/fraud/

>>41978095
First for lolis

>dude your package has tape on it saying it was opened by customs, what the hell did you order?
>>prescription medication
>oh, no worries than man

I love the naivety of natties

Give me ONE REASON to wait until 1/2/3/4 lifts before doing a cycle. I've been lifting for 5 years just with shit diet due to grad school and working at the same time.

>>41978238
Do what you want to do fucking fag

>>41978260
You have a very pointed tone right now.

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>>41978095
>posting a link to reddit

>>41978330
I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

>>41978238
Tendons.

>>41978238
>5 years
>not even at 1/2/3/4
well that's one reason, you don't know how to lift

>>41978355
>literally a reddit image filename

Adding deca and EQ tomorrow. 3cc looks like a lot of fucking oil wew lad.

>>41978238
>shit diet due to grad school and working at the same time.

There are three reasons. I've tried that shit natty (full-time work, full-time student, full-time lifting) and nope. Stretched too thin, performance dropped in all three areas, had no social life, was only getting 5-6 hours of sleep a night. Fuck that.

But if something has changed and you really, truly know what you're doing as far as diet and routine, go for it. Just don't go too heavy too fast and destroy your DYEL joints

>>41978374
reddit surpassed this site years ago. cant even discuss sources on this cuck shed shithole of a website

"Most controversial site on the internet" my ass

>>41978454
>But if something has changed and you really, truly know what you're doing as far as diet and routine, go for it. Just don't go too heavy too fast and destroy your DYEL joints

Yeah I'm graduating so soon I'll have a normal schedule and income. Thanks for the answer

>>41978525
who are you quoting

>>41978525
It's honestly better this way. Stops this place from becoming filled with shills trying to sell newfriends snake oil.

>>41978525
Plus the wiki is pretty good besides the awful layout.

But to be fair, no source talk on the main roids board there either. And you can't even mention other sites that allow source talk. Keeping that on a separate board isn't protecting anybody from anything lol. reminds me of people on those early 00s drug forums saying "SWIM smoked crack yesterday."

>>41978598
Mods prune threads with source talk and for reason people here act like these threads are all they have, so they play ball.

>>41978598
of course it is. it's against the US laws so it's against the rules of the website.

if r/steroids gets closed because a fuss is raised by the normies over illegal content, everything on r/steroids is lost forever. having a containment board that is only useful for source talk solves this problem.

Tfw feeding my gf lots of milk and then she farts smelly ones in my slut face

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>>41978454
>tfw full time grad, mandatory OT at work, and working out 15 hours a week

Just gotta decide what you really want
That and im l i t e r a l l y a God

>>41978838
Jerry you're a well put together stable man with the answer to all lifes problems. I've kinda, a little bit, been accused of sexual assault by some ho bag. What do now?

>>41978874
Lawyer up
And pct to be ready for jail

Thats why I dont talk to girls

>>41978878
lulz
nah there's no cops involved as they would laugh at her because I DID NOTHING WRONG JUDGE
like really though, she's just a histrionic nutcase.

>Thats why I dont talk to girls
I've learnt my lesson. No more girls. Until I fly to the statesto see that one grill, but she's different

>>41978874
I know you, you did it though

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Well that was annoying. Quad randomly twitched while I was 1.5" in with a 3.7ml shot. Didn't even hit a nerve, just a spasm I guess.

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>>41978915
You shut your damn mouth anon.
I'm a fucking gentleman

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>my cruise is done
>5'8 173 lbs
>feel like a DYEL imp clown loser
>wanna be BIG BIG BIG like my wow characters
>now taking 3ccs of test 3x a week and 60mg sdrol for a while now

mates this is ridic, im eating way over 1000+ cals over maintenance and there's no real bloat or fat gain as I always check myself in the mirror before a shower and I feel up my stomachs/lowerback and face.

I do notice I seem to sleep a bit more though and my eyes are kinda tired, but i dont feel any liver problems and im not turning into a simpson.

Also despite me being fuller and not gaining fat at 1000+ cals I do not feel stronger (or maybe because I do feeder work outs).

How can something so ridiculously anabolic and muscle building make you feel tired and shitty anyway?

>>41979221
Lethargy is your liver telling you to knock it off

>>41979221
>How can something so ridiculously anabolic and muscle building make you feel tired and shitty anyway?
the lethargy actually comes from your liver being shit on.

I really really doubt your liver is fine on 60mg sdrol/day unless it's bunk

>>41979242
>>41979238

until it hurts to piss or I have a bit of jaundice I ain't fuckin stoppin brah!!

any other VISIBLE warning signs outside of feeling tired?

>>41978897
Oh
Then beat her, beat her hard

Can steroids give you Chad eyes and get rid of a baby face?

>>41979335
no, you have shit genetics and there is no hope for you

>work at summer camp
> 6 year old kid (go away jerry)
> running around with glue in each hand
> starts shoulder pressing them
> "I want to big and strong!"
>"Is this what you do anon?"
>y-yea

making it

is low test a millennials-era problem?

I am starting to think that those born in tougher times (e.g. war) will have better role models towards alpha behavior

and the ones being left by overworked or divorced dads are just plain fucked

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>>41979501
Pics

ay lads, any reading on DNP?

I remember we had a /dnp/ general awhile back

>>41979839
dnp pastebin, r/dnp

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>>41979894
Thanks man

>>41979522
Don't send your kid to public school or let them use social media. Problem solved.

>>41979620
hey bebe

>>41979924
for y/our kids yeah. but what about the people who got memed?

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>>41978928
maybe its trying to communicate with you

How much fat are you gonna gain "carbing up" after coming off DNP? Don't wanna get fat back after all that cutting but I don't want to be flat anymore either

>>41978928
My glutes have done that as well.

I hate quads for the reason of hitting a nerve and imaginening crooking or breaking the needle inside my leg.
So I pull out when it gets twitchy.

>>41980327
why would you "carb up" if you go back to ur normal diet after dnp you'll be same as u were before dnp

ded thread

>>41980342
kill yourself

what a shithole this place has become, fucking retards wtf?

>>41980548
>what a shithole this place has become
true

>>41980557
im not even talking about "muh old trips"

it's like there are more natty 15 year old kids here saying such stupid shit like that, than people on gear, wtf?

>>41980567
I know.
People are ignorant and lazy.

but ya
>>41980327
You should gain 0 to litle fat at all if you do your reefed the correct way.

>>41978838
Silly tomato, you're not a god.

>>41980579
can you define correct way?

lyle says to do a intense glycogen depletion workout, then eat 8g/lb of bodyweight in carbs.

im on test tren and superdrol also now.

does that sound ok?

>>41980670
>lyle says to do a intense glycogen depletion workout, then eat 8g/lb of bodyweight in carbs.

What I was referring to ya.

just make sure to keep dietry fat low and you'll be fine.

>do a intense glycogen depletion workout
youre already depleted af from the dnp

>>41980579
>People are ignorant and lazy.
The Irony

any new pics yet?

>>41980722
I am at my work pc.

>tfw probably going to have to do a masters to get where I want

Fuck this gay earth

On positive side
>going to start sdrol and gym on monday
>start up tren again
>shoulder is g2g
>gf ordered a remote control vibrator to put in her panties for when we're out

i have unironically and diagnosed low T

i'm scheduled to see a new urologist next week and going to try and finally get approval to get on T.

what's the best method for getting it and what level do they usually bring you to?

I'm coming off my first blast which got extended a bit longer that expected because I kept throwing shit in because everything was going smoothly. I did like a 4 week kick start 50mg ed adrol, 16week test e 500mg, last 8weeks were 75mg ed var with the last 4 weeks of that 20mg ed sdrol. I then dropped down to 200mg test e/200mg tren e to recomp for 10 weeks.

So now for my next blast I'm thinking of keeping it quite simple:
Either sdrol or m1t kick start.
20weeks test e 300mg
20 weeks tren E 450mg
16 nadorolone C 200mg
Var or whinny finisher.

Anything I should change?

>>41980897
What does ed mean? Every day?

>>41980726
fucking excuse

>>41980777
masters means shit, nowadays you need phd to survive.

fucking middle class

is winny as bad for hairline as people say ? I have male pattern baldness thats why im asking but tren test and dbol left my hairline pretty much the same

I checked the reddit post but only saw reference to it under why you shouldn't use it under the age of 21:

I'm natty and potentially have polycystic kidneys. If I have them, its bad enough that I lift anyway. My question is how much extra "pressure" does this shit put on your kidneys?

I'm not planning on hopping on board any time soon, but it is something I am considering, and the first thing I need to address is if its dangerous or not for me to use with already sub par kidney performance.

>>41980777
>got bachelors in history

>>>>history

>5 years later i'm a test consultant at a pension company

Worked out well for me but I got super fucking lucky.

>>41979238
I'm starting to think that a lot of lethargy sides aren't liver, some other mechanism of the drug. Maybe a more direct side. Remember, growth needs rest too.

Just seems odd how ubiquitous the sdrol lethargy is, but haven't heard much of other orals doing the same.

First tren cycle and the only noticable side is fucked cardio. A set on a compound lift winds me and i can only manage steady state cardio. Cant imagine crusing on it like some people do. Definately not a qol drug

>>41980897
Higher test. Remove tren, save it for post blast cut/recomp.

Don't people get caught by Johnny Law for buying gear online? Or does nobody give a fuck

>>41978146
what happens after customs open it?
don't they come after you?

>>41978454
so its okay to roid as a newbie so long as you keep progression limited? like 2.5kg-5kg a week or something.

>>41981491
The resources required to track down some loser buying 1k of gear isnt worth it. They target sources.

If I inject test right before bed, I have dreams where people ask me if I am gay?

>>41981050
I want to do medicine but my GPA for my bachelors wasn't high enough because I had the attitude of lol didn't study in school and got top in half my classes anyway, but medicine is slightly more competitive apparently. So the easiest way is do a masters rather than another 4 year bachelors shite.

how harsh do you reckon the diminishing returns is for long training assuming 3g+ of gear and adequate nutrition/rest ?

no hgh or insulin and a bit above average genetics.

Im guessing a 5 day split with proper intensity and volume (aka no 5 minute rests on the phone faggot) for 45 minutes is prolly 80% as good as one at 80 minutes where you're pretty much limping.

>>41979273

Very dark urine, yellowing of skin/eyes, elevated liver enzymes from the bloods you should be doing.

Take TUDCA or NAC.

>>41981802
Holy shit you're alive

>>41981654
but you don't need bachelor for master? Over here you first need to do bachelor before you can do master

Why not study psychology/psychiatry and find out why you're acting like such a pussy.

>>41981813
this is the same sentence i think of when i see you posting

>>41981433
>Just seems odd how ubiquitous the sdrol lethargy is, but haven't heard much of other orals doing the same.
pretty much every other heavily liver toxic oral also does it... dbol does it for me and my cuck liver when I don't use tudca

>>41981813

I don't post much given the lack of interesting conversation. Still around intermittently.

>>41981902
I don't get what the fuck you're saying. I already have a bachelors and I would complete a masters to satisfy GPA because any masters level qualification I belive is given a 7 (with the top grade being 7 and a 4 is a pass) requirements for medicine rather than do another bachelors which would take longer.

I know exactly why I'm a pussy bitch though. Why waste 30k on a basic girl degree to figure that?

>>41981932
Any current pics or stacks you'd like to share?

>>41981938
>waste 30k
Shit thats so cheap

>>41981965
It's also government loaned, interest pegged to inflation and you have a 48k earnings threshold before you have to make payments.

Dude i love socialist australia

>>41981938
You have to understand that I am slow-witted.

You have to pay 30k for a study, fucking shit country you live.

that kinda masters cost like 2k over here on a yearly basis. If your parents can't afford it, you get discount from government money

>>41981981
Read >>41981979
Government loan.

We're not full commie yet

>>41981981
>that kinda masters cost like 2k
What the fuck
Thats like less than half per class

>>41982018
http://www.studyinholland.co.uk/tuition_fees.html

Jerry, just grow a beard and convert to islam be poor and have no ambition. Then you will be allowed to live over here and live like a god. You will get free money, free home, free food and free study. I have heard that Sweden is even better.

>>41981996
>has a degree
>still unmarried no kid and makes no money

Hahahaha

>>41982089
>umarried, no kids and makes no money

One of those is untrue

>>41982089
Marriage is for faggots, i hope it's allowed in your country.

>>41982078
Ive thought about it
Everything for free plus I could get away with all the loli rape I want

Lifes not fair, bros

>>41982127
Tfw try to get information of info out of japan ministry of health on how much tren, dhb, sdrol, etc powder I can import, they just say 1 month, then I ask how much that specifically is and its "instructed dosage x 30 days".

Dont want to have to find out the long way exactly how much that is (even though it has no prescription.

Already did that for anadrol when I imported it and they told me its 1500mg, only get specific when customs holds something it seems.

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>>41982192

>>41982115
you're trying to pretend you make money?

you shitpost here during all your waking hours, australia time. you'd go out with either (ex)gf or redhead girl all the time during the day.

there's no way you aren't a NEET actually

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Morning negroes, third injection is today. Still gotta think of a creative way to smuggle sterons on family vacation but I think putting it in a backpack and never leaving it out could work fine. Other than that I'm feeling pretty good, even though I know it's probably placebo effect and not actually the test.

>>41980916
Yes
>>41980857
>getting it
Be low enough test to get it prescribed, or get it from a source like we do
>what level do they usually bring you to?
Depends on where you are and what levels you want to be in.
>>41980777
D E G E N E R A T E
>>41980567
Summer

>>41982214
My job allows me the time to shitpost a lot. Boss doesn't give a shit what I do with or in between clients since I'm the only one who actually gets good client feedback and still makes money.

Plus redhead girl is literally the only friend I have and I see her once or twice a week. I come here to substitute social interaction.

>>41980857
tell him you got the typical low test sides, tell him you are aware of the risks of trt, tell him you accept the risks of trt, tell him you want trt, tell him to fuck off with those bullshit creams (dont want to contaminate your gf/kids etc), tell him you want inject.

>>41981902
went to a psychology class once for my "free to choose mandatory ects pints" you have no fucking ideas how many broken / crazy / psycho girls study that shit so they can brain acrobat themselfs out of being crazy as fuck.
good fucks but get the hell out of there before they snap.

>>41981979
socialists austria -> you dont pay for university
they actually give you money if you want to educate yourself.

>>41982231
You could attempt to smuggle the vials in fish oil container complete with fish oil caps to cover them. Then smuggle the pins and syringes in a condom box or some gay shit.

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>>41982271
>in a condom box
>Implying I ever get laid
>implying I could even fool my family into thinking I get laid

You give me too much credit.

>>41982297
You could smuggle them in a water bottle filled with water. Will be a pain in the ass to fish them out given you're going to have to either pour the contents out or drink it all each time.

>>41982231
>Depends on where you are
oh no, just a couple days after I praised you for somewhat knowing what you were talking about now

>>41982270
applied Psychology is crap. You have to follow psychiatry to be on my level.

>>41982192
It's crazy how much the government is fucking you. just raw

>>41982206
I agree

>>41982310
>Thinking I've learned enough to be a reliable source of information
I mean taking it will shut down your natural test production so I guess where you start doesn't really matter, does it? Or am I missing something else

>>41982308
These are all actually decent ideas. And it'd give me an excuse to actually stay hydrated, so +1 to that one as well.

>>41982331
>dutch
>it's crazy how much the government is fucking you

mmm how about those turks clog boy?

why does good food have to taste like shit?

>>41982347
Stop making food which tastes like shit?

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>>41982347
lern 2 cook, my boi.

>>41982347
stop boiling your chicken with your rice.

get a grill, put on some spices drop some into your rice while cooking.

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BIMBO c'mon man don't remove me from snapchat. I know I'm insecure and have problems. It's my first week at counseling, I couldn't just handle everything you were saying it was too much all at once it got to me. C'mon man I listened to all your probs no matter how degenerate or how much I didn't agree with it. C'mon dude your friendship is important to me. Im trying over here.

>>41982706
Look at this post, pretend you didnt write it then ask yourself would you unblock some needy asshole like this?

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>peak weak of cycle
>seend out shirtless, pump picture to all the girls who have flirted with me over last couple weeks
>all of them opened, no replies
>j-just got to blast harder next time, right guys?

>>41982727
Yes. I would

>>41982738
Then you're an even bigger asshole than I first thought.

Get a fucking grip of yourself and stop polluting other peoples lives with yours horseshit

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>>41982752

>>41982706
>tfw you didn't know that people on this board communicate in any way outside of this board

Also yeah this is pretty gay and clingy, like wtf dude. I get that he's your friend but if he doesn't wanna talk to you then so be it.

>>41982768
Nah it's cool I get it. I Just don't care if I look like a fool for a bit of honesty and humility. His choice at the end of it.

>resting in bed with gf watching her text friends
>one of her friends jokingly calls her babe
>Tell her to tell him if he ever calls her babe again I'll rip his throat out
>The guy is 5'2" and weighs less than 100lbs
>gf tells him
>he responds "I don't want him to be mad at me, please tell him I'm sorry"

I love being jealous

>>41982789
you beat the shit out of your dad yet or you still a do nothing pussy?

>>41982821
I'm not big enough. I want to put the fear of God in him.

>>41982837
As I thought, excuses.

KK faggot.

>>41982845
He could 100% beat the shit out of me still.

He's a big guy.

>>41982861
you're a prolapses uterus with legs.

>>41982837
>>41982845
1 like = 1 prayer with 100 prayers we surely can overcome anything he throws at us, just beliefffffffffffffffffffffffff

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>>41982779
Well I mean at least you get that it sounds weird, sorry about Bimbo tho
>>41982789
Jealousy is literally the worst feeling ever what the hell

Also forgot to post this. Haven't seen this girl in at least a month and she texts me out of the blue yesterday saying we should hang out. She has a bf but also has a long history of cheating on them, and I've definitely caught her miring before (even though I'm no that big or impressive).

Should I smash or nah?

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>>41982728

>>41982837
you are such a stupid faggot. you're probably even more dyel than that triangle TRT homo

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>get on OKC
>set up hookup for Monday
>check this morning
>her account is deactivated

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>>41982728
>>seend out shirtless, pump picture

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>>41982728
>pic related, it's me

>>41983084
if (bf = your friend) no
else yes
it aint cheating if you are not the one in a relationship

there is this thicc fit perfect ass yoga pants wearing squatting girl in my gym, and she is always there when i go... i always fuck my gf before going but still get a semi when i see those ass godess :/ feels bad

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>>41983199
I've met him before (he came to the party after a play we were both in) and he seemed alright enough, but I wouldn't consider him my friend.

I mean it's not my fault if she just happens to cheat on him, I just happen to be the one who benefits from it. At least that's how I'm rationalizing it.

>tfw your southern Christian morals and autism are getting in the way of getting laid

>>41983084
>>41983084
Jealousy is a fucking horrible feeling but I love the feeling of power and authority you get from exercising a will to stop it and people listen to you. I'm an extremely jealous person.

Also, I'm not going to comment whether or not you should smash or not, but I'm impressed by your alpha texting.

>>41983221
I genuinely dislike you and your character.

>>41983114
Probably.

>>41983235
Mom???

>>41983259
No just a man in a relationship.

>>41983263
...MOM???

>>41983277
God is disappointed in you. And you're and embarrassment and a bad example for Christians everywhere. I hope you find love and happiness only to have the woman of your dreams cheat.

>>41983221
best friend of mine fucked a girl for almost a year before he found out she had a bf he even knew him from school, still fucked her though.
her bf knew everything and gave him just a "deadly look"
after about another year both of them helped him move, a day later he fucked her on the bed her bf helped put together.

funniest shit ever

>>41983301
I might be a cuck but holy fucking Mother Mary. The bf should unironically kill himself.

>>41983229
he is poor not retarded, you probably can learn a few thing from our poor cunt
>>41983263
if she comes on to him its not his job to stop it, its the bfs job to not letting it get so far in the first place (and the girls but they are retarded anyway)

>>41983325
I have a gf who I get to choke the life out of and manhandle. I'm pretty content.

>>41983325
If he were a decent human being hed tell the bf and make the girl feel like a whore. I have and I would if that happened to me again. But he's just amother mindless slave to pussy making everything worse.

>muh Christianity tho

Right.

>>41983229
Not really alpha texting, I was in the middle of a set and she wouldn't quit buzzing me. I thought it sounds autistic af but thanks.

>>41983287
> I hope you find love and happiness only to have the woman of your dreams cheat.
Too late my man, it's already happened. That's why I've started giving less of a shit about situations like this. I cared about her, treated her right, all that jazz, and she still cheated on me. So was it my fault, or the fault of my ex-gf?
>you're an embarrassment
Seriously mom, we're gonna have to have a talk when we get home, you can't just embarrass me in front of my friends like this.

>>41983301
Holy shit that's cold.

>>41983325
>he is poor not retarded
I mean I'm both but thanks anyway
Also I'd argue it's the bf's job in the first place not to get such a shit tier amoral gf. I'm simply benefiting from it.

>>41983355
I never claimed to be a good Christian, just that the morality instilled in me by living in a southern Christian household makes me hesitant to do this. Also I've never implied I was a decent human being. Also also this girl has no morals and is irredeemable anyway so making her "feel like a whore" won't do anything.
>Preaching morality in a steroids thread on a no-homo fitness board
Get the fuck out of here man, reddit.com is that-a-way.

Fellas, I have 2 questions for you

>do you regret taking steroids?
>how did they affect your life(hoes, social life,people, mental aspect, etc)

pls respond

>>41983403
>do you regret taking steroids
Yeah they didn't even make my peepee bigger what the heck
>how did they effect your life
killed my chances of dating due to having a gangrenous peepee

>>41983391
Christians are such worthless retarded pieces of crap.
>I'm not a good Christian
Fucking retard.
Im not a good person either but I try. But hey you can just pray for forgiveness and God will forgive you right. Better keep being a pos then woohoo.
Mongoloid reasoning. Your faith is a joke just like the people that follow it.

>>41983437
reddit.com/r/atheism

>>41983403
No.

Didn't change really anything.

>>41983444
Nice argument.

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>>41983467

>>41983403
>do you regret taking steroids?
no, wish i did it sooner than 27
>how did they affect your life(hoes, social life,people, mental aspect, etc)
got dead balls and low test, so it affected me tremendously. was on the edge of killing myself due to depression. poof 250test made it go away.
still busy trying to fix my live and catch up on lost opportunities

if you dont have legit low test you probably wont notice anything though

anon's...

what are best ways to drop water

ate junk food yesterday and i feel bloated and BP is super high, giving me anxiety

dont eat any salt today? zero carb? any natural supplements i can take that will help?

i dont have any AI or anything on hand because i was only taking a TRT dose, but I didnt take into account the test i have being stronger than the last vial!!!

>>41983565
>BP super high

what is your actual dose? What is your bp?

>>41982728
>>peak weak of cycle
... the last week?

>>41982789
>letting your gf have male friends


top cuck

>>41980567
I'm always watching

>>41982706
>tfw still Snapchat buddies with bimbo

LMAO FUCK YOU

>>41983715
This.

Rate my bulking diet lads

>Breakfast
200g oats
50g Peanut Butter
6 eggs scrambled in butter
Glass of whole milk

>Mid-Morning
Banana
Glass of whole milk

>Lunch
250g Chicken
2 Sweet Potatoes
240g Broccoli
Glass of whole milk

>Mid-Afternoon
Banana
Glass of whole milk

>Dinner
250g Chicken
150g Brown Rice
250g Mixed Veg
Glass of whole milk

>Before bed
Tuna
Whole milk


Totals around 4500kcals 350g protein

>>41984344
>falling for the clean eating meme

>>41984344
Less protein more carbs

>>41984407
It's already around 550g carbs

130g fats which I thought might be a bit high though

Only on test (600mg/week) so didn't want carbs too high because water retention

>>41984394
But muh micronutrients..

>>41984344
>Clean eating

Fucking disgusting.

Recommend using something other than fucking fish right before you go to bed because your breath is going to fucking wake the dead.

>>41984493
>>41984394
After 3 years of natty cutting and bulking I really don't mind clean food at all

The volume is what's appealing to me. I miss eating shitloads of food without becoming a fat piece of shit

>>41984493
>>41984394
>>41984519
Clean food is also cheap as fuck

>Crusaders gf texts other males right in front of him

Too cucked. She's keeping orbiters around in case she gets bored. Crusader isn't man enough to put his foot down and they're laughing behind his back.

>>41984751
She does have to interact with other people in her studies. I can't stop that.

>>41984779
Is that what she tells you

>>41984779
Hey man Jesus said to keep your hoe in line

>>41982231
Current level is in the 200-270 range. No idea what my baseline is, but is really low for my age.

>>41982270
So cream is no good?

>>41984789
Nigger the text is literally in a group assignment chat group.

>>41984796
Everything aside from injections is shit. Also if you get cream on your gf she grow a dick and chest hair. You DO have a gf right?

>>41984811
>letting your gf work or go to college where she's around males 24/7

Women belong at home tending to domestic needs. College is simply a place young girls get brainwashed into sucking off refugees. The second Chad looks her way she's gonna text you she's running late.

>>41984839
I believe you.

>>41984796
How old are you?

Also if you're really that low then shouldn't you talk to your doctor about getting on trt? Though I've heard of many people being just within range and doctors not doing it, so I guess worst case scenario you just get it illegally and do self administered trt like a lot of people here seem to do.

>>41984839
I dunno what's worse, the fact that this sounds completely ridiculous or the fact that I agree with it 100%

>>41978095
My dad is trying to force me to take Oral winstrol for 2 weeks at 18 years old to "help improve" my muscle mass and overall fitness. I currently have the pills with me, do i take them or do i just throw them away?

He also told me that he'll give me "proviron" after that to clean the steriods away. Is he trying to fuck my body up?

>>41983403
>Regret
The only thing I regret is not trying them sooner. Started at 30.
>Affect
Gave me that push to be more assertive.

>>41985225
Your dad kinda sounds retarded. Why would he potentially fuck up your body to help improve your muscle mass at 18? Unless you're like a skeleton or something and he's extremely embarrassed.

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>Doing Dbol only for an 8 week cycle
>20/30/40/50/50/40/30/20
>Have no idea how much PCT to take
Thinking Nolva for four weeks @ 20mg. Too little?

>>41983403
>do you regret taking steroids?
So far, no. I'm blasting more then I should so I mght run into future problems. All signs point towards healthy but you never know.

>how did they affect your life(hoes, social life,people, mental aspect, etc)
They fixed fucking everyhting. Confidence, dominance, no more suicidal thoughts, amazing social boost and never ending energy.

>>41985225
Tell your dad it's a bad idea. If he wants you to improve hop on a light test cycle.
If he wants the best for you and you are interested direct him to the wiki.

>>41984344
Ignore the haters, I run a similar diet with great results. "Clean" diet is best diet.
Yours sound really good.

>>41985495
Pls go and stay go. Don't do Dbol only. I started out that way and it was a bad choice. I simply pissed away money for no real gains.
Look into injecting, if its scary, it is, but only the very first time.

>>41985410
I know....So i'm better off throwing them away right?

I don't even look that bad lol, been lifting for 1.5 years and already hit 1/2/3/4 ages ago

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>>41985571
>Don't do Dbol only
Alright. Kind of on week 6, though. May as well see it through. No gyno or obvious side effects yet but massive strength gains and size (which I'll probably be pissing away, but at least it's an experience)

I am going to hop onto test when I'm able. Just wanted some advice on PCT lad.

>>41985667
The nolva PCT should be good then.
It's not a hard cycle to get off.

I didn't even run PCT my first time.

22 year old male with low test here. In the low 200 range, I've been to 3 different doctors over the last year to complain about my horrible lethargy and depression due to low t and can't get a single one to prescribe me TRT. I did the MRI (no pituitary tumor found) and all the other tests with no results pointing to why my test is low, so they all say I'm too young or that it's too risky. I'm gaining weight, losing muscle, getting gyno, can't sleep, losing my hair and all sorts of stuff but apparently none of that is serious enough for a doctor to prescribe me T?? But I live in Seattle so I know multiple girls that got on hormones just by saying they identify more as a guy. Fuck this place. Should I just get on TRT illegally??

>>41985587
My opinion? Throw that shit away, yeah. Might wanna get some other people's opinions but your dad does not sound like a smart or sane man.

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>>41985698
@ 20mg for four weeks after, right?

Thanks for the advice by the way. Looking forward to getting this shit over with and hopping on some of the real stuff.

>>41985777
Drop it early, won't hurt.

>>41985725

Are you getting actual gyno, or is it just man boobs from gaining fat?

I was in a similar situation and jumped on self-administered TRT. No regrets. I feel much better.

The gyno thing is a concern, though. More test will only make that worse. What would you say your bodyfat percentage is, roughly?

>>41985725
>I live in Seattle

Just say you're a boy who identifies as a man and see if that works.

>>41985698
>not falling for the pct meme
thank god this place hasn't turned full nerd
>>41985667
i'll still defend oral only as not that bad for beginners who don't want to inject oil into their bodies yet

>>41985808
Honestly it could just be regular fat gain. I just read somewhere that crazy hormonal imbalances could cause gyno. I'm definitely still very overweight, I'm 6'1" 230lbs but I carry it fairly well because I'm a really wide stocky build.

>>41985832
PCT for a real cycle is the smart choice tho.

About orals, I see them more of a gateway to real gear.

>>41985832
20mg Nolva is too little.
You should always take pct.

>>41985854
i agree on both fronts.
but you can clearly spot a nerd when they go on and on about pct
nolva 40 40 20 20 is fine, and even without it your body maintains homeostasis. agree it's silly not to, but i find it odd how people think of you pct, someone you keep the same physique when you were supplementing 50x natural hormone levels lol

>>41985911
>nolva 40 40 20 20

>for an 8 week dbol cycle

Are you retarded?
20 for 4 weeks is fine.

>>41985937
Not me.

>>41985225
ur dad is fucking retarded m8
i suggest you remove yourself as far away from that kind of idiot as possible

>>41985963
It's okay nano you can let your true feelings out, we don't judge here.

>>41984344
>dairy
>meat
>non-organic veg
>mold-infested peanuts
>grains
>mercury-laden tuna
>"clean"

Any tips for final week before vacation?
I have plenty of dnp and been using it off/on past 6 weeks. But thinking it will be more harm than good with retaining water.
been using tren e around 500mg/wk ramped up to around 800mg just for the next 2 weeks.
carb cycling and hiit cardio
wini's 50mg
probably going to do some december to july transformation pics.
rented out a beachfront suit for me and my chick gna get some juicy shots. life is good /roid/

>>41985993
Sorry for being schizofrenic.

>>41986016
I really wish you vegans would stay in your containment threads.

>>41986031
youre on alot of shit

just to be able to look good while on vacay?

>>41985725
Get your thyroid checked first. Do some research and ignore the doctors ref ranges.

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>>41985796
May as well see it through lad. Otherwise I'm left with a waste of Dbol tabs, I'd rather just use the fuckers up.

>>41985875
20mg for four weeks is too little? Why do you think that?

>>41985937
>>41985911
>>41985963
Pls don't tear yourself apart for me nano

>>41986053
low test
tren
wini
>a lot of shit
and yeah basically. i'll do a show but have plenty other more important shit right now.
Why diet, cardio, lift? just to..what?

>>41983474
This shit made me fuckin lol

>>41986098
Why not save up the remianing dbol to kickstart a real cycle? Saves you money.

>>41985851

Lift your arm up as high as you can, then feel your nipple. If it's gyno, there will be a bump underneath.

Do you already lift? If so, strongur.io has a pretty decent bodyfat estimator. If you're over 12-15%, you'll probably have more issues with estrogen when you add in exogenous testosterone. I'm not saying avoid it entirely (though most people here will), just be aware of that.

If you're kinda fat, that's probably a contributing factor to the doctors refusing to treat you.

>>41982789
Do you think threatening someone that much smaller than you makes you tough?

You're a punk fucking bitch. You could be 100lbs more than me I'll make you the bottom.

>>41982861
Get him in his sleep

>>41986230
>t. angry skeleton

>>41985727
>>41985571
>>41985984
Yeah i'll probably just throw them away lol
I'm just gonna stay natty for a bit more years, fuck my dad i don't even need roids.

By the way, i'm curious what would happen IF i took the oral winstol for two weeks only? Will i get any good effects out of it or is it really THAT bad?

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I shit you not, what kept me going to the gym day in and day out was my fighting game waifus. As I was shitting myself squatting up 405lbs I imagined my sweet pettanko Noel Vermillion behind me cheering me on: Ganbare!

2010-2014: Noel/Asuka. I went through a bit of a Kula phase as well when KOF13 dropped but never really got that great.

2015-2016, went through a huge Jack-O phase. As I was resting between sets I would youtube her win pose where she sucks that lollipop and pretend that was my dick instead. I always managed to add 5-10lbs more weight in each lift every two weeks doing that.

2017 now it's back to Asuka with T7 dropping, with a side of Jack-O. Can't wait for the major gains in 2018 when Dragonball drops and I get to masturbate to Android 18.

>>41986401
I'm the master of wini solo kek
2 weeks is a waste
best 6-8 weeks.
some say 4 is enough but idk never worked that quick for me

>>41986259
You aren't the real cunt

About to start my first cycle and I wanna make the best of it in terms of training: GVT? PPL? PHAT? Bro-split?

>>41986433
real cunt was one of the few i considered an actual friend here

>>41986462
Whatever lets you go to the gym and work hard consistently

>>41986016
Pretty much impossible to get >4000kcals and protein without getting waaay too much fiber veganbro

Normally I don't eat much meat or drink milk at all, it's just because I value shitting solid substances that I'm gonna bulk on what I said

>>41986433
I just picked a random name. Also if you'll notice I don't post as cunt, but Poor Cunt. I'm not trying to pretend to be anybody.

>>41986475
What happened to him?

>>41986501
probably fell off like i did years ago. i think i still have his email somewhere.
last i knew...he had a gf maybe? idk. solid guy.
from like ireland or somewhere?

>>41986401
2 weeks? Exactly nothing.

>about to start 500test/600 tren/800eq (frontloaded) /50mg anadrol ks blast

Wish me luck on leaving humanity.

>>41986764
i'd go dbol over drol, besides that sounds bretty sexy, mirin

got proviron from pharmacy for 3$, pharma grade (bayer). u jelly?

>>41984899
Yeah I'm trying to get on legit TRT if my new insurance is better than my old one.

The reference range they used was 240-1100 but that covers everybody from 20 year old guys (should be higher) to 90 year old men (the low range).

Getting a second opinion because I have a lot of the symptoms.

>>41984814
Would her penis be feminine?

been bulking on test and want to cut

anything better than test to cut on or just stay on test

What does the pre-gyno itch feel like?

I'm almost to week 4 and my pecs itch sometimes. I don't know if its nerves or what. It never itches on the nipple, just in the area around it. I got a hairy chest so many thats contributing to the itch.

>>41986806
1. yes
2. give me the low on proviron. never ran it, is it anything like wini? heard it dries you out nice and makes u wana fuk

>>41986818
You'll really feel it in the nipples so it might be hair. Keep an eye out for it. Do your nips responds more then usual when you squeeze em?

>>41986814
Tren.

>>41986806
I'll stick to my shitty UGL vials tyvm.

>>41986783
Not looking to deal with the mega estro of dbol

Can't really go wrong with adrol in my opinion
>Huge glycogen loading
>Insane pumps and strength
>Leaves you bigger in weeks

Also makes me hungry as a motherfucker, easy to eat loads of plain rice and beef/chicken to go with the new intensity

>Getting excited to do my shot today once I get off work
>mom texts and asks for help setting up some wedding rehersal thing
>know that I won't be home to do my thing until like 8, and even then I won't have the house to myself thus making it difficult for me to pin in peace

I guess relevant question: Alright to pin my left quad again? It's been 7 days since I did it there and it seems to have healed up fine. How often and what what sites do you guys rotate to?

>>41986847
how do you mean "respond"? like get hard? they don't feel anymore sensitive than normal, which is not very sensitive at all

trying to watch it like a hawk

>>41986856
uh...doesnt drol cause big bloat and estro...?
i always saw drol as a more powerful bol basically. high blood pressure n shit.
done sdrol a few times, that shit is legit.
even more legit is injectable dbol. shit is wild kek

>>41986818
lol any itching that is unusual is pre-gyno itch

you should know what is normal and what isn't... I've never had an itch in this area in my life pre-roids

>>41986918
It causes bloat but barely on me. No other estro symptoms it's a dht derivative

>>41986906
Injecting ED, rotating between 4 quad sites and 2 glute spots.
You can pin the same spot a few times in a row, scar tissue doesn't build up that quickly.

>>41986911
If nothing is out the ordinary you should be fine. What >>41986928 might be right, but for me its always right on the nipple.

>>41986819
yea it really kicks in fast, i took 50mg today and im horny as fuck

>>41986906
yes, 2 sites (two sides of the same site really) is fine for e3d/e4d pins

think about learning a new site sometimes around week 20+

>>41985725
just get on test, saves you a lot of trouble with docs and in the us probably half your income.
the only reason they dont give trt is so they cant get sued if something goes wrong. trannys are fine cause they can pospone everything till those retards kill themself sooner or later.

>>41986933
>>41986950
dually noted, fellas. thanks
i stick with bare bone sources the past few years so i been stuck with basics

>>41986918
>uh...doesnt drol cause big bloat and estro...?
what the fuck are you saying retard

>>41986928
right, but is your chest hairy as fuck? cause if I sweat I get a small itch on my pecs.

>>41982364
>>41982354
>affordability or taste
pick one

>>41987258
Chicken tastes pretty good and you should neck yourself if you can't enjoy some nice steamed broccoli.

What would happen if you were to permabulk on "clean carbs" and lean meats?

Would you eventually reach a point where your muscle.mass and tdee outpaces your appetite for clean foods? Yeah anyone can eat 10k a day in bacon and sausage and sugary carbs, but it's fucking hard to eat more than 5k in white rie and chicken, especially if you keep a protein:carb ratio

this is also assuming you're blasting gear and working out with insane volume, wouldn't you eventually hit a wall where you cant or are unwilling to eat more, and you recomp? You would be using fat as fuel always and if your muscle is taking in the aminos and glucose floating around to grow, your fat stores would eventually shrink

>>41986811
go to a mens vitality clinic/anti aging or a naturopathic doctor, preferably younger, i'm 24 been b/c for one year on small amounts of gear. I fudged my test before hand and came in @ 340, insurance covered under 425, now I have my script, doctors monitoring my levels, pharm estrogen blockers etc
Just go in and tell them you recently lost drive for sex, motivation, and don't feel the same anymore

>>41987408
Just eat a large pizza cuck stop falling for the clean meme, what you need most importantly is calories.

>>41986230
Yes it does. I feel tough when I do it.

>>41987434
Nah a calorie isn't always just a calorie, and nutrients are required for growth.

Huge difference in how your body processes 100kcal of chicken breast and 100kcal of marshmallows.

Muscle loves glucose, especially when you're on aas and working hard.

>>41987449
Bet you didn't feel tough when your dad beat the shit out of your slut mom and your beta cuck ass was too weak to stop him. You're no different than him, the cycle repeats itself.

Overcompensating beta just like daddy.

>>41986475
I just miss him. I was lashing out.

>>41987468
He never beat my mum. Only me and my brother.

>>41987459
Nice meme Reddit

>>41987479
Obviously not enough because you still turned out effeminate. That was likely the reason he hit you, to try and make you a man.

Your mom married an abusive bad boy and then plays the victim when he's abusive when that's what mad her wet for him. It's her fault for picking him out of all the males in Australia. Blame her, you could have had a nice dad.

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>>41987449
i'm on the fence with this but leaning more your side here.
there is one side, well you should be confident in yourself enough not to have to go there.
the other side, it is completely fulfilling to blast a beta right the fuck out

>>41987505
Nah. Dad was really good until the GFC hit and he lost his job.

>>41987510
Responding with threats of violence means you think he is threatening to you. Low social position you. By regarding it as a joke, Him as a joke, you reaffirm your stance as above him. Not offering a chance for.him to rebuff his position.

>>41987523
Nice cope, you don't just start beating your little kids because things aren't going your way. Stop making excuses for your mom being a whore and getting knocked up by the first aggressive man that looked her direction.

How do I become low inhibition and inject chinese bathtub hormones like you guys?

>>41987537
>muh moral superiority
>just let whatever guy say and do whatever they want to your girlfriend because Hahaha dude man good joke

You're a cuck

>>41987541
Yes anon. Thank you anon.

>>41987546
I'd say it lowers inhibitions to try other steroids and productive drugs. But for life in general, nah. Low inhibition comes with confidence, injecting mystery liquids is a road to confidence.

>>41987562
You're a fool

If you felt offended by the speech, you don't have to bring in physical dominance, especially when it's obviously in your favor.

Speak softly and carry a big stick. Just say, "don't do that" boom done you don't have to overcompensate and go all chimpy chimp. Be a fucking man

>>41987607
I know I don't have to. I know gf doesn't see him as a romantic interest and it was a joke in general. I could have let it slide but I just wanted to be a prick for a bit and boost my ego.

>>41982789
Do you notice being jealous more since roiding.

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>>41987619
I think that behavior turns girls on. having a guy who will go ape crazy for them
>>41987877
tren? YUP.
it's weird though I can feel like a nothing can phase me and at the same time lose my shit if i THINK my gf like followed someone on instagram. even though she is prob the most loyal person i've ever met

first cycle test prop and tren a eod ok? the test is 150/ml and the tren is 200/ml, is 450/wk for test and 600/wk for tren alright? is clomid enough for pct or should i get something else? do you finish up your vial if there's some left or are you pretty strict about how many weeks you run your cycle? sorry for the dumb questions

Ever since starting 150mg test TRT my appetite has skyrocketed. I have no idea how you deal with it on blasts

>>41987918
lol me being jealous was a huge problem with me and the ex. But I don't regret being jeoalous because her bullshit oh I only like you, you never have anything to worry about was bullshit. She's now hooking up with my old roommate.

>>41988078
i also realized w my last ex, i was more jealous and miserable. and looking back i had plenty reasons to be.
this time around, new girl, new blast of tren i'm like a whole different person

>>41988033
fuck off retard

>>41988146
what if i added in something about how much i love my gf, better?

>>41988033
>>41988202
I def wouldn't do tren first go around, man.
but there are no dumb questions on /roid/ just some salty folks.
this is first cycle in general or first cycle of tren?

>>41988202
Dude that's all basic stuff you're asking for first cycle knowledge don't run the tren. Do 500mg test e and you'll grow.

>>41987877
I think I'm more confident that I back up my jealousy if need be. So that allows me to express it more and more agggressively. But as for more jealous, nah.

I was never a jealous person until ex-exgf cheated on me.

>>41988285
dude only has prop, i wanted e or c first time around but that's what's available.
>>41988267
appreciate the advice, I'll cut out the tren this time. i don't really want my cardio affected too much anyway so that's alright

>>41988267
first cycle ever
>>41988317

>>41988202
scroll aaall the way up and read the op of this thread for the first time

>>41988317
>>41988328
Well there is a lot to learn just from pinning test.
I went on and did a standard 14wk test 500mg/wk.
learned my body, how it all worked, kept reading and learning.
then didn't go off, cruised on 250mg for a while then did tren. i'd go w that if you're really looking to do tren, have higher goals

>>41979335

What the fuck are "Chad eyes?"

>>41988353
thanks for this
>>41988331
proceeding

Just finished dbol yesterday.

>holy shit

Those pumps felt amazing. So hard I had to stop fucking the wife.

>ordered more to make it a total of 8 weeks.

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Third injection: my quad twitches when the needle went in, but other than that not much to report. Needle didn't break though so I assume I'm fine.

These constant updates are probably annoying as fuck, sorry my dudes.

>>41988523
where at in the quad are you pinning?

what angle?

how deep?

>>41988529
Midway up on the top-outside part, like I did my first pin. 90 degree angle. Not sure exactly how deep but it's a 1.5 inches needle and I left out a little bit in case it broke. Aside from the weird twitch it went and feels exactly like my other pins.

>>41988548
You might be hitting your IT band.

>>41984344
Read that as 200g orals

>>41988563
I don't think so, that seems more on the outside of my leg than I'm injecting. Also it wasn't far from my first pin site and I didn't have any trouble there. I think I may have accidentally been tending it a bit without realizing, but I'll be more careful next time.

>>41988580
*tensing
Phone posting is gay

>>41988580
I'd try moving down a half an inch or so. Maybe more towards the knee.

I only pin quads. I don't feel like twisting to pin my ass.

>>41988607
i only go ass and shoulders.
quads can be hit or major miss

>>41988614
Hitting a nerve in quads isn't even that bad sissy, I hit one like 75% of the time and just keep pushing.

Pretty sure the gear I bought is bunk. Without shooting shady oils for a couple weeks until I get confirm with a blood test would overnight in the freezer prove whether its got hormone in it or if its just oil in a vial?

>>41988635
it's not even the nerve so much, but if i get pip in my quad i'm walking shitty for days.
even the worst pip in my ass is still manageable

>>41988607
So far I've only pinned quads and I'm probably gonna stick with it for now. No twisting or anything, I can just sit down and go.

Also I don't want my ass muscles hurting or two days from pinning there.

>>41988638
How are you pretty sure? Steroids with an unnecessary amount of solvent for most situations in them may not crash in the freezer either.

>>41988644
use insulin syringes and 27g needles and you'll never get pip again

I get 0 pinning tren A ED

>>41988638
>>41988662
i'd at least ride it out. what makes you sure it's bunk??
shooting nothing is a guarantee no gains
my bet is it's still early or you're underwhelmed at the effects

>>41988662
ya no pip so i doubt there's an overdose of solvent in there

>>41988667
pip can be caused by the solvents in the steroid and their concentration, improperly filtered/sterilised (bacteria, particles), not enough solvent and the gear crashing in depot, among other things.

>>41988674
nah, had to change labs for the last vial of my cycle. the usual sides of the wash out have started, its either underdosed or blank oil I think.

>>41988667
>slin
it would be a hell of a lot easier for me to get. walgreens gives me so much shit when i buy rigs.
but i like goin real deep. think i'll still give it a try

>>41982789
the fact your gf texts other guys who have the audacity to call her babe is more telling than of your reaction. why the fuck is your girlfriend texting dudes

is this a millenial thing?

>>41982789
lmao how does manlet cum taste?

>>41988773
Crusader is that insecure dangerously angry sociopathic guy that everyone gets warned about - threatening physical harm to a third party over a word - that parking lot incident.

>>41988808
i have no idea what you're referring to because i don't follow the faggots in these threads

but its really giving alot away that he brags on here to try to be alpha about his little jealous sperg out instead of getting mad at the fucking girl for texting some dudes

i know alot of you guys who fuck with alot of chicks think its perfectly normal but if you think about it, its the bitches fault not the skinny dude texting her jokingly

either that or hes obviously gay and hes even more of an idiot for losing it and then bragging about it like its something worth noting

you guys post in this thread constantly applauding yourself for this meaningless behaviour and though process

its all empty and a way to make up for whatever insecurities led you to juicing and lifting

these threads have so little decent info in them, i sometimes come here and post a legitimate question and it gets very few replies if any, but these little slice of my day alpha stories are a popular staple

its a hell really, and could be used as an ISIS recruitment tool

>>41988847
>these threads have so little decent info in them
welcome to 4chan 2017

>>41988847
Anon is English your first language?

>>41988847
No that's the point, he's not jealous because of the dude texting the gf. He's jealous because the skinny twink is texting the gf instead of letting sader fuck him.

>>41988869
yes im just kind of drunk and hate everything rn.

its only 6:30pm here, just counting down hours to sleep so i can wakeup and go train because my life feels so empty RN so i come on here to sperg against random anons

>>41988882
p. sure crusader is a troll designed to make christians look bad

>>41988889
It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case, stranger things have happened on 4chins in the past year. Such as the unmasking of trappy.

>>41988882
Are you alright anon? I know that feel and all but you need to calm down man. Wanna talk about it?

>inb4 unrelated to the thread, it's not like we ever really stay on topic anyway.

>>41986764
Just pinned. 5ml oil total with test/eq frontload.

Have 40+lbs of top sirloin and flank steak in my freezer. 25lb bag of Jasmine rice.

Goodbye humanity, wish I could say it's been a pleasure

Hey I'm a girl, why are guys such assholes?

>>41988889
Fucking dedicated to my character then

>>41989139
Why are girls such cunts?

>>41989169
Hey don't say that she has a vagina

>>41989188
Not all girls have vaginas

IT IS THE C U R R E N T Y E A R

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>>41989071
Cmon guys I don't have friends that pin that can be excited for my blast. Be supportive.

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LETS DO THIS

Why do i only get pip in my left quad? Are the jews behind this?

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>>41989232
I'm very happy for you anon :)