/fat/ - the cat wants you to stop Edition

>>42620035
/fph/ will always be superior to /fat/

Sorry butter guzzlers

>>42620047
They are entirely different. I go to both. FPH reminds me of the bullets I've dodged. I got hit by diabeetus, but it's a small price to pay compared to the shit on there.

I’m digging these cat OPs

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It's time my child. Yes, it's time for your daily confession.

CONFESS.

>>42620047

>Not understanding that FPH is where people from /fat/ go to find motivation to keep working at it.

Never gonna make it.

Had riced cauliflower today and it was fucking delicious. Have always hated cauliflower but decided to try it out cause i need to work in more veggies on keto. God damn, I've been missing out completely. Also went to get fitted for my new work uniform today. Apparently i fit into fucking medium shirts and 34 pants. Down from XL and 40 pants. I'm so happy. Ignore me, sorry.

What is the actual need for this general? I lost 5lbs in a week by just not eating. Do you really need that much strategy to lose weight? All the advice here just boils down to eating less. Who cares if I'll be a DYEL in the end. I'll be thinner and that's all I want.

>>42620089
I’m back up to 130. Moving to Ireland on Saturday, going away party tomorrow. I guess I’ll get back on track Saturday...

>>42620103

>I lost 5lbs in a week by just not eating.

Water weight dude.

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stop creating non wojak fat threads OP for fucks sake

>TFW you can stop the cravings by reminding yourself just how miserable you feel in your day to day being a gargantuan fat fuck.

5 minutes of pleasure is not worth a lifetime of misery brothers.

Why does every day feel like a week? Will this shit stop?

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>>42620133
Exactly.

I ate dinner. Then I stumbled upon a festival with tons of food stalls, and debated eating something there. When will the opportunity arise to try these foods again?

I looked at everything there, and focused on the fact that I had just eaten and that nothing at this festival would really be a significant culinary experience.

It felt good to reject something I had started out attempting to justify.

>>42620173
enjoy it

>>42620103
"Eat less, exercise more" is good common sense but it's awful advice.

Actual weight loss needs motivation, a goal, and a plan for sustainable diet and exercise changes. That's what this thread is about.

>>42620089
I stopped seeing my weight loss therapist because I felt like I had it under control.

Did I fuck up?

>>42620277
Have you fucked up yet? If you do, will you go back to therapy?

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>>42620103
>Lost five pounds
>I know everything about weight loss!
Plenty of studies have shown that losing weight with a community increases your chances of success. This is just a good place to talk about your diet with other people who are on the same path.

>>42620303
Not yet, but yeah if I start feeling apathetic and depressed again I'll go.

I'm feeling a lot happier and in control as it stands though.

>>42620103
Then why are you here you fat faggot?

>>42620319
This is going to sound autistic as hell but some of the best weight loss discussion I've ever had was on 4chan. You fuckers really got me back on my feet.

Funnily enough most of it was on /r9k/ of all places.

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>so close to hitting my goal of sub 180 lbs
>trying to do 10 lbs per month

I want to look decent by the time my 1 year anniversary of my ex breaking up with me hits. I need that god damn change in my life. I want to go further than that but I don't want to break my body.

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Rate my macros /fat/. how is my diet?

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I relapsed and ate a large portion of orange chicken from the local chinese place after school.

Not gonna make it boys.

>>42620503

pull it together man we're all gonna make it. own up to that shit and work out afterwards.

Today I hit my goal weight of 80kg. Such an amazing feeling even though I only came down from 95kg. Took me exactly 8 months.

I think I will set my new goal weight to 75kg but I know its going to take a while. Any advise guys? So far I have not plateau once so I think my calorie intake is pretty good.

Didn't take any before and after pictures which I regret but I can see the difference myself.

>>42620089
My gf came back out here for her next semester and I surprised her with a large double bacon, extra chest pizza and some jalapeño bacon cheesy bread. She said I'm an asshole for bringing her bacon (her kryptonite) and them we split everything. We ate, we fugged and cuddled. Somehow I still came in under my TDEE for the day but I still felt so dirty.

>>42620475
y so little?

>day 3 of <10g carbs
how in the fuck do ketofags function like this?
I couldn't go 2 rounds with a toddler right now.

this was just an experiment to me because all I had in the house was frozen chicken and cottage cheese
I'm gonna make porridge tomorrow morning or I'm never gonna get through my shift

Hey /fat/ what are some good snacks for in between meals? Right now I'm having some fruit but I'd like to raise my protein and drop my carb count a bit right. Only thing is I fucking hate beef for some reason don't ask me why, so anything with beef is out of the question

>>42620745
>beef
>snack
are you american?

>>42620745

tuna brudda

>>42620745
Nuts.

>>42620677
I'm cutting since i'm sedentary, i'm not interesting into getting natty at the moment.

>>42620755

Yes

>>42620745
A snack in between meals? How about a fucking glass of water?

>>42620809

I eat a very late dinner because I travel far for work and if I'm not fucking starving to death on my way home it's easier to stick to the plan

>>42620824
Okay so water and a caffeine pill and a shut the fuck up.

>been eating 1400-1500 kcals daily this week
>increased the weight of one of my lifts
>scale says my weight hasn't changed
God damn it.

>>42620824
ice cream sandwiches and chocolate milk
now quit whining

<1400 calories for the day. Feeling full as fuck. Goin to bed early.

We're all gonna make it guys

>>42620745
Something easily portioned, like a string cheese or a handful of nuts.

>>42620809
>>42620869
Snacking isn't a bad idea just because it isn't IF. His not wanting to come home ravenous and eat everything in sight is a solid solution to a real problem.

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how many of you do weekly weigh-ins on Friday? I'm ready to go

>>42620978
I do mine on mondays, post results though!

>>42620925
>Snacking isn't a bad idea just because it isn't IF.
back the fuck up
who mentioned IF?

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>>42620978
I'm nervous about tomorrow. I'm lifting at the same time I'm cutting, so if I ever increase my lifts (which I did this week), the scale just says I didn't lose much, or possibly even gained weight.

I know that's par for the course and makes sense, but it's still discouraging.

>>42620991
Nobody. I brought it up because that's the only conceivable reason I could think of to be against snacking.

If you aren't fasting or doing IF or OMAD, why would it matter when you get your calories as long as you are eating at a deficit?

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unironically starving myself for aesthetics.

feels terrible mentally, but I look fucking Joocy in the gym mirrors. Striations are visible in good lighting now.

>>42620089
Ran 2 miles for the first time in years today. Celebrated with chiken tendys.

>>42621066
Was it on a hamster wheel?
coz that's where you are right now

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i feel really inspired to lose weight now. not because i want to get big, fuck hot chicks, get my oneitis, make it for zyzz, make it for some relative who died so that i could honor their memory. Im just tired of being fat.
losing weight will help my anxiety too I guess

>start to plataeu, weight stops moving for a few days then starts to climb back up by 0.1kg or so each morning, start eating less in response
>stay at 68.1 for a few days, then 67.5, then back
>decide its time for a monthly takeaway, arrives at 23:00, large fish and chips followed by a slice of cheesecake, more calories in one meal than I eat in a day, wolf it down, regret, feel bloated etc etc
>next morning monster shit ensues, measure at 10:00
>dropped to 67.1

Well ok, I wish I had a deeper understanding of how weight fluctuations work

>>42621093
you have ridiculous expectations my man
you'll be you, but smaller
that's it

>>42621098
precisely why I stopped weighing myself
I'm more content to see 4 or 5 pounds every few months than nothing for weeks

>>42620581

>Intermittent fasting might benefit you
>so might occasionally fasting for a day
>work out a meal plan
>you can lose a 15kg a lot quicker than 8 months if you want to push yourself, eat less exercise more
>learn how to season food or you'll want to kill yourself from monotomy

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>tfw lost 25 pounds
5 more to go until normal BMI

>lost 170lbs
>don't even care
dunno why I keep coming back here

>>42621153

Before and after pics

>>42621162
unsee
.cc/musaroti

I know I'm a skinnyfat mess now, but getting /fit/ was never my intention

>>42620755
>what is beef jerky

get fucked pleb

>>42621218
are you american too?
I've never seen a shop that sells jerky here

>>42621087
I mean I'm still 1500 under TDEE,

I literally just ate the tendies and some eggs for breakfast.

>>42621222
Man, I'm in Japan and they have beef jerky in every convenience store. Where are you, India?

>>42620047
>somehow mistaking /fph/ for /fat/

stay retarded, friendo

>>42620277
keep a food log. as soon as you struggle to lose weight, that's when you should see your therapist.

they can help with the plateau.

>>42620277
you having doubts that you can make it without someone holding your hand?

that's not a jab at you, it's just that support won't always be there
if you can't make it alone, you can't make it

>>42621013
Even without IF you'd probably be more satisfied adding those calories into your meals than snacking throughout the day

fat fucks

>>42621739
He's not talking about snacking throughout the day, he's talking about one snack to curb hunger so that he doesn't overeat at dinner.

Is this really a new concept to you guys?

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>>42620089
I didn't have to eat this gift cookie, but I did anyway.

>>42620108
I'm Irish. Hi.

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>>42611783
318 today, same as yesterday, v7lbs from start.

No treadmill today, 61.4mi total.

>>42620865
>lose fat
>build muscle
>be surprised weight has not changed

>be me
>weigh 400 lbs (395)
>go to China for reasons
>go to inland Chinese city where it's incredibly rare to see foreigners
>everyone staring and taking pictures
>more curious than disgusted
>walking a ton every day
>eating less
>shirt that would occasionally flash my gut as I walked now fits better

So a lot of points to talk about, but the main point should be that just living in a city like this, where you walk at least three miles everyday and food is of a much higher quality in much smaller portions, has helped out my weight immensely. Since I'm so big and losing weight would be a life-changing thing, I'm thinking of moving to a big city. I have the finances and education/Jon experience to go through with it.

Should I?

>>42622102
Weight loss alone really doesn't seem like a good enough reason to move, but if you have the means, do what's best for you.

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>>42622102
There's no reason not to, but don't think moving a magically change you.

I expected a magic change when I moved to a city in Japan, and I only got fatter (until I started putting in conscious effort).

So if you want to live in a city because you like city living, do that. But if you want to live in a city to help you lose weight, don't do that.

>>42622161
Hey, anon, I think I asked you this before, but didn't get an answer: What's the Japanese attitude towards fatties? Do they really get shamed a lot?

>>42622170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwH3rA8Evow
Worth the watch if you're wondering

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>>42622170
I mean, in my personal experience nobody has said anything negative to me except a few punk teenagers. Some people commented on my weight, but it isn't malicious or shaming, it's just a different attitude toward weight.

Fat people in general are fairly rare where I am. There is only one high school student in the school of 700 that is visibly overweight. She doesn't appear to get picked on that I've seen.

That being said, I've gotten several complements on weight loss.

I'm not sure the general attitude, but I've never seen a morbidly obese person in my city at all.

>>42620240
Shut up you stupid ass. You said the same thing twice. Fucking faggot!?

>>42622212
Wait, what?

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New to fit/ want to get a routine going, 6ft 120kg, started looking online about work out routines and read the stickies about cutting etc,

thoughts on this?

20 body weight squats.
10 push ups.
10 minutes of Jump rope
10 dumbbell rows
15 second plank.
30 jumping Jacks.
Repeat for e.g. rounds.

Is there anything i should add or remove? i do have an excercise bike that isnt used but i dont know if its actually a useful device for losing weight, Thoughts?

>>42622161
Thanks for the input may, I had a feeling that this was similar to the "more to a new city for to reinvent myself" thought process.

>>42622227
>get a routine going

Don't wait, just start. That's fine to start. Do more when it gets easy. Lift heavier to build more muscle. Just start doing something man.

>>42622227
Useful device for losing weight is not eating anon. You should first focus on just losing weight by cutting and maybe doing some cardio.

>>42622194
Damn, I wish we had that attitude in the West. Especially love the fat tax.

>>42622203
oh, they're bananas, I thought they were sausages

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I've asked this before, but 8 months cutting and its clear I need to lift more but anyone got any suggestions for a routine?

I'm stuck deciding if I go for a three day a week split and cardio every other day because I really want to lose my belly fat, or if I just go for a five or six day program and just concentrate on my lifts.

>>42622245
Thats what the jump rope is for? i heard its really good for cardio and weight loss, and i am cutting ive still have 1400 calories left today and its 3:30 pm.

>>42622265
Well, what are you doing now?

You're not locked into anything, man. You can anyways switch if you want to. Start with 3 days because it's less demanding. If you want to do more, switch.

>>42622272
Jump rope, running, or the exersise bike.
How much are you cutting?

>>42622284
I've been following my friends routine on and off for the last two months, but I can't really follow his routine as its a bit too difficult for me, so I was looking for alternatives.

>>42622300
So read SS and do SS. It's an easy start. As you try stronger you can switch.

>>42622292
I put all the foods and exercise i did into myfitnesspal and it says i have 2100 calories left to spend, do i not eat for the rest of the night and keep it at 2100?

>>42622313
You poor bastard.

Never eat back the calories MFP gives you for exercising.

>>42622313
2100 is a lot of calories
post your TDEE and BMR

>>42622265
Im not sure if anyone told you this anon, but you're not going to gain muscle while cutting, you will only lose muscle.

the only way to gain muscle while cutting is riods, focus cardio as your exercise, until you've lost that fat, then start bulking.

If you wanted, you could bulk now, and you would gain muscle, but it would be hidden under all that fat, and you'd have to cut. better to be skinny, so you have a decent body when you start lifting, it really helps with motivation.

>>42622358
Related Q:

My plan has been to cut to 10-15% body fat to get rid of as much fat as I can before bulking to gain muscle.

A friend who has far more lifting experience but isn't very fat claims that'll just give me loose skin, and I should cut to a healthy weight and then immediately bulk.

Thoughts?

>>42622347
BMR - Kilocalories per day 2463

TDEE - Based on your stats, the best estimate for your maintenance calories is
3,416 calories per day
(I put Moderate exercise because im a kitchen hand and i walk to and from work which alone is 40 mins not including the floating at work doing tasks)

I'm tired of my glacial progress. How dumb would it be if I just fasted a shitton for a month? So I only eat breakfast and lunch on workdays so that I'm functional, and then I skip eating evening meals and weekends entirely.

Fuck, that's still only around 3lbs of deficit a week, so I need to do this for like 3 months to stop being fat. Fucking TDEE.

>>42622469
Very dumb. Fasting is totally unnecessary. If you want to lose faster increase your deficit (don't go below 1200cal a day) and exercise more.

Fasting will make you fucking miserable.

>>42622469
weight loss should be on the absolute back burner
if you're thinking about it day in-day out then of course progress will seem slow

>>42622488
>don't go below 1200cal a day
Not that anon, but why not? I'm on 1000 cal a day for about three weeks now and I feel fine. I bought some multivitamin just to be sure.

>>42622489
>weight loss should be on the absolute back burner
Where do you think you are?

>>42622530
the general for FAT loss

>>42622530
To repeat:
Stop thinking about weight loss and the days will pass quicker.

>>42622488
>>42622489
I'm aiming for 1500 a day, and I generally hit around that when I track it, but there's too much shit I can't track well (basically lunch restaurants), so I wind up losing under 1lb per week. I need a bigger deficit somehow.

Maybe I'll just eat broccoli for every meal for a month.

>>42622554
how big are you?
height and weight (and sex, on the off chance)

>>42622524
Supposedly eating so low will quicken muscle loss and fuck with metabolism.

I don't know if it's legit, but if 200 calories is all it takes to spare you from it why risk it?

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Hate myself so much i wanna off myself sometimes. Got in the rigth track for months and then my mom tempted me to eat some pizza and got off my keto. Went from 275 to 225 and now im 260.

Im basically a fat kissless virgin weeb. But I dont have the delussions like other weebs. Instead everytime i see a romance anime instead of thinking "oh god that could be me!", I think "that could never be me because im fat and that girl is way oit of my league".

I wish i could just go back in time and make myself get into a soccer club or something.

If im not fit before im 20 im gonna go ahead and just run off my house and lose myself in a forest until I die.

>>42622563
5'7, 210lbs, guy
I lost like 20lbs in 18 months, and I was actually trying for about 12 of them. Now I feel like I'm just trying random shit because just doing what I was doing isn't working as well as it used to (and it didn't ever work that great). But at least I'm making progress after years of going the other way.

>>42622598
this ain't a pity party chief
and 35lbs of fat doesn't spring up over night from "some pizza"

what did you want to get in shape for?
is it still relevant to you?

>>42622608
holy shit that's miserable progress
you're counting something wrong, figure out what it is

>>42622612
I dont even know why. I just hate my chubbiness?

I dont have other motivation than to accept myb body.

In the end im just a greedy asshole that wants everything.

>>42622642
well your self esteem could use a boost for sure

if you don't have a tangible goal then you're gonna talk yourself out of losing weight over and over again
trust me

>>42622598
Just do radio calisthenics and eat less. You're gonna make it.

>>42620089

I snuck in a dozen spoonfuls of Halo Top after hitting my calories for the day.

>>42620089
been good for 3 (THREE) days
had no choice because my last binge gave me such GI discomfort I was writhing in agony

>>42622598
You need to stop looking at it as a diet, look at it more like a lifestyle change...that's one horrible thing about keto it's not sustainable yeah you lose weight more rapidly but once you hit your goal then what? Most of those people end up falling back into Georgetown.

Weight loss is all about calories in calories out so as long as you got some thing to track them you're good to go, that slice of fucking pizza? Well work your weekly caloric intake around it, you want that burger? Put that bitch on lettuce or low carb whole grain bread. But just don't forget anon you gotta strive to throw that bitch into your caloric intake and make sure you don't go over the weekly budget.
Your calories are like a bank each day you withdraw funds from the bank for a meal.

Find it hard to quit sugary carbonated sodas? Well buy you some "0 calorie" flavor enhancers for water like mio bit remember just because it says 0 doesn't mean it's exactly 0 so don't go overboard there either.

lost 23 kgs, was worried about my health, went to a doctor who gave me a diet. Threw 2 months in the garbage with no progress. Returned to my diet, 2 days later, at 24 kgs lost.
Fuck me, you guys are great.

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>>42622684
Well at least i stoped drinking soda and juice since i started keto. I also replaced sugar with splenda.

If it wasnt for that I would probably already be 300lbs or more.

>>42622598
literally just stop being fat

>>42622639
I've come into this thread a couple times and this is how the discussion goes every time.

After all this time I've concluded that I can't work out what I'm doing wrong. My calorie counting isn't perfect but shouldn't be off by more than 100ish a day. I do cheat sometimes but its 500 or rarely 1000 extra calories. With a TDEE of 2100ish, at worst thats a deficit of 2000 calories a week, but likely more like 3000, which should be around 1lb per week, but thats not what I'm getting.

I want to try the fast to see what comes of it. Going 3-4000 calories lower per week should be easy to track, and should give an extra 1lb per week avg. If I wind up with exactly that then it does add up, and my TDEE is fucked. If that's the case, uh, I'm not really sure what to do with that information. Keep fasting?

>>42622684
It might be simple but it sure as shit ain't easy.

Some days I get by with just breakfast.
Others I'm eating nonstop and still hungry for more.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. And if I ever stopped tracking calories, i'd be on the train to fatassdom once again.

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>>42622735
Cant stop eating a lot of shit. Cant get myself to go outside. Im scared of going to gym.

I just want to stay in my desk eating snacks and watching youtube videos.

>>42622765
Same, but I spent 14 years doing that
It's not like I want to get fit to run a marathon or be the welterweight champion of the world
I just don't wanna be fat

>>42622765
Yeah, except that you don't. You hate your life, that's why you came here.

You aren't happy. Change something.

>>42620108
I moved to Dublin three years ago from NYC. Best place I've ever lived. Not leaving.

>>42620125
Seriously this

>>42622790
Ive been hating myself since i can remember me being fat. Hell I made so many jokes about how shitty was my life in hs that the guy that bullied me actually apologized to me and he wanted to help me.

>>42622765
if you don't even try, you've already lost

>>42622745
Then start eating more fibrous/fatty foods or low calorie high volume. Oats, lentils, avocados, beans, pears, broccoli, and so on Google will also tell you any thing you need to know just research low cal filling foods. Also before each meal chug a glass of water and drink a glass during eating.

>>42620710
Im at two months. Suggestion, take a week and research it and make a plan. You need to stock up on basic staples, its not suitable for winging it. Youll go thru a week or two of very low energy and feel like shit. You need to supplement salt and potassium especially. After, youll get the energy back. Im at 1500 day, 600 deficit and am down 10kg in 2 months (100 to 90)

>>42622864
I wasn't looking for advice, You don't have enough information to give it

>>42620125
leave the pink wojaks to /biz/ pls

>>42622868
too late, had some pancakes an hour ago

I'm not a turbo fatty, if I lost 10kg I'd be hospitalised.
Like I said, I was just dicking around with it. I've no intention of committing months to it, it's far too restrictive, and also expensive. (for ME, need that qualifier in there before the KetoDefenceForce reigns down on me)

>>42622827
you need to grow a spine too, how can you expect anyone to have any confidence in you if you don't have any self worth? I'm not telling you to become elliot rodger but god, pick yourself off the ground already, no one is coming to help you, no one.

you said that you lost weight before and gained it all back, I lost weight, gained it all back, wasted 3 years of my life and now i've come back and gone past the weight i lost before, you're still young, dont waste any more time. I don't want to scare you, but do yourself a favor and start today, stop comforting yourself with food, you need to feel awful for once in your life, get it out of your system. get off the computer, stop eating and get off your computer

>>42620125
fucking this
there are certain /fat/ traditions and they should be maintained for the ultimate comfy™ and benefit of all /fat/bros

>>42620035
zzzzzz I can diet pretty easily but fuck time feels like it's going slow the only thing that excites me is breaking into lower digits on my scale

>>42622965
This. I have no problem maintaining 16:8 1000 calories daily and doing couch to 5k, but it's so fucking slow holy shit I want to be thin already.

>>42622965
don't weigh yourself for about 4 weeks
seeing whole numbers drop is more satisfying than watching increments bump up and down

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Would love to open a cold one now.

But I won't.

fatniggas, what kind of supplements should I be concerned that i'm getting?

i already take a multivitamin? should i get maybe fish oil or zinc or something?

>>42623079
symptoms?

>>42623055
no, do it weekly, make sure you're on track, if you dont lose anything in a week, you have to change something, and if you go a month without check and end up gain weight, it can be devastating

>>42623086
Increasing love for fat cocks.

>>42623086
no real symptoms. just general health i suppose

also this >>42623099

>>42623074
yeah fat boy, blend up your meals and drink dem calories, yeah, yeah. Blend it all up and put it in your belly, aint got no time to chew fatboy. Add sugar, add alcohol, needs to fatten up. Drink coke and beer all day, so easy to consume, so easy, so why not? Come on, drink down 6k calories and enjoy yourself fatty fat boy.

>>42623055
I find weighing myself every day is fun, just don't take it too seriously (not every weigh-in is important- Im only recording on sundays). Sure, I see weight fluctuate, but I'm constantly seeing numbers I have not seen before as I creep lower and lower. I realize long term discipline is how you lose weight, but having some motivation is nice too. Calorie counting, meal strategy, weight watching, all turn it into a game of sorts and it's definitely increased my commitment over the last month or so. Before I started doing all this, I was losing weight, sure, but had 'cheat' days all the time because I wasnt really dieting.

>>42623320
you ok bud

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>>42623320

>January 2017
>108kg 6'2
>some muscle from doing martial arts
>not obese, but fat
>travel to Japan on a 1 year visa
>stay in the countryside and do farm work
>no access to just keep food
>lose 4kg of water weight pretty fast
>6 more come off during the next 6 months
>gain some muscle
>mfw get under 100kg for the first time in years

It's not straight up dieting or lifting, but it's doing well on me. I'm happy to wear a tight t-shirt without having side handles.

>>42623454
start taking this more seriously, anyone would lose a small amount of weight weight by switching to manual labor. If you want to continue seeing progress you need to change something.

>>42623504
Yeah I need to quit smoking and the occasional soda from the vending machines.

>>42623531
>Yeah I need to quit smoking
actually, smoking makes you lose weight

I'm cutting at 1000 calories per day while 16:8 IF for about three weeks now.
Today I didn't eat anything as my eating window started and I don't feel any hunger at all. Should I eat anyway or just fast as long as I'm not hungry?

>>42622358
>but you're not going to gain muscle while cutting

this is false

>>42620070
Can you type 'diabetes' like a normal person?

>>42623627
go eat and enjoy it.

>>42623669
I probably will, thanks.
I started having a headache, don't know if from not eating, maybe keto is activating?

>>42623673
You're killing yourself you stupid fat fuck, go and eat something.

>>42623627
Isn't 1000 kcal a bit low?

A serious question for you fatsos - is your goal simply to lose weight or to lose weight and look decent when you take your shirt off?
Most of you are starving yourselves with "1000 calories" per day and I'm 110% sure you'll end up skinnyfats in the end and relapse.

>>42623644
Yeah, it ignores the fact that a lot of us live sedentary couch lives and the mere act of beginning lifting gives a serious boost to unused flabby muscles. Mine feel fucking rock solid after only a month of lifting, I used to be able to just push them into collapsing with a finger, now I can actually flex them. You definitely gain a significant amount and it prevents your body from just cannibalizing them.

God damn I hate squatting with dumbbells. I dont want to do them. Can I just work out my arms and abs and plank? I'm losing weight 3-4 pounds a week, lifting shit sucks.

>>42623682
>>42623700
How am I killing myself though? I don't feel hungry and I eat multivitamin so I won't get scurvy or some shit. I'm doing couch to 5k and I feel fine. If I felt weak and couldn't do shit or was hungry as fuck I'd eat more, but I don't.

>>42623754
Your body is in starvation mode, you're losing whatever little muscle you once had

>>42623769
I didn't have any muscle to begin with. I'm looking to lose about 10 more kilos and then start with building some muscle.

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>gained 1kg since last week

Where did I go wrong FFS

just found a profile shot of me a year ago
fuuucking hell, I thought I looked fat from the front

>>42623806
When you put food into your mouth.

is it okay to alternate sets, like do legs, then do an arm exercise with little rest?

>>42623769
starvation mode is a meme
the only thing that happens when you're not taking in calories for a prolonged period is slight slowdown of your BMR
that's literally it, nothing else happens

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Okay... first time on /fit/
Gotta explain my situation.

> lost a ton of weight after high school
>around 200 pound at 5'9" all through it
>finally got down to 168
>feel amazing and look attractive
>me and my girlfriend get married
>moved in together
>she cooks like a fucking food network chef
>it's all delicious
>big beautiful dinner every night
>struggled through my teens with a slight drinking problem but was always kept from going full blown alcoholic due to my inability to purchase it
>turn 21
>20 beers a day, every day
>stop working out because i'm either at work, with wife, or drinking
>8 months go by
>back to 200 lbs

Today is my first day with my new health regiment. Proper diet and swimming every day mixed in with push ups and situps whenever I can. Gonna try to do 100+ of each every day. Only drinking on fridays and saturdays.
I really want to be back at least in the 170's by Christmas.

>>42623948
you're married
game over

>>42623958
Doesn't change the fact that I want to look good for my wife.
Do you really love someone if you force them to be married to fat alcoholic slob who has no intentions of changing?

>>42623891
I think it's more of an issue of sustainability. Develop good habits and a way of life and you are more likely to lose the weight and keep it off for your whole life. Of course starving yourself loses weight faster, that's not the issue. You can have that high ground. If you learn to portion your meals, count calories and change your diet to adjust for this burger king world, that's a valuable, valuable skill. It makes losing weight the next time you need to slim down 10 pounds or so, painless and easy. You're wasting your time focusing on efficiency and torture when you should be trying to make weight loss easy and fun.

You probably wont listen to me.

>>42623968
does't matter, you're married

>>42623971
tf does that have to do with health?

>>42623552
smoking curbs your appetite, it doesnt make you lose weight. don't smoke

>>42623891
Post your body

>>42623975
about as much as your proxy shame through your wife

>>42623981
Maybe when I get home. I recently stopped being outright fat and now I'm skinnyfat though.

>>42623975
you're married and that alone will fuck/is fucking your health

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>>42622598
It's not too late, for a start stop watching girly ass anime and watch something manly like DBZ.

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>>42623994
Of course it get's easier to let yourself go once your married.
But being conscience of this and trying to live a healthy life isn't a fruitless endeavor

>>42623993
Exactly what I'm saying. Starving trades being fat for being skinnyfat. A balanced diet with calorie counting and enough protein while working out leaves you with a decent body.

t. someone that fell for the starvation meme and is now fixing their mistake

>>42623969
It's fun when I see fast results though. I'm not torturing myself. I'd torture myself if I changed everything about how I eat and live and see little to no progress. I won't start eating how I ate before when I'm at the weight I want.

>>42624014
>Starving trades being fat for being skinnyfat.
not if you continue

>>42624023
everybody says that

>>42624032
You don't really think being a skinny bitch with 0 muscle is better than being a fatass right?

>>42624052
Having been both, I'd say yes

>>42624052
I actually do, yes.

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>>42623999
>watch something manly like DBZ.
>implying any anime out there is manly other than prison school

>>42624061
>>42624070
Post your bodies in the CBT and see if anyone agrees

>>42624034
I haven't been really fat though, I just needed to lose 15 kg to be skinny. I've had the same weight of 75 kilograms for years, I don't eat that much anyway.

>>42624079
I bet they don't
but you didn't ask that

>>42624074
>prison school
>manly
Where do you manliness in it?

>>42624082
No one does except those mentally ill faggots on /fa/

>>42624079
>>42624094
>>42624052
Good thing I don't do this for other people but for myself then.

>>42624094
what he said >>42624102
nothing is ever going to be good enough, I know an unwinnable game when I see one

>>42624118
or you can just eat right and lift a bit and have a decent looking body

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>>42624102
>doesnt do it for the boys on /fit/
get out fag

>>42624126
I know I can

>>42624126
Or I could lose the weight as fast as possible and then maybe start working out if I want. There is literally no difference except it's faster.

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>>42624127
>do it for the boys on /fit/
this is the only reason everyone should have to get /fit/

>>42624168
there is a difference between fat loss and muscle loss

>>42624187
When you don't have any muscles it doen't matter. Also even if muscles go along with fat, you can build them back later. And faster than it'd take to do that your way.

>>42624196
hmm, i'm not the person you were replying to, I saw someone who was trying to fast for a month and I thought it was you, I was on 1000 calories for a week to get back on track, you should look into building muscle though, its easy if you have none

>>42624168
Typical idiotic lazy fatass response. I actually expected this post.

Never change /fat/

>>42624241
Great arguments.

>>42624241
you forgot to include why

>>42623734
Just weight loss. I'll never actually look good since I was unbelievably obese. I have nothing to look forward to besides not looking like complete crud in clothes.

>>42624251
>I prefer faster shittier lazy results than actually putting effort in my diet and exercise

>>42624270
>I'm mad that someone gets faster results than me

>>42624295
Yeah sure bud, I'm mad that you'll end up a skinnyfat bitch.

You still haven't explained why starving yourself is better than a balanced diet and lifting.

>>42624251
you would lose weight faster if you lift weights and exercise. By a large margin. It also promotes better health, like stronger bones and prevents sprains. Those benefits do not start over night, they take years to acquire and the sooner you start the better.

I broke my fucking back and have to deal with chronic pain which I hope someday will go away. You will not be young forever, eventually you WILL care about your health and you'll be standing in my shoes yelling at some dumb whippersnaper on the internet. Time will change your opinion either way.

>>42624310
I'm saying it's better for fucking weight loss you retard. Of course balanced diet and lifting is great when you have low body fat and want to live healthy/gain muscles, but when fucking losing weight what works best is eating as little as you can (while of course still getting your vitamins and minerals and shit).

>>42624295
you'll end up bouncing back
you aren't some kind of genius who discovered the perfect weight loss system. its been tried before and it doesn't lead to sustainable long-term fat loss.

>>42624346
>I'm saying it's better for fucking weight loss you retard.
Why you retard? I'm saying that having a balanced deficit with the right amount of protein is better than your retarded starvation.

>>42624358
Why is it less efficient then?

>>42624367
You don't lose muscle you fucking moron skinnyfat bitch

>>42624373
Holy shit I already told you that when you don't have a lot of muscle it's faster to lose muscle along with fat and then build it again.

>>42624394
>this is what skinnyfats actually think
I'm done here. Enjoy your disgusting body. See you in a few months when you go on a "bulk" and just become fat again.

>>42622384
use sedentary to calculate, always.

>>42624407
>lists no reasons as to why he's right
>literally no arguments
Please, don't get into a discussion when you don't have anything intelligent to say.

Holy shit who else loves taking fat dumps in the morning. Maximum comfy bathroom time

>>42624517
>eating enough to shit every day
never gonna make it

For you other /fat/izens who have got their diet together, what do you guys eat for breakfast? I'm trying to introducing more variety in my breakfasts

>>42624607
porridge
erryday

I like it so why look for something else

>>42624607
boiled eggs.

>>42624607
Oats with milk and a banana

>>42624607
soylent-type liquid food

>>42624358
hmmm who to believe

>random retard on Malaysian basket weaving forum
or
>research and studies done by professionals

>>42624962
live your life anon, why so angry?

>>42623376
I'm the same way.

If I have to take a massive shit I love getting a before and after measurement on it. The idea I can drop 2 pounds just by shitting it out kinda makes weight loss amusing.

But overall it's the trend line I like seeing. And I'm OCD about this stuff so if I stopped weighing myself I'd be sure that even though I'm doing the same things I did before that I'm not losing anything.

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Anyone here drop a shit ton of weight with strict dieting,looked like a new man, and then suddenly fell off after months? I remember 8 months ago I couldn't imagine myself eating bread or a cookie, like I couldn't imagine myself being a heroin addict. But now I stopped making pre made meals and giving a fuck after i hurt my arm. can't lift for another 5 weeks and I'm at the point of falling off. anyone ever go through something like this?

>>42625098
yeah a few times now
I've probably lost hundreds of pounds

>>42625098
I did that once. I lost 170 lbs and then became depressed and gained 28 lbs back.
Just makes me not want to do that again because I would have been so much closer to being at a weight I wanted if I didn't let my feelings get in the way.

>>42624074
Season 2 is supposed to be here by Oct. Excited desu

>>42624074
This is a real manly high school animu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOEcfIrECY

>>42625098
it's weird because now that I'm in spitting distance of my goal, I find myself not caring about pigging out, but at the same time the thought of having to undo any damage seems like a huge mountain to climb that I'm not sure I can do again
whereas when I was 100+lbs from looking anywhere decent, I just got on with it and wasn't worried about seeing slow or no progress week to week

>>42625584
get on my level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkezvGwI20

>>42625584
jojo rip off and an onld shitty anime

>>42624519
Thats pretty normal

>tfw more stretch marks thans a thrice pregnant mother
i would off myself but i wanna wank in an hour or so

>>42620089
I ate shit tonnes, went for a 40min run, did a 3hr workout, and felt great. Oh and got high. Still shreddin :)

>>42626639
>i wanna wank
I've been losing weight but strangely i'm losing any desire to fap.

>>42626783
same m8, i used to wank every day but now i just dont really feeling the compulsion to do it often
still wanna sex a girl soon tho

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>>42620035
Anyone tried clenbuterol? Advice?

Is intermittent fasting legit? I've been doing it for a few weeks and I haven't really noticed results. And I'm not eating a buffet either, just a medium-large dinner.

>Tfw it's friday and finally my cheat day

I'm gonna lose all this unnecessary weight soon

>>42626858
don't do it if you're fat, i had too many sides

>>42620089
to cut calories i replaced drinking alcohol with taking DHC

>>42626929
>I haven't really noticed results.
then it didn't work for you?
you are probably counting calories like shit tho.

>>42620475
moar protein less carbs

>>42620089
I'm always good with my diet until I get invited over to a friend's house and we inevitably get pizza.

Last week I had pizza 2 days in a row.

>carb free for 4 days
>finished a huge bowl of oatmeal an hour ago
>veins popping like crazy
I'm digging it but, what?

>>42626837
>still wanna sex a girl soon tho
Oh, i wish i'd have that desire. Now it's only misery - to lose weight and have low sex drive.

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I just got a divorce.

Mom's lets me move into basement. Gonna take this to get swole and bang slutty broads.

>>42627221
Go for MILF's, they'll have their own place, so you won't have to take 'em back to mommy's.

>>42622796
I’ll be in Dublin as well, attending UCD for my masters. Are canned green beans widely available? Do you know of any non-crowded
lap pools on the south side?

>>42620824

I'm intermittern fasting 7 days a week. 16 to 18 hours no eating. 2 meals a day, 800-900 calories each and I'm also working out. My TDEE is around 2600 cals. Stop bitching about it. Have a glass of water.

>making home made pizza tonight and tomorrow
>already spent 1k cals on the dough alone (modest size)

why are there so many calories in fucking simple flour? jesus christ almighty

>>42620089
fasting today, ate 3/4 of a 8x8 brownie pan i made yesterday, the one with the real chocolate chips. Was 140 in highschool, went up to 185 after graduating college, sitting at 225 now. I'm 5'7"

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>>42627273
Already am my brother. She's 5 years older fine as hell and has 4 bastards that I'm going to pretend don't exist while I rail their mom.

How long does it take to stop craving/thinking of salty sweet fast food and bullshit?

I am eating healthy meals but two hours after my mind is telling me to get in my car and go get some fast food bullshit.

How long till my body stops being addicted to it and I won't have to fight myself as much?

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>>42627921
2 weeks

>>42627921
You don't.

>>42627977
I tried the potato mono diet after watching that one video on big think with Penn

My god

I did not succeed for two weeks like Penn did, however I did learn what being hungry feels like.

It was like day 3 I would not put another fucking potato in my god damn mouth unless my body was telling me it was absolutely nessecary.

I ended up only lasting 5 days but it taught me what being hungry really felt like and that lead to having more success with a normal diet, I've lost 30 pounds.


Thanks Penn

>>42627066
I'm big boned

@Apple

My Real Name

199lbs

Not an impressive week, but I got my first goal: under 200. Now another 2 months or so and I can be at minimal bf% for once in my life.

>>42626929
IF is just a way of eating and dealing with hunger and discipline, you still need to count calories and shit for weight loss

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>>42620089

I didn't go to the gym today, it was cardio day

I can go until 5pm but I just ate and feel like I would puke.

Would walking at night compensate or should I relax? I'm still going on saturday and sunday but the guilt is killing me.

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>>42620089

Ate all the way up to my daily calorie limit when I didn't have to at all

It bothers me that I slowed down my weight loss for some popcorn

>>42628094
You guys should try out this cool thing called America Online Instant Messenger.

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I am overweight but not obese, im 6'3 at 255-260lbs

I just noticed I got some frontal stretch marks the other week, do these go away? I got stretch marks on the sides of my lower torso when I was at 220 for a long time, like years(I think my skin is just kinda bad in that regard) and those are years old. They have faded a bit, but I am more concerned about these new ones because I know its because im fat.

They already happened but will losing enough weight like going down to 200 and maybe some cream eventually fix this shit?

These frontal stretch marks are what is finally pushing me over the edge, already found two gyms in the area and plan on starting right in September and getting a temporary personal trainer for a bit to get me set up with a good routine and teaching me proper technique.

But has anyone had stretch marks here, then worked out and got /fit/ and they eventually faded a lot? Mine arent super bad and thankfully the frontal ones are covered in a lot of hair on my stomach, but seriously fuck these, I cant be having these already at 23 years old.

So has anyone had success making them fade to almost be impossible to see eventually? Aside from working out which I am about to start(and dieting) but really fuck stretchmarks.

>>42620089
The calzone I had last night was probably too big but I only had a 300 calorie sandwich for lunch that day and I doubt the calzone was 1300 calories.

>>42627921
Never unless you completely drop the carbs

>>42628343
>I just noticed I got some frontal stretch marks the other week, do these go away
No, they fade until they are pale pink, but never disappear completely

>>42628519
>>42627982
Are you guys serious?
So you just crave fast food forever?
Does it get easier to say no to yourself?

What the fuck.

>>42628553
fuck me, my only option then is $1000s in cosmetic surgery.

>>42628343
that's obese (bmi greater than 30) stop lying to yourself.

>>42628677
That was my experience when I dieted many times in the past. If you keep eating sugar, you'll keep craving it. Never ate too much fast food, but always had a sweet tooth, so relapsing with sugar binges was a huge problem. Now I keep my carbs very low and experience no desire to eat them.

>>42628780
Eh, it's not too bad desu, you get used to it

>It's a "today was a bust, stuff my face like it's my last day alive and try again tomorrow" episode
just cannot give a shit right now

>>42628815
well I was just googling, it seems if I actually get fit they will be a lot less noticeable and since im 23, I will have years of them to fade.

>>42628795
thank you

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>>42628795
You're lying.

>>42621098
I eat low carb between 40-100g per day and a 500 Cal deficit. After stalling for a few weeks I introduced a cheat day once a week. Easily 1500 cals over my TDEE and hundreds of carbs. I haven't plataeued since. Gotta be hormones.

>>42627921
>>42628677
I find after 2-3 days i dont crave something anymore. its like the detox phase. when i dropped carbs it was like caffeine withdrawl feeling. around second day i was drooling over bread, but by third day i was ok.

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What is up my fat friends.

Today I'm picking up a 300lbs bar set.

I'm 350lbs with no job, mom's basement, recently divorced and all I got is time. Can't wait to see progress in the next couple months when I go from ham planet to Muscular ham planet.

>>42628677
cheat meal once a weak

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>>42628677
yeah. I don't stop wanting ultimate cheeseburgers. Like Sisyphus my boulder is delicious cheeseburgers and not eating them.

>go out with friends
>13lbs gained in 2 days

ffs im just going to have to ban alchohol and socialisng for six months, im clearly not allowed according to my body.

clealry 1600 is the greedy fatass limit and 400-1000 is the winner limit

>>42629133
>>42629182
>>42629258

well ballsy balls
Im just gonna hope it get's a little easier, even if it never goes away. Still better to be /fit/ than give in to the burgers.

>>42622358
Yeah, this is bad advice.

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>have been stuck at 244-245 for a week and a half now

This is starting to piss me off. I haven't fucking cheated and I only eat 1200 calories a day.

>>42627977
does he going from being

>le trash man

to being

>le potato man

Are protein powders okay to lose weight? My friend gave me some for free since I go to the gym and said I should drink a shaker the morning and after going to the gym. Will it stop me from losing weight? I'm at 105kg and I want to get to 90kg first.

>>42628789
This. I had to face the music myself, and it's why I finally started taking this seriously.
You face the facts, feel ashamed for a little bit, then realize that there are tools to use, and you take control of losing the weight.

Granted, I was a little shorter and lighter than anon, but proportionally I had a similar "obese" bmi.

And for the record, "obese" is not "morbidly obese". Don't think that you are somehow not obese just because you aren't Boogie.

>>42629553
i basically just went full angry monk and forced myself on 400 cals a day to force weight loss

going lower and staying there is the only thing that works

also just ban cheat meals.

>>42622923
NOt him but damn thank you anon, that was great advice.

>>42629586
i mean shit, do they fit your macros? building muscle through lifting and getting protein is good

im a vegetarian personally, so i use them to hit higher numbers of protein. The normal rule of thumb is that its better to eat your protein, not drink it "artificially" through supplyments, but I really struggle hitting protein numbers without.

I just shake it with milk and pour it over my oats, its a lititle calorie dense (around 600 kcal for a meal) but it saves milk and it makes my oats chocolately

I'd recommend protein shakes if you are actively lifting and going to the gym, as long as you fit the extra calories into your daily allowance

>>42629586
great way actually. you'll be able to hit your preotein requirements while staying at a caloric deficit.

I'm doing 2nd year of uni and I'm moving in with a med student and two physios, so hopefully I won't have any unhealthy roommates thus year

>>42629714
I'll fucking try but the 1200 calories I'm doing right now is already not much I don't know if I can cut it back that much.

Day 8 of water fast. Down from 172lbs to 158. Goal weight is 140.

The vast, vast majority is going to be water weight of course. I figure at most 4 lb of that is actual fat.

Spent all of today laying in bed today, too tired to move, and dreaming of the take out food I'd usually order on a Friday cheat night. Papa Johns and the local Chinese is looking real tempting...

I figure to lose the 18 lbs I want to lose, I'll need to keep this up for another 36 days. It's gonna kill me, but at least then I'll finally be rid of the last of this visceral belly fat. After 14 months of dieting from 232lbs, the road will finally be over. Wish me luck bros.

>>42629586
protein powders aren't magical steroids that give muscle, they're just easily consumable free protein to help you hit your macros that's all

I made myself a promise i was going to lose 50 pounds at the 6 month mark.. I fucked up yesterday. I ate at my TDEE. I was nearly 1.5 pounds away from my goal, now the water weight set me back about 2-3 more pounds. I know it so not a big deal, I just had to get it off my chest. What an another day or two

How the fuck do people long distance run? I've lost 100 lbs, I'm powerful as fuck, big stupid muscles but I can't run worth half a shit.

I need to be able to sustain a run for a long time within 60 days. Cut my mile to 8 minutes but I think too much, I start heavy breathing. I run until my chest siezes up and I have to stop. This is like... 8-10m in.

Tips? Tricks? Help, Pease.

>>42630047
>Cut my mile to 8 minutes but I think too much
you dont actually need to a fast mile to run long distance. start with a decent speed like 6 mph and run it for 10 min, then slowly increase it to 30 min and dont increase speed. at 30 min then increase speed to like 7.0 and start again at 10 min.

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>>42620035
>tfw weight plateaud on low carb/keto

what do?

>>42630147
Stuff your face full of carbs, see how that helps

what do when reach plateau? moar excercise?

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I have no idea what I'm doing at the gym tbqh, I just do like lat pulldowns, leg press, and some bicep and tricep machine I think, then some cardio for like 15 minutes and then I have no idea what to do next and I just leave since I'm just standing there like an autismo. I think I will not go anymore unless I hire a trainer or some shit.

>>42630411
>>42630411
NEW THREAD
>>42630411
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>>42628230
go for a walk, son