/fraud/

I'm at over 200mg a week

My dick has stopped working

Erections dont last

Can't get it up, no more morning wood

I need to get some AI or do a PCT already

I don't know where to get anti estrogen...

>>42020058
maybe you should have thought about that before blindly hopping on huh

>>42020058
How fat are you sissy?

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>>42020082
>At least the gains are good

>>42020086
>265lb
30%+

>>42020082
I have a doc helping out

I'm running on another 8-12 weeks and than I'm off for the year

>>42020116
if you have a doc helping out why can't he look at your bloods and prescribe you a goddamn AI

>>42020236
apt this week

>>42020058
false flag

Gfs female friend will be staying the night 4th of July and we will be sleeping in the same bed tomorrow night

How do I initiate a threesome

Additional information: gf asked what I thought of threesome last week is it happening

>>42020288
REEEEEEE

How much (ballpark) would a low dose HGH only cycle cost me? 2IU daily for 3 months?

>>42020317
you can get legit chinese generics for about $1-2 USD/IU

not sure why you would want to run 2IU/day though

>>42020288
Threesomes with a committed partner are a trap. Someone will be left hurt and unfulfilled. Probably your girl, who will use this event as a way to create space between you two. Be smart about how you approach the situation; don't think with your dick.

>>42020279
I wish I was lying

I don't know what is the cause of ED dick but it will be fine over time

I'm going to the doc and see what i can get

>>42020365
God I hate women why can't I have a cute trap (male) gf

>>42020404
I would suck a cute sissies tiny cock desu

>>42020337
So I just need to find a legitimate source for Chinese Genrics

Easiest way to get BTC now that circle is dead

>>42020522
coinbase

Anyone else not run an AI during simple test cycles? I'm on 500mg/week and the biggest side effect I have is a little chest and shoulder acne. 8 weeks in btw.

>>42020288
don't initiate, if you want it to happen talk to gf, make a plan, let her think about it.
Talk about all possible cons etc. You have to make everything absolutely clear to her, she is probably pretty stupid.

Only then you might think about it.

Or if you don't care about gf, just all of you drop some molly plus cialis and go at it.

>>42020534
I have to. Have baby gyno glands that'll sprout otherwise

>>42020534
I can't get AI

My doc is a bitch and she told me no checkup until after my first cycle

She is using me for money and I know it

I'm going in and demanding proper PCT another 20ml vial and something for AI and HCG

I'll pay it, but they want life time customers not 1-2 cycles a year.......


I noticed how she acted when I asked a question and this bitch is really just selling steroids and thats her only goal...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>42020581
why the fuck are you cycling trt lmao

you're a fucking idiot

>>42020588
I had horrible test levels

LOW TEST

I'm only doing this to change my life

First cycle = my life is 100% better but I don't want to run year round

>>42020605
if you have low test you go on trt for life. cycling isn't gonna do shit for you, retard. it's gonna end, you're gonna lose all your gains due to your low test levels and you're gonna feel like shit.

no shit she wants you on for a lifetime, that's what fucking trt is.

How much of your gains did you keep after your first cycle? Does it vary person to person?

>>42020610
But my goal is to cycle yearly

It is more dangerous and more side effects to blast/cruise right?

>>42020646
If you're dyel you can keep 90%

>>42020365
This anon's advice only applies if you care about staying long-term with the girl. The problem is that while you're girlfriend might like the "idea" of a threesome, she may not be mature enough to handle all the emotions that will inevitably come up from watching her boyfriend fuck her friend.

Sometimes girls are more OK with threesomes if you don't penetrate their friend like: you watching them lez-out, or they give you a joint handy, or your girlfriend blows you while her friend forces here head up and down, shit like that.

>>42020659
you're a moron and you'll see why you're a moron about 2 months after your first "cycle" (200mg lmao) ends

low test means you go on TRT for life, period. your cycle will make you feel good for about 12 weeks then you'll go back to your low test, lose all your gains, feel even worse than you did before your first cycle and want to end your life

this is a rare case where your doc actually knows better than you.

>>42020534
Same desu familia, and i am not very lean also

>>42020610
oh look another drug addict telling others to "cruise"

>>42020690
HCG
PCT
Workout harder, why wouldn't my test get back up to at least normal range?

I had low test, but probably due to bad sleep, and never workout out, stress, depression.


Now that is all gone = test

>>42020659

You dense motherfucker. It's not a blast and cruise, it's TRT.

If you're going to use steroids for performance, then it'll be blast and cruise, because there's no point in doing PCT when you need TRT.

Does anavar cause hair loss?

And if so, are there any steroids that do not cause hair loss?

>>42020701
STOP

>>42020726
>And if so, are there any steroids that do not cause hair loss?
no

>>42020675
Correct. I agree. I don't mean to say his girlfriend is incapable of making a rational decision, just that these are bigger decisions than "friend is having a last minute sleepover should I fuck them." Some couples spend years discussing these nuances.

>>42020701
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>42020728

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>>42020288

If you have a "serious" relationship with your girlfriend, then

DONT
FUCKING
DO
IT

>>42020758
lol this is silly and some guy being fucking stupid the lesbian did nothing wrong

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Brehs I'm fucking torn. This girl that genuinely made me start enjoying where I work right before I was about to quit is leaving soon after they fucked her over.

Problem is I'm literally head over heels for her and I mean I haven't asked her to be my girl (because co-workers) but she must know with me always walking with her too and from work, to her car, and inviting her out outside of work. I don't know if I should just pull her aside and be honest or what. It's like time is running out and if I fuck it up I may never see her again. Plus I suck ass at flirting.

>>42020891
Make plans with her you little wussy.
>hey since you're leaving soon why don't we go putput golf and grab some beer after
if this is a challenge for you, i fear your future, anon. cmon you're better than this.
>>42020726
a few weeks of var isn't going to make you bald, bro

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So will my dick ever work?

>>42020534

you don't need an ai with 500 it's just precautionary. I've been skipping adex doses and I'm fine minus some bacne. Perma cycle though and I'm hitting up some tren and getting back to 4-5 days of the gym.

Personally up to 650/750 you should be fine minus lipids

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>>42020936
>this is a challenge for you, i fear your future
I blame it on muh assburgers. But seriously I don't want to just be like "I love you" out of the blue. One of my friends told me just say it but it feels kinda cringy and I don't want her to shut down.

>>42020994
Dont listen to this guy

>>42021014
>i don't want to just be like i love you
dude what?
no.
how old are you?
do not straight up tell her how you feel just bc you work with her ffs.
just plan some kind of hanging out with her outside of work and keep your autism very very hidden. DO NOT tell her "how you feel", brother.

>>42021014
This will fuck up your entire life you autistic fuck. Jesus christ you've never even been anywhere together. This is the creepiest anyone could do in any situation.

>>42021023

rookie don't talk shit, even my source agrees 500mg is without ai when I was holding myself to getting some.

you're overestimating how heavy 500mg affects you

>>42020532
(((coinbase)))
enjoy your back taxes you stupid nigger.

>>42021014
god fucking damn, how autistic can one single person be?

look man, i get the roid thing alll the time, like i get that demeaning peoples achievements is a way of making yourself feel better. but its unironically pathetic to witness. genuinely. Ive told you that ive used sarms, but ive never used roids. i dont know what you actually want me to tell you man. on the subject of roids though, you still have to train on roids, so its not like those people still dont work. i could give a shit if someone is natty or not, my old gym pal used deca and ive helped inject him. its notthe biggest deal to use roids. its a drug, big deal.

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>>42021109

step to the dark side, it's a drug but it's actually wonderful don't knock it till you try it.

even injecting is a rush I put another 250mg in my Delt today considering upping to 750mg again and rocking some bodybuilding routines vs strength as I have been.

also I'm realllllly into Asian girls right now, Korean girls driving me crazy

pic related goal bod

I've seen a lot of posts saying only use roids if you've been lifting for at least a year.

I use to be in decent shape (100+ push ups, 20 pull ups) about 5 years ago, but haven't lifted in years and previously used to only do bodyweight exercises.

If I lift and diet right would it still be really damaging to do a cycle to "kickstart" getting back into gym after several years?

^huh?
no (you) for you buddy

>>42021191

of course, you will amplify results and accomplish personal strength feats quickly. I've taken the last 2 months easy and minus some accumulated fat Im treating it as walking back in and a challenge. muscle memory is a beautiful thing and if you train properly and use a combination bodybuilding strength routine you will have results.

I've found 5x5 with a 3 and 1 rep set on compounds alongside appropriate for your body accessory work has the best results.

>>42021095
do something for me okay

go to r/sst or r/steroids and search [review], now go through ALL the reports one by one. you'll see that even people on 150mg a week NEED AI to be within range. without fault.

all the retards who said "I wasn't using any AI" follow it up with "I guess I will now" because their e2 is 4x+ times outside of the reference range.

I fucking hate you retarded beginners going "hurr I don't need AI because I didn't grow tits"

>>42021096
yeah it's much better giving your money to some jew on localbitcoin overcharging you by 50%

>>42021246

r/steroids is beginners haven. show me bloods with 500mg and I'll eat my words. I've been perfectly fine blasting 500-650 with minimal ai after being religious with .5mg adex per injection. Again, from personal experience and with dialogue from my guy, 500mg is still manageable without ai at worst.

My bloods drew up fine and my sides have been some bacne. Also for the ball size wonderers my testes are pretty much the same size from prior to current.

You're acting as if I've committed a sin of rousing when you're working by the book of "as long as you do this nothing can fuck up" when nothing has fucked up for me again from personal experience

>>42021246
Why would i want estro in range? If you are not bothered by sides estro is good for keeping your lipids in range and the anabolic properties it has

>>42021331
>r/steroids is beginners haven
what the fuck are you saying? you think being a beginner impacts how your body's production of estradiol?

I'm telling you, right now, go to r/sst and just put [review] in the search box and you will see LITERALLY hundreds of blood reports.

>>42021339
enlargement of the prostate, high blood pressure, spiking of blood pressure, bloat, oiliness, mood swings, lethargy, weak erections... I could go on.

>>42021362

estradiol isn't to be fucked with I agree but from personal experience that site isn't the bible itself

it's what works for you

>>42021375
>that site isn't the bible itself
dude what are you even saying

I'm telling you to look at BLOODS on the site. objective science, not "but my gut feeling tells me" garbage

>>42021362
I give you the prostate, but all the others sides are what i told you i don't get

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>>42021388

I'm not here to argue you're probably more correct than me and my gut. Now, tell me why you don't have a Korean gf

>>42021399
I grew out of my yellow fever and started liking t h i c c girls

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>>42021429

we went to a Korean bar/restaurant today and there was the biggest qt korean waitress.

I have a problem

>>42021399
>>42021438
these aren't the same girls right? man all these famous korean girls get the same surgery they en up actually looking the same

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Been off cycle for like 3 months now. I still pin my ass twice a week with a needle so i keep fresh and don't get back into it all scared because i forgot how easy it is.
I wanted to step up the realism of my routine injections.
Would it be harmless to shoot up some BAC water into my ass?

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>>42021471

>>42021471
lol what the fuck

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>>42021471

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>>42021452

desu I can't tell but they look different. This girl today man, you can't tell if you're cradle robbing or hitting on a girl your age, I love em.

something about white and yellow makes a good looking kid guys I'm signing up

>>42020758
Having a 3some with a dyke is like MMF not FFM. Only a cuck would do such a thing.

>>42021471
stop injecting outside of the usual cycle injections

>>42021546
>wanting to make more supreme gentlemen

>>42020100
lol this is bait

Doing a recomp
TestE/Var/ and either Tren or NPP

Which one is worse for the heart? I wouldnt doing a crazy big dose. And itd be Tren E. Taking all the usual supps and vitamins

>>42021771
what kinda sups and vits

>>42021771
>Which one is worse for the heart?
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/5kmur7/nandrolone_and_the_risk_of_left_ventricular/

>>42020701
Then why fucking roid to begin with. No cycle, no blast, just cruise at low dose, or get TRT from your doc.

Fucks sake

>>42021546
White girls are gorgeous, yellow girls are gorgeous. Not surprising halfbreeds look good.

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>>42021546
>something about white and yellow makes a good looking kid guys I'm signing up

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>>42021934
>Then why fucking roid to begin with.

Serious depression
Went to doc for a check up
Full test panel
Everything is low
Post images of blood work online
Guys on steriod forums ask me if I'm like 70 or something
Umm
No
Ended up with low test, started cycle

I think I'll get the PCT and AI but more than likely I'll continue the cycle

Blast and cruise right guys

Should I at least get HCG?

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>>42021832
Tudca (not currently), cholestoff, B12, D, Zinc, Milk Thistle (currently), CoQ10, fish oils

No beef in diet, low carb, lots of fish

>>42021895
Appreciate it

>>42022081
Oh and a calcium supp cause I was running a SERM for awhile after PCT for gyno, and baby aspirin

My gf hates porn what's wrong with her

Do you guys watch porn with your gf

>>42022062

There are legit causes for low test other than "Muh balls dont work and guys on the internet said just hop on the juice"

I'm curious, to not just yourself but all the guys with low test, did any of you check if anything else was causing it temporarily/permanently?
Like other medical medical conditions?

Its just very surprising how many guys have low test...(incl myself)

I'm not against TRT or anything like that because i know how much it improves Quality of life, when thats the problem
But in some cases it can just mask the real problem (a shitty medical condition or something)

>>42022352
Yea

I know why my testies didn't work though

Second pin today, when do I get gf

Im going to blast test and tren until i die

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KAHUNA IS MANAGING A GYM
(weekend manager but whatever)

SECOND HALF 2017

1/2 YEAR OF KAHUNA

>>42022279
I used to

It wasnt anything too special

>>42022369
Third pin

>>42022449
Only way to live

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Monday night, day before July 4th, no work or classes

Who is getting normie with your DYEL friends?

I know I am ;)

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>pip in both quads on leg day
This is a feel I didn't know I'd enjoy.

Does pip diminish the more I use a muscle for injection?

If Test leaves permenant damage to your hormone production, why is it the 101 entry thing to use?

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last week of cycle
10 weeks 400mg test e a week
balls are still big
up 8kg
got about 25% stronger on all lifts
no sides

>how hard will recovery be?

40/40/20/20 nolva
12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 asin

just wanted to dip my toes into the water, next cycle is going to be for summer and much larger.

i know it should have been longer, or more gear, but i wanted to be off and on ready for summer

>>42022619
It doesnt, unless you have underlying physiological reasons itd happen anyway. Accutane does however permanently lower natty test production.

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Reminder that crusader still has to post his cuck diaries

>>42022474
Congrats bro, proud of you. Please don't fuck this up.

>>42022619
What are you reading knob jockey?

>>42022619
It's not, test is.

>>42022747
>Accutane does however permanently lower natty test production.
WHAT?
SOURCE?

>>42022802
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21103844
https://rxisk.org/accutane-30-years-of-trading-our-sex-lives-for-clear-skin/


theres others

>>42022802
>>42022852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotretinoin#Possible_permanent_effects
http://www.healthline.com/health/acne/accutane-side-effects#pregnancy-warning4

>>42022852
those comments on rxrisk lol
i never had any problems with boners on accutane or afterwards
if anything i get too many boners

>>42022919
>lowers natty production
>posts on /fraud/ hey i never had those problems those commentators are having lol

Hmm gee I wonder what the difference between you and them is, whatever could it be.

>>42022939
i saw this thread from page 0 (catalog a shit)
i'm natty

>>42022986
You're also a fucking shill.
Get out.

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Holy fuck why do I even bother trying to give people advice when they never want to listen and always have some "expert" advice that says otherwise. Oh is your expert 220 10% I didn't fucking think so.

had to donate blood today. Farewell monster pumps. See you again in a few months :,(

>>42023031
That's why it's better to just meme people. Say you do wiifit and white bread really isn't bad. Shit like that is more entertaining

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>>42022474
I believe in you.

I always had some allergies in life but I think frauding finally did me in on this area. I've had chronic urticaria since last fall and now with this summer I'm more allergic to pollen than ever. I don't think it coinsides with my fraud usage.

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6th week of first test e cycle. Have steroids cured my social anxiety? Have I been low test my whole fucking life?

>>42023398
yes

>>42023398
enjoy the crash when you pct lol!

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>>42023423
Jesus fucking Christ, I feel like my life is just starting at 26. I

've closed a month worth of sales in the last week and randomly asked out the qt receptionist without even planning it, it just fucking came out.

>>42023469
>PCT
>implying

>>42023398
>cycle
>>42023489
?

>>42023493
PCT in the grave bitch

>>42023520
No I dont want to lose my gains. Ill be preserved in formaldehyde.

>>42023520
do you know what the word cycle means

>>42023398
how bad was your anxiety?
how long did it take for your anxiety to go away?
what it like now?

>>42022279
90% of the woman hate porn. My gf secretly watched porn to improve her dick sucking skills, but she totally hated it. I can totally encourage it.

>becauuse muhh insecurity
Imagine you watch cuck bbc porn with your gf, and she's getting a fucking wet pussy from the bbc and not from you tiny dick anymore..

During sex she will only think about the bbc to get hers wet. oh.. i wish i were with the bbc now and not with you tiny dingle dong

>>42023819
Thats because you need to watch some good wholesome christian FFM home made porn, not big Jew porn industry porn.

>>42022718
don't be a fag b/c

>>42023819
My girl hates porn but craves my dick often.
Maybe its for the best, porn can really ruin your view on sex.

>>42020699
You stupid fucking moron... If you have LOW FUCKING TESTOSTERONE, YOU NEED TO BE ON IT FOREVER OR YOU WILL HAVE LOW TEST AGAIN. There is literally zero purpose to "cycle" TRT. Using 200mg of testosterone puts you at like 900-1200ng/dl. That is normal natty level.

>>42023824
>christian FFM home made porn
I would like to watch crusader jerking off his gf while she getting fucked by the bbc.

>>42024191
>My girl hates porn but craves my dick often.
I am not seeing the correlation.

I doubt that there are any girls that love that shit without have any form of some mental disability.

They don't like the idea you get horny from other woman with better tits and ass than her. That's how it works.

About to hop on 30mg dianabol for 4 weeks and 500mg test e for 12... Fucking scared and ultra excited at the same time. How are the dbol gains?

>>42024254
>How are the dbol gains?
W E T

>>42024297
Shiet man I know... I was thinking of eating a 1000 cal surplus and eliminating my rest day. Then when off the dbol just do a 250 cal surplus. What do you think?

>>42024338
idk dude, idk your current stats or anything.

I'd deffs wouldnt do a 1k surplus myself tho, you'll get fat.

>>42024383
196lbs
6'0
13%
295lb bench
400lb squat
480lb dead
I just want to get as big as possible, while not being fat.

>>42021095
>even my source agrees
Kek you retard

>>42024403
dbol will bloat you, just be careful of bp but otherwise have fun

>>42024224
Seek help

How do you guys afford it?
Test E alone would be $30+/week

I dont understand why I sometimes have insane levels of (probably) low blood sugar and lethargy when at work.

>be fine
>work lunch just have like 200 cals of high protein yogurt and 300 cals of protein drink (something that's commonly eaten)
>30 mins later
>insane sleepiness
>feel extremely weak
>sometimes sweat a lot and heart beats fast

I don't know why.

>hurr moar carbz

irrelevant, this time it actually happened now that im retaining a lot of water from all the carbs I've eaten at home.

>hurr moar salt

could be, but ive had so much salt recently and it happens regardless of my sodium

also it just disappears after 2 or so hours, but godamn does it hit hard.

>>42022541

I really like this picture. Mind if I save it?

>>42024403
>while not being fat.
1k surplus is too much for the amount of drugs then imho

>>42024478
At least i don't cry in front of a girl

only way to treat for this beta feel is to point a gun to your head and pul the trigger

>>42024480
Your body needs time to digest

>>42024479
no. unless you are in australia, you have a shit source.

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What all do I need for my first test cycle besides the actual test?

>>42024485
It's all yours, Lori.

>>42024521
ai and pct

needles, syringes, alcohol swabs

>>42024569
ty bb

>>42024581
np <3

>>42024383
>>42024297
yolo i've been away for months, have you posted any CB lately?

>>42024479
If you don't have $30 a week to spare you need to reevaluate your finances. It costs me anywhere between $50-100 a week on blast when you include ancillaries.

>>42024505
Please stop hurting me

>>42024744
>, have you posted any CB lately?
not on here no.

>>42024750
>$100 a week

The fuck are you running? 500mg test, 720mg Tren and 600mg Mast weekly with AI cost $150 bucks a month, how is your shit so expensive?

>>42024772
Australia

>>42024754
Pls post. I'm curious.

>>42024783
I'm so sorry.

>>42024783
the real land of the free

>>42024754
do it frank. i wanna see how thick/solid/tight you've gotten.

>>42024784
>>42024813

god, ok.
let me transfer some pics

>>42024796
>>42024797
The best country in the world isn't cheap.

I need to up my gains to get into the military.
What would you recommend for cycles that would not leave any long term effects?

>>42024828
are you showing pics?

>>42021546
You know I actually agree with you. So long as you stay away from jungle.asians you could very well have a pretty functional kid

>>42025040
good, fucking prison island shithole, all australians need to fucking die of cancer

>>42025254
Wish granted. Highest rates of skin cancer in the world

>>42025340
>Highest rates of skin cancer in the world
>The best country in the world

Its not the worst, but man its not even halfway to being the best

>>42025352
>>42025340
Aus law, prices and customs suck for steroids. Japan is good. Gonna be sad if I have to go back to Aus though.

>>42025040
do australians track there ancesters and boast what crimes the commited?
>my great great grandfather is stronger than yours, he killed 14hookers with a piano wire

>>42025395
Most arent descendants of the prisoner slaves used to build the colony but immigrated later.

For those that are, its sadly more boring than that

Just minor civil infractions that targeted skilled laborers and they faced like life in prison or go start a new life in the colony.

They needed people to go build it.

>>42024479
you inject 2.5g of test a week? mirin

>>42025129
no you fucking don't. untrained fatties get into the military.

I've never done roids, got no friends irl who do it.
Injecting freaks me out, I am afraid I will fuck it up.
What do

>>42022779
>>42022774
>>42022747
http://www.ergo-log.com/how-after-just-one-testosterone-injection-your-endogenous-testosterone-production-plummets.html
https://www.dovepress.com/effects-of-different-doses-of-testosterone-on-gonadotropins-25-hydroxy-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-SAR

>>42025597
We're talking permanently genius

>>42025597
>Test injections ceases your natural test production

Yes no shit genius. You said permanently. That is not permanent you dumb fucking nigger brain retard.

It is very rare that you destroy your endo system so badly that your body cannot produce its own test even after pct, hmg and hcg

>>42025604
>>42025628
By the way: six weeks after the injection of 500 mg testosterone-enanthate the subjects' own production of testosterone was still not fully restored.

>>42025628
it permanently decreases it to levels that are effectively zero. why are you so literal

>>42025632
Yeah no shit? They haven't done PCT. They're LH and FSH levels are fucked.

It takes months to restore natty test production without pct if at all.

>>42025640
>permanently
Nope.

You're a fucking idiot who knows nothing about steroid use.

>>42025686
>It takes months to restore natty test production without pct if at all.

False, this could be true but is highly dependand on the individual.
Some restore as quickly without pct as someone with, some even raise test.
The same goes for someone with pct, they could face permanent shutdown if very unlucky.

Both could happen to you, first cycle including Tren is not something the body favors.

just realized i accidently took too much dnp the last few days (only 500 so dont worry)
but that explains my non existent performance in the gym
at least now i only got 5 days left woohoo

Protein bars (at least the ones from ONE) taste so fucking good, how do people actually want to buy and eat normal candy bars when these exist?

>>42025352
actually its 2nd, well above halfway m8

and if you dont want total ethnic enrichment its #1

>>42025730
>permanent shutdown
no you fucking memeing ape

show me ONE case of this happening

>>42025806
well protein bars are between 2 and 5 times more expensive than the average candy bar.

>falling for the protein bar jew
and people make fun of the whey jew

>>42025806
probably habbit and price
>tfw local market makes 25g protein bar 160kcal for 90cents and tastes like heaven

>>42025895
not at vending machines

I still hold that rows are the niggers of all lifts.

Fuck rows so much

>>42025979
you're a nigger, you're father was abusive and walked out on you and you took it like a bitch.

>>42025988
Yeah but did I die?

>>42025979

barbell rows i agree, row machines aren't bad though. haven't done bb rows since going to a legit gym

>>42025995
No, you have to live as a pathetic nigger

>>42026003
Lat pulldowns are GOAT

>>42026011
You either really like rows or are a nigger

>>42026046
Y'know I wouldnt say I enjoy rows but I dont hate them. They're in the 'lets get this out the way' category.

I hate niggers though.

>>42026053

it's interesting. I hate BB rows but when I do them, I definitely go through the set a lot easier than other lifts and I tend to do more reps than I anticipate.

>>42025979
I don't understand that. I fucking love rows, what's your problem with them?

I dread deadlifts though.

>>42026109

I probably hate them because my lower back/core is too weak. Worst thing about BB rows for me is maintaining the correct form.

>>42024217
But if you stop and do a proper power pct and run hcg can't your natural test come back a little higher before it was low?

Most people have low test for a variety of reasons, I'd say if they tried to lose some weight, add in some healthier meals and get better sleep while controlling stress levels natural T can still function within a normal range

>>42024569
How do you get AI and PCT?

>>42026097
>>42026053
>>42026109
The thing I hate about them is the first 3-4 reps are babby tier easy, then about middway through they become impossible and I can never feel if they're working during the set.

I love deadlifts. I mostly enjoy the pain in my callouses the most.

>gf: you don't need to get any bigger. I think you're too big
>go to hers with a pump
>gf: You should keep your shirt off

REEEEEEEEEE STOP LYING TO ME

>>42026376
Post cuckdiary NOW

>>42026376
then show us a pic to show how big you really are.

COME ON LETS DO IT,

>muhh doxingg
I ALREADY SHOWED MY FUCKING FACE, ASS AND DICK and you're are afraid to show one fucking pics from your 11 inch noodle arm because you're afraid to be judged by some permavirgin wizards

>>42026500
At gfs. No laptop

>>42026519
Yes. Are you suprised?

>>42026549
Really surprises me that you're worried about such meaningless things in life.

Makes me think how you function in real life. If you're such pussy on the internet and in the real life(based on your cuck stories)then in what place do you act like a real man?

Why not make the full transition now? You already achieved 90% of the female characteristics. WHERE ARE YOU WAITING FOR??!, JUST DO IT

>>42026519
>MY FUCKING FACE, ASS AND DICK

Kek'd.
Why are you so angry MasT? (Not that you are wrong)

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>For the past 8 months Ive been training and taking 200mg testosterone every 3 days.

oh fuck me lol, he must be someone from /fraud/

To be fair he did break his back or something

>>42026225
>I mostly enjoy the pain in my callouses the most.

Oh boy can't wait for your blogpost about you tearing one and being in pain.

Also, thats a sign of a very weak grip.

>>42026646
oh and Ive plateaued from that now and need to take trest

>>42026635
I am not mad. I feel that he needs someone who can kick his ass for acting like a pussy. Like an older brother that always kicked my ass when i tried to act like a pussy.

He's too much of a mothers boy. We need him to get out of his comfort zone

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How safe is just taking testosterone indefinitely ?

>>42026688
What dose are we talking?

Overall pretty safe.

>>42026704
Idk. The standard dose ?enough to help with recovery

>>42026688
Where do you find such girls irl? I know it's shopped but still.

They're either skinny with no ass, or fat. There is never one with good similar fat distribution

>>42026688
As long as you get semi regular blood work to see if youre having any health issues, I remember some reddit guy finally got blood work after 2 years of bnc and his health was in pretty bad shape, could have been worse for him if he didnt catch it. You could be the unlucky one so stay on top of it.

I could a battery powered blood pressure monitor for like $20 as well.

I react terribly to tren, I pretty get every side-effect in the book, even on extremely low doses(350mg< per week). Ive tried high test low tren and low test high tren, daily injections, using short esters.\

Im thinking about using primo as an alternative. I have the income, and will have it tested before I go ahead and order in bulk. Does anyone have experience with using primo as a tren alternative, and what to stack it with?

>>42026740
I also saw a guy on there that blasted tren and test for almost a year and his bloods came out fine. and the pic results were just lmao.

Makes me think i should also check since i am now on for more than a year now.

>>42026788
You dont know if youll be the unlucky one though.

If your bp is normal then your cholesterol is probably (ymmv) fine too.

>>42026732
This is how I know you're from holland.

>>42026788
>not checking during and after blast.

Shame on you.
I remember the Tren guy.
Looked like he didn't even lift natty lmao.

>>42026757
DHB may be a better bet, or even DHB + mast.

Sdrol for short periods of time.

If youre not estro sensitive then trest may be good too.

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>>42026688

>>42026811
Ive heard DHB pip is unbearably bad. But it might just be brew content related.

>>42026799
BP is normal. I didn't knew there was a relation between those.

I only let my hemoglobin check, which was 10.7. Still in normal range.

What should you check then?


>>42026802
I know. I have to find out where to check. I only found this one; https://www.testjegezondheid.nl/kies-een-test/

I am not sure which test to pick? C?

>>42026837
Most likely. I planned on home brewing some but then I thought why do I even need it right now.

>>42026852
Yeah C sounds good, also nice that they'll check your thyroid.

>>42026852
Bp and cholesterol are often linked, one can be a sign or symptom of a problem with the other (but not always).

>>42026868
I only thought tren fucks with your thyroid?

>>42026852

test C and E are practically the same in terms of bio-availability and ester.

If you're brewing then test C is much more favorable as it doesn't clump up in its raw form. test E can be a nuisance to work with if you get gnarly clumps, but test C is always a nice dry powder.

>>42027096
are you a fucking retard?

>>42027096

Assuming you're pinning twice a week, they can be treated as practically the same.

>>42027145

that was 4 u

>>42027110

what's your argument m8. or are you just calling to call me retarded without giving a counter-argument

>>42027164

going to call* maybe i am retarded

>>42027164
read the post you answered you fucking mongoloid

masT isn't asking about test c vs test e

I pin cyp once a week. That's it. It has a half life of 10.5 days. If you're cruising, once a week is fine. been doing it the past 6 years

There are an infinite amount of natural BP supps out there. Hawthorne berry extract works wonders

>>42027218

oh shit he's talking about blood tests kek.

m-my point still stands

>>42027250
>It has a half life of 10.5 days
nah

old numbers based off a bogus study with flawed calculations ages ago that broscience websites keep reposting

>Testosterone Enanthate: 4.5 days
>Testosterone Cypionate: 5.0 days
>Behre HM, Nieschlag E. 1998 Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone esters. In: Nieschlag E, Behre HM, eds. Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution, ed 2. Berlin: Springer-Verlag; 329–348.

Residents of New York: How do you get your bloodwork done?

I'm trying to get bloodwork done prior to my first cycle to get baseline levels, but I just found out it's against state law to get private bloodwork done.

>>42027488
>hello doctor I just took a bunch of roidz for mutant gains please order bloodwork so I know what my hormone levels are, throw in a lipid panel while you're at it senpai

>>42027488
you go out of the state is the usual answer. I think that's what Kahuna had to do? might be thinking of someone else

>>42026646
He doesn't even look good for a natty.

>inject trt dose of test c
>about 1.5h later get signs of allergies
>no localized irritation at injection site

What is this shit, will this keep happening?

>>42026868
>kidney function test
>only test creatinine

Why do people do this? There has to be an actual useful way of measuring kidney function.

>>42026899
It does, but it's good to know where your thyroid is at, if low you could supplement for more gains.

How obvious would a 650mg test cycle be? I don't want my family knowing (don't live with em)

>>42027853
You'll be the new glands.
Glands lives in guys.

>>42028153
for normies you can probably get away with "new routine, new diet, more dedication"
non stupid gymbros or frauds themselfe know whats up

>>42028160

Anyone remember when it was that alex and glands stopped posting?

>>42026519
In his defense, been natty and severely injured for 3 years, am thoroughly unimpressive and currently unfit and my girl says shit like that

>>42028153
>I want to roid but I don't want it to be noticeable
sounds like what you want is to be natty

Cut,bulk,or recomp? I wanna get ottermode shredded asap then bulk

I'm 5'8 147lbs 13-14% bf.

>>42028421
>147

LMAO

>>42028160
pls no

I'm natty and have a question. How do you guys handle traveling? Do you pack your shit into your checked bag? Do you just not go anywhere? Only go places reached by car?

Also do you mail your gear straight to your house or do you guys all have PO boxes?

Why do barbell benching feel so much heavier than dumbells benching, at the same weight?

>>42028520
you mean the opposite, right?

>>42028538
Yes sorry no bully

>>42028545
Less stabilization involved

>>42028554
So how much barbell weight would 88 kg dumbell weight equal? I'm too lazy to try it myself, and I never use bar because I'm a lonely autist with no spotter

>>42028421
>>42028444
Then how much should I weight until I start roids?

Inb4 you can easily get to 180 natty like the faggots from steroid.com say.

At what, 20% bodyfat?

>>42028592
Depends on the person

Are you saying 88kg total or 88kg per hand? If you can press 88kg per hand for reps you're strong as fuck

>>42028620
How long have you been training? I would guess less than a year

>>42028648
No 44 kg per hand. Iirc when I used to barbell benched I was almost at 100 and I'm definitely stronger now. I should find me a spotter and find out.

>>42028248
>and currently unfit and my girl says shit like that
You know that time when you were younger and you mother said you are beautiful just the way you are, but you are in fact the most hideous fuck on EARTH.

Yes, that's because she don't wanna make you feel bad. It's not an independent party. The same approach is used by your gf. IT ARE LIES to make you feel better about yourself.

the only true way to find about the real truth is making them drunk, cheat on them and fucking making them feel bad.

>>42028807
>the only true way to find about the real truth is making them drunk, cheat on them and fucking making them feel bad.
In4 mast got his mom drunk and cheated on her

>>42028657
I started training in 2012, got up to 160 12% natty . Took some test in 2015 and got up to 170 10%. Stopped lifting last year and started drinking and partying. Now I want to come back and juice again.

>>42028620
How tall are you?

Getting to 180 should be pretty feeucking easy natty unless you're like 5'3

>>42028857
He said he's 5'8 you faggit

>>42028868
I don't have time to read things

180 at 5'8 after like 5 years is scary not a lot.

You need to eat boii

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>>42028882

I'm getting back on after over a year off. I'm so psyched.

>>42025585
I started doing allergy shots to get more comfortable with needles.
I've had horror stories with nurses and blood draws, so my anxiety was thru the roof.
Now, after 6 months of 3x shots weekly I am pretty comfortable to pin myself IM or SubQ. still can't do IV lol

Does anyone have experience with EPO? I need to get faster on long distance runs and I've heard EPO does that pretty well.

>>42024569
is alcohol actually necessary? I read from USH it's pointless or even counterproductive if your needles are already sterilized to prep and clean the skin

>>42029197
Prepping the skin is done in order to prevent bacteria on the surface of the skin from getting into your blood. Regardless of if the needle is clean you can get a staph infection if you don't use alcohol swabs

Guys need some help, nipples keep being itchy from Deca.
Need RU486, but no source has it. Any trade name I should aim for or alter alternatives?
No tissue yet.

>>42028826
No, she's fat and has no ass.

maybe in her younger years

>>42029550
ai doesn't help?

This worries me about deca, that other kind of gyno you need caber for. I have checked our source, but they don't have it.

>>42029550
Why don't you just use a normal ai

>>42029571
Yeah no dice with our source, neither do other sources have it.
Adding winny to my stack, that seems to help. Dropping dbol, you'll be missed.

I hope its the dbol honestly, never had this issue before (I've run the same stack minus deca before)

>>42029580
>>42029604
Upping my Nolva seems to be the best bet. Might up the adex for a few days to see of it helps.

>>42029160

I recently had a nurse literally digging with a blood drawing needle to find a very prominent vein. I'm talking physically moving the insert for about 30-40 seconds before I told her to just use the other arm.

it was so uncomfortable I can't even begin to explain the feeling of a needle scraping through or on the outside of your vein

>>42029624
>>42029604
lmao you use nolva as an ai? Up the fucking AI.

Gyno is no joke. I managed to reverse it with the letro protocol. DONT LET IT GROW before it get permanent and you need to get surgery that cost 3k

>>42029571
You can get caber from most pharmacies in europe

It's expensive though

>>42029676
I got permanent eye damage from letro. LETRO IS NO JOKE

>>42029678
I never had to look for it yet, but probably will if i use deca. I don't want them milking titties.

>>42029699
Prolactin is horrible.

I dislike deca. Too much hassle. You never know if it's high/low estrogen or high/low prolactin causing a lot of side effects.

Suddenly you are yoyo-ing all of them all over the place.

Hello broken dick, sex drive, lethargy, skin, etc

>>42029676
>Might up the adex for a few days to see of it helps.
You missed something.

>Gyno is no joke.
I've had to reverse twice, flat as fuck now, hoping to keeping it that way.

I told my girlfriend, she wanted to take a look
>"shave your nipples"
>itch gone

Huh I might be retarted after all.

>>42029718
Ok nvm then no deca.

Then it will be test again

>>42029753
>>42029753
You're getting the paranoid signs. Before you know it, you end up reading your gf messages and choke her in her sleep. I have been there also

>Huh I might be retarted after all.
We are in the same boat

>>42029806
>Before you know it, you end up reading your gf messages and choke her in her sleep.

Been there minus choking, did a complete 180 on that one.
Fun fact: this was before roids.

>>42026887
Source? I was prehypertensive as a natty, but CHOL was perfect

>>42029806
>No deca
Fucking pussy

You want big muscle? You pin test and deca, and you eat.

You're in dutchland. No way you can't find pharma meds like caber or prami. Just get bloods 8-10 weeks into blast or if symptoms come up.

GROW GROW GROW

>>42029996
I have to admit, Deca is AMAZING for bulking.
Beats Tren for the sheer comfiness it brings.

>>42028497
Pls anyone

I'm trying to decide if I'm ready for gear. I'm definitely ready by physical standards, my age, and how long I've been training but I want to figure out all the other stuff

>>42030021
You're probably not ready if you need confirmation on a japanese nerd forum

>>42030041
Confirmation? Wut?

I'm asking highly specific questions that will help guide me. I'm not asking if you guys think I'm ready for gear, did you even read my other post

>>42030021
>>42028497

If you're not going by plane, store shit in a tin or box. Know those tin pencil cases that hold alot of colors? Can store a syringe.

For plane, plan ahead, if you won't be gone for longer then a week or so pre-pin on a longer ester. As for pills, repack into a vitamin bottle that has a matching size.

Gear goes straight to my house.

>>42030021
you don't travel cross country. if you're traveling to another state by plane, mail your shit to your new address. do not bring steroids on a plane. you will get caught and get fucked.

mail straight to your house because you order domestically and thus don't have to deal with any kind of customs

>>42030085
Thanks m8

>>42030099
Have to add, if you travel alot hopping on gear might not be for you.

>>42030112
That's kind of what I figured. Thanks for the reply

i ran out of my ai, can i take clomid for the rest of my cycle?

>>42030204
no.

>>42030204
Not really. Nolva potentially because of the metabolites working as a weak ai, but clomid not to my knowledge. Plus clomid for weeks on end even before pct sounds shit

How much tren should i start with?

>>42028497
bump. curious what you guys have to say about this

>>42030264
you already got your answers

go away

>>42028497
I travel every other week for work and most recently just pinned before I got in the cab for the airport. Don't pack syringes and liquid steroids, you'll get caught.

Pills are fine, I travel with a giant bag full of vitamins already so I just throw them in there.

>>42030410
I've flown multiple times with gear in the US. And I'm mil so they check our shit carefully.

(You)

>>42030445
I travel internationally and have to go through a second screening at customs so don't chance it.

Im currently cutting down to ~10%bf with 200mg test and 200mg tren ew and am trying to decide my next 24 week blast for January.

Currently im thinking this lean bulk into recomp;
Week 1-4 20mg Sdrol ed
Week 1-16 400mg Test e ew
Week 1-16 400mg Deca ew
Week 1-16 200mg Tren E ew
Week 16-24 200mg Test E ew
Week 16-24 200mg Deca ew
Week 16-24 450mg Tren E ew
Week 1-24 400mg Mast ew

I want to be huge lads
Will ramping up test from 500mg to 1 gram over the course of 12 weeks and then sitting on that dosage for 8 more weeks while eating like Dave Tate allow me to do this?
How retarded is going 4 weeks on of anadrol, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on of dbol, 5 weeks off and 4 more weeks of anadrol btw?
I really don't care if I get fat, I can lose bf% fairly easily I just want to become a huge strong bloated piece of shit.

>>42030485
I feel like you would get better results by just picking one, bulking or cutting.

Like

1-16
Test E 500mg
Deca 500mg

Bulk

16-24
Test E 150-200mg
Tren E/A 600/500mg
Mast P 400-700mg

Cut

But that's just me

>>42029699
Im currently blasting 2.5mg of letro ed to get rid of gyno. Should I be scared?

>>42030606
You have the right idea but I wouldn't eat like a fatass. Do the Stan Efferding/Flex Wheeler diet, where you progressively overload your ability to digest red meat and carbs.

More test is better for getting huge, yeah. Once you can't handle sides, that's when you add in a bunch of nandrolone and boldenone.

4 weeks on 4 weeks off is a pretty typical orals protocol

The leaner you start the more anabolic it is, btw

>>42030628
I know its a lot of wasted gear but I like the alpha feeling from tren so running it low is always a must and Mast just improves my quality of life.I am also running low dose deca for the joints.

>>42028807
I dunno, she still wants to fuck me on the reg, but I know for a fact "don't get any bigger" and "huge muscles look weird" is a lie

>>42030691
Well you asked for opinions.

It doesn't look like an awful blast just looks like you're zigzagging about a bit. As long as you're happy with the results go ahead why not.

>>42030606
>I just want to become a huge strong bloated piece of shit
does powerlifting general still exis

>>42030871
PLG aside from one or two posters is natty though

>>42028225
I repressed Alex. Glands was funny sometimes.

>>42031019
Alex fucking sucked, but Glands wasn't that bad.

>>42031091
he was pretty bad. I found his original glands posts hilarious, his pics and initial stories always made me cry laughing

but then he started posting more and more and all he did was be extremely negative about everything, shitting on people constantly while hiding his own physique behind his "but I'm rich and I don't wanna get doxed" bs. crusader hides with the same reason, but at least 90% of his posts aren't him making fun of other people (sometimes with actually really decent physiques)

that and his shitposting together with alex. ugh.

>>42031183
please don't say his name.

He'll appear.

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>>42031202
i like to believe he talked shit to an old gear head in his gym like he talked to us and gear head barbell speard him

>>42031232
like a thunder bolt from Odin himself.

>>42029667
holy shit that just makes me cringe

new thread
>>42031459
>>42031459
>>42031459

>>42030310
no u