/fat/ - Last Thread Hit 300 Edition

>>42553799
Finally a thread with a fat wojak. Thanks OP

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>mfw i ate nearly 100 grams of fiber today

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finally broke a plateau bros, feels fucking good

Is the contest dead?

>ate 2130
>still below tdee by 300
>just came home after 1 hour on the treadmil at 4mph and the bike at 9 resistance for 2o minutes after

i remember when I ate 1600 calories, i felt weak and lethargic. I almost got into accidents and motor skills suffered.

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I started dieting 2 days ago on what appears to be a Keto diet, 210g protein, 25g carbs, 90g fats.

Lifting 3 times/week, I calculated a target of 1750kcal/day to lose 0.9kg/week. Problem is, my weight has been free falling for the past few DAYS. I might be underestimating what my maintenance is given my activity/metabolism or something.

Can someone give me a possible explanation? How long should I give it before I recalculate?

hey bitches, school started and i started counting my calories better.

I was pretty unfair to you superfats for a while.

When I was my heaviest, losing weight was so easy. And it wasn't even the increased TDEE, I had no problem living off 500-1000kcal a day. I sailed through 150+lbs of weight loss and time went by so fast.

But lately, let's just say I get it now.
The pangs, the cravings, the binges, the disgust, the turmoil of it all. It took it's time hitting me but it's fucking hitting me now.

Here's hoping there's light at the end of the tunnel, for all of us.

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Confess

>>42554060
>>42554100
Good work!

>>42554111
Temporarily.

>>42554449
i ate a chocolate bar and put caramel syrup in my coffee

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>>42554449
I have drank 5 beers today

>>42554279
That is way too much protein and not enough fat to be a keto diet

>>42554482
That's fine, I didn't aim for it to be Keto anyway.

What about my question?

>>42554449
A whole garlic baguette.

>>42554449
I ate 1 (one) chocolate digestive with my coffee

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Just hit 240 today from 310 in late March.

Stalled a bit last few weeks but feels good to be back on track.

Would like to hit 200 by Christmas.

Pic semi-related because we go on walks together.

>>42554449
Voted trump

>>42554527
Progress pics?

>>42554574
Today? Are the polls still open?

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nth for loving Lily

Guess today is my cheat day. Ending around maintenance or just slightly below.

>>42554449
Having 6 chicken wangs tonight

>>42554449

thinking about thos Beans

>>42554449
I have not consumed anything but water and salt since Sunday. I've lost over 17 pounds 178 > 160.4 at 5'9".

>inb4 you'll lose muscle mass.

Look up Dr. Jason Fung and get red pilled the fuck out. Studies show less muscle loss than moderate daily caloric restriction + increased levels of human growth hormone + higher BMR in the long term. I'd rather go through 14 days of hell than 6 months of hell.

>>42554472
Was it worth it? I have had maybe 10 beers total in the last three months but I'm really considering grabbing a six pack tonight because I have had a really stressful week at work. I could probably still be around maintenance calories if I don't eat anything else, but my macros will suck.

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>>42554638

Top left picture is like the only before I have.

>>42555262
Looking good anon. You really got face gains. Keep it up.

>>42555040

I've fasted a few days here and there so I can't really condemn it but my only issue with people going straight into water fasting is that they never learn about actual nutrition so they just end up gaining the weight back once it's done.

>>42555262
sorry about your face

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>>42555288

Considering not eating tomorrow or the next day and just getting a bunch of gum and diet beverages to tide me over. I honestly kind of suck at willpower and binge sometimes after too long/severe of restriction. If I chew gum & drink diet soda/black coffee a bunch will I be able to do it?

>>42554912
It was good I am nice. Wont eat till tomorrow 2PM for them 20 hours fast

>>42555362
you have a problem with binging and you want to starve yourself?
are you fucking about or what

>>42554449
ordered a Burger yesterday when I already hit my calorie limit. cut six hundred extra calories out today to make up for it. doing the same tomorrow.

>>42555362
there are no shortcuts to losing weight. Diet and workout properly.

>>42555362
Probably not?

>>42555679
I know nobody reads the OP, but this should be in it.

>>42554449
I did good all day, father, I ate an omelet this morning gonna make some chicken breast and steam some broccoli for dinner. I did have a nos today and Im so fucking sorry. I needed it so badly, padre. Im just starting out with dieting and exercising regularly but i needed my daily /sip/ please forgive my soul

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>>42555709
monster ultra lad

>>42555758
Don't even start with me about that syrupy bile.

>>42554449
I'm dying for candy, so I pulverized some fruit and heated it up with lemon juice, gelatin, water and some stevia. I'm waiting for it to cool so I can put it in my molds and have gummies.
I'll let you know if it was gross later.

@apple

>201

No progress cause friends are in town for the week and they want to drink every day. Sucks but I'm paying for it all for the rest of the week

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Hi friends,

I've run into an odd predicament after losing a good amount of weight - tshirts SUCK on me.

I'll elaborate. Look at pic related. Ta-da, tis me. If you look at my back, you'll notice it's way wider than my waist - which is fine, because I have a lot of muscle there, but it makes shirts look AWFUL. Essentially, they just fall off my back and make it look like I've lost no weight which really pisses me off.

Any tips on this? Also just body tips in general for how I can look more aesthetic/fit?

t. started at 250 lbs now down to 200

pic related is me, unflexed (can post flexing but no idea how that'd help when this is about clothing)

>>42554449
I started drinking black coffee while on IF. Is it going to fuck up my fat burning?

>>42555652
>ordered a Burger yesterday when I already hit my calorie limit. cut six hundred extra calories out today to make up for it.

Well nobody's perfect but at least you fixed the situation the best you could.

>doing the same tomorrow.
Not going to make it

>>42554449
After the gym last night I bought 120g of fried chicken. I was still under my calorie goal but it fucked my macros up and it was clearly a loss of willpower.

Is losing willpower confession worthy of you aren't destroying your progress? Moderation has been very successful for me. I'm afraid I'll go overboard at some point, but all of my actual breajdowns haven't even touched my TDEE.

What do you guys think of lifting while fasting? I'm talking not eating at all during the day, then getting a nice lift in, and resuming eating the next day.

Would that fuck up gains?

>>42555865
go down a size in shirts

>>42555902
Doesn't seem to fix the issue. Only marginally better.

>>42555900
You won't lift as well, since you'll have less energy. You won't build much muscle if any since you haven't consumed any protein that day.

So yes ,it will fuck up gains.

>>42555915
So my follow-up question is that I actually did this today and my lifts were great - like, far better than normal. Will I still get the same muscular gain though? Will fasting inhibit that sweet protein synthesis?

So I'm on a cico diet with low carb (not keto) but I've noticed on mfp I'm going over my carb limit with my vegetables are vegetable carbs the "good kind i keep hearing about?

>>42555937
I'm not a scientist, but since fasting means no protein intake for the day you'd obviously have less protein to work with. There's a reason protein macros are daily goals.

>>42555888
we'll see

>>42555838
It's kill for now, check last thread.

>>42555876
Why would it?
No calories m8, water doesn't affect you so why would coffee do it?
Remember coffee is just water, drugs, and tannins.

>>42555937
Bodies work differently and protein windows are still a debated thing, we're not sure how much they affect lifting.
The other anon saying
>There's a reason protein macros are daily goals.
Means nothing, they are a daily goal because that's how people portion nutrition, daily.
Just like how saying you should eat 1500 calories a day or 10500 calories a week, same thing.
Now I'm not saying you will get the same results, it should be harder to push yourself and protein window (protein eaten with x amount of hours from lifting) may or may not affect your lifting goals.

If lifts are going up you should be getting muscular gain.
Still not ideal to lift while fasted, cardio while fasting is A+ but lifting while fasted isn't that smart.
If you're fasting either way might as well lift though.

Cant stop thinking about thicc women. Its what drives me. I want thick thighs, big natural tits, cute face, plump belly, soft skin and long flowing hair.

>>42555943
Don't pay attention to carbs pay attention to net carbs, mfp doesn't know the difference.
Subtract your fiber from the amount of carbs, if that number is below your carb goal then you are good.
Fiber isn't digested and provides no calories, but mfp counts it under the carbs.
The carbs in vegetables are just more complex and are accompanied by fiber (keeps you full and good for shits) and lots of vitamins and minerals.

If this becomes an issue cronometer is p good and actually shows net carbs (carbs-fiber) as opposed to total carbs.

>>42556244
>No calories m8, water doesn't affect you so why would coffee do it?

Well, there is a small amount of calories, I usually drink about 20oz. Also, I've heard that large amounts of caffeine can disrupt IF.

I've been stuck at 158 lbs for maybe a week or so, I fear I might have plateaued here, despite being like 500 kcal below my TDEE daily. I've heard that sometimes having a couple days eating at maintenance can kick start weight loss again, is that a meme or should I give it a shot?

>>42556334
It's not a meme, give it a shot.

I tried listening to you guy's advice but it isn't helping
doubling down is just exacerbating the problem
I'm going to try to take it easy and relax my diet a little, just to see if anything changes

losing a week or two is better than spending months in weight loss purgatory
and I'm in no rush to see results, I just want consistent progress no matter how small

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>>42555285
I'm all for fasting, but this. It still won't save you from a shitty diet

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@apple
Aphex
221.1lbs

Good to see reducing my deficit by 100kcal has resulted in me losing less weight.

>42554449
>42551903
Had some celebrations over the calorie limit. But to reiterate, fuck drinking on keto, it blows you away so quickly

>>42556326
There's a few nucleic acids and a very small amount of oils, if diet soda doesn't take you out of a fasting state the calories in coffee won't.
Never heard that about caffeine and I've done IF for quite a while, caffeine is a god send for appetite.

I'm assuming you know what fasting feels like so as long as you don't exit that fasting high you should be fine, would be surprised if caffeine could trigger any insulin response so have no idea why it could affect fasting.

>>42556334
It's a meme that works for some people, like keto.
Worst thing that happens is you don't budge the scale for 2 or 3 days, go for it.

>>42556414
Me fucking up the post reference should be indicative of that

>>42554449
>>42551903

@ Apple
Name Fat O'Neill
Weight 251.8

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>>42556409
I haven't been in these threads as often as I used too, does Apple still log weigh ins? I don't remember seeing him around last friday. I hope he's okay.

>>42556440
He said recently he is very busy irl

Join the /fat/ discord you dumb niggers https://discord.gg/VkBqy5p

>>42556440
If he can't get to it now, I want to make sure it's in the archives anyway

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Never drink anything harder than kvas on keto niggers, for your own safety, sorry for reiterating the point
Firefox autocorrect is my saviour
I can barely handle captcha now

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IT'S MY REFEED DAY, /FAT/

HAD SOME OATZ FOR BREAKFAST
HAD SOME DAN DAN NOODLEZ FOR LUNCH
HAD SOME TATER TOZ FOR DINNER
HAD SOME PROTEIN SHAKEZ
DRINKIN A BEER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS

FEELS GOOD

>tfw back to cutting tomorrow

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>>42554449
I ate two large burgers today

>>42556510
the hell is a re-feed?
you been fasting?

I'm really not up to date on this terminology
someone make me a glossary

>>42556577

https:// www.bodybuilding . com/fun/sclark60.htm

>>42554449
Nothing to confess father
880 calories today, pretty good

>>42556268
Thank you very much anon that just had me really confused I know there's a sticky but just something's not completely understandable. And I figured I was doing good anyways meeting my goal of 2 pounds a week just wanted to be sure on that part.

>>42556844
It's alright, net carbs is one of the more confusing dietary things because you would assume they already subtracted fiber out.
I have (hopefully) only one more month of weightloss if I continue losing 2 pounds a week, I'm pretty excited to eat 300 calories above maintenance (which is practically double what I'm eating now).

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I've been lifting for 9+ years lads. I'm tired of it. Every time i'm about to make it I get injured. I stepped in a gopher hole and fucked up my meniscus and needed surgery, then developed arthritis. no more squats ever again.

came back and got stronger, then worked on a project and got a grade 2 sprain on my bicep distal tendon.

now I was so close to making it and people were completing me saying i looked like a new man and had a meat shield back.then when doing dumbbell presses. I sprain a rotator cuff. this is something I've been doing for years and my shoulder decides to give. out for 2+ months.

still doing cardio but I'm eating passed my tdee,i consumed 2500 calories today. I'm tired of getting gainz cucked by the supernatural. evrey time i'm about to make it, BOOM! injury,most of the time it's non gym related.

this time i feel like not wanting to even go back, the fire has died for me. I go to the gym and feel even more depressed post workout. No more high just extreme dread and i want to scream in my car. I think this time i might just give up. i don't know what to do lads, shit's bumming me out. I'm 27 years old now, a grown ass man but i've grown tired of this shit.

>>42557074
I'm glad I'm not you. :)

>>42557051
I have a long ways to go started at 312 and this has been my first month.
I'm going for a 1900 allowance a day allows me to lose 2 - 2 and a half pounds a week.

And good job man can't wait till I get there goal is 155.

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265lbs to 182lbs

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>>42557129
I only started at 230, goal is 175.
Shit took two years though as once I get close to it the first time I relapsed HARD, only reason I wasn't obese was I used to go through seasonal depression where I wouldn't eat for months so it would all even out at 230-240 with absolutely no muscle since it would atrophy when starving.

Now I'm at 183 at 6'6" and absolutely no muscle, will start lifting tomorrow as I finally roped someone in going with me.
I know 175 is a bit light for someone my size but I don't want to be afraid of bulking for a while so might as well lose the extra bellyfat when I have no muscle to lose.

>tfw I'm a giant spoopy skeleton with bellyfat

>>42557138
Way to go. How long did it take you to lose that weight. What was the most difficult part of your weight loss?

number of replies to this thread = your weight

post wisely

>>42555937
Just do some research online, there's lots of info out there saying that lifting in a fasted state is more beneficial

>>42557138

Holy shit dude good for you

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>>42554449
Overeat for the first time in 5 months. Went over maintenance by 1600 cals. Trying to figure out why I chose to fail today after so long.

>>42557138
not gonna show your saggy mantits?

>>42557176
I'm actually the same way with the depression but instead of not eating I ended up eating more shit sucks man.
But thankfully my mental state is starting to level out a bit and this diet has been also helping me feel better about myself.

And I've already got a bit of muscle used to be a fat gym rat but need to put on more so I've got a home gym set so working on that at the same time it can be hard working 12 hour shifts but goals man they make my life right now.

>6'6"
At least you aren't manlet mode anon.
I'm sitting right at 6' so I've got that going for me too I suppose. Lol

>>42557074
You could be cursed m8

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>>42557281
you think so? Because evrey time I'm about to make it something happens to my body. Right now I'm looking good,all kinds of gains but they will be lost due to rest. is there a way to stop this? i rerack my weights and shit,wtf?

>>42554143
It's all in your mind, I've been eating around 1000 for years, lost over 100kg

>>42556523
So?

2 jr whoppers with cheese 800 calories, a gatorade 250 calories. Bacon egg pie and yogurt cup 750 calories. 1800 or so altogether

Still a couple hundred more and I dont need em. Calories are so fucking easy to count. Count em you faggot.

>>42555362
This is a shitty idea because you aren't teaching yourself how to control yourself and you aren't fucking fasting properly. Diet soda still causes insulin spikes and will ruin the point of fasting.
>>42555709
Get a b12 supplement and drink black coffee.
>>42555826
How did it turn out? That's sounds horrifying.
>>42555838
Drink gin and tonics or fernet shots with a sparkling water like topo Chico or something.
>>42555865
Go down a size and buy shirts made of a tighter fabric. Make sure to put them in the dryer for longer than you normally do.
>>42555894
Everyone breaks down sometimes. The important part is to get back on track and not fall deeper into the vice.
>>42555900
Lifting was fine when at the 22nd hour of fasting and then I'd eat right after. It was just really hard when the body was still working with glycogen and didn't switch over yet so there wasn't any rush of adrenaline.
>>42556255
Do you really want to be with a gains goblin girl once you get fit?
>>42556369
What ever makes you sleep at night. >>42557074
You lift too heavy and don't care about form it sounds like. Go swim or do something active that isn't lifting. Do something fun anon.
>>42557176
>tfw 6'3 200lb skinny fat
It pisses me off that I've been lifting for strength on n' off for a year or two while only looking like a T. rex, I added some volume arm training at my pitiful weight and my arms are already showing progress while the rest of my body is ugly and "strong".

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>>42546468
320 today, ^1lb from yesterday, v5lbs from start.

3.8mi today, 45.3mi total.

>>42546759
It feels like one

>>42547683
Partially, it does help. Also because I am interested in feedback.

@Apple

Pet here

193.78lb

Summer was fun, didn't pay attention to my food that much, accidentally broke my MFP streak. Gained 5 pounds back. Time to get back on track. I've just been eating a lot more junk food and snacking more recently.

Going to fully cutout most fast food items and going to stop getting dessert items. I can lose that five pounds in like a week. I'm only a bit upset by the MFP loss.

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>>42557198

Took me 3 years on and off, could have been lesser than a year if I took it seriously.

>>42557244

Thanks mang

>>42557269

I have a lot of bellyfat than mantits

>>42555888
I meant I'm going to cut back 600 cals that day too.

rate my breakfest lads
>2 tomatos cut in pieces with garlic salt
>3 toast with yellow cheese
>2 glasses of tap water with a magnesium capsule

>>42557448
Looking good man keep up the good work

>>42557511
Yellow cheese isn't a type of cheese dude.

10/10 for fantasy breakfast. Can't wait for the magic powers to kick in.

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>>42557541
yeah im feeling it already i should haven eaten only 2 toasts

>>42557512

Thanks anon, we're all gonna make it

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>trying to get back into fitness
>find old weighted vest I had forgotten about
>About to go try it out for a walk
>Realize i'll be shot for looking like a jihad
>mfw

>>42557553
Dude, isn't toast a little bland? I'd go for some nice meat instead.

>>42557553
You should have eaten 0 (zero) toasts and had meat and veggetables instead.

>>42553799
OP, next time link the new /fat/ thread in the old one next time

>>42557637
Wear jacket over it for rugged conditioned walking.

It's weird.
>finally last through a full work-out on my machine
>took over a hour and have to drag myself out of it
>two days later
>get on machine again and feel like I'm not doing anything and I grow frustrated
>20 minutes later
>it registers that I've gone farther than I did in a hour
>even though it's on max resistance my legs I no longer feel strained like they did a week or so back
>when I get off it is when I feel exhausted and can barely move my legs so I know I did something
I'm not sure whether or not to call this progress. On one hand, the machine claims I burned more. On the other, isn't it true that you have to always increase the workout load or you'll eventually plateau or burn less?

CHEAT DAY MOTHERFUCKERS! TIME TO GET MY EAT ON

so I've been eating 1 pizza (760 calories) and a can of Corn/or green beans (about 60-80 calories)

I'm doing interment fasting. Alongside some running. I'm still a big guy, so running helps me lose weight, probably way easier then if I was a tad bit skinner and could do some of the other workouts. So I'm hoping to burn least 30-100 calories running. I've already lost 2 pound in water weight, it's I'm only on day 3. Although I haven't lost any actual pure fat yet, the fact that I've lost some water shows me I'm obviously on the right path. I'm eating under a thousand calories each day and excerising. Wish me luck /Fat/Bros

Btw my Height is 5'10 and weight is currently about 215

>>42557976

The moment you stop eating your burning energy and fat. Think of weight loss like a hour glass. Every second burns fuel, instead of losing a chunk a week.

>>42558000
I like that outlook lad. I won't lie this isn't my first tangle with weightloss but other times I was thinking about the short-term and not the long term. Now I have a proper schedule in place lol.

I weighed at 154 lbs this morning, /fat/. That means I dropped 12 lbs in the 5 weeks I've been dieting and working out.
Good or bad progress?

>>42554449
After around 2 weeks of no fast food I ate 2 midnight sweets from an all night bakery.
1000 calories of sugar alone.
Gained a pound that night and felt like shit.

I'm down another 2 pounds in atonement.

>>42557491
My apologies. Good thinking m8

just had two slices of cheese cake. so far this week I've gained only 2 kilos

>>42557976
Good luck anon, glad you're on the right path. Of course I would suggest eating healthier things than pizza, even if it is low calorie. However, you are just starting out and I know I would have a lot of criticism for my first month of dieting/cutting so do what works best for you now and that's good enough. Also good call on the veggies. I would suggest greens like broccoli, beans or even peas over stuff like corn. Frozen veggies work great for me but once again just do what works best for you.

I'm 5'11 and dropped from 240 to 175 in about 4 months so if you keep eating on a solid deficit with IF you could definitely get down a good 50lbs in a few months considering you lose a lot faster when you first start PLUS when doing IF. I wish I would have done IF from the beginning.

Also, one other thing I will share is that I allowed myself a bit of a cheat one day and ate a whole frozen pizza (1,360 calories) I still ate at a caloric deficit though but I noticed I plateaued more than usual the next few days. I find the fewer carbs I eat I seem to lose more weight. But to be fair that could just be my imagination.

>>42558382
Gaining with is probably the opposite of what you want, bud.

>>42558382
Too bad this isn't /bulk/ general

@apple
Still 197

Anyone here count calories over the course of a few days or a whole week rather than each day? I've been considering giving it a try as counting daily has worked fine for several months now but I feel like trying something different might help keep me motivated.

I'm just worried that eating extra calories some days might still have a negative effect even though I'll still meet the overall limit. I was also thinking of counting over the course of 3 days at a time.

>>42558407
Carbs retain more water and refuel glycogen stores furthering water retention still, if you go on keto you lose an incredible amount of water weight at first since carbs are such a big factor.
Water retention isn't a big deal unless you are autistic about the number on the scale of course.

>>42558729
Good to know. I was aware sodium affects water retention but didn't know carbs were that big of a factor. While we're on the subject though, what would you consider a good carb limit? I'm on IF but definitely no intention of doing keto, at least at the moment.

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Ex-fatty here. Im hovering at 15%, constantly. How do I proceed from here? Even when I push myself to go lower the only way to stay there is to constantly suffer from hunger and tasteless food.

No calories=no more building muscles if you are natty. Whenever I wanna go back to eating and building muscles I immediately gain back those %.

>I just wanna build muscle and have somewhat well defined abs 24/7

>>42557637
There's a simple fix for that.
Be white.

>>42558668
That's fine. Use MFP's weekly average. I used to go out and binge with friends and then simply fast the next day and bam, sorted. Not that great if you're a diabetes risk but in moderation it's fine.

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Is sugar addictive? I'm almost sure it is. Or do i just have pathetically low willpower?

t. somebody who just ate 8 pieces of white bread soaked in store bought milkshake
Why can't i stop

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>>42559056
>Is sugar addictive?
Yes. Dopamenergic.

>just ate 8 pieces of white bread soaked in store bought milkshake
Fucking stop it, you're killing yourself

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CHEAT WEEKEND MUHFUGGAS
What are youse having?

>>42559056
>>42559056
Sugar is amazing. Ive eaten rows of fig newtons and entire boxes of eclairs. Ive gone out to get ice cream at 3 AM many, many times. I love buying those 1 dollar boxes of glazed donuts at the grocery store and eating ALL 12 of them within a 6 hour period until they make me sick. Eating those 30 oz tubs of yogurt with fruit mixed in, eating cookies as a meal, melting down a gallon of ice cream so I could drink it. I usually dipped bread in maple syrup and Hershey syrup, microwaved it, great! I love those giant 7 dollar brownies dominos delivered warm and chewy, ate the whole thing many times with a whole pizza (or two). Chugging gallons of orange juice 2-3 times a week is also a great way to stuff your face, so good!


I had to lessen my intake of sugar to say the least and have lost a lot of weight since. Now I only have tiny yogurt cups, some fruit, and occasionally some lightly sugared drink in a small reasonable serving size. Count calories, it's a game well worth playing. The numbers on a donut will make you put it down, simply because you wont be able to eat anything else for the day.

>>42558116
Good shit bro, thats like 2.4 a week. Keep it up.

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Fatty (to me) here. Day 8 of my two week fast. Losing pretty good weight. 5 lbs from being underweight. I honestly can't wait. From being a little overweight my whole life (by 10-15lbs), it's really nice to have temples and skinny cheeks again. I still hate my fat tits and stomach/love handels. Hopefully they will be gone soon. Honestly it's kinda fun fasting. I don't get hungry that much, and when I do I just smoke cigarettes. We are all going to make it! :)

Does anyone else go to a separate restaurant for /secondlunch/? I always get weird looks whenever I do it at the same place

>>42558116
>>42559153
>>42557428
>>42555838
>implying these are fat
if you can go outside without being screamed at then you are NOT fat

>>42553799
It never ends, does it? I went from 95kg to 72kg at 180cm and I'm still fucking chubby. I know I'll need to lose another 10kg and I dread it.

>>42559185
You need to gain another 10, the hard way.

>>42559231
Gain?!

>>42559122
I have self-control and willpower.

Can someone give me some advice on how to go about fasting in a smart way?

>>42559442
Don't

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>>42558750
Most people here are trying to lose weight, not gain. It's probably better to ask in new thread, or QTDDTOT.

My limited understanding is that nobody can stay at very low bf% for very long periods.

I also understand, I think, that bulking and cutting is cyclical. You build muscle and fat, cut fat, build muscle and fat, repeat. You get more and more muscle over time. Isn't that the point?

>>42559172
This thread is for fatties losing weight. I'm less fat than I was, but I still can't see my dick because of my stomach.

>>42559122
I had a cheat meal, but for me cheating is about cheating macros. I was still in my calorie goal for the day.

Down 10lbs. Currently 240, was 250 5 weeks ago.

We are gonna make it bros

>>42559453
Any other advice for an ignorant but well-meaning anon then?

>>42559485
Different poster here, but if you're a dude don't go lower than 1200cal a day.

Learn to prepare and eat healthy food. Fasting is shit at least partially because it doesn't prepare you for changing how you eat every day forever. Losing weight is only half the battle, keeping it off is even harder because it's forever.

Work out , especially lifting weights.

>>42557553
Too much carb. Try switching the toast for eggs.

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>tfw starting uni next month

hoping to be a bit lighter, but I know I have to buy clothes and Im worried about it, I've never been much of a clothes shopper but knowing that I will be going out with people at uni has made me think harder about what type of clothes I should get, anyone got any good suggestions in the UK for jeans for slimming fatties? I need some jeans because I normally just wear shorts but cant be doing that on nights out.

>>42559131
>>42559172
t-thanks

>>42559442
Intermittent fasting with no exercise, tested on myself, use caution, consult family/doctor.

You can eat one meal (1300-2200cal, balanced nutrients) in 48 hours, that will give you 650-1100cal a day, the weight loss will be pretty rapid (1-3kg a week), don't do this for more than 2 weeks.

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>>42553799
/fat/ pretty new to weight lifting, and I'm not sure what I should do or how I should do it. You guys got any recommendations or tips?

>>42559643
>tfw deliberately wearing very loose and opaque coloured formal clothes to uni till I'm at my goal weight

>>42559731
See, T-shirts and shirt wise im fine I dont mind wearing whatever on my top because I can normally look fine, but bottoms are always a tough one because I feel like I either look like my two sausage legs are shoved into the jeans or I wear baggy jeans and look awful. Thats why I wear short most of the time.

>>42559713
Read the sticky, read Starting Strength (the book).

>>42554449
Otherwise, I did great all week. But, god damn this Friday I went to town.

>hungover from low calorie drinking yesterday
>eat a big ass bowl of cereal at like 4 AM
>go back to bed, get up for work
>make like, 4 eggs w/cheese, 6 strips of bacon, and buttered toast
>then went to KFC for the 5 buck fill up on lunch
>then drank a six pack on top of that the evening

2800~ calories IIRC.

>>42559774
followup, didn't even lift that day.

>>42559774
>low calorie drinking
tell me more

A 24 hour gym just opened about 10 minutes from my house. Drove by it tonight to check it out and it was empty with literally 0 people. Is this too good to be true

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Why not jus settle for some degenerate fat fetishist?

>>42560078
I would, but I want to be fit myself, I dont care if I get a chubby QT

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>>42559463
>I also understand, I think, that bulking and cutting is cyclical. You build muscle and fat, cut fat, build muscle and fat, repeat. You get more and more muscle over time. Isn't that the point?

At this point my abs are somewhat visible but not noticeable for less than 3 weeks per year.

I think I need to be smarter about all that. Maybe I should try and finally go below 10%, a completely foreign territory for me as I've never been that low in my life. Also it seems almost impossible to attain.

I dont know how do I into lean gains, provided its actually real and within my reach genetically speaking.

>stuck at 250-254 for the last week
reeeeeeee

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>>42560076
>Is this too good to be true
Yea, until it goes out of business due to lack of customers...

>>42559122
So far: Haggis w/ piles of mashed potato and celeriac (mashed with a huge chunk of butter each), buttered carrots, kale and tenderstem broccoli soaked in gravy, a za'atar bun (more to follow), a square of apple and maple cake iced with maple syrup icing and nuts, a mouthful of *dense* rocky road (more to come) and two scoops of salted caramel oppo ice cream. Yet to come: victoria sponge cake, peanut butter blondies, lime drizzle cake, pecan cookies, shortbread, scones with jam and cream, hot chocolate w/toppings, meringue w/ whipped cream, Viennese whirl and finally whatever I also have for dinner.
This is >>42557870 anon from earlier. I went under my 700kcal deficit from yesterday and I'm going to fast tomorrow. Life is fucking good right now. I love cheat day.

>>42560284
How can you even eat this much.
I ate a pizza two days ago and couldn't eat more.

>>42560284
out of curiosity, do you think cheat days make you crave bad foods more? I don't do cheat days and I pretty much lost the desire to eat that kind of stuff.

>>42560305
No idea to be honest. I do eat fucktons of veg on the regular to stay full every day and keep at a good caloric deficit. I did go a bit hungry last night in prep. I could easily eat two large takeaway pizzas before I sorted my diet out.

>>42560326
Do you think your stomach has shrunk at all?
I can only eat about half as much in a binge than I could before.

>>42560314
Personally for me I treat them as a reward for sticking to my diet, only having them if I stuck to it. I'm pretty content day to day with chicken and rice with lots of veg, I really love vegetables but it's nice to pig out once a month. Also I try and make my cheat days with other people, not just slobbing on my own. I'm with the family today so it's a nice occasion.

>>42554279
reduced carbs leads to reduced water weight i.e. you pissed it out

>>42560350
A bit yeah, I could definitely pack away more food before I cleaned my act up. I had a carvery cheat day with friends and piled my plate as high as I used to and had a sizeable leftover pile at the end of it. Eating more filling and less calorie dense stuff probably helps.

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>>42560107
anybody got some ideas?

>>42560381
You probably have experienced it less than me because you've properly altered your diet to be more fulling.
I've just gone cold turkey for the most part and have still been eat calories dense stuff so I imagine that makes the stomach shrink more due to it rarely being full.

>>42560400
That's probably a better method. I just love the feeling of being full and stuffing my face with cabbage seemed like a good alternative. Certainly means I fit more into my cheat days than I probably should.

>>42560441
>That's probably a better method
No it really isn't, it means I'm way hungrier than I should be because my stomach is empty.
Mind you I don't do any cheat days ever so maybe that makes the difference.

Celebrated my progress with an ice cream cone 260 kcal. I hate myself

>>42560479
As long as you go under TDEE, it doesnt matter.

>>42560479
relax anon, you're allowed to have fun. 260 is perfectly manageable. if it really makes you feel bad cut 100 out for the next couple of days

hey /fat/, absolutely shredded monster fitizen here, I hate your fucking guts but I want to see you guys succeed.
Drink more fucking water. I've tried this shit and I'm looking insanely more jacked, plus I don't even feel like eating anything (fuck me I'm supposed to be bulking). I used to hate drinking water but now I chug that shit. Remeber, you won't like it at first, but you have to keep at it. Godspeed, anons,

I entered the normie weight for the bmi scale. I still need to lose 20lbs I guess, but thanks to you, I lost 90 lbs.

>>42560539
>>42560550
It's my mom's fault, I buy the cones for her and she has like 6 at a time. And the bitch doesn't even gain weight and stays fit. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42560616
Eat ice cream at breakfast and try to get it into your calorie limit. I ate a normal cone and a minicone in a day and still got them macros and still under 1500kcal

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>>42560604
Hating water, is this a burger thing or something? How can anyone hate plain water. Never heard this nonsense from anyone but freedomclaps.

>>42560654
Maybe people with shitty tap water.
Bottled natural spring water master race.

>>42560455
I guess. It does mean you could switch to filling up completely on low cal high volume veg now and not need to eat as much.

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bingeing today,going all out lads. fuck it

>>42560654
yes, I am a burger.
I didn't HATE water, per se. I just never drank any. When I first tried drinking water in large quantities, I was like, "fuck it"

>>42554527
>>42555262
Looking good! What's your general strategy?

>>42555362
>just getting a bunch of gum and diet beverages to tide me over
Enjoy your gastritis

>>42560682
>When I first tried drinking water
>First tried
>Drinking fucking water
christ what the fuck didn't your parents just have water at home how do you go about avoiding drinking fucking water

How to deal with anger on a caloric deficit? I just started a week ago and I'm a rage-filled dick about nothing now.

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>>42560739
You could try meditation
Drinking water would probably help

>>42560355
Finally.

Thank you.

>>42560027
Vodka and 0cal sprite

>>42554111
Making a web app on openshift for the contest

stay tuned

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>>42553799
208 to 175
From April to today

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>>42561049
how tall?

>tfw 5'6 and 179 but look absolutely huge cause im a manlet

>>42561049
You werent that fat at 208.

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Is this losing too much in one week or is it okay? I'm being 100% serious I haven't had any exercise except for playing HORSE for a days and I walked a half a mile the day before. I've just been eating around 1.5-2K calories not even worrying about specifics. Is this normal at all? My BMR is around 3K

>>42561090
Also I'm 5'9" so yes I'm very fat/obese

>>42561090
If you're a hamplanet, yes

>>42561063
5'9", I still carried a decent amount of muscle which made up a lot of the weight
>>42561071
I was flexing and sucking it in. I've gone down like 5 or 6 belt notches.

>>42561105
Okay, Thank you.

>>42557357
Coffee doesn't give me a good caffeine rush like energy drinks. I like black coffee for its appetite suppressive properties.

>>42560675
Have a good day anon, just remember that today is the exception, not the rule.

>>42553799
>wake up
>mow lawn (riding mower)
>buy two beefy potato-rito for breakfast
>watch TV
>start drinking bourbon
>eat 4 slices of pizza (smaller slices though, like 3 normal size from a large)
>drank about 6 diet pepsi's, 10 shots of Old Crow

Now I'm feeling hungry again. I don't have much in the way of food in my house though. Might make a quick run to a fast food place before I go to bed

>>42561205
Good for you anon, living the life. NEVER gonna make it but still I'm jelly

Going to vegas soon, best places to eat without becoming a fat fuck?

>>42560027
>eat one small meal
>drink heavy

It was like 1800 calorie day.

How long does it take for loose skin to tighten up and stretch marks to go away?

I lost 160 pounds in 9 months and now despite being well within a healthy bmi I still have more of a gut than my friends who weigh 50 pounds more than I do now. And it's all skin/empty fat cells, I could probably grab a handful and tie it in a knot if I tried.

>>42561283
surgery

>>42561302
In the words of a certain scrivener, I would prefer not to

>>42561283
What was your height and weight before losing 160 lbs? How long were you this fat? From what I have heard these are factors that will determine if the excess skin gets tighter.

>>42561323
6'3, 360

Idk I've always been chubby but it was only that bad for a year or two I guess?

>>42559643
ASOS my dude. Lots of nice stuff there as well as a plus size category and there's usually a sale on.

>>42561283
The younger you are, the more chances you have to resolve itself. Starts to get worse when you are over 25 I've heard.

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>>42560682
>When I first tried drinking water
Such a drastic change must have been hard for you anon

>>42561433
Well, my 24th birthday was a few weeks ago. Guess I did it just in time. I've got a check up coming up, maybe I'll ask my doctor if she has any relevant advice/knowledge

I think I want to give up on the keto meme. I think the most useful part about keto is you tend to stay away from fast foods because these rarely meet your carb limit per day, but I don't think it's smart to not eat any fruits.

I've lost over 70 lbs but I think I could have done this with any diet and exercise, I just read that keto would do it faster.

>>42561373
Thanks buddy, sadly im 5'6 so most of these clothes will look terrible on me, thats why I find it so hard to find bottoms, most people are either fat or short but when you're both you're destined to be wearing baggy jeans that look like they're too big (because they are)

Guess ill just have to keep getting fitter!

Just ate 300g of sesame tahini. That's like 150g of fat :((, I'm supposed to be cutting. Now I have to work out more. I'm not even that fat.

>>42561489
Dietary fat is fine bro. Just don't eat more calories than you burn and you're fine.

>>42553799
>265, morbidly obese manlet
>205, almost below 200 for the first time in awhile
>begin to let diet slip, workouts because once a week, instead of 4x....making excuse
>back to 225
>fuck

Trying to get back on the train

>lose a lot of weight
>experience my adams apple for the first time in my life

Fuck this thing is weird, I miss when I could do a triple chin.

>>42561550
you got quite a neck fupa.

>>42561466
>I just read that keto would do it faster
It doesn't work like that, there is no study to support it. Keto is on par with other diets.
>I think the most useful part about keto is you tend to stay away from fast foods because these rarely meet your carb limit per day
What about suppressed appetite and the nature of the foods you eat being extremely satiating? Keto is so good for controlling hunger.
And you can still eat fast food, just be smart about it. Bunless burgers, chicken wings, subway salads, so on.
>but I don't think it's smart to not eat any fruit
Then eat fruit. Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, avocados are keto-friendly, within limits of course. Plenty of vegetables too.

>>42561615
Nah, keto works. I lost 100 pounds in 5 months, ate pretty much whatever I wanted and didn't exercise once, besides walking to class and stuff. The other anons problem is he had a daily carb limit that was greater than zero. If you're gonna do keto, you can't try to cheat it.

>>42561662
I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm on keto myself and have great results.
>The other anons problem is he had a daily carb limit that was greater than zero.
It doesn't have to be. You can safely consume 20 g of carbs every day, I can handle 50 g without being kicked out of ketosis, some people can eat even more than that.

>>42561709
>>42561662
*doesn't have to be zero
And it's 40, not 50, I mistyped

>>42561550

lol I know this feel.

Things bobs around in my neck, I played with it for like an hour in the mirror when I first lost enough weight to notice it

I hit my goal weight of 140 from 190

:3

>5'5.5
>150 pounds
>skinny everywhere except my stomach
>have really wide girlish hips
>want to go down to 135 to lose the muffin top but gain muscle at the same time
>joined biggest loser at work so I need to lose as much as I can by November 10th

I know how to starve myself and lose weight fast because I used to be obese, but I want to get to a point where I can bench a plate, really tired of still not being able to do that.

what do I do?

>>42561749
Well done mein negger
Got any progress pics? I wanna give out my mires

dehydrated fruits are bad if i want to lose weight right?

>>42562048
Yeah, tons of sugar

>heat up a bowl of whole wheat orzo with veggies and egg whites post-cardio
>have a couple of fruits
>already a mere 600cal below target

>decide to make chicken breast corn and rice for dinner
>no rice
>that means no corn

Yum 2 chicken breasts and a flat bread then I guess

>>42562170
why can't you eat rice and corn
flat bread is just carbs like rice retard

>>42562243
there is no rice, thus making the corn pointless as I wanted it with my rice, Im just having some flat bread and chicken now. Going to consider it a cheat meal.

>>42561767
lift you dork

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The bathroom scale's much weaker and smaller brother the kitchen scale is the true key to weight loss


he can show people their weight, but not prevent it

Holy shit IF isn't actually a meme

>>42562418
>not the kitchen scale

NEVER EVER going to make it

I actually weighed myself today for the first time in forever and was 5kg higher than I thought, whew.

>>42562449
i worded it badly, the bathroom weight can show people their weight, but not help prevent it

i fucked up my own shitpost

>>42562499
wait no, I misread, I thought you wrote bathroom then bedroom

Im actually retarded and slighty pissed so sorry.

>180 cal worth of oil just to fry a few onions and some garlic

is there literally any way to fry stuff and reduce some the calories? after i started counting everything, and even when now when skimping heavy on the oil, it eats up a fuck ton of calories

how do you fry simple shit without destroying your pots and pans and burning your food?

i used to pour until the bottom of said sauce pan was covered in oil, and then fried. it didnt seem like an absurd amount for regular cooking, but it sure as shit doesnt now

no wonder im fat

>>42562527
You don't fry it.

>>42562527

A good nonstick pan nigga.

Shit, I overestimated my height and now I'm borderline overweight based on BMI. And I thought I was relatively stable.

>>42554449
Fuckin southern host man.

Killed 1/2 a bottle and ate a pbj.

Woke up 2 pounds heavier.

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>>42554449
Sorry Father for I have sinned. I drank 2 beers and one energy drink (not a huge monster, a small can no name drink).

Please forgive me.

>>42562787
That's nothing too bad, son.

>>42554449
So far today I have had ihop cupcake pancakes, three donuts, two jalapeno cheese kolaces, a pound of gyro meat, 5 of the breads, a large fries, a pint of ice cream and a loaf of garlic bread. It is 2:04pm where I am.

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>>42562936
Eat also some potato chipsu.

lads, when will I look good at 5'6? Im currently 179 down from 212 and hoping I can start being a little more confident when I get to 170. My current goal is 150 then if I dont like the way I look 140. I know its a long way to go but I really want to start seeing some progress, especially on my legs they still look so big and fat. I know im the one who did this to myself and im the one who will get myself out but progress is only showing on my face and slightly on my stomach its not helping much.

>>42562974
>when will I look good at 5'6
Never

>>42563027
beat me to it

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>>42563027
>>42563039

FUCK
I really set myself up for that one.

WHEN WILL I LOOK LIKE A SMALL ADULT THATS REASONABLY HEALTHY

>>42563044
>WHEN WILL I LOOK LIKE A SMALL ADULT THATS REASONABLY HEALTHY
Good, good, always important to have expectations in check

>>42562974
At 135

Cheat day is at a close lads, it was good while it lasted. Back to chicken and rice until next Saturday.

>>42554279
yep. lost 10lbs in 2 weeks on keto

When can I start light running? 6'0 @ 219.6lbs, was 247lbs.

>>42560398
No. This thread is about losing weight, not gaining it. You've graduated, dude. We've taught you all we can. The rest of the board can help with bulking.

>>42563369

chicken and rice is amazing though. have you tried adding hot sauce and spices?

>>42563515
Oh I love chicken and rice. I bought a chicken to do jerk chicken tomorrow. Just that I spent today stuffing my face with home baked goodies today. I love vegetables too.

>>42558740
Depends on your goals but honestly after getting your protein in just make sure you get your essential omega fatty acids, after that eat whatever fats and carbs you want, hopefully not getting many sat fats though.

>>42563496
Probably now - just don't do it every day and stick to 10km at a time max until you're 200.

Is it best for an overweight DYEL to build strength and then cut or the other way around?

>>42563779
Build strength while cutting.

>have many scars on my head from various surgeries
>big reason why I'm overweight, because I have so many surgeries and eat a lot during recovery and lots of the surgeries restrict my mobility for upwards of a year

>some of these scars go through my hairline
>getting into my 20s
>now I can't tell if some of these spots are scars or if I'm balding

please tell me it ain't so, bros. I can't be fucking balding. It would reveal ALL of my scars.

>>42563887
if you'd get fit and grow some beard, you could look badass with all those scars.

>>42563922
I've been working on getting fit. Took a break over the summer. I was 250 at the beginning of the year, now I'm 215. I'll probably start bulking at the beginning of next year.

>>42563948
Keep it up. Own these scars as they're part of you.

>>42553799
where's that comparison pic with Arnold and chris chan
I need it for something

>ate like a pig today
>didn't purge
>feel awful
>grabbed my tit in bed
>"wtf I'm still skinny?!"
I think the shock made me realise how fucking fucked in the head I am about food

>>42564519
>didn't purge
>made me realize how fucked in the head I am about food

Well at least something did.

>>42554449
I ate today over 3400 kcal of food(big fucking pizza with chicken) while being on cut, im normally eating something like 1800 kcal a day

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>4 hours until next meal
>already maxed out daily calorie limit

>planned a long time ago to have a cheat meal today
>dont actually want anything now that the day has arrived

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>>42564790
looks like you don't get to eat then, you disgusting abomination

>>42554449
I didnt do groceries so I had some of my moms cooking. It was fucking fried chicken. Some please save me.

>>42564841
Getting detoxification from eating junk it's a real thing, I went from eating fast food daily to basically never, I don't even remember last time I did.

Can someone explain the concept of a cheat meal to me? Does it mean you let yourself go over the calorie limit or that you just eat something unhealthy but still count the calories?

just had steamed asparagus and broccoli with pan fried mushroom and seabass fillet. little parmesan on top. would recommend for anyone wanting a sub 300 kcal meal.

>>42564898
I don't understand how you can have a cheat meal either. I only have cheat days where I go over my daily kcal allowance. Surely 1 cheat meal would have to stay within your daily otherwise it's a cheat day but then you could just have less food the rest of the day to make up for it? Cheat days for me thanks.

>>42564898
It's based on the fact that you haven't adapted to new habits of eating less and eating more healthy so you gorge yourself for a meal and eventually you can't eat anymore. It's a planned failure to stop yourself from completely falling off the train when you have been pavlov'd into always gorging yourself with terrible shitty foods.

>>42553799
at 1500 calories for 8 months ( 2700 tdee) havent lost weight in the last 2 months . (tdee still over 2300) what do i do? stats are
85kg
182cm

I started doing 3 days of keto / fasts at the weekends. Haven't done it enough to say how good it is, but the biggest impact it has had is that I'm not fucking allowed to eat all the shit cheat food I used to 'treat' myself to undeservedly.

>>42564964
You're not counting right because what you're saying is scientifically impossibile, you simply can't not lose weight in 2 months of a 800 calories deficiency

>>42564519
what is purging?


>inb4 newfag

gonna fast tomorrow
then monday gonna chug water and fig juice
then shave my head

I just want a clean break

>>42564964
doesn't add up. you should be losing a pound a week or so. figure out what you aren't counting.

>>42565030
google for bulimia

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Lost 20 lbs from 250 to 230 this month on IF and Keto

Feel like I look the same

Fuck

>>42555362
stop drinking soda altogether and start to drink water only, the faster you learn to live without sugar the better

>>42565026
>>42565052
KK , ill get 2 weeks just eating home made meals by counting every single calorie . maybe im misscounting

>>42565052
ahh thats what I thought it was.

thanks friend

What should I be doing for exercise if I have back issues? Just walking doesn't seem to be enough.

>>42562527
Fry 2 pieces of bacon or something else that creates a lot of grease and just factor in those calories, a lot more satisfying than just using oil.

>>42565060
You do look the same.

People rarely notice my 50lb weight loss from 240 to 190, because although my stomach has shrunk it hasn't done so significantly.

Don't let that stop you ,you are losing weight.

>>42565134
Talk to your doctor and a physical therapist (sports therapist?) to see what kind of lifting you can do. Consider swimming.

Walking IS good exercise, though, if you do it enough. How much are you walking? I do 8 to 10 miles a day every day. I'm sure it's helping.

>>42564964
Exact same for me. The only info I've heard is from this study
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-biggestloser-idUSKCN0Y12E9
Basically dieting can somehow reduce your TDEE. I can't find any other studies so I've no idea if it could apply outside of those extremes, but I'm assuming it applies to me since it makes the numbers add up.

I just cut a little harder and stricter and do a bit more exercise. Assuming that its true, I'm not sure if going lower is a good idea or it will just further fuck me over, so I'm just accepting the slower rate of loss for now. I've spent a decade at a bmi of 30 (33 at my worst), and I've finally gotten below that.

>>42563496
Ease into it and take plenty of rest days, don't get shin splints and don't push through knee pain.
There are far better cardio options for joints (rowing, cycling, swimming) but running is the easiest since all you need is shoes.

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>>42564790
doing something horribly wrong if you feel hungry and count calories. wrong kind of diet, quit all dairy and fatty foods. more rice, potatos and pasta

>>42562527
Ceramic pans let you 'fry' food in water. Its not actual frying but it can have the same effect depending on what you're trying to do, go see if its what you're looking for.

>>42564889
atone for your sins by cutting more calories out of your weekly total to balance it, and then don't skip groceries like a lazy bastard

>>42565065
you'll make it lad
just remember, if you're eating below your TDEE, and aren't losing weight, it means you are not eating below your TDEE

>>42564898
The original concept is that you can be lax on a meal every once in a while (say once or twice a month).
Have a favorite dessert/food?
Eat that but be still be careful, if you ate a little over your TDEE no worries if you do good the other days you don't have cheat meals.
Some fatties are willing to get rid of an entire week's effort like >>42564938, the other anon also is spouting nonsense.

Do whatever you want, there are different takes on how you do it.
I would recommend only doing it for holidays, if you continue to eat junk food you will continue to enjoy it, abstaining makes sugary shit taste like sugary shit, it makes greasy stuff taste really greasy, you get the gist.

A safe way to do it is eat 300 calories less than you normally would the days before and after, on the day where you cheat just have an extra meal that day being less than 1000 calories or so of something you really miss.
Don't do this too often though.

had a stomach cramp for like three hours lads. thought eating would help but seems to have made it worse. anyone got any good remedies? pls say I'm not gunna die

Jesus this diet is really something. Before I could down an entire pizza + 2 liters of soda no problem. Now I can barely handle a plate of broccoli and some pork chops. I literally couldn't even finish my last pork chop.
I know what you're thinking. I actually really enjoy healthy foods, and I usually add a good amount of seasoning to them to make them even better.
My metabolism is changing bros.

>>42565172
That's not a scientific journal so it's trash, seriously.
Count correctly and do cardio, if that fails talk to a doctor who actually specializes in nutrition.

>>42564790
Eat fat, protein, and fiber.
Eat foods that take a lot of volume, such as green vegetables.
Drink water for that volume too.
This guy >>42565189
is trolling, dairy and fatty foods are very filling and carb bombs are not (potatoes can still be filling though).

>>42565241
Symptoms?
I get them from constipation sometimes, just try some normie remedies like peppermint or go hard mode and take a suppository.

>>42565271
The stomach shrinks plus when you actually think about the food you are eating you realize what satiety feels like, a lot different than eating a pizza as fast as you can not thinking about when you should stop.
A diet with satiating foods is hard to go hungry on, green veggies and fatty meat will keep you full for hours.

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Am I supposed to count veggie calories too?

>>42565353
I'm >>42565271.
Yes, I often forget to eat and when I do the meals aren't that large. I'm actually struggling reaching that 1500 mark each day between not ever being hungry and all the water I'm drinking.

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>>42565353
i am not trolling, you give terrible advice here btw. going dead wrong direction, all of you.

you will fail with that kind of recommendations, 0% chance for long term cause you are advocating a completely unnatural diet. sorry.

>>42565384
you dont need count them. for example you could eat (white) rice only as much as you wish (...or feel hungry) and you will lose weight. no need to count calories or anything insane like that

>>42565353
I guess it could be constipation but I took a shit this morning. no rumbles or anything that would suggest trapped wind to me. I ate like 100g of cottage cheese (actually first time ive ever had it) earlier and it sat kinda funny in my stomach. cramp started a bit later. my best guess is it just doesn't mix well with me and I'll have to wait until it gets through my system. thanks.

>>42565447
cheese and dairy are horrible for stomach. probably over 90% of people get constipated from those. not human food

>>42565419
so what is the correct thing to do?

>>42565457
i told you already. quit all dairy, less meat, less or none cooking oils. more rice, pasta, potatos, noodles. etc zero fat plant pased startches. thats about it.

Apple
CrushCrush
232 lbs

Lost a total of 25 kgs in 3 months, will I make it guys?

>>42565353
>That's not a scientific journal so it's trash, seriously.

Its quoting from a scientific journal
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21538/full

Like I said, I wish there was more than one study to go by.

In my case, but I am absolutely consuming 1500 calories, my TDEE should be around 2100, and I lose maybe a 1/2lb a week. I have no way to measure my TDEE but that implies that its like 1700-1800ish. I don't like self diagnosis, but I also want to stop being fat this decade.

I did go to a nutritionist but she told me to eat green things and healthy proteins and never mentioned calories or weighing food. I guess I wanted a dietitian?

>>42565455
not sure I believe the dairy is terrible meme. I only have it occasionally and it's never caused me problems before.

>>42565569
>losing half an adult woman in weight and has to question whether hes making it

You're making it bud.

>>42565419
Appealing to nature is a terrible fallacy, something being natural doesn't mean it's better than anything unnatural, especially when you can't back up claims that I what told him to eat (fat, protein, and greens) is unnatural or unhealthy.

Rice isn't very filling and neither is pasta, pasta being the reason many people are obese already.
You're telling people to eat starches which are calorie dense, unfulfilling, and not very nutrient rich at all.

Terrible for weightloss, I don't care if you do this to maintain or gain but if someone needs to be satiated they shouldn't be looking at rice, they should be eating fat, protein, and fibers.
Now if you want to get all vegan on me that's fine but it doesn't change the fact that you should have plenty of healthy fats in your diet when cutting.

>>42565578
I didn't click on it since I don't trust articles usually, so didn't know it had a source.
Maybe your TDEE is just lower than you thought (remember it lowers when you lose weight).
IIRC dieticians are the ones with real education.

>>42565579
Only terrible for people who can't digest it, like wheat.
I'm lactose intolerant so I can't touch the stuff.

>>42565168
Man, I wish I had the time to walk that much. I try though, I don't own a car.

You're right, I should probably sack up and go back to my PT.

>>42565619
>Maybe your TDEE is just lower than you thought (remember it lowers when you lose weight).
I only lost 30lbs, so it only dropped by like 100 calories. I lost 20 while consuming about 2000 calories of beer and sugar, now I'm doing 1500 of greens and lean meat and exercising (somewhat) 5 days a week and not getting half the results. But progress is progress, and I have another 30lbs to go.

>>42565419
Different guy, but keto was literally prescribed to me by my endocrinologist to lose weight, and get fatty infiltration off my liver and pancreas, something many overweight people have too

>>42565722
The body is complicated m8, just keep going along and maybe try a carb refeed day or two and see if you react well to it, doesn't affect everyone but might you, especially with your remark about beer and sugar.

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>>42554060
>i managed to eat exactly 100g of fiber today

today's shits were legendary. can't wait to see what tomorrow's shits will bring.