best as you can.

This is as I understand it from what I have read and watched and I don't claim to be an expert and anyone here who claims they are should be listened to with a grain of salt.
I advise you to do some research and loko into this information on your own.

>>42662486
DINGDINGDING

>>42667097
you will have bad stretchmarks and loose skin if you lose 100+ lbs. My friend just dropped 89lbs and looks like a normal human, there's a ton of factors at play with it some people are just lucky, but basically the best solution is don't get fat.

Which kind of makes me sad, I really wish they showed us stretchmarks in HS or middle school, maybe then I would've wised up

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>tfw ate 1644 calories today
>Waaay below my TDEE
Feels good lads

>>42662385
That's not how you greentext but I feel you newfriend
Have a friend who's dad had him so late he had dementia before we even got out of highschool.

>>42662400
You don't feel good when you're on a huge cut for a long time, add in you talking about having to eat to not faint and not working out then you have a pretty obvious issue.
You don't feel better because you aren't healthy, keep losing weight but you have to do cardio to be healthy anon.
Lifting will make you look good and fix posture issues.
Keep losing weight but if I was you I would stay from 1500-2000 calories and start doing more exercise.

Eat healthier foods too, go on the site cronometer and see what vitamins you are missing out on.
Lacking B vitamins will make you pretty unhappy and you want those sweet as vitamin A gains too.

>>42662452
>Now what?
You know where you are.
Post tits is now what.

>>42662559
That feel you felt I've felt that feel. Get a better scale.

>>42662640
Assuming bait but on the chance not then it's obvious that both women and men do this.
Attractive people get treated well, ugly people don't.
It's how people are, it's shitty but it doesn't make people horrible.
Don't be a r9k faggot and instead realize that people are shallow when it comes to picking a partner.

>>42662854
Little Debbie Swiss Roll.
Hostess Ho Ho.
Get your shit together, Anon. It's a fat thread for fucks sake.

>>42667973
156 min is quite a lot of walking, it might be pretty accurate.
I'd say if you're going to be this active every day, just eat whatever your inactive estimate is. That way you'll be a cool 1000 under and lose 1 kg / week.
Now just make this a habit.

>>42667629
As you get older you will understand this Anon
>>42667636
was correct
Mothers think they love their sons, but precious few do anything but damage.

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>>42662358
When I started back in November: 115kg
Right now: approx 100kg
Final goal: 90kg

Already spoke to a surgeon about getting my gyno fixed come the winter - I'm really fucking hyped, since I think the breast tissue (not the fat) alone weighs 2-3kg and has made me self conscious for years. My BF% has went down from around 30% through to just below 25%, so I'm really excited. Still a flabass, but compared to what I was I'm doing great.

Pic related. Where I'm at atm from the front.

>>42668499
nice tits, dude

>>42668521
I've been really self-conscious about them for years - they came about when I was 14, and now I've had them for nearly ten years. I've been afraid to take my shirt off or flirt with girls because of them; I used to get mocked, groped, and harassed at school for them pretty badly and it helped fuck up my confidence. So hyped to get them removed come this winter; I can finally do it, since I've lost enough weigjt.

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>>42668553
nice to hear man, keep losing and keep lifting .

>>42668393
Okay will do thanks anon.

What's a good low cal, filling veggie to snack on during the day
Carrots?

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>253 lb
August was the month I finished my heroic Shadow Warrior playthrough. September will be the month that I weigh in under 250.

>>42667141

Some perspective that may help you set your target, I'm 6'1 and started as a 245lb fatass with absolutely no muscle like you. I didn't really lift until I lost all of the weight, at 160lbs I reached 'skinnyfat', I looked slim with my clothes on (size small t-shirt, 30 inch waist etc) but still had a reasonable amount of stomach/thigh fat, they were my stubborn areas.

It had to reach the 140-145lb range to look 'lean' (flat stomach, no moobs at all etc). When you have zero muscle expect to aim about 15-20lbs lower than what most people consider to be a healthy/average weight.

Stay strong though, the gut WILL leave, if you're anything like me it'll be the last thing to go though.

>>42667688
You NEED to lift.
Take this from a 6'6" guy who is 185 pounds with lovehandles and tits.
Lift goddamn you escape this cycle, don't be lazy and just lose weight.

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>lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks just on diet alone
>went to the weight room for the first time ever
>wasn't too bad, got all my weights recorded
>going to do cardio tomorrow
>just about under 200 pounds
>was able to look at myself in the mirror today while brushing and shaving for the first time in years
I'm going to make bros. We're all gonna make it.

>>42668553
I'm really glad I never had gyno. Just child-bearing hips due to my genetics pushing most fat in my ass and legs.

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>>42668708
I don't even know you, but we're in this together anon

>>42666189
>im pretty sure i have sleep apnea
I am 100% positive you do, I had the exact same problem I could sleep from 10PM to 2PM the next day and still feel tired and yawning all day long. I went for a sleep study and they said I would stop breathing for up to 4 minutes. I had a very bad case of sleep apnea and if I didn't do something about it they said I could die within 6 months to a year. It is not a joke, losing weight helps but it can effect you for a very long time. You need to get a CPAP machine ASAP, if you can't afford it try insurance or family or friend or craigslist. But do not fuck around with sleep apnea unless you want to be sleeping six feet under. Good luck anon, I have been fighting the demons for almost 20 years, I am finally starting to make some progress but just don't ever give up until you are dead.

>>42662093
Brah, hang in there! You will thank yourself later for having the integrity to forgo these delights. Think of your future self!

>>42662400
>Fully a third of my calories every day is sugar soda


Just end it.

I was thinking about doing an enema to try and flush myself out. I heard there might be a few pounds worth of shit in my body. Has anybody tried this with any kind of results or is it not worth doing?

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/fat/, I am closing in on my goal of 185. Thank you very much for your hospitality. You have motivated me and pushed me through it all. I can not thank you enough, hearing everyone's stories, triumphs, and downfalls let me know that I was not the only one struggling. Thank you /fat/ you changed my life.

>>42662917
God, my girlfriend tells me she wants me to stay "big" so she has something to cuddle with. I know it's a straight lie to make me feel okay about failing. She is just looking out for me and our relationship but it feels so bad. She's skinny and I don't deserve her body, so I decided I'm losing this fucking fat. If she is going to give me a perfect body I'm giving her one too.

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What is this bullshit

>>42669026
Women have this natural tick they can't control to see men fail. My gf told me I go to the gym to much and that I'm not allowed to be skinnier than her. It's not just you bro, it's all men that have a gf

>>42669053
>I'm not allowed to be skinnier than her
well you'd better not be, you've got the test advantage

>>42661131
Hey OP I'm 6'4" and about 202-203 pounds with about 10% bodyweight but I want to get down to 190, do I qualify for this thread?

>>42669277
*10% bodyFAT, excuse me

>>42662472
read brain over binge

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started lifting along with eating at a 500 calorie deficit for about 2 months now.

recently i've seen the numbers on my lifts start to stagnate. i've even been doing a bit worse each time with my squats for the past few workouts.

this is normal right? my noob gains are running out and i'm not eating enough calories to grow muscle or something? i just hope i'm not losing any muscle due to being on a calorie deficit.

>>42662385
My short term goal is 8 lbs away (250 lbs down from 325) almost 70 lbs lost from the start.

My very long term goal is 15-17 bf%.

>>42669371

Body weight and average daily protein pls.

You... are tracking your protein intake...right?

>>42669393

i'm at 179 lbs currently.

i've been reaching my goal of 155g of protein every day. been eating more than that some days even since i started making protein shakes.

>>42669371
Sounds about right. Noob gains finished. Be prepared to slowly lose strength while your weight decreases. The more you lift, the slower the strength goes.

>>42669371

More thoughts

>>42669393

Also, how much rest are you giving your body between exercises? Especially at a deficit you might have to give your legs more rest than your arms.

There is genuinely a million things you'd want to consider before defaulting to diet. You can't do anything about diet, you have to eat at a deficit, but there are other things you can try to keep progressing.

1. Try taking at least 5 days off in a row, your body just might be fatigued and need rest. Most people can only do day on day off for so long before needing an extended rest.
2. Make sure you are eating at least one proton per pound of body weight.
3. Try changing your set and rep numbers. If you are stalled at 3x5 or 5x5 try switching to 3x8 or 3x10 and start with less weight than you are at currently. Deweight/downweight whenever you hit a wall and keep doing so until you finish your set. Do this multiple times an exercise if necessary. Go up in weight whenever you can successfully finish your set.
4. Look into new exercises/new lifts. There are thousands of ways to hit the same muscles and mixing it up just might be what you need to break your plateau.

I plateaued my lifts and got a weight rebound three weeks into my diet. I have been doing SS split, where I go every day and alternate exercises. Squat and Chinups one day, then Bench/ShoulderPress and Deadlift the next day, plus accessories every day. Rest day once per week. Am I overdoing it?

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>>42669500

>Squat and Chinups one day, then Bench/ShoulderPress and Deadlift the next day, plus accessories every day. Rest day once per week

Doesn't even rippletits say to only go 5 days a week on SS anon? It is highly likely you are overdoing it.

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>>42669457
>>42669456

thanks for the advice.

i haven't been timing my breaks, but i'm guessing i give myself 1-2 minutes of rest between sets.

i'll also try to get more protein, and look into routines other than the stripped 5x5 i've been doing for these two months.

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Alright I binged 3000 calories today after 3 and a half months of eating 1200-1500 calories. I'm going to try not to eat for the next two days.

>>42669868
Or just continue normally, 1 day eating 3k calories in 3 months isn't going to set you back

>>42669629
Should I? I guess I can take it easier. I just like not having to do Squats and Deadlifts every day.

>>42668360
not that anon but
>but it doesn't make people horrible
it kida does actually

Hi, I'm new to fit. I'm going to have bariatric surgery in a few months(gastric sleeve). Anyone had a similar experience? Any advice?

>>42661209
All my fat goes to my stomach and thighs, I look like an olive

/fat/

How do I gain weight? I'm 6'4" weigh 165 I've gained 30 good pounds but I'm stagnant now.

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>>42661934
I just wanna down the 4 beers in the cooler

>>42669020
I'm proud of you, my good man. You were in a tough situation, but you held strong and patient and you made it through. I'm/fat/ could help you. It genuinely is ultimate comfy.

Also how tall are you? Got any progress pics? I wanna mire your progress

I was about 238 pounds when I started, around thirty years old, and am going for it lads. Will I end up with loose skin? It's not as though I'm losing a hundred pounds or more, and my skin isn't quite middle aged yet.

>>42669026
>my girlfriend tells me she wants me to stay "big" so she has something to cuddle with
mine too, but she's literally got deformed taste and likes it for real. She doesn't stop me from losing weight, just sometimes sadly points out that I'm skinnier than I used to be and she liked it.

>>42662765
>You're a cunt.
All this letter soup just to call someone that. Next time try and be more concise so we don't have to read all these worthless implications you have pulled out your bare ass. thanks!
>>42662893
Sorry to hear you have had to deal with it too. I've never experienced girls doing this, they just usually ignore the guy they don't find attractive and are less aggressive about showing how much their opinion matters.
Then again being invisible is not a big deal. Just like getting rejected. Everyone has rights to choose who they find attractive. However, no one deserves to get shit just because they don't comply to someone’s standards of beauty. If you hate on someone or try and humiliate them publicly expect to get the same in return especially if the person is trying to lose weight. But who cares, right?
>>42662917
Well, fatties have lesser options when it comes to both guys and girls. That's just how it is but again, I don't see any problem with that. We like what we like.
>>42663075
>Overcome your shitty hormones
Wait. What?
>>42663153
If by diet you mean IF... For fucks sake it is not a diet.
>>42663361
Oh no worries, I have some 3-5kg left to go until men start again eating out of the palm of my hand. I just never realized I can act like a cunt and still get validation. They do not judge women by the choices they make or by what they do. It is all about looks. Fingers crossed you find someone to love and to inspire though.
>>42663240
At least men get judged for how independent and successful they are. If women don't find you attractive, you have at least a reason to better yourself in a good way. Having a low bf% should not be considered an accomplishment in life.

>>42662208
dude your fine. when I broke the 240 mark my weight jumped up 10 lbs the next day because I ate a bunch or carbs and salt and it was 100 degrees out. It came back down after 3 days and then I was right back on it.
This happens like 3 times a month to me, but the average weight I loose is still steady.
Point is, some people hold water easier.