/fat/ - Got Gyno? Edition

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>tfw doing IF and hungry at 8:30AM

>>41947227

day 24 of 30
currently 103 kilos down from 108,

been running 5k in 27 minutes, down from half an hour when i started.
can finally do pullups. only 5 though.

i doubt i'll get to 100 in the next 6 days, but at least i didnt lose any muscle.

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CONFESS MY CHILD

>eat breakfast for about 600-900 calories
>fast until 6PM
>drink a 6 pack of beer before bed

who else on that 1500 calorie life?

>>41947245
how many days in?

Time to do wall push ups fatties, roll

>>41947258
>beer

you srs. ethanol metabolism slows down fat metabolism

>>41947270
roll for proper pushups

>>41947270
>wall pushups

no thx, will roll though

>>41947278
it's a marathon not a race, 1500 cals is 1500 cals however you wanna slice 'em.

tfw been cutting for so long (over 8 months tracking calories daily) , that dieting has becoming your new normal

>>41947278
>>41947280
didn't know that /fat/ can do regular push ups, nice

>>41947284
its not that.

the liver proceses both ethanol and fat.
the enzymes required for both are similar, meaning when its processing ethanol and the metabolites, it cant process any fat.

so while the body is getting rid of ethanol, you arent fat burning.

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>>41947269
Been doing it a month. It never gets easier for me.

>>41947278
>you srs. ethanol metabolism slows down fat metabolism
but muh cico

>>41947294
im only 108kilos lol.

>>41947290
Yep.

I don't know what happened, but my 250~ day streak got erased from MFP.

If anything it just motivated me to track it even better.

>>41947249
I was tired and got taco bell last night after work.
Put me over my calorie limit and I woke up feeling like shit.
Make it right father

>>41947278
pls

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>First morning without coffe

>>41947297
seems like they're not working at the same time though.. When I'm awake, actively drinking, I'm pissing every hour, so that would be the 'ethanol', and then I sleep and my body takes care of the 'fat'.

>>41947306
Well i forgot to lift while bulking so i ended up with weak dyel arms

>>41947249
I've been eating like shit the last little bit.
I've started biking to work (11km each direction) but I've only been able to do it once a week.
I want to change but I've been so weak recently.

>>41947297
>>41947301
i try to follow things that scientifically make sense. so for me its a combo of cico and metabolism since i figure caloric intake and body metabolism are the two things that matter most to weight loss.

speaking of which, any non-broscience metabolism tips?

>>41947508
eat less

>>41947249
someone should make a father wojak for other religons
>hindu wojak
>CONFESS INSTANCES OF KARMIC DEBT

>>41947519
>eat less
>falling for the eat small, get small meme
lad

>>41947528
Confession is mostly a catholic thing, isn't it?

>>41947528
fucking why

>>41947544
>>41947554
i meant it as a joke guys, just to keep the meme fresh and tasty

>>41947356
anon, for some reason, I haven't drank coffee or tea for like a month now. And I don't know why. It just so happened that I don't feel like it anymore. I'm glad I did, I used to be a heavy drinker (at my worst 2-4 cups of coffee a day + 5-8 cups of tea a day). Now I just drink water.
You'll be alright, just keep occupied and don't think about it. At least for me, I didn't feel a need for it maybe because I simply forgot about it.

>>41947278
Did you do your 78 proper push ups, fatty?

Jesus Christ I hate this fucking depression. Shit just hit me and I end up being drunk for most of the day.
I mean, at least I never go above my TDEE but it's still fucking horrible.

>>41947604
I think my depression is why I'm always so tired.

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>>41947604
>>41947636
you guys should ask for an endocrinology report. Could be hormonal, like a thyroid problem or adrenal fatigue. Good luck.

>plateaued this week
>remained at a constant 231.6 despite sticking to diet
>monday weigh in drop 1.0 pounds
>today weigh in drop 1.6 pounds
>finally cracked the 230 barrier
Yay I guess? Anybody else experience this?

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>>41947690
I plateaued for 2 weeks. My own fault tho. Finally lost a kilo this week.

It's a marathon and not a sprint. The way I see it.

>>41947247
Its retarded how much more concerned I've been with muscle than weight loss. Still losing weight but I'm madder when I can't add more weight in the gym one week than of I lost less than I thought.

Being physically stronger is becoming more addictive. Feels better too.

>>41947670
Thank you. I've already had that done. I'm fine if you look at the data/blood work. I haven't checked testosterone, which might be an issue, especially since I haven't been horny and have had some trouble staying hard during faps. I'm too young for it to be a vascular problem. Might be related to my fatigue/depression. Not sure.

I don't drink much, I eat well, not even overweight anymore, exercise, have a good sleep schedule. I donno.

T4, Free 1.36 ng/dL (normal is: 0.93 - 1.70 ng/dL)

>order two burgers
>take bottom bun off one
>take top bun off other
>SLAM
dubba the gainz, half the carbz

I'm so scared my weight loss will confirm I have gyno.

>TFW will be thin and still won't take off shirt

>>41947670
My values are perfectly normal, I just don't see my life going anywhere as everything I touch ends up turning to shit no matter what.

Started lifting again after not lifting at all for who knows how long (over 6 months). Just chin ups. I have a really nice set of cables that anchors between the crack of your door. Really works the shit that the pull up bar can't. One day the anchor tore and 50 pounds of cables flew directly into my face. Now I am too scared to use them.

>>41948202
Haven't heard a single story where these meme door bars/cables did not shit the bed.

Get a stand alone rack for your garage or hit the gym.

fat fucks

>>41948486
i'm underweight desu

>>41947249
ate a terribly greasy white pizza with bacon on it this weekend. Fasted all day yesterday tho

>>41947930
>go to store and buy cheap ground meat
>grill with cheese
>No carbs, quarter of the money, all gainz

>>41947554

Because fat poo in loo pajeets are taking over 4chan

>>41948657
>has to do dishes after
>has to cook

hahahahaha

>>41948682
>girlfriend does dishes for me

i want to die

>>41948713
>actually having a gainz goblin

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>>41948719
>>41948682
Why so negative ?

I feel sick lads. My head aches, and I feel like I'm hungry but im nauseous at the idea of consumption. Also I don't want to cook anything. Guess it's time to kill myself like 4chan always told me.

>>41948756
We need more details, anon. Are you intermittent or water fasting?
If so for how long? Have you been supplementing?
Do you have electrolytes, or bone broth available?
If not, you're going to have to break fast.
Feeling a bit of fatigue is normal, but feeling sick is not.

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>skinny fat

>slight man boobs and low ab spare tire

>no puffy nipples

is it gyno or just residual fat?

>>41948887
Look up what fucking gyno is. If it were gyno there would be actual breast tissue; usually a larger, pressure sensitive lump behind the nipple

>>41948911
every person on this board has gyno apparently

How fat is 18% bf?

>>41949060
less fat than me ;_;

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>>41947245
drink some coffee
I'm a ketofag and I fookin love coffee
with half and half and coconut milk
fucking half and half has less carbs than reg milk !
stop drinking sips , they kill

>>41947249
i ate a bowl of leftover mutton biryani today. tried so hard to avoid it the previous night, but gave in today.

>>41949060
Not fat at all.

For people that seem to give a shit about their physique, they'll cycle anywhere from 10% (extreme) to 20% (lacksidasical)

deciding between a bowl of quakers porridge and a turkey sandwich

the porridge is more filling but that turkey needs eating ASAP

which is the priority?

also i feel like i have a confession coming up for tomorrow. i made a mississipi mud pie for my mother's birthday, it's in the fridge right now. managed to make the entire thing without licking spoons and shit. but i know the moment we take it out, i'm gonna give in to all that sugar and butter.

>>41949167

That's not super bad as long as the portion wasn't massive and you kept it in your limit. Unless you're a ketofag, in which case you should kys anyway.

>>41949173

Porridge for lunch, turkey for dinner?

>>41949197
it's 1730
I go to work in an hour so very likely my last meal of the day
fuck it, that turkey will keep for another day, I need carbs

>>41949126
You can't have a sugar free sip on keto?

>>41947270
Rollin

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>>41947227
How bad is a lamb, feta cheese, tomato, cucumber sauce, lettuce Gyro?

I haven't eaten anything else today but I feel pretty full from this thing. It wasn't very big and the takeout I got it from was just some random stand so they didn't have nutritional info. It was about as long as a cellphone and like eh 3 inches tall, more veggie than lamb.

>>41947249
Just binged on 2 cereal bars and a scone + i'm going out tonight with mate so ill be drinking for sure. I think i'm going to start doing cardio

+40, BMI 24.8

>quit drinking 800 calories of alcohol a day
>started walking about 5k a day
>haven't lost anything inches/weight
>been six weeks

Is that normal for absolutely nothing yet?

>>41949518
Did you calculate your TDEE and eating at least burning 500 cals under it? If you haven't been keeping track of this, then you fucked up and are probably still eating like a horse

>>41947690
Yep. Went from 234 plateau of 2 weeks to suddenly 230.

Why is it -500 calories a day? Why not 300 or 700? Why is it not dependent on the TDEE?

>>41947298
It takes more than a month dumbass. You've been fucking over your body for years. Give it time.

>>41949536
>(Large)

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>>41949536
big difference wouldn't you say?

>>41949587
It's just an easy rounded estimation.

They say a pound is equal to 3500 calories, so if you eat at a -500 deficit for 7 days, 7x500=3500, which is a stable progression of losing a single pound a week.

>>41949632
What if you eat at maintenance

But you workout a lot and throughout the week you end up burning much more than 3500..

>>41947290
That's the whole point. Congrats, you're gonna make it brah

>>41949518
You eat more because exercising makes you hungrier, assuming you don't count calories. If you "think" you don't eat more, but haven't actually recorded your calories, then fuck off. If you do count them, then increase your deficit and ignore the bullshit numbers online TDEE calculators tell you.

>>41949639
>What if you eat at maintenance
That's assuming you've been eating at maintenance, which is doubtful.

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>>41949627
>>41949536
>those tits

>>41949639
That's how you get meme yourself into not losing weight while putting in a lot of work.

Diet is the most important thing, exercise supplements diet.

I had the same mindset for the first month or so and all I did was waste time and energy

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>>41947290

frankly, tracking calorie intake is something that basically every single human should do. there's no downside to it and it's not hard

frankly I think our health standards, at least in America, are all kinds of fucked up. there's no benefit to letting your bf% exceed 10-15% and if you don't immediately take action to get down to that range once you've exceeded it, it just makes the process of getting back down longer and more arduous. better to track the calories while you're at low bf% and never let it get high, right?

and yet I feel like there's substantial social pressure (especially from family, ESPECIALLY from obese family members) against counting calories and having a carefully planned diet, as if it's annoying to other people, or vain or something. can anyone relate?

>>41949639
Sounds like it'll be slow moving progress, but just do what works for you.

Sometimes I'll eat at maitnence and try to lift heavier, other times I'll eat 1k deficit and try to lift even heavier than before.

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>>41949655

>>41949666
My sister bitches at me for making multiple meals at once and storing them in the fridge, even though all she does is make a shit ton of food and just leaves it in the fridge until it expires.

She's also the only one in the house who drinks yet the fridge is constantly full of her booze.

Day 3 of 23:1 Warrior Protein Sparing Moderate Fast

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFUCKINGKILLME

Dropped all the water from MEPS though, which is nice. Back on straight fat loss.

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>>41949285
yeah but a hippie convinced me that chemicals in sips kill

>>41950141
They probably aren't great for you, but we're all going to die anyways, enjoy the sips.

Is it normal that I can't do a pushup? I'm 6'1 and 210 lbs of pure fat. Never exercised after age 7. My dad always tells me to do push-ups but I can't do a single one. My core is very weak and I'm usually dead tired after a day of college. I'm also a wristlet if it matters.

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>>41947249
Nothing today father

does anyone have that wojack where hes asleep dreaming of being fit?

my weight in the morning when I'm dehydrated seems to go down (albeit slowly) week by week, but at any given point during the day it shows the exact same number it has been doing for the past month

which would be good if I was trying to maintain
but I'm not

>>41950272
Weigh yourself after the morning piss before drinking/eating anything, thats the weight you track

>>41949627
>>41949536

Decent progress man. Starting weight and current weight?

That feel when addicted to dieting, nutrition, calorie-counting and low food intake in general. I never though this nutrition thing could grow into some kind of hobby. I used to be happy when I would indulge in sweets or pastries, and take out food. Now it feels like fucking heaven when I walk away from that, it feels like my body is saying "wow, thanks"

>feel like I have to shit
>can't
Thanks, OMAD.

With all the talk about diet soda on here, why does no one drink carbonated water? It feels like pop and can be flavored with limes, mint, whatever you want, has no bullshit chemicals or additives. It's literally just a little c02 to make it bubbly. It doesn't dehydrate you like diet soda will, and you can have it without fucking up your diet at all.

So why don't more people reccomend carbonated water on here over diet pops?

Dieting really is 90% of the work. Don't even think about exercising if you are obese or fat, just fix your diet, make it look clean and good, and with far less food coming in. That's literally all it takes to see a decline in weight.

Exercise then becomes the icing on the cake and is actually enjoyable, cause you don't have to do it, but you want to.

>>41950466

Bubbles in the drink aren't even that fun / good. The reason why people stick to soda is because it's such a fucking addictive meme that they cannot stop. But yeah; bubbly drinks are a meme and you don't really need em

>>41950378
285-290
Current 269

:)

>>41950471
>been dieting
>post progress
>everyone tells me to lift

You sure it's 90% of the work?

>>41950466
Cause when youve been drinking 6-12 cans of soda a day for 10 years itll be much easier to switch to diet soda first, and then to just water/tea/carbonated water. Theyll see massive progress either way and eventually theyll jsut drop diet soda (at least I did anyways)

>>41950466
Carbonated water is an acquired taste. Shit in Hungary you see it in every restaurant over regular water because it's so popular there.

If you are addicted to the taste soda switching to gas water is not going to do anything to help.

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Lost a lot of weight. And after all that hard work it turns out I actually do have gyno. Couldnt be more depressed right now. Kinda fucking black pilling.

>>41950551
why you worried?

>>41950466
Usually when someone wants a soda substitute, people tell him to fuck off, because weight loss is about changing habits, and not about finding substitutes for them.

>>41950540
Didn't expect to see another Hungarian in this thread.

>>41950584
Not Hungarian, just visited Budapest for like a month.

Would like to go back, life was so cheap there.

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I was thinking to make veggie soup my core meal for mid day

how fuckd i gonna be if i just do that

Morning: Coffe/strawberry shake
Mid day: Veggie soup
Dinnero: Eggs/meat/fish dish

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>>41947249
Been eating pizza and ice cream for the past week now, everyday.

Just went to the doctor and I'm about 280lbs, the heaviest I've ever been.

Any literature/videos/advice from former fatties on how to practice discipline when it comes to eating? I'm weak as fuck mentally and this realization isn't making me want to change anything...

>>41950551
I'm in the same boat. I went from 260 to 180 and realized that not only do I have bi-lateral gyno, but the right one is noticably bigger than the left. All that work to be happy with taking my shirt off just to have something almost worse looking. Surgery is really the only viable option, so I'm saving up. I suggest you do the same.

>>41950220
Can anybody help please?

>>41950638
counting calories worked for me.

just download the app and hide it somewhere so nobody will make fun of you and silently track your progress.


it's so easy to overeat when you're not paying attention, before I was counting, I was putting down 6k calories easy.

>>41950664
Nachos are my guilty pleasure. When I go for my monthly shopping I buy three packs of 2600 calories nachos each and finish them the same day.

>>41950566
Why would'nt I be? I'm forever going to be that guy that wears jumpers in the summer and never takes his shirt(s) off at the beach.

>>41950522

Lifting is the icing on the cake for a lean / muscular body. But for everyone that's browsing this FAT thread, I guarantee you dieting is 90% of the work. Once you lose the excess pounds, or most of them, then you can look to complete your fit plan with constant exercise and lifting.

Lifting when you are 300lbs coming from a diet of mcdonalds is... still ok. But changing the diet until you go under 200lbs is much much better

>>41950660

>is it normal

Who cares. What matters is what's right for you.

Start with wall push-ups. Do that for a few weeks and then come back.

>>41950716
If you don't have the money for the surgery, then fucking start looking for options to make more money or whatever. You have one life, do you really want to spend it crying about your gyno instead of doing something?

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>>41947249
Im starting to enjoy kale. I used to hate it.

>>41950638

Listen. Your body and brain are currently being HIJACKED by tons of chemicals, sugars, fungus and your intestines are a mess. What you put into your body eventually finds its way to your energy, your state of mind, everything.

How the fuck do you turn that around? Introduce healthy shit in your diet, if you don't want to die. Protein, healthy fats, vegetables, just SOMETHING. Something your body can hold on to, to climb to the next step; cut sodas / cut excess fatty shit slowly. Repeat this cycle of giving your body something good and letting go of something that's literally killing you until you are in a better place. You are looking at a 12 month change, but fucking trust me, it's worth it.

>>41950386

>ana b8 is skinny

Nice try. Too many real ones here for you LARPers.

>>41950790


this guy gets it

Before I gain back my weight, I had a good level of muscle and my lifts have only gone up since. I want to retain most of what muscle I have but I want to losing weight faster. Is losing more than 1lb a week a good idea or will it kill what gains I have.

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>get thin
>now I have no boobs
anyone else know this feel?

I just checked out my butt for the first time since I started losing weight four months ago, forty pounds down.

My butt used to look like a gelatinous monster.

Now it's a cute butt.

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>>41950790
I am dude. I'm not gonna give up. If I did I would legit just kill myself Ive just got to stay hopeful and positive however cringey that sounds. Already started working towards a better job now and saving slowly. Just having one of them down days when you feel like a genetic dumpster fire and wanted to cry about it to anons on the internet.

>>41950512

Personally I enjoy it.

>>41950532

I did that, but I could never stomach diet soda, tastes like shit. I like the carbonated water, but I guess that's a personal choice.

>>41950540

That could be true, but you could add stevia to sweeten it alittle at least? Surely that would still be better than diet soda.

>>41950584

>This thing you've enjoyed for years, you can never ever have it again, nor find something to satisfy the craving while not impacting your diet negatively.

You're a fucking retard. You expect people to snap into new habits cold turkey? Not going to happen. Sounds good, doesn't work.

>>41950664
I know that will be a guaranteed method to lose the weight, I just need the self discipline to fucking do it. I have absolutely no self discipline in my life and I hate it. Thanks for the advice!

>>41950814
I appreciate the information...we're you able to make it bro? I wanna make it so badly, but obviously not bad enough cause I'm just slowly killing my self.

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>>41950857
>get thin

I dont know this feel

>>41947249
ate 4,300 calories on sunday

at least it was on a boat trip with cuties and we all went swimming

unfortunately i passed out from all the drink on the sunset cruise back home lol, but a good day all the same

lose another 20 lbs and i may have a chance with said cuties

>>41950919
You'll get then senpai!

>>41950919
>>41950970
there* whoops

>>41950220

Do knee push-ups to start and slowly build up to proper ones. Patience and persistence

>Saturday
>Get high as a kite
>Higher than I've ever been
>Also drink but not enough to get cross faded
>My friend brings a cup in and hands it to me
>down it
>it was root beer
>oh wait no it was rumchata, alcoholic root beer, and vodka in a 8 ounce glass
>Everyone is freaking out because I drank it all
>Everything is a blur
>All I remember is
>rummaging through friends fridge
>grab a whole pizza
>lay down in their bathtub
>eat entire said pizza
>feel like I was going to die for 6 hours straight

But hey at least I didn't gain anything from that whole pizza and stayed at the same weight

>gyno
>need surgery

Do you really though? Aren't there like diets or medicine that helps you revert that shit? anything at all? i'm sure i can across this sort of shit sometime ago...

>be me today
>ate a good size breakfast
>been lifting heavier
>kind of want to eat a good size dinner too

I mean.. I've still got fat to lose.. But, I'm starting to think I should just eat at maitnence and work out instead.

>>41950993
sounds like what i'm gonna do this coming weekend, and by that i mean every night from the 30th to the 4th

>>41951049
If you actually have the glands behind the nipple/tit you do need surgery

If its fat you will know

I have gyno and don't really care about it

I'm rich so I'll get it taken out at lower body fat

The guy up there complain about having gyno is embarrassing as fuck

Can't believe that is the shit people are worried about these days. Pathetic as fuck, that is something you can fix easily for life...

>>41951049
Did you actually get diagnosed?
If not, cut to 10%, if you still have tits go see a doctor and get surgery

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>>41951096
>did you actually get diagnosed?

Well, no I didn't, but I'm kinda curious as to what gyno looks like on a guy, as opposed to just some fat dude with flabs on his chest.

>>41950638
there is no such thing as long-term discipline. there is only routine.

download myfitnesspal and make logging everything you eat your routine.

>>41950887
Good luck anon

Skinnyfat here, 5'9" 164. Should I bulk or cut first? Right now I'm lifting three days a week and running on my off days. I'm trying to eat at about 1700-1800 kcal a day with about 110g protein, is this a decent program to get leaner and stronger and faster?

>read up on what gyno is
>read up that by 25 you're basically gonna have to get surgery
>read up that estrogen levels are what's fucking me up
>be 19
>have 5 years to fix it
>family is more slothful than pigs in the fucking mud
>losing the weight and making some progress but tits show more and more

Man, this is fucking terrible.

>>41951231
Are you 19 right now?

You can actually control your estrogen levels naturally

>be 12 years old
>fat, have bitch tits
>decide to join rugby team
>bullied mercilessly but stick with it
>lose weight
>end up 6'2 170lbs
>tits never went anywhere. flat stomach, c-cups
>it's genuine gyno with actual breast tissue
>sink into depression and drop out of college, suicidal for years
>learn about surgery at age 21
>get it
>freedom

don't fuck about, get the surgery or this shit will ruin your life

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>>41950857
I lost a little less than a cup size I think going down about 8kg for now. But most of what I lost was in my thighs and belly. I suspect by the time I reach my goal (in 5kg) I will have A cups. At least my boobs are still very perky. Must be genetics because I expected them to sag.

people are grilling right outside of my window. Should i call the police? this has to be against the law.

>>41947247
I used to run cross country in HS. Long distance running is super fun, but a waste of time. I lost twice what I was losing when I switched over to sprinting.

>>41951380
that's where I'm at: a cups. I guess the upside is gravity won't get us as we age if we stay thin.

>>41947329
If you want to eat more food, or bad shit, you will have to do extra cardio, my child.

Do an extra 400 calories worth of cardio and you can eat that extra.

>>41950857
post a picture

>>41951382
ahaha anon, this shit happened to me sunday night. My mom had this big party with her friends and they barbecued the whole night. I'm talking chicken, ribs, sausages...
I stayed in my room like an aspie, and then when it was over, instead of eating the meat leftovers I gave them to my cat. There's no tempting me.

>>41951382
pee on them

>>41950857
guys don't give a shit about boobs. they give a shit about thin.

go on any porn site and look at all the dumb whores sucking dick because they're too dumb for college - breasts of every shape and size but every last one of them is skinny as fuck.

don't worry about your boobs. worry about your weight and your face. or be like me and worry about female pattern baldness and alopecia - fun times

Anyone else cold as fuck now that they've lost weight?

I'm 190 from 300 and I am freezing my fucking nuts off day in, day out. Got 2 heaters running in my room right now and I'm in a fleece blanket. That and I live in fuckin' Wisconsin, so I can't imagine this coming winter.

>>41951421
Yes anonette, that's the right outlook to have. Small perky tits > saggy cowtits

What are your stats? Starting weight/Current weight/Goal weight and also a goal body pic if you have one. I'm curious to see what another anonette has in mind for herself, if you feel me.
Also if you really want bigger tits, there's always surgery, which to our standards must be like the reverse gyno of this board, lol!
I mean we don't get as bad of a bullying for small tits, but it's more like a question of personal acceptance in the end.
When I'm ripped and and tight as fuck, I'll see if I need bigger breasts.

>>41950638
I used to be like you. Here is my advice:

>Get MyFitnesspal
you need to track you macros, and this will make it super easy. When you can see the values of what you eat, you will learn regret.

>Practice IIFYM
you can eat dog shit and as long as you stay within your macros, you will lose weight.

>time will make it easier
as you keep eating healthy shit, you will start to enjoy it and hate the greasy stuff your addicted to.

>Lift and do HIIT
or just do some sprinting. Do all the shit above and you will become a better person.

also, try not buying unhealthy shit at the store. If you don't have pizzas in the fridge, you will have to work harder to get them.

Good luck.

>>41951476
this is just wrong, there are tons of morbidly obese porn stars.

>>41951476
fuck anonita, I get where you're coming from.
I agree with the fact that boob size don't matter to guys if you're thin, but what I think is the issue here is more self acceptance rather than others validation. I guess the work has to be done from within, rather than seeking out.
Also really sorry to hear about your female pattern baldness and alopecia, it's not a fun ride I can tell, used to know a girl that had the latter.
But if there's any solace to you, I've been bald as in buzzcutted on lower settings like three times from 18 to 22 because I was a wild slut.
And honestly it was not a bad look, I got a shit ton of compliments everywhere I go, and never was more confident and sexually active.
Just trying to give you some personal perspective, really not trying to diminish what you're going through though. Good luck anonita.

>>41950912
Buddy listen. Stop telling yourself that you have no self discipline. You have discipline and you know it.

Start will some small shit and work yourself up. With the myfitnesspal app all you have to do is either scan a barcode in or look up the food you are eating.

You can do this. Take a deep breath. You're gonna make it.

>>41951114
I got checked for gyno and I don't have it. A lot of my fat goes to my chest. I also bench a lot, so the effect is really perky man tits. Just google Gyno.

>>41951080
>man tits because of medical condition
>Having a bigger chest than some women
>too poor to get surgery
rich people live in a different universe.

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>>41951482
I'm 101lbs and 5' 5" so I guess I'm done losing weight. I guess something like pic related would be ideal, but my boobs are smaller. My tummy and legs I'm finally happy with though.

I've never really considered implants. I'd be afraid of scarring plus when I age maybe they wouldn't age with me well. I want to look coherent in my upper years.

>>41951618
>rich people live in a different universe.

Yea this is true

I've recently learned that not everyone has made the choices in life as others

I've talked to people who can't afford groceries and other comforts of life

I don't understand it anymore, I haven't been broke since I was 25, I've been doing well and have been successful ever since.

Its hard to see other people once you make it and can only think why they haven't do they have the drive? Do they have the fire to succeed or are they waiting for their opportunity?

I never waited for my dreams, I don't understand why others wait

>>41947227

Quick qtddtot:

Can I use stack/bronkaid on my water fast? I've been this first week and am considering dropping

>>41949536
I'D LIKE A LAAAAAAAAAARGE

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>>41951622
Nice anonette, you've done it! It's good that you're content with the general areas you were working on, and oh well, there's not much you can do about breasts if you want to stay natural.
I agree that there are long term consequences to modifying your appearances with implants.
I think you're right about it not aging as well as the rest of your body.
What weight did you start from, if I may ask?

I myself am about 11 pounds away from my goal weight (110 pounds) and started at 140 pounds on May 11th. I am not done though, I will keep lifting until I reach my goal body of picture related (adjusted to my proportions of course).

Anyone /osteoporosis/ here?

Family added the first image of me on Facebook in five years. I was a little embarrassed at first but ran with it, and all that. I got a reply from an old friend I hadn't seen in a year complimenting me on all my weight loss, lost over 100lbs since I last saw that friend.

It was cool man.

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alright, since it's the got gyno edition, do i got gyno /fat/ ?

somewhere between 5'10 and 5'11 and currently 213lbs

>>41951740
I'm 5'11" at 194 and I have bigger tits than you.
You'll be fine

>>41951740
No gyno, just really pink nipples.

Creepily pink. Unsettling in their pinkness.

>>41948014
I know the feel bro. I have no idea what I'm doing with my life, almost feel like I missed a chance with my weight loss, even that could've been a way to lose weight and make some money or something. Spent too long getting my degree, NEETing it up and having no social life, now I have no idea what to do.

>>41951750
usually people comment on my abnormally long and sideways head :^)

>>41951695
I started at 145lbs. :o/ I have some stretch marks, but thankfully not terrible.

Congratulations on your success. You're for sure going to make it! Your goal body is very impressive.

>>41951748
thanks for the feedback

>>41951776
Yeah I have some stretch marks too on my thighs, but they're also not terrible. You can only see them if I sit at a certain angle and my thighs "spread", you know what I mean!
Anyway I am thinking of investing in skin oils to take care of them soon, I am going to do some research about it. So far I've heard of coconut oil, castor oil and flaxseed oil. I might make an infographic for /fat/!
Thanks a lot for your encouragement, I'll still lurk when I will have made it, and will probably post progress pics when I finish cutting, so if you stick around, you might recognize me by my stats!

>>41951820
Yeah, cocoa butter is another one to try. I haven't tried anything yet. I look forward to your infographic and progress pic! I lurk a lot also.

>>41951768
so pink...

>>41951871
thanks for the hot tip, anonette!
I'm thinking I will buy a collection of all these oils, and then review them for a couple of months and make an honest infographic with other sources too, so all fatties here can do damage control on the stretch marks.

>>41947249
Drank 6 cans of beer during the weekend and skipped the gym. I planned to be 85kg by now but I'm 92.5

>>41951480
Absolutely not. 210 from 320 and I am always sweaty, I have terrible swamp butt and sweat through my undies on a daily basis, I am always warm. Uncomfortably warm.

Only time I'm cold is when it's actually freezing.

>>41951480
>I'm 190 from 300

>Any current pics you can share?

>>41951651
Maybe because they didn't have the opportunities you had? Or they had other problems, like mentally they were depressed or fucked up in some way? Not everyone is so lucky. You don't just all of a sudden get successful overnight.

For example my parents are nutso and I've had to give them all my money since I was 18. I don't exactly have many options besides disowning my family. So I've been stuck in a rut for 6-7 years.

>>41952188
>Maybe because they didn't have the opportunities you had?
>Not everyone is so lucky.

You don't know my story

I didn't have luck, I was miserable and getting ready for suicide in my early 20s

I ended up making it for other reasons, nobody was really there for me since its hard to help someone else sometimes when they are in a different field

Did it on my own and pulled myself out of depression and suicide goals

I also didn't really have any opportunities at the time and my only way out was to end it. When you're broken down you only come back stronger

>>41951740
I'm 5'11 and was at 213 about a month ago. 197 now and you're looking a little better than I do currently, although it's a little hard to tell since I have about 1/8th as much body hair as you. But I think you'll be fine.

If I don't lose my man tits by the time I get to 180 or so I'm gonna be freaking out.

>>41952330
Well done on making it, I'm in the former category but in my mid 20s. What'd you end up doing to be successful?

>>41947249
skipped the gym on sunday and skipped my cardio today.

Miraculously down 8-9 pounds for the month but still feel like a fat fuck

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>>41952171
Behold, my delicious loose skin.

>>41952342
This is going to be long and I apologize for posting this on /fat/ but my life has changed and I want to share it

I've posted this on /g/ before and many people have said good job on not killing yourself.. To be honest unlike most people online who threaten suicide I was actually ready to do it and not look for attention or worried about talking to my family ever again and I have my reasons

>>41952370
Doesn't even look that bad.

>>41952370
:)

You look amazing

I am not only envious but I am proud of you anon, You've made it

Right on

>>41952377
Go ahead man. I'm listening.

>>41951541
Those are fetish porn stars. Look at the front page of any major porn site, or search for anything broad like "lesbian" or whatever. You will see almost exclusively thin chicks and a few thicc girls with big tits and ass, but no gut.

>>41951695
sounds like you are being jewed for gains.

i would rather say keep doing 5x5 and add in some chin ups after every workout as well as some band pull aparts in between every push set and band/cable facepulls after every other workout.

im no PT though

What are the best macro-dense foods for a /fat/? Every day I get dangerous close to my Carb allowance while being maybe half to my P-F

>>41952384
Thanks, mate.

>>41952386
Th-thanks

>>41952466
burgers

>>41952377
>Be me
>Try to get into the IT field while in school
>Nobody offering me a job at all
>Some interviews and never get any job for years after going to an interview
>Broken down at 25 years old
>Contracting company calls for an interview
>They want to know whats different about me and why I want to work in IT etc..
>Explain I have the skills but no job experience I just want to make it
>They look at me, 3 guys in their early 30s
>I accidentally get passionate/start tearing up explain I have no job in the IT field and I want someone to give me a chance
>I could control it, I've failed so much and couldn't hold it in anymore
>At an interview, tearing up for some reason and I'm losing it at 25
>Its been a tough road, nobody giving me a job
>Work a job for the past few years for 10hr and notice I'm losing my life/passion to a job being miserable at 10/hr and nobody is hiring me at all
>Met some people online who got a job and they don't know shit about IT so they are learning on the job
>They proceeded with an interview for some clients but i never got a job
>Months go by, guy from contracting company contacts me again asks how I'm doing and if I have a job
>Don't respond to his email, planning suicide
>He sends another email, good luck man I wish we could just find a job for you or something...
>Months go, by interviews left and right
>Talk to dad, tell him I'm trying to find a job in the IT field
>His face pretty much terrified me
>He didn't care about me at all, he didn't believe I was going to make it and he looked at me like ok yea just keep applying anon
>Just keep applying...
>Nothing my family can do to help me, they don't have a good job either
>Dad loosing his mind since he's a vet and has PTSD
>I'm still trying to get a job at 25 and its in the IT field
>Nobody really giving me a chance
>Things go by, still looking for work
>Drive 1.5 hours for an interview
>Hit it off, things are good
>Feel good
>No job offer

>>41952370
I got the same thing anon, lost about the same amount of weight as you did too. I want surgery to get rid of my skin but:

A. Every plastic surgeon I've been to said its really not worth it.(Said the amount of skin to lose is really not that much)
B. Expensive as fuck

Just try and fill it out with muscle. That's what I did, I'm still very self conscious about my skin bu I look way better than I did without the muscle

Its cheat day, what do you get /fat/?

>>41952482
>Driving with dad, he breaks down in the car
>Why does nobody give you a job?
>Why can' they just help you get an entry level IT job??
>Get an easy job at help desk
>Fired after one month for being rude on the phone
>Was trying to calm someone down and they wouldn't listen to me on the phone, I told them ok, ok and just passed the call
>FIRED that same day
>Another job called few weeks later
>Got a contract job
>3 days installing devices
>Never called again, no full time job offers
>Another job calls
>2 days at a tech center
>Most embarrassing job you can think of
>Getting ready to end it
>Go to interviews, they don't really think I have the experience for an entry level job, but it is entry level
>I explain I'm just looking to get my foot into the door...
>Get a few certs
>Go to interviews
>NO job offers
>One day apply for a job
>Get a call in five minutes
>They call me to interview half way across the country
>I can't do that, i'm broke and have no money to fly for just an interview
>Interviewed on skype twice
>Got the job but I need to pack up and move across the country
>Tell my dad I have a job offer but very far away
>He says you need to go, I don't want to see you be unsuccessful anymore
>Mom says you can't leave
>Just keep trying at home.... with no job....
>Take the job, move and live for one year at some older ladies house in her basement while working at this job
>Promoted within 3 months
>Begin training other coworkers
>Promoted again
>Fly home after not seeing family for a year
>I'm successful now
>Family is proud
>Dad is crying when he sees me
>His son finally made it
>All that time I failed, I kept getting back up and telling myself in 3 months the gun is loaded..
>Just try again for three more months
>Just try again
>Kept trying, and made it

>>41952562
Nothing. Cheat days are for the weak.

>>41952562
>cheat DAY
Stop that anon.

...the 1kg southern style fried chicken drumsticks they have for $15

>>41952562
There are no cheat days in my routine.

>>41952586
I can't believe how much I went through to get where I am today and most people will never know what is is like to break down and have tears pouring down in an interview..
I was even angry for a while, interview with companies, talk to actual professionals in the field
>They don't know shit about troubleshooting
>They don't know what DNS is
>They don't know how to trouble shoot firewalls/ids/ips issues
>And they have a job while I sit at home apply every day and cry at night while watching movies...

>>41952586>>41952482
>>41952612

Nice work Anon that's an uplifting story.

Myself I got a humanities degree and have never worked a day in my life, so I'm pretty fucked I would imagine. Fortunately I'm in the UK so I binned that gun and binned that knife long ago so no suicide for me. :v)

It's interesting hearing the IT jobs aren't even that easy to get out of a degree though, I assumed that was the best route I could've gone rather than the shit I did. I didn't have much choice in the matter, parents forced me into the degree for money and so I would be doing anything. I then proceeded to spend 3 years in my room getting to 300lbs and gave up on life.

Now I'm 200lbs but I still have no good outlook on life. Honestly I wonder if I'm more depressed now than ever now I'm looking at my life fully in the mirror, rather than being blissfully ignorant. IDK it sucks having like no friends, no real plan for the future. Sucks going on Facebook and seeing it's just like school with everyone still friends from back then but now they're rich, successful, have families or gf's. Meanwhile I'm a fucking loser and still fat because I'm also a manlet.

>>41952591
>>41952598
>>41952603
These were the responses I was looking for.

>>41952651
>I'm also a manlet
Feel bad for you desu

>>41952651
I also had no plans, no friends and nobody to help me

I was too focused on being unsuccessful, no money to do anything and too depressed

But I had to keep trying, that look my dad gave me when I was telling him a story of my interview, he gave no shit if I made it or not, He couldn't help me at all...

>>41952669
That's not even the last of it, I'm also balding. Been going bald since I was 18 and now I've got a full blown massive bald patch. Life is just great, no?

>>41952671
It's great man, although you at least got a degree useful for anything. My history degree, and one without even a good grade mind you, basically opens no doors. I am at a loss as to what I even do now. At least you knew about computers and IT stuff. All I know about is video games, politics and movies. I am SO fucked.

>>41952711
Never graduated I have no degree..

>>41952729
Well damn man that is really impressive. Did that hinder your search too?

Still knowing computers these days is probably a greater advantage than my shit. There's so many computer or programming jobs around. No one's asking for one of the many plebs with a history degree.

>>41952562
No Days, but I fux with cheat meal.

Either a medium bbq chicken pizza from dominos or a chicken supreme family dinner from bojangles

>>41952711
>That's not even the last of it, I'm also balding. Been going bald since I was 18 and now I've got a full blown massive bald patch. Life is just great, no?
You are playing life on extreme hard mode. Adapt.

>>41952743
No, you don't need a degree in IT

I had no experience = no job even in entry level

Other people do have it easier

They somehow get offered a job even though they have no experience and I had to struggle for years. Struggle makes you stronger

>>41952774
Getting a job depends on a variety of factors.
Your degree, experience, looks, relations, personality and confidence.

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>>41952767
The plan is to get some hair surgery even if it costs me £10,000 but sometimes I just feel like, what's the point of anything? I'm already behind all my peers in literally every way. But I guess I must soldier on because that's the game of life.

I wish someone was here to hold my hand and tell me what to do, or anyone could give me advice. All my parents do is bitch at me and when they try to help they just end up insulting me and screaming at me for being a failure. I spent the last few years funneling them money but that's still not enough.

>>41952774
Yeah it's not fair at all. I think it's like >>41952788 said, it's a lot of different factors. I'm not sure I'll ever make it.

>>41952805
>But I guess I must soldier on because that's the game of life.
There are a select few who have it easy and like 40% have it easy enough. The rest of us are forced to have at least some struggle and you just had bad luck in that gamble.
>I wish someone was here to hold my hand and tell me what to do, or anyone could give me advice. All my parents do is bitch at me and when they try to help they just end up insulting me and screaming at me for being a failure. I spent the last few years funneling them money but that's still not enough.
Only advice I can give you is to learn a trade or something. You're not going to become anything other than a worker at McDonalds with your History degree.

>>41952831
Dude I can't go learn a trade, I'm almost 25 and just got a degree in History. The time for learning is over. Should just go jump off a bridge.

>>41952839
My friend, you need help

It isn't over, who cares about what degree you have. It is never over...

>>41952339
haha yeah, I'll need to deal with it eventually. being a 273 lb fatty having a waved/shaved stomach and chest was never my priority. I'll need to do something about it eventually lol.

>>41952839
25 is not too late yet. Learn a trade and work as a factory worker in the meantime.

>>41952848
Help from who though? Everything costs money. No one can nor wants to help me.

not that I'd actually kill myself but really it's how I feel at the moment.

>>41952850
I have no money, I can't pay to learn a trade and work at a factory, there's none around here anyway.

>>41952760
Not going to make it.

>>41952651
Well since everyone is spilling the beans...I guess I could share my story too, perhaps it'll inspire others.

I am 24, master's degree in political sciences (useless unless liberal or SJW) which I struggled to get because of debilitating mental illness (depressions and later on bipolar) which made me quit two years out of the seven I spent in university and grad school.

I was forced into taking drugs under threat of internment by my very own mother who focused on nothing but to get me to work so she could cash in on her interests raising me.

The drugs took away two years of my life, feeling like a zombie, a shell of a being, with no emotion, no pleasure, no happiness at the price of being "stable".

I lost all friends, became reclusive, I was rejected by my peers for being aloof and unattached emotionally even though I tried very hard to fit in.
I'm here because as a result of taking this medication, I have gained about 40lbs in the span of two years.

A little bit about three months ago, I decided to quit university, and the plans "I" had to do a PhD. I spent the rest of the semester at home resting and eventually gave up a lot of bad things in my life in the process of focusing on my health again: smoking, drinking, coffee (I drank too much to stay "awake"). I started eating clean, exercising. I am almost there.

The only thing that worries me is that I am deathly afraid of work, as I have become very socially anxious and uninterested in "normie" social life, as well as completely emotionally drained and fatigued of keeping up with energetic, working people. I just have lost faith and a positive outlook on people and society from how I've been treated at the time I needed most help.

I feel like I am just genetically programmed to fail, if I can't keep up with the pace of an office job.
I've honestly been considering moving to a deserted area, and just living as a recluse.

>>41952805
>Spending money because you want hair.
Embrace your baldness and shave it all off.

>>41952788
>experience
>looks
>personality
>confidence

JUST KILL ME

>>41948570
Engoring yourself and fasting is not sustainable. Wtf?

>>41952907
Tell me about it, I had no experience and was /fat/

Good luck getting a job with nobody respecting you on the quality of work you could produce

Confidence doesn't mean shit since you can bullshit your way through that, nobody can get better looking in a few lessons..

>>41952905
Not him, but Rogain is like $20/month. There's no reason to go bald in 2017

>>41952933
That shit doesn't work and is just a way for idiots to waste money.

>>41952905
I look awful balding or bald, it doesn't suit me at all. It's just the worst luck. Though I think fem anons who go bald have it worse from the stigma, feel really sorry for them.

>>41952890
Sad story man, and I can relate on a few fronts. I also have a shitty degree and insane parents. Just this evening my parents were shouting their stupid memes at me, these unfunny "jokes" which are basically them shouting an annoying catchphrase in my direction to annoy me, after lecturing me on how I have to "apply for a degree." this is entirely so I can give them student loan money, it's all they care about. They're fucking nuts.

Besides that I also got up to 320lbs during my degree, stopped giving any shits about anything in my life. Barely went to class, living at home, I took 2 years off school/life being a NEET and doing an extra year of school. I mean what the fuck do I do now? I have at most £10 in my account at a time..

One appealing option I keep thinking over is taking out a 10,000 pound loan and just gambling it on something. I know it's a bad idea but at some points I've felt like I could've won it big on election night(s) and fucked myself due to cowardice. I feel like if I played the stock market and gambling market I could make it big. It's sad how this is one of the best ideas I can think of.

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Had another good day. Diet is on point and dead lifted 140kg for 5 again.

>>41952950
Numerous clinical studies and millions of satisfied customers would disagree. It doesn't completely reverse balding, but if you catch balding early enough it will halt it and reverse most of it. If you're already bald it won't do anything for you, but that's your fault for waiting

>>41952953
>Pics?

>>41952953
How bad can it be? There are plenty of people on this planet that are bald and have chosen to be bald.

>>41952972
>Doesn't reverse it
>Wasting money on something that delays that is bound to happen to us all.
There just no economical reason to spend it. You would be better off using the money on other things that matter more, such as staying /fit/.

>>41950551
could be worse lad
you could be fat

>>41952925

>Good luck getting a job with nobody respecting you on the quality of work you could produce.

Ha ha ha ! like honey to my ears...You have no idea, NO IDEA, how much I relate to that particular sentence.
I've always been the perfectionist, the overachiever, with great work ethic, discipline, dedication, motivation and ambition, even...
But what can I say, I simply didn't brush people's feathers the right way. I have been more than impartial, unbiased in analyzing the behavior of people around me, and I've realized people dislike me, not because of how I treat them, or with what worth the content I have to provide in the given context is, but because of my appearance and because of what decades of being deprived of attention, positive reinforcement, and social recognition has done to me. Wouldn't it turn the most innocent dedicated hard working person into a bitter shell of a being?Why should I give in and become the enabler of this inefficient system? So normies if you expect me to play the game of social niceties with you, just expect a loud grunt and a general look of disdain, if not complete ignorance and avoidance, because that's what you deserve.

/rant

>>41951447
You're gonna make it

>>41952980
>>41952988
Dude it's fucking horrifying, you don't want to see it. Even my family agrees I should wear a hat everywhere to hide the ugliness.

And it's not like I was handsome before this happens, I'm a complete mess, now I look borderline downie without a hat. And I'm hairy as fuck, one of the hairiest non-turks on the planet.

>>41952562
>cheat day

No, but cheat meal is always a pan pizza with lots of meat and extra cheese

people have started calling me 'that skinny lad' but I just don't fucking see it
I look down and I see a huge belly and love handles
I'll always be fat

>>41953015
>Downie without a hat
Sorry for your hair lost.

>>41953015
I think you are missing the point, we will all die one day. What is one picture of you going to do?

Stop worrying about how you look and put in so much work/dedication that you will succeed

Being bald?

So what, I'm almost 30, losing my hair and I've had grey hair since 25

I spent a long time being unsuccessful but never again will I make excuses for myself..

>>41953002
>But what can I say, I simply didn't brush people's feathers the right way

That what everyone wants, we are social creatures they don't care if you are the worst at your job but you are social and pay for "lunch" they will worship you

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Should I shave? Am I subhuman

>>41952805
Never browse hairlossforums, that shit fucks with you.

>>41953032
I dunno man, I think I'm rocking the special needs child look a little less since I lost the weight, but that must be the vibe I gave when out with parents. I've got a couple of looks from girls I think in the last few months, not any who are like above a 6 but hey it's something. My social and love life is such a joke though. Hate my fucking life.

>>41953035
There's no point putting a picture up here, you guys can't tell me anything I don't know.

You're right of course. There's not much else I can do, I have fucked myself into having very limited choices. At least losing the weight makes things a little easier.

God damn it man, I used to have some great friends too, but they fucked me over. I think my personality just sucks and nobody wants to give me a second chance. I think this guy has it right, being reclusive and given no positive reinforcement has made me into a bitter shell of a person. >>41953043

>>41953069
If you shave you will get that Rust player model aesthetic.

>>41953076
Get fit and take it slow, you will make it.

>>41953076
>>41953043
meant to quote >>41953002

>>41953043


You know at some point like >>41953076 said, up until maybe three years ago, I was social, friendly, outgoing, always up for events, organizing them myself and bringing friends together, making friends meet, giving special gifts on occasion for some good friends (like a traditional antique ink pen for an aspiring writer friend of mine), going out a lot by myself and always finding people up for mischief with me.
But there has always been, always been in every interaction I have been in, the slight suspicion of untruthfulness on other people's part, I have never felt acknowledged as a good friend, never recognized for the good things I did, always left out of the group if not asking to be involved while always trying to involve others as well.
Now I know there are some people out there who just are emotionally dependent and constantly crave affection or attention, but this is far from being my case. I have been passively rejected for years and kept trying as long as the general peer environment didn't pressure for my exclusion all in all.
Then I fell sick, legitimately physically sick, for months...and nobody bothered to check in on me. I sent letters to my best friend explaining, hell even apologizing to them of my absence, and they didn't bother to respond.
So it's not like I have not tried to be social. I have been and clearly, having done all I could, it wasn't my "social intelligence", but more perhaps what lack of "emotional intelligence" I had to not take the hint that I should stop trying.

So I'm done being social, I invested too much energy and emotional investment in it, I'm clearly not cut for the job, never will be despite all my efforts.

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>>41953002
I'm dying, this is painfully relatable. I'm not really chatty at work, I'm more interested in keeping my head down and making a good product but my boss seems to only appreciate people who are good at "talking" even if it's just about themselves. It's like I'm lazy/under performing because I can't entertain him with a story about my weekend.

>>41950141
Your talking about the sweeteners if you don't drink 100 Liters of it in one go you're fine

>>41953221
I have the same problem, its a social game and you either play it or you're left out....

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is strawberry banana shake with greek yog good for those days where you just don't eat enough?

>>41953199
Holy shit dude I know EXACTLY what you mean but it was almost worse in my case.

I have some friends who constantly would tell me their stupid problems, for years. This one guy especially always rants to me about how his college work is too hard, how he's socially awkward, baww typical bullshit, always leaning on my for emotional support. So I figure, if some bad shit happens I can rely on him and my friends right?

Wrong. My mother got cancer for the second time, I go to this guy and say "I am really fucked up, I need you right now man, I need a strong friend." He says to my face "sure I'm here for you." Then he ghosts me. He ghosts me for fucking months, he just doesn't give a shit, doesn't respond to me or my messages, just ignores me. My other friends too just don't give a shit, try to ignore what is happening, I couldn't fucking believe it.

I am always the one organizing shit, was always the one doing shit, but all of a sudden it's like, can't be fucked to deal with YOUR problem. Good fucking friends.

Ever since this shit happened I lost 100lbs, this guy is now morbidly obese for the first time, like 280lbs at 6ft so really damn fat, and fuck em seriously. After all the time I spent stroking his ego and telling him he'll make it he fucks me like that. And I still for some reason talk to this asshole because he keeps blowing smoke up my ass about how he's just busy 24/7 but will totes come do stuff next week, on and on and on.

>>41953281
>And I still for some reason talk to this asshole because he keeps blowing smoke up my ass about how he's just busy 24/7 but will totes come do stuff next week, on and on and on.
NOT OP

I do the same actually, still talk to them sometimes even though they made it clear 1. They are not really there for you and 2. They don't really care


Need to remember the new people you meet aren't your friends from when you were a kid

People these days are different and can't be bothered with your shit, but they want you there for them...

>>41953221
Hey Glitch, just know we appreciate your dedication to our general, especially with such good results like winning the month tournament of weight loss. At least, if that comforts you, here there are people living through much more than one common struggle as we've discovered, that actually care for you, and those are whose opinion should really matter.

>>41953243
Yeah it's like a big game of Survivor if you've ever watched it...all forge alliances, then go about blindsiding others and the such.
The only reason a meta autist like Cochran ever won a season, is because he was playing 4D chess all along knowing how predictable his opponent's tactics were. We literally know too much, we're too far gone. I'd bet you on my life that most of these normies have no ideas the levels of intricacies their social games are on. I am pretty sure most of them act on instinct.

>see someone looking at one funny, or blatantly faking being friends with them
>just assimilate and do that to gain social points with person 1.

disgusting.

>>41947249
Ate a whole pizza for no good reason today
Forgive me /fit/her

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>>41953323
Thanks dude, that actually means a lot. <33 This general has been wonderful in terms of keeping me on track and dedicated. These crabs in a bucket can't keep me down.

>>41947227
I started cutting & exercising the last week of May at 257lbs. I'm now 242lbs and worried I'm cutting too quickly and gonna wind up losing more muscle than fat. Anyone have an suggestions or thoughts? Am I being paranoid? (Been getting at least 150g of protein a day btw)

>>41952839
>The time for learning is over

Not gonna make it with this attitude. I went to law school with a 44 year old woman who got a job as a receptionist at a law office in her early 40s. She's working as a lawyer now and makes at least six figures a year.

>>41947249
I had a slice of a tiger bar cake. 1000 calories.

>>41953281
Yeah I remember those days...The days where it was still unclear to me (I should have realized when it was always I initiating the contact) that my friends would never come back into my life.
I sent them first some pieces of news about me, to inform them of how I was doing, my plans with school and such. Just to let them know I was sick without making them too concerned (as if they would be)...Then receiving some sort of brushed off answer, vaguely interested in what I had to say, much more focused on cementing their own struggles. Then when I did get well after a couple months, there were multiple attempts on my part to set up a meeting. It was always pushed further because of "urgent matters", and then at some point I just gave up. What's worse is when they actually trick you into thinking they will meet with you like what happened to me : with one of my best friends, I bought tickets to a premiere for a movie with a concert with bands from the soundtrack right after for my friend and I, and he didn't show up, and never texted or called to give me an explanation. Another time that same friend stood me up when we were supposed to watch an independent film at a cinema, I waited two hours in the cold...

So they must have thought I was expendable. Hell, they might have replaced me, with someone who will share the same fate as me, maybe they go through endless people like us through their lives? I don't know.

I find the fact that people abandoned you at your most vulnerable time, the illness of your mother, really despicable, and generally indicative of the moral worth of these "friends".
You were better off without them, if that comforts you. Someone that has the emotional depth and maturity that you have will always be a treasure to those who can appreciate it, if that makes you feel better. Just know someone, actually like me and you, will one day be there for you, and you for them.

>>41952907
Fake it til you make it bro

My last interview I just went in and acted supremely confident even though I was a fat mess and a bundle of nerves. Spilt a lil spaghetti but laughed it off and generally acted like a normie, they totally bought it

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>>41953323
I usually take my name off during the week unless I need to do contest shenanigans but this dude nailed it on the head. You're always present and I find you to be a badass in general.

Keep it up, bro.

is it okay to drink coffee? is it healthier with cream or milk?

>>41953611
I just take mine black or with almond milk.

>>41953463
I was much fatter than you, but in my first WEEK i lost 14lbs. I'm assuming a lot of early weight loss is water weight

I very quickly settled into 1.5-2lbs a week and have sustained that for just over 2 months now

>>41953611
Black coffee is an appetite suppressant and stimulates metabolism

Adding milk or cream is just worthless calories

>>41953640
thanks brudda, I was getting all happy about my progress but had that fear in the back of my head. I'm gonna keep going on a 1000cal defect until I hit 10% bf. Congrats on your progress, diet has been the hardest part for me so far

>>41953621
>>41953654
b-but McDonalds $1 medium iced coffee with sugar-free french vanilla with cream tastes so good

>>41947249
>had doritos and 2 cans of root beer last night
>had to compensate by only having 2 protein shakes and some steak today
fuck. gonna have a bowl of fruit for dessert, and hopefully have some calories left

Does Keto and/or IF burn more calories than just a normal low calories diet? Or better worded, does it shed fat faster or is it a meme?

>>41953002
>he thinks people don't like him because of how he looks
>proceeds to act like a huge asshole

Yeah, your looks have nothing to do with it.

>>41953683
>drinking 200 calories

SHIGGY

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>>41953711
I've been doing keto and IF , it works for me . in a way I find the dicipline of low carb helpful . no bread , no sugar
is it faster ? no . water fasting is fastest

>>41953683
I still have a McDonald's breakfast voucher to spend
Last time I got a bacon muffin and espresso which came to 350kcal
Very tempted to get the sausage muffin and toffee latte this time.
Don't want to oversell my progress but I think I've earned it

>>41953683
No it really doesn't.

>>41953804
i'm water fasting right now, will be doing so till friday, then i'm going IF + Keto

just want to know if it sheds more belly fat so as to decide if i will do it for a month or 3 weeks

>>41953711
>>41953804
Remember that once the decision is made all fatties want to lose the weight fast

And that losing weight fast is the best way to get loose skin if you succeed, the best way to gain weight back afterwards because you haven't disciplined yourself with normal human eating habits, and the best way to fail and binge on shit during because you are denying yourself so much.

I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying do your research, learn about food, and prepare yourself for afterwards because those diets are not sustainable.

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LOL is there really this many fat people?
Holy kek fucking fat fucks i hope you guys can change cause fatties need to die.

>>41953832
Senpai, i weight 68Kg at 5'5'', i just want to lose the extra belly fat so i can lean bulk again. My complete fat loss was 7 years ago when i was 86kg, since then 70 was my limit

>>41947249
Eat like shit the last two days give me strength father

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>>41947249
Chicken tendies are a little rare to find where I'm living, so when I saw them at the supermarket I bought two packs (about 180 grams each).

I was planning to eat one for dinner. It's in my 1500 cals and I took a walk after... But I couldn't stop myself and ate the other the same night. Still under TDEE, but man I broke and I know it.

With BBQ sauce.

>>41953910
Its a marathon anon, not a sprint. Get back in the ring

Do you guys do fish? Whats the best way to eat it? I only eat chicken for gains and it gets boring

>>41953972
You disgust me. Get your fucking life together and commit to YOURSELF. Not to me, not this fucking board. You.

>>41951740
probably dude, but you should get the surgery when you're at 10% bodyfat or so. that way it will be cheaper. you won't need lyposuction, which will probably add like another 2k or so.
Make sure you get a plastic surgeon to fix you up if you have it.
I paid 4.5k for mine and 2nd week in recovery, looking pretty good.

>>41954017
I appreciate that you are trying to support me with that kind of language, but responding to a confession is about giving absolution and not condemnation.

>>41954013
I either fry it in a very small quantity of Olive oil, or season it, put some aluminium paper around it and cook it in the oven

>>41954050
What kind of fish though? I hate tuna, the smell of it makes me retch

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>>41953508
Thank you Apple! <3 You too!

>>41954062
Tbh i normally cook with Merluza, Salmon or one of the river fishes from near my city, Tuna i usually buy the canned one and make it with some omelet or scrambled eggs

>>41947227
Skinnyfat guy reporting in.

I lost 17 kilograms only with diet and now I am 182cm/73kg. I can't lose more weight for about 2 months and still have much fat on my legs and stomach (not that good at English but I hope you understand what I mean), and also some fat on my chest.

So, what should I do if I am too lazy to move?

>>41954105
You can stop being a little bitch and go hit the gym

>>41947227
How do you know if you have gyno or if they're just chubby tits?

>>41954105
The best way to burn fat is to build muscle. Do strength training (lift weights) targeting your legs and core.

Of course you won't get rid of it being lazy.

>>41954131
But local fat burning is impossible. Fat is burned from ALL your body, not from parts that you lift

>>41954093
Aight ill try it out my next grocery trip, thanks anon

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>>41950857

>get thin
>tfw not there yet

>>41954163
Ah, fair enough. I assumed building muscle in an area would get rid of fat, if that's not the case I apologize.

Still be should lift though.

>>41954193
Yea, I still need lifting cuz have no muscles

Today i realised while doing plank in gym my loose skin is terrible, i never felt more self conscious in my life, how to limit excessive skin?

What do you guys do for snacks? I have a 3000 mile drive coming up and I'm trying to plan every aspect in advance. I'm thinking baby carrots but I also want some variety.

>>41954288
Raspberries. Sometimes something else like greek yogurt or quark.

>>41954288
trash tier: nuts, veg, jerky, chips
bro tier: shakes, fruit
god tier: chicken wraps cut into bite sized segments, each with a toothpick for ease of munch.
grilled chicken + lettuce/kale + sauce and toppings of your choice
bonus points for fiber or protein-enhanced tortillas

>>41954267
My understanding is

1. Lose weight slowly
2. Build muscle (and dip hypertrophy training)
3. Some excess skin is actually excess fat clinging to skin, keep losing weight
4. It will tighten to some degree in time
5. Get surgery

>>41954288
Beef jerkey, nuts, vegetables you like, string cheese, roll ups with lettuce and deli meat, pickles

Bring a cooler if you do many of these, obviously.

>>41954352
Fuck you nigga Jerky is great.

I bet you guys all have a lot weighing on your mind

>>41952562
If I ever do a cheat day it will just be me eating up to my TDEE. I couldn't live with myself knowing that I just GAINED more weight while on a cut. Though the longer I go the more I think I don't even want to do that. It will be that much more satisfying once I actually reach my goal weight and can eat over to or over my TDEE without feeling guilty.

>>41954397
Less every day

>>41954411
Proud of you anon

>>41952839
Ahem after you get fit you can apply for a federal worker position and live a comfy life in DC

>>41954405
This.

>>41954457
Only reptiloids are allowed to live in DC.

>>41952839
This is what children actually believe.

Most people have several careers in their lifetime.

>>41952839
I'm graduating top of my class in Mech. Eng., hope to make a lot of money and then throw everything away to build my own cozy coffe bar in a small town and still be able to live confortably

stop being a faggot and do it

>>41954105
You mean you couldn't lose more weight for the last two months, right? Have you tried lowering your calories?

So I've finally gotten into the habit of eating healthier, but now I have a new problem, I'm always hungry. I'll have 2 eggs, a potato, and some broccoli for breakfast, still be hungry, eat a salad an hour later, still hungry, have a pound of broccoli and chicken for lunch, still hungry, etc all day. When I was eating junk it took way less food to feel satisfied and I don't know how to fix my appetite. I'm eating more calories now than I did before, it's just not junk. Does anyone else experience this? How did you get around it?

>>41954861
It sounds like you aren't eating much fat. Add healthy fats that should increase a feeling of fullness, like nuts, avocado, and olive oil.

Fat isn't inherently unhealthy, it's a necessary part of our diet.

>>41954887
I cook in olive oil, generally. For example, with the 2 eggs in the morning I'll oil the pan with say a tablespoon of olive oil, maybe a little less. Should I be using more? And I'll pass on the nuts. They're too addictive, every time I buy some I munch on them nonstop.

>tfw so close to being under 35 BMI
>would go down from Class 2 Obese to Class 1

I can't wait.

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>>41947249
Am I gonna make it?

>>41954930
I hear you bro, I'm at 36 right now. I'm gonna be so happy when I can wear normal people clothes.