/fat/ - Enough Is Enough Edition

What are you eating /fat/ ?

>>41903339
nothing

>>41903339
I ate Chicken Kitchen Teriyaki Bowl for lunch and I feel overstuffed but don't know why it wasn't that many calories.. Maybe there was too much sauce. The bowl without the teriyaki is just gross.

>ideal weight range: 50lbs
what the actual fuck

>>41903339
METREX protein shake of the Banana and Strawberry variety.

>only lost 20 pounds
>feel like if i touch a treadmill again i'm going to go on a spree

anyone here not run at all?
people will happily tell you how great running is (doctors included) but theres limited hours in your life that you can spend torturing yourself

>>41903440
not tried running since I was 120lbs heavier
might try it now that I won't be clomping on the pavement like a hippo

>>41903339
just had a glass of water for brunch

>>41903440
Exercise is great, although I'd argue running is hard on your body, but really weight loss is mostly a diet thing. I mean get some exercise for general health, but, you have to spend a lot of gym time to burn off not much food. It's just not that efficient for fat burning.

Tummies are made in the kitchen. :o)

>>41903450
running outside is definitely less soul grinding but you get worse shin splits and blisters

Reposting just in case you missed it in the last thread

>Apple

295.2

Mochii

>>41903339
Breaded chicken, potatoes Delphine (or whatever it's called) and cabbage, broccoli
Not too bad, potatoes where the biggest Cal. I think.

Laddies. I just cooked some turkey burgers and when I cut into them I realized that they were just barely warm inside. I got too lazy to put them back on the heat so I ate them. Pretty sure they were practically raw.

Am I gonna die? It's been 30 minutes and I already feel weird movements in my belly.

Can I take a nap to get over this or is there a chance I might shit my bed?

H A L P

>>41903508

You would know by now if it was going to be real bad. Next time let them sit a bit longer or put them in like a 325 degree oven for a few minutes to finish off while you drink a bud light.

>>41903339
3 chicken drumsticks, 5 broccoli florets and half a baguette of garlic bread.

I'm addicted to garlic bread it just tastes so fucking good.

>>41903508
>>41903518

Oh oops reading comprehension. I doubt you will shit your bed, but you will have the poops later.

>>41903508
Sorry you have super burd flu
Please report to your local landfill so it saves someone having to drive your body there.

How many calories could doing 20km on a bike ~17km/h realistically burn for somebody weighing 86kg?

Various apps give ridiculous numbers around 1000kcal, and my autism requires an actual number so that I can repent for my slight sins somewhat accurately.

>>41903508
You chose the worst possible kind of meat to eat raw. Although I doubt you'd shit your bed even if you get food poisoning (unless that has happened to you before, in which case what the fuck dude)

>>41903508
>. I just cooked some turkey burgers and when I cut into them I realized that they were just barely warm inside.

Then you didn't cook them

> Pretty sure they were practically raw.

Why would you eat raw fucking processed turkey how stupid are you. Eating dirt would be safer.

You might be sick and maybe that will teach you not to be so stupid ever again.

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Hello Apple
HellsChef here

179.7 lbs

>>41903549
>>41903570
For what it's worth, I bought ground turkey breast and made patties myself.

Does that make it better or worse?

Also for the record, I never shat my bed, I was just scared of the runs happening while I was asleep.

>center crease forming on my abdominal wall
VERY good feel lads!

>>41903339
finishing a brotein shake. there's some steak in the fridge but i'm not that hungry.

>>41903610
It doesn't really make a difference. Poultry is covered in bacteria, and grinding it up places all of that inside the meat, so you gotta cook that shit thoroughly.

>>41903618
i can see it under the right light. i'm maybe 10lbs from actually seeing them.

>>41903610
>ground turkey breast

ground poultry is one of the worst things you could possibly eat raw. Never do it. And it can't have possibly tasted good. Why the fuck did you eat that?

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Hey /fat/, I currently have a lot of free time so I've decided to go riding my bike. What's the maximum you could ride in a day that would still burn calories without any adverse effects?

>>41903663
mate, its a bike

literally the most gentle cardio you can do if you aren't going up a hill

>>41903663
All day fattie now hop to it.

I love seeing fat people on bikes.

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>>41903440
I run with my dog, either real easy jog or we race for the tennis ball. Dogo is best

>>41903688
(Not him.)

Not swimming?
Figured that'd be less intensive overall

guyz I ate nothing but a cheesesteak and a multi-vitamin once a day for a year and lost 13lbs! Calories in, calories out!

>>41903721
Must've been an American cheesesteak.

>>41903715
swimming laps for cardio is actually harder than people think given most pools aren't that big you need to do quite a few laps before you can really call it cardio

>>41903736
Yep! It fit my macros and was under my TDEE so I figured why not! I have zero nutritional training or education and have never read any literature on the subject, but I just KNOW that it's as simple as CICO and IIFYM.
Anyways - eat whatever you want guys - clean eating is bullshit.

>>41903764
>and was under my TDEE
Maybe you lost like 10 calories a day if you only lost 13lbs a year.
>but I just KNOW that it's as simple as CICO and IIFYM.
It absolutely is.

>>41903764
Yep. It really is that simple.

>>41903339
Kale
Cherry tomatos
Pork
Lettuce
Cottage cheese
Balsamic vinegrette
Maybe some vegetables
Parmesan cheese

>>41903715
Swimming's intense as fuck if you're really going at it and a full-body resistance workout, you just don't have the sharp sudden knee-destroying impacts that running and the like does.

>>41903339

I had a huge plate of butter chicken and a small piece of garlic naan.

>>41903549
that's a slow pace so like 400-500 according to mfp but you are fatter so maybe a lil more. Def not 1000. I did 33km in 90 mins and mfp says i only burned 700ish cals.
>>41903618
when ever someone talks about their center crease i think of that fph whale that thought she had abs and was a muscular madonna. but gj m8

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>>41903764

Exactly! I cannot wait to eat nothing more than some frosted flakes for breakfast, bagels with maple syrup for lunch and pasta with marinara sauce with a Diet Coke for dinner. CICO! hehee.

>>41903784
>>41903787
thanks for agreeing with me brehs. if I may ask - which youtube videos do you guys watch for your nutritional information? which blogs do you guys follow?

>>41903295
> I got too lazy to put them back on the heat so I ate them. Pretty sure they were practically raw.

You fat fuck. Like a few mins and you couldn't be bothered to make a decent meal? Just had to eat right then? Do you eat cake mix out the box too? Get it together man

>Am I gonna die? It's been 30 minutes and I already feel weird movements in my belly.

No but you in for a bad time

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how have you kicked your sugar addiction, /fit/?

>41903894
That was for
>41903508

>>41903900
Refusing to eat it. Have some discipline.

>>41903900
today is day 2 of nosoda. went from full calorie to diet, and now nothing. the protein powder i use has 1g of sugar per scoop tho

>Fast all day yesterday
>Finally at the hour I end my fast for the day and eat a turkey sandwich and a banana
>Ridiculously satisfying, but I'm so fucking stuffed I feel like I'm going to throw up
>Few hours later, time to do my night run
>Do it, along with a couple sets of pushups
>Exhausted, feel like I should reward myself somehow
>Eat another turkey sandwich, legitimately nearly puke

All this fasting seems to have made my stomach the size of a damn fist. My eyes have never been so much bigger than my stomach in my life.

>>41903983

>eating when not hungry
>using food as a reward

are you even trying? stop posting here

>>41903998
It had been hours since I last ate. It was more habitual than anything.
Besides, it's not like I broke into a pack of cookies as a reward. Damn.

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I went from 230 to 208 in like ~40 days. this is me now.

what do you guys think i should work on from here on out? how am i doing? make fun of me?

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>tfw loose clothes

>>41904030
>what do you guys think i should work on from here on out?

everything

>>41904030
I think you're a good position to lose those lumps. Cardio and stretching is what I'd be working on. Your

>>41903339
Got a burrito at Chipotle because I'm tired of not shitting. Got brown rice, black beans, barbacoa, mild and hot salsa on it with just a little cheese and sour cream. Still like 800 calories though, but hopefully I'll be pushing a mess very soon.

>>41903440
why that? why not a bike?

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>>41903849
pasta with marinara would be perfect and healthy meal, just make sure you dont use much if all cooking oil when making the sauce

>>41903790
perfect menu for gaining weight, i assume you are badly underweight

>>41904030
you already have loose skin. slow the fuck down

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>>41903295
What the hell stomach pains stirred me awake. I hope I don't have internal bleeding. I eat a high fiber diet 6 days a week. Maybe I'm just dehydrated? I feel really thirsty.

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>crunching sound in right knee when going up stairs

is it too late for me?

>>41903339
Bacon and eggs for dindin

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>>41903688
>>41903701
I weigh 250 pounds. According to this
http://www.bicycling.com/training/calorie-counter, riding 12-14mph for an hour, I could burn 900 calories.

Can anyone confirm? This has to be bullshit.

>>41904209

i havent noticed any. where do you see it?

>>41903508
Think of all the weight you'll lose from food poisoning

Honestly, get a meat thermometer. It's cheap

>>41904245
It could be true but always think they're overestimating. Assume you'd need to do 2 hours. Anything between and 1 and 2 hours, say it's 600 calories. That's the only way to make it!

>>41904248
at the size of your gut, it should be rather taut, but there is song sag in your lower belly. if you slow down and are careful, you won't end up with any big problems

>>41903900
Ehh, not so much. I still have a bit of chocolate or something else sweet every 2-3 days.

I'm 100% off of regular sugary drinks though, and really only drink Cherry Coke Zero and Monster Zero sips. Plus my 8 liters of water per day.

>>41903764
>Anyways - eat whatever you want guys - clean eating is bullshit.
Fuck off retard

>>41904039
My skinny jeans now make me look like MC Hammer

>>41904030
>I went from 230 to 208 in like ~40 days.
How'd you do it senpai? I'm a lot heavier and would love to lose that quickly.

>>41904245
It's bullchit. See
>>41903827
running burns like 600 cals per hour, cycling at a medium pace would not burn 900.

If it takes your skin 6 months to tighten and 6 months to lose fat you end up with no loose skin.

If it takes your skin 6 moths to tighten and only 2 months to lose fat, then wouldn't you have to deal with loose skin for only 4 months?

If i'm wrong then somebody explain the fucking mechanic to me, because i can't come up with a reason why your skin wouldn't thighten up in the same timeframe regardless of how much fat there is under it.

>>41904258

i've lost weight at slower paces before this and i've never had one of those tight guts. would lifting remedy this at all?

>>41903764
This guy gets it

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>>41904304

>>41904279
I thought he was being sarcastic. If this thread is really that retarded then I'm glad I barely use it.

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YWN have a gf like this

>>41904290

uh in the span of a two week period i lost the love of my life, graduated college, and had a 24th birthday where no one even gave a shit. my work is off for the summer and i figured i had to do something. started keto and have been eating at 1500kcal for that time span. i've had like cheat days and shit too and some days where i've skipped some meals but i really haven't done anything too drastic here. i used to do 30 min elliptical and an hour on a treadmill at high incline but i traded the elliptical for lifting and an hour of treadmill with incline.

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>d..do these carbs make my butt look big, onii-chan?

>>41904298
Nobody knows how loose skin works. Generally it is seen more commonly in people who have lost a large amount of weight quickly but that could very well be circumstantial. Regardless, lose weight at a comfortable pace for you and deal with loose skin if it comes. It does tighten up to an extent...but it can take a while and most people can't handle that shit. If thats you, def lift as you lose.

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>>41904245
>>41904245
you must change your diet in order to lose weight.

exercise might boost only slighly. people who are severely obese should just skip the exercise and focus on their diet changes in order to bring the weight down first and then laster maybe start exercising. too much body weight and forcing exercise is not always too healthy, especially for your joints, nor too enjoyable for the person.

>>41904332
welp, not gonna try that diet plan I think. good work though. I've dropped 10 lbs in like 18 days but I'm over 300 - feels like it should be faster.

>>41904324
Maybe. I remember we've had idiots that think you can eat donuts and shit as long as you're hitting your calorie goals and the one /fat/tie that posted his breakfast the other day and it had brown sugar and pork bacon in it. I don't hang out here often too and I see these threads get a lot of stigma from the rest of the board so something is wrong.

>>41904143
Pffft
I'm eating under 1k calories a day, I don't know what you're on about.

>>41904303
Not him, but I'm 5'11 and dropped from 240 to 195 in about 2 and a half months and I also still have a gut and man tits but not loose skin. Everyone burns their fat differently so it'll go eventually.

>>41904380
well good luck, we'll see your success rate in 6 months. anybody can jojo count calories for a month or few. without dietary changes they eventually fail due to hunger drive taking over.

>>41904412
I'm sorry, I don't follow.

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Where is spreadsheet bro

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>>41904471
He ded. You stuck with me now.

>>41904344
>obese should just skip the exercise and focus on their diet changes in order to bring the weight down first and then laster maybe start exercising
>maybe start exercising
No, you HAVE to start exercising once you're not an obese blob anymore. You fucking need muscle, especially to tighten loose skin up. Why does this "exercise isn't that important" tripe get shilled around this general so goddamn much?

hey /fat/

literally never lifted in my life, and i'm about to go to the gym for squats/bench/pullups

i've only really ever done body weight exercises before, so what weight should i start at for bench/squat? i can do about 40 pushups or 10 pullups in a set

for reference, i'm 5'9", 165 lbs

Why is losing weight so much harder after 28?

>>41904502
Dumbasses would start eating back their calories as a reward for their hard work of exercising.

This just shows that you can lose weight with diet alone. Exercise is meant to be something to be added on

>>41904577

I would not go to the gym for the first time ever without a spotter to make sure you don't don't injure yourself and that your form is correct. If you don't have anyone don't exceed 95 lbs ( bar and a 25 )

Who cares what people think as long as you don't injure yourself

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>>41904577
Empty bar on squats, get that form down before you attempt to fuck up one of your joints.

I guarantee you if you do 5x5 with empty bar you will leave with jelly legs and won't be able to stairs.

>>41904619
Okay, thanks a bunch. What about squat starting weight? Same as bench, or more? I remember using one of those awful leg press machines back in college, and it had to have been a total meme because I could max it out for like 30 reps.

>>41904648
Alright, I'll keep that in mind, thanks. Anything else to know? I've practiced my form really quickly for squats with a pvc pipe, and watched a bunch of YouTube videos, but that's about the extent of my prep

>>41904654

Literally nothing like that machine. You are going to shake all over the place because you don't have the stabilization muscles.

>>41904716
Just remember to keep knees over toes, don't let them come inside. Its a seriously easy and common way for people to fuck up their knees for life real quick.

Will be home around 6pm and grabbing weights, updating the document from there. Make sure you all get your shit in!

Love ya, /fat/

Guys, going away with my friends next week. Never going to hit 1800 calories with all the booze I'm gonna drink. If I count everything and stay under 2800 (MFP says TDEE is 2300) and try and exercise all I can as well I shouldn't gain more than 2 lbs of fat right? Lost like 50lbs and shit scared of putting loads on but want to enjoy myself and have a boozey week.

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Should I eat if I dont want to and really dont have anything to eat?

>>41904983
>not hungry

Nah don't eat

>too lazy to get food when you need it

Yes, go get some good food and eat it faggot.

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>>41905007
Well Im just a BIT hungry, could use a 300kcal snack, but eh.

I don't always get gut-hungry, but I get tired-hungry. What should I do about this?

>>41903339
I ate a can of tuna with two slices of toast plus some cheese and drank a glass of milk today. Also rode my bike for 16 miles. God I'm so close to making it, it will be so fucking good to see my abs for the first time in my life and not be embarrassed of my upper body.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI

>>41905138
Why are people so resistant to the most basic, fundamental law of weightloss? It's like they build mental hedge mazes to find ways to say they don't matter.

>>41903440
Running is pretty comfy once you can get adjusted to it, so that you don't have to stop and you don't get pain in your abs. Especially when done outside and not on a treadmill.
Btw, you will only regret the workouts you don't do nigger.

I did my first weigh-in yesterday. Lost 11 pounds in the last two weeks. For some reason I don't feel good about it, though. I'm eating around 1,050-1,100 calories a day, but I still feel like I'm doing something wrong when I eat.

When do I feel better?

>>41905168
Dude there are people out there who unironically believe that fat cells don't go away during weight loss, they instead "shrink" but stay forever. Like what kind of asinine reasoning is that? Some folks are just unable to be helped.

>>41905138
Good video but way too in depth and discouraging. Message basically is cut down on bread and processed sugars because they generally have more calories than it may appear.

i.e. Atkins

>>41905138
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI
>calories don't matter

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXTiiz99p9o
>exercise doesn't matter

Is it true, /pol/? Is weight really just determined by genetics?

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>>41905201
>/pol/
>video doesn't say calories doesn't matter, just it's not solely based on calories
>second video doesn't say exercise doesn't help lose weight, it just says you can't only exercise

Jesus Christ you're all so weak.

>>41903339
2 steaks with fries, tzatziki and got drunk on wine and beer

>>41903339
>breakfast
two fried eggs, some leftover ground beef, and white wheat piece of toast with grape jelly

>lunch
banana, three strawberries, handful of blueberries, spinach leaves, and some vanilla yogurt blended into a smoothie. drank half, left the rest in the freezer for late night munchies

>dinner
whatever tasteless yet unhealthy slop my mother will lazily throw together for my family

>>41905201
>>41905227
Clickbait titles should be banned.

>>41905227
>>41905168
>>41905201

If you actually watched the video then you would realize that the message is much more nuanced than just what the title says. Of course.

>>41905270
That's our point but the titles are still clickbait.

I watched the first video and it was saying cut out processed sugars and bread. No fucking shit.

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>>41905138
>>41905168
Its not even law of weightloss, it's law of psychics, If you don't intake enough energy to sustain your existance then your body will have to make use of something to keep living, and the first one to go is fat (it's literally the only point of extra fat tissue).

>>41903459
If you want to accelerate your weight loss, it's easier to start exercising than it is to increase the deficit, not to mention the health and cosmetic benefits of exercise. It also makes it easier psychologically, because you feel like you are actively doing something to achieve your goal, compared to just passively waiting for your body to burn off the fat. It makes cheating harder too, because you don't want to throw all the effort you put into your workout out the window by pigging out.

>>41905299
>Assuming that all excess calories get stored as fat
>Assuming that our body is a simple machine and not super fucking complex
The first law of thermodynamics and the falsity of CICO are not mutually exclusive, you didn't watch the video.

Apple
Imouto
Uh, 153. I have no excuse. I had a bad start to the week and fell out of ketosis. I'm back in now, but I'm up a pound so I lose.

>>41903508
I once ate chicken that was raw in some places, but it didn't even give me the shits, so you'll probably be fine.

>>41903508
>>41905349
Wait, I think it was pork.

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Former anorexic. Current fatty. Always had disordered eating but I've gotten so fat I just want to be anorexic again. I come here every day and want to get fit instead but I just keep eating. I've been so desperate I go on bdsm sites in hopes of finding a paternal role model in my life just because I can't do anything for myself I always crave to serve others. I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm coming undone. I've lost all control. I weigh almost twice as much as I used to I'm 70lbs over my favorite weight and 55 lbs away from still being at a healthy weight but still skinny. I don't know what to do. Sorry for the post please enjoy this image.

To all of you that have lost weight this week, I'm proud of you. We're ALL gonna make it brahs

thinking of doing a 24h fast tomorrow any tips?

>>41905349
ground meat is way worse than a regular chunk of whatever, it's basically bound to be full of bacteria unless it was ground while amazingly fresh

anyway, food poison is a lottery, just cook your fucking meat

>>41905396
>food poison is a lottery, just cook your fucking meat
I've never once had food poisoning,
just don't be an idiot and cook your meat and you'll be fine.

>>41905419
you didn't have it because you aren't an idiot and you cook your meat

that's what I said

Apple
120,4
Just won't fucking go under 120. I think I'll try eating at maint next week.

>>41903549
Mapmyride says I burned 634 calories by doing a 25 km ride with an average speed of 16.7 km/h (I was tired) back when I weighed 84 kilos, so you probably burned ~500 calories. Someone your weight should be able to go faster though, make sure your seat is adjusted correctly. I improved my average speed from 22 to 23 km/h by pulling it up, and it also made cycling a lot comfier.

>>41904296
>running burns like 600 cals per hour
All the only calculators said I burn 800+ calories by doing a 10k in ~50 minutes, that 600 kcal figure seems a bit low.

>>41903339
Ate my chicken steak that I prepped for lunch and am currently shoveling Greek yogurt down my throat.

>>41905396
Yeah I guess I'm lucky it wasn't ground meat.

>>41905384
Drink water and realize that your hunger is simply the result of your trained release of Ghrelin that will subside quickly and that your body doesn't actually require food atm.

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Why is losing weight so easy but lifting so hard guys?

>>41905452
I live in a hilly area, barely get to cycle on hard-surfaced roads and i'm on a very big deficit. Riding up hills fucking kills me and it takes me the whole ride down to recover. When i first started it was barely 14kmph.

>>41904245
That seems reasonable at your weight, although I doubt you could average 14 or even 12 mph at your weight with no previous training.

>>41905381
You have some mental issues you must conquer. Do some light cardio, start small. It's okay to fail sometimes, but you pick yourself up and keep going. I believe in you man, just lower your eating but continue to eat, don't starve yourself.

>>41904379
I have eaten literally nothing but chipotle and pastries for a month and am losing weight. It is merely about calories.

>>41905513
because you personally have developed a habit of dieting but you haven't developed a habit of lifting
same with literally anything in life

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>>41905513
wish I had your problems. Ps reduce the weight

>>41905513
Cause you're a fat sack of shit

>>41904209
>>41904258
It's stubborn fat dumbo

>>41903873
I don't watch youtubers.

>>41905530
you think it is about calories but there are certain hidden variables at work that you aren't aware of apparently

>>41905530
kys

>>41905524
Riding uphill sucks donkey dick, thank god I get to ride on relatively smooth roads with not elevation. On the upside, you probably burn a lot of calories by going uphill, not anywhere near 1000 though.

>been on strict diet 1500 cal max daily
>same shit every day
>lose 4 kilos
>suddenly gain 2 back
>nothing has changed in my diet

what the fuck is going in

How does one fix their posture? I'm down to 177 but my tips stick out like a porn star whenever I stand up straight

Anyone else notice their ball sweat decreasing as they lose weight? Feels good not to have swamp balls all the time.

>>41905556
Right. I forgot that it had to do with my positioning relative to the current planetary graph, and not that my body is making up for an energy deficit from fat reserves.

>>41903900
I don't drink soda, and I never eat chocolate bars or other sugary snacks, but I started drinking tea without sugar about a month ago. It tasted strange at the beginning, but I got used to it, and now it's just as satisfying as it was before. Don't fall for the sweet jew, /fat/.

>>41903900
Sugar is not my problem. Bacon is. I love bacon ribs and eat them every day.

>>41905587
water weight. It happens

Weigh at the SAME time every day. (I do ~ 10 am. After I pooped, before i eat)
Weigh once a week
Avoid excess sodium/carbs
Eat more fiber
Get a tape measure, use it every week or 2 to track progress when water weight is fucking yo scale life.

>>41904027
The sandwich probably contained about as many calories as you've burned running, that's the reason it's retarded to use food as a reward.

>>41905583
You seem to be acquainted with bike riding, anon - sometimes when I ride i feel something like a sudden electric shock in my elbow. Ended up in a ditch recently because of that. Any clue what the fuck it is and how to fix it?

>>41905666
>>Get a tape measure,

Got 1. I never know where to measure.

30lbs down, goal is under 180 (5'11") and then I will assess and decide if I want to cut more or start a lifting/bulk routine

>>41904030
Lose the gut, so lose an additional 10-15 lbs, and start lifting.

>>41905668
Yeah, probably. But I fasted all day before my first meal, and then it was five hours later when I ate again, and am fasting again now.
I'll try not to do that in the future I suppose, but I just figured I wasn't really hurting myself. What really surprised me is how full I was eating what seemed like very little.

>>41905687

The navy BF% calculator explains it pretty well but im feeling nice so ill copy pasta it for you.


>Waist (at narrowest)Your waist measurement at its narrowest point (usually right above the belly button).

>Waist (at navel)Your waist measurement at the navel (or belly button).

>Hip (at widest)Your hip measurement at its widest point.

Neck (at narrowest)Your neck measurement at its narrowest point.

>>41904716
Put your ass out as far as you can and your chest to the front

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>>41905689
Forgot pic

>>41905678
Sounds like it has something to do with nerves. Sometimes my pinky and ring fingers and part of my underarm goes kinda numb from holding the handle, something similar may be happening to you. I guess you could try wearing bike gloves or asking your doc.

>be sick for a week
>constantly puking, food is disgusting
>whatever it was passes
>lost 12 pounds
And food still makes me queasy so I have been able to stay under kcals easily. God might want me to make it guys

>>41905138
I fucking hate this guy

>>41905709
>Your waist measurement at its narrowest point (usually right above the belly button).
Not that anon, but my narrowest point seems to be way higher, where my ribs end. Not sure if I should measure there, or above the belly button anyway?

My skinnfat friend and I have the same waist circumference even though I'm fat as fuck, which makes me think i'm doing it wrong.

>>41904379
>it had brown sugar and *gasp* PORK bacon

>>41905138
tl;dr

>There are discrepancies about cooked v. uncooked for some foods and calorie absorption

>calorie absorption has variance in humans

>calories have variance in food

Still doesn't violate that calories are important, only that measuring them to a T is difficult. Still doesn't violate that on average, counting calories is the method of weight loss that has the most validity.

>>41905831
It had more shit, I just can't recall them fatty.

>>41905747
proud of u anon. getting under 200 is important. ur gonna make it

>>41905869
Yeah ok, it just kinda sounded like you went a bit too far towards the other end of the spectrum there.

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>>41905138
>Calorie counting has a degree of uncertainty
>I will not hedge for uncertainty by rounding up everything I eat
>I will stop counting calories and say that fat loss is just a myth

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>>41904214
>mfw I wake up with stomach pains for an unknown reason
>it's Friday so I won't let that stop me from drinking

Gonna go for my first C25K run tomorrow morning.
Anything I should keep in mind?

>>41905845
Check his channel, he's the ultimate ">tfw to intelligent" with his click baity titles that he contradicts in the next video.
In this video he talks about how it's not just calories in vs calories out but in one of his other videos he mentions a guy who dieted down from being fat to a healthy weight eating nothing but McDonald's with the right calories

@Apple
JDM
239

>>41904966
That sounds reasonable, but it's a bit easier to overeat when you're under the influence of alcohol, so make sure to avoid that. Anyway, the scale will most likely show that you've gained a bit more than you've actually gained in the first few days after you've come back, so don't be frightened by that.

Okay /fat/ bros, i have decided i want to try water fasting, do you guys have any guides on how to do it? How refeeding works afterwards and shit like that?

>>41905939
Yeah im anticipating the scale loading it on but aslong as I count everything and keep around there I can't fuck myself up too badly

my back is still curvey
don't know how to fix it

>>41905941
>Okay /fat/ bros, i have decided i want to try water fasting, do you guys have any guides on how to do it?
Apple Cider Vinegar (with the Mother inside it) is a nice cleanser and it kills appetite. I guess nicotine or caffeine are supposed to help too but those obviously aren't very healthy.

>>41905941
Honestly, I tried a 24h fast and I hated it.
The day itself was okay, but I was so fucking out of energy the next day. Even standing up costed me will power.

>>41905138
At first I thought it was just kinda dumb, but then he went full retard with that battery analogy, by nitpicking about how we can't "burn" calories, by citing some random lifter who claims to eat 1200 kcal a day, by citing a random youtube eater who very obviously vomits out all the shit he eats after making his videos, and by going off the other end and claiming that CICO does not work at all. I mean, he has an actually good point, but claiming CICO is dumb, when in general, it works pretty well if you're intelligent enough to lower your calorie intake even more when you don't seem to lose weight, and when you don't go in a retardedly low deficit like 250 which is pretty much within the margin of error.

How bad would it be to jog around our local lake at 1AM as girl?

>>41905808
Yes you are too fat and that's why that part is you narrowest. Same thing with me. Measure it where the navy says.

If I...a friend of mine has large mantits and they started to hurt after he went for a jog (about 30-45 minutes). Does he seriously have to think about buying a sports bra?

...again, asking for a friend.

>>41906322
I'm so glad I never allowed myself to get this fat.

Thank fucking god my mantits are slowly shrinking the more weight I lose.

>>41905270
The message is good, but it's coated in so much shit that the video ultimately does more harm than good. He compares a fucking battery that stores energy by altering its own chemical structure to the human body, which stores energy by storing fat. It's no fucking surprise that one changes its weight when it's "charged", and the other one does not. And CICO is ultimately a useful heuristic, there is no fucking way you won't lose weight if you start counting calories, and use your fucking brain when you hit a plateau instead of giving up right away.

is there a thread for /skinny/ fags that want to be fit?
underweight for my height here

>>41906233
Pros: Unlikely anyone will be around, cooler air keeps you cool, night running is fun

Cons: Anyone who is around will likely be a rapist

>>41906233
depends, what country?

been running in the forest at 2-3am as a gril and no problems so far

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>>41906402
>been running in the forest at 2-3am as a gril and no problems so far

desu if i was a guy walking around a forest at 3am and saw a girl jogging i would run for my life thinking it's a ghost or some shit

>>41906402
Germany, town near Munich so not that small.
I'm not that worried, but still seems scary.

>>41905201
The first video disproved calories, and the second one used calories to debunk exercise, so I think the verdict on exercise is still out :^)

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>>41903549
Do you want to reconsider your question?

>>41906449
>germany

it's not safe, not anymore. I used to run at 4am in Freiburg around 2014, with all the refugees problems now, there have been lots of cases of woman going missing in the Schwarzwald and found raped and shit

made me really sad desu, the town was beautiful and running during winter at this time was legit amazing

>>41905384
Do a 23h fast every day.

>>41906449
>germany

don't

>>41904868
fishbreh 202

>>41906481
Eh, haven't seen any of them in our town. No space here to bunker them apparently, they're all further out in smaller towns with more space.

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>lift and eat protein, they told me
>girls can't get bulky from lifting, /fit/ said
>walk into work yesterday
>"Hey anon... damn! Have you been hittin the gym? You look... bulky!"
>BULKY
>that fucking feel
So what are my options now? Go full lesbo? I prefer guys but I dunno how they feel about she-hulks.

>>41906233
Well, you could always carry pepper spray with you or something.

>>41905598
>my tips stick out like a porn star
I don't understand what you mean by that, but that's more of a QTDDTOT question than /fat/ question anyway, as it is not weight loss related. You should probably start focusing on standing with a correct posture during the day though, instead of looking for a shortcut like some magic stretches or exercise that will fix it for you. Don't get me wrong, stretching and such is still important and useful, but you most likely won't fix your posture solely through them.

>>41906540
Stop bulking?

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>>41906540
You can be my amazon gf

i-if you want to

>>41905783
You probably haven't lost 12 pounds though, most of that weight loss is due to dehydration from puking.

>>41906540
post pics for evaluation

>>41906449
Kek a friend of mine always jogs in the Schwarzwald and he says all the Arabs and niggers are hanging around there doing shit and harrassing people.

>>41906365
/fit/ is mainly a lifting board, so literally anything but this thread. Read the fucking sticky.

>>41906322
If anyone sees them you might be forced to move to another country.

>>41906630
sticky has been dead for a while now anon

>>41906441
pretty sure i saw somebody running away before

I assumed they were on a jog as well, but that interpretation makes it much better.

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>>41906641
Sorry anon, I forgot that. Here's a cached version of the sticky: https://web.archive.org/web/20170529051727/http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html You can use the wayback machine to view dead links most of the time.

>>41905513
>lifting
>hard
lower the weights you egotistical fatass

>>41906540
Train legs not arms anon, also, send pics lets see how "bulky" you are

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>>41906365
1. Gotta eat big to get big c'mon
2. lift and get proper rest
3. be consistent and don't skip the gym for maximum gains
4. visit QTDDTOT and ask them about routines and such (SS + GOMAD is a meme)

I'm about 285 pounds, should I stop trying to do squats, feel like I'm wearing my knees down and by the time I actually manage to get fit I'd fuck up my knees forever

>>41906831
Are you talking about bodyweight squats, or with a barbell?

>>41906839
just bodyweight, it's already heavy enough I think

>>41906846
No need to go nuts with them. How many do you do? Keep it to something like 3 sets of 8, 2-3 times per week, just to keep some level of conditioning in your legs while you cut.

>>41906868
I'm pretty weak now, I'm only doing 1 set of 10, gradually increasing as I go

>>41906831
While many will disagree I would strongly advise to hold off on your poor joints until you drop a bit more weight. Everyone here is obsessed with aesthetics, but you can very much work on lower body training after your knees dont have to support a small planet. We can build muscle whenever, but when you fuck your knees they are fucked for good.

>>41906885
try 5x5 with a minute between each set, should be plenty enough

>277 this time last year
>189 today

Just stop eating so much, christ
Cut the dairy out
Shrink your portions
It saves so much fucking money and works wonders, it's not that hard just put down the food lmao hahaha

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>>41906674
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fellas i just ate a dark chocolate bar and some beer
now my tummy hurts

>>41906965
>cut the dairy out

cottage cheese is fucking great tho

>Sticky says cutting diet includes 1.5+ grams per lb of body weight

It's easy to keep appropriately deficient calories, but jesus, eating 230+ grams of protein a day sounds daunting.

I guess I need to buckle down.

>>41906978
that's lean body weight. Not total body weight.

Calculate out your bf%.

>>41906978
isn't it 1.5 grams per lb of lean body mass?

>>41906974
it's also very very fatty and has dairy hormones in it that inflate your tits , the latter being especially prevalent in "low fat" cottage cheese

>>41906990
>>41906994
oops, fuck.

>>41906994
still that's too much

What kind of scales do yall use? I have one now digital but it is always off in my house one room I'm heavy and one I'm like 10 pounds light.

>>41907019
The goal is losing weight while maintaining your muscle to the best extent possible which requires protein. It's not "too much". If you don't give a fuck about losing your muscle, you can eat less.

>>41907038
It's too much because my lean body mass is 150 and 1.5 of that is 225, im not gonna spend every single day eating chicken and guzzling protein shakes to get it to that number. I'm already getting it to 150 and that's plenty enough for me

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@Apple

BBC
242.5

Now time to waste all this weeks progress on Pizza and Beer.

>>41907022
I once read a study that said that most electronic scales are pretty accurate when I wanted to see how much a scale can fuck with your weight, so make sure to put your scale on a hard floor, and also get a level and check where it is horizontal. Also mark the spot with duct tape for future measurements.

Alright, update this far for the /fat/ contest. I need weigh-ins from the following people -
Broteinfordays (on notice)
Captain_Hookz
GetSirius (on notice)
Pieman
DropTheBase (on notice)
Kileaf (on notice)
Adam
goingnowhere (on notice)
Spuds
Knight of Manlets
Roflbecca (on notice)
Jormungand
Germanfag
Curiee
ElRabioso
Kokku-Jin (Must weigh-in)
Aphex (Must weigh-in)
Kunf (Must weigh-in)
Brian (Must weigh-in)
Poorfag-kun (Must weigh-in)
touhoufag (Must weigh-in)
Mint Milano (Must weigh-in)
WewLad (Must weigh-in)

Once I have all the people on this list I will implement my goddamned programs, get it to automatically calculate your weekly loss, total loss, remaining pounds and then we'll name winners.

Its very likely I'll drop a blurb Saturday morning with winners for the regular contest and the winner of our first monthly /fat/ tournament. What an honor.

Remember, I need ALL THESE PEOPLE ON THE LIST to weigh in before 11:59 CST tonight or else a lot of you on notice and a lot of you are out of the contest.

Also a quick disclaimer - I am an American. I do not convert kg to lbs. If you are a European, Asian, Australian or someone who does not use the superior Imperial system I don't give a fuuuuck. I will not convert for you as I am not your momma.

As always, happy cutting. See you all closer to midnight.

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>>41903295
>weighed myself today
>254lbs

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>>41907175
>superior Imperial system

Can I ask why everyone on /fat/ seems so paranoid about loose skin?

I mean yeah it will look like shit at first but just get surgery for it

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>>41907175
knight of manlets
189.15
>last time i weighed this much was 3 years ago

>>41907358
>just get surgery
>just
>surgery

>>41903339
pizza

>>41906368
>Cons: Anyone who is around will likely be a rapist
Not so true in this day and age. Good chance if a guy is in the park too that he's an autist too paranoid of getting caught to even think about raping her. She's fat anyways. YUCK.

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>>41906233

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>>41907449
>teach men not to rape

Been counting calories for what must be 3 or 4 months.
At first lost a ton of weight, but after about 10kg started plateauing.
Had to decrease my daily budget by an additional 1000kj to get back to losing weight.
Goddamnit, I never feel satisfied after dinner now.
I always eat dinner, then an hour later make a giant bowl of salad to fill the void.

>>41907372
It's not open heart surgery dumbass

Post-menopausal women get tummy tucks I'm sure a fit guy in his 20s will be able to handle it

>>41906449
>germany
you should be at home by 10 pm max

>>41907474
sure, I'll just drop 15k on it and put myself out of work for a few weeks

Post diets
>Breakfast: 700 - 1300kj, a couple pieces of toast or an air fried chiko roll. Handful of vitamins
>Lunch: 0kj, water and black sugarless coffee
>Dinner: 4000 - 5000kj of whatever you want. Usually 300g roast chicken thigh and 400g roast potatoes. Or maybe a couple kangaroo meat burgers, or kangaroo spaghetti bolognese with zero cal noodles.
>Evening: 4000kj, two bottles of red wine
I call it the starving alcoholic diet

>>41907551
>kj
who even uses that

>>41903339
I'm going to have a slice of BBQ chicken pizza from costco

>>41907551
Today? Well it's friday so...

Breakfast: Carrots
Lunch: cup of fruit blended with water
Dinner: 4 cheeseburgers and a bottle of vodka with Mio waters as a chaser

>>41907558
Me.
The nutritional information on supermarket items is almost always in kj, so it makes things easier

>>41907574
what country?

>>41907583
Australia

>>41907566
>Not gonna make it

>>41904407
i want to fuck that snake

>>41907551
>>41907566
>People actually live like this

>>41907551

>kj
>zero cal noodles

What in the fuc-

>kangaroo burgers

Fuckin aussies.

>>41907594
Nah I eat 1300 calories the rest of the week. If I want I can exercise everyday and make the progress smoother. It's not that hard.

>started to get into a good diet, slow but sure results
>family and friends say its unhealthy and that i should eat more, that i'm losing muscle and shit
>fall out of the diet and climb back up to fat levels
>family and friends joke around with my weight

So strange. I don't think they're coordinating with eachother to fuck up my progress and discourage me, why do people do this?

>>41907619
because they have shit lives so they fuck with you to make their lives seem better, or maybe they're just dicks

>>41907616
>Eats 1300calories and exercises everyday

Definitely not going to make it

>It's not that hard
>Is fat
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>41903361
Not gonna make it.

>>41907640
I've gone from 213 to 199 pounds in a couple months.

>>41907661
Do you know how easy that is to do? Congrats, you went from being a fat bastard to a slightly less fat bastard.

Wait until you reach lower levels of bodyfat; to get lean you'll need to actually stop drinking the liquid jew and have some discipline with your diet.

1300 calories a day while exercising everyday; you truly are a special snowflake with the will power of the Dalai Lama and a body that defies biology.

>>41906540
Tfw no musclefu gf
I've been training 3 years and look bretty good but you gals are so rare

>>41907683
>actually stop drinking the liquid jew
Why does it matter where you get your calories from, provided you're at a deficit?

>>41907733
>Dinner: 4 cheeseburgers and a bottle of vodka with Mio waters as a chaser

Come on Anon you're not that dumb.

>>41907175
Adam
199.2

i just hit 100 days straight using MFP, in that time i went from 250 to 210, i'm real close to having an "overweight" and not an "obese" bmi and you have no idea how fucking hyped i am to be sub-200

we can all make it, /fat/

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>>41903508
>he fell for the rawmeatisbad meme
>he believed the media fear machine about under cooked meat

>>41907975
i dare you to eat some raw ground turkey and report the results

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>>41907469
>teach men to rape

>>41907551
So you ate 2200+ kcal today? Nice "deficit" man.

>>41907640
I do something similar and it just werked™ for the last couple months.

>>41903815
I want butter chicken, do you have a low cal/carb recipe, I could fuck that shit up right now

I'm going to fast for the weekend, break it either Sunday evening or Monday morning. I'm so close to my goal weight but I keep stalling. The hunger I feel sometimes feels overwhelming, I've been stuck at 118 pounds for ages

>>41908482
A man my size can have 2600 kcal a day last time I checked.
And I'm clocking in under budget on my weight loss app.

guys, one of my biceps is like noticeably thicker, larger, more defined than the other.

it;s really fucking bothering me.

should i actually lift more on one arm than the other to compensate? or as I progress into actual non beginner lifts will it even out over time

>>41908697
A deficit of 400 kcals is not really much, especially for someone your size. I guess it's your choice to decide how fast you want to lose it though.

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>>41908462
>teach women to rape back

>>41908703
>more defined
I've always been bothered by my right forearm looking more muscular because it had more vascularity. Now that I have a lower bf%, I realized that it was only due to my right forearm having a big thick vein that my left one simply lacks. I'm not sure if the same thing applies to you, just putting it out there in case it does.

>>41908652
I have cooked this a few times

http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/better-you-butter-chicken/626f0fd9-6f1f-4263-97f3-f222ceca7a32

I substitute greek yoghurt for light coconut milk, gives it a better texture. It's not 100% the same as restaurant butter chicken but scratches the itch

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>>41907175

Apple
Curiee
254.5

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>>41903339

This

>>41908846
nice overcooked lump of shit anon

>>41908755
nah, its literally wider and thicker than the left bicep. the left one is thinner. i'm sure nobody other than me would notice unless I told them , but it bothers me. at least now I have biceps instead of the hambones I used to have...

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>>41908853

Wat, it was a nice delicious medium.

>>41907683
>1300 calories a day while exercising everyday
I'm not exercising every day though. I've only worked out once a week for the past 2 months. There are loads of people who've lost weight while drinking. I'm still eating a more healthful diet than most of you anyhow.

>>41907769
Yes, I eat like that one day a week. That's roughly 3000 calories.

>>41903295
since I don't wanna make a new thread. I have $50 for amazon. I wanna get some weights but I'm not sure what I should get. I already have a barbell with 60lbs and a set of light as fuck dumbbells 10lbs.

NEW THREAD

>>41909128

>>41909128

>>41909128

236 here, had a 5 day water fast which was super motivating but decided to break it because i wanted to start lifting, was this a bad call? should I fast again?

>>41905381
god I want to slide my hand down there. no homo.

>>41907358
I can't speak for anybody else, but I've lost 80lbs so far, am starting to look pretty good but I can tell the loose skin is going to make me look like shit despite my best efforts - yeah, I can learn to deal with it, but it feels like a shit sandwich after a lot of hard work.

On the other hand, I only have myself to blame for getting into such a state in the first place. As for surgery, dunno about elsewhere in the world but it's fucking expensive in the UK sadly.

Either way though, I'm taking the "fuck it, it's my battlescar" approach in the meantime. Yeah, it might be mental gymnastics to make myself feel better, but it works because it's kinda true.

Oh, and these guys helped put it into perspective for me. Pretty damn admirable as well, I think the younger kid lost 170lbs or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ngR8WuY2tc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7oyTazgBmk&t=272s

>>41903295
Bowl of oats for breakfast. A roast chicken between lunch and dinner. ~20 cookies. Some spinach. 1L of Vodka.

>>41911016
shit. meant >>41903339

I get diarrhea from broccoli and other cruiferous vegetables. what the fuck am I supposed to even eat?