/fat/ - Fatty General

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>>42102035
900g of apricots, gota get those carbs, did sub 25 5km run in the morning pre-work, cycled to work feeling good anons!

eat more brocoli anons, god tier vegetable

>>42102035
>What are you having for lunch today, /fat/?
I found a 500g pack of "mixed kebab meat" in my supermarket that looked so greasy it didn't need oil to cook, and had great macros.
Now I wish I knew how to vomit on command because my stomach is fucking killing me

>>42101969

Do you think this anon did anything special to avoid hanging skin?

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>>42102035
Salad with chicken and a spicy string cheese

>>42102035
bacon and eggs
no I'm not keto, that bacon just needed eating

>>42102089
He clearly wasn't super fat to begin with, but I doubt he took extra care specifically to prevent it.

>>42102089
Not sure how much weight he lost, but it looks under 100 lbs. The less weight you have to lose, the less loose skin issues.

>>42102090
>teaching English in nipland
>owns a real camera and not a phone
you have assimilated, my friend. see you at disneyland

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Confess your sins.

>>42102106
>>42102107
I'm even a little bit slimmer than his before pic but I'm worried for loose skin because I've been looking like that for maybe 10+ years (now 23)

>>42102123
38 Pilsner beers since start of the month balanced by 250km bike/60km run tho

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>>42101969
>>42101993
>>42102002
>>42102016
pls resbond

>>42102067
that would be bulimia desu

Lunch is... potatoes. Am currently on poorfag style diet.

>>42102090
looks fuckin tasty

>>42102110
Haha, I should probably go at some point. Maybe if I get a girlfriend...

>>42102128
I get it, but you can't really prevent it. Just remember what people think is loose skin is often fat still clinging to the skin, so get your body fat lower than your goal weight if your skin still looks bad and see if that helps.

>>42102145
Yeah, it works pretty well.

>>42102090
chicken looks a bit undercooked and rare in some shreds to be honest. Unless there are raw pork bits in it too?

>salad
lettuce - tuna - feta cheese - black beans - corn - a tiny bit of Caesar salad

>pasta with beed
shell pasta
beef - onion - tomato paste - salt pepper

no pic cause phone fell a lot of time and camera is shit now

>>42102172
beef*

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>>42102123
Starved myself all morning so was still within my limit.

Didn't even enjoy it.
Never do,

>>42102161
Nah, I'm sure they cook the shit out of it. It's like chicken breast, but maybe it's just processed chicken resembling chicken breast.

>>42102139
>potatoes
I recently discovered 500g of skinless potatoes in a jar from Lidl is only 250cal and is filling enough for an entire day. Nothing wrong with that.

>>42102128
I'm in the same boat as you, 23 and looked a little smaller than him but have 0 loose skin and 0 stretchmarks. Weight gain has always been suuuper gradual so never had to worry. Do you hae stretchmarks? I think they're a good indicator of loose skin to come.

>>42102160
>fat gaijin living in japan
>no girlfriend
shamefur dispray

>>42102182
>starved all morning
>morning
I hope you mean all day with that massive chunk of bread. You do realise domino's sauce has the same nutritional values as mayo right? chuck it out

>>42102206
>chuck it out
once every month isn't gonna kill me dude
but I appreciate your concern

>>42102182
those pyjamas are
C U T E
U
T
E

>>42102206
I had some stretch marks appear when I was like 15-16 on my belly, now they're almost invisible but I guess what's done is done, the damage is there and I'll just have to rock it

>>42102206
>fat gaijin no girlfriend

Yeah, I've been rejected several times. That's partially why I'm here.

>>42102243
You've probably been rejected cause you're a fucking gaijin

>>42102257
I don't want to derail this thread but that's absolutely not a negative in Japan as long as you are a dude (and white, I guess).

>>42102090
you on the JET exchange or working independent?

>>42102089
cardio + being constant in muscle development/movement/steady weight loss if you are young and loose it steadily ( not extremely fast ) it should be ok

>>42102299
JET, it's awesome and I'd highly recommend it.

To get things back on track : gyms are really expensive in Japan as a rule, so I'm making the most of it by going every day it's open (they close Mondays)

I'm paying roughly $90. How much are the gyms in your area? Do they have any nice amenities? My gym has a sauna and a nice soaking hot tub, as well as some skincare products. So I use the hell out of em to make the most of it.

>>42102243
You'll make it anon. Keep your hopes up, and go for the chances you're presented with before they slip away

>>42102322
>$90/mo
Broomstick, regular bench, gallon jugs full of water

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I bought some spices for cooking and stuff and most of them don't have any calories listed on them. However the motherfucking curry has 335kcal / 100gram. Is the curry powder the reason why i'm 50kg overweight, be honest fat? Is curry the disguised calorie jew?

>>42102591
Probably not, 100g of any spice is a fuck ton

Was so close to buying candy today, glad i talked myself out of it, holy shit it

>>42102198
It's definitely processed with added water. Stuff is so much cheaper to buy and serve in abundance

>>42102419
Thanks. That's why getting rejected is good, I'm not just doing nothing. I mean, it's not fun, but hey.

>>42102665
Nice dude. Candy is a huge waste of calories.

>>42102131
All that running won't counteract 3-4 beers a day on your liver man.

Fucked up yesterday and ate at maintenance, luckily didn't gain any weight but didn't lose any either

>>42102700
Do you know why maintenance is called maintenance?

>>42102035
Chicken 150g
Basmati rice 150g
Mixed veggies 150g

Getting a little more carbs today, since it's a running day.

>>42102206
>I recently discovered 500g of skinless potatoes in a jar from Lidl is only 250cal and is filling enough for an entire day
holy shit man at what price?

>>42102711
"Luckily" as in I didn't fuck it up even more by eating above maintenance you tard

>>42102723

shouldn't have put the luckily where you did in the sentence then

>anon you've been doing so well why don't you have a cheat day we brought pizza for the office

FUCKING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42102820
have a cheat meal, what's the big deal?

>>42102773
Not a native English speaker so I guess that's excusable

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/fat/ how do you stay motivated?
I stopped counting my calories, and my weightloss had grinded to a hult.

I lost 20kg (44lbs) in 6 months, most of that was in the first three, i'm still 117kg (257lbs)

I want to get healthier, and I know I can get back to where I was 4 years ago at about 80kg (170ish lbs). and i'm maintaing my current weight. but i cant seem to get lower

Any advice?

>>42102909
you can get lower.
you already lost 20, there is no reason you can't lose more.
Whenever i look at myself in the mirror and think "it's no use, this is as far as i can go", i just tell myself firmly "no, keep going, it'll be alright".
Sounds tacky, but works for me.
stick to your plan, keep going.

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>tfw you have been on too high of a deficit
>probably lost muscle

why can't I just not eat anything at all, lose fat and no muscle

>>42102909
117kg???? You go stare at yourself naked in the mirror until you cry you fat fuck

>>42102963
because that's not how it works, simple as that.
be patient. you can rebuild your muscle after you are satisfied with your fat.

>>42102909

I stayed the same weight for 6 months after losing 23kgs

One day I pigged out on some chocolate and I realised that this gives me very short term pleasure in exchange for long term misery. I started giving it some thoughts and as weird as it will sound, came to the conclusion that food is just fuel and it's a sad thing how much time I spent before, thinking about food. I don't mean to say I don't enjoy eating delicious things but I was able to negate my obsession with it because of that small realisation in the beginning.
Your answer to this problem may be different than mine but there's this fact that no one is shoving food in your mouth apart from yourself. Try to think of why you're using your hands to stuff shitty things in there, what that gives you and why can't you just distract your mind with something more useful than gluttony.

>>42102909

Lately I just take note (In the Notes app in my iPhone) of the foods I'm eating every day rather than getting autistic over the exact calories. I think it's more important to be mindful of what you are eating than to know the EXACT nutrition. For example, if I have to write that I ate 4 waffles, a double cheeseburger, fries, 5 slices of pizza in a day I know I fucked up. It depends on the individual though. If you're the kind of person that is in constant denial about just how bad the calories you're eating are you should dispel that by counting calories of everything you eat. If you're like me and prone to grazing throughout the day, or the occasional binge then just writing the foods you eat down might work.

NB: You do have to know the rough number of calories in your head for the various food you eat for this method to work. For example, you have to know that a burrito from Chipotle is ~1000 kcal.

Anyway, I started a ketogenic diet (already been dieting for a while now, but wanted to lose faster) 3 days ago and am down 6 lbs already. I know it's mostly water, but it still feels good.

>>42102980
That's the problem, I can't, I just dont care about how I look enough, that's why I got to this state in the first place.

If I was motivated enough by just looking in the mirror,I wouldn't be posting here

>>42102182
Speaking of which: Online orders at Dominos are 50% off through the 16th. Eat up, /fat/ties.

>>42102950
>>42103006
Thanks my dudes, I'll try take this onboard

>>42103007
Can't do that Keto stuff, It gives me bad headaches

>>42102981
so you want him to forever be skinny fat

>>42103035
>tfw got fat because of unlimited €10 coupons from a delivery website
I would just order €12-14 worth of food and pay fucking nothing for every meal, it's so stupid.

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>>42102123
Gonna down a whole bag of skinny pop today but won't go over my limit, father please forgive me. Just hope it doesn't fuck up my energy at the gym later today, along with weight lifting I have added core + 1 hour cardio as an everyday nessesity to my workouts.

>>42102123
I need to socialise the next couple days so will be eating at maintenance like a regular person. Probably go 1000-1500 over on Friday due to alcohol but such is life. I'll be good next week to make up for it.

>>42102717
67 cents. It's ridiculous.
Actually I'm going to go buy some right now, thanks anon.

>>42103242
just don't overcompensate.
next week continue as usual, or you risk falling off the wagon.
you already sound like you have a reasonable attitude towards this, but i'm just saiyan

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>tfw losing weight but man boobs arent going away

270>240 in 3 months but still have big bitch tits

>>42103248
Lidl lohnt sich

>>42103273
They won't be gone for another 60 pounds (if you're doing weight lifting, hopefully) so be patient.

Ok so i need some advice. Somehow i'm finding my way back into the army, and need to drop down to 13 min flat on 3000m runds. My personal best was 13.40 a few years back, but i must probably work my ass of to reach 13.00 by the end of the year. Anybody have any good cardio tips and advices?

>>42103324
There's an entire thread about running, dude.

Is Keto best for not becoming skinnyfat?

>>42103349
No, lifting is.

>be preparing to move in big city abroad for studies
>have researched good gym and swimming pool in same neighborhood.
>pin point exact location between the gym/pool and school to find the right place to look for rent.
>eventually do all the google itineraries I can think of (from home to gym/pool/school/dads place/back home and variations)
>calculate transport time for a sample of ideal days : 2h13 min to 2h43 min depending on if I go visit my dad or not.

Well I guess on the good side, I might shave off a good hour of that time by not going to school on weekends, and maybe visiting my dad only once during the weekend. But still more than 1h30 in underground+bus system is going to wreck my nerves.
I thought of a couple things I could do to handle it : read ebooks, do schoolwork+study, listen to audiobooks, watch short series episodes.
I guess it'll be worth it. There's no way I am not going to the gym at least six times a week, and the pool maybe thrice.
Wish me luck, anons...It'll be a new beginning for me, in terms of social, professional life. I don't want to mess this up, but I am scared. So I plan and prepare neurotically, I guess.

>>42103349
Just lift you fat fuck

>>42103248
>only 67 cents
deal right there, going to go out and buy some right now if they exist here. where are you from?

/fat/ty here, super out of shape, is cardio before my workout going to fuck it up or is it an appropriate warm up?

not doing legs today but still wondering if it's worth it first or if i should save it

What are the best ways to curb hunger? I'm slightly over weight because I snack too often and would love to make a change.

>>42103408
I like to do light reps as a warm up then slightly heavier sets then my working weight then do cardio after

>>42103429
Stimulants.
other than that low GI foods like oats.
rice works well too.
water and will power.

>>42103273
>240
>"why do i still have tits"

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Is wendys chili redpilled? This shit has like no calories in it but I don't believe them.

https://menu.wendys.com/en_US/product/chili/

>>42103275
ja heil o/

>>42103399
I've bought them in both english lidl and german lidl. Brit potato jars are slightly more expensive, but the regular fruit and vegetables are 100x fresher

>>42103429
caffeine shuts down hunger completely.Start drinking that black coffee

>>42103561
>small
>170cals
come on anon, this is like those "diet desserts" that are simply smaller portions of regular desserts. It'll just make you hungry for more. However if you're out with friends and need to not look autistic it's a good option

>>42103453
I am 6'2" and most guys who are 6'2" 240 have tits but not big ones

>>42103606
I drive Uber and I need some shit on the go and the chili fills me up pretty well, plus its hot so Im slamming that water

>>42103006
Different for me. I think I love God more than ever now but I no longer have desires to eat sweet tasting calorie dense processed junk food garbage.

I just love cooking different things now. If I lost weight just sticking to the same meals every meal I would have seen food as just fuel at least to me.

>>42103561
chili is not the worst food in general, nutrition wise.

you guys, I was just checking lidl's catalogue in my country to see if those potatoes were available and found that there's a silvercrest kitchen blender for 9.99 euros (260w), there are no references yet to what model it is on catalogue, just a picture and infographic on what its functions are. Should I cop? Sounds like it could be pretty handy.

>>42103763
silvercrest (house brand) stuff is mostly mediocre to acceptable, but what big mistake could you make for 9.99?
i just bought a bathroom scale from that brand, it was cheap, it measures my weight accurately and seems well built. i say why not.

>>42103887
>This.

Step on the scale, let it finish and then write down the reading.
Repeat 5 times.
If the number is the same, to within .1 of a lb, then it's accurate enough.

Also means that you've done some fat fuck step aerobics.

>>42102591
Why the FUCK are you putting 100G of powder in your curry? Holy fuck m8 get a grip

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>>42102909
>how do you stay motivated?

I remember that the alternative to discipline and responsibility is stupid, meaningless suffering and a slow, agonizing, embarrassing death.

>>42102035
Eggs, bacon, and low-carb toast, maybe a pear or some strawberries too

Comes out to ~230calories (without fruit)

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On my 9th week of uninterrupted hypo-caloric living and thrice-weekly lifting, I feel fucking AMAZING

for anyone that might need it.

https://libgen.pw/view.php?id=1544843

Had an off week this week guys, just kind of wasnt as stict as I should be. Gonna have two really good days now and then weigh, hadn't put anything on this morning so hopefully I'll see a pound loss then. Just be extra strict next week now anyway

>>42103006
This is what fat people don't understand, the root of their problems is their relationship with food.
Food is fuel.
Food can be tasty, food can be delicious, but when choosing what to eat your primary relationship should be "this food needs to be fuel".

Otherwise it is treated a drug, which is fine when being hedonistic on holidays but other than that fuck off, everyday drug use is bad.

>>42103408
Best to do cardio on off days or AFTER lifting.
Lifting while already fatigued makes you unable to lift as heavy and will make you less motivated.
A run after lifting can relieve tension and its less of a big deal missing a lap or two as opposed as missing a set.

Not something to be overthought but this is usually what most people end up going with.

>>42104671
Fuck it, gym tonight after work, can salvage this week matey's

How the hell can I lose weight when my job is at least ten hours a day. Kills all motivation

I don't know how to reduce my iron consumption. MFP is telling me corn flakes have 100 percent iron content for the day, but why can I can consume so little?

>>42104996
Why would you want to? Irons the shit

I kind of suspect the hard part will be to maintain your weight loss. I probably have to count my calories like an autist after every meal.

>>42105003
MFP says I've reached iron max

>>42104900
Eat less.

>>42102035
1 serving of nuts, weighted - 210 kcal
0,5L of soup - 200 kcal
one small donut - 200 - 250 kcal

Can somebody tell me how dangerous it is to only eat <500 kcal a day? I don't move a lot and take supplements, otherwise i eat mostly protons (unlike today). I want to reach a weight where i can build up muscle again and can do sport without problems again. I only use a stepper and do bodyweight exercises now and then

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Why aren't you posting your before/current body pics, anon?

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183cm tall and 105kg fat, been dieting at 1200-1300 cal for a few weeks now and im seeing progress.

However this feels way to easy, are my calories to high?

>>42105413
I'm around the same and i eat 1800 cals kek

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>>42105353
Because its only been a week and a half

Weighed myself on Sunday and lost 6 pounds though!

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>>42105665

>>42105353
because I'd get bullied

>wanna lose weight
>look in mirror
>realize my weight (90kg180cm) isn't the biggest issue
>kike nose, chinlet, dicklet, glasses that are too small for my head (it's huge) and I don't wanna get new ones because I paid so much for those (literally porsche glasses)

yeah nah, back to video games

>>42102035

6'3'' about 235 pounds. Fasted for about 36 hours now. Not hungry but I keep thinking about either food or how to best come out of this.

Was just fasting on and off lately for building up will power and testing the waters. Was thinking about trying to get into keto and coming out of the fast after a third day with a keto meal plan to keep the fat burning going. Anyone have an opinion? Also going to look for recipes now mostly I just know eggs and avocados. Also broccoli and bell peppers are unlikely to trip the keto up.

Think Ive gotten past the harder part of the fast and want to turn it into something that pays off. If I get near 200 or even 205 I can up the calories and push lifting to bulk.

>>42105353
I didn't take many before pics. I can take a 40 pound progress pic with a shirt on. But I'm going to have to lose another 40 pounds before a shirtless comparison is worth posting since I didn't take one until about 10 pounds ago

>>42102066

I was doing broccoli cauliflower and cut up carrots fried with soy sauce. Nice healthy meal and can dial back on the soy sauce over time to be healthier.

>>42102089

Looks like maybe hes down 40 pounds. Maybe 35. Also hes young and if hes lifting he will fill it in a bit. So I doubt he did more than that.

Supposedly long term fasting is being studied because it produced some results where the skin was absorbed and repaired.

>>42105665
Do it for Raphi

>>42102123

After going alcohol free for lent I started drinking again. Not an alcoholic but I get lazy when I allow myself a beer at the end of a long day working instead of getting shit done. Also makes me not lose weight.

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Mfw lost 2 kilos overnight

>>42102182

Always feel like shit after. If you are going to cheat plan it. You can absorb it better and you can plan ahead for the actual good food.

>>42102591
>dump a pound of curry powder in a bowl
>inhale it
There's your daily intake.

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>>42105822

indian gains

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Boys, I've committed myself to major changes. Started a weight loss vlog and everything. Pretty cringy now that I type it out but it keeps me accountable and my fat ass motivated someone else to start working out so I'm happy about that.
https://youtu.be/4XfB-XpoBhg

>>42105353

Because it's only been a month since I started. Going to diet for another month, then I might post pictures.

>>42105070

I think you will get a feel for how many calories are in your standard food after a while. Even cheat meals will be easy to get by since you'll just dial back on the calories for the other meals.

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We all know this feeling

>>42105872
fuck off attention whoring fat fuck

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In your opinion, why is /fit/ (and most definitely /fat/) full of minorities?
Are they generally fatter? Are the ones in the West having trouble getting girls and trying to compensate? No racism or judgement, honestly curious

>>42105953
IT'S CUZ OF DA ~RACISM~

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>tfw been a naughty boy today
>ate tons of spaghetti and marinara and a bag of chips
>still 500 kcal under TDEE and soon time for bed

>>42105710
>dicklet
Literally no girl cares about that, i assure you that. As long as your penis isn't a micropenis you will be fine. My ex had a huge penis but it was just too painful, i couldn't do a thing. Those guys have a harder time having a normal sex life, while having sex with a normal sized pecker (like 5" or smaller, yes i'm not kidding) is much more fun. Stop watching so much porn, reality is different.
>>42105795
you went on the toilet, right m8?

>>42105953

4chan in general seems to be diverse as fuck. Did you see the /pol/ shit like fucking with he will not divide us? People were Asian and swarthy as fuck.

>>42105953
I know someone who does a lot of data analysis for high level chemical purchasing who ran a bunch of factors on obesity and diabetes through a deep neural network. His R^2 was like 0.77 that skin tone was the major factor in diabetes and obesity rise when exposed to "western" foods. I'll see if I can get him to share the methods because it is actually pretty interesting.

>>42105953
Minorities tend to be poorer and tend to buy worse food because "it's cheaper than healthy".

Day 3 of fast, today I felt the closest thing to true hunger. Didn't succumb, carrying on into 4th day tomorrow, let's see where this is heading.

>>42106027
Is this right anons? Does fasting have an effect on the body besides burning off your body fat?

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>>42106058
Why dont they just become white?

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>>42105353
Because i'm only 10 days into weight loosing.

>>42106070
yes, the process that anon is mentioning is called autophagy - the consumption of dead skin cells- and there has been some evidence that fasting also detoxifies the intestinal tract by giving enough time for the organ to completely scrub the excess slime in the small, big intestine and colon. The clearer skin is a seen side effect of prolonged fasting that has been noted in studies. Story cheks out.

>>42105923
lmao sorry bro just looking for support from other fat asses.

>>42106174
>put the fucking fork down
There you go, all the support you're getting from me you attention whoring cunt.

life's shit and i seem to have misplaced my appetite because of that so i thought i might as well stop eating altogether 'til i'm back weighting about 60-65 kg's. are there any vitamins/minerals/idk that i should keep an eye on?

How do people feel about vitamins on a fast? I was reading the bottle and they put like a gram of sugar in there somehow. Am I going to trigger starvation pangs? I want a multi and some fish oil and vitamin d just to cover me in this fasting into keto diet time.

>>42105872
you're handsome and I'm sure you will turn out really good-looking when you've lost weight and reached your goal (:
I liked the video though i'm not a fan of smoothies; way too much sugar, at least in my opinion.

>>42106188
thanks bro. been eating 1300-1600 calories a day for a week now. down 7 pounds already.

>>42103561
Chili in general is pretty good cutting food.
>filling
>high protein
>high fiber
>around 200-300 calories per cup

It's also easy to make in a crockpot and pretty fun to mess around with what you add to it to make a good recipe. I add black coffee and a bit cinnamon to mine.
>>42104900
I actually do better with cutting when I'm super busy because I don't think about food/have time to eat. Lifting becomes almost impossible though.
>>42105353
I didn't take pics because I didn't believe in myself. Now I wish I had since I've lost ~40 pounds and built some muscle.

>>42106211
>>42106216
I think some micronutrients are fat soluble only, so you might be safe only going as far as your natural reserves will take you. Also it's good to note some micronutrients are produced by the body, others aren't, so you focus on the latter for supplementing. Best you can do is focus on the water soluble ones, and don't take it further than what your reserve's worth of the others before deficiency will take you.

>>42106236
thanks *blush*
Yeah, I don't really like the smoothie that much either
just thought I would show a way to have black coffee without refined sugar and cream.

>>42105353
I have been bullied enough for my weight, thank you very much.

>>42101969
It still amazes me that this shit is possible.

One day man, we are all gonna make it.

>>42102090
damn lookin delicious

>>42105353
>Lose 15 kilo
>take pic
>still look the same

well, 35 to go hehe ;_;

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had a bad day today boys

>snapped and bought a huge 4L tub of ice cream
>normally I do this then eat the entire thing
>managed to calm myself on the way home
>by the time I walked home realised that the big tub wouldn't fit in my freezer which is one of those crappy fridgetop freezer panel things
>normally I eat 4L at once
>realised I needed to return the ice cream
>turned and walked back to the store
>by this time the ice cream has been thawing for 1 hour and is starting to melt by the time I get back to the store
>they refuse to accept it because it is melting
>i get upset and leave the store
>sit at a bus stop eating the entire 4L tub
>like 5 buses come past
>people on the buses look disgusted
>on the 5th bus notice a cute as fuck girl
>for some reason decide she will find it sexy if I make a joke
>get on the bus
>LOUDLY say 'is this the ice cream truck i am running out'
>driver tells me to fuck off
>finish the ice cream and go home

that was like 5-6000 calories

>>42102136
Basically did some SS with rotating PPL and just eat whay yu want. Also proteins areoverrated and carbs under

>>42106295
Jesus you're absolute shit at being in public.

>>42106216
> a gram of sugar in there
Thats weird.
I do use vitamins, mineral supplements and especially lots of biotine but only because my diet is bad and because i cut by 1800 kcal a day, already fainting really easily. I dunno, get some on amazon or tabletts to dissolve in water, they usually have artificial sweeteners in them.
>>42106259
I just add some artificial sweetener like stevia, really like this stuff. Coffee smoothies don't sound that bad, I might give it a try (when i finally get my mixer!). While fruits and a few carbs are always good, your coffee smoothie will end up having the same amount of sugar in it, right? Or maybe more, do you think there will be a difference with just adding plain sugar for sweetness?
Anyway, I think it's a good idea, combining those two!
>>42106278
impressive
>>42106295
P U R G E
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Yeah, it happens. Just cut more the following days and return to your routine. Maybe find another, less harmful way to give yourself a treat, something with less calories. Sweet, puffed rice is great!

>>42103561
You should try making a big pot of turkey chili, it's really good and not that bad for you. Sometimes i'll do that and fill it with veggies for the week.

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Is it ever "too late" to change a bad lifestyle into a healthy one? Not talking about motivational quotes or some shit, I'm really curious about the actual science. When do you get to the point where you have done irreversible damage to yourself?

I'm 26 and my diet since childhood has consisted of red meat, fat, sugar and almost no vegetables, combined with a completely sedentary lifestyle, and excessive drinking and smoking for the past five years. I've literally always been overweight. Am I fucked, or can I still change my ways and live to be 100?

>>42106350
Change, now. It's not too late. 35 is the cutoff beyond which you're just doing damage control.

I LIFT THINGS UP AND PUT THEM DOWN

But I don't think this shit burns any calories. Or builds any muscle.

What about minerals when water fasting? Will a multi vitamin cover me or should I lick my sea salt shaker?

>>42106385
kys

>>42106402
Why?

>>42102182
I know this feelio, ate this 3X in 7 days with cheesy chips.

On the upside trying to limit protein once a week and doing glute bridges from the start means my ass no longer looks like an empty ball sack

>>42102123
I just ate so much Chinese food. I've been eating it since Sunday night. Gonna make a grilled chicken breast with some spinach for dinner though. Gonna do similar meals each night once the leftover Chinese is finished. I wish that fried wontons weren't so fucking delicious.

>>42106424
Just do it, post progress pics.

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>>42106431
Forgot offending chubbery

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How bad is to make and eat burgers?

>>42104253
This. In one of Jordan B Peterson's videos he mentioned something along the lines of "people don't change. A fat person goes to the gym for two days and then gives up". This gave me incredible motivation to do exactly that: change. Now 30 pounds down from 310 and still on track. Whether he said that to actually motivate people or because he truly believes people can't change their nature, i can say i'm not sure. I am sure that it gave way to change in my life.

>>42106486

depends on the fat content of the burger and what condiments you choose

if you want to min-max you could ditch the bun and use lettuce leaves instead like the ketofags

>>42106369
Okay, thanks. Better get started then...

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>>42106070
Did it for 3 weeks. Feelings of hunger fled after day 3 for me.

>>42106486
it is the lowest calories of fast food if you drop the chips/fries and cheese

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>>42106503
>only considers fat content

Why even post?

>>42106514
What about dizzy spells when standing up and moving around, or feeling pretty weak/sluggish?

I take it these just get worse?

>>42106530

what else do you put in the patty, spaghetti?

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>>42106532
Absolutely but you won't really notice until more time passes (though that really depends on how overweight you are). Get up slowly and don't move your head around quickly. After the second week my body felt sluggish throughout most of the day.

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Cravings are always the worst just before the shop closes. I wish someone could just chain me to my bed between 9 and 11 pm.

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>>42105353
40 down, 60 to go

>>42106326
I figure it's better in the sense that you actually get some fiber as well as other nutrients rather than just straight sugar. The fiber (as well as the coffee) will help suppress appetite as well

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>>42106580
That's the thing, I'm not overweight any more, I'm just cutting a couple points off my bf%. Weighed in at 170 a few hours ago, 6', some muscle, enough to not be skinnyfat in essence. Mirin my side profile in mirror, but right up close my chest looks like shite.

Holy shit I hadn't shaved in a longass while, I did, my face looks less fat.

>>42106519
>cheese
Is it that bad? My burger would be buns, patty and cheese.

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>>42106350
try cognitive therapy and self help books.
I'm going to show you a screencap of my lists of ebooks (pic related) that I downloaded of this website (link related), and get to working.
You have no idea how easy it is to make great amount of positive changes once you have the tools and are prepared for the thought processes behing them. You asked for science, here it is, only MD and PhD levels of authors applying their research to form therapeutical mechanisms and more.
Hope this starting kit will help you make great progress on the way.

https://libgen.pw/
search by author's name with the magic function.

>>42104145
i can use my old ass german made mechanical scale for reference. that thing is older than my parents, but i have yet to find anything more accurate and reliable. back then shit was built to last.
silvercrest scale is accurate enough by comparison.

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I had a Jersey Mike's chicken parm today for lunch. Please forgive me, I'm still at a substantial caloric deficit but it was way too much sodium

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>>42106657
Oh? Be really careful then anon. Gotta pay attention to the red flags your body gives you while fasting. Still have some weight to lose myself and can't really say I'd consider fasting after getting out of overweight territory.

>>42106625
nice anon, almost halfway there. Your face slimmed down quite a bit!

>>42106691
Yes.
Use artificial fat free cheese if you really need the placebo.
Borden >> Kraft

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>>42106691
not bad but cheese calories stack up fast, same with mayo and the oil in the bun if you are a fatty wannabe cook who fired their bun to seal it like me

>>42106698
Wow, thank you! That looks like a goldmine. I'll go through it tonight.

Any anons with experience getting their wife to lose weight? My wife was 120 7 years ago and is now 160 and rising slowly. Weve had no kids and shes had her gallbladder removed.

She keeps saying shes going to do it and i keep offering my support but she gives up after literally one day.

>>42106625
great progress! May I ask how much you weigh on the left?
>>42106635
true that. Honestly I barely eat fruit and should change that soon

>>42106786
Enjoy anon! It's my pleasure to help!

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>203 lbs back in May
>been doing ten minutes of weightlifting, twenty minutes of exercises, twenty minutes of running, Insanity every other day, plus stretching, frequent bike rides, and diet changes every day
>weighed myself yesterday, haven't done it since I started working out
>185 lbs
>nice
>weigh myself again
>175 lbs
Am I dying? My daughter and I just went to the Doctor's office for a checkup and her weight had only a tiny difference from their scale and ours. I'm worried.

>>42106698
>cognitive therapy
Not that anon but does it work without therapist?

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>>42106498
Peterson is here to awaken the heroes within us. We're gonna make it brah. Onward to Logos. Let's slay this fucking dragon together.

>>42106734
Thanks! can't wait to see how much it slims down after another 40.
>>42106791
Thank you, about 315 lbs (6'2 and an estimated 42% bodyfat). Weighed in at 275 lbs 35% bodyfat today.

>>42106840
yes, if you need to implement systems of cognitive therapies that are more advanced than the basic toolkits I'd recommend looking at manuals for practicioners targeted at helping them implement systems for clients, and learn from them yourself. It's really not that difficult to be the patient and the therapist, if you take yourself by the hand, which is ultimately the best you can do to heal yourself.

>>42106837
You were probably full of food/water for the 185 and totally empty for the 175

>>42106790
tell her you're gonna dump her if she doesn't get back to the starting weight.
make sure she knows nobody is ever gonna love her fat ass besides you.
be as cruel as you need to be.
that's the secret to healthy and long lasting relationships.
[spoiler]Don't actually do this[/spoiler]
[spoiler]do it[/spoiler]

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>>42106857
Do you think that pic related would help if i have chronic depression?

>>42106790
Lose weight with her? You could implement this as bonding experience such as doing cardio together or doing healthy food. Alternatively make a little competition.

>>42106864
Ive thought about doing this and honestly nothing else has worked so maybe itll come to that

>>42106249
Black coffee and cinnamon to a chili? How's the taste? What made you decide to try that out?

>>42106889
Ive tried that too. Im in pretty decent shape. Shes specifically said she doesnt want to work out with me.

>>42106902
Honesty works, some times.
No need to be overly cruel, though.

>>42106874
it's a great start. eventually if some problems subsist or you run into pitfalls, I'd recommend skimming through the classics on depression (I have quite a few in my list), as well as going through the research articles of cognitive therapists on your local academic source site to see the advancements of the science, the development of new techniques. There is only positives in learning how your ailment operates, and how to cope with it and work your way around it until life becomes somehow manageable. So you could read it first, even if it may seem introductory to you at the beginning (for someone who has depression it might be predictable), but overall there are some good sources, some good pointers where to look for in-depth research (see a particular concept you're interested in, investigate further).
Good luck, anon!

>>42106861
I had done it both times right after breakfast and a shower, both times it was plain yogurt. Is there any way two scales could be correct for one person and off for another?

>>42106889
This doesn't work because women thrive on feeling special and getting crap loads of attention. If you're doing it with her, it makes her actions less unique and divides the attention.

>>42106937
There's about an 8 lb difference between my scale and my friends scale. Unless you're using calibrated scales, stick to one and track the difference

>>42106874
i think going to a doctor and talkign to someone would help if you have chronic depression.

i was diagnosed with clinical depression early last year. i was having a breakdown. there were days where i would just stay in my room and avoid my family completely. i'd zone out and start crying if left to my own thoughts.

went to a doctor, got on anti-depressants, took steps towards getting better. went into group therapy, started going on a walk every day. when i could manage my anxiety i started looking for jobs, got one with a friend at a great friendly place, which made me feel even better.

>>42106962
>when i could manage my anxiety i started looking for jobs
Shit. I have massive anxiety about getting a job because i'm afraid of getting shitload of stress and ruining everything.

>>42106950
In my first post I said I brought my daughter in for a checkup, and she was weighed as a part of the process. Her weight was 134.6 lbs on their scale, 134.4 on ours, so our scale doesn't seem to be too off.

>>42106962
listen anon, I know you're trying to help.
Unfortunately, you might be one of the lucky few for which medication has "worked" rather than worsen things. In most cases, people associate a remission of depression (the end of a seasonal bout) with the recent start of a medication, while it's in fact cycles coming and going along. Most of the external factors you said, that are natural, like developing positive habits and going to therapy are however harmless and can only improve anon's circumstances.
I'd strongly advise against accepting prescription medication so rapidly, especially if it's anon's first bout of depression and if he's not knowledgeable in the fields of psychiatry.
Also I don't know where he lives, but in some countries, just going to a psychiatrist puts you on a looney list, as well as binds you to follow a treatment by law and in case you stop you can be instituted in a psychiatric hospital or facility for who knows how long, it'll be at the mercy of staff there, and from personal (my mother) experience they aren't generally keen to let the healthiest people go home.
Not to mention the countless side effects of meds, from hyper/insomnia to appetite enhancement and weight gain, to chronic fatigue, apathy, becoming a zombie, etc...
And if ever you have a bout with the law, good luck not being judged as mental once you have a psychiatric record, and having your case treated with prejudice against you because people wouldn't trust a crazy.
Yeah, no, I think anon is better off reading books for now. You had good intentions though, no harm done.

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>>42102035
I'm having relationship problems and I'm about to eat my problems away if I dont discoveer how to stop me

what do I do /fit/

>>42107052
You are posting here because you don't actually want to do that, you want us to tell you not to.
So don't. And go figure your shit out. You know this problem isn't weight related, and here you are trying to fuck yourself over twice by making it one.

>>42107052
hang in there, little potato.
long story short, some financial issues were going to break apart my long term relationship today, but after talking it through for hours with my boyfriend, we might have found a solution.
I cried for hours before that while he was at work, thinking this was the end. I'm glad he could come up with a solution because I couldn't personally. Still groggy and foggy puffy eyes from the crying. Will sleep early tonight.

/blog

>>42107052
Exercise gives you a better dopamine rush than eating. I used to be a stress eater and had never exercised in my life. I started exercising and almost immediately quit playing video games and eating sweets because it made me feel 100x better and I didn't have any associated guilt. Turn your frustrating into a tool to make a better you.

I've lost like 15 pounds now, still have 40 pounds left and considering DNP
who fat/fraud/ here?
what do you think of DNP

>>42105226
D-does anyone mind? I wont have internet for a few days and I'm a bit anxious if it's dangerous, even when done short-term
>>42106853
wow, thats impressive!
It's amazing how much people change while losing weight, like they lose their prison, their shell and are suddenly 'set free' or whatever you call it in english.
>>42106399
look up what amount you need of this and that mineral and vitamin per day and try to meet your daily needs. Electrolytes are important, yo
>>42106486
Maybe add some filler like lots of salad and tomatoes, don't use lots of ketchup or mayo, there are alternatives for it (can't name them though cause i absolutely dislike ketchup, mayo or anything similar, it makes me puke). Use low-fat meat and maybe use something different than white-meal bread. Whole grain maybe?
Thats all I can say about it, I don't really eat hamburgers, hope it helps
>>42106532
Oh i have this almost daily. I'm glad i can stay at home atm but when I have to ride I'm forced to eat a small amount of food, usually <200 kcal. Drink lots of water aswell, maybe antihistamines will help aswell. Although I think eating even small amounts isn't a fast anymore, right?
>>42106616
It'll stop after a few days, stay strong and stick to it. You'll come down after not eating simple carbs anymore, and you will notice how your awake- and awareness will increase, you will feel so much better. Looking back you may notice how fucking addictive sugar is
>>42106790
Puh, well... tell her you're afraid she'll get sick again due to her weight. Don't make her buy sweets or junkfood, be honest even if it sounds harsh. I don't know your wife and don't want to give false advice, so please don't hold me
responsible ;)
>>42106837
weight yourself again during the next days, mine varies a lot, too. I guess +/- 10 lbs are still okay, it's all water/food/poop that makes it change a lot (at least thats what I tell myself)

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why do people like to spread misinformation about diet soda? Not everyone wants to consume just water for all eternity.

Why give someone a reason to go back to regular soda?

>>42107052
get a trash bag and fill it with crumpled up newspapers.
hang it up on your ceiling.
now beat the shit out of it.
if you feel the need to binge eat, beat the trash bag instead.
go get a proper heavy bag at your earliest convenience and replace the trash bag with that.

QUICK QUESTION

how much does drinking a 3-liter bottle per-day increase my metabolism?

>>42107162
MY favorite is from a coworker who insists that diet soda has the same amount of calories as regular soda because of "how the liver processes it"

>>42107162
the better question is, why do you so vehemently insist on drinking soda?
it has no benefits and will destroy your teeth.
retarded.

>>42107162
ALL Soda is total garbage and there is no reason to ever drink it beyond your own addiction to it.

>>42107196
what are you talking about?

>>42107206
how hard would my metabolism be boosted if i drank lots of fucking water

>>42107218
your metabolism would not be "boosted" at all, but it would still be good for you.

>>42107218
None you idiot. Try speed.

>>42107218
I don't expect it would have any significant impact, but considering you are in /fat/ you should probably be drinking that much just to stay properly hydrated.

>>42107198
Why do people smoke, drink, do drugs, excessively exercise, binge eat, eat candy, self harm

some people need an out, lets not be retarded here

>>42107202
Theres no reason to play hours of video games, or drink tons of alcohol but people do it anyway, thats not an argument

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>>42105779
Thats the plan anon

>>42107197
>if im downing gallons of bland ass water everyone has too

>>42107246
>now anon, if your friend jumped off a cliff, would you do it too?
Unironically applicable

>>42107230
>>42107243
>>42107241

not that guy but holy fuck you illiterates yes staying hydrated DOES increase your metabolism, not sure how much but it does

>>42107246
then drink green tea instead.
that's at the very least not harmful to you.

>>42107268
Fuck you.
Drinking a 3 liter bottle of water isn't going to do shit to your metabolism.

>>42107268
boost your metabolism as in you don't die?
if anything, your metabolism slows down if you get dehydrated. try that one on for size.

>>42107267
I think the water is getting to your head

>>42107272
green tea isnt soda

>>42107292
then keep drinking unhealthy beverages till your teeth literally rot out of your mouth, if you don't wanna hear what people have to say.
why even post in the thread at this point?

>>42107162
what is
>coffee
>teas in varieties and spices you can only dream of
>herbal brews
>infused water (lime,lemon,orange,mint leaves, berries)
>maté/matcha
>leafy greens based juices
>coconut water

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>>42107249

for me it's vigne, the greatest of the dropouts

>>42107268
Yes, that's why I said "no significant impact" instead of "no impact"

The fact that drinking 3L of water is being considered for a metabolism boost instead of staying properly hydrated is dumb. I'm 200lbs, and I only discovered weeks ago 3L is how much I should be drinking regularly just as a baseline.

>>42107272
If he wanted to, that's what he would be doing. Green tea has nothing in common with soda.

>>42107260
kek
check out this palatelet everyone!

>>42107310
matcha is god tier, but so fucking expensive.
1k per kilo is where the drinkable stuff starts.
below that is only good as a baking ingredient.

>>42105353
I won't post mine until i actually make it

>>42107330
i probably drink closer to 5-6L a day. feels terrific.
peeing is very satisfying.

>>42107307
Because you retards need to stop spreading misinformation, good dental care can help your teeth not fall out. Most of us aren't European you can brush, floss, mouth wash and visit the dentist to protect your teeth

You people on this false crusade to help everyone and then telling people diet soda is worse then regular soda harms way more people then it does good

I'm not fat and Ive been drinking diet soda for years, I just want it to be known that its ok and not to listen to self righteous faggots like you

>>42107343
anon, this might change your life, but there's organic chinese matcha on aliexpress for 30 euros a kilo.

>>42105353
i don't have before/after pics, because i haven't reached "after" yet.
i do, however have taken a pic of my body every week since i started.
once i made it (which i will, believe you me), i will make a morphing gif, instead of a before/after comparison.

>>42107357
Aspartame causes diabetes and dimensia. We've know this since the 90's

>>42107390
and jelqing grows your penis

any more broscience?

>>42106014
2 kilos before shitting, lost a couple hundred grams after a pretty good dump.

>>42107367
>chinese matcha
baking ingredient. probably not even that for that price. hell, i bet they just ground up some cheap green tea. probably all brown and icky.

>>42107390
>dimensia

Is this the key to interdimensional travel? Was it aspartame all along?
No but you're right, it causes dementia.

>>42106295
you should have tossed that shit out the window you fatty fat fuck

>>42107357
newsflash: there is absolutely no reason to drink soda of any kind other than mental weakness.
you act like you absolutely NEED to consume that piss or something.
pro tip: you most certainly do not.

>>42107402
I think it's legit because the chinks make a profit on shaving off shipping/retailing prices. However you're right, it might be mostly used as a baking ingredient, though I've read some reviews and people are drinking it. Is it worth trying? Could be.

>>42107423
Uh, except for some people its an escape. Im sorry moses everyone isn't as holy as you and some people need outs. Drinking diet fucking soda isn't one of the worst outs possible.

stop being a faggot. People here want to lose weight, drinking diet soda over regular soda helps period. Im tired of people lying to people just to make themselves feel holier

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>>42107162

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>>42107403
>>42107390

>2 seconds on cancer.org debunked this

>>42107444
i wouldn't bother. it's not gonna be good.
there is no way they can produce it properly for that price.
get some nice japanese matcha if you wanna try it. 1 buck per gram is what you are gonna pay minimum for ceremonial grade matcha.

>>42107475
its not bait

weight loss is calories in vs calories out.

>>42107476
>he goes on cancer.org to get his medical sources...

Anon, I have some bad news...it's cancer.

ITT: some faggot desperately seeks approval for his unhealthy addiction.

>>42107485
I'm thinking if I am going to pay that price I might as well invest in quality stuff and import it from japan. Got any reliable brands, sources to get it internationally shipped?

>>42107492
Sorry, I don't get my information off of bodybuilding forums

I\m starting to think /fat/ s 300 pound lardos trying to give other 300 pound lardos advice they got off youtube

>>42107162

People who need to stop drinking soda should not be taking in something that keeps the sweet tooth strong.

>>42107526
i buy mine from Aiya, they have a decently priced selection and high quality stuff.
a little more on the pricey side though.

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>>42107313
Good choice anon, as long as you arent a dirty Satania fag every dropout is best.

>>42107522
i went from borderline obese in high school to normal weight in my 3rd semester of college

if this is unhealthy fuck it, I look good

>>42107566
as opposed to drinking something you don't like? so you can get angry and relapse on regular shit?

whats the point

>>42107533
Duh? Of course it is.

>>42107533
>gets discredited because he (badly) references a piece of information from the website of a society (no less), which is known to be biased towards the advancement of biopharmaceutical industry profit margins, has no regards to patients welfare (yeah could have picked better than cancer.org, especially when the domain of expertise we're discussing is dementia being linked to aspartame (where's the missing link in anon's head - who knows?)), to try and infirm the argument of two anons.
>his counter-argument is discredited on the basis that it is not founded on the scientific method, has no empirical evidence through studies and research to show forth to advance his claim.

>tries to discredit the advice posted on here by saying it comes from "bodybuilding forums" and "youtube".

You're a fucking plebeian mate, even meatheads on forums like bb and youtube meme channels back up their claims more than you.
You want the heat? I'll give you the heat.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28499986
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28465241
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28274718

>>42107567
thanks for the hot tip, anon.
Will go check it out right now!

>>42107644
So you proved cancer.org right?

The studies say there might be a link but its so poorly understand that no real conclusion can be drawn

wheres the hard evidence, like the chemicals cigarettes being directly linked to lung cancer

>>42107679
understood*

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>>42107679
okay idiot, clearly you have no reading comprehension and I don't expect you to have a major in neurochemistry either, so here's the abridged version of one article for you.

>It is now known that N-glycans play significant roles in AD development. However, specific pathological functions of particular glycan epitopes on each AD-related glycoprotein are still poorly understood.
What are N-glycans? Pic related.

Read more here to understand how it all works.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1917/

Also don't expect me to believe you read and understood everything that was said in those articles without the use of a microbiology dictionary, moron. Clearly you just jumped to the words you understood and puzzled an incomplete answer out of it...

>>42105808
noted

I think I can get away with a personal pizza every 30 days
even if I don't understand why I want it

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I was doing well until this afternoon
still behind

glad my shitty day didn't impact my diet too much

The only thing I can cook are veggie wraps with hummus

Idk. I try to cook and fail miserably. Never cooked anything properly

>>42108267
Making a sandwich isn't cooking.

Cooking requires practice. How many dishes have you tried to make? Just keep going and always follow a recipe. Watch a video of someone cooking it before your attempt.

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>>42108260
>chicken, brownie, and oat teas
Where do you buy these?

>>42108335
it's britain m8, everything is tea

>>42107132
DNP is absolutely based but if used incorrectly you will absolutely 100% die I cannot stress that enough.

That being said, I made months of progress in a few weeks on the stuff.

Also it isn't fun, like at all. The entire time and even up to like a week after you feel like complete shit and it's hard to function normally.

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Japan guy from earlier here :

When I went to the gym last night they were showing sumo wrestling on the TVs. Very motivating to be losing weight while watching those giants.

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>>42106037
Please do anon
>Underated post

>>42102067
>I push my fingers into my mouuuuuth, it's the only thing that slowly stops the ache

>>42106791
Also I did the math and all the fruit I put in only amounted to a teaspoon of sugar so you can choose:
>a) one measly teaspoon of refined sugar
>b) 2/3 of a cup of fruit
idk about you but I usually have 2 tablespoons of sugar in my coffee so this is a big reduction.

>wake up for work
>have a bowl of quick oats, with some cinnamon
>after work make a salad from a chicken breast, romaine leaves, cucumber
>bought a chicken burrito bowl with rice, lettuce, and jalapeno for later
>walked the 6 flights of stairs to my office
>walked around the campus during an extended break, and a bit for my work assignment
>going to go to the gym to do some weight lifting later tonight
>drinking my 4th bottle of water of the day


Is this what making it feels like?

>>42105353
I didn't take a before pic, because I didn't want to have a pic of my fat self on my hard drive (I kinda regret it now). I'm about 10 lb from making it, I guess I will post a pic with a graph of my weight loss once I've made it.

>>42105710
You might as well get a rope from Walmart and hang yourself if you don't care about making it just because of some small imperfections.
>I don't wanna get new ones because I paid so much for those
sunk cost fallacy

>>42105710
>porsche glasses
what a moron you are.

>>42106295
>LOUDLY say 'is this the ice cream truck i am running out'
haha that's funny, if I had been on the bus, I definitely would have laughed. You should have given it to some hobos though, this way the ice cream wouldn't have been wasted, and you wouldn't have gained weight.

>>42106350
You can definitely reduce the damage, living to 80 is better than living to 60, and let's not even mention how much the quality of your life would improve, or how your death would be preceded by a myriad of health problems as a fatty.

>>42106625
Not trying to shit on your progress, but your before and after photos look almost identical at first glance, because the black shirt hides your shape. It is noticeable upon further inspection that your waist diameter has decreased significantly, but one has to look hard to see it.

An old coworker of mine I haven't seen in a while posted some pictures on FB about how he put on a lot of weight and wants to get it off.

I sent him a message offering support and letting him know what I've been doing to lose. I used to be fatter then him, so it feels good to be able to offer help now.

>>42107162
Once you stop consuming sugary shit, your taste will adjust, and you won't crave it. I stopped putting sugar in my tea, and it tasted awful at first, but now I love it. Drinking diet sodas is a gateway to drinking regular sodas, or eating shit like cakes that only contain useless crap like carbs and sugar (I know sugar is a carb, it's just a specifically useless one).

>>42107589
>so you can get angry and relapse on regular shit?
Low willpower piece of shit, not gonna make it with this attitude.

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>lost over 70lbs
I think i have willpower of the gods, I'm losing weight on godmode
>mom buys chips and cookies
>they're on the table open
>icecream in the freezer
>Popsicles in the freezer
>doughnuts on the table along with cinnamon rolls and cinnamon bread
>no fapping for over 3 months
>go on 4chan for hours a day
>do not give in
>go to gym
>have been going since 2010, "bulked without cutting"
>see asses in spandex
>don't give in to fap post workout
>pass by the dozen fast food res truants without ever going because I'm too cheap and rather buy chicken
>1700-1800 a day calorie diet,tdee 2600

I hope I don't even look like the same person as before, my cousin who used to grab my man tits has gained so much weight. he used to say "i'll never be fat, i can eat what i want" it's going to be strange to see him this coming thanksgiving when he's fatter than I. I'm going to grab hist tits and eat a big ass plate under my TDEE and say "I can eat what I want and not gain weight"

>>42107456
>except for some people its an escape
If it's an escape, there are many things wrong with your life beyond being fat. Weight loss takes more than half a year if you're fat, you might as well work on fixing your shit too in the meantime.
>but I can't
Not an argument.

>>42110815
Unfortunately, it seems like nobody here is prepared to deal with the shit they have that isn't weight related. I'm glad I did a lot of work on that already, that was tougher than losing weight has been.

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what happens after you make it?

My mom is baking me a cake on the weekend, and you know what? i'm gonna it.
i've been so tenacious with my working out and dieting over these past few months, i deserve a treat.
i'm not even gonna count the calories.
I'm just gonna eat the cake my mom made for me and when i'm done, i'm gonna say thank you and that it was delicious, because it will be.

>>42111053
You keep working to get better. Or you think you are done and gain weight.

>>42111059
Despite what people will tell you here, that's absolutely fine. Moderation works if you actually stick with it, and doing this once on your birthday won't ruin your progress.

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>>42111059
you're not going to make it.

>>42103007

I think autistically counting and recounting every once in awhile in your head is good, it keeps you focused.

The hardest habit to learn is to count the fuck ups too, if you do that you'll less likely to fuck out of shame.

>>42110640

Yeah this is a problem I have.

The only photos I ever kept of "fat" me were wearing black shirts or at angles that make it easier to hide the fat.

Ultimately, I know I went from a 42 inch waist to a 36 inch waist and thats the best measurement.

>>42111059

It's like watching a man point a loaded gun at his temple while screaming "DON'T WORRY I'M FINE"

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>>42102066
I really, really hate broccoli though

This morning I had a half a cup of oats, scoop (20g protein) of whey, and a tablespoon of peanut butter, in a shake with water.

Lunch was with colleagues, single plate of veggies and mushrooms at a fucking chinese buffet... (why they make shit so hard?) and unsweet tea.

Light, small portion of cabbage soup for dinner. Few mixed nuts as a snack (like 5 nuts, not even a handful).

Lifting 3 days a week, today is a recovery day so I'm hoping I'm riding the line between feeding my body for recovery and not fucking up the work I'm putting in. Tomorrow is HIIT cardio for warmup, Squats, Bench, and Bent Over Rows, Curls...

I really want to kill myself. My weight has stalled all month for eating so much I hate this time of year. My depression gets worse and it's fucking hot outside I can't wait until September lads

>>42111226
Wtf man, broccoli is delicious. If you don't like the taste, just boil it longer.

>>42111427
Fuck that then it just gets mushy and even more disgusting. The taste is fucking repulsive enough already.

>>42111226
You try them raw? They just taste like water when they're raw.

>>42111226
How do you prepare it? Not sure how you can dislike it...

>bring water to boil
>dump in broccoli cuts
>when water boils, remove and strain
>light salt, pepper

>>42111388
I'm stalled too, but not really... 250 down to 235, but my belt is still loosening so I attribute it to body recomposition which is also part of the goal... less fat... more muscle.

>>42111483
Been stuck at 181 since the 29th, originally 220, I barely look different due to body dysmorphia. The heat makes me not want to move and half ass my counting and weighing.

>>42111519
just stop eating friend and accept the teaching of our saviour jason FUNG into your life, works for me

>>42102123

Last week I had pizza, with wings and poutine as well as chicken fingers. then on the weekend I had ribs and shitload of beers with the boys.

In spite all of that fat shit, I stepped on the scale this morning after eating clean again for a day and Im at a lower weight than I was last week already.

NO REGRETS, NO CONFESSIONS, IDGAF

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Been at a machine gym for 2 months haven't gotten much accomplished, was only going twice a week because of 12 hour workdays and overtime. Did improve my running from going 1 mile to 2 miles per sesh though and went from 85 to 40 on the pullup assist weight. Also dropped 185lbs to 178. My body shape literally did not change at all except my stomach seems to be less dense when I poke it now.

Got a new membership at freeweight gym last week on my 2nd week of 5x5 stronglifts, going 6 times a week starting now with 3 of those being cardio. 145 squat 95 bench 85 rows 55 OHP 145 deadlifts so far.

I think I'm going in the right direction but I still fear my body will never change and I'll be a fat weak piece of shit forever.

>>42111588
honsetly dont expect many gains on stronglifts/start strenght. do PPL

>>42111588
nice nip blur

>New job has a treadmill desk
>New job has a gym in the office
>Was able to walk all morning
>Was able to lift and do my pushups/situps routine during my lunch
>Another team member got a promotion so I became a technology owner on my first day
>Might be able to get my best friend a job there
>Met for drinks after work to talk about it
>He had to work an extra 2h so I hit the gym again for my couch 2 5k
>Drank 2 michelob ultras (low carb piss water) while he ate baked macaroni and cheese with grilled chicken breast on it
>Resisted all temptation, remained in my macros
>Got home and gave my phone a charged
>Went to the gym and finished my weight lifting set so I don't fall behind
>PR'd all of them despite exhaustion
>Laying in bed with the heating pad on watching cartoons and writing this while drifting off to sleep
>Got at least 3 mires in the office
>Saw a bunch of old coworkers who complimented how I look now

everything is coming up apple, my dudes. its been a hard... life but I finally feel pretty good, despite having a ways to go.

>>42111740
Thanks man, I did it for you guys, seriously no one needs to see that shit. 10,000 hours in mspaint.

>>42102035

5' 10" (179cm), 312lbs/15st 12lbs depending on how the scale feels (+/- 3lbs)

>haven't drank any soda in 2 weeks, avoiding anything else sugary like the plague
>normal diet, no calorie reductions or changes yet other than soda

Waiting to kick in eating properly for beginning on next week, or should I do it now? I'm doing it stages so I can keep it up.

>>42111226
>>42111443

Bruh, boil a pan of water, dump some soy sauce in it, just a bit, you can put in a slice of lemon instead for a different tinge of flavor. Take your broccoli and a pour a little bit oil, dont drown it, just enough so that you can season it with pepper, salt, and garlic powder. Mix it all up. When the water is boiling put the broccoli in a metal strainer, put that it the pot and cover the strainer with a lid. Turn the heat down to medium and leave it for 5-7 mins.

Perfect broccoli everytime.

>>42110788
Major props to your will power. I've lost 140 pounds and still have problems resisting temptations when there's garbage around the house. Luckily I really only have issues when I smoke weed and the munchies take over, but I dont smoke as much as I used to anymore. Now the only things that really test me are when there's some decent bread lying around the house. I try to stay away from bread as much as possible because I destroy that shit no problem.

I've got a friend who has a way of getting under my skin and I fucking love that not only do I weigh less than him, but he's now the fattest dude in our group of friends. I used to be the butt of the fat jokes and genuinely didnt mind, I love my friends and none of it was mean spirited, but he was still a fat fuck and would be the one to make the most jokes about my weight, sometimes to the point where it was clearly past lighthearted jabs. Everytime I see him I relish the fact that he cant say a single thing about my weight.

>>42111186
Bruh he's not gonna relapse and gain 100 pounds overnight because he had cake one day.

>>42111087
Fuck you shithead.

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>>42111388
There's one simple thing you can do

>>42111878
try starting tomorrow. don't focus on eating healthier foods at first, just start calorie counting so you get a feel for it. try 3 days with a 2500kcal limit, then another few days at 2000 then whenever you're ready hit your actual calorie goal for cutting.
i've found this site gives me the most accurate TDEE and cutting goals.
http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html

i'm still just cico cutting 4 months in and haven't fully switched to a healthy diet.

>>42111758
are you still going to be retarded and ship out or instead stay in this nice comfy job?

>>42106625
are you peter svidler?

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it's possible guys.

I should be under 200 by now. I haven't lost anything. I gained 5lb. Is it over? I can't go back to being even fatter. But my metabolism is slowing down or something. Or maybe I'm snacking more than I think, I don't know. I'm afraid to use MFP again.

>>42112490
>I'm afraid to MFP again

I think I figured it the mystery of your gaining weight

>>42112521
I think I did too.

I ate Jimmy Johns and an entire pizza in one day and gained five pounds of food weight and probably tomorrow or the next day I'll be back at 210 (I was already back at 212 today)

>>42112531
Then why did you post as if you didn't know?