/fat/ Never gonna make it, edition

>getting to the point now where walking around clothed I feel outta shape but at least like a normal human who can walk around without sweating and fucking with my clothes constantly
>sit at home shirtless and realise I'm still fuckin atrocious

just hurry up reeeeeee

oh man, I'm eating loads of shit just to use this MFP barcode scanner

>>41975450
>just hurry up
What? Weight loss?

>>41975471
>just to use this MFP barcode scanner
WTF?

>>41975486

yeah. I'm not complaining really, it just takes so much patience

Might be a retarded question but I'm confused about something. Do you really need to burn more calories than you eat per day to lose weight?

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Post yfw not fat.

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>>41975501

Yes but that's including your baseline metabolism/energy expenditure ie what your body uses up just living through the day. You don't have to burn off 1600 through exercise if you've eaten 1500

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>>41975510
6'1'
Weight- 205lbs (Down two stone)

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post yfw fat

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>>41975505

Lads is fat loss just calculate my tree and eat 500 cals less a day whilst encorporating healthy eating and exercise? Or do I need to know my bmr and sit?

Give it to me straight senpai

Today I ate 1180 calories :(
I'm supposed to be eating 400 a day.

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>>41975597

>>41975536

>tfw 6'1" and 235 still looking like the drain outside a liposuction clinic

shit man if I look that much better than I do now after another 30lbs I'll be laughing

>>41975611
yes pretty much do all that you stated above.
you can adjust the calorie deficit (500 and above) depending on what TDEE you're starting from.

Nervous about going to the beach house this weekend with the family. So much going out to eat and ice cream. Everyone seems to get so annoyed that I care so much about what I'm eating...

I hear many people say keeping the weight off is hard but what makes it so hard? To people just go back to eating shit and way too much of that shit again? Why after months to years to avoid it?

>>41975510
Just finished 3rd Chipotle burrito in 3 days.

But I have to walk an hour in the Texas heat to get it.

>>41975381
yall yogurt boys? what brands you get?

>>41975638
because they think the "diet" is done when they reach their goal weight, instead of trying to maintain it.

>>41975632
You're making them feel guilty. But their guilt and other feelings are on them, not you.

>>41975638
>doing alright
>brain goes to shit
>get fat drinking
>eventually quit
>lose weight
>repeat

I'm on my fifth time or something.

>>41975630
I used the tdee calculator in the OP which gives me 2900 cals a day...Which seems awfully high as I've eaten at fewer calories for a week or so than that and not lost weight

>>41975646
onken

>>41975646
Chobani. Duh.

>>41975638
People look at dieting as dieting for just until they lose the weight and then go back to eating what they did before. And obviously going back to that amt of cal is gonna get u back to original weight eventually.

>>41975646
dannon light and fit greek
80 cals 15g protien keeps me satisfyed until lunch and cheesecake flavored

>>41975632
fuck them anon, they're ganging up on you because you're trying to better yourself? sounds like these faggots are just crabs in a bucket, unwilling to see others succeed if it's not for their personal interest. Disregard anything they say or do, resist temptation. You'll be alright.

>>41975646
Cottage cheese

whatever is the cheapest. Usually like 1-2$ a pound

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>>41975510
Had an unscheduled kit kat bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ8IXAEdV78

Back was hurting, was set on wimping out of going to the gym today

Then I saw the twinkie eater, and I got up and went to the fuckign gym

>>41975662
did you count exercise and use an activity level above sedentary?

Always go for 0 exercise, and sedentary couch potato. NEVER COUNT EXERCISE OR ACTIVITY.

>>41975597
:DDDD

>>41975622
Yeah i'm a retard who went from 230ish down to 198 and put on a stone like a retard, feels bad man

>>41975685
have an unscheduled jog to make up for it. or a series of sprints.

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>>41975510
My mom brought me a slice of Coconut Cream Pie from Eat N' Park. I ate it after a big bowl of penne ground chicken pasta.

>>41975613
>400 a day
are you 3 feet tall?

Is there any remotely accurate way to gauge how many calories you're burning off during exercise? The values mfp and similar give you seem waaaaay exaggerated, like you can go for a 30 minute walk and that's hundreds burned etc.

>>41975381
My fitness pal says I'm 8 protons off my goal, is this okay? I underate today but there's nothing around to eat.

>>41975704
Yeah that's what I put, I work a desk Job and drive 2 hours a day to/from work so I'm pretty much sedentary outside of my running which is 3 times a week for half an hour.
5"11
220 pounds
30 y/o male

Gave me a tdee of 2900, so I guess I'll eat 2400 cals a day for a week or so and monitor, perhaps cut another 100 or so if no changes?

>>41975740
4,3 female ._.

>>41975777
whats your goal per day? nice digits. Its 1g per lean body weight so you really dont need more than 100g.

>>41975786
I always go over my daily calorie goal, i just go and walk my dog or some shit

>>41975781
>Gave me a tdee of 2900
I calculate 2560. Always do little or no exercise when calculating tdee.

I ate 1000 kcal a day for the last 5 days, today I managed just 500 kcal, and I am not losing weight, it doesn't make sense. Plateauing aside, when I eat 1/3 of my TDEE I should lose something. Does anyone have an explanation? I'm not having memory gaps either that might cover up secret eating, as I simply don't have the food supplies.
>inb4 stop starving yourself

>>41975786
Your a dumb bitch if you are doing 400 calories a day. Your TDEE is closer to 1650.

>>41975807
Water weight maybe?

>>41975781
listen anon, I'm going to save you at least a couple weeks of figuring this shit out by yourself and give it to you straight. A man your weight can do fine with 1500 calories a day. That's a 1400 calories deficit, and it'll get you at least down two pounds a week, even more while losing waterweight.
If you wanna ease into it, sure go down progressively with your calorie deficit, but in the end you'll have to increase it as your TDEE will lower as you become leaner.
So better start now and make quick progress of the first fifty pounds. Just my two cents.

>>41975807
Just don't eat

>>41975807

It's never consistent m8, you'll probably find that a load drops at once after seeing nothing. You're asking to burn out doing that btw but whatever, I'm not your mum.

>>41975820
No need to be mean, it's probably a larp anyway

>>41975807
You are doing the fatty gonna fat thing. Undercounting calories and overcounting exercise. Weigh all your food and log religiously with my fitness pal.

After running keto, can i just amp my carb intake to like 100g or will that make me gain weght (not water weight, but actual fat) even if i'm on a deficit? trying to plan my refeed to a normal diet before going home

>>41975852
you'll literally explode

>>41975852
>After running keto, can i just amp my carb intake to like 100g

Ruining? A diet be a diet man. You lose weight. Keto doesn't have a muscle sparring anymore than anyother diet.

>>41975875
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>41975840
>assumptions
I'm not even counting exercise, I aim for 1800 kcals, MFP recommends 2100.
Here's my listing for today:
3 large eggs (~210 kcal)
2 tbsp of mustard
2 slices of whole grain high-fiber bread (200 kcal)
10g of margarine (35 kcal)
2 cups of vinegar cucumber salad (literally just cucumbers, pepper, salt, water, vinegar, 32 kcal)
2 liters of water

>>41975786
hey anonette, I'm 5'5 and I eat about 800 calories on average daily (goes from 600 to 1000 from day to days). My TDEE is 1544, so
I average a 744 calorie deficit. I don't know what your stats are so I wouldn't be able to tell you what is a reasonable deficit for you, but it for sure doesn't equate to eating only 400 calories a day. You're going to fuck your shit up, metabolism, nervous system, endocrine system just because you want a quick fix to your mistake. Just own up to it and do it the right way.

I only eat once a day though (OMAD+23:1), keeps me disciplined and I feel full and content after my meal, up until the same hour the next day.
As some anon said in a precedent thread, I think it's better to eat one big feast a day, like a warrior, than to have three holocaust survival rations throughout the day (+it triggers insulin spikes and thus insulin resistance, diabetes as opposed to fasting). Try it if you're not already doing it.

>>41975905
i'm not talking muscle sparring, i'm simply asking if after losing weight on keto, if i suddenly amp my carbs will i get back not only the water weight, but also a bit of fat even if i'm still on a deficit

basically i want to know if i need a refeed period

>>41975807
If you're undereating by 2000kcal a day in 5 days you could potentially lose 2.87 lbs fat.

You're weight fluctuates on more than just body fat though. So you can gain water weight, or have more pee pee and poo poo, food in your stomach, or cancerous tumor.

Im trying real hard here fit, lost 27kg since feburary.

Still feel like I'm dying though but thats crippling anxiety disorders for you

>>41975970
look anon, not the guy you're replying to, but I'm gonna share personal experience.
I did do lowcarb for a while, and when I did my first carb refeed in the process of transitioning to eating a higher dose of carbs, I gained back water weight. I think I gained about 1.5kg in the day after the refeed, and it took me a week to shed it back. Then when I started eating a higher dose of carbs on a daily basis, I suspect I gained a bit more water weight (I was still on deficit, so it couldn't have been fat). Maybe 1.1kg more. I got rid of it in 10 days and went back to losing fat on moderate carb now.

I've been on a 1,500 kcal/day diet for about a month now. Are the mood swings normal?

>>41976006

gj man, keep it up. Bipolarfag here, it's still brutal but at least when I am functioning I get to enjoy not being a big fat fuck on top of everything else.

>>41975510
I went to bill millers with friends but I had their unsweet tea and salad with some chicken wing/breast on top and lowfat ranch

IDK how to input this into mfp.

>>41976006
be strong anon, you'll get there eventually.
I'm also suffering from social anxiety, but it's getting better. I'm working on it.

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>>41976050
>mfw i've never been fat

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>went from 93kg to 80
>start fucking this girl
>keeps telling me to stop losing weight, i wouldn't look good any skinnier
>i'm 80kg at 180cm, it's basically overweight
>somehow buy into her bullshit
>now back at 84kg

FUCK i know i have no one to blame but myself but im pissed

>>41976013
i'm not really worried about the water weight desu, i understand that it's unavoidable since i've fasted before, just wanted to know there would be fat weight if i upped all of a sudden, but it seems there isn't

thanks anon

>>41976029
We all get hangry sometimes anon. Don't worry about it.

>>41976037
cheers fella

>>41976061
dude, my goal weight is 70kg at 165, i'm cutting to 58kg then lean bulking to it

80kg seems completely okay desu, even desirable if you want muscle

>>41976090
thing is i'm skinnyfat as fuck with literally 0 muscle mass

i was gonna cut down to 70kg and then bulk my way up again, which is gonna take atleast a month longer now

>>41975935
>10g of margarine (35 kcal)
Isn't this 75 kcal?

>>41975938
Please specify which type of diabetes, it shouldn't annoy me but I feel it spreads misinformation that "diabetes" could be avoidable. This is limited to specific types.

Unfortunately for some of us, Type 1 diabetes is unavoidable.

>>41976061
Well...I'm in the opposite situation I guess?

>start losing weight, bf is supportive but very reassuring that he'd love me at -any size-
>make good progress fast because hitting all the right stops for diet, exercise, sleep, fitness in general
>bf notices and comes out to me about his body image issues, and how he wishes to lose weight (around 200lbs for 6'1)
>asks me for help to set him up with a meal plan and exercise regimen
>one night sit through all of it and do the work together
>he gets a membership at the gym
>fast forward two weeks later
>he hasn't been counting calories/macros
>I tell him he's not going to see positive change if he keeps like that, that he's basically wasting all his exercise efforts on poor diet
>don't want to be controlling gf and just say that ultimately he decides what to do and don't want to push him.
>legitimately scared he'll balloon up and have health complications.

I've resorted to waiting till we move in together, and actually cooking him the food he needs so he hits his macros and calorie goals.

>>41976173
rather than getting a kid before you are even pregnant i think you should insist that he becomes independant and take control of his own impulses and health, it gets really tiring when you are caring for a child you never had

>>41976140

everyone can understand I am talking about type 2 here, I specifically said it after mentioning that "the triggering of insulin spikes, [causing] insulin resistance, [causes] diabetes". It was just a logical development in the sentence that would make it clear which type I am talking about.

>spreads misinformation that diabetes could be avoidable
Wrong. I'm doing the exact opposite. Spreading information on the fact that it is avoidable. For type 2 obviously. It's not because you have been doomed with type 1 that you should censor all information on the topic of diabetes just because it triggers you to hear there is hope for other people. Have some human decency.

>>41976208
I just think he could use some help.
He's a great man, I want to be a caring girlfriend.
He fulfills his duties as the man in the relationship, and is dedicated a lot into work.
He's an adult on all fronts, except perhaps his views on nutrition and health.
I think I can at least ease him into it by making him good meals for a couple months, then maybe as he sees the results coming, he'll agree to do it himself. I think I owe him that because he's been there to support me through my weight loss.

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>>41975510
I binge-ate, bad. It's been a long time since I last have but I remember why I haven't done it in a long time; I feel like absolute shit and fucked up my deficit to high hell.
Only comfort I've got is that there's always tomorrow.
;-;

>>41976261
just remember you can't look after him when he's not home, i used to cook for my ex, she then would go to work, eat a shitton of snacks and candy and complain that i was the cause she didn't lose weight, but if he's a responsable adult like you say i guess there's no problem

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>tfw now considered obese and not morbidly obese

It's an abstract kind of feel

Hey fatties, I didn't think that gains goblins shit was true but holy fuck I've only been lifting/dieting for a month and I think I'm starting to experience it

>friends give me shit about not drinking too much with them
>same friends trying to lose weight
>other friends telling me gym is a waste of money
>im lifting more than those friends now
>family says I should eat more
>they were the ones calling me fat before

Good thing I'm not mentally pathetic but fuck this is annoying

>>41976293
I'm really sorry to hear about the way your ex attributed her lack of success to you, anon. it really breaks my heart, I don't know if it's from ignorance or just plain mean spirited intention to deviate guilt.
My boyfriend...well he's a man. so he's reasonable. He doesn't count his calories or macros, but he lets me know when he eats or drinks something, even if it's junk. He holds himself accountable so I think there is leeway to improve his relationship with food.
Thanks for your concern though, I appreciate you looking out for me, after what you experienced.

>>41976224
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that suggest I can reverse my T1. I feel this is down to people generalising it to just "diabetes". I did not say it needed to be censored at all, I'm not sure where you read that in my post. I said that you should specify what type you mean.

Insulin resistance is also an important aspect in type 1, it's not specific to type 2. They are important for different reasons though.

It's okay if you want to get defensive, I understand you feel you know a lot on the subject. I just want you to understand why it's frustrating for T1s.

>>41976312
Don't let them distract you from your goal. You will become mentally stronger as well if you stick to what you want, which will help you physically in the long run. We are gonna make it.

>>41975381
Down to 225 from 255 and just started lifting again. Got so out of shape as an adult after college. I can barely bench 185. I look at my old lifting journal from highschool and weep.

>tfw you could power clean 255 and can't even DL 3 plate now

>>41975381
When can I order my celebration pizza meal

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>wanted to fast since I've been stuck at the same weight for the last 5 days
>not making it

I'm fucking hungry bros

>>41976404
fasting for 4 days now brother, still one more to go

this is hell and i want to die

tfw I lost weight, but my tummy looks even bigger, since love handles and back fat are almost completely gone and waist has shrunk.

the leaner you get, the more obvious your stomach fat becomes relative to the rest of your body, since stomach fat goes last.

abs when???

My pants that were very tight on me when I was fat are now sliding off of me. I dont wanna buy new clothes I still have 60 more pounds left

>>41976404
>not fasting every fucking day till you hit sub 7% bf .

>Confirmed for never gonna make it.

>>41976418
Abs start appearing at 8% bf

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>>41976432
I just want to eat dinner

>>41976435
lol what

Joined a gym yesterday.

A staff member showed me squats and bench press. They were difficult but I did OK.

He said deadlifts would be too difficult so he showed me barbell rows instead, but I couldn't get the proper form. He recommended machine seated rows instead.

I don't need to progress at a fast pace. Will that help me with form? Before I start increasing weight I want to make sure I'm lifting correctly so I don't fuck anything up.

>>41976355
Well anon, I understand there are general misconceptions about type 1 diabetes, especially the shams of reversing it. I'm familiar with it, albeit none too much with the scientific explanations.

I think you should understand where I am coming from too, as an advocate for health too.
I am also sick of hearing the complacent masses of overweight and obese people talk about diabetes as if it could never be prevented or treated with the simplest change of lifestyle.

So of course, I'll take you up on your words and try and make a clarification too when you say that I am "spreading misinformation that diabetes could be avoidable".
Why don't you specify which type, yourself? Because type 2 is avoidable. So enough with double standards.
I'd rather educate people here on the fact that there is hope and potential for reversal, than to concede into the general pseudoscience atmosphere of fat acceptance, and the normalization of the various diseases and conditions associated with it.
I hope you see the other side of this coin.
It's only a question of principle if people like me come up on the defense when someone tries to justify their environmental disease on genetics, because it's an enabler mentality that is harmful to our society. So I feel like I should always step up to the challenge if someone discredits a scientific piece of evidence regarding health.
But this is a dialogue of deaf people: clearly you wanted to make a point about your experience with T1, whereas I was more interested in signaling the dangers of T2 complacence.

>>41976061
are you me? My gf does that shit all the time. I'm convinced she just wants me to stay fat so she doesn't have to take care of herself

>>41976440
what I do is skip lunch and breakfast and have dinner early.


like water fast all day, and have your dinner about 5-6 hours before bed. So if you go to bed around 11 pm, have dinner around 5:30 to 6 pm.

Then you can have a protien shake if you want before bed.

It makes it super easy to be full on 1500 or less calories, since you can have one big meal.

I try to go for 200 carbs, 150 protien, 50 fat.

which ends up being around 1850 calories.

If you eat "healthy' aka less fat( 10-20 grams) you can average around 1500 easily.

>>41976483
deadlifts aren't difficult. Just start very light. Machine seated rows will work the same muscle, but as with all rowing exercises, your limiting muscle will be your arms. You need strong biceps to row heavy weight.

with deadlifts, your arms are completely out of the equation, you are basically picking up the weight with your back and hamstrings.

Be careful with deadlifts, you don't want to slip a disk and go to snap city.

>>41976224
>everyone can understand I'm talking about type 2 here

As a recently diagnosed type 2 diabetic, I assure you that isn't true. I've had to explain quite a bit as I told people about my condition, and it's clear that although most people know there are 1 types they absolutely do not know the differences between them. I didn't either, until I got diagnosed.

>>41976483
Flexibility is probably your biggest hurdle to proper form. Stretch a lot every work out.

>>41976486
I didn't specify a type in that one sentence due to quoting you using the generalising term. That's why I said a sentence after it saying "this is limited to specific types". Not just T2 but also gestational or steroid diabetes. Potentially more as we uncover new types.

>>41976530
Good call. I stretch legs fairly regularly because i walk a lot, but what stretches are good for barbell work like squats and rows?

>>41976552
Hamstrings. I stretch them twice whenever I'm going to do squats, first one leg out at a time leaning forward and standing bent at the waste right before the lift.

>>41976173
yeah for some reason normies believe that exercise is way more important than diet. I have a friend who claims you can eat whatever you want as much as you want, as long as "you exercise for 30 mins at least three times a week"

>>41976608
Exercise is a pain, but everybody knows it's good for you.

Its much harder to change your diet, and harder than that to really pay attention to what you are eating.

Oh shit I just realized my birthday is next week. I guess I will go hardcore with the dieting so I can drink a whole liter of booze and eat Chinese food on my special 23rd faggot birthday.

>>41976585
Bad, static stretching is not for before workouts

Do leg swings before squats

>>41975510
My stomach hurt a bit so I decided not to go running. I then proceeded to eat two sandwiches, which fucked up my deficit today. I usually have a day where I eat normally every week anyway, as I'm on a fairly low calorie diet (nothing insane like sub-1000 kcals tho) and I exercise too, so all in all it's not a huge problem, I'm just mad because it wasn't planned, I just gave in.

>>41976783
I'm the newbie gym guy, can you explain more or link an article?

I'm just starting so I want to get it right.

Anyone experience insane upper back pain when first starting weight training?

Ive had people watch my form and it seems to be good, but im about 3 weeks into every other day lifting and my upper back is fucking nuts. Standing up or sitting/laying is excruciating. Is this temporary while muscles develop or did I fuck something up? Im starting from nothing pretty much.

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>>41975510
Nothing today father

>>41976804
And then fix it.

That's the thing that bugs me about fat acceptance. You shouldn't hate your body, but you should acknowledge that it is unhealthy and you should work to fix it. Problems aren't evil, they're just problems. Loving yourself is different from deluding yourself into beliving obesity isn't a dangerous medical condition.

>>41975646
dannon triple zero

>>41975646
I've started eating Greek yogurt. I like the texture, but unsweetened its just too sour. Any brand recommendations that are a bit milder, or suggestions to take the edge off?

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>>41976804

Inspirobot gets too real sometimes.

>>41975786
Hot.

>>41976804
I was, now I'm just obese

>the discord is just filled with normie neverfats who are talking about their wives, families, and boyfriends

dont even waste your time, guys

>>41976902

>hahaha silly boys i'm 10 pounds overweight, please all fawn over me, /fat/ is definitely for mee~

>>41975381
When does the cut stop feeling like hell.

>>41976902
That's 4chan in general. Hopefully they drown.

>>41976261
so your partner is incapabe of regulating his body and health and instead of seeing it as a red flag you figure you should move in and sign a housing contract and get pregnant soon im sure. idiots like you think people will change when you "move in". just stop.

>>41976902
I could've told you that. We talk about fit stuff here, in this thread. That's the whole point of it.

>>41976925
When embrace it. This isn't temporary. Paying attention to what you eat is how you live now.

Eating things you love in moderation is helpful too, though.

>>41976925
A cut shouldn't feel like 'hell'. Are you keeping on top of your macros?

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>>41976932
it wasnt always like this...

>>41976925
never, i miss bulking and eating at maintence

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>>41976946

>the whole point of a thread specifically for fat people losing weight is for normie neverfats to talk about shit

you have to go back

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>>41976925
Stretch your meals out and eat more filling things. A lot of veggies are low calorie but really filling. What are you cutting at/your tdee?

>>41976418
>>41976448
He's memeing you, someone in the last thread said the upper bf% limit for abs is around 14%, so you'll definitely see them at 10-12% bf, assuming you have developed abs. You should start doing ab exercises if you don't already do them.

>>41976949
I'm a retard I just looked again I under ate a lot. Daily is 1600 and I ate 760 and I'm missing some protons.

Whoops

>>41977018
Chicken and broccoli

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>>41976902
The people shitting up the discord are the same namefags on here. was fine this morning then there was an influx.

>>41976042
Just find the calorie and enter in an overestimation of what you think you ate.

I got two sacks of pinto beans. One says 100 calories per 1/4 cup and the other says 70 calories per 1/4 cup. Same protein and everything else. What the fuck?

>>41975381
how much fat is too much?
today's macros: 96g protein, 105g carbs, 84g fat (33 above, 19 saturated, 20 poly, 34 mono, 0 trans), 365mg cholesterol (65 above)
calories: 1200
have yet to have my 2nd shake, which is 26g protein, 7g carbs, 2g fat, and 150 calories.
bodyweight: 170-ish, bf% 15-16

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>>41976798
I do the ones from pic related AFTER running or cycling, each one for a minute. Same stretches in article form: https://phrakture.github.io/starting-stretching.html
Additionally, I do hamstring stretches by lying on the ground, and using a belt to pull my extended leg towards my body, and I do standing calf stretches like this: http://www.runnersworld.com/sites/runnersworld.com/files/styles/slideshow-desktop/public/straight_legps.jpg?itok=rcZXbkxM
This one has a set of dynamic warm-up stretches at the bottom, I do these BEFORE running: https://phrakture.github.io/molding-mobility.html

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>>41975510

Downed a sausage roll and a greek yogurt parfait at Starbucks. Had to take mom out for breakfast and I couldn't say no to her. Gonna compensate for this with an extra gym day, good thing my chest and leg DOMS are gone

>>41977175
your mom looks unironically like a thicc milf. post more senpai

>>41976977
How did you fuck up reading comprehension so badly?

My point was that this thread is on topic, the discord was always going to be off topic bullshit because this is the core of discussion.

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>>41977239

>>41977064
honestly I did eventually find it on mfp

>came out to about 600 cal, 70g protein
>based billmillers
>done for the day and 200 under

Fucking good day.

Can I do SS and C25K at the same time? Should I alternate days?

HOW TO GET RID OF SKINNYFAT FAT?

6'1" BUT WEIGH 165LBS SKINNYFAT

FUCK!

IS THERE A PILL? AM I NOT EATING RIGHT? WTF IS GOING ON?

>>41977471
Its just how your body works. There's no magic bullet. Keep working at it, keep building muscle.

>>41977471
build muscle

>>41975938
eating small meals a day really causes insulin spikes?

Are people who are eating 500 less than maintenance able to keep on lifting? I'm afraid I'll be too weak to even hit the same numbers, let alone increase my lifts

>>41977482
I've never heard that before. Maybe if you're pre-diabetic.

If that were an actual issue, you'd think they'd be common warnings against it. For normal people insulin use shouldn't be a concern.

>>41977503
Eat at 500 cal deficit and I hit the gym 6 days a week. You may not increase your numbers but that shouldnt stop you from lifting

>>41977503
yes, especially the novices and the obese. i'm on a ~1000 calorie deficit and still making (slow) gains

>>41977481
>>41977478
alright, thank you anons

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>152kg down to 147kg after 3 days of nothing but water
I shouldn't have looked at the scales, but is it going to stay at this rate or slow down after a while?

>>41977568
100% will slow down, but youre pretty heavy so you should be losing a lot for a while. The key is sticking to it

>>41977513
Damn. Well that's encouraging. Thanks. Good luck on your progress.

>>41977568
Just about all of that is water weight which will puke back on the moment you start eating again

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>>41975381
>6'2
>171 lbs
How the fuck do I learn to cook? I'm too fucking scared of spilling shit or burning myself.

>>41977834
Watch youtube to learn basics, cheaper than a class. Wear an apron when cooking. Also don't spill shit and don't touch hot stuff. Then you won't burn. Idjit.

>>41977834
use utensils while cooking. a spoon or spatula when cooking blobs of stuff (beans, rice, eggs), or tongs if cooking something solid (meats, other large objects).

>>41977834
Also, you're totally going to spill shit on yourself, burn yourself, and cut yourself. Badly. Make peace with it.

>>41977239
Dude no

everyone is crawling out of the woodwork to give me dieting advice to make sure I don't turn anorexic

lord knows they're experts in excess nutrition, but I'm the only one in a 10 mile radius who's lost a significant amount of fat and I'M the one who needs help
christ, I wasn't prepared for this

>>41977396
dude i had bill millers yesterday, fried chicken and their chunky fries, so good

>>41976273
Okay I'll accept the label but not the calories unless you weighed it.

>>41977958
Just brush them off, my coworkers do the same shit
>oh anon you dont need to count calories just watch your carbs and sugar
>why dont you have some breadsticks anon?
>if you dont have any of these cinnamon sticks ill feel guilty cause Im the only one eating them anon ablo abloo abloo

Fuck em, youre on a mission

>>41978007
damn straight
I know they mean well... I think.

>>41977834
By stop being a little bitch and not worrying if you mess up

>>41975613
Don't do that to yourself anon, it just leads to misery. If you're anything like most people eating sub 1000 for sustained periods is probably going to trigger binge mode later on. Which is real fucking hard to get rid of

>>41975381
Hi /fat/, I'm slacking on the exercice but my eating habits / calorie intake is on deck.

I dont exercice as much because I hired a trainer and she is making me do these fucking meme cardio exercices that makes me hate working out, as opposed to glorious strength training.

I find it hard to motivate myself to go... there is no reliable scale at the gym.
I think it would be easier to track my progress if I had a scale.

Could you guys recommend me an accurate scale that can go up to over 320 lbs and isnt too expensive? My budget is probably 100-150$ CAD

My last weigh in was 320 lbs, but my dad is about 360 and im trying to get him to lose weight, so if theres one that allows such weight it would be nice too.

Thanks

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>Went from 200 to 190 in the last month

Am I losing weight too fast?

>>41978078
Literally no such thing. Lose.

>>41978078
>2.5lbs/week

No, a little over normal but nothing crazy

>>41978073
Not related to your question, but don't stress out about exercise. It helps you lose weight, but it is not the end-all-be-all. Your diet is far more important. Those pounds will shed regardless.

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>>41978073
>$100-150
I have a $40 Costco weight watchers digital scale made by conair that is just as accurate as the beam scale at the gym. Rated up to 400lbs of lard.

>>41978073
Your mistake is finding the wrong trainer.

Tell her what you want - no cardio memes, you want to lift. She should support what *YOU, HER CLIENT* wants. If she doesn't want to do that, then fire her and get another one.

>>41977471
I'm 2 pounds lighter than you at the same height, but I have no trouble losing weight. I do OMAD 5 days a week and my calorie intake is between 1000-1500 on those day, plus I do cardio 4 times a week. If you are mostly concerned about fat in one area in your body, e.g. your stomach, you probably don't see differences because you lose weight from other parts too. I have a lot of fat on the back of my thighs below my butt, for example.

>>41978073
>I don't exercise as much because...

Bullshit.

You know the exercise you want. Start doing it. If your trainer isn't helping you do what you want fire them. If you aren't interested in cardio, don't do it.

You know you want strength training. Do that.

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>tfw broken cellphone so I have nothing to keep me entertained during cardio
Guess I'll start getting good at chin ups instead while I wait for my replacement to arrive

>>41977568
You probably lost a bit more than 1 kg of fat in those three days if we assume your TDEE is a bit below 3000 calories, and the weight loss will obviously slow down, because there is only so much water weight you can lose.

>>41978218
>OMAD 5 days a week
this ?
http://www.omad.info/p/how-to-eat-omad.html

how do you have energy for the day to work/school etc? is it all energy drink/caffeine?

>>41978201
My friend used to go to a pet food store chain. I forget what one, but they had a big scale to measure your dog. He was over 400lbs.

>>41978073
>I don't want to do these exercises because <insert excuses here>
Very nice mentality anon, definitely gonna make it. She probably makes you do "meme" cardio exercises because you can't do the usual ones because of the high risk of injury due to you weighing 320+ lbs. Also, cardio burns more calories, so it's probably more beneficial at the current stage of your weight loss, you can worry about lifting once you drop like 50 lbs.
As for the scale, you can probably get any digital one. I once looked up how accurate scales are, and found some random study where they tested different scales and found that the digital ones are fairly accurate, while the mechanical ones are a bit worse, but not too bad. Accuracy isn't even the most important thing, it doesn't matter if your scale is off by 4 pounds as long as it is consistent and you can see your progress over the months. I have a shitty mechanical one, and while it is probably not accurate, it is consistent.

Guys.
I have been exercising a lot. I went from not being able to run a mile to being able to run for 30 minutes continuously. I went from 10 pushups max to 35 pushups in a minute. But I'm not losing weight. Why is dieting so fucking hard? I'll do well for a few days then I'll get this urge to binge. And then I do and ruin a week of being healthy. Fuck me.

>>41978112
Thanks for the encouragement, i just feel like im going to lose gains on this endurance cardio fullbody shit
>>41978201
Ill try to look it up, thanks!
>>41978204
I did, she gave me some weird shit instead. I meet her every 3rd week or something. Im going to tell her that i hate it. I was doing olympic weightlifting and i loved it so i asked for something more oly related, but this is random bs thrown together. I cant go back to my old oly gym due to shitty time restrictions for now so i thought i could work something out there.
>>41978225
I figured id give a go to her program, see if it brings results. I will tell her i dislike it though, i fucking loathe going to the gym now because of it. Thanks

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>weigh-in day is tomorrow
>might finally have a BMI under 35

>>41975510
I ate a plain baked potato

>>41978382
You aren't eating shit you like. Find healthy food you like, and work very small amounts of bad food into your calories as a treat.

I eat one square of chocolate everyday. I don't binge because I know I'll eat something nice in the evening.

>>41976855
Mix it with honey and it makes a pretty good dipping sauce.

>>41978339
Yeah, one meal a day. It's really not that hard, but it's probably not even necessary for you, I just put out there because it worked for me.
I don't feel weak or lacking energy, so I don't need any of that energy drink bullshit, after all, I do get a reasonable amount of calories, it's just in one meal. I'm a shutin right now, so I don't have to worry about school, but it's not like I wouldn't be able to sit in a lecture and take notes just because I only eat once when I am perfectly able to do a fair amount of cardio.

>>41978368
Nice mentality yourself there friendo, way to be a negative shitter. Despite being a fat cunt ive been working out for about 3 year (although in a half assed manner) and i got decently strong. Max stats are 205/295/385/385 and i got good mobility/flexibility. Nothing to write home about but still a good base. I genuinely like working out, but i just hate this program i got now. I understand cardio is good, but keep the weight lifting's main focus to grow stronger and do cardio on the side. Not shit tier exercices that will make you lose gains + cardio.

Also thanks, ill probably get a digital scale then. Its more about the weight limit that worries me, accuracy can be a bit off as long as its consistent as you said

>>41975646
Yoghurt has more sugar then protein, even the unflavoured nonfat ones.
See the light and eat Quark or hungarian turo.

>net calories: -905
I normally stick between -350 and -500, but once in a while won't kill me, right?

>>41978499
I was harsh because you just made a generic post about not liking the workouts assigned by your personal trainer, without any detailed explanation. I've read your other post about her giving you retarded shit even after you explicitly asked for a strength program, and it makes sense now.

gonna go oogle myself in the mirror some more

any tips for dropping below 15% bf? I just want to see my abs bro.
for reference 6'3 185lb
i lift 4 days a week and walk 4-5 for at least an hour.
I eat around 1800-1900kcal a day and things have been great for the past couple of months, but I feel like Im not making much fat loss progress. Should I just start doing more intense cardio? That would be tough because I have a few physical limitations

>>41978440
interesting stuff, thanks. i have heard of people doing such things, but never knew they formally called it such.

when do you work out and when do you eat?i usually work out early in the morning. i might be able to make my main meal in the evening, and survive on tea/decaf coffee during the day.

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I'm a little over today. Oh well. Still lifted. Got to cut the grass tomorrow anyway, which should make up for it.

>>41975992

HEY HEY HEE HEE I MAKE POOH POOHS AND PEE PEES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJP8J84vzTA

>>41978584
I wake up at twelve because I stay up till 4 am, and then eat after doing the usual morning shit. I ride my bike at around 6-8 PM, because it's too hot and windy earlier in the day, and I don't want to do it later, since it sucks to ride in the dark. I do HIIT once a week at 10 PM, because the nearby running track is empty at that time, and I don't want to have people around thinking I'm an idiot because I sprint for 20 seconds and then walk for a minute, repeated 15 times.

>>41978550
what are u doing in terms of workout and what are you eating?
water fasting?

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>>41978679
>and I don't want to have people around thinking I'm an idiot
what do you care what others think ?
read Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman

>>41978679
thanks, man. i will give it a shot, i have been trying to lose this little amount of weight for the longest time.

>>41978731
It would be really uncomfortable if my one minute resting period expired just as a runner is about to pass me, because then I would have to outrun them, and they would think that I'm some sort of jackass who can't deal with other people being faster than them. And it's not like I can just wait a few more seconds, because that would totally fuck up my workout.

>>41978726
Bodyweight routine on weekdays, upper MWF with legs/core T/Th. Mix of walking and running 30-45 minutes per day, weekdays. I work 20-30 hours per week stocking shelves in a grocery store. It's not grueling, but I'm on my feet, standing, walking, squatting, lifting boxes, etc. Because of this and the bodyweight stuff, I put my TDEE on one step above sedentary.

Today I had oatmeal, two eggs scrambled, and a slice of fat free cheese for breakfast, a 2.5oz packet of tuna and 100 calories of cashews for a snack/lunch, ground turkey with black beans, rice, and broccoli for dinner. Oh and now I'm having some vodka with raspberry seltzer water. It all came out to 1400 calories.

I'm 900 calories under my deficit in MFP. Considering drinking 2 scoops with milk to meet my protein and get a little closer to my carb allowance. Only fat free milk though because mom believes in momscience.

Should I do it or just keep my deficit where it's at? (TDEE-1200)

>>41978767
surely they would notice the pattern of run walk run
. . . . but why cant you extend your rest peroid . i thought that what mattered the most was going hard ?

>>41978796
Save the deficit for tacos tomorrow.

>>41978826
Yeah you're right. It's already 930 anyways, I don't want to stay up too late. But tacos are for the weak

>>41978784
i could see you burning off what you ate but burning off 1400 that you ate plus 900 cals means you burned 2300 cals by working out. idk that just doesnt seem right. maybe if you were running for 4 hours straight.

>>41978855
>175 pounds
>gives me ~1900 based on sedentary
>tells me ~2300 based on "seated all day," which is what I have mine set to

>>41978815
I would probably have to extend it multiple times, and that could make it really annoying.
I don't use a stopwatch btw, I use an audio track that I put together in audacity for timing. There is a minute of silence, then a text-to-speech voice says the # of the run, like "one" or "twelve", then there is a loud beep followed by twenty seconds of a 500 something Herz sine wave, and then another beep marks the end of the sprint. Obviously, it would be harder to extend the rest period when I use an audio track for timing.

>>41978842
>But tacos are for the weak
I'm on a cut and eat tacos like once or twice a week.

3 large flour tortillas
Red pepper
Onion
1 tbls olive oil
Chicken or costco steak ums

Gets me about 1000 to 1200 calories.

>>41978726
>>41978855
By -900 net calories, that nigga means 900 kcal below TDEE, and not literally burning off all he ate and some more.

>>41978883
oh. net is how many your at after you subtract calories burned. say i eat 500 cals then burn 1000 cals id be at -500 net on mfp. if i eat 1000 then burn 500 id be at 500 net.

>>41978767
For what it's worth, absolutely nobody but you would give a shit.

Also, that would happen once. Anyone jogging or running will blow past you as soon as you go back to walking. There's no way you spring fast enough for such a short period to catch up after a minute of walking.

>>41978867
>twenty seconds of a 500 something Hertz sine wave
your setup is pretty neat, but you might want to take the 500 Hz pure sine wave out, that can really hurt your hearing

These hunger pangs kinda feel good

>>41978907
Well yeah but it would probably bother at least some runners, not necessarily for the reasons I mentioned, just in general, and it doesn't really matter anyway, when I can just go at night and avoid all that shit.

>>41978924
The fuck? I'm not blasting that shit on max volume into my ears, I'm not retarded.

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>>41978882
I love my fajitas!

>>41976090
A A Are you me anon, I'm literally close to 70kg at same height and weight from 90kg...I think I'm going down to 60-65kg then recomb to 15% at 120 lbs lean mass for what that is worth.

There anyone from AL? I need to join a new gym. A bit of advice or insight would be helpful.

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yo, how do I develop the outside of my arm? the inside of my biceps are coming along but the outside still looks like shit

pic related its the part i want to develop more

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>>41978417
you know what you have to do now

>kys

>>41976902
yeah but seriously, sometimes I feel like 90% of the people in this thread are barely overweight and that's it. where's all my super obese bros at? 300lbs+ report in!

>>41975510
I don't actually work out.

What's your guys cardio workout? I usually do half an hour in total with 10 mins on bike, treadmill, and stair master. I'm thinking about going for 15 mins instead.

Been lifting/dieting for about 6 weeks now. I cut my calories hard and have been training my ass off and didn't real feel too hungry/tired until this week. I've straight up felt like exhausted shit this week.

Then I did my lifts today, noticed my arms were bigger (thank god for noobie gains), my man titties are slowly going back to normal chest mode and my gut has gone down more than i give credit for.

Motivation is back on track

>>41979412
treadmill to failure
that was years ago

>>41976821
stop sucking up to father

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I got diarrhea how do I get rid of it my tummy hurts and I'm just shitting liquid I need help. My tummy fucking hurts any help appreciated.

>>41979412
I play basketball, but that's because I find any cardio on a machine increadible boring

>>41979475
but i want daddy to love me

>>41979262
You can actually go to gyms and look around them before you sign up.

>>41979126
>I think I'm going down to 60-65 kg
>60
Holy shit, I thought I was skinnyfat incarnate, but this is another level. Joking aside, you probably won't have to go down to 60, 65 will do the job.

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I'm getting really tired of seeing this. I nearly reach all of my macros, show me my loss

reee

>>41979308
>outside of my arm
You mean your triceps?

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>>41979575
There's a few near by definitely. The only issue I still lack a lot of personal drive. Yes I can cut calories by cutting intake. I can make myself walk more by parking farther from the store and walking through the entire place. But i joined one of those pay monthly gyms and fell of the band wagon, after the middle of the second month. Kinda wanted to find someone to rove wrong or impress.

>>41976312
Do you find that you are able to talk to girls better without alcohol now that you've lost weight?

this is probably a retarded question but here goes:

what's the consensus on eating below your BMR? I'm 5'5 and 220 lbs. I'm exercising 3 days a week and I walk a lot at work. My TDEE with a 500 cal deficit puts me at 1930 daily. This feels like too much. What would happen if I ate 1700 daily?

>>41975646
>>41976855
Light and Fit Greek Yogurt by Dannon
>80 calories 12g protein

>>41979631
>1000-1200 for women
>1200-1500 for men
What if you're a demigender birdkin and you only need 50 calories of seeds a day?

>>41979788
You'd lose weight faster. That's more than enough calories to function normally.

I'm your same height and was 220 last month, down to 210 now. I've been eating 1500 or less for weeks now (and exercising for months) with no trouble.

If you start to feel weird or something you can always just up your calories.

>>41979788
you'd lose weight.
I go by BMR because I like to be safe within my limits.
11 months on and still smooth sailing.

>>41975638
I've lost 100lbs but can easily shovel 10000 calories down my throat a day, easily.

>>41979875
I'm probably lighter than matt stonie now but I'd eat that skinny runt under the table

>>41979491
You sound like a fluffy. Get some levomycetin.

>>41978078
>>41978103
How much is too fast? I've lost 9 pounds in three weeks.

i need some advice regarding how to train myself to not impulsively eat, especially when i'm not hungry

i left a chocolate covered peanutbutter granola bar on my desk that i'd usually eat in a bite or two without thinking and so far i've resisted the urge

>>41979308

Hammerhead curls, but make sure you're pushing your shoulders back and your chest out.

>>41979986
If it's your first three weeks that's normal. If you're real fat that's normal. And if you're not super fat, it's still normal to lose weight in spurts. Don't worry about it unless it turns into something like 50 pounds over 2 months or whatever.

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>tfw bitch tits are finally disappearing

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Damn it. Couldn't resist my tuna stash. Add another 300 calories to the day.

>>41978586

>>41980035
Started with 247lbs at 6"1. Not much cardio but lifting for at least 4 times a week, I'm also fighting my mayonnaise addiction and abandoned friday's regular beer and chips.

>losing weight
>mom wants to give it a try
>go shopping
>she brings home 10 different sweets and snacks
>see sister (who always yo-yo diets) eating a cheese cake

Any other fats here just absolutely disgusted at the things they used to eat too? Even if I question a food at this point I just put it in MYP and realize it's unhealthy as shit

>>41975510

How do I stop all of my bonus eating? Whenever I cook, I also pick at whatever I'm cooking until what I've cooked is done. I know that adds so many extra calories, but I struggle to kick the habit.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU SURVIVE ON 8000KJ A DAY?
A PACK OF FUCKING MI GORENG IS 2000 AND AFTERWARDS I FEEL LIKE I DIDNT EAT ANYYTHING

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>>41980062
They'll be back.

>>41977175
post your mom i want to see your mom

>>41980084
texas roadhouse always brings rolls to where i work. looked it up in mfp and each buttered roll was like 350 cals. some of that shit is surprising

>>41980089
How about you eat healthier, nutrient dense food instead. My dinner was chicken and broccoli (about 600 cal) and I couldn't even finish it, and all I had the rest of the day was 6 eggs

>>41980088
Watch that UK show secret eaters. They address this exact problem in a few of the episodes including tips to beat it.

>>41980089
Those noodles have 200 calories not 2000.

>>41980100
Yeah I was really tempted to get chipotle (1300 calories) or subway (900 calories) tomorrow but when I saw their stats in MFP I decided I'll just continue eating at home tomorrow

>>41980112
1. They have close to 500
2. That poster comes from some 3rd world country where they measure their food in Kilojews because fuck consistency so the poster is complaining that he can't get full on 2000 calories

>>41980119
if you got a bowl with no sour cream/guac/cheese id bet their calories are pretty friendly

>>41980134
I'm not a compromising person. It's either burrito or no go

>>41979630
I'm overshooting at 60 and 65 is a good middle ground. I've noticed that the bmi scale is shit since I do look good with clothes on. Just I'm on a mission to be athletic built at ~14% bf because I have some ppl I need to rub it into their face that I can make it. Currently I'm away from uni on vacation, and have a good 2 months B4 I can gym again. So I'm doing bodyweight stuff to keep as much muscle as I can. 10lbs loss is much noticable at a lower weight. So I might be happy with 65 kg...

>>41980134
>if you got a bowl with no sides then
So a bowl of meat? Fuck that's like 8$

>>41980157
beans, salsa, chicken, rice, veggies.
tmsounds tasty to me

>>41980020
Honestly, the most important factor is probably time, like for breaking any other habit. I don't think actively tempting yourself is a good route, you should just stop eating when you catch yourself doing it impulsively, and you will get rid of your shitty habit after a few months.

>>41980062
iktfb
>tfw the titties are on their way out but the fupa ain't going anywhere
>90+ pounds down and not an ounce missing from the baseball sized lump constricting my benis
I wish I didn't know this one though

>>41980215
That sucks. I'm basically the opposite from you, still got the tits, but I've gained over an inch after losing 80 pounds

>>41975381

Ate cheesecake for breakfast... Feel sick. Don't care.

Why???

Been to gym 5 times this week for 2-3 hour sessions. Kitchen is starting to look like preppers with high protein + I bought my first 70% protein powder and shaker.

Don't care about cheesecake breakfast. Haven't bought biscuits in 2 months... No crisps in house... No ice cream in freezer... No sugary drinks in house... No high sugar fruits like strawberries... No sweets... Low carbs in diet... No cereal... just oats.

Friendly reminder that you will lose weight faster if you put on some muscle because your TDEE will be higher. Plus you expend calories to gain muscle... Plus you get stronger. Plus if your scale doesn't move you can be sure your fat is still going down.

>>41980089
Nobody measures in KJ anon, not even the Germans who invented it. Joule is for physics, not fatties.

>>41980127
200 calories to kj equals 837 kj not 2000.

>>41980250
>>41980089
>mi goreng is 2000kj
>2000jk = 478kcals

>>41980233
>No high sugar fruits like strawberries

a pound of strawberries and a pound of broccoli have the same calories.

Agree with you otherwise.

>>41980260
There are different ones. The most I see is 1620kj

Some are much less.

>>41980222
If it's gone by the time I hit 15% bf then it's a blessing really, dick gains are a good motivator.

>>41975611
Yes calculate your tree

>>41975611
>>41975630
>>41980309

Not the person you're replying to, but what are plateaus?

Lets say my TDEE is 3,000 and I switch to 2,500, lose weight, then down to 2,000, then down to 1,500

At a certain point, you can't go any lower, or would you be at a healthy weight before one gets to that point?

6'3
83 kilos
I hate how fat I've become

>>41978867
How about pressing the pause button and scrolling back to the start of the run number.

>>41980337
If you don't lose any weight after 2 months of eating 1500 calories a day I think it'd be fair to say you are at a 'healthy' weight.

Every time someone here posts that they've plateau'd or are stagnating while eating much less than their TDEE it's one of 3 things.
1. water weight or shit, which will go away after awhile
2. not waiting long enough to see results on the scale, which will go away after awhile
3. They are eating more than they think.

4th ultra rare option. they are gaining muscle at an equal rate of fat loss

breakfast - spinach soy cantaloupe pomegranate ginger smoothie ???
lunch - cup of black garbanzo bean curry
probably gonna eat out in the evening. chicken hummus salad.

>>41980356
I have pressed the pause button in the past when I walked past normos, but scrolling back after the beep is impossible, since I use a shitty old mp3 player, because it would be kinda awkward to run around with a big bulky phone in my pocket.

>>41979823
>demigender birdkin
keek

>>41979374
>barely overweight
that's still fat you know. And we all have the same goal - not to be fat. So lets just share the space and continue to love each other like we always do.

>>41980397
I tend to wear a zip up hoodie over my shirt, if you leave it unzipped stuff won't fall out of your pockets and nike hoodies come with little phone sized pockets on the inside of the pockets, so it won't fall out.

>>41976489
Fucking tell her

>>41980463
I may actually get a hoodie with an inner pocket, because it'd be nice to use those meme running apps. Too bad I can only wear a hoodie while running without dying from the heat for like three months a year.

Best light thing to get from Subway?

>tfw getting back to banana oatmeal, coffee, and protons after a stressful week of eating fucking shit
i fucking love oatmeal goddamn. My body actually feels good after eating it unlike when I eat shitty food
Getting back on the cutting train fellas, hoping for normal BMI by the time college begins in the fall

Yo /fat/bros, I want to start the next /fat/ thread. When is it acceptable to start it? When this one reaches 300+?

>>41980498
Yes. Once the bump limit is hit.

>>41980492

A 6" turkey I guess would be fine. Don't think subway is healthy or good for you. It's a fast food chain just like burger king or mcdonalds

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thread is kill

>>41980520
Of course, im just in a rush tonight and wanted to get something that isnt going to throw me off too far.

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>can't get skinnier without being auschwitz
>really don't want to lift
limbo

NEW THREAD
>>41980655
POST YOUR FATFEELS OVER THERE

>>41980655
>>41980655
>>41980655

>>41975510
Haven't gone to the gym in 5 or 6 days.
only have 4 of my abs left.

>>41975510
I haven't lost any weight in 2 days despite eating less than 1600 both days. I also haven't had a bowel movement because Kratom constipates me really badly. Is the weight just all the shit building up?

>>41975786
I'd call you cute but you're in a /fat/ thread so I know you're just a fat dwarf and not a petite Asian beauty.

>>41980687
>>41980373

If I go over my TDEE one day, will I be able to make up for going over but simply eating under the following day?

I had a big steak dinner tonight so I'm hoping skipping lunch tomorrow will take care of that.

>>41975510
Drank 1,5 L dry red yesterday
Skipped dinner

never gona make it

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Holy shit. I was about to give up on oatmeal until you guys told me to put peanut butter in it.
How does so little peanut butter make the whole thing taste so much better?
I think I'm gonna make it, thanks /fat/

Am I supposed to lift every day, or do I take rest days?

>>41981747
Take it to the QTDDTOT, not here.

>>41975510
Got Dunkin Donuts bacon egg n cheese with a small coffee.

I will get protons later from shake sorry father. No more food.

>>41980084
>>41981918
I use to drink a lot of soda now I can't stomach it at all. I feel queasy just watching others drink it now.